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    --- title: September 13 2021 City Council Meeting date: 2021-09-13 source: 2021-09-13_September_13_2021_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:14:26, 0:14:28]: Um good afternoon, everybody. [0:14:29, 0:14:30]: Mr. Aaron? [0:14:30, 0:14:33]: Good afternoon. How are you doing, Councilwoman Barber? [0:14:33, 0:14:35]: I'm doing good. How about you? [0:14:35, 0:14:36]: I'm doing great. [0:14:36, 0:14:40]: Wanted to ask or follow up on that email that I sent. [0:14:41, 0:14:43]: regarding the playgrounds in the parks. [0:14:43, 0:14:44]: Literally. [0:14:45, 0:14:46]: Wait. [0:14:46, 0:14:47]: Can you tell me when? [0:14:48, 0:14:50]: Or if you're gonna be able to [0:14:50, 0:14:54]: Clear the ant mound it mounds and [0:14:54, 0:15:03]: I guess clean the pavilion tables. We'll put some treatment out for the ants. The pavilions are pressure washed weekly. [0:15:04, 0:15:07]: Sometimes twice weekly, depending on the events there. [0:15:08, 0:15:12]: And the playground and schedule quarterly is pressure washed. [0:15:12, 0:15:17]: But if we need to go out and do it, then we'll we'll schedule it. Go ahead and get that scheduled. [0:15:18, 0:15:23]: Can you please um it does not look well at least at Clark Park? [0:15:23, 0:15:25]: where I'm hosting the Zoomba classes. [0:15:26, 0:15:28]: It doesn't look like those tables. [0:15:28, 0:15:30]: are being pressure washed. [0:15:30, 0:15:36]: And I assume most people, if they use the pavilion, it's well for parties. [0:15:36, 0:15:37]: Usually on the weekends. [0:15:38, 0:15:38]: Um [0:15:39, 0:15:47]: And we did see a group of people who came to use the pavilion, I don't know, about two weeks ago. [0:15:47, 0:15:48]: But of course. [0:15:48, 0:15:51]: Um the Zoomba classes start at eight a.m. [0:15:52, 0:15:55]: And they were arriving just as we were finishing. [0:15:55, 0:15:56]: But [0:15:56, 0:15:58]: If you can take a drive over there. [0:15:59, 0:16:02]: if you're able to, when you're able to, just to take a look. [0:16:03, 0:16:05]: I'll go over tomorrow. [0:16:06, 0:16:06]: Thank you, Sarah. [0:16:07, 0:16:11]: 'Cause I know we we normally clean the grills as well, so [0:16:11, 0:16:14]: Okay. I'll follow up with the parts dev tomorrow. [0:16:15, 0:16:16]: Thank you. [0:21:44, 0:21:46]: Hello everyone, testing. [0:21:50, 0:21:51]: Hello. [0:21:52, 0:21:53]: All right, thank you. [0:21:55, 0:21:57]: All right, how you doing today, sir? [0:22:00, 0:22:02]: Mrs. Matthews, how are you? [0:22:06, 0:22:07]: Okay, well. [0:22:07, 0:22:09]: She she's actually not in the room right now. [0:22:11, 0:22:12]: Good afternoon, good evening. [0:22:15, 0:22:17]: Good to see you again, Storm. [0:22:18, 0:22:24]: I meet with you again, sir. Ms. Kurt. Yes, yes, sir. How you doing? Good. [0:22:24, 0:22:25]: Yes. [0:22:38, 0:22:42]: Good evening, Miss Holliday. How are you? How are you? [0:22:44, 0:22:53]: I am well. How are you? How is everyone? Doing great. Doing great. And here hi Mayor and Council. I'm sorry I stepped away. [0:22:53, 0:23:06]: Good evening everybody. Good evening. Greetings, greetings. Absolutely. Okay, what do we have here? All right. Good evening to you, Councilman. Mirapal Tim. Councilman Barber. [0:23:06, 0:23:09]: Hello, Mayor. Alrighty. Alrighty. [0:23:10, 0:23:11]: Okay. [0:23:14, 0:23:18]: And we are live on Facebook, folks, as obviously indicated here and recording. [0:23:22, 0:23:23]: Yeah. [0:23:56, 0:23:57]: Yeah. [0:24:01, 0:24:02]: I got it and thank you. [0:24:08, 0:24:14]: Okay, Councilwoman Gantt is coming in. Mr. Knighton's coming in. Here an attorney is coming in. Okay. [0:24:19, 0:24:20]: So [0:24:25, 0:24:29]: Okay, I have uh about uh almost six here. [0:24:30, 0:24:31]: And Ms. Washington, how you doing, sir? [0:24:33, 0:24:34]: Doing well, how are you doing? [0:24:34, 0:24:37]: All right, good deal. Thank you very much. Mr. Peterson's coming okay. [0:24:40, 0:24:43]: Mayor, does anyone know a Michelle Battle needs to be promoted to a panelist? [0:24:46, 0:24:57]: Uh I don't know. She she's with the county, I'm assuming. No, she is she is a developer on one of the items uh that will be heard by community development. So I would say yes, and uh yes. [0:24:58, 0:24:59]: Okay, thank you. Mm-hmm. [0:25:03, 0:25:10]: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six o'clock and we do have a quorum and uh on that note. [0:25:10, 0:25:14]: Madam uh clerk, could you please uh do a roll call? [0:25:17, 0:25:18]: Mayor Ford. [0:25:19, 0:25:19]: Present. [0:25:20, 0:25:21]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:25:22, 0:25:24]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. [0:25:24, 0:25:25]: That's it. [0:25:25, 0:25:26]: Councilman Blount. [0:25:29, 0:25:32]: Let the record reflect Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:25:33, 0:25:34]: Present. [0:25:34, 0:25:36]: Councilman Thomas. [0:25:36, 0:25:37]: Present. [0:25:37, 0:25:38]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:25:38, 0:25:42]: And councilman. I do see Councilman Blount. Mr. Blount, you're muted. [0:25:45, 0:25:53]: This okay, he's in knowledge, he's here. I forgot to mention this is our council meeting for September 13th as well, 2021. Okay. [0:25:54, 0:25:57]: On that note, uh Mayor Pro Tem, I was invocation, please here. [0:25:58, 0:26:00]: If everyone would bow their heads. [0:26:01, 0:26:07]: I want to first start by thanking God for all the blessings he has bestowed upon. [0:26:07, 0:26:09]: The city of Stockbridge. [0:26:09, 0:26:11]: It is a great time to be a citizen. [0:26:12, 0:26:15]: of the city of Stamp Reese because of so many blessings. [0:26:15, 0:26:18]: The first blessing he bestowed upon every citizen was [0:26:18, 0:26:20]: That opened their eyes. [0:26:20, 0:26:22]: This morning, whether he woke us. [0:26:22, 0:26:24]: And it gave us breath and life. [0:26:25, 0:26:25]: Thank you, Lord. [0:26:26, 0:26:27]: For breath and life. [0:26:27, 0:26:31]: Thank you so much for everything that you've done to see the city. [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: through this pandemic. [0:26:32, 0:26:34]: And with your watchful hand. [0:26:34, 0:26:38]: And guide and watch watchful line, guiding hand. Please guide us through. [0:26:39, 0:26:40]: These turbulent times. [0:26:41, 0:26:42]: And some say a special prayer. [0:26:43, 0:26:44]: For all of our first responders. [0:26:45, 0:26:47]: And our Pete My Henry Hospital heroes. [0:26:47, 0:26:49]: who are out there giving it their all. [0:26:50, 0:26:52]: Let us all understand. [0:26:52, 0:26:54]: Without them there would [0:26:54, 0:26:55]: It would be so much more. [0:26:55, 0:26:58]: In our community, and their struggle and their strife. [0:26:58, 0:26:59]: We are one. [0:27:00, 0:27:04]: Our God will guide us, He will lead us, and He will shelter us through. [0:27:04, 0:27:05]: Because this too. [0:27:06, 0:27:07]: Shall pass. [0:27:07, 0:27:11]: Thank you, Lord, and guide each decision that we make tonight. [0:27:11, 0:27:25]: Remove personal feeling, personal enemies, and let it be in the best interest of the citizens for each decision that we make tonight. Because we know that that's what you would have us do. Seek light even in the darkness. Amen. [0:27:25, 0:27:26]: Amen. [0:27:26, 0:27:29]: Okay, folks, if you don't mind a stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. [0:27:32, 0:27:45]: Pledge allegiance to the flag. America. We can stand one nation. Under God. Indivisible. The liberty and justice. Justice for all cause. [0:27:49, 0:27:52]: Council, I need a adoption to uh for the agenda. [0:27:53, 0:28:13]: Adoption motion to opt the agenda, but on that note, I want to mention this to you. I'd like to uh read something here in reference to the amendment of the agenda, which would be old business, council consideration to approve the Stockbridge City Municipal Map for the November 2nd, 2021 election, precinct number one, the Merrill Manner's Conference Center, precinct number [0:28:13, 0:28:23]: Number two, Stockbridge First United Methodist Church, precinct number three, Red Oak United Methodist Church, presented by Ms. Johnson, which is our community development director. Uh Anita Solmu, please. [0:28:26, 0:28:32]: So yeah, so uh one second please. Uh so move for Mr. Alexander. Is there a second? [0:28:35, 0:28:35]: Is there a second? [0:28:36, 0:28:37]: A second. [0:28:37, 0:28:39]: Okay, Mr. Thomas seconds that all in favor, please. [0:28:40, 0:28:40]: Indicate. [0:28:43, 0:28:45]: Okay. I have four. Any any opposed? [0:28:46, 0:28:47]: Abstain. [0:28:48, 0:28:56]: Air Ford. Stand by please. I'm trying to make sure I got an accurate count. So I've got four people for and zero abstain and zero. [0:28:57, 0:29:03]: I guess in a sense, uh object. Uh councilman barber, do you have you have a uh vote one way or the other on this motion? [0:29:05, 0:29:14]: So I spoke with you before the meeting. Answer the question, please, right now. We'll get to that point. Okay. Okay. Are you for or against? [0:29:14, 0:29:15]: Excuse me? [0:29:15, 0:29:16]: I'll approve. [0:29:16, 0:29:19]: Okay, good. So five oh, appreciate that. Now. [0:29:19, 0:29:20]: Miss Barber, what is on your mind, ma'am? [0:29:21, 0:29:28]: I wanted to amend the agenda to add a discussion regarding the contract to manage the amphitheater. [0:29:28, 0:29:29]: Okay, is there a second motion? [0:29:32, 0:29:33]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:29:35, 0:29:46]: No second seconds that I motion, Ms. Barber. I need a motion to uh to a day uh to actually approve the agenda with the additional added uh comment in reference to the for the municipal city municipal map. [0:29:46, 0:29:50]: Is there a move? So move. Thank you. Is there a second? [0:29:52, 0:29:53]: Is there a second? [0:29:55, 0:30:05]: I second. Okay, Mr. Thomas. What's this action, Mayor? Well, what about it on it? Well, what we've I made a well, I'm sorry, excuse me. I I made a red. [0:30:05, 0:30:14]: An actual amendment to the the motion in reference to city uh municipal maps, right? Right to add that onto the agenda. [0:30:14, 0:30:20]: Now I thought we had to go back and and amend, I'm excuse me, and vote on the entire agenda. [0:30:21, 0:30:22]: With this ad, is that correct or not? [0:30:25, 0:30:26]: Okay, attorneys. [0:30:28, 0:30:29]: What? [0:30:30, 0:30:32]: That's quite you you have to approve the meeting agenda. [0:30:33, 0:30:35]: Correct. You're approving it with the amendment on. [0:30:36, 0:30:36]: Right, correct. [0:30:37, 0:30:56]: Okay, go ahead, please. Yep, that's so so that's what we just added, we added, we approved the add the the item. Now we gotta go back and prove the entire uh uh entire agenda is what I thought we had to do. So on that note, okay. On that note, I need a motion for the entire agenda with the amendment that we made. Is there so moved on that? So moved. Thank you, Mr. Alexander. Is there a second? [0:30:58, 0:31:01]: Uh Mr. Blount now holds up his hand says second to that. Okay, all in fair, please indicate. [0:31:04, 0:31:07]: Thank you. Okay, thank you. Just okay as a fruit. [0:31:09, 0:31:29]: Council, before you you have the minutes for the July 6th special call meeting, which dealt with the reviewing the T spots list. You also have before you the council meeting minutes from July 12th and also the council work session minutes from July 21st. [0:31:28, 0:31:34]: I if there are no changes, I need a motion to adopt those minutes for those meetings, please. [0:31:37, 0:31:40]: Zero. Thank you very much. Pro tem zero second. [0:31:42, 0:31:43]: Is there a second? [0:31:46, 0:31:47]: I said. [0:31:47, 0:31:49]: Thank you, Mr. Thomas. Appreciate that. [0:31:49, 0:31:51]: All right, all in favor, please indicate. [0:31:54, 0:32:14]: Okay, it seems like unanimous. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. On ceremonial piece here, uh let me do this. Uh what it is, ladies and gentlemen, um just the other day, matter of fact, on Saturday, a Red Oak uh church, uh United Methodist Church in our community obviously, uh did a pastor's appreciation day. [0:32:14, 0:32:23]: for their pastor, Belinda McCaskill. So let me read this particular appreciation to Pastor McCaskill here. [0:32:23, 0:32:43]: As elected officials of the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia, is both our pleasure and duty to recognize individuals who are doing great things in the community. We appreciate you, Pastor Belinda McCaskill, and rejoice in your three-year pastoral celebration here at Red Oak United Methodist Church. God has sent you to do this place and to lend [0:32:43, 0:32:59]: out and teach uh from his word. We pray to our father to keep filling you with wisdom, revelation, and knowledge that comes with from him. Pastor McCaskill, you have a profound compassion for the sick, the shut-in, the less fortunate. [0:32:59, 0:33:19]: Uh you have activity you have actively participated and partnered with local and national organizations to alleviate homelessness and to provide community health and wellness resources to offer hot holistic support to those in need. Without question, your leadership qualities are exemplified throughout your day-to-day. [0:33:19, 0:33:39]: Interaction with the humanity as you are known to meet uh as you meet a stranger as well. The phenomenal leader who serves out of the box and has learned to live and lead outside of your comfort zone as you walk by faith and not by sight. We celebrate you, Pastor McCasco and your family. [0:33:39, 0:33:49]: for the many countless hours and sacrifices made. May God bless you for the work that you are doing here at Red Oak United Methodist Church in Stockbridge Community. [0:33:50, 0:34:05]: continued blessings on behalf of the city stock city stop race council uh mayor anthonas ford mayor pro tempton alexander councilwoman yolanda barber councilman jount uh councilwoman lakees again and councilwoman phon thomas and uh document is signed [0:34:05, 0:34:06]: Okay. [0:34:07, 0:34:09]: Madam Clerk, uh any public comments at all, please. [0:34:11, 0:34:13]: Therefore, we do have public comments this evening. [0:34:13, 0:34:14]: Okay, go right here, please. [0:34:17, 0:34:20]: First comment is from Miss Bernice Peters. [0:34:21, 0:34:21]: Okay. [0:34:22, 0:34:23]: Fifteen twelve Woodbury Port. [0:34:25, 0:34:31]: I am a Stockbridge resident and submitting this comment as a request for our own Stockbridge Police Department. [0:34:31, 0:34:33]: Crime is escalating. [0:34:34, 0:34:41]: Vehicle break-ins, murders, robberies, et cetera. And we shouldn't have to wait for Henry County police to arrive. [0:34:41, 0:34:50]: When they can accommodate our needs. We need a police department that will be easily accessible and to the needs at all times. [0:34:52, 0:34:54]: The next comment is from [0:34:55, 0:34:56]: Corrin Randezzo. [0:34:58, 0:35:04]: I I Corin Rendanzo personally support the inception of a Stockbridge police department. [0:35:04, 0:35:10]: because as soon as they look at me funny, I'm going to sue them for a quarter million dollars. [0:35:11, 0:35:14]: Just as I'm doing Henry County Police Department right now. [0:35:18, 0:35:22]: The next comment is from Honorable Neat Robinson, Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:35:26, 0:35:27]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:35:28, 0:35:33]: I'm contacting each of you because I have I have a very disappointing concern. [0:35:33, 0:35:37]: Regarding the printing of the development plaque for the amphitheater. [0:35:37, 0:35:41]: It's very unfortunate that I'm having to address this matter. [0:35:41, 0:35:44]: I'm aware that my name was excluded. [0:35:44, 0:35:51]: From the plaque. And it's extremely hurtful to know that my former colleagues feel that it's necessary to disregard. [0:35:51, 0:35:57]: and overlook the hard work and sacrifices that I rendered during the process for this major development. [0:35:58, 0:35:59]: Just like each of you. [0:35:59, 0:36:04]: I spent a lot of time away from my family during those two and a half years. [0:36:04, 0:36:07]: working through a capital project. [0:36:07, 0:36:12]: This is a historical moment that leaves a legacy for all of our children and grandchildren. [0:36:12, 0:36:13]: Tomorrow over. [0:36:13, 0:36:16]: Each of our accomplishments for our great city. [0:36:16, 0:36:18]: Finally, together we all [0:36:19, 0:36:21]: celebrated as mayor and council when we broke ground. [0:36:22, 0:36:26]: In twenty eighteen, but I want to correct that to twenty nineteen. [0:36:27, 0:36:29]: To bring the best in class in our region. [0:36:30, 0:36:33]: All of which are documented in the city's public record. [0:36:34, 0:36:40]: As elected officials, you set the policies and procedures that are effective and clear. [0:36:40, 0:36:41]: As you know. [0:36:41, 0:36:44]: What is known to be practical practices are not. [0:36:45, 0:36:51]: always best practices off of the matter or matters that represent the current present agenda. [0:36:51, 0:36:52]: Therefore [0:36:52, 0:36:56]: Given each of you the liberty to make changes. [0:36:56, 0:37:01]: I'm here today because I have had in-depth conversations with each of you on this matter. [0:37:01, 0:37:05]: Some of you, we had this conversation in 2019 and 2020. [0:37:06, 0:37:07]: And others more recent. [0:37:07, 0:37:13]: The fact of the matter is, with each conversation that I have had with the council members for the city of Stockbridge, [0:37:13, 0:37:15]: You have either stated yes, I agree. [0:37:15, 0:37:17]: Or it was never brought to your attention to vote. [0:37:18, 0:37:21]: Or the mayor or Mr. Knighton mentioned the standard practices. [0:37:21, 0:37:22]: Which I have mentioned above. [0:37:22, 0:37:25]: That are not always the best practices and [0:37:25, 0:37:26]: Every situation. [0:37:26, 0:37:28]: At this point I am really confused. [0:37:29, 0:37:38]: As it was brought to my attention that this matter was polled to each and every council member by Mr. Knighton for consensus, but he did not receive a majority vote. [0:37:38, 0:37:44]: So I am requesting that you all vote tonight and express your thoughts publicly so that I and the citizens. [0:37:44, 0:37:47]: are very clear on each of your responses. [0:37:47, 0:37:51]: In closing, I am very much aware the plaque has been completed. [0:37:51, 0:37:52]: However [0:37:52, 0:37:55]: Please note that a name can be added at any time. [0:37:56, 0:37:57]: By way of a change order. [0:37:58, 0:38:00]: It is my prayer that as my colleagues [0:38:00, 0:38:02]: And council members. [0:38:02, 0:38:04]: А the city of Starkwich, Georgia. [0:38:04, 0:38:08]: That you all vote in favor of the change and do what is honorable. [0:38:08, 0:38:12]: Thank you for taking the time to hear my request and I look forward to us continuing. [0:38:12, 0:38:14]: to grow together in the new future. [0:38:15, 0:38:19]: Honorable Neat Robinson, former council member two thousand sixteen-two thousand nineteen. [0:38:20, 0:38:21]: For two thousand. [0:38:22, 0:38:23]: Oh, thank you for that. [0:38:23, 0:38:27]: Um all right. And the last comment is from Ms. [0:38:27, 0:38:29]: From Sunny Rendetto. [0:38:30, 0:38:33]: Stackwish George. Bryant Street Stackwish George. [0:38:35, 0:38:43]: I and other concerned citizens would like to know if Mr. Knighton or staff has addressed the noise mitigation issue yet. [0:38:43, 0:38:46]: A wall will only make it worse, in my opinion. [0:38:47, 0:38:48]: We need a sound. [0:38:49, 0:38:51]: Experts for audio mitigation. [0:38:52, 0:38:56]: Please research hertz level, not just decibels. [0:38:56, 0:38:59]: And nowhere as expensive as a wall. [0:39:00, 0:39:02]: Why was this not in the design? [0:39:02, 0:39:06]: Our neighborhood has endured two years of food truck Tuesdays. [0:39:07, 0:39:08]: Also the test concert. [0:39:09, 0:39:10]: Hurt a flippin' robe. [0:39:10, 0:39:12]: And way down Old Conyers Road. [0:39:13, 0:39:16]: I personally have been asking for this mitigation. [0:39:16, 0:39:18]: since march twenty nineteen. [0:39:19, 0:39:21]: When our concerts got basically blown off. [0:39:23, 0:39:29]: Time and time, I'm sorry, when our concerts apologize, when our con concerns got basically bone blown off. [0:39:30, 0:39:32]: Time and time again. [0:39:32, 0:39:36]: For two and a half years, I have asked you to address this situation. [0:39:36, 0:39:40]: I am offended that anyone would install wrought iron [0:39:41, 0:39:45]: And small bushes as a solution and to put the funding [0:39:45, 0:39:46]: For it. [0:39:46, 0:39:49]: On a fantasy T Splash. [0:39:49, 0:39:51]: that hasn't even been voted on yet. [0:39:52, 0:39:53]: It's just mind blowing. [0:39:54, 0:39:56]: This is a problem city council. [0:39:57, 0:40:00]: We have already endured almost two years of [0:40:00, 0:40:01]: Earth shaking. [0:40:01, 0:40:03]: Constant beeping. [0:40:03, 0:40:04]: BMA. [0:40:05, 0:40:06]: And the cops called on us. [0:40:07, 0:40:09]: by the construction workers the city hired. [0:40:10, 0:40:13]: Now we expected to pay a brand new city tax to pay for it. [0:40:14, 0:40:15]: No way is the new city tax. [0:40:17, 0:40:20]: No way is the new city tax for the new PD. [0:40:21, 0:40:23]: How is that possible? [0:40:23, 0:40:26]: When we just blew twenty three million dollars. [0:40:26, 0:40:28]: On an amphitheater. [0:40:28, 0:40:29]: Eight million dollars. [0:40:30, 0:40:30]: Over budget. [0:40:31, 0:40:32]: Something is not right here. [0:40:33, 0:40:34]: We all know it. [0:40:35, 0:40:37]: Don't put us off anymore. [0:40:37, 0:40:38]: Mr. Mayor. [0:40:39, 0:40:40]: We need answers now. [0:40:41, 0:40:42]: And in my opinion. [0:40:42, 0:40:45]: We are not ready to open that place. [0:40:45, 0:40:48]: Mr. Alexander posted on BWC. [0:40:49, 0:40:53]: That people could park at Moy's Food Depot, Stockbridge Baptist Church. [0:40:54, 0:40:58]: Sadie Hawkins School, Subway, etcetera. [0:40:58, 0:41:01]: Did he ask their permission to post this? [0:41:01, 0:41:06]: Because the church has gated their parking lot now for the first time in fifty years. [0:41:07, 0:41:09]: The residents can't even cut through. [0:41:11, 0:41:12]: To the subway now. [0:41:13, 0:41:15]: Half of my family learned [0:41:15, 0:41:18]: to drive in that parking lot. Now it's sad. [0:41:19, 0:41:21]: Anyway, I predict the parking [0:41:21, 0:41:24]: thing and the traffic will be a disaster on the twenty fifth. [0:41:24, 0:41:27]: And the amphitheatre is not even on the agenda. [0:41:27, 0:41:31]: Even though we will soon be swarming with people all over town. [0:41:32, 0:41:35]: How long should we quarantine after the concert? [0:41:35, 0:41:39]: What if one of those forty two hundred gets sick or injured? [0:41:40, 0:41:41]: Or have an altercation. [0:41:41, 0:41:43]: The hospital is diverted. [0:41:43, 0:41:45]: They have closed most schools, like [0:41:46, 0:41:49]: Mr. Blount and Miss Gantt said we jumped the gun. [0:41:49, 0:41:50]: We are not ready. [0:41:50, 0:41:51]: But now that's [0:41:51, 0:41:53]: It sold out. [0:41:53, 0:41:56]: Shouldn't y'all be discussing how to handle the crowd? [0:41:56, 0:41:58]: Our quarantine, I don't care. [0:41:58, 0:42:01]: Just please give us noise mitigation. [0:42:01, 0:42:04]: We want to stop the suffering. Thank you. [0:42:05, 0:42:07]: Mayor, there are no further comments. [0:42:07, 0:42:27]: All right. Well there's obviously several different things that uh comments there that uh need to be answered in in this aspect. And some things uh that were mentioned uh were not really uh really not uh accurate, I would say, in this aspect. So we gotta look at a way to uh get back to those individuals and to answer those particular questions in this aspect. So [0:42:27, 0:42:47]: um on that note. I know that we've it's recording and we have uh documentation of this and we'll have to make some concerted effort to to respond to those things uh appropriately in this time. Uh on that note, unless there's any other uh discussion on this any of these issues, I'd like to move on to old business. [0:42:47, 0:42:55]: No, that we added the old business in reference to the municipal precincts uh to the um uh to the agenda. Ms. Johnson, please. [0:43:05, 0:43:08]: Good evening, Mayor, Council members and residents. [0:43:08, 0:43:11]: So yes, um we have a [0:43:11, 0:43:13]: Um a precinct map. [0:43:13, 0:43:32]: uh which has been um revised based on the 2020 census numbers for our population in an effort to balance out and get an average of residents that will be within each precinct uh we've created the um the map I'm gonna show you on my screen. [0:43:33, 0:43:34]: A moment. [0:43:36, 0:43:39]: Okay, can you all see this? Let me make it a little larger. [0:43:40, 0:43:41]: Yeah, we can see it now. [0:43:43, 0:43:46]: Uh I can make it a little bit larger so you can kind of see what's going on. [0:43:47, 0:44:02]: So if you will know there are three different colors on the map, each of which um denotes a different precinct. We have three precincts within the city. Umriginally the populations were, you know, we had 15,000 on the first one. [0:44:02, 0:44:12]: 7,000 on the next one and 9,000 on the last one. So in an effort to kind of balance out our um averages based on the current census. [0:44:12, 0:44:17]: We have redrawn some of the lines. So the city's been working with the um [0:44:18, 0:44:21]: With the board of um elections. [0:44:21, 0:44:25]: to um come up with this map and um [0:44:25, 0:44:29]: And the GIS folks at Henry County um help us. [0:44:29, 0:44:32]: Pull this map together based on the council's wishes. [0:44:32, 0:44:35]: So what we have here are [0:44:35, 0:44:38]: Um there was originally only one. [0:44:38, 0:44:40]: Location to vote. [0:44:41, 0:44:43]: On the day to vote. [0:44:43, 0:44:45]: Um on voting day. [0:44:45, 0:44:47]: And that was Merrill Manders. [0:44:47, 0:45:07]: Uh what has happened is we've added two more locations, um, Red Oak United Methodist Church and Stockbridge First United Methodist Church, which all will be available on voting day. Now, of course, during early voting, all the other um voting locations throughout the county will be available. [0:45:07, 0:45:12]: For residents. So we have just made some adjustments to the map in this regard. [0:45:13, 0:45:17]: Um I uh according to what I understand from um [0:45:18, 0:45:20]: from s staff is that [0:45:21, 0:45:25]: Uh we increased the number because we were having kind of low voter turnout. [0:45:25, 0:45:33]: on the day of people from way up in McDonough were having to come all the way down to Stockbridge and it was causing some issues there. So [0:45:34, 0:45:37]: These other two precincts will kind of help in aiding. [0:45:37, 0:45:40]: Um having an addition additional locations for [0:45:41, 0:45:45]: Um for voting on the day to vote, the Tuesday. [0:45:46, 0:45:51]: Um, that's kind of all of it I have to kind of go over. So if you have any questions, uh please let me know. [0:45:53, 0:45:55]: Uh Mayor. Yeah, go right ahead, please, Mayor Portan. [0:45:56, 0:46:05]: Yeah, I just want every citizen watching to understand that voting is important in the city and to understand we have been working diligently. [0:46:05, 0:46:07]: Because I remember [0:46:07, 0:46:09]: In the last election cycle. [0:46:09, 0:46:12]: Where we had hundreds of voters. [0:46:12, 0:46:13]: In line. [0:46:14, 0:46:15]: The municipal cor. [0:46:16, 0:46:19]: At seven o'clock with only one voting location. [0:46:20, 0:46:23]: This is significant history for the city of Stockbridge. [0:46:24, 0:46:27]: In that we will have multiple polling locations. [0:46:27, 0:46:34]: Because in in itself, waiting in line an extended amount of time is voter suppression. [0:46:35, 0:46:43]: When you're in power and you have something that you have uh the power to do something about voter suppression and discouraging people from voting. [0:46:43, 0:46:52]: You do that. Now that we have three separate voting precincts, folks won't have to wait in line uh on election day like they did. [0:46:53, 0:47:03]: Still, it is better to vote on early voting where you don't have to wait in line at all. And most times you can walk into the location at the early voting location. [0:47:03, 0:47:04]: And be able to vote. [0:47:05, 0:47:05]: Early. [0:47:06, 0:47:08]: And then not have to wait in line on election day. [0:47:09, 0:47:12]: It's extremely important this year because if you vote [0:47:12, 0:47:18]: uh early during early voting, you can vote for T Splos and you can also vote at the same location. [0:47:18, 0:47:31]: And then uh on this map, like at this location where Red Oak is, uh it's a county polling place there at Red Oak. So at that location, you can you will be able to vote. [0:47:31, 0:47:33]: Uh on election day you'll be able to vote. [0:47:34, 0:47:47]: for uh the may the uh city council and mayoral election and the T Splash at one location. I think the desire for us all is to, as uh the 2020 census is done. [0:47:47, 0:47:53]: And we uh have uh more understanding of the population spread. [0:47:53, 0:48:01]: That we will have more voting precincts in the south side of Stock Bridge as well. The only reason that we did not have. [0:48:02, 0:48:05]: Uh any locations in the south part of Stockbridge. [0:48:06, 0:48:08]: Uh in the Eagles Landing area. [0:48:08, 0:48:21]: uh at uh a part of stock bridge and i and i want to let me say this when i say eagles landing i'm talking about stock bridge so let's stop that right now let's say that part of the city there were no polling places [0:48:21, 0:48:32]: that were inside the city limits in that area. So we could not add any polling places in there. But going forward, we will work with the county. [0:48:32, 0:48:34]: Uh to be able to have [0:48:34, 0:48:52]: uh a polling location in that area inside the city limits. The law requires that we have uh that the all city elections are located inside the city limits. The tabernacle of praise, that's not in the city limits. [0:48:52, 0:49:12]: That wasn't what we looked at. The Flippin Elementary School location that I that was moved uh I think to Jodico First Baptist. That location was not in the city limits. Pate's Creek is not in the city limits. So all of the polling locations on the south side of the city, none of those locations were in the city limits. [0:49:12, 0:49:21]: City limits. So we were not able to add a precinct down there. That's something that we're going to uh work on in the future to make sure that we get that done. [0:49:21, 0:49:32]: But please understand the effort is ongoing and that this is significant. That is the first time in the history of the city of Stockbridge that you'll have multiple places to vote. [0:49:32, 0:49:41]: Uh, on election day. And I thank the mayor, the council. And I specifically want to thank Miss Vanessa Holliday. She is brilliant, y'all. [0:49:41, 0:49:42]: Okay. [0:49:42, 0:49:44]: And uh Mr. Kirk. [0:49:44, 0:49:47]: Who and Miss uh Johnson who who worked uh [0:49:47, 0:49:53]: tireless hours to be able to break this down to make sure that each polling plug place was um [0:49:54, 0:50:02]: balanced as possible as much as they possibly could. So thank you and kudos to you for uh making it easier for folks to vote in Stockbridge. [0:50:04, 0:50:06]: Council, any further comments at all? [0:50:06, 0:50:07]: Um [0:50:07, 0:50:15]: I do realize that we do have members of the Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Go right ahead, please. I I'm sorry, I raised my hand. Um go right ahead, please. [0:50:16, 0:50:18]: Um, thank you. I just wanted to make sure [0:50:19, 0:50:22]: Ken the last time we voted on this, it was only [0:50:23, 0:50:24]: I think we all agreed. [0:50:25, 0:50:30]: two precincts so long as it was within budget. Do we know the budget at this point? [0:50:31, 0:50:51]: Mayor. Yeah, go right here. Stand by, please. Um, Miss Holiday, uh have we got confirmation of that? And I know we have members of the uh Henry County Board of Elections online as well that can potentially uh assist us with this uh particular question. That's this concern. Is Amika able to join? She was having She's online. She's here. Okay, good. Yes. [0:50:51, 0:50:54]: Yes, we um they did come in under budget. [0:50:55, 0:50:57]: Um, but if she wants to speak to that. [0:50:58, 0:51:01]: Ms. Pitts, go right in the page. Yeah, Miss Pitts, go right in, please. [0:51:01, 0:51:02]: Yes, good evening. [0:51:03, 0:51:04]: Um [0:51:04, 0:51:09]: First of all, I just want to apologize about the last meeting, and I'm glad to be able to be here tonight. [0:51:09, 0:51:19]: Um I did some calculations and also me and my team we did some assessment and we were able to be able to accommodate this request without getting new machines. [0:51:19, 0:51:30]: And so I went back and revised the invoice and it is just a projection we were able to possibly pull off the election for$21,993. [0:51:31, 0:51:32]: Could you repeat that cost again, please, man? [0:51:33, 0:51:37]: Yes, sir, twenty-one thousand nine hundred and ninety-three dollars. [0:51:38, 0:51:38]: Okay. [0:51:40, 0:51:44]: And that it obviously was in our parti Miss Holiday spent our our projected budget. Is that correct? [0:51:45, 0:51:46]: Yeah, that's correct. [0:51:46, 0:52:05]: Okay, thank you. So so thank you for that. Um actually that's excellent. If that is the case, if we can get it under the twenty-five thousand dollar budget and have more precincts, I hope that we can mo I hope that other cities and other municipalities and as well as our county will be able to mimic. [0:52:05, 0:52:20]: that at some point. Um, I think that's important. So that's excellent. So long as we're in budget, I'm for it. I wasn't for it until I knew the budget and that we were under that we were, you know, weren't spending extra money, but I'm I'm all for it. So thank you. [0:52:21, 0:52:24]: Ms. Ms. Pitts, do you have anything else you'd like to add at this time? [0:52:24, 0:52:39]: Yes, I did want to add again that this is a projection. Um sometimes we have to have additional poll workers or additional riders, um, but from what you're saying, I can't see it going too far past 25 if it does um increase. [0:52:41, 0:52:42]: That's all I have to say. Thank you. [0:52:42, 0:52:49]: Thank you, ma'am. Um council, any other council thank you, ma'am. Um any other council members, any comments at all? [0:52:51, 0:52:54]: Um I have the county com uh [0:52:55, 0:52:58]: Manager online, Miss Matthews, anything you need to add at all, ma'am? [0:52:59, 0:53:01]: No, sir, Mayor Um Ford. Thank you. [0:53:01, 0:53:10]: Okay. Yes sir. Go right ahead, please. If we could and I know this is a lot, but Miss Holliday, you you're just so brilliant. I know you can do it. I bet. [0:53:11, 0:53:23]: In different parts of the city and like area one, two, three, uh two and three, give the voters an example of where they would be voting at for for like in the two in the in the areas. [0:53:24, 0:53:30]: Okay, if you are if you see the peach area, which is precinct one. [0:53:30, 0:53:32]: That's the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [0:53:33, 0:53:34]: The pink [0:53:34, 0:53:35]: Area. [0:53:36, 0:53:37]: Which is precinct. [0:53:37, 0:53:38]: Two [0:53:38, 0:53:41]: That's the Stockbridge First United Methodist Church. [0:53:42, 0:53:45]: And the blue area, which is precinct three. [0:53:45, 0:53:48]: It's Red Oak United Methodist Church. [0:53:49, 0:53:52]: This is an election day map. [0:53:55, 0:54:00]: Which is the thing that's just a good clear. Which means if you were to go to any one of those precincts. [0:54:00, 0:54:02]: Uh and vote on election day. [0:54:03, 0:54:07]: Uh, you will be voting at one of these three for city elections. [0:54:08, 0:54:09]: If, however [0:54:11, 0:54:12]: Precinct one. [0:54:12, 0:54:16]: which is the Merrmanis Conference Center, is your normal [0:54:17, 0:54:21]: County polling location, you would also be able to vote for SPLOS. [0:54:21, 0:54:25]: Likewise for Stockbridge First United Methodist Church. [0:54:25, 0:54:26]: If that is your normal [0:54:26, 0:54:28]: County Poland Location. [0:54:28, 0:54:32]: And you vote on your city election on election day, you will also be able to vote. [0:54:33, 0:54:35]: Courseplas, likewise with red oak. [0:54:36, 0:54:38]: If that is your normal polling location. [0:54:39, 0:54:42]: On election day, you will be able to vote for your mayor and council. [0:54:42, 0:54:42]: And [0:54:43, 0:54:43]: A T splas. [0:54:44, 0:54:44]: County. [0:54:45, 0:54:45]: Ballot item. [0:54:48, 0:54:50]: Thank you. So your question being pro camp. [0:54:51, 0:54:53]: Yes, thank you. Great explanation. [0:54:55, 0:54:55]: Yeah. [0:54:57, 0:55:01]: All right, council, any other questions or concerns before we move on to the next subject? Anybody else? [0:55:03, 0:55:05]: And I do not see any others. [0:55:06, 0:55:14]: Okay. On that note, appreciate it. Thank you, uh Miss Johnson. Um you can appreciate it. [0:55:15, 0:55:18]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. The map will require a vote. [0:55:20, 0:55:21]: Thank you very much. [0:55:21, 0:55:22]: Thank you. [0:55:22, 0:55:26]: So moved, I approved the map. I would like to make a motion. [0:55:26, 0:55:29]: To approve the map as presented by [0:55:29, 0:55:42]: um staff with the three voting precincts for the city of Stockbridge. So Miss Barber was first on that. Second, any further discussion? If not, uh everybody please indicate. [0:55:43, 0:55:50]: Is that uh I would imagine that's a unanimous decision. I can't see everybody right now, but it looks like it'd be a unanimous decision on that. [0:55:50, 0:55:51]: Okay. [0:55:52, 0:56:03]: Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. Holland. All right. Good deal. Thank you. Oh Mayor Mayor Fred. I'm sorry. My connection is kind of spotty. So just in case if I freeze. [0:56:04, 0:56:08]: You give me just a second to kind of regroup. That's all. Sure. No problem. [0:56:09, 0:56:09]: Thank you. [0:56:10, 0:56:12]: Thank you, Ms. Holiday, Ms. Johnson. We appreciate your efforts. [0:56:13, 0:56:26]: Great work. Thank you very much. Thank you everyone. Ms. Pitts, thank you. Um also uh Ms. Uh Matthews, appreciate you being here. You can stay as long as you like as well. But thank you for all your efforts uh from the office. Yes, ma'am. [0:56:26, 0:56:31]: Uh Chair Harrell is not on the call, but she was instrumental and I wanted to thank her as well. [0:56:32, 0:56:42]: Absolutely. Our chair is key to to all happen making this all. Absolutely. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you for catching that. Thank you very much. And we we appreciate Chair Harrell as well. [0:56:42, 0:57:00]: Um absolute okay. On that note, uh we're gonna move on to our next item, uh new business council consideration approved task order 28.1 with Carter and Sloop, Pine View Lyft Station Rehabilitation and Water Wave Force uh Maine and amount of [0:57:01, 0:57:10]: Forty eight thousand one hundred dollars. The funny source is the sewer fund balance presented by Mr. Aaron and Mr. Holsinger, please, gentlemen. [0:57:11, 0:57:22]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Mayor and Council. I'll let Mr. Holt Singer speak to this project as this is a continuation of staff's moving forward with upgrading our sewer collection system. [0:57:23, 0:57:37]: Thank you, Mayor and Council, for hearing me. Um this list station is over in Pine View, the recently developed subdivision. It serves prior to the Pine View, it served Pine Grove. [0:57:38, 0:57:39]: And Pine Grove was under [0:57:40, 0:57:41]: was half developed for [0:57:42, 0:57:44]: Many, many years. I don't even know how many years it was. [0:57:45, 0:57:49]: So that new listation twenty plus years ago set [0:57:50, 0:58:05]: rarely used and believe it or not in sewer something rarely used is not good. So hydrogen sulfide has worn it out and it's it's 20 plus years old anyway, so it's really time. [0:58:06, 0:58:09]: But with the addition of Pine View, it it helps it a lot. [0:58:11, 0:58:13]: Okay, appreciate that. [0:58:13, 0:58:15]: Uh Mr. Aaron, do you have anything you need to add, sir? [0:58:16, 0:58:26]: Um one other thing is we've been working with Mr. Wiggins and this will be reimbursable under the ARPA fund, so it would not be sewer fund balance. [0:58:27, 0:58:28]: Fantastic. [0:58:28, 0:58:29]: Great, great point. [0:58:30, 0:58:32]: Council, any questions for these gentlemen at all? [0:58:32, 0:58:34]: Yes. Go right in, please. [0:58:36, 0:58:41]: Okay. So let me ask uh in terms of this, of course this was placed there twenty years ago. [0:58:42, 0:58:44]: Uh in a forward thinking way. [0:58:44, 0:58:46]: The city's gonna grow. [0:58:46, 0:58:49]: Now what we put there twenty years ago. [0:58:49, 0:58:50]: May not have been adequate. [0:58:51, 0:58:54]: So was there some consideration given to the fact that [0:58:55, 0:59:09]: In this area it might it might be need a a larger size or a bigger uh type of uh apparatus because uh of uh the growth coming to the city. So was there some [0:59:09, 0:59:14]: Uh is there i is it are e is that even a consideration with the with the uh [0:59:14, 0:59:16]: Uh with this replacement. [0:59:16, 0:59:24]: Yes, sir. All that's being considered, uh, the growth. We're look we're looking forward. We're not looking to present or or back. We're looking forward. [0:59:25, 0:59:34]: Okay, so in terms of how this machinery that we put in there twenty years ago, is there better technology available now in terms of what we're going to? [0:59:34, 0:59:36]: Yes, sir, absolutely. So I mean [0:59:37, 0:59:39]: A hundredfold better technology. [0:59:40, 0:59:43]: Okay. Well that that's that's reassuring. Thank you. [0:59:46, 0:59:47]: Any other questions, Council? [0:59:50, 0:59:52]: If not, I need a motion to accept this proposal, please. [0:59:54, 0:59:55]: Come on. [0:59:55, 0:59:56]: Ms. Barber Solmu. [0:59:57, 0:59:58]: This cat. [0:59:59, 0:59:59]: A second. [1:00:00, 1:00:03]: Ms. Can seconds. Okay. Any further discussion? [1:00:03, 1:00:05]: If not all in favor, please indicate. [1:00:06, 1:00:12]: Okay, it's unanimous decision. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Council. Thank you, Mr. Aaron, Mr. Holsinger. [1:00:12, 1:00:14]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. [1:00:14, 1:00:22]: Council consideration to modify the development agreement for the 438 East Atlanta Road condominium community, presented by Ms. Johnson, please. [1:00:24, 1:00:27]: Good evening, Mayor, Council members, once again. [1:00:27, 1:00:38]: So um on the 25th of May, you all heard the um request for the development agreement for some modifications um originally. [1:00:39, 1:00:42]: for a property that had been rezoned to RM3. [1:00:43, 1:00:45]: In two thousand three. [1:00:45, 1:00:47]: And what they wanted to do was come in. [1:00:48, 1:00:50]: Update the um [1:00:50, 1:00:52]: Development agreement in order for them to build out. [1:00:53, 1:00:57]: um this particular project of 202 condominiums. [1:00:58, 1:01:03]: What has happened is um during that process, and I'll share my screen so you all can see. [1:01:04, 1:01:06]: What has currently been approved? [1:01:09, 1:01:11]: Well this is the development agreement. [1:01:12, 1:01:15]: That was approved by the city council on the twenty-fifth. [1:01:16, 1:01:26]: And again, this project was uh rezoned and the development grade originally was done in 2003. So I'm just gonna scroll down to the [1:01:27, 1:01:28]: Section. [1:01:28, 1:01:30]: that we are speaking of specifically. [1:01:31, 1:01:33]: Which is under the amenities package. [1:01:34, 1:01:35]: What if the applicant um [1:01:36, 1:01:38]: originally had in the [1:01:40, 1:01:43]: In the development agreement was to have the clubhouse. [1:01:43, 1:01:48]: Junior size Olympic pool, playgrounds, waiting pool, pocket park and [1:01:49, 1:01:50]: Walking trails. [1:01:50, 1:01:54]: Um there was the what you see X Dow is tennis courts. [1:01:55, 1:02:00]: The applicant contends that they're not able to add in tennis courts due to the fact that. [1:02:01, 1:02:01]: They have [1:02:02, 1:02:06]: They already have the amenities laid out and based on the [1:02:06, 1:02:08]: Layout of the property. [1:02:08, 1:02:11]: They're they're unable to put in tennis courts. [1:02:11, 1:02:14]: Let me show you what was also approved. [1:02:14, 1:02:18]: Can you all see my screen? I don't know if you can see the site plan. Yes, can you all see that? [1:02:18, 1:02:19]: Okay, super. [1:02:20, 1:02:21]: So let me zoom in. [1:02:21, 1:02:22]: Just a little bit. [1:02:23, 1:02:29]: So along East Atlanta Road, these are buffers here, and these are the proposed amenities that stated earlier. [1:02:29, 1:02:30]: Um [1:02:31, 1:02:36]: Which includes you know the pool, waiting area, walking trails and throughout. [1:02:36, 1:02:42]: And that sort of thing. Uh I do have um Ms. Michelle Battle on the line. [1:02:42, 1:02:46]: Um staff doesn't have any objection to the adjustment as [1:02:47, 1:02:49]: Um the amenities in [1:02:49, 1:02:55]: that are already being proposed do appear appropriate for that size development. [1:02:55, 1:02:57]: But we do have Miss Uh [1:02:58, 1:03:01]: Michelle Battle on the line to you know add anything additional. [1:03:02, 1:03:05]: Welcome, Miss Battle. Uh anything else you need to add at this point, ma'am? [1:03:06, 1:03:20]: Yes, I'd like to add a little bit more um information. Um when we started this project out, the site plan that you see here um was what we presented to city council on May the 10th. [1:03:20, 1:03:30]: Um, at that meeting there was still some questions about the proposed conditions, and we were asked to defer that matter to the May twenty fifth meeting. [1:03:31, 1:03:38]: um to work with the county or sorry, the city attorney and staff to make sure that we had the conditions correct. [1:03:39, 1:03:43]: The conditions that we originally submitted that you all saw on May 10th. [1:03:43, 1:03:45]: Did not include [1:03:45, 1:03:46]: The tennis courts. [1:03:47, 1:03:53]: Um, that was an addition that was made subsequent between the May 10th meeting and the May 25th meeting. [1:03:54, 1:03:54]: That [1:03:55, 1:03:57]: additional provision was added by staff. [1:03:58, 1:03:59]: Um [1:04:00, 1:04:11]: It is our understanding, and and I you know, I have no reason uh it's not even about believing Miss Johnson. She sent an email. I never received the email, I never saw the email. [1:04:11, 1:04:15]: I'm not saying she didn't send the email because clearly she's given us a copy of it. [1:04:15, 1:04:16]: Um but I didn't [1:04:17, 1:04:23]: For whatever reason, I don't know if I accidentally deleted it. I'm not really sure. But the bottom line is I did not see that email. [1:04:23, 1:04:33]: Um and so she had the changes that had been made um to the agreement um within that. Now I had sent her one that had [1:04:33, 1:04:36]: modifications and red lines in it. [1:04:36, 1:04:40]: Um, she did not um see that in the package that I sent over to her. [1:04:40, 1:04:57]: So she did her own red line and then she also went back through, and I think appropriately the code to verify in information um and to make sure, you know, there were a couple of other little tweaks and changes that were made to the conditions. Um at the hearing on May 25th. [1:04:57, 1:04:58]: Um, there was no [1:04:59, 1:05:00]: discussion. [1:05:00, 1:05:02]: About the tennis courts. [1:05:02, 1:05:03]: Um [1:05:03, 1:05:08]: But we did show this site plan and it was conditioned on this site plan. [1:05:09, 1:05:23]: Which does not show the tennis courts. So if we could see the fullness of the site plan, we can't really see the whole thing. Um, Ms. Johnson, if you wouldn't mind um smalling it up a little bit, you will see um that. [1:05:23, 1:05:28]: Um, we don't have when we look at the bottom portion of the site. [1:05:28, 1:05:31]: Um, where the other amenity areas because we have two [1:05:32, 1:05:32]: Um [1:05:33, 1:05:50]: uh pocket parks, playground areas that you all requested. And then the back portion of the property as well the tr is where the trail is and is not um suitable because it's um uh more sensitive environmental areas in the back. So it's not suitable for a tennis court. [1:05:50, 1:05:51]: Um [1:05:51, 1:05:55]: DRB has found that quite honestly, tennis courts are [1:05:55, 1:05:57]: Um sommet old school. [1:05:58, 1:05:58]: Um [1:05:59, 1:06:03]: We have quite a bit of other amenities on this site. [1:06:03, 1:06:05]: I know that um [1:06:05, 1:06:11]: You know, certainly the USTA would love to continue to encourage people to put tennis courts in. [1:06:11, 1:06:13]: uh communities. [1:06:13, 1:06:16]: But the truth of the matter is they are expensive to maintain. [1:06:16, 1:06:18]: Um the HOA has to um [1:06:19, 1:06:25]: Provide the resurfacing for the tennis courts. Um, and if people are not using them on a regular basis. [1:06:25, 1:06:31]: then it's you know they end up turning into other things as opposed to people just playing tennis. [1:06:31, 1:06:51]: Um, if there were a place on here uh to actually put the tennis courts, um, we would certainly come back and and provide that. But there's really no place without um reducing the size and locations of the other amenities. And even with that, there just isn't a spot on here um for. [1:06:51, 1:07:02]: tennis courts. So we are respectfully requesting that the site plan that you all approved be upheld and that that additional condition of the tennis courts be removed. [1:07:03, 1:07:06]: Okay, thank you for that. Uh questions for the council. [1:07:06, 1:07:07]: Council. [1:07:07, 1:07:11]: Yes, sir. You go right here, Mayor Protein. Let me just say this right off the bat. [1:07:12, 1:07:14]: Now I'm gonna tell you how the tennis courts got in there. [1:07:15, 1:07:16]: We talked about [1:07:16, 1:07:22]: uh being consistent with what we had going on with um in our communities in stockridge. [1:07:22, 1:07:30]: My community has a tennis court. I think pretty much all of our communities have some type of facility that's interested. [1:07:30, 1:07:32]: in that in in in doing that. [1:07:33, 1:07:36]: I think we talked about uh the facilities that we were putting in. [1:07:37, 1:07:39]: Uh at Brandon Road and [1:07:39, 1:07:49]: and other areas and we wanted to be very uh consistent with what we had had going uh here uh in the city of Stockbridge. Now personally for me. [1:07:50, 1:07:56]: I'm sorry, Ms. Bowdo, I'm not voting to change the tennis court. If you want to sacrif you if you need to. [1:07:56, 1:07:59]: Uh move and remove a unit or so. [1:07:59, 1:08:14]: then that would be your prerogative. If you want to abandon the project, that's your prerogative. But in the end, what we're trying to do here is to be uh very consistent and have high quality neighborhoods with as many amenities as possible. [1:08:15, 1:08:16]: To move through. [1:08:16, 1:08:17]: Uh, this particular [1:08:18, 1:08:18]: Um [1:08:19, 1:08:20]: uh you know without zonings [1:08:21, 1:08:25]: We want to I'm I'm speaking for myself, I don't speak for everybody else. [1:08:25, 1:08:28]: But from from my standpoint, we're trying to set the standard. [1:08:28, 1:08:36]: for what we want to come to the city. And we want everybody to bring an a junior elephant size pool, a tennis court. [1:08:36, 1:08:40]: A clubhouse because we want every community to be [1:08:40, 1:08:43]: of a quality community and sending that message out. [1:08:44, 1:08:44]: Uh really. [1:08:45, 1:08:46]: With something that [1:08:46, 1:08:49]: I'm firmly convinced we are, and I understand. [1:08:49, 1:08:51]: You know, we we did this zoning. [1:08:51, 1:08:54]: And uh we approved it and we approved it. [1:08:55, 1:08:57]: In a manner that I'm satisfied with. [1:08:57, 1:09:01]: Today and I understand, you know, developers have to make tough choices. [1:09:01, 1:09:05]: Sometimes you gotta make tough choices. You gotta you might have to reduce [1:09:05, 1:09:08]: The overall number of units in order to fit it in there. [1:09:08, 1:09:10]: But at some point [1:09:10, 1:09:11]: It needs to fit in there. [1:09:11, 1:09:15]: Now I'm not the only one on this council and they'll have to make [1:09:15, 1:09:25]: the decision for themselves, but for me personally, I'm never going to vote to remove anything that we have and that we require because we're trying to raise the standards in the city. [1:09:27, 1:09:47]: Council member, um, I would like to reflect that um Brandon Road that was approved does not have tennis courts. And um, you know, it's easy to say remove a few units and put the tennis courts in, but all we're doing is increasing the amount of um HOA dues and assessments that this community is gonna have to. [1:09:47, 1:09:55]: To abide by because the bottom line is they are responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of these facilities. And with two [1:09:55, 1:09:56]: Um [1:09:56, 1:09:59]: uh playgrounds uh [1:10:00, 1:10:11]: A Olympic size uh tennis. I mean Olympic size pool. Um, we require to do a uh enclosed clubhouse. Um, we are really stacking up the amount. [1:10:11, 1:10:11]: Of [1:10:12, 1:10:31]: uh money that will have to be paid out by these residents in order to maintain this community. And the fewer units we have, the higher the dues are that they're going to have to pay. We believe that, you know, what we put forth is a quality community, that the amenities, quite honestly, [1:10:31, 1:10:37]: are over and above these amenities that we have in here are almost as extensive as the ones that we had on B Brandon Road. [1:10:38, 1:10:40]: Um and I think that [1:10:40, 1:10:40]: You know [1:10:41, 1:10:46]: If we're looking about quality, I think that, you know, we have established that with what we have. [1:10:46, 1:10:48]: What we had agreed to. [1:10:48, 1:10:52]: In essence, back on May tenth, it was after that time. [1:10:52, 1:11:12]: Uh, and certainly not our understanding because we would have gone back to put in those tennis courts if that was something that had been acknowledged to us at that time as being pertinent to getting this matter approved. So I would just respectfully request, I understand Councilmember Alexander's position. Um, obviously there [1:11:12, 1:11:32]: There are some other of you that are going to be voting as well. And I would just hope that there would be some consideration given to the fact that, you know, this particular community is stacked with amenities. It is not devoid of amenities. This is going to be a very, very nice community. And we want people to be able to come in here and be able to afford to stay. [1:11:32, 1:11:33]: Stay here. [1:11:33, 1:11:53]: And be incentivized to pay their HOA dues and not be so high that people decide, well, you know what, I'm just not gonna pay them. Um, and now we've got other problems because then we end up in other situations with foreclosures and liens and all kinds of other stuff. So again, we would respectfully request that that tennis court requirement be removed. [1:11:53, 1:11:57]: because we don't see a space on here to be able to place it. Thank you. [1:12:03, 1:12:04]: Mayor. [1:12:08, 1:12:12]: I'm sorry, I had Ms. Gang, go ahead. I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was muted. Go ahead, Ms. Gang. Thank you. [1:12:12, 1:12:13]: Who? [1:12:13, 1:12:14]: Who [1:12:15, 1:12:19]: told them that the tennis courts were a requirement in the first place. [1:12:20, 1:12:27]: Was this something, Ms. Johnson? Did you make this a requirement that they were required to have tennis courts? [1:12:34, 1:12:39]: So I'm I'm sorry about that. So um Council McGantt, the requirement is is in the code. [1:12:39, 1:12:46]: And it was added back for the applicant to review and respond back. [1:12:47, 1:13:01]: um on any changes or any say, hey, we can do it, we can't do it, what have you. And what Ms. Battle alluded to earlier as not having seen the email, the email was sent, confirmed, however, I don't think her team saw it. [1:13:02, 1:13:06]: Um but it was added back for that for that fact. [1:13:06, 1:13:11]: Is it our tennis recourt are tennis courts re a requirement in our code? [1:13:12, 1:13:15]: Yes, for RMRM three. Yes, ma'am, they are. [1:13:15, 1:13:16]: They are required. [1:13:16, 1:13:21]: Mm-hmm. Okay. Now I don't know what previous discussions were. [1:13:21, 1:13:26]: for the development agreement in 2003 when it originally got rezoned. [1:13:27, 1:13:31]: So I don't know what the conversations were around it, where it wasn't in the development agreement. [1:13:32, 1:13:38]: But when we went back through, I said, okay, we just have to make sure that we're not drawing any holes in what the requirements are. [1:13:39, 1:13:45]: as we you know update from 2003 requirements to where we are today in our code. [1:13:46, 1:13:46]: Okay. [1:13:47, 1:13:51]: So all subdivisions, all new subdivisions are required to have a tennis court. [1:13:52, 1:13:54]: For arm three, arm two and arm three. [1:13:55, 1:14:00]: Yes, if they are townhomes, condos, those types of things. [1:14:01, 1:14:03]: Oh, we typically try to do. [1:14:03, 1:14:10]: uh with with developments like these and new developments is um if you're phasing a project since this will be new. [1:14:10, 1:14:15]: You know, you don't have any residents to really talk to about, hey, what would you like to have in your community? [1:14:15, 1:14:19]: But as we have other developments that are phased in, phase two or three. [1:14:20, 1:14:25]: We have conversations between the builder and the HOA on what they'd like to see. [1:14:26, 1:14:31]: Um in this case we just kind of just did it bare bones as far as meeting the requirements of the code. [1:14:33, 1:14:34]: Okay. [1:14:34, 1:14:36]: And and a staff recommendation. [1:14:37, 1:14:41]: to keep the tennis court, what what is your recommendation? [1:14:41, 1:14:48]: Well, the recommendation is, you know, we don't staff doesn't necessarily an inherent issue with the tennis course not being there. [1:14:49, 1:14:55]: Um this is somewhat of a small development. They have a larger pool than what's required. [1:14:55, 1:14:56]: Um [1:14:56, 1:15:00]: And they have the trails, which of course are co co-required. [1:15:00, 1:15:02]: But um [1:15:02, 1:15:19]: I think it really just depends on how they believe the residents will actually utilize those amenities. Because really that's what it boils down to how and the type of use that the residents will have from those amenities. So we don't have a I don't have a major objection to it. [1:15:19, 1:15:20]: Um [1:15:20, 1:15:24]: But of course it is is the will of the council as far as what you like to see. [1:15:28, 1:15:28]: Yeah. [1:15:30, 1:15:32]: Any other uh Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:15:35, 1:15:41]: Yes, thank you, Mayor. Um Ms. Brecker, what what is what are what are the uh code um [1:15:42, 1:15:46]: That you said there was not code, I'm sorry, the um um [1:15:46, 1:15:50]: zonings that we have that require [1:15:51, 1:15:51]: Um [1:15:52, 1:15:53]: Pools. [1:15:54, 1:16:14]: So under RM2 and RM3, those are your higher density types of developments like condos, like townhomes, where you would have that full list of um of amenities in that community. It doesn't have [1:16:14, 1:16:16]: have a trigger based on the number of units. [1:16:17, 1:16:23]: But it just requires that if you're building this type of community, that it requires you to have each of these amenities included. [1:16:24, 1:16:26]: Okay, follow-up question on that. Um [1:16:27, 1:16:30]: How many units are in this subdivision? [1:16:30, 1:16:33]: versus the units that we just approved for Brandon Rose. [1:16:34, 1:16:45]: There are 202 condominium units for this particular project. I believe it's uh 139 or so. And correct me if I'm wrong, uh Miss Battle. [1:16:46, 1:16:51]: That's correct. So uh lots single family detached for Brandon Road. [1:16:51, 1:16:54]: So what is a zone, Brandon Road zone? [1:16:55, 1:16:59]: Uh, I believe it's R3 as well. I have to double check that. [1:17:00, 1:17:04]: So we're looking at R three and so the requirements for that. [1:17:05, 1:17:14]: We didn't require them to put a tennis court there. It was that like a a a variance that was put in that we said, okay, you can build it without the tennis court. [1:17:15, 1:17:27]: Um I I I'm not for sure it was approved before I started with the city. But what I can do is go back and take a look at um what the requirements were at that time. [1:17:28, 1:17:30]: per conversations and the code itself. [1:17:32, 1:17:35]: Well well that's important because if we're approving [1:17:35, 1:17:36]: Um [1:17:36, 1:17:40]: subdivisions that are s have the same type zoning. [1:17:41, 1:17:46]: uh to have a variance in place for certain amenities. [1:17:46, 1:17:48]: Then we have to be careful and cautious. [1:17:49, 1:17:51]: When there's other menities put in another [1:17:51, 1:17:52]: Uh development. [1:17:52, 1:17:55]: that wasn't asked for but are that are um [1:17:56, 1:18:04]: I think are good amenities for that development, but then we put in a requirement to come in for that. So I would like the information. [1:18:05, 1:18:10]: to know when would the random uh what was if they're both [1:18:10, 1:18:11]: Can fall into R three. [1:18:12, 1:18:13]: Ден [1:18:13, 1:18:16]: How do we determine as a council? [1:18:16, 1:18:20]: Who gets to put in a tennis court and who doesn't? Either we're gonna stick with [1:18:21, 1:18:23]: This is the way it's supposed to be, or we're gonna [1:18:24, 1:18:28]: I I don't want to put in the hand the counsel to say, hey, who gets the tendency court and who doesn't? [1:18:28, 1:18:40]: Because I think that with this, in my opinion, with this development, they put in this uh really nice pool, they put in trails that are not under the coat. And I think those are excellent amenities for that area. And I'm looking at the uh [1:18:40, 1:18:42]: Outlay for the um [1:18:42, 1:18:44]: For the project itself. [1:18:44, 1:18:49]: And so s there was some seemed like there was some disconnect somewhere between [1:18:50, 1:18:52]: The city and [1:18:52, 1:18:59]: You, Ms. Battle, there was some disconnect somewhere when it came to paperwork and what you all understood versus what was required. [1:19:00, 1:19:02]: And so is that a fault of? [1:19:03, 1:19:08]: The developer or is that a uh oversight by the city? We don't know that as a council. [1:19:09, 1:19:13]: Because something something didn't connect somewhere what we're hearing today. [1:19:14, 1:19:18]: But then first of all, we gotta address that and find out who dropped the ball. [1:19:19, 1:19:22]: But this my second the the first point I made is [1:19:22, 1:19:29]: Is that we have to be careful when we have zoning for different developments, the same type zoning, but we can pick and choose. [1:19:29, 1:19:34]: the requirement codes for who who has to put in what type of development and who doesn't. [1:19:35, 1:19:38]: And so that's that's where I'm at with that. So [1:19:38, 1:19:46]: Uh Miss Bowder, I have no when when did you have an understanding, Miss Uh Battle, that you had to put in a tennis court? [1:19:47, 1:19:51]: We actually didn't know. [1:19:51, 1:19:53]: So um [1:19:54, 1:20:00]: It my understanding is I well not my understanding. I sent over an email with the changes to the development. [1:20:01, 1:20:03]: agreement along with a red line. [1:20:04, 1:20:11]: Um showing exactly the changes that we had proposed prior to the May 25th hearing. [1:20:12, 1:20:26]: Um, Ms. Johnson um sent an email out. Um, I cannot explain why I did not see it. I of course get a ton of emails, just like I'm sure she does. Um, so I'm not saying she didn't send it. I'm just saying I didn't see it. [1:20:27, 1:20:28]: Um and so [1:20:28, 1:20:29]: Um [1:20:30, 1:20:32]: And our engineer even said he didn't see it. [1:20:33, 1:20:37]: So I'm sorry, forgive me. What what was the email supposed to be stating? [1:20:37, 1:20:40]: The the email had a red line. [1:20:40, 1:20:41]: Of [1:20:41, 1:20:48]: the changes that staff had proposed to the um development agreement. [1:20:48, 1:20:52]: Um, which included not only the changes that we had made. [1:20:53, 1:20:54]: But also additional [1:20:54, 1:20:56]: changes that staff had made. [1:20:57, 1:20:59]: And at the hearing on the twenty fifth. [1:21:00, 1:21:15]: There was no we didn't see that markup and we didn't have any markup um before the meeting. I did not, I will take responsibility for that. I did not go online, pull off the agenda and look at what had been submitted to you all. [1:21:16, 1:21:19]: So on the twenty fifth, if you go back and read listen to the tape. [1:21:19, 1:21:22]: There was no mention about the tennis courts. [1:21:22, 1:21:27]: Um, and I would think that if the tennis courts were going to be required. [1:21:27, 1:21:32]: That we would have been told that we needed to go back and amend our site plan. [1:21:33, 1:21:35]: so that it would actually reflect. [1:21:35, 1:21:36]: The tennis courts. [1:21:37, 1:21:40]: Because this was conditioned on a site plan. [1:21:41, 1:21:43]: So this condition of adding the tennis courts. [1:21:44, 1:21:46]: Із актуальної ад. [1:21:46, 1:21:47]: To a certain extent. [1:21:47, 1:21:49]: with the um [1:21:50, 1:21:54]: approved site plan because our site plan clearly does not show any tennis courts. [1:21:55, 1:21:55]: So [1:21:55, 1:22:00]: Subsequent to the hearing, you know, we were all kind of going back and forth with [1:22:00, 1:22:02]: Um, the development agreement. [1:22:02, 1:22:03]: And I guess [1:22:04, 1:22:10]: None of us on our side was even thinking about tennis court. So nobody was, you know, thinking that that's what had happened and had been added in. [1:22:10, 1:22:13]: We signed the agreement as it was and we moved on. [1:22:13, 1:22:17]: as they were preparing for their LDP. [1:22:17, 1:22:19]: That's when we found out, oh crap. [1:22:19, 1:22:23]: We've got to put in tennis courts and where did that come from? [1:22:23, 1:22:27]: So then we had to go back and kind of backtrack to see when that language was put in. [1:22:28, 1:22:30]: So at this point, um [1:22:31, 1:22:32]: Again. [1:22:32, 1:22:37]: When we look at the Brandon Road and I I find it interesting because I did Brandon Road. [1:22:37, 1:22:42]: And during Brandon Road, there was no discussion about the tennis courts, and I'm not sure. [1:22:42, 1:22:45]: why that was Ms. Johnson was not here. [1:22:45, 1:22:50]: But I was not aware of any tennis courts then, and there are no tennis courts that are being provided. [1:22:50, 1:22:52]: Um, on Brandon Road. [1:22:52, 1:22:59]: Now, when I'm looking down um through the um district requirements and I'm trying to actually find [1:22:59, 1:23:11]: um in the R three and I must be missing something here, but I don't I don't see the requirement of the uh the tennis courts there. I do see in the RM district. [1:23:11, 1:23:17]: That it talks about tennis courts, but it also has that as an alternative. [1:23:17, 1:23:18]: Um that you've got to pick. [1:23:18, 1:23:23]: one of a couple of different things, a waiting pool, a tennis court, or walking trails. [1:23:23, 1:23:24]: Um we pick. [1:23:24, 1:23:35]: You know, I guess from our perspective, we pick walking trails. But I, you know, maybe that's the wrong section of the code that I'm looking at. And there, you know, Ms. Johnson can direct me to the to the right space because I'm not seeing it. [1:23:36, 1:23:37]: In the ar three itself. [1:23:38, 1:23:40]: But I'm not saying it's not there. I just don't see it there. [1:23:41, 1:23:41]: So [1:23:41, 1:23:42]: Um [1:23:42, 1:23:44]: I I guess. [1:23:44, 1:23:46]: You know, I hope that responds to your question. [1:23:47, 1:23:51]: Um, if we need to take more time to get this addressed, I that's fine too. [1:23:51, 1:23:53]: Um, I just feel that. [1:23:53, 1:23:54]: At the end of the day. [1:23:55, 1:23:57]: If that requirement and that it was. [1:23:58, 1:23:59]: was added. [1:23:59, 1:24:03]: That we should have been asked to update the site plan to reflect. [1:24:04, 1:24:11]: That we had to have a tennis court because then we would have been able to discuss that more fully at that time and would have known. [1:24:11, 1:24:16]: Okay, well, we're gonna lose some lots if we have to put these tennis courts in, but we may have also [1:24:17, 1:24:19]: had further negotiations on [1:24:19, 1:24:25]: You know, some of the amenities that we added because I don't think we were required to have two clubhouse, you know, two playgrounds. [1:24:26, 1:24:28]: We're not, you know, the the size of the clubhouse. [1:24:29, 1:24:30]: Um the pool. [1:24:30, 1:24:36]: Um, some of those other things. I mean, these are all costs and expenses that are gonna get passed along to these residents. [1:24:37, 1:24:41]: Um, and they are gonna be responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of them, not us. [1:24:41, 1:24:46]: So I just, you know, that that's where our prov our position is on it. [1:24:46, 1:24:54]: Yeah, my uh just a follow up, Mayor, and this is the point I'm trying to make and I I think I thank you, uh, Miss Battle. [1:24:54, 1:24:57]: Because when this site plan came to this council [1:24:58, 1:25:04]: I remember this council saying, Hey, we need this, we need that, we need this, we need that, and everything that we said we wanted. [1:25:05, 1:25:11]: That's what we have on here. And what was not on here at the time that what we said we wanted wasn't the tennis court. [1:25:12, 1:25:14]: Yet we approved this development. [1:25:15, 1:25:17]: Just like we did the Brandon Road development. [1:25:19, 1:25:24]: And if there's some discrepancies on on the language and understanding and the codes. [1:25:25, 1:25:31]: Those things should have been brought together or brought forward and those things should have been brought to counsel that hey [1:25:32, 1:25:36]: prior to approving this, this site plan should have been looked at. [1:25:37, 1:25:45]: And if there's any code or anything that doesn't meet the code in it, it should have been brought to us prior to us approving it. [1:25:45, 1:25:52]: But the site plan has been approved. All the amenities asked for by this council has been put on there. [1:25:52, 1:25:54]: And I'm gonna agree with Miss Johnson. [1:25:54, 1:25:57]: Is that uh I'm ready to approve it because [1:25:58, 1:26:03]: We just approved the development without a wit without a uh uh uh tennis court. [1:26:04, 1:26:05]: And right now [1:26:05, 1:26:16]: We are pr this this development has put in amenities in there that I don't think is commonplace in other communities. Uh with the the the junior size Olympic pool. [1:26:17, 1:26:24]: And and and the the the the pocket park and all these other things that were put in there. And if it was something in the code. [1:26:24, 1:26:39]: that wasn't in this development agreement uh uh in this site agreement, it should have been brought to us prior to tonight. It should have been brought to us prior to agreeing to this. This is not the first time these documents have come forward. [1:26:40, 1:26:47]: I'm not one council member that operates like this. So this is something that I say we have to be consistent in what we do. [1:26:47, 1:26:55]: Uh I think that you all uh Miss Ms. Bader with this development has put some awesome things in there that we've that we've asked for. [1:26:55, 1:26:58]: And if there's a discrepancy on something that we didn't ask for. [1:26:59, 1:27:04]: I think that we this council should move forward forward tonight in the in in approving this our project. [1:27:05, 1:27:05]: Thank you. [1:27:06, 1:27:07]: Okay, um [1:27:08, 1:27:18]: Mr. Alexander, uh you've already how many times have you spoken? Maybe we've spoken twice? Okay, go right here. Go right in. Let me make something perfectly clear. Okay. [1:27:18, 1:27:21]: The tennis courts should have been in Brandon Road. [1:27:22, 1:27:26]: Just like the chase bank on Eagles Landing should have had brick on it. [1:27:27, 1:27:29]: Prior to Miss Johnson's arrival [1:27:29, 1:27:31]: We weren't following the code. [1:27:32, 1:27:36]: Since Ms. Johnson has come, we're now following the code. [1:27:36, 1:27:39]: See, decisions were being made like [1:27:39, 1:27:41]: Giving a variance. [1:27:42, 1:27:43]: Which basically [1:27:43, 1:28:03]: uh was inappropriate to the chase bank so they did not have to have brick on the building even though we have a city ordinance that says mayor mayor we want to require mayor mayor 50 percent brick mayor forty percent standby please stand by uh what's what's what's what's the standby mr what's the point of order mr Blount what's going on here [1:28:03, 1:28:06]: Mayor, we have a project right in front of us right now. [1:28:06, 1:28:08]: And to deviate. [1:28:08, 1:28:26]: to another business and bel in in in this belitimate form of how they built the business. Hold the council. Inappropriate council. Poll the council. Folks, folks. Poll the council. Hold the council. No, no, no. Okay. Go ahead. Can I finish my point of order there? Yeah, please. Go ahead, please. [1:28:26, 1:28:32]: My comments were interrupted. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. It's not appropriate. [1:28:33, 1:28:39]: For this council to sit on here and make an example of inefficiencies of any business. [1:28:39, 1:28:42]: We're making a point on what we're trying to do here. [1:28:43, 1:28:47]: The point of order is that's a diversion of what we're dealing with. We're not [1:28:47, 1:28:51]: That's a done deal on anything that's been built and then and in progress right now. [1:28:52, 1:29:12]: We can't sit here and belittle anybody's development or what anybody's doing right now that has nothing to do with what's at hand right now, pertaining to our code, pertaining to this, what is the zone for? We need to stick to this and not bring any other business that's in the city of Stockbridge that's already built and done into this conversation. [1:29:12, 1:29:14]: Conversation I think is inappropriate. [1:29:15, 1:29:35]: Okay, thank you. Miss Alexander, please stay on task in reference to the speaker. But Mayor, wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm making a point that is exactly the point. Ms. Johnson's it was a Miss Johnson's credibility was attacked saying that she was making decisions that wasn't consistent with the code. When exactly she's doing just that. She's following the code. [1:29:35, 1:29:44]: She was reviewing the code and she saw that this development was deficient. So she made a suggestion to correct the deficiency. [1:29:44, 1:29:45]: And the code. [1:29:46, 1:29:56]: As we have seen before, as I said, the business that did not put the brick on the building, they agreed to put the brick on the building when we asked them to do it because it was in the code. [1:29:57, 1:30:01]: Even though that they were allowed, they were told to proceed without the brick. [1:30:02, 1:30:15]: In violation of the law, which it should have been brought to council because in order to override an ordinance, you have to pass you, you have to bring it to council like Miss Johnson is doing tonight. She's following the code. [1:30:15, 1:30:18]: Okay, if that ch if that if the Chase Bank had a [1:30:19, 1:30:19]: Okay. [1:30:20, 1:30:28]: Okay. Not wanting brick on the building and they would have brought it to us, we would have had to vote on it. We we we did not we did not follow the code. So in this case, the [1:30:34, 1:30:35]: Are you freezing up? [1:30:35, 1:30:36]: Looks like. [1:30:37, 1:30:41]: Ma Mayor Ford, can I ask a one question prior to this course? [1:30:41, 1:30:44]: Okay. She informed the applicant. [1:30:44, 1:30:45]: True email. [1:30:46, 1:30:56]: The applicant says they didn't get the email, they didn't respond, all of the above. But that does not change the fact that the code requires the tennis court. [1:30:57, 1:31:17]: Now again, we can go out on our own and we can diminish the fact that the code don't mean nothing. So if if tonight we're gonna go ahead and override the code, just why are we writing the ULDC again? If every time there's a code, somebody wants to uh take something out of the code, we okay with it. Brandon Rose. [1:31:16, 1:31:30]: Should have had tennis courts in it. Somebody approved it and brought it to the council without the tennis courts. That's what I'm saying. If Miss Johnson had a Brandon Road. [1:31:30, 1:31:35]: Run and roll and have tennis courts too. Okay, so [1:31:35, 1:31:46]: May Mayor Ford Mayor Mayor Ford Metaph ask one. Mr. Thomas, I'll come to you in just a second, sir. Ms. Battle, go ahead, please. [1:31:46, 1:31:53]: Um, could I ask um I and I should have asked this previously, and I apologize, uh, Ms. Johnson, for not asking that. [1:31:53, 1:31:55]: Could you please give me the code section? [1:31:55, 1:32:05]: that states that the tennis courts are required because I've been perusing through here and I honestly don't see it. I see it in the RM. Absolutely. Absolutely. Is section 12? [1:32:06, 1:32:07]: Point zero two [1:32:07, 1:32:13]: Point three zero one, I'm sorry, twelve, point zero two, point zero three one zero. [1:32:14, 1:32:21]: And it's multifamily residential district. It's RM1, RM2, and RM3 of the school scroll quite a bit. [1:32:22, 1:32:26]: Because there's a heading that says amenities and it breaks down each of the amenities required by code. [1:32:28, 1:32:29]: Okay. And [1:32:30, 1:32:37]: I don't know why I thought you said we resolved. One lighted and enclosed facility featuring a minimum of two playing courts. [1:32:41, 1:32:50]: And that's under uh amenities, is the letter F. It says when additional amenities are required, the developer of the property shall select. [1:32:50, 1:32:56]: From the following list of additional required amenities. So we can select from that list. Is that not correct? [1:32:57, 1:33:00]: And what we selected was the walking trails, not the tennis courts. [1:33:02, 1:33:02]: Okay. [1:33:03, 1:33:06]: And that would have been something that the council had to determine at that time. [1:33:06, 1:33:11]: Right, but it says that I can select right. It doesn't say that the tennis court is required. [1:33:12, 1:33:14]: Right. So I will think this what [1:33:15, 1:33:19]: What I've we've done on the staff level is just ensure. [1:33:19, 1:33:20]: That [1:33:20, 1:33:27]: The proper code requirements were provided to the applicant. We did not hear back from the applicant and move forward with. [1:33:28, 1:33:30]: The required um [1:33:30, 1:33:32]: Submittal to the council. [1:33:32, 1:33:40]: Um I don't of course as as Ms. Um Battle said, they missed it, they didn't see it, what have you, and there was no discussion. [1:33:40, 1:33:42]: Outside of them having seen. [1:33:42, 1:33:44]: So um [1:33:44, 1:33:46]: So this is where we where we are today. [1:33:47, 1:33:51]: Okay. Would it be possible to share the screen to show I've got that. [1:33:51, 1:33:52]: Um section up. [1:33:53, 1:33:55]: Um because it's clear that it it [1:33:55, 1:33:58]: While tennis courses it's an option, what is [1:33:58, 1:34:01]: specifically required for what I can see is the [1:34:01, 1:34:05]: A minimum of thirteen hundred square foot clubhouse. [1:34:05, 1:34:10]: A junior size Olympic pool and children's play area. Those are the things that are [1:34:10, 1:34:12]: А худо процент. [1:34:12, 1:34:13]: And then we are to select. [1:34:14, 1:34:19]: from the balance, which gave us an option of a waiting pool, a tennis court, a walking trail. [1:34:19, 1:34:27]: A central park or a pocket park, baseball fields. It gave us a laundry list of things we could choose from. And we chose the tennis court. [1:34:28, 1:34:31]: and the waiting I'm sorry, we chose the waiting pool and the walking trails. [1:34:32, 1:34:33]: And the pocket part. [1:34:35, 1:34:38]: Okay. And that's in the code. So this battle. [1:34:38, 1:34:45]: This is Jeremy. I respectfully I'm gonna disagree because the section says or such other amenities of equal or greater value. [1:34:46, 1:34:48]: А зикал має пров. [1:34:49, 1:34:50]: And that's what the council approved. [1:34:51, 1:34:56]: I mean I understand the council uh the council approved that and didn't even know that it was added itself. [1:34:58, 1:35:00]: Well, there was good foresight, I suppose. [1:35:00, 1:35:09]: I mean, you know, it it gave us options, and the options that we chose were the options that were shown on the site plan. [1:35:10, 1:35:21]: And so we approved it based on the site plan. And now we're being told that we have to add tennis courts, which was an optional choice based on the laundry list of things we could choose from. [1:35:21, 1:35:24]: Mm, I don't know if we need more time to to be able to reflect on this. [1:35:25, 1:35:27]: But but it just seems to me that [1:35:28, 1:35:35]: We had we presented what it was that we believed that we can install, which was over and above the regular stuff. [1:35:35, 1:35:41]: And so at this point, we're just trying to understand. We didn't understand how the tennis courts got in there. [1:35:41, 1:35:48]: Um, this would require a revision of the site plan, which means that we will be modifying the site plan that it was approved based on. [1:35:50, 1:35:56]: Gancement Thomas. Mayor. Stand by, stand by, please. Mr. Thomas, please. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. [1:35:56, 1:35:57]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:35:58, 1:36:04]: Originally I was going to say I I appreciate this conversation, but look like it sort of went somewhere else. [1:36:05, 1:36:12]: But but but let me say this and a couple of things and I I appreciate this this dialogue because we have to get it right. [1:36:12, 1:36:15]: Uh, and I think we have to be consistent with that. [1:36:15, 1:36:20]: And even if when we're talking about mod modifying and upgrading. [1:36:20, 1:36:21]: The UDC. [1:36:22, 1:36:28]: Uh w we have to get it right. The language need to be clear. And and this is what I say. [1:36:29, 1:36:29]: When [1:36:30, 1:36:31]: A developer [1:36:32, 1:36:35]: Or developers come to the city of Stockbridge. [1:36:36, 1:36:39]: It needs to be clear and and I think Mrs. Johnson. [1:36:39, 1:36:44]: And I think you you're doing a great job in trying to clarify uh just that. [1:36:44, 1:36:45]: Um [1:36:45, 1:36:49]: And I Mrs. Battle, you you you you make a valid point there. [1:36:49, 1:36:50]: Uh um [1:36:50, 1:36:51]: Mr. Berry. [1:36:52, 1:36:55]: Uh you made a point and see, and the reason I'm saying all of this. [1:36:56, 1:36:57]: Is [1:36:57, 1:36:59]: There seemed to be [1:37:00, 1:37:02]: Uh it seemed to be not clear. [1:37:02, 1:37:08]: And then I think this is our role here today and going forward is to make it clear. [1:37:08, 1:37:12]: Now the the thing that I really want to say that [1:37:12, 1:37:16]: When we start uh allowing developers to come in [1:37:17, 1:37:21]: I'm thinking of those homeowners, those folks that are looking to [1:37:21, 1:37:24]: To move into the city of Stark Bridge. [1:37:24, 1:37:26]: Or they're trying to upgrade. [1:37:26, 1:37:30]: And so we want to make sure that the quality of life [1:37:30, 1:37:36]: uh for all of these folk that are coming in and and and they're looking to us to get it right. [1:37:37, 1:37:43]: So we have to get it right. So I'm not disappointed in this conversation tonight. This is it's the process of us. [1:37:44, 1:37:45]: Get it right. [1:37:45, 1:37:46]: Um [1:37:47, 1:37:51]: I saw a report recently about young [1:37:52, 1:37:53]: Black girls [1:37:53, 1:37:55]: That are [1:37:55, 1:37:57]: Uh infuse into tennis. [1:37:58, 1:38:07]: So I don't know if that's old school or not, Mrs. Battle. Now what what I see, I see a lot of young folks that's getting into tennis and getting into golf. I know we can't do a golf course. [1:38:08, 1:38:09]: But but I'm just saying [1:38:10, 1:38:12]: From my perspective [1:38:13, 1:38:14]: Health. [1:38:14, 1:38:16]: Wellness and fitness [1:38:16, 1:38:19]: I think those are attractive. [1:38:19, 1:38:21]: Amenities [1:38:21, 1:38:30]: that would be in any um new subdivision or any new uh development that is coming. And and and that's my perspective right there. [1:38:30, 1:38:33]: I I would only want to approve of [1:38:34, 1:38:38]: Something where it is going to be attractive. But again [1:38:38, 1:38:41]: We have to do these things, uh, w which is in the code. [1:38:42, 1:38:43]: So [1:38:43, 1:38:46]: I think what we are seeing here and what we're hearing. [1:38:46, 1:38:47]: Is that [1:38:47, 1:38:48]: Um [1:38:48, 1:38:50]: We're not communicating. [1:38:51, 1:38:53]: Code is not clear. [1:38:53, 1:38:56]: Uh, there's a breakdown somewhere. [1:38:56, 1:39:02]: So I think we have to sort of get it right because one thing I know that we want to do as a municipality and the city. [1:39:03, 1:39:06]: We do want to allow these developments. [1:39:06, 1:39:07]: We want to get it right. [1:39:08, 1:39:11]: And we want to be able to offer [1:39:12, 1:39:15]: these developments for folks that are looking [1:39:15, 1:39:17]: Uh to move. [1:39:17, 1:39:18]: To upgrade [1:39:19, 1:39:21]: So we have to just get it right. And so [1:39:22, 1:39:26]: And I and I guess Ms. Belly, you are on the uh development end. [1:39:26, 1:39:31]: Uh, Mrs. Johnson, you are on the staff end and I know you are about [1:39:31, 1:39:34]: The codes we are working on the UDC now. [1:39:34, 1:39:36]: Uh, we as a council. [1:39:36, 1:39:38]: We have to approve. [1:39:38, 1:39:54]: And so we're caught in a situation now. And see, we sh we shouldn't be. Uh it's good for us to have this, but at some point we this has to be straightened out. So when developers come and staff [1:39:54, 1:40:07]: We all communicate and we all know. So when we allow these um developments to come in, we should not be going through this. We should not be going through this. So at some point in time, [1:40:08, 1:40:10]: We have to get this right. [1:40:11, 1:40:14]: And and and if the code says one thing [1:40:14, 1:40:16]: We need to understand. [1:40:16, 1:40:21]: All parties need to know, the council need to know. We all need to know what the code really says. [1:40:22, 1:40:23]: So [1:40:23, 1:40:25]: And now here we are tonight. [1:40:26, 1:40:33]: Um not knowing whether we we should approve, do we need to approve, because we got conflict in and really. [1:40:33, 1:40:34]: Um [1:40:34, 1:40:36]: The interpretation of the code. [1:40:37, 1:40:41]: So Mrs. Johnson, I don't know if the language need to be [1:40:41, 1:40:44]: Uh change to make it very clear. [1:40:44, 1:40:48]: Um I I I'm I I really don't know the answer, but I basically [1:40:49, 1:40:56]: It needs to be clear so we can go ahead and move this city forward and to be able to offer. [1:40:56, 1:40:58]: Uh any new [1:40:58, 1:41:01]: Homeowners that are looking to come to stock grid. [1:41:01, 1:41:06]: And to be able to offer because I know if I was looking to purchase [1:41:06, 1:41:10]: I will be looking for all of these amenities, all of these. [1:41:10, 1:41:11]: Pooh. [1:41:11, 1:41:12]: Tennis court. [1:41:12, 1:41:13]: Travel [1:41:14, 1:41:16]: Um, you know, clubhouse. [1:41:16, 1:41:18]: That's what would attract me. [1:41:19, 1:41:21]: So I'm just saying we just need to get it right. [1:41:22, 1:41:26]: So we don't need the the back and forth and the argument. We just need to get it right. [1:41:27, 1:41:33]: So that's that's the challenge uh from the city park. We need to get it right. [1:41:34, 1:41:50]: Thank you, Mayor. No problem. Ms. Johnson, is there's a request. Can you actually the particular code we're referring to or part of the code, are you able to show that on a screen so we can all look at that? I believe that was something that Ms. Battle was asking about if you can show that so we can if it's possible to do that. [1:41:50, 1:41:54]: And on that, while you're doing that, if it's possible, why you're doing that, Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:41:56, 1:42:03]: Thank you, Mayor. I'm gonna let me just start off by saying um I do have some concerns about what I just heard. [1:42:03, 1:42:04]: And [1:42:05, 1:42:10]: I want to address them. I I I have some more additional questions I need to ask. [1:42:10, 1:42:11]: Um [1:42:11, 1:42:15]: Whether or not we've already signed a development agreement. [1:42:15, 1:42:22]: have the plans been approved for this particular project is my first question first two questions [1:42:22, 1:42:23]: Um [1:42:24, 1:42:25]: And then [1:42:26, 1:42:29]: I didn't really get clarity on [1:42:30, 1:42:38]: What how since the the language, if the language states in the code that they are to choose from the amenities. [1:42:38, 1:42:58]: Then how do we determine how many they have to choose from? What's what's the minimum amount of amenity amenities they have to have? What's the maximum amount of amenities do they have to have? And does that at the end of that code point of order wait a minute? And whether or not you're a point of order, right? Point of order. Stand by please. What's the point of order? [1:42:58, 1:43:05]: Mr. Uh, legal has legal has spoken on that particular issue. The legal act they spoke on that particular issue. [1:43:05, 1:43:20]: I'm asking she's giving the best the interpretation is being given no was counter by no legal. Let's let's bring legal back in. Mayor in order for me to make an educated decision on what's going on, I need [1:43:21, 1:43:27]: to hear direct answers, not roundabouts of oh well if council would have known. [1:43:27, 1:43:30]: Okay. I wanna know what exactly [1:43:31, 1:43:34]: Із за масиму и да мінімум ама. [1:43:35, 1:43:48]: of of amenities that a development of that size have to have per our code section and whether or not our code section says we as council upon the discretion of our approval of those amenities. [1:43:48, 1:43:53]: I need to know what our standards are for that before I make a vote. [1:43:53, 1:44:06]: Right. So back to Ms. Johnson. Are you still trying to find? Okay. Is that what okay, that's what I was looking forward to. All right. And you all see my screen still. Uh yes. Go ahead, share your screen, please. So we and walk us through this, please. [1:44:07, 1:44:27]: Okay, so um 12.02.039 is multifamily residential districts divided into three categories: apartments, RM1, fee simple townhomes, RM2, and condominiums are in three. Right. So we'll scroll down since this is RM3. I'm gonna scroll down to RM3. So a little bit less. [1:44:27, 1:44:28]: lengthy, so please bear with me. [1:44:32, 1:44:35]: That's RM1. That's the movies. [1:44:37, 1:44:40]: Isn't that the section? Cause it says in any of those three. [1:44:44, 1:44:47]: All right, this is arm two, and then we'll scroll down to arm three. [1:44:52, 1:44:53]: Okay. [1:44:59, 1:45:00]: Okay, here we go. [1:45:01, 1:45:07]: Um so this is arm three here, multifamily residential residence district condos. [1:45:08, 1:45:09]: Well two amenities. [1:45:12, 1:45:15]: Perpins Mata e Scar. [1:45:18, 1:45:19]: There you go. [1:45:19, 1:45:20]: Okay. [1:45:21, 1:45:22]: Here we are. [1:45:23, 1:45:31]: Uh required amenities except as otherwise provided herein. All developments under the section shall feature a clubhouse, including. [1:45:31, 1:45:43]: one uh minimum of 1,300 square feet, junior junior Olympic size pool and a children's play area. If subject to the requirements of subsection L increased density provisions. [1:45:43, 1:45:45]: Additional amenity shall be required. [1:45:46, 1:46:01]: Um the developer of the property shall satisfy this requirement prior to the completion of 50% of the development. What additional amenities are required? The developer of the property shall select from the following list of the additional required amenities. [1:46:01, 1:46:08]: or such other amenities as equal or greater value as the city council may approve. [1:46:08, 1:46:11]: They had to do the pool, they had to do the play area. [1:46:12, 1:46:14]: And the clubhouse. [1:46:15, 1:46:15]: Correct. [1:46:16, 1:46:22]: Wading pool, tennis course, walking trails. Um they did have additional density based on the verbiage. [1:46:23, 1:46:26]: Of the development agreement from my um interpretation. [1:46:27, 1:46:33]: And so this it just goes on as fair fairly similar throughout for arm one, arm two, and arm three. [1:46:34, 1:46:49]: So what we're saying is that's a list of things that this you're saying that the the developer can choose from to finish this aspect. Okay. Right. Which is which is why you know staff, we don't have an objection to as stated as to this request. [1:46:49, 1:47:00]: To me. And we picked waiting pools and the walking trail and the pocket parks. Those are the those are the things that you all asked us to include. And those are the things that we did include. [1:47:01, 1:47:03]: So the tennis courts was added. [1:47:04, 1:47:09]: No dis by Miss Johnson based on her interpretation. I'm not sure what led to [1:47:09, 1:47:17]: I'm sorry, I wasn't privy to the conversations that were had with city council about these amenities at all. I'm not sure. Um [1:47:18, 1:47:21]: But I did add it in and at that time at the council meeting. [1:47:21, 1:47:25]: then it will be discussed at that time. So all of this has been sent to the applicant. [1:47:26, 1:47:35]: prior to the council meeting. And it just was missed. We could have addressed this at that time. However, you know, here we are today trying to determine. [1:47:36, 1:47:39]: Um and if it's the will of the council, it's a determination of whether [1:47:39, 1:47:45]: this particular project for the size and where it is the topography. [1:47:45, 1:47:48]: Whether it needs to have these tennis courts or or it does not. [1:47:49, 1:48:09]: So is my sorry Mayor, Mayor? I'm sorry. I never got my questions answered. But you're what you're going to get answered just one second, please. I'm I'm going that way. Okay. So I in all actual in actuality, the the minimum amount is what's in the first paragraph prior to prior to getting to this that's not one point of order, Mayor. That's not what the legal said. Point of order. I we'll get the legal in a second, sir. [1:48:09, 1:48:29]: Can't stand by. So otherwise the minimum amount is what's in this first paragraph, it seems like. And then from A to whatever it goes, those seem to be additional things to select from, which give could give you the maximum amount, whatever that is. I don't think there's an actual number for max amount. It depends on what's available, what the land states and what you can put in there, I would imagine, and that aspect. That should be helpful. [1:48:29, 1:48:36]: I believe with Ms. Gantt, but I'm gonna go now, and now I said that, I'm gonna go back to Ms. Gantt. Now, Ms. Gantt, continue on, please. [1:48:37, 1:48:44]: Thank you, Mayor. I'm looking at the language in this code section and there's a it it's a it's May. [1:48:44, 1:48:58]: uh nothing is shall and there are options to choose from now they've already chosen their options um they submitted their plan for appro approval did they get approval [1:48:58, 1:49:16]: prior and then we they all of a sudden got an email from the city saying, hey, you also need to add in some tennis courts. I mean, my question is, what you know, I need to know what in what order did that take place. Number one. Number two, [1:49:16, 1:49:30]: The code doesn't say that they have to have tennis courts. When we first started this, I specifically asked Ms. Johnson, and no offense to you, Ms. Johnson, I understand, but I specifically asked, and we can run the tape, whether or not [1:49:32, 1:49:37]: tennis courts are a requirement and I was told they were. In fact they are not. [1:49:37, 1:49:38]: They are not. [1:49:40, 1:49:42]: And so, I want to make sure. [1:49:42, 1:49:58]: that we get I agree we need to get this right the first time. And if they've already have these amenities in place, then who are we to say, no, those amenities are not gonna work at this point in time if we had already agreed upon it. [1:49:58, 1:50:01]: So I need some type of legal interpretation. [1:50:02, 1:50:05]: Not oh well the count council decides to change their mind now. [1:50:07, 1:50:15]: All right. Uh Mr. Jeremy, you spoke earlier. How how can you add uh to this conversation and get this rectified here, sir? [1:50:16, 1:50:22]: Go ahead. Right. I mean I I guess I would just want to remind the council, as the council probably knows, the council is the ultimate decision maker. [1:50:23, 1:50:23]: And that [1:50:23, 1:50:26]: Аміднес є шос- [1:50:27, 1:50:29]: It says when additional amenities are required. [1:50:30, 1:50:35]: The developer of the property shall select from the following list of the additional required amenities. [1:50:36, 1:50:39]: О суч адремені з іquл отер валю. [1:50:39, 1:50:41]: as the council may approve. [1:50:42, 1:50:54]: So that last phrase, as the council city council may approve, gives the power to the city correctly. I don't think that the the develop respectfully, I don't think the developer is in charge. I think the city's in charge. [1:50:54, 1:50:58]: And I mean theoretically if the city wanted to do baseball fields [1:50:59, 1:51:01]: I agree with that. That's not what I'm saying. [1:51:02, 1:51:22]: I would like to respond because there's a section here below that says that we had to pick three additional amenities based on the number of units that we had, based on our density. And we picked three. We picked the waiting pool, we picked the walking trails, and we picked the parking parks because that's what was discussed. And so we picked those things. [1:51:22, 1:51:28]: The tennis courts would technically be four things. We were only required to add three. [1:51:28, 1:51:36]: But the tennis courts was added. So now that's four things. We weren't required to have four things. Ms. Battle, was it approved with those three things? [1:51:38, 1:51:46]: The approval that you all did was approved actually with the tennis courts because it was added in there, but it was never discussed. [1:51:46, 1:51:55]: Or even told to you all that I I've gone back and looked at the tape. I saw nothing that talked about the tennis courts being an addition, that that was pointed out to you all. [1:51:56, 1:51:56]: Okay. [1:51:57, 1:51:59]: This is my first time hearing about it being an issue. [1:52:00, 1:52:05]: Right. Ms. Johnson, did you send us an email in regards to the tennis courts? [1:52:10, 1:52:27]: I did not send an email to the council. I was not privy to the conversations with the council about this project prior to its coming to the council. However, I did send an email to uh Ms. Battle because what I wanted to do, she sent us a executable copy that she wanted to have submitted. [1:52:27, 1:52:35]: There were no highlights to changes whatsoever. So I went line by line in that document to make sure, like, okay, what what are we missing? [1:52:35, 1:52:38]: Is there any information that's not there? So I said, let me highlight in red. [1:52:39, 1:52:44]: all of the things that we're adding. I sent this document to the applicant. [1:52:44, 1:52:57]: and Mr. Steve Moore so they could review it and tell us, hey, we want to do this, we don't want to do this, can we change this? Can we change that? This was four, five, six days prior to the council meeting for the purpose of [1:52:57, 1:53:00]: us having this discussion on the staff level. [1:53:00, 1:53:04]: before it came to the city council. So the council could approve and we [1:53:05, 1:53:06]: They start building. [1:53:07, 1:53:09]: So uh does that answer your question? [1:53:11, 1:53:14]: Does I appreciate you responding and so [1:53:14, 1:53:17]: W when it comes to these amenities. [1:53:18, 1:53:21]: And having three that were already chosen. [1:53:23, 1:53:27]: that we were aware of because this tennis course is just coming up to me. [1:53:27, 1:53:29]: Today, tonight. [1:53:30, 1:53:31]: So I'm asking you. [1:53:32, 1:53:35]: I'm asking in in regards to that. [1:53:35, 1:53:39]: How do we determine how many amenities need to be? [1:53:40, 1:53:41]: At a particular development. [1:53:42, 1:53:43]: How do we determine that? [1:53:46, 1:53:55]: Well, the only thing in the code that says that there's an increased density provision. Now, the number, of course, the code keeps it wide open for the council to determine. [1:53:55, 1:54:00]: Whether needs to be equal or greater than what is required of the code. [1:54:02, 1:54:03]: Okay, thank you. [1:54:04, 1:54:17]: Okay. Okay. Um Quentin, Mr. Washington, you had your hand up here. Go right here, please. Uh Mr. Mayor, I would like to see if we can move this conversation along. And I guess the two ways we can do it is either we can have [1:54:18, 1:54:30]: Further discussions with Ms. Battle outside of the council meeting about this, or if the council wants to take a vote about it because ultimately it's council decision as to whether or not they want tennis courts or they don't want. [1:54:31, 1:54:36]: then they can make that they can make that decision. But ultimately I think it I think the [1:54:37, 1:54:45]: I think the developer and Miss Al is representing them very ably. Um, I would let I would let that be her call if she wants to. [1:54:45, 1:54:52]: talk with us some more about this because she's seen a bunch of questions from council or she wants to just have a vote and and let that be her call. [1:54:53, 1:54:57]: Thank you for that, sir. Before we move on though, or t even w look at taking a vote. [1:54:57, 1:55:00]: uh someone hasn't spoken yet. Miss Barber, what are your thoughts? [1:55:01, 1:55:01]: Okay. [1:55:02, 1:55:05]: Thank you, Mayor, for acknowledging me. [1:55:05, 1:55:06]: So [1:55:07, 1:55:11]: In reading this code, I understand that it only requires three. [1:55:11, 1:55:11]: Um [1:55:13, 1:55:17]: I'm thinking in terms of where this development will be constructed. [1:55:18, 1:55:21]: Um there's tennis courts right across the street. [1:55:21, 1:55:22]: At the park, isn't there? [1:55:23, 1:55:23]: Mm-hmm. [1:55:24, 1:55:28]: There is some down the street. Right. Down it's it's not right across, but it's down the street, yes. [1:55:28, 1:55:30]: Down the street. Okay. Um [1:55:34, 1:55:38]: Анасті, ам окей видися, акин надестан хали конфуз. [1:55:38, 1:55:40]: comes about, I'm okay with [1:55:41, 1:55:42]: Accepting [1:55:42, 1:55:42]: And [1:55:42, 1:55:46]: modification to the development agreement. That's all. [1:55:47, 1:55:57]: All right. So let's do this. On that note, is there is there a motion? Is there is there a motion to propose uh this this agree with this uh adjustment for the development agreement? [1:55:59, 1:56:02]: Is there a point? Oh wait so move for Blount. Is there a second? [1:56:04, 1:56:04]: Is there a second? [1:56:05, 1:56:07]: Mayor, I need clarification. [1:56:08, 1:56:10]: Well it well okay before is there a second? [1:56:12, 1:56:32]: Okay, what kind of clarification do you need, Mayor? Are we making a modification to say that we are okay with the three that they named originally and not the tennis court? Or are we saying modify to add a tennis court? Which one are we saying? Good good. Mr. Blount, you made a motion. Clarify your motion, please. No, no, I I was second in the motion when when Councilwoman Barber said that she was okay. [1:56:32, 1:56:39]: with it i i i i thought that was a part of a motion i just second well let me let me double check miss miss barber did you make the motion [1:56:39, 1:56:41]: Is that what you made? Or are you just making a comment? [1:56:43, 1:56:44]: No, sorry, I didn't. [1:56:45, 1:56:52]: You didn't make the motion. Okay. I need a motion, folks, to to to outline this development agreement what we're going to approve or disapprove. Is there a motion? [1:56:53, 1:56:53]: So move. [1:56:54, 1:56:59]: And okay, you need clarification on that on that, sir. Clarification on what on what do you mean by that? [1:56:59, 1:57:04]: Mm so moved on a motion, as Councilwoman Barr just said, to uh [1:57:04, 1:57:13]: A lot of modification. I'm I'm assuming that a modification is that they don't have to have tennis courts because in our code and what they've done show that they don't have to have tennis course. [1:57:14, 1:57:18]: All right, that's the motion that you're you're making a motion in that aspect. Is there a second to that motion? [1:57:19, 1:57:20]: A second. [1:57:21, 1:57:23]: Ms. Gantt Sexton's that we I guarantee we have plenty of conversation. [1:57:24, 1:57:25]: So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:57:27, 1:57:33]: One, two. I'm not able to see the vote. Okay, you got Blount says yes, Barber says yes, Gantt says yes, the other two gentlemen. [1:57:35, 1:57:37]: Mr. Mr. Thomas. [1:57:37, 1:57:38]: Are you four again? [1:57:38, 1:57:54]: Well, I I I favor tennis court, so I I guess I'm on the other side of that. Okay, so I got uh Mr. Alexander, you say no. I suppose it was three, two. The motion passed. Okay. Thank you, Miss Battle. Appreciate your time and effort. We'll move on. Thank you very much. All right. [1:57:55, 1:58:01]: uh council consideration approve the updated youth council committee bylaws miss erica harvey please [1:58:07, 1:58:08]: Hmm. [1:58:10, 1:58:11]: Do you guys hear me? [1:58:11, 1:58:15]: Yeah, go ahead now. Okay. Good afternoon, Mayor and Council and City Staff. [1:58:16, 1:58:23]: Um, I can prefer you tonight for the approval for the updating of the Stockbridge Youth Council and the Stockbridge advisory uh bylaws. [1:58:23, 1:58:38]: The changes that were made were to clearly document policies, procedures, and to strengthen the programs to provide attendance policies and expectations for the members and the participants of the youth council and the advis uh advisory committee. [1:58:38, 1:58:52]: Um, I assume you guys had the opportunity to look over the bylaws. And so I'm just here to answer any questions that you guys may have as it pertains to um the changes that were made or the additions or changes that were made. [1:58:55, 1:59:02]: Any questions for Ms. Harvey about the the actual youth council bylaws for that and the leadership at all? [1:59:03, 1:59:05]: Mayor? Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [1:59:06, 1:59:18]: I don't have any questions, but I wanted to make a motion to approve the bylaws. Okay, that's right. All right. Second was Mr. Let you Mr. Blount second that? Yes, sir. Okay, good. Any further discussion? [1:59:18, 1:59:20]: If not all okay discussion. [1:59:20, 1:59:24]: No oh if not all no discussion. All in favor, please indicate. [1:59:24, 1:59:27]: Aye. Uh, three, four, Mr. Thomas. [1:59:28, 1:59:48]: Okay, good deals. Unanimous decision. Thank you, Ms. Harvey. Appreciate it. You're welcome. Um, okay, folks, I got my comment uh comment time here. Well, I want to clarify something in reference to the public comments uh earlier today. I would say Mr. Knighton that uh we'll make we'll gather up all the information, respond to those public comments, do that individual. [1:59:48, 2:00:08]: individuals and also make some type of adjustments because some of those comments were not accurate. We need to make some clarification, put it on the website with you and the PIO to make sure that they're clarified in some of those things and get that out there if you don't mind, sir. And as opposed to taking time to try to answer those right now in this aspect. So we'll make public will make a chance to to get that out there and clarify those things. [2:00:08, 2:00:28]: With that actual individual as well as for you on the general public. Um, this uh actually this is the 13th, so otherwise two days ago, as you well know, uh the 20th year anniversary of the 9-11 attack on our country. And so we'll never forget that. And obviously, we had an outstanding uh remembrance ceremony uh for the honor. [2:00:27, 2:00:47]: Honor the 20-year anniversary of that right is right here at Stockbridge at right in front of City Hall uh Saturday morning. Uh now obviously all of you uh would reflect back on what you were doing, how you felt at the time that this all occurred in this aspect. So I'm not gonna go through uh what I what I felt, but I know you all had certain ideas and sit and you felt [2:00:47, 2:00:54]: certain ways about this about a terrorist attack but i want to read a couple of things to you though in this aspect just in case [2:00:54, 2:00:59]: That terrorist attack on our country caused uh roughly two thousand nine hundred and seventy seven people killed. [2:01:00, 2:01:13]: And 19 of those folks were actually hijackers that committed murder and suicide. 6,000 plus people were injured. And it's continuing to count with the afterfact of these attacks on 20 years ago in reference to health issues. [2:01:13, 2:01:17]: 265 people were that were killed, that were on the four planes combined. [2:01:18, 2:01:38]: Roughly uh 2,606 people were killed at the at the World Trade Center and those two towers falling uh to the ground. 125 military and civilian personnel were killed at the Pentagon. And actually, it's even though this happened on our soil, there are more than 90 countries that were affected. So it's really a terrorist attack on these other countries as well. And I'm not gonna read the countries. [2:01:38, 2:01:58]: Countries, of course, of course, but otherwise, a multitude of countries and personnel from other countries died in this process. And then what you had that were heroes for the day were plenty of people, heroes for the day, not only in New York, but across the nation, and especially those heroes on the plane that crashed in in Pennsylvania in Pennsylvania field. But also that the New York finest, the police department. [2:01:58, 2:02:14]: Department, Fire Department, the Port Authority, and EMS, EET EMTs, I'm sorry, and paramedics, those heroes that died and also gave try to save lives in this process, uh perished in this particular horror horrific attack. So uh I think the city will continue to. [2:02:14, 2:02:28]: have our remembrance ceremony, I I would I would say, and it uh and it was is something that we we would as long as we live, we will never forget this this horrific crime and terrorist attack on our our country whatsoever. Um [2:02:28, 2:02:44]: Also want to let you know that COVID-19 and Delta Varin is still with us, folks. You know, earlier today you got a report from the Piedmont Henry Hospital that there are 151 uh COVID-19 patients in the hospital right now. [2:02:45, 2:03:00]: And as of this morning, 82 of those individuals are in ICU, this intensive care units, and and plenty of those folks are on ventilators. Now there is a little good news story in some of this, believe it or not, and that is that there's there's a before I mentioned to you about a shortage of oxygen. [2:03:00, 2:03:20]: Well right now Piedmont Henry seems to be maintaining that with the option needed for these folks to keep them alive in this aspect. So that's that's that's that's good news in that aspect. But once again, the the sad news, the bad news is the folks that are that are in the hospital in the ICU are people that are not vaccinated, typically about 95% of them. So what the what the logical combination [2:03:20, 2:03:31]: sense thing is to get vaccinated in this aspect. That'd be helpful in this uh in this case. Matter of fact, for the last two weeks in Henry County, there have been 2,118 new cases of COVID-19 in the last two weeks. [2:03:31, 2:03:51]: All right. That's not the worst number, but it is a bad enough number in this aspect. So vaccinations are key, folks. You can easily do that with the public health department. You can you can go get a uh COVID-19 Delta Varium vaccination at plenty, uh plenty of different drug stores and uh in the in the in the Henry County area and Stockbridge area itself. You can go to uh once again a public health department. [2:03:51, 2:04:11]: do that and make an appointment at 888-847-4262. All right. And uh you also get get tested for COVID-19 at the Red Hawk uh facility. You can get tested right there at uh Henry Parkway and uh you can do that as well. And uh they are actually available um anywhere from 9 a.m [2:04:11, 2:04:31]: To 3 p.m. uh every day of the week. And once again, that's Red Hawk Field at 143 Henry Parkway. It's very important that we're not going to eradicate this and stomp this thing out until folks get more get vaccinated and take care of themselves. And obviously, uh we need to take care of our children because obviously um only uh the Pfizer is a [2:04:31, 2:04:51]: Is available for 12 and older older uh kids. And then uh Mederma and the Johnson and Johnson, you have to be 18 or older. And now we're looking for other additional um verifications or or um FDA um uh qualifications to get things approved for other vaccinations, of course, in this aspect for the younger. [2:04:51, 2:05:11]: Age and that's coming soon in this aspect as well. But the point of it is, folks, you got to be careful. Wear the mask, watch your six feet distance, of course, wash your hands, use hand sanitizer, and get a vaccination. All right, another thing coming up, we talked about our precincts earlier this evening. And so that's November 2nd. We'll we'll get a chance to devote. [2:05:11, 2:05:12]: Right. [2:05:12, 2:05:32]: Municipal elections as well as T Sploss. T S PLOS, folks, we have to pass our T sploss on November 2nd. It's a five-year generated T S PLOS. And we passed that. That generates about$245,$250 million for an entire county. The city of Stockbridge would get roughly$30.5 million. [2:05:32, 2:05:51]: dollars if that passes on November 2nd we need you to do that and you have to do that at the county election um uh poll and uh booth or you can do it the early voting at Merrill Manor's conference center which starts on October 11th for early voting so part of the the city t splots deals with rock quarry widening [2:05:51, 2:06:11]: All right. From 138 to Hospital Road Drive there to uh hospital drive and Hudson Bridge Road all the way down down at one to 138. All right. And then of course we got several different uh projects within the pro uh within the city of Stockbridge itself, uh such as uh let me get to that list here, curb and gutter. [2:06:11, 2:06:31]: You're talking about additional uh uh street widening. Uh you're talking about Davis Parkway, Tie Street area for sidewalks, Davis Road, Curb and Gutter sidewalks, you know, extension of our Rees Creek Trail in a sense as well, Bush Creek, uh 1.5 miles needed there to expand that as well. Um, all kinds of [2:06:31, 2:06:51]: Expansion dealing with the our trail network along in the along Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail, Country Club Drive, traffic and safety improvements needed for also in Burke Street, Love Street sidewalks and pedestrian improvements, Wall Steven Road Trail, which is roughly 1.75 miles. All those things are needed, folks, for the city of Stockbridge. We will not be able [2:06:51, 2:07:10]: To have those increases and those improvements to the roads unless T-SPLOST is passed. If it doesn't pass, we will continue to have uh uh uh gridlock on the roads, we'll continue to not have sidewalks or trails, and it'd be very difficult to get improvements. So it's something that we must do in this note. All right, so please. [2:07:11, 2:07:31]: When you go to the polling booth on November 2nd, say yes to T Splas. Early vote October 11th, say yes to T Splas, please. On that note, let's talk about some additional announcements. Um uh city council uh retreat. Uh we have a budget retreat starting on Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday this week. And it'd be by way of Zoom. So public, you can listen in on [2:07:30, 2:07:50]: That if you want, and we'll be we'll talking about the getting ready for the 2022 budget year. Youth Council Advisory Meeting is 6:30 on the third Tuesday of each month. And the next time they have a meeting will be September 21st. The downtown development authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, also on the 21st. [2:07:50, 2:08:10]: The Planning Commission meeting is 6:30 by way of Zoom, fourth Thursday of each month on the 23rd of September. Our next City Council work session is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, last Tuesday of each month, and it's going to be the 28th of September. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. By way of Zoom, it'd be October 8th. [2:08:10, 2:08:21]: Our next city council meeting is uh 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, second Monday of each month, October 11th. The youth council meeting is 5:30 by way of Zoom, second Wednesday of each month, which would be October 12th. [2:08:22, 2:08:42]: And uh please join uh councilwoman uh barber uh for the uh at the Merrill Man's Conference Center for free Zuma fitness classes in the park uh every Saturday between uh every Saturday up until September through September 25th, 8 a.m. a Clark Park. You go there and get your Zoom on, get you some exercise. [2:08:42, 2:09:02]: And and and uh in this aspect. I'm pretty sure she'll enjoy everybody coming and joining her there. And uh also on the on the 20th of uh September, you got meet the mayor from 10 a.m. to uh 12 noon. I'll be able to talk with you about any questions and concerns you may have. And uh you have to set your appointment by calling 777-389-72. [2:09:02, 2:09:15]: 7900 and um and talk with Mrs. Zenobia and uh she'll set up an appointment uh for you to to meet me and have that conversation on September 20th. And of course, our Start Bridge Amphitheater Grand Opening featuring [2:09:15, 2:09:34]: uh gladest night and patty labelle saturday september 25th 7 p.m the uh well actually what it is is the concert is 8 p.m the the um if we probably get in a little earlier than seven we'll we'll we'll let you know what the actual time is because what we're planning to do right before that concert we're looking to have uh official ribbon cutting [2:09:34, 2:09:54]: So we have to let you in a little sooner than that. But the point of it is it's a great activity. It's going to be off the chain. We have a great time. You've got two wonderful uh icons in the music industry that are just going to entertain us all. I believe there's still some tickets on sale. Uh on Friday there were 60 left. And so I don't know what the what the count is today. Uh Mr. [2:09:54, 2:09:56]: tonight savings had they're all gone Mr Night. [2:09:56, 2:10:10]: They're all gone. As of about four o'clock this afternoon, I've been told that it's a sellout. It's sellout is is done. And by the way, it's only 3,200 folks, not 4,200 or 4,000 or 5,000. 3,200 folks. 3,200 folks. Okay. But we're going to be safe. [2:10:11, 2:10:23]: You gotta wear a mask, got to verify that you had a vaccination or and or show that you've had a COVID uh 19 uh test that is negative within 24 hours, excuse me, within 48 hours of the actual constant cell. [2:10:24, 2:10:24]: So [2:10:24, 2:10:28]: No need to mention uh the the the the site to go buy tickets if they're sold out. [2:10:28, 2:10:29]: It's a great thing. [2:10:30, 2:10:41]: All right. On that note, council, I'm done with my particular analysis right now, but we do need to go into Zechar session and uh Zechler session, please. I need a motion to go in a second session. [2:10:42, 2:10:45]: for litigation personnel and um [2:10:47, 2:10:48]: What else? [2:10:53, 2:10:56]: And real estate. Can I have a motion to go to the second session, please? [2:10:59, 2:11:01]: No motion to the second session? [2:11:02, 2:11:03]: Mm. Okay. [2:11:04, 2:11:06]: All right. So if there's no motion going to second session. [2:11:08, 2:11:16]: Then I guess uh no motion, no second. Well, in that name nature then unfortunately I'd say, well, okay, need a motion to end our council meeting then. [2:11:18, 2:11:20]: What does that mean? Your hands up means. [2:11:21, 2:11:33]: Okay, Mr. Blount, you've raised your hand to say that you want a motion. So moved to leave. To leave. Okay, Mr. Blount, to leave. Ms. Councilman Gantt seconds that motion. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [2:11:34, 2:11:38]: All right. Good night, everybody. Have a good life. See you soon. God bless you all.
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    --- title: August 31 2021 Work Session Meeting date: 2021-08-31 source: 2021-08-31_August_31_2021_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:10, 0:00:13]: Ladies and gentlemen, I just want to let you know that we are now recording the meeting. [0:02:14, 0:02:18]: Ladies and gentlemen, let you know that we're now live on Facebook as well. [0:03:04, 0:03:05]: How are you doing, Madam Clerk? [0:03:07, 0:03:08]: Good evening, everyone. [0:03:09, 0:03:09]: Amen. [0:03:58, 0:04:00]: Evening Mayor Pro Tem. How you doing? [0:04:02, 0:04:03]: How are you doing, sir? [0:04:04, 0:04:07]: All right. Mr. Knighton's on board. All right. Good to see you, sir. [0:04:09, 0:04:10]: Hello everyone. [0:04:11, 0:04:12]: Okay. [0:04:13, 0:04:15]: Okay, so [0:04:18, 0:04:19]: We have [0:04:35, 0:04:35]: Mm-hmm. [0:05:02, 0:05:05]: How are you doing, Mr. Washington? Good evening to you. [0:05:05, 0:05:06]: Duma, how are you sir? [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: Fine, just fine. [0:05:08, 0:05:10]: Trying to use the new this is uh [0:05:10, 0:05:15]: New link we're trying to use from uh we got a s we might have a stock width email that's working. [0:05:16, 0:05:18]: We'll see. [0:05:18, 0:05:23]: If we're working with that. So Jeremy may come in on this one too. So we we're trying to work on that now. [0:05:24, 0:05:24]: All right. [0:05:26, 0:05:38]: Well, let's see here. Actually we do have a quorum and our and so but we're missing one council member, but we do have a quorum. Uh so we'll give it about another minute. [0:05:45, 0:05:46]: Evening, Mr. Ash. [0:05:59, 0:06:04]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. I have six o'clock. We're gonna get this uh meeting started. So I'd like to call the [0:06:05, 0:06:09]: Tuesday, August 31st, Council Work Session to Order. [0:06:10, 0:06:16]: And we do have a quorum quorum in this aspect. And I'd like to ask Councilman Thomas if he'd give the invocation, please. [0:06:17, 0:06:17]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:06:19, 0:06:20]: Let us pray. [0:06:22, 0:06:23]: O Heavenly Father. [0:06:24, 0:06:28]: We thank you for the breath of life. [0:06:28, 0:06:29]: On this day. [0:06:31, 0:06:32]: And the many blessings [0:06:33, 0:06:34]: You bestow upon us. [0:06:35, 0:06:36]: Each and every day. [0:06:38, 0:06:42]: Father, we come to you on this day with heavy hearts. [0:06:42, 0:06:45]: Because of what we see. [0:06:45, 0:06:47]: And what we don't understand. [0:06:48, 0:06:52]: Father, we ask that you have mercy on this earth. [0:06:53, 0:06:55]: Heal us from [0:06:55, 0:06:56]: Crisis [0:06:56, 0:06:58]: After crisis. [0:06:58, 0:06:59]: Disasters. [0:07:00, 0:07:01]: Strife. [0:07:01, 0:07:03]: divisiven [0:07:03, 0:07:04]: Crying. [0:07:04, 0:07:05]: Gun violence. [0:07:06, 0:07:07]: And on and on. [0:07:08, 0:07:11]: We may not understand, but Father. [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: We will trust in the Lord. [0:07:15, 0:07:17]: And we're not lean. [0:07:17, 0:07:19]: On our own understanding. [0:07:21, 0:07:23]: For we will not be afraid. [0:07:24, 0:07:27]: For the Lord God is our strength. [0:07:27, 0:07:29]: And salvation. [0:07:30, 0:07:32]: Father, we ask that you bless and protect [0:07:33, 0:07:34]: Our armed forces. [0:07:35, 0:07:45]: All of our first respondents to include health care providers, 911 operators, paramedics, EMTs, firefighters. [0:07:45, 0:07:48]: And all law enforcement officers. [0:07:49, 0:07:52]: We also know that many families. [0:07:52, 0:07:54]: A grieving on this day. [0:07:56, 0:07:58]: And are in pain. [0:07:59, 0:08:01]: We ask that you comfort. [0:08:01, 0:08:02]: Their pain. [0:08:04, 0:08:06]: And calm their fears. [0:08:06, 0:08:08]: And surround them with your peace. [0:08:09, 0:08:15]: We ask that you lift up all those who are facing various illnesses. [0:08:15, 0:08:18]: Give them hope and courage they need today. [0:08:19, 0:08:20]: And every day. [0:08:21, 0:08:25]: May the Holy Spirit guide and strengthen this counsel. [0:08:25, 0:08:31]: to make sound decisions that benefit all citizens of Stockbridge. [0:08:32, 0:08:37]: Mary Council and everyone that's joining us on this call, I'd like for you to join me. [0:08:38, 0:08:39]: In the Lord's Prayer. [0:08:40, 0:08:41]: All right. [0:08:41, 0:08:42]: Our father [0:08:43, 0:08:45]: who art in heaven. [0:08:46, 0:08:48]: Hallow be thy name. [0:08:49, 0:08:50]: Thy kingdom come. [0:08:51, 0:08:53]: That will be done on earth. [0:08:54, 0:08:55]: As we are in heaven. [0:08:56, 0:08:59]: Give us this day our daily bread. [0:09:00, 0:09:02]: And forgive us our trespasses. [0:09:03, 0:09:06]: as we forgive those who trespasses against us. [0:09:08, 0:09:10]: Lead us not into temptation. [0:09:11, 0:09:12]: But deliver us from evil. [0:09:13, 0:09:14]: For thine is the kingdom. [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: The power [0:09:17, 0:09:18]: And the globe. [0:09:19, 0:09:19]: Wherever. [0:09:20, 0:09:20]: Any album. [0:09:21, 0:09:22]: Amen. [0:09:24, 0:09:29]: Thank you for that. Appreciate it, sir. Uh could we please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? [0:09:33, 0:09:45]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation undergone, liberty and justice for all. [0:09:45, 0:09:46]: Mm-hmm. [0:09:47, 0:09:49]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:09:50, 0:09:51]: Four. [0:09:52, 0:09:52]: Project. [0:09:53, 0:09:54]: May approach him, Alexander. [0:09:55, 0:09:56]: President. [0:09:56, 0:09:58]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:09:58, 0:09:59]: President. [0:09:59, 0:10:00]: Councilman Blount. [0:10:01, 0:10:02]: Present. [0:10:03, 0:10:04]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:10:05, 0:10:05]: Present. [0:10:06, 0:10:07]: Councilman Thomas. [0:10:07, 0:10:08]: Present. [0:10:08, 0:10:10]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:10:10, 0:10:11]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. [0:10:12, 0:10:13]: Fantastic. [0:10:13, 0:10:15]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:10:18, 0:10:19]: Don't move it. [0:10:20, 0:10:26]: Okay, so moved by Councilwoman Barber. Is there a second? Ms. Gantt second that. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:10:28, 0:10:30]: Okay, unanimous decision, appreciate that. [0:10:30, 0:10:45]: And also, council, you have before you adoption of the minutes for the following meetings. We had a special call meeting on July 6th that dealt with T S PLOS. Then we had a council meeting on July 12th, and then also a council work session on the 27th. [0:10:45, 0:10:54]: So if there are any adjustments on please let the count uh the clerk know that and we'll be able to approve these at our these particular minutes at our next uh regular council meeting. [0:10:55, 0:10:58]: On that note, uh Madam Clerk, any public comments at all? [0:10:59, 0:11:02]: Mayor, yes, we do have three public comments this evening. [0:11:02, 0:11:03]: Okay. [0:11:05, 0:11:08]: First public comment is from Peyton Harris. [0:11:08, 0:11:10]: one hundred two landover drive. [0:11:11, 0:11:14]: And the comments are regarding the noise. [0:11:14, 0:11:15]: Ordinance. [0:11:15, 0:11:20]: Without a proficient sound barrier between the new amphitheater and the local residents. [0:11:21, 0:11:25]: The noise ordinance should be restricted to t eleven PM on weekends. [0:11:26, 0:11:28]: We have to have respect. [0:11:28, 0:11:31]: For our residents that are within close proximity of the amphitheater. [0:11:32, 0:11:35]: Because small trees are not sound barriers. [0:11:35, 0:11:38]: Even outside of the amphitheater, eleven PM. [0:11:38, 0:11:41]: Is a respectful time to shut down the loud [0:11:41, 0:11:42]: Music and noises. [0:11:43, 0:11:44]: So the young children and then [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: the elderly can rest undisturbed. [0:11:49, 0:11:56]: All right. On that note, we'll be dealing with that particular subject this evening anyway. So that's on the agenda. So we'll cover that. Go right here, please. [0:11:57, 0:12:02]: The next comment is from Mr. Charles Marshall, 140 Somerset Hills, McDonough, Georgia. [0:12:03, 0:12:04]: Sugar Mary. [0:12:04, 0:12:09]: Council members, the city of Stockbridge is the largest city within Henry County and it continues to grow. [0:12:10, 0:12:16]: You and the city council members have made great strides in bringing our city up and above its previous standards. [0:12:16, 0:12:21]: And hopes are that your progress continues to go unimpeded. [0:12:22, 0:12:24]: With crime being on the rise in many parts of the state. [0:12:25, 0:12:28]: The city of Stockbridge could very well fall victim to this same trend. [0:12:29, 0:12:32]: With the city of Stockbridge not having its own police force. [0:12:33, 0:12:38]: It is probable that both violent and nonviolent crime rates will within the city will increase. [0:12:39, 0:12:48]: The presence of a local police force can not only react more quickly to a crime incident, but may be a deterrent to even potential crimes. [0:12:48, 0:12:50]: The Henry County Coalition Committee [0:12:50, 0:12:54]: as members in both the city and the county. [0:12:54, 0:12:59]: And we, like all residents within the local community, want to feel safe. [0:13:00, 0:13:02]: If Stockbridge were to have its own police force. [0:13:02, 0:13:10]: It could relieve some of the demands of the Henry County Police Department, making it more available for those of us in the county. [0:13:11, 0:13:16]: Many of us that live in the county also live adjacent to the Stock Reed city limits. [0:13:16, 0:13:20]: The presence of a separate Stockbridge Police Department. [0:13:20, 0:13:26]: Could only add as another deterrent to potential crime, even if it occurs outside. [0:13:26, 0:13:28]: Of the city limits of Stockbridge. [0:13:28, 0:13:30]: We would hope that the city moves forward. [0:13:31, 0:13:36]: with establishing a police department and weigh the benefits of extra security for the city. [0:13:36, 0:13:37]: It's residents. [0:13:37, 0:13:39]: And its county neighbors. [0:13:39, 0:13:40]: Against [0:13:40, 0:13:41]: The Rise in Crime. [0:13:42, 0:13:47]: We know that you will do your due diligence in analyzing the cost with a feasibility study. [0:13:48, 0:13:52]: It is our hope that your study will support a decision to create a separate police department. [0:13:53, 0:13:54]: For the city of Stockbridge. [0:13:55, 0:13:59]: Respectfully Charles Marshall, President of the Henry County Coalition Committee. [0:14:00, 0:14:00]: Yeah. [0:14:02, 0:14:06]: And the last comment is from Sunny Rendezzo, Bryant Street. [0:14:08, 0:14:14]: Noise ordinance, please provide sound mitigation for the neighborhoods surrounding the amphitheater. [0:14:15, 0:14:19]: The test concert was heard past Flippin' Road. [0:14:20, 0:14:21]: The Hertz should be regulated. [0:14:22, 0:14:24]: It probably sounds fine at the venue. [0:14:25, 0:14:28]: But they forget to test it for the taxpayers and citizens. [0:14:29, 0:14:32]: It shakes and thumps our homes unless this can be done. [0:14:32, 0:14:37]: Please do not change the concert times to make it even later than ten o'clock. [0:14:38, 0:14:40]: There are eighty-five and ninety year old people here. [0:14:41, 0:14:46]: Kids who go to bed much earlier than ten PM, most likely people with health problems. [0:14:46, 0:14:50]: You also say you are here for the community. I'm sure most [0:14:50, 0:14:54]: People would love to hear the music and not just endure it. [0:14:54, 0:14:56]: It's tone. [0:14:56, 0:14:57]: To me. [0:15:00, 0:15:01]: Prove that you do. [0:15:02, 0:15:04]: Truly care about us. [0:15:04, 0:15:06]: Give us sound mitigation, please. [0:15:07, 0:15:12]: I would like to state for the record that I am not in favor of paying a brand new city property tax. [0:15:12, 0:15:15]: To prop up a new Stockbridge City Police Department. [0:15:16, 0:15:19]: The cost, especially when the cost overruns. [0:15:19, 0:15:22]: On the amphitheater are six million and still counting. [0:15:23, 0:15:28]: It is completely unacceptable to put forth a new tax after the unprecedented spending. [0:15:29, 0:15:31]: Of the last past nineteen months. [0:15:31, 0:15:34]: While we have been in crisis and still are, in my opinion. [0:15:35, 0:15:38]: I along with other citizens vote no to a police department. [0:15:38, 0:15:40]: And no to a new text. [0:15:40, 0:15:40]: Thank you. [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: There are no further comments, Mayor. [0:15:42, 0:15:44]: Okay, thank you. Appreciate that. [0:15:45, 0:15:58]: And counsel for for you as well. Our attorney, Bell and Wat, Mr. Washington sent out some information about involving the limiting limiting debate. So let me just go through this real quickly and see what we can do to adhere to this. [0:15:58, 0:16:06]: Each member has up to three minutes of speaking time on a particular subject with additional one minute time, speaking time for rebuttals. [0:16:06, 0:16:26]: Once discussion begins on the floor, each speaker will have three minutes to make their argument with speakers who have not made their initial argument on the topic, having speaking priority over those who have. The minimum time for members should be allowed to speak on any particular issue is four minutes. And this is an attempt to move the meetings along and [0:16:26, 0:16:39]: keep decorum uh with the city of Stockbridge estimate uh instituted on speaking rules priority policy excuse me that's part of the governing documents and the timekeeper for this would be our clerk. [0:16:40, 0:16:45]: Okay, so let's see what we can do to if we can adhere to this tonight and our uh meetings in the future. [0:16:46, 0:16:57]: On that note, the presentation is actually gonna be being made by Mr. Don Ash, Emergency Preparedness, visible to Henry County Emergency Management. Mr. Ash, sir, please. [0:16:57, 0:17:09]: Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Mayor and Council. Um, thank you for the opportunity. I think every year about this time we make a in-person appearance, but with COVID, um it we have shifted our direction. [0:17:10, 0:17:23]: But I did just want to stop by and share with the city that uh as always, the month of September is emergency preparedness month, um, we will be giving out information and working with this new normal that we're in. But wanted to remind the citizens. [0:17:23, 0:17:39]: Most importantly, um Hurricane Ida, even that's what we're dealing with right now, heavy rains in our area. Um it's important for our communities to make a plan. That's what the first week focuses on. The second week focuses on build emergency preparedness kit for you and your home. [0:17:40, 0:17:59]: Week three will focus on low cost and no-cost preparedness, things you can teach you and your family to do at little to no cost to prepare for emergencies. And finally, we we want to work and work with our youth. Our youth are the best tool for us to teach our parents in emergency preparedness. So as we work through this month, we'll be working to [0:18:00, 0:18:18]: educate and train and do a lot of social media. I'll be sending some stuff to your social media team to push out to our community. Most importantly, dealing with COVID and all the other different things we've dealt with over the last 20 plus months have showed us that it's important to have a plan to deal with each and every situation. [0:18:19, 0:18:20]: Excuse me. Um [0:18:21, 0:18:24]: Uh while I was here, I also wanted to take an opportunity to remind you guys. [0:18:24, 0:18:32]: That we are coming into the peak and wrapping up the peak of our hurricane season, as we were fortunate not to have a huge impact from. [0:18:32, 0:18:35]: Hurricane Ida trop tropical storm depression now. [0:18:36, 0:18:52]: Lastly, I wanted to tell you that our emergency management team is so grateful to the support for all our community as we continue to maneuver through this COVID and this variant of COVID. I'm very appreciative of the work and the collaboration and the work we've been able to do with all our city and county partners as well. [0:18:53, 0:18:56]: Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you guys. I'll take any questions you may have for me at this time. [0:18:59, 0:19:04]: Question for Mr. Ash Counsel. Ms. Barber, I think you saw your hand there. Go right up, please. [0:19:05, 0:19:08]: Um just for public knowledge, if Mr. Ash can [0:19:08, 0:19:12]: Um, share with us some of the locations where people may go and get vaccinated. [0:19:13, 0:19:14]: Is that okay? [0:19:14, 0:19:34]: Sure, absolutely. So um predominantly we're doing um vaccine sites now at the public health department. I've had conversations recently with our public health department, and we have reached with our district partners to expand um the role of vaccines. We know the important role vaccines play in our community. So you'll see us rolling additional sites out through our community. Um that was one. [0:19:34, 0:19:38]: One of the things we discussed on our leadership call, weekly leadership call on yesterday. [0:19:40, 0:19:56]: And add and to add to that, one of those additional lead uh sites is going to be City Stockbridge, Merrill Manters Conference Center. We'll work it out with the public health department along with uh Mr. Ash and the county staff, but that's coming here shortly and we work out all the details for that. Mr. Blount, please go ahead. [0:19:57, 0:20:00]: Mr. S, thanks for coming and uh we we definitely appreciate your uh [0:20:01, 0:20:05]: your updates and whatever you have to get to the city and the counties. We thank you for all the work that you're doing. [0:20:06, 0:20:11]: Uh I think about three uh about three years ago, as you know, we all went to Maryland. [0:20:11, 0:20:13]: Uh for some FEMA training. [0:20:13, 0:20:20]: And out of that, we at one time we talked about cities and the county coming together. [0:20:21, 0:20:40]: uh for emergency situations, even coordinated uh emergencies, uh rather than attack on the county or the city. Uh and with the implementation of an amphitheater uh and other growth around the city, will we start back those talks pretty soon that we can actually coordinate and get the cities and the county involved and really get together and have [0:20:40, 0:20:41]: A uh [0:20:41, 0:20:49]: uh a coordinated effort that we would know in case of an emergency uh hit on us county or one of the cities that we can all come together. [0:20:50, 0:20:56]: Sure, absolutely. Um the the amplit theater for the city of Stockbridge is a huge impact to the community. [0:20:56, 0:21:15]: Had an opportunity, me and Mr. Nighting have talked and had some conversations. And we'll work with you guys as we develop emergency plans, planning plans for that property for you in the city. Prior to COVID, we had start rolling out and continuing Councilman Blount, the things that we learned from the Maryland trip. [0:21:15, 0:21:31]: I can tell you of the after action report, we have implemented the government training for all our elected officials, and we'll be doing it at each election cycle as we have new elected officials come on to our municipal governments and our county government. Um, Chair Harrell and County Manager. [0:21:32, 0:21:51]: Matthews had also tasked us with doing some additional trainings to incorporate those best practices that we brought back from Maryland. COVID has delayed us, but it hadn't deterred us to continue that collaboration and that milestone we made when we took 60 plus communities partners to Maryland, sir. [0:21:52, 0:22:01]: Uh one more question if you would, Mayor. Along with that, uh Mr. Ash, if if we could uh when we start those talks, because we also talked about [0:22:02, 0:22:05]: A uh that each city along with the county that will put [0:22:05, 0:22:18]: um basically a kitty together that would because everything that go that go is gonna go that could go on is gonna cost. And so that when we have those talks that we can know but have each city along with the county. [0:22:18, 0:22:32]: how would that uh how would we stage those funds and how we have those in pre preparedness for whatever uh uh could ever happen in one of the cities or the counties areas. So uh I just uh appreciate all you do and I'd just be glad when we can have those talks as soon as possible. [0:22:33, 0:22:34]: Absolutely, Councillor. [0:22:35, 0:22:38]: Councilman Thomas, you are unmuted, sir. Did you have a comment or a question? [0:22:38, 0:22:42]: Yeah, comment. Um I I had a couple of questions sent it around. [0:22:42, 0:22:55]: uh some of the questions that uh councilman Blount made, but I let me just take this opportunity just to thank Mr. Ash for his due diligence. I know he's been a director for a while and even before COVID. [0:22:55, 0:22:57]: Uh he was putting the work in. [0:22:57, 0:23:00]: Uh, and I just wanna again thank you and your team. [0:23:01, 0:23:05]: uh for what you do in Henry County. And as I saw to mention in the prayer and [0:23:06, 0:23:10]: Um I've talked to you at the first responders um luncheon. [0:23:10, 0:23:14]: Uh it is very important that we are in tune. [0:23:14, 0:23:34]: And and and just give thanks uh to all of our first responders. But I just want to thank you since you're here and I know you've been doing this for a while and you've been doing a great job. And uh we just want to just commend you for coming tonight and and just you know being in the trenches uh to try to keep all of us safe here in Henry County. [0:23:34, 0:23:36]: And we just say thank you. [0:23:36, 0:23:38]: Thank you, Councilman. I appreciate that, sir. [0:23:38, 0:23:42]: Any questions or comments, uh counsel for Mr. Ash at all? [0:23:44, 0:24:04]: Seeing none. Hey Don, listen, you can stay as long as you like, sir. Appreciate your presentation. And obviously, uh, we get a chance to talk with you quite a bit over the course of every the last 18 months. And so we'll continue to move on and do what we can, of course, with you and the rest of the cities and the county to keep our citizens and constituents safe. Well, thank you for being with us this evening. [0:24:04, 0:24:17]: Sir, once again, you can stay you can stay as long as you like. Mr. Knighton. Yeah, Mayor Ford, I just wanted to make sure everyone knew, of course, the great work that Don Ash has done over the years. And obviously, I think everybody knows that he'll be transitioning. [0:24:18, 0:24:19]: Uh, from Henry County. [0:24:20, 0:24:22]: Um and uh leaving soon. [0:24:22, 0:24:27]: Um and I just wanted to thank him for his many, many years of service. [0:24:27, 0:24:32]: um uh with the public, uh with the various cities, with the county. He has always been [0:24:33, 0:24:34]: are extremely helpful. [0:24:35, 0:24:41]: uh to the city of stockbridge, to me, to the other city managers, and extremely responsive whenever we have called. [0:24:41, 0:24:46]: upon him. And so I just want to certainly publicly uh say thank you to him. [0:24:46, 0:24:53]: for a great tenure he has had uh with Henry County and supporting the county, the city and all of its citizens. [0:24:54, 0:24:58]: Fantastic. Diddle. I appreciate that. I actually I didn't know, but o okay. [0:24:58, 0:25:18]: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Nina. Thank you to the council. I've been blessed to serve this great community for 30 years. I started out a very young man, probably a head full of hair. But God has blessed me to serve with amazing people, amazing leaders like you guys and the relationship. [0:25:18, 0:25:19]: Relationships. [0:25:20, 0:25:37]: our um forever life-changing relationships I'll have. And um I I hate that I hadn't had a longer opportunity to meet work with Mr. Nightington, but it has been nothing but a great pleasure to work with him. And to you and the fine citizen of Stockbridge, thank you for the opportunity to serve you guys for over 30 years. God bless you. [0:25:37, 0:25:39]: Okay. Thank you, sir. God bless you as well. [0:25:39, 0:25:43]: All right. No other comments. So we'll go to a public hearing. [0:25:43, 0:25:50]: Council consideration approved the annual 2021 to 2026 ST. [0:25:51, 0:25:56]: WP short-term work and SIE capital improvement element for transmission. [0:25:56, 0:26:01]: To the ARC and Lana Regional Commission, Miss Breca Johnson, please. [0:26:02, 0:26:05]: Good evening, Mayor, Council members, citizens. [0:26:05, 0:26:25]: Uh yes, the short-term work program is a five-year plan that the Department of Community Affairs requires cities and counties to maintain in order to meet the minimum standards per the state requirements and to maintain our qualified local government status. [0:26:25, 0:26:41]: This particular short-term work program has been updated with some projects that we've updated statuses for each of them and also we were able to move several into a complete status. So if I share my screen. [0:26:43, 0:26:45]: I will pull up the document. [0:26:50, 0:26:52]: Okay. Can everyone see my screen here? [0:26:52, 0:26:54]: Yes, we can see it. Thank you. [0:26:54, 0:26:56]: Trying to make it a little bit bigger if I can. [0:26:59, 0:27:01]: Okay, so [0:27:01, 0:27:02]: There are um [0:27:04, 0:27:12]: Eight elements of a comprehensive plan: community facilities and transportation, housing. [0:27:13, 0:27:21]: Land use, economic development are several of them. And we've outlined some of the projects that have been underway as a result of those particular. [0:27:22, 0:27:27]: elements that we have to make sure we maintain, create funding for. [0:27:27, 0:27:31]: as they are new projects or existing projects in the city. [0:27:31, 0:27:33]: So just kinda scroll down. [0:27:33, 0:27:38]: You'll see these are some existing projects that were in place prior. [0:27:40, 0:27:43]: And you have the documents you all won't bore you with going through each. [0:27:44, 0:27:48]: Of these items. Um, however, I did want to point out [0:27:50, 0:27:52]: And let me get this to scroll down a little bit more. [0:27:57, 0:27:58]: Just a moment. [0:28:07, 0:28:08]: So [0:28:13, 0:28:20]: So there are seven items that are currently complete. [0:28:20, 0:28:27]: We have a number and I'm gonna go through it here if you guys don't mind. Sorry, you aren't sharing your screen. Right, right. Yeah, there we go. Correct. [0:28:27, 0:28:30]: I'm sorry, just one moment. I'll get our clean copy. [0:28:32, 0:28:32]: Okay. [0:28:34, 0:28:44]: Here we are. Let me move my stuff over. So then you'll see in the completed process. I'm sorry, Ms. Johnson, still not see the screen just yet. [0:28:45, 0:28:49]: You don't see my screen? We see your files, but not the actual document. [0:28:51, 0:28:51]: Just one moment. [0:29:01, 0:29:01]: Okay. [0:29:11, 0:29:11]: Thank you. [0:29:14, 0:29:32]: Okay, can you see it now? Now we got it. There we go. Okay, sorry about that. So um I have a list of the completed projects. Um I mentioned this is an annual update, but the state requires us to say, okay, in this five-year time period, we're going to maintain or or [0:29:32, 0:29:34]: gonna complete certain projects. [0:29:34, 0:29:36]: Because we have [0:29:36, 0:29:41]: impact fees, we collect impact fees, we have to have a capital improvements element. [0:29:42, 0:29:48]: So what is here are items that you all approved earlier this year from the previous short-term work program. [0:29:48, 0:29:54]: and we updated them based on the current status. So for the amphitheater, that is complete. [0:29:55, 0:30:01]: and it was done within the timeframe that we stated it would be and with several years to spare. [0:30:02, 0:30:10]: Also, there are several road projects, sewer, and water, wastewater treatment projects that were also. [0:30:10, 0:30:14]: completed this year. Several, I think I have seven or so. [0:30:14, 0:30:15]: And um [0:30:16, 0:30:19]: And it just we just give an account of these things. [0:30:19, 0:30:36]: The state code requires us to submit this to the Department of Community Affairs. So we transmit, we would transmit tonight to them. They have 30 days to review the documents and to provide any comments. Once they do that, we will bring this back formally. [0:30:36, 0:30:45]: for an adoption before um October 31st, which is our our deadline for getting this done. So we're right on cue to do just that. [0:30:45, 0:30:47]: So if you have any questions for me, please let me know. [0:30:49, 0:30:51]: Council, any questions for Ms. Johnson at all? [0:30:52, 0:30:59]: Yes, sir. Okay, go right here, Miracle Tan. Yes, uh it's always good uh to take this exercise because [0:30:59, 0:31:01]: What it does is shows the public that [0:31:01, 0:31:05]: Uh you know, these pa these projects are planned. [0:31:06, 0:31:10]: They are uh in our long term plan, they're in the short term work for [0:31:10, 0:31:12]: Plan and we're executing them. [0:31:12, 0:31:16]: If we could go to a couple of the projects, you went to the amphitheater already. [0:31:17, 0:31:17]: Uh [0:31:18, 0:31:19]: The Cultural Arts Center. [0:31:20, 0:31:24]: Uh as well, uh Kerry Mayhem Recultural Art Center. [0:31:24, 0:31:28]: It should be on the access to community development. [0:31:29, 0:31:38]: Where it lives. Okay. So here is Cultural Arts Center. Um community development,$18 million. [0:31:39, 0:31:42]: Okay. And uh like the project says twenty eighteen. [0:31:43, 0:31:46]: Surely hopefully we'll break ground on that before the end of the year and maybe [0:31:47, 0:31:50]: Uh have that completed off the checklist as well. So [0:31:50, 0:31:52]: Folks can understand. [0:31:52, 0:31:53]: uh what we're doing. [0:31:53, 0:31:55]: See the first project there. [0:31:56, 0:31:57]: Uh the splash pair [0:31:58, 0:31:59]: Uh part uh the design. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: Okay, I think um [0:32:02, 0:32:05]: We were we we had that discussion earlier this year about [0:32:06, 0:32:10]: Uh moving that project forward. Mr. Knight, can you give us an update on that? [0:32:13, 0:32:20]: Unmute myself here. Yes. Um actually we had several conversations. Yes, two rounds of conversations with uh TSW. [0:32:21, 0:32:25]: Um regarding the splash pad uh um with heather and brian base. [0:32:26, 0:32:37]: The folks working on that and we've looked at cost saving measures that we could employ to bring the cost down. I believe when we had this before, it was pretty significant cost. They've gone back and looked at different iterations of [0:32:38, 0:32:39]: The um [0:32:39, 0:32:42]: Splash pad concept um [0:32:42, 0:32:43]: That would that would [0:32:44, 0:32:49]: proposed for adjacent to city hall. That's where the location I'm looking at if you've as you've seen before. [0:32:50, 0:32:58]: So, what they have developed or are developing is a bent a menu, if you will, so that we can break down the various costs of [0:32:58, 0:33:05]: the splash pad, the different features and components, and then determine out of that menu of items what is the ultimate [0:33:05, 0:33:13]: Product that we want to have. In other words, there are certain features in there that may not be desirable and may be cost saving versus others. [0:33:13, 0:33:19]: And so that is the uh exercise that is, I believe, close to being completed right now from uh TSW. [0:33:20, 0:33:24]: Okay, and the location that we kinda discussed was that [0:33:24, 0:33:29]: Now looks like it's like a green space which is right in front of uh the amphitheater, is that correct? [0:33:29, 0:33:31]: That's r that's right. That is correct. [0:33:32, 0:33:36]: Okay. Al also um here uh Miss Johnson, uh we [0:33:36, 0:33:39]: Have embarked upon a uh [0:33:39, 0:33:43]: Sidewalk and hen uh multi-use trails. Um [0:33:43, 0:33:49]: indicate where we have that at listed on this list where we're gonna do uh a trail network. [0:33:51, 0:33:53]: Okay, just one moment. [0:34:02, 0:34:15]: We have a trail study implementation and then a park plan development to look at pocket parks, passive green spaces throughout the city. [0:34:17, 0:34:19]: Right. I think the number one would be [0:34:19, 0:34:23]: Uh right, from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty five. [0:34:23, 0:34:26]: where we're looking at uh we did bond. [0:34:26, 0:34:28]: А мільйон доллар to [0:34:28, 0:34:31]: have for our connected trail network. [0:34:31, 0:34:32]: uh in the city. [0:34:32, 0:34:34]: Uh particularly [0:34:34, 0:34:37]: uh the downtown area and then [0:34:37, 0:34:39]: Uh we have um [0:34:39, 0:34:42]: Uh upwards of twenty milyen dollars on the T splice. [0:34:42, 0:34:44]: Should it pass? [0:34:44, 0:34:47]: Uh today uh in November. We certainly hope [0:34:47, 0:34:51]: That it would so that we could provide pedestrian safety. [0:34:51, 0:34:53]: to the community and that um [0:34:53, 0:35:05]: you know, the connectivity is brought to us uh uh as well. So that uh we have so many roadways that don't have uh sidewalks and we hear that from citizens all the time. [0:35:05, 0:35:09]: But my main focus here is I just want the citizens to understand. [0:35:09, 0:35:12]: This short term work program, we're just not working. [0:35:12, 0:35:15]: And deciding to do projects at hop. [0:35:15, 0:35:17]: It's on the short term work program. [0:35:17, 0:35:20]: And we developed these project uh projects. [0:35:20, 0:35:22]: By listening to the citizens every day. [0:35:23, 0:35:27]: We we listen to you, you tell us these things that you want. [0:35:27, 0:35:30]: We put them on our plans and then we're executing them. [0:35:30, 0:35:31]: So [0:35:31, 0:35:32]: We they say [0:35:32, 0:35:34]: You know, plan your work and work your plan. [0:35:35, 0:35:40]: We are plan this is our plan and we're working it. We're checking these all. [0:35:40, 0:35:42]: And it's so good to see progress. [0:35:42, 0:35:44]: Uh, coming to the city and the last. [0:35:44, 0:35:47]: twelve months to eighteen months, we have really made [0:35:48, 0:35:50]: Substantial progress in ticking projects off. [0:35:51, 0:35:58]: And this uh uh along our plan. So I certainly want to look at that uh as well. And do we have and the one last one? [0:35:58, 0:36:01]: Uh the wave binding signage. Is that on here, Mr. Knight? [0:36:02, 0:36:02]: Almost [0:36:04, 0:36:08]: I know we certainly have an update to the sign ordinance. [0:36:08, 0:36:20]: Um and wayfinding typically is part of that sign code. That is gonna be and I have have it under adoption under way because it is going to be an item that's approved under the unified development code. [0:36:21, 0:36:31]: Right, that's uh right, right. And citizens should understand that uh this council is is dedicated to having some of the highest standards. [0:36:32, 0:36:33]: In Metro Atlanta. [0:36:33, 0:36:37]: So basically what we're doing is we're having a total rewrite. [0:36:37, 0:36:40]: On the zoning codes in the city. [0:36:40, 0:36:42]: So that when you bring a project to the city. [0:36:43, 0:36:44]: It has to be [0:36:44, 0:36:46]: Of superior quality. [0:36:46, 0:36:50]: Is it anything else other than that in this new ULDC? [0:36:50, 0:36:52]: It's gonna deal with the things that we [0:36:53, 0:36:55]: That kind of slide through the cracks. [0:36:55, 0:36:58]: You know, one of the biggest things that we certainly want. [0:36:58, 0:37:05]: want to be able to deal with is that when we approve these new subdivisions that they will have a owner occupied [0:37:05, 0:37:12]: uh stipulation in the ULDC with a rental cap so that we never get caught in the position again. [0:37:12, 0:37:15]: Where we have a subdivision that is sold out. [0:37:15, 0:37:17]: uh to a rental company. [0:37:17, 0:37:22]: That wasn't the desire and we we plan on closing those gaps and many others. [0:37:22, 0:37:30]: uh in the ULDC. But I certainly and and and the one last one that I I I I want every business to listen to. [0:37:31, 0:37:34]: Go to the opportunity zone designation here. [0:37:35, 0:37:36]: We haven't got there yet. [0:37:40, 0:37:42]: As we endeavor to [0:37:42, 0:37:47]: put forward and get ourselves an opportunity zone tax credit. [0:37:47, 0:37:49]: To handle our business. [0:37:49, 0:37:52]: We just we need to focus on that with laser. [0:37:52, 0:37:53]: Or the laser beam. [0:37:53, 0:37:55]: And economic development. [0:37:55, 0:38:01]: We just I think we've tasked you with uh working on this and moving this ball down the line because [0:38:01, 0:38:04]: You know, when someone brings a new business downtown. [0:38:04, 0:38:06]: They certainly deserve that federal tax credit. [0:38:07, 0:38:10]: And with this council and we need to be committed to [0:38:10, 0:38:12]: moving that forward because all of the [0:38:13, 0:38:15]: advancement that you're seeing in Jonesboro. [0:38:16, 0:38:20]: And several other cities uh in Metro Atlanta, they're dictated by [0:38:21, 0:38:23]: those opportunities on tax credit. [0:38:23, 0:38:25]: Because if you're a business and [0:38:25, 0:38:33]: You uh open up a uh location and you get a three thousand dollar for every uh federal tax credit for every [0:38:33, 0:38:34]: Job created. [0:38:34, 0:38:39]: We need that to incentivize businesses and stockbridge. And I'm ch and I want [0:38:39, 0:38:45]: uh Mr. Knighton and the staff to be focused on this item uh as a as a top priority. Thank you. [0:38:48, 0:38:51]: All right. Mr. N Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:38:51, 0:38:55]: Thank you, Mayor. Uh Mrs. Johnson, thank you for the presentation. [0:38:56, 0:39:01]: Uh I believe I heard you mention an update to the sign ordinance. [0:39:01, 0:39:06]: Um could can you provide me not today of course, but can you provide me something? [0:39:06, 0:39:10]: Uh before the uh next uh UDC um [0:39:10, 0:39:11]: Uh meeting. [0:39:12, 0:39:16]: uh something that I could read and look over on the sign on the update of the sign ordinance. [0:39:17, 0:39:37]: Um certainly. We are still in the process of making updates to it to address a lot of the, you know, the kind of pitfalls, I would say, and kind of humps that we kind of encounter in regards to signage on kind of a regular basis of trying to manage what is good for the city. [0:39:37, 0:39:57]: versus what is something that becomes an eyesore and you know things like that. What we can do is I know we are going to be bringing some highlights of the UBC to you all at the board retreat, at the council retreat. And then formally we plan to bring it to you all on October the 11th. [0:39:57, 0:39:58]: Okay. [0:39:58, 0:40:02]: But most certainly can get that draft out to you all for for a viewing. [0:40:03, 0:40:07]: I appreciate that. And the only reason I asked because at the previous [0:40:07, 0:40:10]: Um meeting with the community. [0:40:11, 0:40:13]: I d I didn't recall any [0:40:14, 0:40:24]: conversation uh updates. I I knew that it was stated that it would be updated, but I just have not heard any uh discussions. [0:40:24, 0:40:28]: Uh but I do appreciate that, but I won't tie this meeting up with that. [0:40:28, 0:40:30]: Uh but if you will um [0:40:31, 0:40:39]: If if you can just share something with me, but I I can give you a call at any time and you can sort of uh just just give me some updates that way if you will. [0:40:39, 0:40:40]: No certainly. [0:40:40, 0:40:49]: Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. No problem. Welcome, sir. Any other uh council members have any other comments here? Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:40:49, 0:40:51]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um [0:40:52, 0:40:55]: Ms. Johnson, could you go back up to the amphitheater, please? [0:40:55, 0:40:56]: Sure. [0:41:07, 0:41:10]: Who is here and also on the completed list? [0:41:11, 0:41:15]: You you have it on the completed list, but I think for um [0:41:16, 0:41:27]: For our um for everybody to know, I guess an update need to be put out here now since we got it now as status as complete. Uh, I guess that's com when you say complete is is because of [0:41:27, 0:41:38]: that it is built and but but is there uh any time that we can get an update when the completion actually gonna happen? Because I do I am concerned about some of the concerns about [0:41:38, 0:41:39]: Um [0:41:39, 0:41:53]: the surrounding areas that we have not completed when it pertains to the amphitheater when they talked about we've done nothing to Lee Street, we've done nothing to uh even no we haven't done the road work to Lee Street, nor any beautification. We haven't done anything to East Atlanta. [0:41:54, 0:42:07]: uh when it comes to the amphitheater and we haven't done any sound and and we haven't done any sound mitigation when it comes to the amphitheater. So when we say complete, when will we get an update on when these will be completed to complete the amphitheater? [0:42:10, 0:42:30]: Um those particular projects were not part of this document for community facilities. This just speaks specifically to the amphitheater building and crowns, but those other items I'm sure we can address. [0:42:30, 0:42:41]: And I'm sure Mr. Knighton can address those things, but they wouldn't necessarily be in this document, but possibly in T Splash. [0:42:42, 0:42:45]: No, this this is not this this item's not T S Plus. [0:42:46, 0:43:05]: Even when we talk when we talk about the roles, that's something different. But I I guess Mr. Knighton, I guess you could jump in because right now we've we've got showing on this complete. When when were these things, you know, to give an update on on these areas too actually well, yeah. I'll be glad to send the council uh an update on all of those items you mentioned by the end of this week by Friday. [0:43:05, 0:43:09]: Um obviously the the um roadway projects have been approved. [0:43:10, 0:43:15]: Um contractor identified. Uh so that obviously is moving on on East Atlanta and [0:43:16, 0:43:21]: And um and Lee Street for the roadway projects and any other items that you mentioned with respect to beautification. [0:43:21, 0:43:28]: In sidewalks on Lee Street, of course our contractor, uh Copp and Design has been working on that, but I will provide the count the council. [0:43:29, 0:43:34]: with an update on that more specific update on that or detailed update on that by the end of this week by Friday. [0:43:34, 0:43:35]: Thank you, sir. [0:43:36, 0:43:40]: Council, any other comments uh for Miss Johnson at all? [0:43:42, 0:43:48]: Okay, I I don't see any. Okay, on that note, now this is a public hearing. Yes, ma'am. I'm sorry. [0:43:49, 0:43:56]: I wanted to ask Mr. Knighton if he'd also include wayfinding signage in that status update that he'll send. [0:44:01, 0:44:02]: Mr. Nine. [0:44:02, 0:44:03]: Sure. [0:44:06, 0:44:08]: I'm sorry the it froze up on me. I'm sorry. [0:44:09, 0:44:20]: She asked about what way way finding signage and update. When you send an update on Friday. Yes, I will. I'll include that in the update. Yes. I'm sorry that this it froze on me for a second, so I couldn't hear you. [0:44:21, 0:44:21]: Okay. [0:44:22, 0:44:25]: Thank you, sir. Any other comments from the council? [0:44:26, 0:44:46]: And if not, this is a public hearing. So obviously I have to open it up for anybody for or against in the public. And I don't know if anybody's in a waiting room now or not. I don't know if IT guys has something, Mr. Bond has somebody sitting sitting available to speak for or even against. Is anybody there at all? You know? [0:44:46, 0:44:46]: No. [0:44:48, 0:44:48]: Anybody? [0:44:53, 0:45:00]: Ms. Bond, you hear me or is uh Vanessa, do you know of anything at all? Anybody waiting in the waiting room? Because I don't have that yet. [0:45:00, 0:45:04]: I don't see anyone, sir. There are zero attendees on that side. [0:45:04, 0:45:07]: Okay, so I'll open it up for any comments for. [0:45:07, 0:45:12]: And there are no comments at all that we have or and indicate or no one's available. [0:45:12, 0:45:15]: I'll close that piece and open up for anybody against. [0:45:16, 0:45:30]: And once again, if there's no one there at this time, they'll close that. And that means they'll close the open uh the public hearing. If we had no comments on that note, then council, I need a motion to accept uh the document that Ms. Johnson has presented to us. [0:45:31, 0:45:32]: Jamie. [0:45:32, 0:45:34]: So move, Mr. Alexander, is there a second? [0:45:34, 0:45:35]: Okay. [0:45:35, 0:45:37]: Okay. Oh I'm sorry, was that Ms. Gantt? [0:45:37, 0:45:39]: Yes. Okay, good deal. Thank you. [0:45:40, 0:45:43]: All right, so I would imagine we have plenty of questions on that. So [0:45:43, 0:45:48]: I if there are any other questions, let's talk about them now. If not, all in favor, please indicate. [0:45:49, 0:45:51]: Okay, I believe that is the announced decision. [0:45:52, 0:45:53]: Okay, thank you. [0:45:53, 0:45:57]: Um it's holiday. You got you got them as holiday? No problem? [0:45:57, 0:46:01]: Good, thank you. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Council. Appreciate it. [0:46:01, 0:46:06]: Uh Miss Johnson, uh please, uh thank you for your time and effort to see you. Appreciate that. [0:46:06, 0:46:19]: Our pleasure, sir. Thank you. Uh-huh. New business. Council consideration to approve the voting precinct changes for Stockbridge municipal elections presented by um Mr. Berry and Mr. Washington, as well as a clerk. [0:46:20, 0:46:20]: Please. [0:46:21, 0:46:23]: Yeah, so let me just give a uh [0:46:24, 0:46:27]: A shout out to Miss Holliday who's been helping in this process. [0:46:27, 0:46:28]: Because we're trying to figure out [0:46:29, 0:46:31]: Where we can put these precincts. [0:46:31, 0:46:36]: And we've been having a working group, so I want to thank Mayor Ford and Council of Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:46:37, 0:46:40]: And Councilman Barber attended one of the meetings. We meet every Friday. [0:46:40, 0:46:44]: At um ten electronically we'll be meeting with the chair of [0:46:45, 0:46:47]: We've been meeting with the chair of Henry County. [0:46:48, 0:46:51]: and their legal and their election folks over there. [0:46:52, 0:46:52]: And so [0:46:53, 0:46:57]: In short, we sent out a no in short, we sent out a notice and we'll have another one for [0:46:58, 0:47:07]: It's Friday at 10. Mr. Washington. Mr. Washington, stand by. Stand by. Ms. Johnson, could you take take your your screen off, please? You still have your items up. [0:47:10, 0:47:14]: Thank you, ma'am. Miss but Miss Washington, please. Okay. And I'm gonna share the screen and just [0:47:15, 0:47:17]: I'm going to share the screen and show. [0:47:18, 0:47:18]: Is notice? [0:47:21, 0:47:21]: Um [0:47:24, 0:47:25]: This is the [0:47:25, 0:47:29]: Uh the precinct notice we we intend to provide [0:47:29, 0:47:32]: And we've already run this ad in the paper. [0:47:32, 0:47:35]: And it's to it's to provide [0:47:35, 0:47:38]: Pursuing the O C G A twenty one dash two dash two sixty one. [0:47:39, 0:47:42]: We're going to have a precinct in Red Oak. [0:47:42, 0:47:45]: and in the stockbridge east west precincts. [0:47:45, 0:47:50]: A thirty three pre oak red oak precinct will be a red oak united Methodist Church, located at three [0:47:51, 0:47:53]: Three, eight, nine, four, Walt Stevens Road. [0:47:54, 0:48:02]: The polling place for 39 Stockbridge East West will be Stockbridge First United Methodist, located at 4863 North Henry Boulevard. [0:48:03, 0:48:18]: what the hope is and we'll talk we're still in talks with counties to be able to get the population breakdown, et cetera. But what this would mean is that we would have instead of a one precinct that we would have at Merle Manders, Merle Manders would still be one and we would be adding two. [0:48:18, 0:48:19]: And so [0:48:20, 0:48:26]: pretty much it. And so if any of the people from the working group want to comment on this or Ms. Holliday, please go ahead. [0:48:28, 0:48:29]: Ms. Haldo, do you have any comments, ma'am? [0:48:30, 0:48:34]: No, he pretty much laid out everything on where we are right now with it. [0:48:35, 0:48:37]: Uh, Miss Scan, go ahead, please. [0:48:39, 0:48:43]: What is the cost for having two additional precincts and is it in our budget? [0:48:44, 0:48:50]: We are trying to get that number down. We won't know until we get the [0:48:50, 0:48:56]: Pulling the information back from the county. Miss Holliday and Mayor Ford have asked those questions so [0:48:56, 0:49:02]: If you all have any additional and may approach him, Alexander, if y'all have any other questions, please let I mean if y'all have any answers to these questions, let us know. [0:49:03, 0:49:04]: Also [0:49:05, 0:49:09]: Um, you know, we are about what, twenty eight thousand in population. [0:49:10, 0:49:12]: When we have our municipal uh [0:49:14, 0:49:23]: Our municipal turnout is extremely low. It's about 2800, I believe, in 2019. It could have been about 15, 13, 1500 in 2010. [0:49:23, 0:49:25]: Um seventeen. [0:49:25, 0:49:33]: Um, so those are things that we need to take into consideration is cost. So I just want to know what the cost is and is it in our budget. [0:49:35, 0:49:36]: Two good questions. [0:49:39, 0:49:41]: Anybody else have any comments or questions? [0:49:41, 0:49:41]: No. [0:49:43, 0:49:46]: So really we've uh this is already occurs, so really this is [0:49:46, 0:50:01]: I'm kinda understanding that we don't need to vote on this or what we've already or do or do we not? Do you legally need to vote on this? Yeah, we need to we yes, we need to vote on it because what we did was we ran the ad to allow you all the opportunity because you have to do the 60 days out. [0:50:01, 0:50:09]: Okay. We ran the ad so that if you wanted to, you could, but you got to decide on this now if you're going to, and then from there. [0:50:09, 0:50:13]: We're still going to be able to get the precincts and the pulling. [0:50:15, 0:50:17]: The polling machines to the precinct. [0:50:18, 0:50:21]: All right, thank you. Mayor Pro Tem, your hand was up first. [0:50:21, 0:50:23]: Yeah, I would like to ask the clerk. [0:50:23, 0:50:29]: Uh without these two precincts, what is the total cost of the election? What that you had I know you had [0:50:30, 0:50:35]: been going back and forth with Ms. Pitts. So without the two precincts, what is the total cost of the election? [0:50:36, 0:50:40]: Nineteen thousand dollars is what we paid in twenty nineteen. [0:50:40, 0:50:51]: Okay. And what is your best guesstimate of the increase worst case scenario? Might be to add two precincts. If we had all these others that we just added two. [0:50:52, 0:50:55]: Uh what what what uh is is there a rough ballpark? [0:50:56, 0:51:00]: Uh we we've budgeted twenty five in in this year. [0:51:00, 0:51:08]: I can say that what we spoke about the other day was we may not we don't feel like we will at uh need those machines because. [0:51:09, 0:51:17]: Right now everyone is voting at the Merrill Manders Conference Center. And so there are a number of machines that are placed in that location. [0:51:17, 0:51:22]: If you were to expand to three locations, you would simply need to take [0:51:22, 0:51:28]: some of the machines that are currently at Merranders and put those reloc relocate those to the other. [0:51:28, 0:51:34]: polling location. So there's not necessarily, I don't believe, going to be a need because your population [0:51:34, 0:51:36]: Numbers didn't go. [0:51:36, 0:51:38]: through the roof where you would need additional machines. [0:51:39, 0:51:39]: So [0:51:40, 0:51:43]: Uh, hopefully it's it is just labor. [0:51:44, 0:51:45]: Um [0:51:45, 0:51:48]: dealing with those other locations. And I think that [0:51:49, 0:51:50]: Um based on [0:51:52, 0:51:56]: The twenty nineteen numbers and what we've budgeted for, I think you should be okay. [0:51:57, 0:52:12]: So if we had to add a couple of machines, what are we talking about? If we did if we did have to add, you know, three two, three machines. What's I don't have those numbers. The county, uh, because they are your um I you have an IGA with the county who actually does that, I don't have those numbers. [0:52:12, 0:52:13]: And the [0:52:13, 0:52:20]: Uh, director is not in the office this week at all. So we were not able to get that information back prior to this meeting. [0:52:20, 0:52:23]: But what you said pretty much was the entire election. [0:52:24, 0:52:32]: was nineteen thousand dollars. Is that in twenty nineteen? That's so adding two precincts, we're talking about basically thousands of dollars. What we're talking about is [0:52:33, 0:52:40]: Is is making sure that everybody, every citizen in Stockbridge has a access to vote. [0:52:40, 0:52:42]: You know, at the last election. [0:52:43, 0:52:45]: We have people standing in a line. [0:52:45, 0:52:55]: that was a mile long when the polls closed. I didn't know that there were several voters who told me, I'm sorry, I wanted to vote, but I I I can't wait anymore. I had to leave. [0:52:56, 0:53:03]: And w you know, somebody could lose an election based on that. And we want to do everything possible in order to do that. [0:53:04, 0:53:04]: I think [0:53:05, 0:53:18]: As you said, if we budgeted twenty-five thousand and the election cost of the total entire election was nineteen thousand dollars, I don't think we're gonna exceed the twenty-five thousand, so it would be in the budget. [0:53:18, 0:53:20]: But the but the main impetus here [0:53:21, 0:53:22]: Із то make sure that everybody [0:53:23, 0:53:29]: has access to voting because waiting in line is a voter suppression measure as well. [0:53:29, 0:53:32]: Once people have to wait an extraordinary amount of time. [0:53:33, 0:53:36]: So if we can divide that up instead of those people waiting. [0:53:36, 0:53:39]: Extended amount of time in the three precincts. [0:53:39, 0:53:41]: then it helps [0:53:41, 0:53:42]: Uh with voter turnout. [0:53:42, 0:53:45]: Because you know, we said, Well, voter turnout. [0:53:45, 0:53:46]: Was [0:53:46, 0:53:48]: Not all that dramatic. [0:53:48, 0:53:51]: I say it was. It might have been even greater. [0:53:51, 0:53:54]: had we not had people leaving the line. [0:53:54, 0:53:56]: Because they had to wait so long. [0:53:56, 0:53:59]: So this is one of our most important tasks. [0:53:59, 0:54:00]: For us to be able to [0:54:01, 0:54:03]: uh move forward so I certainly support [0:54:04, 0:54:11]: Uh moving forward with this. So we're one last question for the attorney. Is this the we have this the the deadline is tonight? So we have to vote. Is that correct? [0:54:12, 0:54:12]: Well. [0:54:13, 0:54:17]: Well, two things. One, I forgot, Miss Holland, if you can show them the [0:54:18, 0:54:19]: Precinct. [0:54:19, 0:54:20]: The proposed precincts. [0:54:21, 0:54:23]: Got the three precincts. [0:54:23, 0:54:26]: We've got three proposed precincts. [0:54:27, 0:54:27]: And [0:54:28, 0:54:29]: I won let me make [0:54:29, 0:54:33]: And if Miss Holly, if you could share the screen with what we were saying they were. [0:54:33, 0:54:35]: You're talking about a map. Is that what you're talking about, sir? [0:54:35, 0:54:36]: Yes, sir. [0:54:38, 0:54:40]: And the ad [0:54:40, 0:54:42]: Has been running for two weeks. [0:54:42, 0:54:44]: It just has to be sixty days. [0:54:45, 0:54:46]: Notice if you all [0:54:47, 0:54:49]: are going to do it. So yes. [0:54:50, 0:54:53]: So we're at the sixty days now is what you're saying, or is it [0:54:55, 0:54:56]: Томоро [0:54:57, 0:54:59]: This will be the last council meet before the sixty days, you're correct. [0:55:00, 0:55:05]: Right. Okay. Okay. So in essence, the election November second, sixty days out from that would be September. [0:55:07, 0:55:09]: Okay, so let's look at the map. [0:55:13, 0:55:27]: Now I believe, Mr. Uh Washington, in your description earlier, we have I think we have an understanding that these two uh precincts were only re operating on election day. It's actual election day itself. Make sure we get clarified that, right? Yes. [0:55:27, 0:55:27]: Okay. [0:55:29, 0:55:30]: Right. [0:55:41, 0:55:42]: You have Miss Holly? [0:55:42, 0:55:43]: I just sent it to you. [0:55:44, 0:55:44]: Okay. [0:55:44, 0:55:47]: Oh, you want me to show it? Okay. Please, if you would. [0:55:49, 0:55:57]: I'm I'm the timekeeper of the many person. Well I have a ready. But the mayor protests are busting the time tonight, as he well knows. [0:55:58, 0:56:17]: Well that was a public hearing, and that's why I kinda wait a minute. I just started speaking from the public part. Come on, Mayor Putin. You on this item, right? No, you get three minutes on each item, not one item. I understand. I understand what it I understand. I understand. Go ahead. Go ahead, Mr. Washington. So these black lines, I guess, Ms. Holland, you can take us over. [0:56:17, 0:56:25]: the three proposed black lines, because I don't want to me we tried to make sure that we kept neighborhoods intact, et cetera. [0:56:25, 0:56:26]: Um [0:56:26, 0:56:38]: It's Holly knowing all these streets like the back of her hand. No, not necessarily. But um starting down here at Jodico and going upwards to Red Oak was going to be considered the Red Oak. [0:56:39, 0:56:40]: Um precinct. [0:56:41, 0:56:43]: Eagles Land and Parkway. [0:56:44, 0:56:46]: Is this line here? [0:56:47, 0:56:49]: East Lake Parkway and Eagles Landing is [0:56:49, 0:56:52]: And this section southward is [0:56:52, 0:56:54]: Start with Church United Methodist Church. [0:56:54, 0:57:02]: And this area going north, East Lake Parkway, Eagles Lane and Parkway is Stockbridge Central, which is the Merrymanders Conference Center. [0:57:03, 0:57:04]: For your three Poland locations. [0:57:05, 0:57:06]: And what we had to [0:57:07, 0:57:08]: Um [0:57:08, 0:57:22]: consider was population. So while this area appears to be a large area, it is not as excuse me. I'm sorry. I don't see the cursor moving. Is somebody is there any oh I'm sharing no I'm sharing no max. Oh I'm sorry. I was moving mine. Okay, I'm sorry. [0:57:23, 0:57:24]: Okay. [0:57:24, 0:57:24]: You won't [0:57:25, 0:57:27]: I don't think I I think I have to do that on my side. [0:57:27, 0:57:28]: Okay. [0:57:30, 0:57:34]: So show me where you will be on the black line on the left of your screen. [0:57:34, 0:57:37]: Going down, that's actually seventy five. [0:57:37, 0:57:38]: This one here. [0:57:38, 0:57:39]: Yes. [0:57:39, 0:57:41]: And down to Jodico. [0:57:43, 0:57:45]: Year down. [0:57:46, 0:57:47]: Correct. [0:57:47, 0:57:48]: That's one precinct. [0:57:48, 0:57:49]: Red red oak. [0:57:51, 0:57:52]: All right, so that's where [0:57:54, 0:57:54]: Oak. [0:57:57, 0:57:58]: And the [0:57:59, 0:58:01]: This one here. [0:58:02, 0:58:03]: Yes. [0:58:05, 0:58:06]: And [0:58:07, 0:58:08]: іст [0:58:10, 0:58:10]: Yes. [0:58:11, 0:58:15]: StarPrid Central, which is the Merle Manders Conference Center, MMCC. [0:58:20, 0:58:21]: Mm. [0:58:21, 0:58:22]: And then [0:58:24, 0:58:25]: Correct. [0:58:28, 0:58:28]: Yes. [0:58:29, 0:58:31]: Stockbridge First United Methodist Church. [0:58:35, 0:58:37]: That'll be Scott Grace Church. [0:58:40, 0:58:42]: Right. Right. Right. [0:58:45, 0:58:49]: And I can I can erase this so y'all can see the black lines again. [0:58:54, 0:59:13]: All right. So it is my assumption that uh once we get um the results, I guess the confirmed results of the of our census that that this this will probably it's could possibly change again. And would that not be the case with get'cause don't the pr avoiding preachers have to be somewhat uh equal in in population? [0:59:15, 0:59:24]: And that's kind of how we drew it, um, based on population, because as you'll see, this area oh again, the the um conference center area. [0:59:24, 0:59:31]: It's not as populated. While it may be a larger landmass, it but it's not as populated as some of the other areas. Okay. [0:59:32, 0:59:33]: All right. Good deal. [0:59:34, 0:59:40]: Uh Councilwoman Gantt you've been having raise your hand. Uh what are your concerns and questions? Well my concerns are [0:59:40, 0:59:48]: I'm not against the voting precinct. I'm okay as long as we don't go above the 25,000. I think we're rushing everything as usual. [0:59:48, 1:00:00]: at the last minute and I get this one because we have been talking about this. The mayor council, um, I get that we've had meetings. So I appreciate Miss Holiday your efforts and our uh [1:00:01, 1:00:06]: attorneys that we have here. I really appreciate you guys' efforts in getting this together. [1:00:06, 1:00:12]: Um, I I do want I don't want to suppress any votes. I want to make it convenient for people to vote. [1:00:12, 1:00:14]: If we have a budget of twenty five thousand. [1:00:14, 1:00:21]: Then I would be okay. I'm not gonna go over 25,000. I think that we need to be responsible. [1:00:22, 1:00:23]: And start [1:00:23, 1:00:28]: asking, you know, what it costs first and knowing that we have the money in our budget before we go. [1:00:29, 1:00:31]: making decisions. So [1:00:32, 1:00:35]: Um, I'm okay with it up to the twenty five thousand. [1:00:35, 1:00:37]: If it's something beyond that, then I'm not. [1:00:38, 1:00:43]: Okay, Mr. Blount. I'm sorry. I'm stand by Mr. Blount. No, no, please let him go ahead. Okay, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:00:46, 1:00:52]: Yeah, Mayor, I uh thank you. Um I I'm I'm gonna you know, when you look at the uh masses of the city of Stockbridge. [1:00:53, 1:00:54]: Uh, we're talking about less than [1:00:55, 1:00:59]: Ten percent of stockbridge itself even goes out in the boat. [1:01:00, 1:01:08]: uh uh with with the numbers that we're getting in. And so I I'm okay with like we like uh Councilwoman Gantt said, we have talked about [1:01:08, 1:01:11]: Uh expanding the precincts, but I I wanted to say for me. [1:01:12, 1:01:13]: Uh I'm [1:01:13, 1:01:24]: I will vote for what we need to vote for tonight with a contingency that it doesn't exceed the$25,000 since that's what we've budgeted. Um, because I I also agree with um [1:01:24, 1:01:32]: Um, Miss Holiday, uh, with with the masses being less than ten percent of the people of Stockbridge even going to vote. Um [1:01:33, 1:01:35]: If very Cs um [1:01:35, 1:01:39]: Ms. Holliday, I'm sorry if I I'm you you didn't I'm not quoting you, I'm just saying that [1:01:39, 1:01:44]: You you're talking about the precinct uh machines. Uh I wouldn't want to [1:01:44, 1:01:59]: um exceed uh and make this too m too mo too much amount of money uh to for that one day when when the um when it comes to the city of start bridge elections you're not even having that type of turnout anyway. [1:02:00, 1:02:02]: Wait, I I just wanna be clear, Mayor. [1:02:03, 1:02:08]: The twenty five thousand is for the twenty twenty-one election total. That is not just for one day. [1:02:08, 1:02:14]: And uh I agree with you, uh Councilwoman Gantt, that this has been a discussion of this council. [1:02:14, 1:02:19]: Which is why when we were going forward with the budget for twenty twenty-one, we took into consideration [1:02:20, 1:02:24]: that the council wanted to extend its precincts and so we added funding. [1:02:25, 1:02:29]: uh to be able to cover that if this is where we ended up um being. [1:02:29, 1:02:31]: So we were preparing for it. [1:02:31, 1:02:32]: Um and to my [1:02:33, 1:02:35]: argument, I believe it only needs to be labor. [1:02:36, 1:02:40]: Um, because of the machines that are currently in the Murr Manders Conference Center. [1:02:40, 1:02:43]: And I have heard from some of the [1:02:43, 1:02:44]: Voters. [1:02:44, 1:02:51]: They don't come and vote because their only location to come and vote is at the Morrill Mandis Conference Center and some of them choose not to vote. [1:02:51, 1:02:53]: So this would make it um [1:02:54, 1:02:57]: More convenient for them to have other locations to vote. [1:02:58, 1:03:00]: On municipal elections. [1:03:02, 1:03:02]: Okay, great. [1:03:03, 1:03:05]: Uh Mr. Blondagin, go ahead, please. [1:03:07, 1:03:20]: Well, the the um uh the United Methodist Church is just right up the street from the Merrill Menders. So if if it was to promote more voting, then we probably should have seen one over here uh more closer to the Eagles Landing area. Uh [1:03:20, 1:03:28]: uh for the ones that are on this side of the tracks uh down through this way. And so if we're we we we're either gonna make more voting [1:03:29, 1:03:43]: more voting uh stations for everyone to vote by population or or or is it to get more areas to vote? So that's what must needs to be our ideology because when you look at United Methodists, it's literally [1:03:44, 1:03:46]: The Murray Man is literally down the street from there. [1:03:47, 1:03:49]: They're they're not even half a mile apart. [1:03:50, 1:03:56]: So uh good I'm sorry, Ms. Oliday. No, go ahead. I I just wanted the mayor to acknowledge when you were finished. [1:03:56, 1:04:01]: Yeah, and so that's what I'm saying. Are we trying to promote more people voting? If so, then why don't we have [1:04:01, 1:04:04]: A voting area over here. [1:04:04, 1:04:17]: uh on the Eagles landing side for the communities that are set back over here because when you talk about going down a red oak or you talk about United Methodists, which is close to Merrill Mandas, it would have been befitting to me to have one over here on this side of town. [1:04:19, 1:04:22]: Right. Yes, sir. Let me explain a a couple of things there. [1:04:23, 1:04:23]: The [1:04:24, 1:04:29]: Stockbridge First United Methodist Church became a polling place when they closed Smith Barnes. [1:04:30, 1:04:34]: It used to be Smith Barnes elementary school and when they moved it from the school, they moved it over to [1:04:35, 1:04:36]: Stockbridge First United Methodist Church. [1:04:37, 1:04:38]: The other thing is that [1:04:39, 1:04:40]: They [1:04:41, 1:04:42]: It has to be [1:04:42, 1:04:44]: In a county. [1:04:44, 1:04:45]: Pole in place. [1:04:46, 1:04:49]: and within the stopbridge city limits. [1:04:50, 1:04:55]: So the only two polling places that you currently have outside of the Merrill Matters Conference Center. [1:04:55, 1:04:58]: That is a current co uh county polling place. [1:04:59, 1:05:02]: And located in the city of Stockbridge is [1:05:02, 1:05:04]: Stockbridge First United Methodist Church. [1:05:05, 1:05:05]: And red oak. [1:05:06, 1:05:09]: What we need to do and plan for the next election. [1:05:09, 1:05:13]: is for the county to include more locations. [1:05:13, 1:05:14]: That are in the city. [1:05:15, 1:05:18]: That are on that end of of Stockbridge. [1:05:19, 1:05:26]: And make those location county places and cities. Now that's not that's that doesn't exist. [1:05:27, 1:05:32]: Mirror. And that's what we want to do going forward for the next one. But this is where we are right now. [1:05:33, 1:05:43]: And Mayor Pro Tem, I'll acknowledge you to make this the last time, sir. Yeah, and again that I asked that same question in the working group, but this is where [1:05:43, 1:05:45]: We as the council can impact it. [1:05:46, 1:05:49]: As the census come forwards, the mayor's uh just mentioned. [1:05:50, 1:05:54]: uh you know the th they will be adjusting. The county will be adjusting. [1:05:54, 1:05:55]: Those precincts. [1:05:55, 1:05:58]: But we can adjust those precincts with annexation. [1:05:59, 1:06:04]: So to make sure that that there is a precinct down there. So we have a plan. [1:06:04, 1:06:08]: So we need to move forward with some of those annexations. And if that were to occur. [1:06:08, 1:06:09]: Then we would have had [1:06:10, 1:06:13]: one of those precincts um in the city limits. But [1:06:13, 1:06:17]: I I I support moving forward with this measure tonight. [1:06:17, 1:06:18]: I don't support [1:06:19, 1:06:24]: set I'm setting an arbitrary limit. If it was thirty thousand and thirty five, I would still vote for it. [1:06:24, 1:06:25]: Because it needs to happen. [1:06:26, 1:06:28]: That my position is to pass it. [1:06:28, 1:06:32]: And then you know if it's a reasonable mount amount, I'm certainly okay with it. [1:06:32, 1:06:38]: Um and I think the clerk will do everything possible to make sure that the costs are mi are minimized. [1:06:39, 1:06:51]: All right. Any other comments from the rest of the council? Thoughts? And if not, then I would need a motion to approve this uh proposal presented by Mr. Washington. [1:06:51, 1:06:57]: Mayor, I would like to make a a motion to move forward with this proposal as described by [1:06:57, 1:06:59]: Мисо Вашингтон та ед. [1:06:59, 1:07:02]: Uh additional precincts to the city of Stockbridge. [1:07:03, 1:07:03]: All right. [1:07:04, 1:07:04]: Is there a second? [1:07:07, 1:07:21]: Mr. Mr. Thomas seconds that. All right, great. And of course we didn't mean we didn't want to forget you, Miss Holliday. You we know you were actively involved in all this process. Okay. Okay, good deal. So we have a motion. We have a second. All right. Uh Miss Gantt, you have a question. [1:07:21, 1:07:32]: Yes, I just want to make sure that we put in our motion or if we could put in there that we are going based off of our twenty-five thousand dollar budget. I don't want us going over budget. [1:07:32, 1:07:37]: We have a budget set aside. Miss Holliday has already explained that they took that into consideration. [1:07:37, 1:07:40]: And so I want to make sure that we're not going over budget. [1:07:41, 1:07:42]: With additional precincts. [1:07:43, 1:07:46]: Well, that's up to the individual that made the motion, which is Alexander. [1:07:47, 1:07:51]: I don't want to change the motion because if it's twenty seven thousand, I would vote for it. [1:07:51, 1:07:53]: If it was thirty thousand, I would vote for it. [1:07:54, 1:07:58]: There is no number that I'm gonna five thousand dollars that I'm gonna limit. [1:07:58, 1:08:01]: Uh the citizens access to the vote. [1:08:01, 1:08:14]: There are certain some items that are too critical to say I need to set a cap on uh for$5,000. Cause if it's$27,000, I'm not gonna reject the precinct. So I'm not changing my motion. [1:08:15, 1:08:15]: Right. [1:08:16, 1:08:28]: All right, any other questions? Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. Mayor, I would I would I would concur with Councilwoman Gantt. Uh I would never sit here and vote on anything with an open checkbook and not know the cost. [1:08:29, 1:08:42]: Right. And and that's how we that's how I I'm elected to do. I don't o I don't vote for open checkbook on whatever the cost is gonna be. We go ahead and do it. This is the citizen taxpayers' money and I think we should be good stewards of it. [1:08:42, 1:08:51]: All right. On that note, if uh motions are made and seconded, we had some discussion, unless there's an additional discussion. Miss Barber, you have a comment. Go ready, please. [1:08:52, 1:08:58]: I wanted to ask Mr. Knighton, if this is in excess of$25,000, would you bring this back to the council? [1:09:02, 1:09:06]: Well, I guess that depends on how the motion ultimately is approved. [1:09:07, 1:09:13]: I think Mayor Pro Tem who made the motion said that he wanted to leave it open, or that was the motion to leave it open. [1:09:14, 1:09:18]: But we have we have a budget housing. [1:09:18, 1:09:20]: So it exceeds our budget. [1:09:20, 1:09:22]: What would you do with it? [1:09:22, 1:09:24]: [4165.4, 4165.8]: Go ahead. [1:09:26, 1:09:27]: If it if it exceeded our budget. [1:09:28, 1:09:33]: There is authority within a departmental budget, in this case being the clerk's budget. [1:09:34, 1:09:44]: that there can be modifications made within that particular department with the city manager's approval. In other words, if there is another line item. [1:09:45, 1:09:48]: That can cover that cost of additional two thousand dollars, for instance. [1:09:49, 1:09:52]: And it's prudent to do that and it's acceptable to do that. [1:09:52, 1:10:00]: Uh the uh city ordinance allows for the city manager and treasurer to be able to make that change within that departmental budget. [1:10:01, 1:10:02]: Thank you. [1:10:03, 1:10:04]: All right. [1:10:04, 1:10:13]: That's what I would recommend that we do, that we leave the discretion to the city manager. I wouldn't expect him to approve a hundred thousand dollars. I would let ask him to use his best judgment. [1:10:15, 1:10:20]: All right, so the motion has been made. The second we have discussion. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:10:22, 1:10:23]: Our poles. [1:10:25, 1:10:29]: Okay, so that passes the motion passes three two. Yes, ma'am. [1:10:29, 1:10:35]: I just want for the record that I oppose because we don't have a but we're we're going beyond our budget. [1:10:36, 1:10:37]: Potentially. [1:10:37, 1:10:41]: Potentially. Potentially. We have the potential of going over our budget. [1:10:41, 1:10:42]: Okay. [1:10:42, 1:10:49]: So it's open ended. That's all. That's the only reason. Otherwise, I'm for it. Okay, good deal. It motion passes three, two. Appreciate it. [1:10:49, 1:10:51]: Okay, um [1:10:51, 1:10:59]: Council consideration to amend section 11.26 of the Stockbridge Code of Ordinances. Mr. Washington, please. [1:11:03, 1:11:07]: Actually I'll throw this to Mr Knighton because we've been in consultation about [1:11:08, 1:11:14]: Because the amphitheater is opening, what time and what parameters you all want to set on when the [1:11:14, 1:11:16]: Concert had to end. [1:11:16, 1:11:18]: And so I'll throw it over to Mr. Knighton for that. [1:11:19, 1:11:22]: Mr. Knight's [1:11:22, 1:11:25]: The essentially the noise ordinance has [1:11:25, 1:11:27]: A ten o'clock PM [1:11:28, 1:11:30]: provision um in it. [1:11:30, 1:11:36]: Um and what this request would in essence be simply be eleven o'clock. [1:11:36, 1:11:37]: P E o M. [1:11:37, 1:11:39]: Instead of ten o'clock. [1:11:39, 1:11:43]: PM. That that is where it comes down to essentially for [1:11:44, 1:11:49]: Um any modifications that would need to be made for this particular ordinance unless the attorneys [1:11:49, 1:11:52]: And see something else that needs to be modified. [1:11:53, 1:11:55]: Okay. Mr. Alexander, go ahead. You had your hand up? [1:11:56, 1:12:02]: You know what really makes sense in this instance is to mirror the fireworks ordinance for the state. [1:12:02, 1:12:03]: Which is [1:12:04, 1:12:10]: You know, even if we shut down the amphitheater at eleven, somebody could be shut firing on fireworks to [1:12:10, 1:12:21]: What what is that or what is the time? I think what is uh whatever that mirror is on the weekend, if we mirrored the state ordinance because it you know, whatever happens during that time. [1:12:22, 1:12:33]: If we shut down at 11 and somebody sets off fireworks after 11, it's still legal. So the state did some analysis when they set the firework uh [1:12:33, 1:12:35]: time limit at that point. [1:12:35, 1:12:40]: So what what do we do does anybody know exactly what that is? Is that midnight or what is it? [1:12:42, 1:12:48]: Because Jeremy, I think a quick search says it ends at eleven fifty-nine for fireworks. [1:12:50, 1:12:51]: I can confirm that. [1:12:51, 1:13:11]: I think I think that is more reasonable. I mean we have an amphitheater. We cannot force them to close at ten o'clock, you know, and then you know, let's say the show goes just a little bit longer. They need a little leeway to go a little bit past eleven o'clock. So we set it at the fireworks time, which is whatever the fireworks is, because [1:13:11, 1:13:17]: That's the state law. It will sync up with the state law and we will give them the appropriate amount of time. [1:13:17, 1:13:27]: 12 o'clock, 11 o'clock, or 12 o'clock on the weekend isn't it is what it is because most folks are still out. We still have businesses open. [1:13:27, 1:13:34]: You know, I'm only one, but in the end I certain I certainly think we cannot shut down at ten o'clock. We can't do that. [1:13:35, 1:13:40]: Well, I believe ten o'clock's out the window anyway, sir, but we'll see where we go with this. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:13:42, 1:13:47]: Yeah, uh you know, this is uh this is an interesting part of the council meeting because [1:13:48, 1:13:51]: We're talking about making a decision on something that we haven't finished. [1:13:51, 1:13:56]: actually have an idea what our part gonna be when our part is gonna be completed. [1:13:56, 1:14:00]: And that's mitigating the sound that's gonna go out the resonate through the communities. [1:14:00, 1:14:12]: You know, um, we have to always be conscious and mindful of the residents. We do. That's what we was elected for. It says on our oral charts, citizens, elected officials, those are the top two. [1:14:13, 1:14:18]: And when we tell them that we're we're building an empathy and we're gonna have these sound bears and we're gonna we're doing all that. [1:14:18, 1:14:19]: So [1:14:19, 1:14:31]: Now we're saying, hey, if it goes past eleven o'clock, fireworks, whatever, whatever we do, we do it. But we have to keep the citizens in mind as in the surrounding areas. If we say we're gonna have something in place. [1:14:31, 1:14:37]: That's gonna help with traffic, help mitigate sound, all of these things. This stuff should be in place right now. [1:14:38, 1:14:42]: Because when we open the doors of an amphitheater, we have to be mindful that citizens [1:14:43, 1:14:46]: Want to enjoy still enjoy their homes. [1:14:46, 1:14:53]: They were here before the amphitheater, so at least we need to complete our part. And at this point, we don't even know if our part gonna even be completed. [1:14:54, 1:14:56]: If you can't, go ahead, please. [1:14:58, 1:15:07]: I have some concerns because this was just kind of brought in kind of similar very last minute that we're bringing this up. [1:15:08, 1:15:13]: We have heard from the subdivision from the community behind us on [1:15:14, 1:15:19]: uh whether they're on East Atlanta or or they're directly behind the amphitheater. And we should be concerned. [1:15:20, 1:15:26]: We should be. And I know that some of the council members have been concerned. We should be concerned and we should talk. [1:15:26, 1:15:31]: about maybe some type of of one, I would like for us to provide notice. [1:15:32, 1:15:46]: to that area, whether we send a postcard, some emails, a text out, giving them a warning of when we are gonna have acts and shows. That's something that some of the sub that area has already discussed and would like a courtesy of. [1:15:46, 1:15:48]: Um, I think that would be [1:15:49, 1:15:49]: Um [1:15:50, 1:15:56]: uh just respectful on our end to do that. And I don't I think that would be at minimum cost to do. [1:15:57, 1:16:15]: I do want us to look into some type of sound barriers or or something. At some point, we need to figure out what we can do because we're getting a lot of feedback from neighbors in the community. And that is a concern. And I do understand we have an amphitheater. We have shows that are going to go on. [1:16:15, 1:16:29]: I it's here, it's been built, it was planned. Um, for those of you I don't know who's looking or watching or hearing, but it's been planned before we were even here, any of us on this council, um, through our LCI. [1:16:30, 1:16:33]: So I know we have a a little give and take here. [1:16:33, 1:16:40]: Um, it's a hard thing, you know, to try to please everyone and we're not gonna be able to please everyone, but we can. [1:16:40, 1:16:47]: You know, let's let's think about our citizens, let's think about our constituents, and let's be considerate of that and mindful of that. [1:16:47, 1:16:54]: But we we do know that this amphitheater that we're gonna have shows, that these things are gonna take place, it's here. [1:16:55, 1:16:58]: And the normal standard amphitheater hours. [1:16:59, 1:17:10]: will take place. We just have to come up with some type of resolution, some kind of sound barrier for our neighbors, for our community. That's gonna be the bigger part of this solution. [1:17:11, 1:17:31]: All right, well, I will tell you that when conversation stand by, Councilman Thomas, for a second, please. In my conversation with Mr. Knight, and on on obviously with uh what has occurred with our attorneys, uh, I asked Mr. Knighton to take a look at what other cities were doing in reference to the amphitheaters. And it seemed as though that the the consensus, I believe, on that is the fact those operations ended at 11 o'clock. [1:17:31, 1:17:51]: block. Now I understand what the mayor pro temps talking about a state venue, a state ordinance, I guess, or directive for fireworks as well. One of the reasons why we're talking about this now, I mean, obviously, is is that initially when I had my conversation with Mr. Knighton, we were concerned about I was well, I person was concerned about the uh [1:17:51, 1:18:07]: um actual ribbon cutting, which was set for the fourth. And this will be our only meeting prior to the fourth to have this make this particular change. Now granted, through all this debate, depending on what we decide, if we decide to go forward with 11 or midnight or whatever the case may be, so be it. [1:18:07, 1:18:09]: If by chance we want more debate. [1:18:10, 1:18:23]: There is another opportunity still to debate this at a meeting before the 25th. And I would imagine before if we reschedule the the actual uh ribbon cutting prior to the 25th, to still probably do that as well. Just want to make that for information's sake. [1:18:23, 1:18:25]: Mr Thomas, please. [1:18:25, 1:18:26]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:18:27, 1:18:33]: You know, you know, I I sort of raised this issue um early on in the planning about security. [1:18:34, 1:18:36]: And sound barriers. [1:18:37, 1:18:38]: Um [1:18:38, 1:18:39]: It it really didn't [1:18:39, 1:18:41]: Go that far, but [1:18:41, 1:18:45]: Let me ask uh Mr. Knight and or even the attorneys. [1:18:45, 1:18:47]: Um the average [1:18:48, 1:18:51]: time of concerts ending. [1:18:52, 1:18:57]: I I was thinking all along it was about eleven o'clock. Is that correct, Mr. Knighton? [1:18:59, 1:19:09]: Right, that would be that would be correct. Um the average time would generally be about uh two to two and a half hours. For instance, if a if a show started at eight o'clock. [1:19:09, 1:19:11]: There's some shows that will probably start at seven o'clock. [1:19:12, 1:19:13]: Um and so [1:19:14, 1:19:18]: So the thinking was that eleven o'clock PM would provide the balance between allowing [1:19:19, 1:19:22]: the events to take place in in full and also [1:19:22, 1:19:28]: uh not you know going beyond that that would provide any potential disruption to surrounding areas. [1:19:29, 1:19:32]: And that's how to think that's okay. Um [1:19:34, 1:19:36]: Not to get into [1:19:37, 1:19:40]: The agreement with our um firm [1:19:40, 1:19:42]: Uh we're only talking about [1:19:43, 1:19:43]: Um [1:19:44, 1:19:46]: А каплов концерт. [1:19:46, 1:19:47]: uh per month. [1:19:48, 1:19:53]: There may be other activities that we may have. I do not see them going past eleven. [1:19:53, 1:19:55]: Excuse me. So [1:19:55, 1:19:57]: I would think that we are safe. [1:19:58, 1:20:05]: uh with the eleven o'clock. I think even some of the public comments, I think uh one one comment saw the suggestion at eleven. [1:20:06, 1:20:10]: Um I I think that's all the early for a Friday and a Saturday. [1:20:10, 1:20:13]: Uh but I do think that if once you get past [1:20:14, 1:20:32]: um you know way past uh midnight then i think we're running into some other areas but i think we're okay uh with 11 and maybe just a little after 11 but i would be in favor of voting uh for that i think 10 o'clock is is definitely too early so i think we do need to amend that to at least 11 [1:20:33, 1:20:53]: uh maybe a little past eleven, you know, with a little leeway. But I don't see any of these concerts um, you know, going past eleven. But I do understand, you know, um being consistent with with the county and maybe with the state as well when it comes to the firework. But I I think we're pretty safe with 11, 1115 or what have you. So I'm [1:20:53, 1:20:54]: I'm okay with that. [1:20:56, 1:20:58]: All right. Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [1:20:59, 1:21:00]: Uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:21:02, 1:21:08]: This might be a little off topic, but I wanted to ask Mr. Knighton, um, as far as the sound mitigation. [1:21:09, 1:21:11]: Uh do we have anything in the budget for that? [1:21:13, 1:21:21]: This question came up previously about what type of buffer would be placed along the residential properties. And it was ultimately decided that a [1:21:21, 1:21:26]: Black wrought iron fence along with some landscaping would be placed along that property line. [1:21:27, 1:21:33]: The reason for that was that when landscaping does grow up or natural vegetation does grow up, it does provide some level [1:21:33, 1:21:39]: of sound barrier, but the concern about placing a a concrete type wall or something [1:21:40, 1:21:43]: А соль вall алам да пропорті лай. [1:21:43, 1:21:44]: We give the [1:21:45, 1:21:45]: Um [1:21:45, 1:21:46]: Appearance. [1:21:46, 1:21:50]: Of some type of fortress, it would not be something that would be [1:21:50, 1:21:54]: Inviting in terms of the overall amphitheatre campus. [1:21:54, 1:22:02]: And so I think that was the concern uh that was raised. And so a black rod iron fence has been constructed there along with some landscaping along the back property. [1:22:03, 1:22:04]: Okay, thank you. [1:22:05, 1:22:06]: Mr Blount, go ahead, please. [1:22:07, 1:22:27]: Yeah, thank you, May. I I for me, I just I just would hope that we would have been farther along than this because we talked about all of these topics and all about this, and and the what we it's almost like we're piecing as we go. That's the perception we're giving when we talked about these things uh long before they even broke ground to even build them. [1:22:27, 1:22:33]: amphitheater. How we what about the tra what about the parking? What about the sound? What about all this? We talked about all this stuff. [1:22:34, 1:22:40]: And putting talking about things and making sure that when we open the doors of this amphitheater that they're done. [1:22:40, 1:22:41]: You know, uh [1:22:42, 1:22:42]: Yeah, you do. [1:22:42, 1:22:47]: We should all be jumping doing a Toyota kick for this for this achievement of opening this amphitheater. [1:22:48, 1:22:52]: But we don't want to just dance as a council. We want to see the community dance too. [1:22:52, 1:22:58]: And if we don't do the things that facilitate the community as we build and do these capital improvement projects. [1:22:58, 1:23:03]: Then what are we doing when we sit here and we're talking about people are gonna try to park somewhere. [1:23:03, 1:23:05]: Just to hear Gladys Knight. [1:23:05, 1:23:06]: Impatting La Belle. [1:23:07, 1:23:09]: We're gonna have a traffic nightmare. [1:23:10, 1:23:13]: When we're talking about now when we're opening, just like I said before. [1:23:14, 1:23:16]: All of these things we talked about. [1:23:16, 1:23:25]: This should have simultaneously been going on. Now we're here at a point where we're talking about open empathy, and now we we as a council got to make decisions. [1:23:25, 1:23:28]: based on what is and not what we should have. [1:23:29, 1:23:42]: And when we're talking about opening amphitheater now with with with nothing up to bl uh no kind of sound mitigation and and now we're talking about what time we're gonna close the amphitheater, it's a bad position for the elective body to be in right now. [1:23:42, 1:23:55]: When these things should have been done simultaneously for an open before opening this amphitheater for one single event. Traffic should be fine, the beautification should be fine, whatever road expansions, everything should have been done. [1:23:55, 1:24:02]: Right now, but it hasn't. And then like we say, everyone on this council said we've been talking about this for years. [1:24:02, 1:24:11]: When people get off the interstate right now, will they be able to find amphitheater? No. Why? Because there's no signage that says amphitheater this way. [1:24:13, 1:24:16]: And that's where I'm at as an elected official. [1:24:16, 1:24:21]: Is that we've got to sit back and just tell citizen, hold off, hold on. [1:24:21, 1:24:23]: And now we gotta make decisions. [1:24:23, 1:24:28]: That m that that that should have been done on things prior to tonight. [1:24:28, 1:24:30]: I that concerns me. [1:24:31, 1:24:33]: All right, uh Miss Gantt please go ahead. [1:24:34, 1:24:42]: One question. The Chastain uh amphitheater is in the middle of a subdivision. It's in the middle of a community. [1:24:42, 1:24:44]: What what is their curve for you? [1:24:46, 1:24:47]: Eleven. [1:24:47, 1:24:48]: Eleven. [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: Okay. Or stop at eleven. [1:24:51, 1:24:53]: Okay. Is that standard? [1:24:54, 1:24:56]: Yes. At other locations as well. [1:24:56, 1:25:04]: Yes. Well well yeah, Verizon Amphitheater and Alpha Redd closed at eleven. We've not surveyed the rest of them, but most do, Mr. Dynamic is right, most do. [1:25:05, 1:25:09]: in at eleven. There may be some ex circumstances for weekends. [1:25:09, 1:25:10]: Who else do we end at eleven? [1:25:11, 1:25:11]: Okay. [1:25:11, 1:25:21]: Well, I you know, again, I hear the community, I hear the people nearby. Someone had said they heard us all the way down and flipping rope when we were doing the sound check. [1:25:21, 1:25:22]: Um [1:25:22, 1:25:23]: The you know [1:25:26, 1:25:29]: I'm okay with doing what is reasonable. [1:25:29, 1:25:35]: for a concert. We built this for the public. A lot of people are going to enjoy their concerts. [1:25:36, 1:25:39]: Um and and those that won't, you know. [1:25:39, 1:25:49]: We've got to figure out, you know, some happy medium. And right now I think that happy medium is gonna be sound barriers for the community behind us. Um [1:25:50, 1:25:54]: Some some engineers say that the sound is projecting towards the [1:25:55, 1:25:59]: Because the amphitheater, the way it's facing, the sound is projecting towards the railroad track. [1:26:00, 1:26:01]: Um [1:26:01, 1:26:11]: You know, but we again hear from people already from some of this from the constituents, some of our neighbors, that they still have a problem with the sound. So let's [1:26:12, 1:26:18]: be mindful of that, but I always go with what you know, I don't reinvent the wheel. [1:26:18, 1:26:21]: So I'm I'm gonna be okay with the eleven o'clock. [1:26:21, 1:26:25]: But I do want some kind of resolutions to sound barriers. [1:26:26, 1:26:27]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [1:26:28, 1:26:36]: Yeah, uh Mayor, um I I think the intent and someone could correct me if if I'm wrong, I think the intent tonight. [1:26:37, 1:26:41]: was to amend uh the ordinance from ten to eleven. [1:26:42, 1:26:45]: Uh and I'm willing to make that motion to do that. [1:26:45, 1:26:50]: Uh I think all the the other discussion uh is is worthy. [1:26:50, 1:26:53]: Uh I I think it is the sentiment of this council. [1:26:53, 1:26:55]: to ongoingly [1:26:56, 1:26:58]: Look at how we can um [1:26:58, 1:27:00]: mitigate or minimize [1:27:01, 1:27:02]: Um [1:27:02, 1:27:05]: you know, the noise or the sound, if you will. [1:27:05, 1:27:06]: Um [1:27:06, 1:27:11]: And and I think everyone is okay with that, but I I don't want to see it here right now. [1:27:11, 1:27:13]: Uh the chadow. [1:27:13, 1:27:14]: Be divisive. [1:27:15, 1:27:18]: You know, with these kind of issues, I think it is a concern of everyone. [1:27:19, 1:27:22]: Um, I I just want to deal with the issue that's at hand. [1:27:22, 1:27:24]: And that is the the time factor. [1:27:24, 1:27:27]: I recommend that we do that. But again [1:27:27, 1:27:31]: I think we all are in favor of improving. [1:27:32, 1:27:33]: Um [1:27:33, 1:27:34]: You know [1:27:34, 1:27:54]: uh uh mitigating, you know, the sound so it won't disturb outside. I I I don't think I think it's a no-brainer with that. And I think that we can all sort of weigh in after tonight and work with the city manager and work with everyone else to try to make that happen. I I don't think that's the issue. I think the issue and the reason why we came tonight was just [1:27:54, 1:27:55]: Yeah. [1:27:55, 1:27:58]: to adjust the closing time. [1:27:58, 1:28:01]: So with that being said, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to move [1:28:02, 1:28:06]: that we amend uh I'm not sure if it's if orness or resolution. [1:28:07, 1:28:13]: Uh but I like to motion that we do extend uh to eleven PM. [1:28:13, 1:28:20]: It's actually the uh admin amend section 11.26 of the stop bridge code of ordinances is what it is. [1:28:21, 1:28:27]: So I I I move then that we um uh extend that on this uh to eleven PM. [1:28:28, 1:28:29]: Or is there a second? [1:28:31, 1:28:32]: Is there a second? [1:28:33, 1:28:33]: Circuit. [1:28:34, 1:28:39]: Are you mayor pro cham a second that okay? We've had plenty of discussion. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:28:40, 1:28:43]: Uh Mayor, I I just wanted uh if you don't mind. [1:28:43, 1:28:52]: Yes, sir. I'm gonna abstain from voting because Mr. Knighton has said he's gonna give us a report on the things around the amphitheater. I think it's it's premature for me. [1:28:53, 1:29:13]: To vote for when I need to make sure that the things with the citizens pertaining to the citizens around that amphitheater are being taken care of before we start moving on anything. So I'm okay. Motion has been made, been second. All in favor of motion, please indicate one, two, three. All right, four, four, four, uh uh, and one of [1:29:13, 1:29:20]: staying 401 motion passed 11 o'clock it will be uh attorneys that is correct right we're good to go with that [1:29:22, 1:29:23]: Yes, so you're on. [1:29:23, 1:29:25]: Okay, appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you, Council. [1:29:26, 1:29:46]: Council consideration to approve task order number 35 with Carter and Sloop for the wastewater treatment plant pole barn design in the amount of sixty two sixty-two thousand five hundred dollars. Funding source wastewater fund balance presented by Mr. Aaron and Brad Hosinger, water wastewater superintendent. [1:29:46, 1:29:46]: Okay. [1:29:46, 1:29:47]: Gentlemen, please. [1:29:48, 1:29:53]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. I'll let Mr. Holt Singer speak to this project. [1:29:54, 1:30:09]: Uh thank you, Mayor and Council, for hearing this. Uh this is for a hundred, this all this will take place at the wastewater treatment plant, but it's a pole barn that's going to be constructed. It's 150 foot long by 50 foot deep. [1:30:09, 1:30:29]: And it's also we have an existing pu pretty big pole barn that we're going to enclose. And uh the purpose of enclosing it is some of this equipment that we've recently bought needs to be uh kept below freezing, so we say, kept above freezing. [1:30:30, 1:30:50]: And that's one way to keep that done. And as far as the other pole barn, we've purchased lately a lot of expensive equipment. And this is keep it out of weather. It's not to me, the equipment doesn't wear out by use, it wears out by weather. And this would extend the life of a bunch of [1:30:50, 1:30:55]: bunch of equipment by a lot, by double its life, if not more. [1:30:56, 1:30:59]: Okay. Council, any quite Mr. Barber, Ms. Barber, go right in, please. [1:31:00, 1:31:06]: Wanted to ask Mr. Knighton, is this something that would be reimbursable under the ARPA? [1:31:10, 1:31:18]: I I don't think it would be based on the ARPA funds. The ARPA fund speaks specifically to water sewer, wastewater. [1:31:18, 1:31:25]: Stormwater infrastructure type items, we water lines, sewer lines, stormwater apparatus, things of that nature. So [1:31:25, 1:31:31]: I don't think that would be uh in this event for a pole barn that would not be directly related to [1:31:32, 1:31:37]: You know, water sewer lines, uh, storm water infrastructure, pipes and things of that nature. [1:31:38, 1:31:39]: Okay, thank you. [1:31:40, 1:31:43]: Any other questions for the council for Mr. Holzinger or Mr. Eric? [1:31:45, 1:31:49]: If not, council need a motion to accept the proposal. [1:31:51, 1:31:52]: Is there a motion? [1:31:54, 1:31:55]: I moved. [1:31:56, 1:31:59]: Ms. Barber, thank you very much. Motion's been made. Is it a second? [1:32:00, 1:32:01]: Sorry. A second. [1:32:01, 1:32:05]: Okay, well, I think I got Mayor Pro Tem on that one first, Mayor. Okay. [1:32:06, 1:32:10]: And of course yeah, I was gonna say any further questions? Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [1:32:10, 1:32:15]: I don't I I didn't see uh where is that where the finding for that is coming from? [1:32:15, 1:32:19]: Says wastewater fund balance. It says okay, I didn't see it on the um [1:32:19, 1:32:22]: Yeah, funding source waste water fund balance. [1:32:23, 1:32:24]: Southlander. [1:32:28, 1:32:32]: Okay, it didn't come through on the this device that says that. Okay, I'm I'm fine with the mayor. [1:32:33, 1:32:43]: Can I ask one other question real quick? Go right in, please. Uh as we anticipate and hopefully the infrastructure bill had passed, we'll talk about an overall concept comprehensive plan. [1:32:43, 1:32:50]: about the water, wastewater in the sewer. Are we are we gonna be shovel ready when if should that [1:32:51, 1:32:59]: come to fruition and and we get the infrastructure money. Are we gonna be ready to to move forward? And we got ARPA money that we can use for it as well, right? [1:33:01, 1:33:03]: Yes, sir. We will be ready to go. [1:33:05, 1:33:05]: Thank you. [1:33:07, 1:33:13]: Any other questions? And if not, motions is made, then seconded. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:33:13, 1:33:14]: [5594.9, 5598.5]: Okay, I have a unanimous decision. Okay, appreciate it. Thank you very much. [1:33:19, 1:33:23]: Council consideration to approve site engineering to raise fifty eight [1:33:24, 1:33:36]: manholes throughout the city an amount of$98,000,$98,300. Funding source, once again, wastewater fund balance. Mr. Aaron and Mr. Brad Brad, Holsinger, please. [1:33:36, 1:33:55]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. This is one of the issues that we get a lot of complaints about, especially on North Henry Boulevard of cars dodging manholes and things like that, damaging their cars. So we've got manholes throughout the city on streets that need to be raised. And I'll let Brad, if he has any comments. [1:33:56, 1:34:16]: Yes, but there's uh I believe we've counted there's 24 manholes on 42. I'm sure everybody that's drove has a car has hit at least one of them. Uh besides that them being need to be raised, another reason is for we don't have access to them to [1:34:16, 1:34:32]: if there was a sewer back up we would need to get to the sewer lines. So that's another reason for this expenditure. And the remaining there was 58 of them, 24 of them on 42, and the rest of them is just scattered through Stockbridge on side streets. [1:34:33, 1:34:53]: Okay, question for you, gentlemen. I'm I'm assuming that when you raise them, you're making raise them to be level with the pavement. Otherwise sunken. Correct. Correct. Yes, sir. Sunken. So otherwise cars hit them and go under, go down and then come back up as they travel through. Okay. So you're raising to be level with the surface. All right. Yeah, some some of them are actually just covered with asphalt and uh [1:34:53, 1:35:01]: Would it would be hard w if we'd have to get into it, we'd have to chisel the asphalt up and then would there would be even a bigger hole there. [1:35:02, 1:35:10]: Okay. Council, any questions for these gentlemen? Uh Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. Mayor, uh, I got ninety-three three. You said ninety-eight three. [1:35:12, 1:35:15]: I have ninety I have ninety eight three. [1:35:15, 1:35:21]: Nine, that's what I says in front of me. No, that's 9833. Okay, what Dallin, what's the correct number? [1:35:23, 1:35:24]: Mr. Aaron. [1:35:24, 1:35:27]: Well, let me look at my paperwork. Uh [1:35:32, 1:35:33]: Did somebody send an amended? [1:35:34, 1:35:38]: um agenda because even you're showing the wastewater [1:35:38, 1:35:40]: budget and it's not showing on what it was sent to me. [1:35:41, 1:35:47]: Is that was that an amended one sent or something? I would say it's probably an updated one, yes. Probably in this case. [1:35:47, 1:35:50]: Ninety eight three. Nine eight three. [1:35:51, 1:35:53]: Is anybody else seeing ninety three three? [1:35:57, 1:36:01]: I don't know. It shows as ninety-three three on the agenda. [1:36:01, 1:36:02]: Yeah. [1:36:04, 1:36:10]: Yeah. I think I gotta revise the agenda, ladies and gentlemen. I'm sorry about that. [1:36:11, 1:36:12]: Department. [1:36:13, 1:36:19]: But the staff recommendation form has a different number. It's the ninety-eight. It's the ninety-eight three. [1:36:20, 1:36:27]: Okay. Uh if not any any more questions, Mr. Mayor Pro Sam, go ahead, please. [1:36:28, 1:36:31]: Now this is you said this was for Highway 42, correct? [1:36:32, 1:36:39]: Highway forty two and side streets. Okay. And uh I guess uh forty two is uh [1:36:40, 1:36:45]: The manholes uh if you want to know the location, the manholes are from [1:36:45, 1:36:47]: Just above Ed's pawn shop. [1:36:48, 1:36:53]: All the all the way back toward Walmart to Right. Well, I'm sorry to [1:36:54, 1:36:55]: Shield road. [1:36:56, 1:37:16]: Right. Now those are the ones that I dodge. So I don't know what I just want to make sure sometimes I will say that some of them that need raising are not city manholes or other utilities, whether that be ATT, electric, um gas, but and we won't touch those. [1:37:16, 1:37:19]: Those that's their property. [1:37:19, 1:37:37]: Well, I guess I get a confused sometimes. We call it Highway 138, then we call it Highway 42. I think it's both of them, right? So in the end, but in the end, this is a state maintained highway. Can we seek these funds from the state? Because this is something that they should be taking care of, right? [1:37:39, 1:37:45]: I I defer that to Mr. Aaron. With it being our infrastructure, we'd be responsible for our infrastructure. [1:37:48, 1:37:54]: The state grants you permission to put infrastructure in there right away, but you're responsible for maintaining that infrastructure. [1:37:56, 1:37:57]: Okay, wow, okay. [1:37:58, 1:38:04]: The only involvement G Dot would have is if they were resurfacing the road, they would raise those manholes. [1:38:07, 1:38:10]: All right. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:38:10, 1:38:11]: Yes, uh [1:38:12, 1:38:13]: Mr. Aaron. [1:38:14, 1:38:16]: How how much of this work will [1:38:17, 1:38:20]: Um general maintenance. [1:38:20, 1:38:23]: uh be doing on this project. [1:38:24, 1:38:29]: This is a a this is a sewer department project. It's not a general maintenance project. [1:38:29, 1:38:30]: Okay. [1:38:30, 1:38:32]: No, um [1:38:32, 1:38:37]: So it is this is this and and I this is where I'm really going with this and um [1:38:39, 1:38:40]: Um [1:38:41, 1:38:50]: I know it's infrastructure, but this is where I'm sort of going with this. When when when when I look at the public works department, and I know I'm sort of going um [1:38:51, 1:38:55]: Um, I guess around the mountain or a long a long ways with this. [1:38:56, 1:39:00]: And and what I I try to expound on and and try to get [1:39:01, 1:39:01]: Um [1:39:01, 1:39:04]: My councilmates and citizens as well. [1:39:04, 1:39:12]: Is that you know one of the roles and obligation of elected body is not only to excuse me, not only to [1:39:13, 1:39:14]: Legislate [1:39:15, 1:39:17]: And to create policies and procedure. [1:39:17, 1:39:21]: But I think we are tasked also with uh effectiveness. [1:39:22, 1:39:23]: And efficiency. [1:39:23, 1:39:28]: And you know, uh the last time we met, I asked a question about training. [1:39:29, 1:39:33]: For uh employees there at uh public works. [1:39:34, 1:39:49]: And so this is where I'm sort of going. I I do understand, you know, the department where this is in, but I I my overall concern, and I know I may be off subject somewhat, but it's just been a concern of mine about the the the the capabilities. [1:39:49, 1:39:53]: and the kind of folks that we are hiring in public works. [1:39:53, 1:39:57]: with uh certain kind of skill sets. [1:39:57, 1:40:03]: Now and I know that, you know, when we talk about state highways and and those kind of thing. [1:40:04, 1:40:07]: I think for us and I know for me as an elective body [1:40:08, 1:40:11]: The bottom line for me is just getting the job done. [1:40:11, 1:40:29]: Uh, you know, if it takes coordinating with uh state, if it takes coordinating with Henry County, if it takes coordinating with Clayton County, the bottom line for us elected f uh officials here is just getting it the job done. Now I hadn't mentioned this, but I I tell you, in that middle lane. [1:40:30, 1:40:32]: Um, oh North Henry. [1:40:32, 1:40:36]: Uh that at the light at Walmart and 130 A. [1:40:37, 1:40:39]: There are some droppings of um [1:40:40, 1:40:42]: Um concrete or [1:40:42, 1:40:43]: Black turret something. [1:40:44, 1:40:50]: And and it's just been there for a while. And and I've always wanted to say something about that. I mean [1:40:51, 1:40:56]: It almost tears your car up. Now, even when some construction was done on North Henry. [1:40:56, 1:40:57]: And there are plates. [1:40:58, 1:40:59]: That are still there. [1:41:00, 1:41:05]: And and I know I'm going a little off off bound with this, Mr. Aaron, but [1:41:05, 1:41:09]: What I'd like to see from uh my public works director. [1:41:10, 1:41:11]: is to [1:41:12, 1:41:13]: Бі проактив. [1:41:14, 1:41:16]: And to get some of these things done. [1:41:16, 1:41:18]: Uh without [1:41:19, 1:41:20]: We raising the alarm. [1:41:21, 1:41:25]: Um, cause we're all about efficiency. [1:41:25, 1:41:27]: Ефективнес [1:41:27, 1:41:28]: An improving [1:41:29, 1:41:30]: And let me emphasize that. [1:41:31, 1:41:32]: improving [1:41:33, 1:41:41]: the quality of life for all of our citizens here in Style Group. D this is sort of where I'm going. And and I appreciate that this issue is coming [1:41:41, 1:41:43]: Uh about the manhole cover. [1:41:43, 1:41:47]: Because this has been a concern of a lot of folk for a long time. [1:41:48, 1:41:54]: And so I'm I'm glad to see it coming and I know there's been a lot of criticism. So I'm not taking that from you. [1:41:55, 1:41:59]: Um as as long as we can get it done. But I just want to take this opportunity. [1:41:59, 1:42:01]: Just to talk about [1:42:01, 1:42:03]: Um hiring [1:42:03, 1:42:14]: capabilities of employees, whether it's general maintenance, whether it's in so it doesn't matter as long as you know these employees are in public work. And and I'm saying this just to say [1:42:14, 1:42:24]: Um, you know, we're getting ready to go into a budget retreat. And so these are going to be some issues that are going to be raised as far as um, you know. [1:42:24, 1:42:43]: qualifications and qualified employees to do a number of of tasks, um, being able to cut tree limbs, maybe not necessarily over the power lines. I know we have a bucket truck, but just some things that we just need to talk about uh improving. [1:42:44, 1:42:58]: improving our capabilities, not only in public work, it's throughout all departments here at the city. And and and I'm just saying for me, this is where I am as far as making sure that this municipality [1:42:58, 1:43:04]: improve the quality of life of all of our citizens. So I guess this is just a um [1:43:04, 1:43:06]: I guess I'm just speaking to [1:43:07, 1:43:17]: What would be coming from me? Let me just put it that way. But I do appreciate we are looking at these manhole covers. It is a problem. So I just want to take this opportunity just to to [1:43:17, 1:43:26]: uh you know, preach a little sermon. So uh when I get ready to get into the pulpit at at the um budget retreat, you'll you'll know where I'm coming from. Thank you, sir. [1:43:27, 1:43:29]: No problem. Uh Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:43:31, 1:43:46]: Okay, and I'm sorry, uh Mr. Aaron and Mr. Holt Senter Singer and Mr. Knighton. Every time that I see a item on the agenda for public public works um involving water, sewer, [1:43:46, 1:43:52]: wastewater treatment, I'm going to ask, is this reimbursable through the ARPA? [1:43:53, 1:43:53]: Funding. [1:43:55, 1:44:15]: I don't think this qualifies since this is not considered infrastructure. This is just uh preventive and routine maintenance. But the projects that are eligible, we have a spreadsheet of projects we have submitted to the treasurer, and we will be tracking those for reimbursement, which are actually infrastructure projects. Okay, this is not routine. [1:44:15, 1:44:17]: This is not routine. [1:44:17, 1:44:20]: You don't routinely raise manholes. [1:44:21, 1:44:36]: Yes, ma'am, you do, because periodically manholes get paid over sometimes and sometimes they settle during the roles. Like sometimes you have rolls settled, dips and potholes end up in rolls, so you have to raise manhole. Those are routine things. [1:44:36, 1:44:41]: So we checked to make sure that this was not reimbursable. [1:44:41, 1:44:42]: We do not. [1:44:42, 1:44:45]: It meant is not is not considered infrastructure. [1:44:46, 1:44:48]: infrastructure is actually putting types and [1:44:49, 1:44:52]: a sort of apparatus that's in the ground or into service. [1:44:53, 1:44:54]: One if if I may [1:44:56, 1:44:57]: Great. [1:44:57, 1:45:03]: Yeah. One of the things that you know we want to make sure that we continue to as d as Mr. Aaron said and tracked is [1:45:03, 1:45:06]: The projects that are eligible for [1:45:06, 1:45:13]: The ARPA funds. One of the things that did happen just from guidance from GMA just a couple of weeks ago. [1:45:14, 1:45:20]: was the concern that they raised about holding still on some things because because the [1:45:21, 1:45:28]: The federal government, the Department of Treasury, still is providing guidance on how ARPA funds can be used. [1:45:28, 1:45:32]: And so even though the federal government has provided this money. [1:45:32, 1:45:34]: Which we have received a portion of it. [1:45:34, 1:45:54]: Half of it, the Department of Treasury is still giving more information on specifically how they can be used. And so what we've done so far is use a strict definition of infrastructure, be it water, sewer, stormwater, et cetera, because we know that can be used for those reimbursement funds. And so as the Department of Treasury [1:45:54, 1:46:02]: continues to give us more information and guidance. Obviously, if we need to expand and utilize those funds, we certainly will. [1:46:02, 1:46:05]: And so that's it we're kind of in this place where [1:46:05, 1:46:08]: Again, uh even via GMA, just to you know [1:46:09, 1:46:14]: couple of weeks ago, they're still saying the Department of Treasury is giving more interpretation on how funds can be used. [1:46:17, 1:46:18]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please, sir. [1:46:20, 1:46:29]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Uh Mr. Aaron, I mean, I'm I'm I'm ready to for us to move forward with this, but uh one last question. [1:46:29, 1:46:31]: Uh site engineering. [1:46:31, 1:46:34]: What would they be doing that we don't have the capabilities to do? [1:46:35, 1:46:52]: Well, one of the things is that they can dedicate a crew specifically to that. If we were doing it ourselves, then if something else came up that took them away from this project, there are other daily tasks that the sewer department does like cleaning cleaning sewer lines, videotaping sewer lines that [1:46:52, 1:47:12]: Is being used to drive this rehabilitation of the sewer system. And it would take an extended period of time. They might be able to do one a week or one a month, depending on their other workload. But with this, these projects, you're going to have to have two flaggers because you're out in traffic and you only got five people in that department that works in collection. [1:47:12, 1:47:32]: collection. So you got the other three that they have daily tasks like checking on lift station, cleaning and videotaping sewer lines. So you take everybody away from their normal task to do this task. And like say some of these locations on two, you got crews out there in the street and that traffic, the faster that traffic moves. [1:47:32, 1:47:52]: I just don't want to see an employee in a compromising situation where they can potentially be injured or hurt, or even worse, when someone else have all the resources and tools that are needed to do these specialized jobs to complete this project. Well, uh I you know, I've done all types of various works growing up and they're called flag men. [1:47:52, 1:47:59]: called putting up cones and and all this stuff. What I'm saying is that you if you say you did one once a week. [1:47:59, 1:48:04]: Uh you're doing fifty-eight, so that means you'll get you'll get uh fifty-two done in a year. [1:48:04, 1:48:09]: So it's a grad is gradually doing and that would that save us ninety three thousand dollars? [1:48:10, 1:48:22]: No, sir, not that much because we still gotta do it and you're gonna have those guys out there dedicated to it when you take in effect their salaries and things of that sort. And a lot of times contractors have [1:48:22, 1:48:28]: Access to some things that we don't have, like concrete. We might be porn. [1:48:28, 1:48:32]: two yards of concrete, but if a contract is pouring 10 yards. [1:48:32, 1:48:47]: it they'll more likely get ten yards versus us trying to get two yards of concrete. So a lot of time it's supply and demand and also equipment and material. They have the equipment. We have to rent equipment to do certain things. So it just makes it [1:48:47, 1:48:49]: more favorable if they are doing it. [1:48:50, 1:48:52]: Well uh for for me, I'm looking at [1:48:53, 1:48:59]: I I'm not an engineer, I don't but but I know that building up a manhole is only is is cementing that's fault. [1:49:00, 1:49:02]: You know, and I'm just saying if if [1:49:03, 1:49:06]: I just look at so much that we're contracting out. [1:49:06, 1:49:10]: And you just said out of your own words, we may be able to get to one a week. [1:49:10, 1:49:13]: Well, on the progression of a year, that's fifty two out of the fifty eight. [1:49:14, 1:49:19]: But we're looking at going ahead and uh and and and paying out ninety-eight thousand dollars. [1:49:19, 1:49:23]: Almost a hundred thousand dollars for somebody else to do it when we're talking about [1:49:23, 1:49:25]: Traffic in cars. [1:49:25, 1:49:40]: Well, public works don't talk that kind of talk because we have flags and all this. I mean, any capacity that we're working on right away or anything, that could happen. Even people out there cutting the yard, that can happen. So that's to me, that's not, that's not even equ uh uh equated in this scenario. [1:49:40, 1:49:59]: But my my my thoughts is is that you've shown me that there's nothing that we can't do that they're going to be doing. And over a year's time, we can probably at least get 50, 52 of them done. Then why are we contracting almost$100,000 out for somebody else to do it when we have the capabilities of doing it? [1:49:59, 1:50:05]: This is what make I mean that don't make sense to me. And at this point it hadn't made sense to me for what you said. [1:50:06, 1:50:09]: But see if a contractor has the [1:50:09, 1:50:29]: access to supplies and equipment and and manpower and other resources, this project could go a lot faster and and will be done. And Brad, he doesn't have people that he can dedicate specifically to this because there are other things that come up just like the public work guys. They got to cut right away. They got to pick up litter. [1:50:29, 1:50:38]: They gotta do the other things. And if Brad had his guys out there, they were raising a manhole and they had a sore spill that he needed all his guys. [1:50:39, 1:50:59]: To respond to that spill, then they leave that location. If they started work on it, they got to leave that site open or in a certain condition to go unclog that sewer black back up. Then they got to come back to that. But it's just more efficient. It still costs about the same. But I just think with them having [1:50:59, 1:51:11]: having access to materials and equipment, the process would be a lot faster and a lot be a lot safer for these guys. Cause I would have some concerns if I had guys out on Highway 42, because I know when [1:51:11, 1:51:31]: Uh Atlanta Gas was doing their project down 42. Some of the issues they had, there was an accident there, somebody ran into one of their trucks and things like that. And uh that traffic on North Henry is pretty is pretty tough, especially around lunchtime during certain periods of days. And I just think from a safety standpoint, I don't want to ever put anybody in a position. [1:51:31, 1:51:35]: position that they feel unsafe or is it is unsafe. So [1:51:36, 1:51:51]: I mean, I I I get that, Mr. Aaron, but you know, I I just still have to say when it comes to public works, if that's your argument is safety. When it comes to public works, that's what they do. When you got people out there cutting the grass, when you got people out there doing cutting right-of-ways. [1:51:52, 1:52:12]: Public works, that's that's that's what they do. They do stuff pertaining to roads and right-of-aways, and this is the part of their job. This this is what their profession is, unless they want to try and transfer to somewhere else. But I'm just if the council wanna move forward, I'm fine. It just to me, it just seemed like if there's something that we can do. I don't know why we continue to convert. [1:52:12, 1:52:20]: Contracting this stuff out when it comes to public works. And I'm just trying to figure out: is it uh is there more employees need to be hired or what needs to be done? Because [1:52:20, 1:52:23]: What contract and work out to me when it comes to [1:52:23, 1:52:29]: Manhold covers uh if that's something we've done before and you said that we can get one done a week. [1:52:29, 1:52:34]: Uh when you're talking only concrete and asphalt to raise a manhole cover. [1:52:34, 1:52:38]: Why are we countr why are we contracting that out? It makes [1:52:38, 1:52:46]: It makes no sense to me, but I'm not, you know, I'm just not a supervisor. So it just makes no sense to me to contract ninety-eight uh thousand dollars. [1:52:46, 1:52:53]: to raise manhold covers on something that we can do and and the argument is that we don't want nobody getting hurt in traffic. [1:52:54, 1:52:57]: All right, uh councilman uh uh Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:52:57, 1:52:58]: Okay, uh [1:52:59, 1:53:01]: Mr. Aaron and and Brad, uh I [1:53:02, 1:53:07]: Bottom line, I I do appreciate that we're getting this done. You know, that's that's the bottom line. [1:53:07, 1:53:08]: There's a need. [1:53:09, 1:53:11]: And we need to get it done. That that's the bottom line. [1:53:12, 1:53:14]: But I but I think you know it it [1:53:14, 1:53:15]: If you hear us. [1:53:16, 1:53:17]: I think the conversation [1:53:18, 1:53:20]: It's centered around less [1:53:21, 1:53:22]: contracting out. [1:53:23, 1:53:26]: And having the capability to do [1:53:27, 1:53:29]: Um, in house, do our own. [1:53:30, 1:53:41]: So what what is the history? I understand that as you pave, especially North Hendam looking at the list, there are three side streets that are that are three. All the other streets are one and two. [1:53:42, 1:53:47]: Uh North Henry, there's twenty-four. And and I get that on North Henry. I know how that traffic is. [1:53:48, 1:53:48]: Um [1:53:49, 1:53:51]: But can you give us the history? [1:53:52, 1:53:53]: Oh [1:53:54, 1:53:56]: And I I know you only been here so many years. [1:53:57, 1:53:58]: But the history [1:53:58, 1:54:02]: Of the last time that these manhole cover was even raised. [1:54:03, 1:54:06]: Or is it the fact that we continue to [1:54:06, 1:54:11]: uh put layers and layers and layers of surfacing. [1:54:12, 1:54:15]: And that's why the manhole covers are going down and down. [1:54:16, 1:54:18]: So so to speak to the history [1:54:19, 1:54:21]: And and who used to do this work before? [1:54:21, 1:54:41]: Well but before, I believe the last time anything like this was done was probably I'm going way back, was 20 years ago. And it was right there at Rock Quarium 42. And some of the same one the city did them the cell, you know, did'em raised them itself and these same manholes. [1:54:41, 1:54:44]: need to be raised again because they weren't done right. [1:54:45, 1:55:00]: And I yeah, I don't want to throw any previous employees under the bus, you know, that when that was done, I don't even think was two of us is working here that's here now. Right, right. Uh but it wasn't done correctly then and [1:55:01, 1:55:03]: Raising manholes [1:55:04, 1:55:12]: You you got to have expertise in it. And my department does not have that expertise. We don't even have enough employees to do it. [1:55:13, 1:55:15]: I mean, I have five in collections. [1:55:15, 1:55:19]: If I put all five of them and myself, that's still not enough. [1:55:19, 1:55:21]: We just don't have enough. [1:55:21, 1:55:25]: Right. And plus I don't have the confidence that we can do it correctly. [1:55:26, 1:55:31]: Right. Well, let me let me just say this and I'm gonna move on. I I I I'm willing to uh [1:55:31, 1:55:34]: to approve this tonight because I know the bottom line [1:55:34, 1:55:36]: Uh there's a need. [1:55:36, 1:55:39]: Uh it's all about improving. [1:55:39, 1:55:43]: You know, that quality of life, you know, for all of our citizens, and you know. [1:55:43, 1:55:48]: North Henry is is that main artery, you know, for the city of Starkbridge and [1:55:48, 1:55:53]: We just need to chuck, you know, to correct correct that. But let me just say as I sort of spoke earlier. [1:55:54, 1:55:55]: Um [1:55:56, 1:55:58]: This municipality [1:55:59, 1:56:00]: In all departments. [1:56:02, 1:56:03]: We have to start looking at [1:56:04, 1:56:05]: Uh training. [1:56:06, 1:56:07]: and capabilities. [1:56:08, 1:56:11]: And I know when we are high folks. [1:56:12, 1:56:15]: And I know we may be talking long range, long term. [1:56:16, 1:56:18]: But we have to start somewhere. [1:56:18, 1:56:20]: In attracting [1:56:21, 1:56:23]: Employees [1:56:24, 1:56:26]: With certain skill sets. [1:56:26, 1:56:28]: Uh we just can't [1:56:28, 1:56:32]: bring folks in the only thing they could do is cut grass. [1:56:33, 1:56:45]: Uh but I know in Seward and now Bradden, you know this too. You you got folks that have been with you for a while. And I know, you know, you got skill set folks in in some of those areas. And that's the reason I sort of through our general mentioners. But [1:56:45, 1:56:48]: But I think at some point, Mr uh uh [1:56:48, 1:56:50]: Mr. Aaron and Mr. Nane in particular. [1:56:51, 1:56:53]: We're gonna have to draw the line somewhere. [1:56:54, 1:56:57]: And see how we can raise the bar. And I know [1:56:57, 1:57:00]: With all of these improvement it it comes money. [1:57:00, 1:57:03]: I know it comes salaries and those kind of things. [1:57:03, 1:57:05]: But at some point in time. [1:57:06, 1:57:09]: We're gonna have to draw the line and look at [1:57:09, 1:57:11]: Uh the whole [1:57:11, 1:57:13]: Public works staff. [1:57:14, 1:57:15]: And evaluate [1:57:16, 1:57:19]: Um the the quality of who we are heard. [1:57:19, 1:57:20]: And in and [1:57:20, 1:57:26]: See, you got to look at the job that's needed. Now, Brad, you just mentioned, you know, the job that was needed. [1:57:27, 1:57:33]: But then on the other side of the ledger, we don't have the capability of doing it. We don't have the manpower. We don't have a staff. [1:57:35, 1:57:39]: We got to we have to improve that now. It it's not gonna be done overnight. [1:57:39, 1:57:47]: Uh but this is something that we need to look forward to and work toward uh improving that. [1:57:47, 1:57:50]: Uh, for is when we have folks [1:57:50, 1:57:54]: Um their capabilities, what can they do? And then [1:57:55, 1:57:57]: You know, putting folks in training. [1:57:58, 1:58:06]: To acquire some of these skills and that's what I want to see coming out of public works, Mr. Aaron. I want to see that that that comprehensive. [1:58:06, 1:58:09]: planning to make these things so [1:58:09, 1:58:16]: Uh I may not be here, none of us may may not be here, but twenty twenty five years down the road from now. [1:58:16, 1:58:18]: This conversation should not be happening. [1:58:18, 1:58:21]: It should not be. So I'm just saying that to say [1:58:22, 1:58:25]: Let's start looking at long-term planning. [1:58:26, 1:58:27]: training and hiring. [1:58:28, 1:58:33]: I yield back, Mr. Mayor. Oh no problem. Appreciate it. Uh any other com [1:58:33, 1:58:35]: Mr. Blount, you got another comment? [1:58:35, 1:58:40]: Okay. I'm ready to prove that we use on site uh to uh [1:58:40, 1:58:48]: You ready to make a motion, sir? Go ahead. Go ahead and make your motion, sir. That we use the on-site uh company to uh replace the fifty eight man hole. [1:58:48, 1:58:50]: Okay, is there a second to motion? [1:58:50, 1:58:51]: A second. [1:58:51, 1:58:53]: Okay scan seconds at any further discussion. [1:58:54, 1:58:56]: If not all in favor, please indicate. [1:58:57, 1:59:17]: Okay, and uh okay. Appreciate it, Council. All right, great council. No problem. Council consideration to TSW Incorporated Architectural On Call Services for the City of Stockbridge number 22. Project assignment agreement for the Cultural Arts Center Design, Construction Documents, and Construction Administration. [1:59:18, 1:59:25]: in the amount of one million one hundred and sixty four thousand four hundred and sixty one dollars funding source bond and splots five. [1:59:25, 1:59:27]: Mr. Knighton, please. [1:59:27, 1:59:31]: Uh yes, Mayor and Council. I'll I'll begin the discussion. Of course, Heather Hubble is here who you [1:59:32, 1:59:34]: Uh Noel with TSW. [1:59:35, 1:59:39]: One this item is being brought forward in conjunction with previous approvals. [1:59:40, 1:59:42]: That the mayoring council had made earlier this year. [1:59:43, 1:59:46]: Uh you agree to bond on certain funds for [1:59:46, 2:00:06]: Uh, the amphitheater project. Uh, that total of the overall project would be$18 million. That was approved by the mayor and council. And so we were charged with moving the project forward for the Cultural Arts Center. I know Ms. Hubble will kind of go over a couple of schematics for the benefit of the public with the cultural [2:00:06, 2:00:09]: Art Center, so I'll I'll yield to her in just a moment. [2:00:09, 2:00:19]: But again, this is based on the council's approval, uh,$18 million for the Cultural Arts Center. Obviously, the TSW is the city's architect and would have to develop. [2:00:20, 2:00:23]: The design development plans and all the way through construction documents. [2:00:24, 2:00:25]: Uh to be ready to bid. [2:00:26, 2:00:27]: Афо консуль. [2:00:27, 2:00:32]: The um amount that you see there is proposed to take them through the completion. [2:00:33, 2:00:34]: Of the project. [2:00:34, 2:00:39]: One point one uh six four million dollars would be inclusive of [2:00:40, 2:00:44]: The eighteen million dollars that the council has authorized. [2:00:44, 2:00:47]: Again, this is from a previous council approval. [2:00:48, 2:00:49]: What was it like? [2:00:50, 2:00:58]: Mayor, I don't I don't have those numbers on the on the paperwork I was sent. It's uh on my agenda part of the amounts. [2:00:59, 2:01:03]: Um, I don't know if any other council member had it, but I don't have it on mine. [2:01:04, 2:01:07]: Well uh okay, I'm sorry about that, but uh what it is is [2:01:08, 2:01:13]: It's on the staff recommendation form, Councilman Blount. [2:01:17, 2:01:30]: Okay. Staff the staff recommendation form and the document that TSW provided. Yeah, there's but I would like in the future, I would like those numbers to be on the agenda piece because the citizens see the agenda. [2:01:31, 2:01:38]: And if those numbers on the agenda, they're they're more than aware of what's on the agenda part that is sent to us. If they want to see the agenda, [2:01:39, 2:01:43]: and what's at stake and what's at hand and what amounts that are gonna be presented and talked about. [2:01:44, 2:01:47]: That needs to be those numbers need to be on the the on the agenda. [2:01:48, 2:01:49]: Mayor Pamet. [2:01:49, 2:01:57]: Yes, yes, ma'am. We'll share that information with the department heads because they are now uploading their own documents. Councilman Blount into the [2:01:57, 2:02:09]: system and it's no longer the clerk's office, but we'll share that information. Thank you. Absolutely. I mean that for all of the information in the doc in uh any amounts, they certainly should be and can be placed on the agenda. Absolutely. [2:02:09, 2:02:10]: Okay, Mr. Thomas Grace, uh [2:02:11, 2:02:16]: I I I wanted to to get this question in um before Mrs. Hubble uh come in and [2:02:16, 2:02:20]: Good to see you again, uh, Mrs. Hobel. Uh and thank you for coming. [2:02:21, 2:02:26]: Um I I spoke to Mr. Knight um a little time ago about um [2:02:26, 2:02:28]: That's this particular issue. [2:02:29, 2:02:33]: And and and and it sort of goes back to my last comment about [2:02:33, 2:02:36]: Eficiency and ефективнеus. [2:02:36, 2:02:43]: Now I would say, Mr. Nine, I want you to confirm this. I think we learned a lot from [2:02:43, 2:02:46]: Конструктінді ампотетер. [2:02:46, 2:02:50]: I think we we we we recognize some of the pitfall. [2:02:50, 2:02:52]: Some of the challenges. [2:02:52, 2:02:57]: So forth and so on, some of the change orders and all those kind of things. [2:02:57, 2:03:02]: So would you say then that this item here this evening? [2:03:03, 2:03:04]: Usana. Tim. [2:03:05, 2:03:09]: To minimize and I think you spoke very well that this is not [2:03:10, 2:03:11]: Additional [2:03:12, 2:03:12]: Funds. [2:03:13, 2:03:15]: But it is defined within the eighteen million. [2:03:16, 2:03:20]: But but you are sort of challenging or directing [2:03:20, 2:03:22]: A certain amount of money to [2:03:23, 2:03:29]: to improve, I would say, a focus in I would say and make sure that [2:03:29, 2:03:32]: Uh the efficiency and ефективness of [2:03:33, 2:03:35]: Actually building the cultural arts. [2:03:36, 2:03:40]: Is a little bit more uh um uh i in line. [2:03:40, 2:03:42]: To make sure that um [2:03:42, 2:03:50]: uh you know that the project is gonna sort of go well and I and I guess and if you will is this some somewhat of a [2:03:50, 2:03:52]: Project manager. [2:03:52, 2:03:55]: That will be designated to make sure that [2:03:55, 2:03:58]: Um all of these things go well. [2:03:58, 2:04:02]: And that um the so called project manager would not have to [2:04:03, 2:04:20]: uh continue to come back and forth to get approval from the councils. So everything is within that scope. And I'm and I'm going back to efficiency and and effectiveness. So it am I correct uh in in my assumption of what this is? [2:04:21, 2:04:25]: Well, right. We we are attempting to bring this forward to you. [2:04:26, 2:04:30]: Um one item the f this item with TSW and then the the pre the next item. [2:04:31, 2:04:35]: With Kekken Wood um to uh account for their services. [2:04:36, 2:04:41]: for the completion, start to completion of the Cultural Arts Center project from start to finish. [2:04:42, 2:04:47]: Another uh part of this that we have discussed, Miss Hubble and Mr. Trevathan have discussed. [2:04:48, 2:04:54]: Is using a little bit different method when we go out to bid, ultimately go out to bid, which is construction manager at risk. [2:04:54, 2:04:56]: Um scenario [2:04:56, 2:05:03]: Which provides a greater and more detailed um defining of ultimate project costs. [2:05:03, 2:05:09]: To make sure that we stick with that, of course, eighteen million dollars which has been prescribed, and that gives us greater certainty. [2:05:10, 2:05:14]: Of what those costs would be on the back end as construction manager at risk. [2:05:14, 2:05:16]: scenario that we have discussed as well. [2:05:17, 2:05:24]: And so we're trying to obviously um we have a mandate from the council to stay within that um 18 million dollars. [2:05:25, 2:05:27]: And we're taking these steps to make sure. [2:05:27, 2:05:29]: That that does happen. [2:05:29, 2:05:33]: And we mitigate any risks or any um additional costs. [2:05:34, 2:05:35]: Thank you. [2:05:36, 2:05:38]: All right, uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:05:40, 2:05:43]: Um, I'll hold my question to the next item. Sorry. [2:05:44, 2:05:44]: All right. [2:05:44, 2:05:45]: Mr. Bl [2:05:46, 2:05:50]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. Thank you, Mayor. Uh for me, um [2:05:51, 2:05:55]: Whether it's the culture art center, whatever project we have, if there's an amount set. [2:05:56, 2:06:00]: Uh and there's gonna be expenditures heading toward that amount. [2:06:00, 2:06:09]: I would like for that to come like we've been doing, come to Mayor and Council. Because if we if anybody ever come to us and say we're out of money, we need to do a change order, how will we know? [2:06:10, 2:06:12]: How we know this correct because [2:06:12, 2:06:16]: If we don't know what's being sp we should be able to tell each citizen what we're spending money on. [2:06:18, 2:06:21]: You know, what this going to and what's that's going to, in my opinion. [2:06:21, 2:06:24]: If any other council members don't want to do it, that's up to them. [2:06:24, 2:06:32]: But if we say eighteen million dollars and you need to spend uh five hundred and thirty tho uh five point four million on something or whatever, I would like. [2:06:32, 2:06:35]: To know what is that m what that money's going towards. [2:06:35, 2:06:38]: Because we you know, I I I just like the progression. [2:06:39, 2:06:44]: of projects and that's what we've always been saying that we ought we want to hit a progression of projects. [2:06:44, 2:06:45]: What is that is that [2:06:45, 2:06:48]: Because of of beard, is that financially also? [2:06:49, 2:06:55]: Because we need to know where we are when we when we hit the amphitheater and hit all the unsuitable soils and had to do all these change orders. [2:06:55, 2:06:56]: Not one of us knew. [2:06:57, 2:07:00]: Not one of us we we thought everything was covered. [2:07:01, 2:07:02]: But it wasn't. [2:07:02, 2:07:08]: We even at a point now we're still doing expenditures on the amphitheater because we haven't done everything we said that we're supposed to be doing. [2:07:09, 2:07:14]: So I for me, I like to know where uh financially where any project is at. [2:07:16, 2:07:16]: Yeah. [2:07:17, 2:07:19]: Ms. Bobber, do you have your hand up there? [2:07:21, 2:07:21]: Um [2:07:21, 2:07:33]: My question is in regards to the following item, which is uh Kankinwoods and the professional services. Well while we wait till we get there, we'll get there. Why don't you wait? I'm sorry. [2:07:34, 2:07:37]: Yeah, hold on. We'll get to that point. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [2:07:38, 2:07:43]: You know, I just want to take this opportunity to shine some light on TSW. [2:07:43, 2:07:46]: You know, Miss Hubble, you're brilliant, okay. [2:07:47, 2:07:50]: Let me just say that you guys are brilliant. [2:07:50, 2:07:51]: And [2:07:51, 2:07:54]: You capture the imagination. [2:07:54, 2:07:57]: Of the council and the vision. [2:07:57, 2:08:00]: And what you did with the amphitheater. [2:08:01, 2:08:04]: Everybody is marbling over. Can I just [2:08:05, 2:08:08]: Give you a round of applause for the work that you do. [2:08:08, 2:08:10]: We could not have chosen a better [2:08:11, 2:08:15]: uh arch a firm in order to design it and the work that you're doing now. [2:08:16, 2:08:18]: On the Kerry May Hamburg Cultural Arts Center. [2:08:18, 2:08:20]: It's phenomenal. [2:08:20, 2:08:27]: What we ha what we have in the synergy between the city and you all is absolutely amazing. [2:08:27, 2:08:29]: And when when you [2:08:30, 2:08:34]: put this together and you took the clay and you kind of molded it. [2:08:34, 2:08:45]: And then it came out the other side. Look at what look at it's it's just it's just so you I couldn't have just I couldn't have dreamed that you would have done the job that you did. [2:08:46, 2:08:50]: I think at some point I'm gonna say it right now. I want this council to give y'all an award. [2:08:51, 2:08:56]: for the work that you've been doing for the city because it's that extraordinary. [2:08:56, 2:08:59]: And you know, I don't I don't I don't just dish out. [2:08:59, 2:09:10]: They know that I don't dish out plastic strokes. So when I'm out here saying this work that you're doing is best in class and transformational, it is because other [2:09:11, 2:09:28]: cities and firms and regions are looking at the work that you're doing and they're saying, oh my goodness, I don't have nothing but praise to say that. And I say I want to be the one to lead this, to do something special for the TSW for the work that they're doing, because they deserve it. [2:09:29, 2:09:38]: Well, I appreciate that. I'm pretty sure Ms. Hubbard does too. Now on that note, maybe we'll give her an opportunity to go ahead and brief us on exactly what she was here to do at this point. [2:09:38, 2:09:40]: Okay. Miss Hubble, please. [2:09:40, 2:09:47]: Sure thing. Well well thank you for the kind words. And um I'm ready to do it again. Let's do it with the art center as well. [2:09:47, 2:09:51]: Um, so I have just seven slides for you this evening. [2:09:51, 2:09:55]: And it is geared to kind of explaining this fee. [2:09:55, 2:09:58]: Um, I don't put a fee like that out there. Um [2:09:58, 2:09:59]: Lightly. [2:09:59, 2:10:06]: Uh, you know, we are doing what we can to pinch pennies and make sure you get the best value without sacrificing the design. [2:10:06, 2:10:08]: So I'm gonna share my screen. [2:10:26, 2:10:27]: Okay. [2:10:28, 2:10:40]: So the fee you have before you uh is to take uh the court the cultural arts center that you see here in the rendering um from what we've only done to date, which is concept, which is just [2:10:41, 2:10:44]: Архітектур та програмін то. [2:10:44, 2:10:44]: Um [2:10:45, 2:10:47]: The thітер guys have been involved. [2:10:48, 2:10:53]: Of course, they're the designers of the uh Sylvia beard in um [2:10:54, 2:10:55]: Uh Buford. [2:10:55, 2:11:03]: Um, so they have helped with this. We've also talked about this with stakeholders. We've moved around, we've made it as an efficient building as we can. [2:11:04, 2:11:09]: So the fee you have is to take you from where we are right now, which is just concept and program. [2:11:09, 2:11:14]: all the way through the end of construction for professional fees and for the design team. [2:11:16, 2:11:21]: Um, this is this is the plan that we're currently working on. Um, we talked about it back in March. [2:11:22, 2:11:26]: Uh it has, you know, the theater as the centerpiece of the project. [2:11:27, 2:11:34]: Uh it has the gallery and the museum that we've talked about, as well as the kind of gathering space for the entry, which you see in red. [2:11:35, 2:11:36]: has the flexible theater. [2:11:36, 2:11:39]: And all the support areas you see in blue. [2:11:39, 2:11:46]: uh that would be required to bring in traveling shows. So that's really the key key point of this. [2:11:47, 2:11:47]: facility. [2:11:48, 2:11:50]: Um it also upstairs has [2:11:51, 2:11:53]: Um the ballroom. [2:11:53, 2:11:53]: Then [2:11:54, 2:11:59]: matches the seating capacity of the theater. So there can be a dine and [2:11:59, 2:11:59]: Show [2:12:00, 2:12:01]: uh type of [2:12:01, 2:12:03]: presentation made, uh [2:12:03, 2:12:04]: And sell tickets for. [2:12:05, 2:12:09]: Um and then the purple you see on the left is, you know, an office suite. [2:12:10, 2:12:13]: Uh there is room programmed for kitchen here. [2:12:13, 2:12:15]: Um it can be a full commercial kitchen. [2:12:16, 2:12:19]: Uh, if we so choose and there's professional fees to support that. [2:12:21, 2:12:22]: Um [2:12:22, 2:12:25]: Here's the site plan that's included in this fee. [2:12:25, 2:12:31]: Uh it has both the parking, it has all the engineering that will be needed for detention or retention. [2:12:31, 2:12:35]: Um it has the design of the water runners. [2:12:35, 2:12:36]: uh out front. [2:12:36, 2:12:41]: as well as all the green space. So everything that's in color here is included in this professional fee. [2:12:44, 2:12:47]: Uh and then I wanted to talk about the consultant. So [2:12:48, 2:12:55]: Um, with the amphitheater, you know, it is an outside facility. A lot of those spaces are exterior, so it requires less. [2:12:55, 2:13:03]: uh engineering and less design consultants. Here we have an in a completely indoor performing arts venue. [2:13:03, 2:13:06]: Um, and so it does require some more consultants. [2:13:06, 2:13:09]: А те топ рою сіхі. [2:13:10, 2:13:11]: Um are [2:13:11, 2:13:14]: The consultants that were involved in the amphitheater. [2:13:14, 2:13:16]: Uh these guys did a great job. [2:13:17, 2:13:20]: Um, and they'll do a great job for this facility as well. [2:13:20, 2:13:21]: Uh [2:13:21, 2:13:22]: In addition [2:13:22, 2:13:26]: The bottom row of consultants have been added this time. [2:13:26, 2:13:29]: Um, we are using a different land surveyor. [2:13:29, 2:13:31]: Uh so Valentino is doing that. [2:13:31, 2:13:35]: And we are using a different structural engineer. This is Davison Church. [2:13:35, 2:13:42]: Um, they are a little different from stability engineering. We like both of those engineering groups. We use them both a lot. [2:13:42, 2:13:48]: Uh but Davidson Church is ideal for this building, which is going to be a two-story steel structure with some complicated steel. [2:13:48, 2:13:50]: Potentially for balconies. [2:13:51, 2:13:51]: Um [2:13:52, 2:13:52]: They [2:13:53, 2:13:59]: uh have done our engineering on the Gwinnette Snellville Library and Business Building, which is just now coming uh under construction. [2:14:00, 2:14:03]: So I feel very confident with them and they are the right partner for this job. [2:14:04, 2:14:06]: Um, we also do need to have a fountain designer. [2:14:07, 2:14:10]: So we're recommending um standard aquatics. [2:14:10, 2:14:16]: Um and the reason being um a lot of the retention and detention that's been done for the amphitheater and the sprays. [2:14:17, 2:14:19]: Those don't allow folks to really get into them. [2:14:20, 2:14:27]: Uh, this runnel in front, we think that there is the potential that kids could play in it, that it's not just a beautiful thing, but that's something that [2:14:27, 2:14:30]: uh we need to plan for it to be interacted with so [2:14:30, 2:14:32]: That's why the fountain designer is on the team. [2:14:33, 2:14:37]: Also interior designer, um focus design uh [2:14:38, 2:14:40]: Is very compatible with T S W [2:14:40, 2:14:43]: Course for the amphitheater there were more minimal interiors. [2:14:43, 2:14:51]: But for a facility of this caliber and what the city really wants to do, we wanted to add the interior designer to supplement what TSW does in this case. [2:14:52, 2:14:56]: The the um the theater guys I mentioned, they're Graham and Swift. [2:14:56, 2:15:02]: Uh and they did uh design um the theater that the council likes most. So [2:15:02, 2:15:03]: We went out um [2:15:03, 2:15:05]: Talk to them, search them. [2:15:05, 2:15:09]: The council has done some pre uh programming uh [2:15:09, 2:15:12]: workshops in the past with them. So you've already been introduced to these folks. [2:15:13, 2:15:14]: They're great. They know theaters. [2:15:14, 2:15:18]: backwards and forwards, they're gonna make this exactly what you want. [2:15:18, 2:15:20]: Um, so they really need to be on the team. [2:15:21, 2:15:24]: Uh and then the final um individual you see. [2:15:24, 2:15:28]: uh is the acoustical engineering part which is so critical. [2:15:29, 2:15:32]: Uh these are the right guys to be on it. This is all they do. [2:15:32, 2:15:34]: Is indoor venues. [2:15:34, 2:15:42]: Um and they're gonna do acoustics not just for the theater piece, but also for the ballroom and the front the front lobby areas. So [2:15:42, 2:15:51]: the gallery, the museum, and uh that entry space. So this is full acoustical design to make sure that all these spaces can work. [2:15:52, 2:15:53]: uh in the ways that they're supposed to. [2:15:56, 2:16:02]: Uh and then just so you know, we want to hit the ground running if possible. So if there is approval tonight. [2:16:03, 2:16:07]: Um we're planning to kick off this week, tomorrow, in fact, if possible. [2:16:07, 2:16:07]: Support. [2:16:08, 2:16:14]: I can cancel that if, you know, the council deems that, you know, it's not right to move forward at this time, but we're ready to go tomorrow. [2:16:15, 2:16:19]: Um and what that's gonna allow us to do is we're gonna s there's a lot of kind of [2:16:19, 2:16:24]: We've done programming in kind of a grand fashion, but we need to start asking some more detailed questions. [2:16:25, 2:16:28]: So we're going to be putting together the following week. [2:16:28, 2:16:29]: Um [2:16:29, 2:16:31]: what we call a preference survey. [2:16:31, 2:16:34]: Uh and we're gonna send this out through um Mr. Knighton. [2:16:34, 2:16:40]: And it will give all the stakeholders who want to give input who he deems uh it should be sent to. [2:16:40, 2:16:43]: Give us some really specific feedback. [2:16:43, 2:16:49]: So we're gonna collect all those answers and then we're gonna present it to you on um during your council retreat. [2:16:49, 2:16:52]: So you can see exactly where we're moving. [2:16:52, 2:16:53]: Uh in two weeks' time. [2:16:54, 2:16:55]: Uh because [2:16:55, 2:17:05]: To make sure that we're we're meeting schedules and getting this thing under construction, we need to really be moving fast for the first three months and it will feel kind of um [2:17:06, 2:17:06]: Quick. [2:17:07, 2:17:10]: Uh just because there's a lot of decisions and a lot of input we need to make sure we're going [2:17:11, 2:17:13]: the right direction for the remainder of the project. [2:17:16, 2:17:18]: So in those are the slides I have to share. [2:17:18, 2:17:19]: Okay. [2:17:20, 2:17:27]: All right, thank you. Uh Heather, appreciate that. The council, any questions for for Miss Hubble? Um uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:17:28, 2:17:35]: Actually, my question is not for Miss Hubble, it's for Mr. Knighton. Um looking at the [2:17:35, 2:17:41]: the professional fees associated with this, they included um [2:17:41, 2:17:44]: The construction administration piece. [2:17:45, 2:17:48]: What responsibilities or tasks? [2:17:48, 2:17:49]: That [2:17:49, 2:17:51]: This proposal would be doing. [2:17:51, 2:17:52]: That keck and wood. [2:17:53, 2:17:54]: Would not be. [2:17:54, 2:17:56]: I'm trying to understand is there an overlap? [2:17:57, 2:17:58]: And responsibilities. [2:17:59, 2:18:04]: Can may I answer? Yes, sure. You yes you can. Go right in. If you don't mind. [2:18:04, 2:18:12]: Um, this question's asked a lot. Uh there are three groups that have to be involved in construction projects for them to be successful. [2:18:13, 2:18:16]: One is a a program management. [2:18:16, 2:18:17]: manager or a um [2:18:18, 2:18:21]: Owner's rep, which is what Carl is providing. [2:18:21, 2:18:24]: Then you of course have the contractor who is building. [2:18:25, 2:18:25]: The work. [2:18:26, 2:18:28]: But the third part is really the design team. [2:18:28, 2:18:34]: Lots of things come up during constructions. Uh products might not be able to be consourced. [2:18:34, 2:18:35]: Sourced. [2:18:35, 2:18:36]: Appropriately. [2:18:37, 2:18:38]: The um [2:18:38, 2:18:40]: A a detailed question might come up. [2:18:41, 2:18:44]: So there needs to be constant kind of communication. [2:18:44, 2:18:49]: Um, with the contractor and the design team to make sure that's all functioning well. [2:18:49, 2:18:49]: So [2:18:50, 2:18:57]: you know, Carl and TSW would represent two pieces of that kind of uh [2:18:57, 2:18:59]: Repart me to [2:18:59, 2:19:02]: um coordinate during construction. Does that help? [2:19:05, 2:19:09]: І стімсь аз доп. [2:19:11, 2:19:15]: Maybe Mr. Knighton, you can help me understand a little bit better. [2:19:15, 2:19:20]: А но вит Кекін Водс де родже менеджер. [2:19:20, 2:19:25]: Will assume some of the responsibilities that are outlined here in your description. [2:19:25, 2:19:27]: Um I just don't want us to [2:19:27, 2:19:28]: We pain. [2:19:29, 2:19:35]: twice for the same responsibility. So I'm just trying to distinguish the two. [2:19:36, 2:19:46]: Well, now I think Heather gave a a good description, but the the architect, the one that's that's working this essentially working these projects now in terms of the development. [2:19:46, 2:20:00]: And then ultimate construction documents. They are putting together the pieces for the framework of the cultural arts center, what it's going to take to actually build the cultural arts center from a designing and programming standpoint. [2:20:01, 2:20:11]: The construction person who actually will build the um amphitheater will be responsible for the hardcore building construction of the amphitheater, cultural art center. [2:20:11, 2:20:14]: the hardcore construction of the cultural art center. [2:20:15, 2:20:21]: Um Carl with Kek and Wood, his role would be to as the owner's rep. [2:20:21, 2:20:32]: In other words, he's working on behalf of the city, making sure that the contractor, large part, is staying on task, staying on time, making sure that they're following the prescribed [2:20:32, 2:20:45]: um items in terms of the actual construction of the project. He's also working on uh working for or working with us to develop the RFP that'll go out for the construction manager at risk. [2:20:45, 2:21:05]: In addition to that, so you've got him working in that role or in that capacity, and also TSW working in their capacity to make sure that the architectural functions of the Cultural Arts Center are being met as things do come up over time with the construction with the construction team from an architectural standpoint. [2:21:05, 2:21:06]: Design that's been done. [2:21:06, 2:21:14]: Making sure that that's in order. And Carl focused more on the hardcore descriptive items for the construction of the actual. [2:21:14, 2:21:26]: um cultural arts center itself. I think that with uh them working together um on the on the amphitheater, I think it helped us in many ways. It saved us money along the way actually. [2:21:27, 2:21:32]: in many areas and it helped the project uh progress of the project. [2:21:32, 2:21:33]: Move forward. [2:21:34, 2:21:41]: These are very intricate and detailed projects. When you're talking about an 18 or ultimately an 18 million dollar type facility. [2:21:41, 2:21:46]: With many exteriors, many interiors, site work that has to be done. [2:21:46, 2:21:57]: And having an architect and then a project manager to be able to oversee all aspects of the project from start to finish, I think will benefit the city. And I think it's proven that. [2:21:57, 2:21:59]: Um when they've been working together on the amphitheater. [2:22:02, 2:22:05]: Hopefully. Okay. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [2:22:05, 2:22:10]: Yeah, I d the one thing that I always want to keep in mind in these situations. [2:22:10, 2:22:18]: Is you know, we're we're even though we're moving these things forward as we as we choose to do. [2:22:18, 2:22:20]: And we're staying on and we're [2:22:21, 2:22:23]: Following our plan, which is our s short term work. [2:22:24, 2:22:26]: It is fiscally responsible. [2:22:27, 2:22:33]: I just want to constantly remind the citizens what an outstanding financial position the city is in. [2:22:34, 2:22:38]: So Mr. Knighton, would you just would you hit on that just a little bit about [2:22:39, 2:22:48]: what uh how we're pacing this out and that the outstanding financial position the city is in is really allowing us to do what we're doing. [2:22:50, 2:22:55]: Well, as as given by the um auditor uh about a month or so ago. [2:22:56, 2:22:58]: The city is in very solid financial position. [2:22:59, 2:23:09]: Um, and is is uh you know, about seventeen million dollars. So in fund balance, which our general fund budget is about twelve point six million dollars, so it's well over [2:23:09, 2:23:14]: Um the a hundred percent mark close to the hundred and twenty five percent mark. [2:23:14, 2:23:19]: which is extremely good for for um for cities counties [2:23:19, 2:23:23]: And so that's obviously allowed the city to be able to. [2:23:23, 2:23:33]: leverage those resources um to build these projects. As always, we have to be fiscally responsible. And as I mentioned before, some of the things that we have discussed. [2:23:33, 2:23:41]: Uh TSW and myself and Kekin Wood of ensuring budgetary responsibility for this upcoming project. [2:23:41, 2:23:44]: Um we've already started to put in place and so [2:23:44, 2:23:50]: Um the city is in very good financial uh position based again on the auditor's report. [2:23:50, 2:23:55]: And um you know, we'll continue obviously to monitor very carefully. [2:23:55, 2:24:00]: um our financial uh obligations, responsibilities, and expenditures of funds. [2:24:01, 2:24:04]: But it does allow uh the city to be able to. [2:24:04, 2:24:09]: um build a cultural art center ultimately that would benefit many citizens through its programming. [2:24:10, 2:24:11]: And through its offerings. [2:24:12, 2:24:15]: Yeah, and the one thing that I wanna say is this, ladies and gentlemen. [2:24:15, 2:24:20]: If you were been a Stockbridge resident over ten years, you understand. [2:24:20, 2:24:25]: I hear this question all the time. How does stock reality have all this money? [2:24:26, 2:24:35]: There was a couple of councils before this council came in where there wasn't there wasn't any project movement forward. [2:24:36, 2:24:37]: Okay. [2:24:37, 2:24:42]: And basically we're spending monies that could have been spent by previous councils. [2:24:43, 2:24:46]: The still in the cities. [2:24:46, 2:24:54]: Bank account in the reserve funds. So, in essence, because of the lack of spending uh ahead of time. [2:24:55, 2:24:56]: Uh we have [2:24:56, 2:25:00]: excess funds. So even though we're spending these funds. [2:25:01, 2:25:06]: We still have greater than a year's reserve fund in the bank. [2:25:06, 2:25:10]: Um or or not necessarily in cash, we have properties. [2:25:10, 2:25:13]: And understand, I'm glad we did buy those properties. Why? [2:25:14, 2:25:18]: Because we bought those properties at a time when the market was crashed. [2:25:18, 2:25:24]: So guess what? All of those properties are escalating in value in the up market. So [2:25:24, 2:25:28]: the fund balance will actually grow as those properties are sold off. [2:25:28, 2:25:35]: because they're worth more way more than the city paid for'em at that time and really didn't do anything with them. [2:25:36, 2:25:39]: All right, uh Mr. Blount, I see your hand. Go ahead, please. [2:25:41, 2:25:43]: You know, when I came onto this council. [2:25:44, 2:25:44]: Um [2:25:45, 2:25:49]: I took office in in twenty sixteen, January twenty sixteen. [2:25:51, 2:25:52]: And two administrations. [2:25:53, 2:25:56]: Ago w w would put that before I came on council. [2:25:57, 2:25:59]: But attending council meetings [2:26:00, 2:26:02]: Downtown development authority meetings and and um [2:26:04, 2:26:06]: I I learnt a lot about [2:26:06, 2:26:07]: What was going on? [2:26:08, 2:26:09]: With this council. [2:26:10, 2:26:11]: And [2:26:11, 2:26:13]: We're in great financial [2:26:14, 2:26:21]: Uh we have a good financial, uh uh sound financial because of some of the decisions that was made prior to me coming into office. [2:26:22, 2:26:23]: We have to remember that [2:26:24, 2:26:26]: Uh two ministrations ago you had [2:26:27, 2:26:29]: This the council fighting to get [2:26:29, 2:26:31]: properties and eight million dollars back. [2:26:32, 2:26:33]: That was given up. [2:26:34, 2:26:40]: To the downtown development authority. When I came on this council, the council was in much litigation. [2:26:41, 2:26:44]: Fighting to make c city stop really sound. [2:26:45, 2:26:52]: You first gotta become sound in order to spend money. You gotta get all your monies back in order in in and properties and [2:26:52, 2:26:55]: Finish that litigation in order in order to make things happen. [2:26:56, 2:27:05]: So I don't want to beat my chest beat my chest coming in at 2016 like I was Superman because some foundation had to be laid by the previous council. And I think Councilwoman Gantt. [2:27:06, 2:27:08]: Uh Lakeis again for laying a lot of that foundation. [2:27:09, 2:27:16]: in helping uh retrieving monies that was given given out from the uh uh uh two administrations ago. [2:27:17, 2:27:25]: And so when you look at that, and then you look at us gonna fight for two years for our city, two years to keep our city whole. [2:27:26, 2:27:28]: And the first thing that it tell told us [2:27:29, 2:27:31]: We have to be careful on expenditures. [2:27:32, 2:27:40]: Because we have no idea what we will have to do in order to keep our city financially stable, because we don't know where the vote was going to go. [2:27:40, 2:27:42]: when it goes to the polls. [2:27:43, 2:27:48]: So this city is not financially stable just because of what happened from twenty sixteen. [2:27:49, 2:28:02]: It's stable because of decisions that's been made from previous from a previous administration of council and us all as well. We haven't been sitting down. We've been careful and cautious on what we spend, how we spend it. [2:28:03, 2:28:08]: And as we sit here today, that's one of the things I want us to continue to do. [2:28:09, 2:28:15]: Mr. Knighton, yes, we are financially stable. But one of the things that you just said recently at the last council meeting. [2:28:17, 2:28:21]: In order for us to stay financially sound by the decisions that are being made. [2:28:22, 2:28:26]: We're going to have to implement a tax on the citizens of Stockbridge. [2:28:27, 2:28:28]: In order for us to stay [2:28:29, 2:28:31]: Financially sound. [2:28:32, 2:28:36]: I'm a citizen of Stockbridge and I live right here in the city of Stockbridge. [2:28:37, 2:28:40]: And when we have all these expenditures. [2:28:41, 2:28:42]: All of these money's going out. [2:28:43, 2:28:45]: We're willing to write blank checks. [2:28:45, 2:28:47]: Somebody's got to stand up and say, hey. [2:28:48, 2:28:51]: We gotta make the we gotta make something make sense. [2:28:52, 2:28:53]: And be physically [2:28:53, 2:29:07]: responsible about how we spend the taxpayers' money. Because we're financially sound doesn't mean we just go just keep spending, spending, spending. Why? Because as your checkbook decrease, the taxpayers' funds decrease. [2:29:08, 2:29:09]: And we've been told. [2:29:10, 2:29:21]: That in order to do everything that this council is doing, it's not to do it because we're financially sound to stay that way, you're going to be charged more to stay in your house. That's being transparent. [2:29:21, 2:29:26]: That's letting you know in order for us to do everything that we want to do. [2:29:28, 2:29:33]: Everything that's been put before you by this council in order to stay financially sound. [2:29:34, 2:29:36]: The citizens will have to pay a tax. [2:29:37, 2:29:37]: And that [2:29:38, 2:29:41]: Bothers me and it concerns me, but it can be stopped. [2:29:42, 2:29:42]: Now. [2:29:44, 2:29:52]: All right, Mayor, Mayor, if I may respond, please, since my name was mentioned. Yes, sir. Go right at the point. I stated that within the context of a full-fledged [2:29:52, 2:29:53]: Police Department. [2:29:54, 2:29:56]: That's what I stated that in context of. [2:29:57, 2:30:02]: which is supported by the Carl Vinson study. So I just wanted to make that clear and put that on the record. [2:30:03, 2:30:09]: Tonight and and I mentioned that because for the overall scheme, if you heard what I just said. [2:30:10, 2:30:13]: It's been the overall plans of this council to move forward at all. [2:30:15, 2:30:20]: And you're and you that's why you said in order for us to stay financially sound. [2:30:21, 2:30:30]: We will have this this council will have to implement a tax on the citizen. You said that with the implementation of a police department. Yes, you did. I will say that. [2:30:30, 2:30:31]: Okay. [2:30:32, 2:30:34]: Uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:30:35, 2:30:42]: Okay. It's always been my understanding when we moved forward with bonding for the police department that we would start small. [2:30:43, 2:30:54]: It was no mention of establishing a full 57 police force. None, not once. But nonetheless, my question is in terms of the Cultural Arts Center. [2:30:55, 2:30:56]: and the funding for it. [2:30:56, 2:31:06]: Mr. Knighton, I know that we bonded for it, but I know that we're gonna pay it back with SPLOSS. Can you explain the whole plan as far as the financing for this? [2:31:08, 2:31:09]: how we will pay it back. [2:31:10, 2:31:11]: No taxes. [2:31:12, 2:31:12]: Please. [2:31:15, 2:31:16]: Yeah, new Miss Knight. [2:31:18, 2:31:19]: You meet it, sir. [2:31:21, 2:31:22]: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. [2:31:22, 2:31:25]: Uh with respect to the uh cultural arts center. [2:31:26, 2:31:30]: Um an eighteen million dollars. Remember um earlier in the year, of course, the council. [2:31:30, 2:31:35]: Agreed to bond fourteen milyen dollars in in May of this year. It was a conversation. [2:31:36, 2:31:38]: Regarding the cultural arts center and whether or not [2:31:38, 2:31:44]: fourteen million dollars would really ultimately result in what the council's vision was for the cultural arts center. [2:31:45, 2:31:46]: Through several conversations. [2:31:47, 2:31:54]: Um, you know, it was made known and ultimately approved by the council to move to eighteen million dollars to really capture the essence of. [2:31:55, 2:32:08]: A cultural arts center that the council envisioned and would provide the programming necessary to meet the needs from your perspective for the uh citizens. And so at that time, um uh Mr. Wall uh was part of that discussion. [2:32:09, 2:32:13]: Um and talked about the fourteen million dollars in that by the by the [2:32:14, 2:32:19]: time the construction of the amphitheater would get to the po or excuse me, I see saying amphitheater, I have that on my mind. [2:32:20, 2:32:21]: Cultural Arts Center. [2:32:21, 2:32:22]: Cultural Arts Center. [2:32:23, 2:32:41]: Um we get to the point of having expended$14 million, that there would be other uh financial sources that would be available to us. And then at that time, we make the necessary decision to um fund the additional four uh additional four million dollars that could come from several sources that could come. [2:32:42, 2:32:49]: either from fund balance or it could come from even in elements of the even the infrastructure bill have alluded to being able to use [2:32:49, 2:32:51]: Some funds for civic buildings. [2:32:52, 2:32:53]: Um that's been uh [2:32:53, 2:32:55]: contemplated through the the [2:32:55, 2:32:56]: Federal legislature. [2:32:57, 2:33:03]: And so utilizing the 14 million in bonds and then at that time making the appropriate choice with respect to the additional four million. [2:33:05, 2:33:05]: Okay. [2:33:06, 2:33:08]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [2:33:08, 2:33:13]: I just wanted to correct a couple of things that has been said and I know [2:33:14, 2:33:16]: We got off track. Um [2:33:16, 2:33:27]: Uh we're here to hear uh Mrs. Hubble presentation and talk about the cultural art, but I I just have to correct a couple things. When information goes out that's incorrect. [2:33:28, 2:33:28]: Um [2:33:30, 2:33:30]: Yeah. [2:33:31, 2:33:32]: We did not [2:33:32, 2:33:36]: get monies back. We we we got properties back. It was stated that [2:33:36, 2:33:42]: Uh some council member was instrumental in getting, you know, the money back, but actually it was it was property. [2:33:43, 2:33:44]: Number two. [2:33:45, 2:33:48]: No one counts a person. [2:33:48, 2:33:50]: Let me say that again. [2:33:51, 2:33:54]: No one council person. [2:33:55, 2:33:57]: Can legislate anything. [2:33:58, 2:33:59]: It it takes [2:34:00, 2:34:04]: It takes a majority of the council to move the ball. [2:34:04, 2:34:06]: Uh I I just want to say that. [2:34:06, 2:34:07]: Number three [2:34:10, 2:34:14]: Yes, we are financially in in in sound. [2:34:14, 2:34:15]: Position [2:34:16, 2:34:20]: But let's understand that municipal government [2:34:20, 2:34:23]: Is not a Fortune five hundred. [2:34:23, 2:34:24]: Uh industry. [2:34:26, 2:34:30]: We are not about making profit. [2:34:31, 2:34:33]: And giving cash dividends. [2:34:35, 2:34:37]: What we are charged with [2:34:37, 2:34:39]: Із континун. [2:34:41, 2:34:42]: To improve [2:34:43, 2:34:44]: The service [2:34:45, 2:34:46]: That we render. [2:34:48, 2:34:50]: From a financial standpoint. [2:34:51, 2:34:53]: This is what we're obligated to do. [2:34:53, 2:34:59]: Not to sit back and and and make profit just to say, well, we got profit. [2:35:00, 2:35:00]: No. [2:35:01, 2:35:03]: We talk about surpluses, yes. [2:35:04, 2:35:07]: But we are mandated to constantly [2:35:08, 2:35:09]: Improve. [2:35:09, 2:35:28]: The services improve the quality of life for our citizens to improve the quality of potential new homeowners that are m looking to move into Starkrid, those businesses that are looking to come in. So we have to continuously. [2:35:29, 2:35:32]: Look at how we improve. [2:35:32, 2:35:34]: The quality of life [2:35:35, 2:35:43]: And and this is what I do, this is what I focus on every day, is to how we improve the quality of life. [2:35:44, 2:35:46]: For all of our citizens. [2:35:46, 2:35:48]: Not to see how we could stoppile. [2:35:49, 2:35:53]: uh uh profit just to say okay we got profit. [2:35:54, 2:36:01]: I I'm not fearful of uh of a tax and we have never said that that that would not be a tax. [2:36:01, 2:36:02]: But you don't get [2:36:03, 2:36:04]: Something for nothing. [2:36:05, 2:36:07]: And that's what folks need to understand. [2:36:07, 2:36:16]: Uh I have not heard any negative. Well, I take that back. I guess I have heard some negative of from some folk, but [2:36:16, 2:36:18]: I would say that the path [2:36:18, 2:36:21]: That's been taken by this municipality. [2:36:22, 2:36:24]: I think a lot of folks are in favor. [2:36:25, 2:36:26]: And they understand. [2:36:26, 2:36:28]: But I will say this. [2:36:29, 2:36:33]: When we we just finished talking about roads and we've been talking about bridges and [2:36:34, 2:36:36]: All of our service delivery. [2:36:37, 2:36:38]: This [2:36:39, 2:36:40]: Hmm. [2:36:41, 2:36:42]: This is our obligation. [2:36:43, 2:36:45]: This is what we have to stay conscious of. [2:36:46, 2:36:48]: How do we go every day? [2:36:49, 2:36:50]: To improve [2:36:50, 2:36:52]: The service delivery. [2:36:52, 2:36:55]: When we talk about the amphitheater. [2:36:55, 2:36:58]: as a as as as an economic engine. [2:36:59, 2:37:01]: That's going to spur other developments. [2:37:02, 2:37:05]: When we talk about the cultural arts. [2:37:05, 2:37:07]: How that is going to be [2:37:07, 2:37:10]: uh ec economic engine that's going to spur [2:37:12, 2:37:15]: This is what we are supposed to do. We are supposed to spur. [2:37:16, 2:37:17]: that growth [2:37:18, 2:37:19]: You can't sit back. [2:37:19, 2:37:31]: Now we've been talking about policing, we've been talking about the amphitheater, we've been talking about the culture arts for years and years and years, five, six, seven, eight years. [2:37:32, 2:37:34]: So I asked the question at the last meeting. [2:37:35, 2:37:36]: What are we waiting for? [2:37:38, 2:37:41]: Can you say that things were better? [2:37:41, 2:37:42]: Three years ago. [2:37:43, 2:37:45]: Five years ago to implement any of these things. [2:37:46, 2:37:49]: Are things gonna be better five years from now? [2:37:49, 2:37:52]: We don't know about the future, but we know right now. [2:37:53, 2:37:56]: But we plan today for the future. [2:37:56, 2:38:00]: So I'm not afraid of this path forward. [2:38:00, 2:38:03]: I'm about trying to provide a better [2:38:03, 2:38:05]: Quality of life. [2:38:05, 2:38:11]: for all of our citizens, because this is what's I hear, this is the demand. [2:38:11, 2:38:14]: That we hear from our citizens. [2:38:14, 2:38:15]: So uh [2:38:16, 2:38:16]: No. [2:38:17, 2:38:21]: Our path forward is the path forward that is demanded of us. [2:38:22, 2:38:35]: So I'm going to end there and I will make a motion to approve, Mr. Mayor, but I'll I'll allow some other comments. But I just want to share that that yeah, we got our properties back. We didn't get monies back, but trust me. [2:38:36, 2:38:38]: No one [2:38:38, 2:38:39]: Person. [2:38:41, 2:38:44]: In any municipal government or any council. [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: cannot legislate by themselves. [2:38:50, 2:38:51]: Cannot. [2:38:53, 2:38:57]: Thank you, Mayor. I yield back. You're welcome, sir. Councilwoman Gann, go ahead, please. [2:38:58, 2:39:05]: Thank you. Um I've been kind of quiet listening to some of the comments and [2:39:05, 2:39:08]: Let me just say this and I thank you, Councilman Blount. [2:39:09, 2:39:10]: For recognizing [2:39:10, 2:39:16]: that we did have to start. We pretty much started at ground zero on a lot of things. [2:39:17, 2:39:20]: I'm not here to say who did what. Um [2:39:20, 2:39:29]: My record speaks for itself when especially when it came to the DDA and trying to retrieve our properties back. There were countless nights to two, three o'clock in the morning. [2:39:29, 2:39:34]: that I had to speak with former D D DA members, as well as law enforcement. [2:39:34, 2:39:40]: So it's not anything um that's not a secret. But what I can tell you is [2:39:40, 2:40:00]: Um, that I'm concerned in my voting history and what I'm concerned about right now is the way we are spending money. Now, we're I'm all for the bonds for this project. We've already bunded it out. We saw what we were gonna do, we know what our plan was. Um, it too is. [2:40:01, 2:40:06]: um something that has been planned for quite some time, whether they're gonna keep the building or tear it down. [2:40:07, 2:40:07]: But [2:40:08, 2:40:15]: I'm not gonna sugarcoat that over this past week we've had a lot of discussion about police departments. [2:40:15, 2:40:18]: Um and starting a police department. [2:40:18, 2:40:21]: And there has been a lot of [2:40:21, 2:40:32]: Um, I have here right in front of me both police feasibility feasibility reports that states that we'll be paying an annual 5.688, 837 a year. [2:40:33, 2:40:36]: Five million six hundred and eighty eight thousand eight hundred and thirty seven. [2:40:37, 2:40:42]: The eight hundred six hundred and eighty eight thousand eight hundred and thirty seven dollars a year annually. [2:40:43, 2:40:55]: Um I also have on here which I find very interesting because the 2019 feasibility study on our police report, the 20 is a supplement, not just an update, a supplement financially. [2:40:56, 2:40:58]: If we want to stay in great financial shape. [2:40:59, 2:41:18]: Then we need to abide by some of the suggestions that our financial advisor has given us. When I look and read through some of these, the issues that they have and the concerns with starting our police department, I think that it should be more than a mayor and council making this type of decision. [2:41:18, 2:41:38]: With taxpayers' dollars. And I think we need to be really concerned about that. I know that this was not the actual agenda item, but since we've been talking about it, I'm gonna go ahead and bring that up since we've been discussing it. And it actually states that we need to have several town halls. We need to be honest, not just say it's a [2:41:38, 2:41:39]: Millage. [2:41:39, 2:41:46]: Because that could be a millish tact on to the county, not just the fact that we're gonna get a rollback from the county, because we are. [2:41:46, 2:41:53]: But the fact that we're still gonna have to pay taxes and the fact that our budget's gonna double within four years. [2:41:54, 2:41:58]: All right. Well I'm so we need to know what what we need to do. [2:41:58, 2:42:16]: is we need to have additional information um out here. There it's several pages long. We need to discuss those things. This is not a a back and forth. I appreciate the presentation in regards to the art center again, but we also need to take a step back. [2:42:16, 2:42:17]: We bonded. [2:42:18, 2:42:31]: 25 million dollars. If the police department was so important, we would have won the five million six uh five million six hundred and eighty-eight thousand eight thirty-seven for that. That's not what we did. Right. [2:42:31, 2:42:43]: That was tacked in and on the last minute, at the last minute, if it was so important to us. But uh not only that, I think that we're doing things in a rushed manner. We're spending a lot of money. [2:42:44, 2:42:56]: And we need to be careful of that. I love my community and I love, I want us to have the art center. I think our children deserve that. I think our community deserves that. I would love to have a community center. [2:42:57, 2:43:09]: I have worked with several uh you already know the NFL and and a couple other people in conjunction, trying to get other money allocated so that we wouldn't have to spend all of our money. [2:43:11, 2:43:30]: Right. There are police grants. Our chair even said that from Henry County. Maybe we should look to some of the grants that are out there. Maybe we should um fund in different ways. The other cities that don't have um Locust Grove and Hampton don't have police departments, but they have utilities. So I think that we need to consider the way we're spending money. [2:43:31, 2:43:41]: And and I'm sorry, I I know that we were talking about one thing, but everybody on here started bearing off to other things. I've listened and that's my rebuttal. [2:43:41, 2:43:42]: Okay. [2:43:42, 2:44:02]: Appreciate it. Now, uh obviously, yes, we're talking about the Cultural Arts Center itself, but here's something food for thought for the entire council. I don't I don't see unless there's some type of legal way. [2:44:02, 2:44:22]: To go back and change uh that that vote or change out the 25 million dollars that's been bonded, unless there's some type of legal way to do that. Is there a legal way to even do that? And if it's not a legal way to do that, it's a done deal, ladies and gentlemen. It's done, it's done. Even if there was hold on a second, even if there was a legal way to even change. [2:44:22, 2:44:42]: Change the bond aspect and make it a lower amount. Is that the will of the council? Would that be would that even pass? So if the if it's not a legal way to do this, and it's not the will of the council, even though it's been passed, it's a done deal. It's just a done deal, period. I mean, it we we just got to go forward. Now then you got to keep moving forward. [2:44:42, 2:45:02]: as transparent with the citizens as possible, but you got to move forward. You can't go backwards. There's no legal way to do this. Now I know our advanced our our our uh actual financial advisors aren't online right now. I asked this question of Mr. Knight to try to get some answers on this potentially if this since this probably would come up and that's my concern. I've been asked what have I think in this aspect? Well I'll tell you what [2:45:02, 2:45:12]: If you can't change it, if it's already votes already done and you can't go back and you legally can't do it, you gotta go forward. You don't be stagnant. You gotta keep going. I mean it's already done deal. [2:45:12, 2:45:15]: And if you once again, even if you could change it. [2:45:15, 2:45:30]: Is that the will of the council to legally change it? And if it is not, then it's really a done deal. Let's keep going. Because talking about and trying to change anything is not gonna do anything. It really isn't. It's already done. We just gotta keep moving out. So we're not gonna prolong this very long because we did get a little off the subject here. [2:45:30, 2:45:38]: But what it amounts to is that uh Miss Hubble, I'm coming back to you, ma'am. Anything else you need to add at this point? Anything else you need to to mention? [2:45:38, 2:45:38]: [9939.9, 9942.6]: Um no sir, unless there are any questions for me. [2:45:42, 2:45:52]: Well, I'm gonna tell you what, we're we're going to uh I would like to stop this at this point. Mr. Thomas said he wanted to make a motion, so I'm willing to entertain a motion for Mr. Thomas. [2:45:53, 2:45:54]: You're immediate, sir. [2:45:57, 2:46:06]: I I I know Mayor Pro Tem had his hand up. I don't know if he wanted to add on to that, but I'm gonna respect you, Mayor, because you you asked us to move on and that's what I'm willing to do. [2:46:07, 2:46:07]: Um [2:46:08, 2:46:10]: Mayor, I'm I've I'm motioned. [2:46:11, 2:46:19]: That we move forward with the uh presentation that was made by uh Mrs. Hubble T SW tonight. [2:46:20, 2:46:20]: Second. [2:46:21, 2:46:21]: All right. [2:46:22, 2:46:24]: Motion is made to second. All right. [2:46:25, 2:46:25]: No. [2:46:26, 2:46:31]: We need to move forward. Do I dare ask, do we have any additional comments? Yes, sir. [2:46:31, 2:46:32]: All right. What's on your mind? [2:46:33, 2:46:37]: I'm gonna just this is what I'm gonna say. Yes, we veered off track, okay. [2:46:37, 2:46:42]: But in the end, you gotta understand this. You can't allow information like that to go out in the public. [2:46:43, 2:46:48]: and not be challenged. We we are here throwing the boogeyman out there, tax, tax, tax. [2:46:48, 2:46:51]: Okay. What we're talking about. [2:46:51, 2:46:56]: is twenty dollars a month, ladies and gentlemen. Worst case scenario. That's what we're talking about. [2:46:56, 2:46:58]: That's what the city manager said. [2:46:58, 2:46:59]: Okay. [2:47:00, 2:47:01]: Two hundred four, two hundred dollars a year. [2:47:02, 2:47:04]: A a year. We're not talking about we're talking about a year. [2:47:05, 2:47:13]: So for all of this stuff going on out there all year about thousands of dollars, there's no thousands of dollars. We're talking about worst case scenario. [2:47:14, 2:47:21]: And I'm not surrendering the point that there's actually going to be a city tech as we roll the police department out if we do. [2:47:22, 2:47:23]: Then guess what? No. [2:47:24, 2:47:26]: There was no situation out there. [2:47:26, 2:47:27]: Okay. [2:47:27, 2:47:42]: That we're throwing the boogeyman out there over and over again. The city manager just said that we had a 17 million dollar audited fund. Not not our I didn't make it up. None of the council did. It was 17 million dollar audit. [2:47:42, 2:47:58]: From the city said that. So stop with the with with tearing down your own city financially when it's rock solid. No other city in Georgia can say that they have a higher percentage of reserve funds than Stock Ridge. Not one. [2:47:58, 2:47:59]: Stop it. [2:47:59, 2:48:00]: All right. [2:48:00, 2:48:11]: All right, the um councilman barber stand by uh council monk, you've already spoken quite a bit here. Councilman Barber, go ahead. Okay. Okay, go councilman barber, go ahead, please. [2:48:11, 2:48:15]: Wanted to see if there's an opportunity for Mr. Knighton. [2:48:15, 2:48:18]: just to share um about the [2:48:18, 2:48:21]: Update to what we're doing with the police. [2:48:21, 2:48:29]: uh services, if there's an opportunity anytime during this meeting, just so that the public is aware. That's all. [2:48:30, 2:48:43]: Well, right now we need to we need to deal with this particular subject, which is dealing with the cultural art center. Councilman Thomas Quay, please. Well, I I was just gonna ask for a port of water. I it has been motion, been second, and I think you're correct about getting on track. [2:48:43, 2:48:48]: Um a lot of these disc discussion could be held at another time. [2:48:48, 2:48:52]: Um I I'm just recommending Mayor that we just stay on track and move forward. [2:48:52, 2:48:53]: Right. [2:48:53, 2:48:55]: I have a question on topic. [2:48:55, 2:48:57]: Actually on topic. [2:48:57, 2:49:01]: on the topic. The topic is dealing with the cultural center. Skip deals with the cultural center. [2:49:01, 2:49:02]: Yes. [2:49:02, 2:49:07]: Mr. Knighton, you mentioned before the vote, you mentioned that about the$14 million bundle. [2:49:07, 2:49:10]: But you didn't mention where the other four million dollars would come from. [2:49:11, 2:49:12]: Yes, plus. [2:49:13, 2:49:14]: No no no. [2:49:15, 2:49:20]: The fourteen million is from SWAS. Where's the other four million coming from the add up to eighteen? [2:49:20, 2:49:20]: No. [2:49:22, 2:49:23]: Mayor. [2:49:23, 2:49:25]: Right. Mr. Knight, you understand what I'm saying? [2:49:27, 2:49:29]: How much money were allocated from Splots for the Cultural Arts Center? [2:49:31, 2:49:34]: Allocated from the bond. Yeah, from the bond. [2:49:35, 2:49:39]: was 14 million dollars. 14 million. How many how much from Splot's gonna pay that? [2:49:42, 2:49:45]: The bond includes the splost. [2:49:45, 2:49:49]: Then where the four then where the other four million gonna come from to get us to eighteen. [2:49:50, 2:49:55]: The four the other four million which was discussed in late May with the council that was approved. [2:49:56, 2:49:59]: The financial advisor was on the call. [2:49:59, 2:50:04]: Financial advisor advised that you do not have do not bond. [2:50:05, 2:50:07]: That additional four milyen dollars. [2:50:08, 2:50:19]: That as the project progressed, 18 months or so down the road, if you spend the when you'd spend the$14 million, at that time there would be other resources available to you. [2:50:19, 2:50:22]: So to consider to consider [2:50:22, 2:50:26]: For for paying the additional fourteen milyen dollars. [2:50:27, 2:50:29]: That was what the financial advisor advised. [2:50:30, 2:50:32]: That could come from fun balance, that could come from [2:50:32, 2:50:37]: A T-SPLOST where you wouldn't have to use additional monies um in your spLOST accounts. [2:50:37, 2:50:42]: That's what the financial advisor advised, and that was ultimately approved by the council. [2:50:43, 2:50:55]: So we would be able to pay four million out of T spots on the empath on the on the Culture Arts Center if need be. Is that what No no no that's that's not what he was saying. He was saying you just mentioned T splas. I did, yes. [2:50:56, 2:51:11]: How would T Splos be involved with a cultural arts center? No, what he was saying was you have other funding sources where you would not have to use certain funds in your traditional SPLOS if T Splos were to pass. And then you could have additional funds available to you. [2:51:12, 2:51:13]: That's what he was saying. [2:51:13, 2:51:17]: And that's in the minutes of the meeting. I was actually trying to pull it up, but that's in the minutes of the meeting. [2:51:17, 2:51:18]: Okay. [2:51:18, 2:51:24]: All right, thank you. Let's go back. We got a motion. We got a second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. All in favor of the motion. [2:51:25, 2:51:26]: Three, all pose. [2:51:28, 2:51:32]: Ab abstain. Abstain. Abstain. Abstain. So two abstentions. [2:51:33, 2:51:42]: And Mayor, I want to abstain because we don't know where the money's coming for from for the four million dollars yet. We don't know. 302, motion passed. Thank you. [2:51:44, 2:52:02]: Uh council consideration approved Kick and Wood Incorporated for professional services and assisting the city with program manager services for design, bidding, and construction of the Stockbridge Cultural Arts Center, an amount of$270,000. Funding source bond splots five. Mr. Knighton, please. [2:52:06, 2:52:10]: Yes, Mayor Council. This is obviously for Kekinwood. I think we [2:52:10, 2:52:12]: Discussed some of this in the previous discussion. [2:52:13, 2:52:17]: Um this was to provide uh for their services for project management. [2:52:17, 2:52:37]: for the um uh cultural arts center the the city's uh i'm sorry miss night i'm sorry to interrupt you for a second yes heather heather congratulations i'm sorry i feel i feel shame on me congratulations you're welcome to stay as long as you like obviously you know you know whatever the case may be but uh i'm glad you you got the movement to go [2:52:37, 2:52:46]: go forward regardless uh how we we got we voted. We we're moving forward. That's what that's all we're doing. We're going forward. All right. Thank you. No problem. You're welcome. Ms. Nine, please continue. I'm sorry. [2:52:47, 2:52:54]: Right, and in Kick and Wood, the proposal portfolio is for Kekinwood to provide design, bidding, and construction oversight and project management services. [2:52:54, 2:53:04]: for the Cultural Arts Center. Again, this is to take the project from start to finish for their oversight of the project. [2:53:04, 2:53:05]: embedding um [2:53:06, 2:53:18]: design construction documents as well as the actual construction oversight of the project. In some ways, obviously they came in at a certain point in the amphitheater, but they would provide that construction oversight. And again, as I mentioned previously, [2:53:19, 2:53:39]: Um I think they've done an excellent job for the city. That's uh from my vantage point as city manager in terms of what they have provided and what they've been able to address um during the construction uh of the amphitheater project. Again, this is for the Cultural Arts Center at$270,000 for their [2:53:39, 2:53:44]: project management services essentially from start to finish design bidding and construction. [2:53:45, 2:53:49]: Okay, fine. Uh Carl, do you have any comments or anything additional you want to mention here, sir? [2:53:51, 2:53:55]: Are available for any questions anybody has, but um [2:53:55, 2:54:03]: Uh uh just to kind of um give you a quick overview of um some of the points I want to be addressing. [2:54:04, 2:54:12]: project uh should this be approved. Um we'll talk some about costs and the [2:54:16, 2:54:20]: Okay, looks like a busy. [2:54:21, 2:54:26]: Yes. We you've been your connection. We were going you were going in and out on us for a while there. [2:54:28, 2:54:30]: All right. Um [2:54:30, 2:54:34]: Sure, I'm gonna be able to um improve my connection. [2:54:35, 2:54:36]: Um [2:54:39, 2:54:42]: Still having problems and maybe that will [2:54:45, 2:55:01]: You have to wait Ms. Night, I'm sorry. I was gonna say let me try to call Carl and have him connect through my phone and maybe that might help given the situation here. It seems like he's got a bad connection. All right, try that sir, see what happens here. You can do that. [2:55:02, 2:55:06]: And I imagine, Miss Barber, you have your question available since you wanted to mention something earlier. [2:55:07, 2:55:10]: I wanted to ask, I know we had in the budget, um [2:55:10, 2:55:15]: Funds for uh professional services or was it project management? [2:55:16, 2:55:17]: But this year [2:55:17, 2:55:26]: Is that something Mr. Wiggins can answer? Uh Mr. Wiggins, John, or or where are you? John Wiggins. I'm right here. Yeah. Can you answer that question, sir? [2:55:26, 2:55:29]: Yes, we did have, yes, we do have. [2:55:30, 2:55:34]: uh funds available for that for custom I mean for uh consulting fees. [2:55:34, 2:55:35]: For this year. [2:55:36, 2:55:38]: This year. Okay. [2:55:38, 2:55:40]: So this is something um [2:55:41, 2:55:42]: Yeah, also [2:55:42, 2:55:44]: Algorithm, I assume. [2:55:45, 2:55:47]: That's a question for Mr. Knighton, but he's on the phone. [2:55:47, 2:55:49]: Maybe Mr. Wiggins, can you answer? [2:55:49, 2:55:51]: Well what was the question again? [2:55:51, 2:55:55]: Will we be budgeting for this for next year as well? [2:55:56, 2:55:59]: For professional services or consulting services. [2:56:00, 2:56:07]: Will it cover that? Yes, but um I guess we need to make the determination is is his services gonna come out of uh [2:56:08, 2:56:09]: Of the bone too. [2:56:10, 2:56:14]: Okay. That's not then we need to budget. We need to budget for it. [2:56:14, 2:56:17]: Okay. Well that's a question for Mr. Knight and then [2:56:18, 2:56:22]: Can you answer that, Mr. Knighton? I was asking um for [2:56:23, 2:56:29]: Keck and Wood uh professional services, we budgeted for that this year, correct? [2:56:30, 2:56:33]: For the project management services, I think there was a [2:56:33, 2:56:34]: Uh yeah. [2:56:34, 2:56:40]: mem a nominal amount for project management services. Obviously they are the city's project manager. [2:56:40, 2:56:46]: And with this particular project, if you authorize them for the cultural arts center. [2:56:47, 2:56:49]: Yes, those funds would come out of the bond amount. [2:56:50, 2:56:53]: Gotcha. Thank you. That's what I wanted to know. Thank you. [2:56:54, 2:56:58]: All right, Mr. Knight, are you able to talk to Carl over the phone and get him across here? [2:56:58, 2:57:00]: Is this possible? You're muted, Mr. Knight. [2:57:03, 2:57:06]: Carl, can you can you hear or do you need to make any other comments? [2:57:07, 2:57:11]: I can hear so I guess we need to just test test connection to make sure everybody can hear. [2:57:12, 2:57:14]: Yeah. Okay, great. [2:57:14, 2:57:15]: Um [2:57:16, 2:57:17]: Well [2:57:17, 2:57:17]: Uh we [2:57:18, 2:57:18]: What we [2:57:18, 2:57:27]: A lot about tonight. Um, we've been hitting a lot about on the cost of the project and that kind of thing. So what I wanted to just real quickly um [2:57:28, 2:57:34]: explain to you or come across to you is uh what my services will be able to do. [2:57:34, 2:57:35]: That will [2:57:35, 2:57:36]: Um [2:57:36, 2:57:37]: Provide us some uh [2:57:38, 2:57:44]: more chance of a s of a successful project and to overcome some of the things that maybe was misstep on. [2:57:44, 2:57:51]: the amphitheater and that's the implementation of a program manager because we were we were missing that. [2:57:51, 2:57:53]: компонент [2:57:53, 2:57:54]: And Heather uh [2:57:55, 2:58:01]: Explain very uh eloquently the three pronged approach of having your program manager. [2:58:01, 2:58:03]: Your designer and your contractor. [2:58:04, 2:58:04]: So [2:58:05, 2:58:07]: If I'm a pr if if [2:58:07, 2:58:07]: Uh [2:58:08, 2:58:13]: Our proposal is approved tonight. Um one of the first things that I want to put together for [2:58:14, 2:58:34]: uh the uh the city is a is a project management plan that's gonna address your concerns regarding a lot of things but uh mainly focusing on two uh very important things which would be the cost of the project and getting a proper budget set up for the project, one that's uh comprehensive [2:58:34, 2:58:34]: Okay. [2:58:35, 2:58:51]: That it takes into account uh all the cost components of a project, including an adequate contingency to cover uh the kind of things that happen on a project that uh that need to be included in the project budget so that we can handle [2:58:52, 2:59:02]: things like unsuitable soils or other things that come up uh without it becoming a budget problem. So the comprehensive budget needs to account for all those things. [2:59:03, 2:59:04]: Um [2:59:05, 2:59:06]: Please [2:59:06, 2:59:12]: budget component also involves uh uh constant communication with with uh [2:59:13, 2:59:20]: uh the city uh manager and the council regarding the cost of the project and the way things are allocated on the project and and how [2:59:21, 2:59:26]: the actual uh expenditures are tracking against budget. So there will be constant [2:59:27, 2:59:29]: Uh reporting regarding the [2:59:29, 2:59:32]: The project that will keep you informed. [2:59:32, 2:59:33]: On how well the [2:59:33, 2:59:37]: uh the finances of the project are are proceeding. [2:59:37, 2:59:37]: Um [2:59:38, 2:59:41]: We'll also be looking at getting our timeline set up. [2:59:41, 2:59:43]: Because I know that there's a [2:59:44, 2:59:44]: Oh [2:59:45, 3:00:01]: desire to have this project move as quickly as possible. I've already engaged uh with Heather uh some discussions about the pre-construction timeline and we're s we're really we're starting to draft that now and to give us a uh a good tool to to uh [3:00:01, 3:00:05]: Track our progress during pre construction so we make sure we're [3:00:05, 3:00:12]: We're moving toward our target of getting shovels in the ground. So there's a lot of components to program management. [3:00:12, 3:00:14]: Um I [3:00:14, 3:00:27]: do understand uh councilwoman's barber uh question regarding is there overlap. Uh sometimes that falls in the category of just nomenclature because we hear a lot of [3:00:27, 3:00:30]: uh management and things like that. [3:00:30, 3:00:32]: Those are uh [3:00:33, 3:00:48]: People have different roles and though there may be management uh it's different types of management. So we want to make sure that we're covering all the parts of the project. Uh there will be no overlap. E everybody's gonna have their assigned tasks. [3:00:48, 3:01:08]: And I will say if there's any overlap, it's just um having another set of eyes on the project also. So there may be overlaps in inspections and quality control, which would only help to enhance the project. But uh generally, you know, Heather will have her tasks, I will have my tasks, the contractor will have his task, and we're all gonna be working together. [3:01:08, 3:01:10]: together to make it a successful project. [3:01:12, 3:01:23]: Thank you, Carl. Appreciate that. Any other questions from the council for uh Carl here at all? If we can uh if there are no questions, I need a motion uh for this uh proposal. [3:01:24, 3:01:25]: Is there a motion? [3:01:28, 3:01:42]: Ms. Barber, you are you motion making a motion here? So moved. Or is there a second? Mr. Thomason second. Okay. Uh is there any further discussion on this? And if not, all in favor motion, please indicate. [3:01:44, 3:01:46]: Two, three, opposed. [3:01:48, 3:01:49]: Okay. [3:01:50, 3:01:51]: I've changed. [3:01:51, 3:02:03]: Okay, so it's three zero two motion passed. Okay. Thank you, uh Carl. Once again, Carl, just congratulations and success to you and you can stay as long as you like, sir. Okay. [3:02:04, 3:02:05]: Okay. [3:02:06, 3:02:14]: Okay. Uh council consideration to fill the vacancies and appoint members to the Main Street Advisory Board. Um Miss Harris Braggs, please. [3:02:15, 3:02:27]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council members. I come before you tonight to recommend appointment of two community members to serve on the Main Street Advisory Board. [3:02:28, 3:02:44]: The Main Street Advisory Board has met and are recommending Prayer Finlay, CEO of ELFS Cakery, to serve as the business owner outside of the Main Street District position that is currently available. [3:02:44, 3:02:47]: And then also Vanessa Gibson. [3:02:47, 3:02:50]: Who is the owner and artistic director? [3:02:50, 3:02:53]: At Eagles Landing Dance Center. [3:02:53, 3:03:01]: And this would be to fill the arts organization representative position that is currently available on the Main Street Advisory Board. [3:03:02, 3:03:16]: Okay. Um typically we talk about these in executive session, but I guess if there's only two that you have and unless there's some um need to go in a zeal session, I'd imagine we disapprove this right here. Any questions or comments from the council? Ms. Barber, please. [3:03:17, 3:03:20]: I do have a question. Are we going to approve them? [3:03:20, 3:03:21]: Um [3:03:21, 3:03:22]: individually [3:03:23, 3:03:24]: Or together. [3:03:26, 3:03:35]: Well, I would d well we can do it individually if need be, but once again once again, typically we do that we would go into Zegl session and come back out. Now, I mean uh [3:03:36, 3:03:41]: I mean we can do that that way or we can do it this way. I a lot of times we try to do the personal actions. [3:03:41, 3:03:44]: uh intersect the session and come back on and make the announcements. [3:03:44, 3:03:51]: Okay, the only reason why I'm asking is because Ms. Gibson has been attending my Zumba classes and I wanted to abstain from that vote. [3:03:52, 3:03:55]: But I am willing to approve the other gentleman. [3:03:55, 3:03:58]: But if I need to abstain completely, I will. [3:03:59, 3:04:00]: Okay. [3:04:01, 3:04:12]: The two women, the two women, by the way. Two women. And I don't I mean if you want to stay in, I guess you can do that. I don't know why what I don't think it's a conflict, but the attorneys are right here. If it's considered a conflict, they can weigh in on that. [3:04:12, 3:04:13]: Um [3:04:13, 3:04:22]: Anyway, so the desire of the council, you want to go in the executive session and come back out later to talk about this or or are we gonna go forward with the with approval? Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [3:04:23, 3:04:34]: Uh I'll I'll I'll yield it, Councilman Thomas. Go ahead, Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Well I was gonna recommend that we go ahead and feel this now. Okay. We thought I already spoke it. [3:04:35, 3:04:36]: Um [3:04:37, 3:04:42]: That would be my suggestion and I will make the motion for both at the appropriate time. [3:04:42, 3:04:45]: Okay, well if less there's other comments so you can make a motion now. [3:04:47, 3:04:50]: Um, I'd like to move that we appoint [3:04:51, 3:04:56]: Uh Miss Vanessa Gibson, owner of Eagles Land and Dance Center. [3:04:56, 3:04:58]: To feel the position [3:04:58, 3:05:02]: uh of arts organization within the main street program. [3:05:03, 3:05:05]: And uh prayer. [3:05:05, 3:05:06]: Finally [3:05:06, 3:05:09]: To fill the position of business. [3:05:09, 3:05:12]: outside of the Main Street district. [3:05:14, 3:05:15]: Circuit. [3:05:15, 3:05:19]: All right, there you go. That motion's made and seconded. Any further discussion? [3:05:20, 3:05:28]: If not, all in favor of the motion, please Mr. Blount, do you have some discuss of comment or vote? Yeah, I got a question. Ms. Braggs, how you doing tonight? [3:05:28, 3:05:35]: I'm good, thank you. Good, good. How many, how many people applied? Was those the only two applied for the position? [3:05:35, 3:05:47]: Um with regard to the business outside the Main Street district, yes, there was only um one application that was received with regard to for both positions, I'm sorry, with regard to those um positions. [3:05:47, 3:05:49]: Okay, thanks. [3:05:50, 3:05:51]: Ms. Gantt, you had a question as well? [3:05:51, 3:05:52]: No. [3:05:52, 3:05:54]: Okay, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:05:56, 3:06:09]: It's uh unanimous decision. Okay, got it. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you, Miss Brad. Stay as long as no Mayor Ford, I did not vote. You want to abstain? I'm sorry. I'm abstaining because Ms. Gibson has been participating. [3:06:09, 3:06:11]: in my boomer classes. Thank you. [3:06:11, 3:06:14]: Four zero one, excuse me, four zero one. Appreciate it. [3:06:14, 3:06:22]: Uh council consideration to amend uh amend the procurement manual revisions. Uh our attorneys, oh Your Honor, I mean uh [3:06:23, 3:06:28]: Mr. Mayor, I would like to table that because I've not had time to discuss that with [3:06:28, 3:06:30]: The council, the council member chair. [3:06:32, 3:06:37]: All right. Uh right. So be it. Mr. Blount, you have a question. [3:06:38, 3:06:56]: Um is it something you need to discuss with the full council or is it individual? I mean, because I'm looking at the uh agenda item, it's the manual and it's the revised manual. So is this something you need to speak to the full council with or something you need to approve on, or what is it? Well, I just wanna because it's a 20-something page document. [3:06:57, 3:07:02]: I just wanna take you all through it so you all can ask me questions and we can move it along as opposed to just saying [3:07:03, 3:07:07]: Here the document is for you all to vote on. But I know you've had it for a couple of weeks, so [3:07:07, 3:07:17]: Well, but when that's my point is uh uh Mr. Quentin is that we had this a couple of weeks and for a council member to go through all of that that you sent us. [3:07:18, 3:07:29]: Because most of the stuff that that's in there is either be it been saying that it can't be done. If you had gone over, if in my opinion, over this whole document, 20 pages that you sent us. [3:07:30, 3:07:33]: If any questions at hand had been [3:07:33, 3:07:36]: uh address with those council members on that. [3:07:36, 3:07:38]: We will have nothing to discuss right now. [3:07:39, 3:07:43]: This council has been involved with procurement more than we've ever needed to be. [3:07:44, 3:07:49]: And so when you sent us those twenty page documents two weeks ago. [3:07:49, 3:07:51]: And I've gone through those. [3:07:51, 3:07:57]: tw uh those documents, I'm fine if you like to wait and that to the next council meeting. I'm fine with that. [3:07:57, 3:08:00]: But I'm just saying that that we w you know. [3:08:01, 3:08:14]: We just need to we just need to do better in getting with council members prior to these meetings and and going over this stuff because when you send out that to us, I'm I'm one of the council members that tries to go through it. [3:08:15, 3:08:24]: And when I sit here and go through all of this stuff and then now we still gotta get with people. Well let me apologize. If you all like to vote in enough, please go right ahead and give it counsel. [3:08:26, 3:08:27]: And Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:08:31, 3:08:41]: Um I'd like to make a motion for us to table this at the suggestion of Attorney Washington until he's able to schedule [3:08:41, 3:08:43]: Those um [3:08:43, 3:08:46]: Three on three or two on two meetings. [3:08:46, 3:08:53]: Second. Second. Ms. Mr. Blount, second that uh in that aspect, all favorite, please indicate. [3:08:54, 3:09:00]: Okay. Is there the unanimous decision on that? Uh Ms. Gantt, I'm sorry. Your vo your vote you're for that? [3:09:01, 3:09:01]: Ms. Gantt [3:09:02, 3:09:03]: Yeah. [3:09:03, 3:09:05]: Okay, so unanimous decisions. Okay, fantastic. [3:09:06, 3:09:13]: Mayor, this is Mayor, this is Jeremy. If I can just add and support what Mr. Washington said, part of it is just a matter of triage, just juggling. [3:09:13, 3:09:18]: Yeah, we we finalized the GRA contract. We were working on this precinct issues. [3:09:18, 3:09:24]: We've got issues coming in left and right, all sorts of different things, and just you know, there's only so many hours in the day. So [3:09:24, 3:09:31]: We're gonna get these meetings scheduled. Everyone hash through this and then we'll bring it back before council. Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [3:09:31, 3:09:49]: Now a moment for my comments. First thing I like to say for folks, enjoy your Labor Day weekend. Be safe. It's coming up. Uh have fun with your family, friends, and um neighbors, but be safe, right? Coronavirus is still out there. The delta virus is still here. It hasn't gone anywhere, right? [3:09:50, 3:09:54]: So on that note, let's talk about the virus and let's talk about what's going on in here here in Henry County. [3:09:56, 3:09:58]: So far in Henry County. [3:09:59, 3:10:04]: For the last year and a half, we've now have thirty thousand five hundred and ten confirmed cases of of COVID virus. [3:10:05, 3:10:10]: And of the data I've received on Monday been three hundred and fifty deaths. [3:10:11, 3:10:12]: over the course of the last year and a half. [3:10:13, 3:10:15]: Piedmont Henry is overloaded. [3:10:15, 3:10:21]: They're doing all kinds of phenomenal things to take care of people, but they're just overloaded. Patients are all over the place. [3:10:23, 3:10:31]: Recently as of Monday, there are 150 patients uh that were COVID-19 positive in the hospital. 88 were in acute care, 55 were in ICU. [3:10:32, 3:10:44]: And matter of fact, the Dr. Henson indicated that one week ago Monday, they'd maxed out. They made they hit a milestone. Unfortunate milestone, by the way, 161 COVID positive patients in the hospital. [3:10:45, 3:10:53]: Matter of fact, the situation is so bad in that aspect here in Henry County that Piedmont Henry is one of the top 10 hospitals in the state. [3:10:53, 3:11:13]: With the highest numbers of cases of COVID, all right. And so much so that the governor has mobilized the National Guard. And the National, there are 19, as if I got the number right, 19 National Guard soldiers working at Piedmont Henry to help them out with that staff. Because the shortage of personnel, the the matter of fact of people that they just need, the fact [3:11:13, 3:11:22]: Fact that they have need some additional medical folks to help out with some of these tasks that the Piedmont Henry staff has to conduct. Okay. [3:11:22, 3:11:23]: It is serious, folks. [3:11:25, 3:11:36]: Vaccinations is the key to this. You need to go to get your vaccination done. Matter of fact, we talked early in the con early in the meeting here that we're going to have a special vaccination. [3:11:36, 3:11:45]: uh Saturday uh here shortly. We gotta plan this out with the public health department along with the county to do this in Merle Manders Conference Center. So we're looking forward to doing that. [3:11:45, 3:11:47]: The intent is to get vaccinated. [3:11:48, 3:11:53]: All right, get tested as well. You need to get tested, but what's more important is vaccinations. [3:11:53, 3:11:58]: So right now at the public health department, Monday to um Monday to to Wednesday, nine to two. [3:11:59, 3:12:05]: You can go get vaccinated at the public health department in Madonna or Tuesdays and Thursdays, 12 to 6. [3:12:05, 3:12:10]: And they don't do vaccinations on Friday. Free of charge. Absolutely free of charge. [3:12:10, 3:12:11]: In this aspect. [3:12:12, 3:12:23]: Now, I will say to you that uh testing is also done, uh COVID test is done at Red Hawk Field. It's done by a contractor called Mako. [3:12:23, 3:12:32]: And uh that's located, of course, 143 Henry Parkway, Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. for free testing, okay, for COVID. [3:12:32, 3:12:40]: in this aspect. And also, you can also schedule any type of uh free testing with the public health department district four by calling one-eight hundred. [3:12:41, 3:12:45]: eight four seven four two six two one eight hundred eight four seven four two six two [3:12:46, 3:13:04]: As you probably realize, that Pfizer has been fully approved and Pfizer now fully approved for ages 16 and above and older. And Pfizer for emergency use authorization. Emergency use authorization Pfizer for 12 individuals are 12 to 15. [3:13:05, 3:13:10]: All right. And you heard a lot, probably a lot about the Brewster coming up. Boosters are starting to be available for folks as well. [3:13:14, 3:13:23]: 95% of the people that are in a hospital, ICUs or on ventilators, are unvaccinated citizens. 95%. [3:13:24, 3:13:37]: Yes, it is it is true that um a science says the document data says if you take if you get vaccinated, it's a small percentage of people, very small percentage of people can actually get COVID-19 after you after you've been vaccinated. [3:13:38, 3:13:39]: Very small. [3:13:39, 3:13:39]: But [3:13:40, 3:13:48]: The good thing about that is, you know, if you happen to get it, you're only gonna be sick for a few days. You're not gonna be in a hospital, you're not gonna be on a ventilator, and you're not gonna be on your deathbed. [3:13:48, 3:13:50]: Still best to get vaccinated. [3:13:50, 3:13:58]: It's a very high transmission rate from ages 11 to 17 for COVID 19 and Deltavirus. Our school kids, our children. [3:14:00, 3:14:05]: They're the ones that are getting highly affected now these days. And they're the ones that have to stay home, be quarantined. [3:14:06, 3:14:12]: Matter of fact, I still think there probably only six, there's six schools are probably shut down in Henry County thus far for a number of [3:14:12, 3:14:15]: particular case of a kids, staff, or whatever the case may be. [3:14:17, 3:14:24]: So the high the highest level of uh weekly outbreaks are from the K to twelve students in schools. [3:14:25, 3:14:28]: So once again, if you're unvaccinated. [3:14:28, 3:14:34]: You're highly susceptible to getting the delta virus ver uh virus. All right. So the key is getting. [3:14:35, 3:14:43]: The vaccination. So another little fact that you need to know, folks, especially when folks aren't vaccinated, is that um I found out Monday that Primont Henry. [3:14:44, 3:14:52]: besides the hospitals in the uh in the state of Georgia and and this part of the country, the southeastern region, are getting short on oxygen. [3:14:53, 3:14:55]: Oxygen shortages are coming up now. [3:14:56, 3:15:02]: So otherwise, if you're not vaccinated, you're in a hospital in a in a ventilator or ICU. [3:15:02, 3:15:05]: limited amount of oxygen and obviously you need oxygen to stay alive. [3:15:06, 3:15:09]: So oxygen is is in short supply. [3:15:09, 3:15:11]: You can help that situation by what? [3:15:12, 3:15:14]: Getting vaccinated, right? [3:15:14, 3:15:16]: And that way you won't have to worry about oxygen. [3:15:16, 3:15:20]: It's your choice, your adults, your grown folks, your choices. [3:15:20, 3:15:22]: But please take care of yourself, take care of your children. [3:15:22, 3:15:29]: Because they provide they you yeah they'll look up to you to save them and keep them alive and they have a future. [3:15:29, 3:15:46]: in this aspect. So take it serious folks. I mean it's just uh it well just take it serious. Cause if you don't, unfortunately we may be telling you so long, bye bye, go see the good Lord. I don't want to see the Lord anytime soon, not face to face. And hopefully you don't either. [3:15:47, 3:15:50]: But anyway, keep the faith. All right, let me read some other messages here. [3:15:51, 3:15:56]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting, second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. Next meetings on September 10th. [3:15:58, 3:16:04]: Now our next city council meeting six PM by way of Zoom, Monday, uh second Monday of each month, which is next is September 14th. [3:16:05, 3:16:18]: Um matter of fact, what's not on here, we'll have a budget retreat from the seventh uh 15th of September to the to the 17th of September is a budget retreat for uh 2022, by the way. And that'll be by way of Zoom. [3:16:18, 3:16:25]: New council meeting, 5 30 um second Wednesday of east month, eight uh September eighth is the date. [3:16:25, 3:16:39]: Downtown Development Authority meeting, 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, and that'd be September 21st. New Council Advisory Committee meeting, 6.30 by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is September 21st. [3:16:40, 3:16:53]: The planning commission meeting, 630, Zoom, fourth Thursday of each month is also 23rd of September. And the next city council work session will be the last Tuesday of each month, which is the 28th of September. [3:16:53, 3:16:58]: City initiatives. Please join Councilwoman Barber at Mermanus Conference Center for free. [3:16:58, 3:17:01]: Free Zumba Fitness in the Park this Saturday. [3:17:01, 3:17:03]: And every Saturday, she says. [3:17:04, 3:17:06]: Due to the twenty fifth, nine AM [3:17:07, 3:17:11]: And what says Clark Park here? Go on g get exercise. [3:17:11, 3:17:12]: Wear a mask. [3:17:12, 3:17:13]: Get yourself healthy. [3:17:14, 3:17:15]: Get vaccinated. [3:17:16, 3:17:18]: All right. Live a long life, right? [3:17:18, 3:17:21]: I'm sorry, that's extra commentary. Excuse me. [3:17:21, 3:17:31]: Meet the mayor. Yeah, come meet me and voice your uh questions and concerns Monday, September twentieth, uh ten AM to noon. That'll be by way of Zoom as well. [3:17:31, 3:17:39]: And this last little comment here, statement here, it says here Stockbridge Amphitheater Event. You ever heard of such a thing? Y'all know anything about that? [3:17:40, 3:17:49]: Stockbridge Amazon Grand Opening featuring who? Award-winning musical giants. Gladys Knight, Patty LaBelle. Have you heard of them? [3:17:50, 3:17:51]: Fantastic entertainers. [3:17:52, 3:17:54]: September twenty fifth, seven PM. [3:17:55, 3:18:02]: We will not close the amphitheater down till 11, by the way, now. And we gotta work out some other issues too for the citizens around the area. [3:18:03, 3:18:08]: Listen, tickets go on sale September first. Guess what, folks? That's tomorrow. [3:18:08, 3:18:10]: You ready? Tomorrow. [3:18:11, 3:18:13]: Go visit Stockbridge. [3:18:13, 3:18:14]: AMP AMP [3:18:15, 3:18:17]: Даткам прочь тикет tomorrow. [3:18:18, 3:18:22]: It's a range of tickets, range of uh cost factors depending on where you want to be. All right. [3:18:23, 3:18:23]: But hey. [3:18:24, 3:18:25]: Enjoy yourself. I'm excited. [3:18:26, 3:18:32]: I'm ready to party. I'm ready to lose some weight that night. I'm gonna be partying up a time fro ready. And I know you are too. [3:18:33, 3:18:40]: Tomorrow folks, matter of fact, don't crash the website, please. Okay? That's an inside joke, right? Anyway. [3:18:41, 3:18:42]: On that note, I'm gonna be quiet. [3:18:43, 3:18:45]: Council, we need to go to second session. [3:18:45, 3:18:49]: Or attorneys, I should say, do we need to go to psycho session? We have any issues that we need to talk about. [3:18:50, 3:19:00]: Yeah, nothing so far. All right. If we have nothing, if there's nothing for us to hope, then I need a motion to end our city council council work session. [3:19:01, 3:19:03]: Okay. Almost. [3:19:03, 3:19:07]: So move, Miss Gas is too move. What's wrong, sir? Okay, I'm sorry. [3:19:09, 3:19:15]: I thought there was one one item I did want to update the council about. And it has to be in the negative session, sir. [3:19:15, 3:19:16]: Yes, it's a personnel item. [3:19:17, 3:19:20]: Personal item, okay. Yes. All right. [3:19:20, 3:19:21]: Some [3:19:21, 3:19:25]: Well let's go uh I'll make a motion to go into executive session for [3:19:25, 3:19:28]: personnel, real estate and litigation. [3:19:28, 3:19:29]: All right, there's a second. [3:19:30, 3:19:32]: I think Mr. Robert Secusette. [3:19:32, 3:19:34]: All in favor, please indicate. [3:19:35, 3:19:47]: All right, looks like dynamic decisions. Okay, folks, uh we will go to the Zegler session. Citizens will be back. Uh Vanessa, I'm you gonna send us a different link there, ma'am? Or uh [3:19:49, 3:19:56]: Ms. Or or IT's got to send us a different link to get in the segment session. Yes, sir. I'll send it to you. Thank you. Very much. I'll see y'all in about 10 minutes. [3:20:01, 3:20:02]: Who wanna sag? [3:20:03, 3:20:06]: Thank you, Mr. Bond. Appreciate it. [3:20:12, 3:20:19]: All right, Mr. Knighton, you got your marching orders, sir, again. [3:20:20, 3:20:21]: Yeah. [3:20:22, 3:20:32]: I think we're on. Are we on Facebook Live? Yeah we are yeah we are. We're we're we're recording. We're recording. I don't know if it's Facebook Live, but we're recording. We are recording. Um [3:20:33, 3:20:36]: So as soon as we got turning got to see [3:20:36, 3:20:42]: Clerk, manager, see manager, just need uh Barber back, we'll get started. [3:20:48, 3:21:05]: So what it so I I guess uh it's recording Facebook. I don't know if you need Facebook live now or not, but if we need that we oh I see it says recording here. I don't know if this uh anything else. Look like it's uh anything else here. Let's see, where's Barber here? Oh here she comes. Okay. [3:21:09, 3:21:14]: All right. All right. Okay. Here we go. There we go. Now we're gone. [3:21:15, 3:21:21]: All right. Fantastic. All right, Council, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. [3:21:22, 3:21:28]: Some move some move for Barber, second for Alexander, got it. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [3:21:29, 3:21:49]: Okay. All right. Thank you very much. And then motion to reconvene our council work session, please. So moved. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Okay. Mr. Thomas seconds that all in favor, please indicate. Okay, thank you very much. Okay, uh Mr. [3:21:49, 3:22:08]: Ms. Holiday, you realize that we made note that we're missing a couple council members, but we have a quorum. Yes. Okay, good deal. Okay, council. I need a motion to end our city council meeting, please. So move. Okay. Mr. Thomas. Miss Barber second that. Ms. Barber second that. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [3:22:09, 3:22:16]: All right. We got three we got uh uh three votes. All right. Good night, ladies and gentlemen. See you later. [3:22:16, 3:22:17]: All right.
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    --- title: August 16 2021 City Council Meeting date: 2021-08-16 source: 2021-08-16_August_16_2021_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:36, 0:00:40]: Good evening, folks. How you doing? It's Mayor Ford. [0:00:46, 0:00:47]: Good evening. [0:01:10, 0:01:11]: Yeah, it's [0:01:11, 0:01:15]: [ 75.4, 76.5]: [0:01:52, 0:02:00]: IT support. It's Mayor Ford here. I got a request that you make me the once we get started that you make me the co-host, please. [0:02:01, 0:02:02]: You're already called, you're good. [0:02:02, 0:02:03]: Okay, thank you very much. [0:03:54, 0:03:55]: So now you're unmuted. [0:03:58, 0:03:58]: Right. [0:03:59, 0:04:07]: You're unmuted right now, so just give me a thumbs up. Mute until the mayor gives me another thumbs up. He can hear you. [0:04:07, 0:04:08]: I'm ready. [0:04:08, 0:04:10]: Yeah, he's muted. [0:09:35, 0:09:37]: Good evening, everyone. [0:09:39, 0:09:43]: Evening um Caswan Barber. How you doing? [0:09:44, 0:09:45]: Good evening. [0:10:06, 0:10:09]: Thank you. [0:10:10, 0:10:14]: [617.3, 617.9]: Okay, just [0:10:41, 0:10:44]: I do Ms. Knight and uh Councilwoman Gantt. [0:10:45, 0:10:46]: [646.7, 647.2]: No. [0:10:48, 0:10:49]: Hello, maybe four. [0:10:49, 0:10:49]: Alrighty. [0:10:50, 0:10:53]: We are now live on Facebook, by the way, just to let you know. [0:11:03, 0:11:05]: Councilman Thomas, good evening to you as well. [0:11:08, 0:11:09]: How you doing, sir? [0:11:09, 0:11:11]: Just fine, sir. Absolutely. [0:11:11, 0:11:11]: Thank you. [0:11:22, 0:11:27]: Well we have a quorum, but we don't have our clerk and we don't have our attorneys. [0:11:33, 0:11:36]: We got a few minutes left though. It's got a few minutes still. [0:12:49, 0:12:50]: Hello everyone. [0:12:50, 0:12:51]: All right. How you doing, John? [0:12:52, 0:12:57]: And miss Ms. Holliday, I'm glad to see you there as well. Good evening to you, Ms. Holliday. [0:12:58, 0:13:01]: It looks like I'm having a little trouble with my video. [0:13:01, 0:13:02]: Okay. [0:13:03, 0:13:04]: I can hear you loud and clear. [0:13:05, 0:13:06]: But that's good. [0:13:06, 0:13:07]: All right. [0:13:10, 0:13:13]: Mr Knighton, sir, if you could could you touch base with our attorneys, please? [0:13:17, 0:13:18]: Yes, I will. [0:13:18, 0:13:19]: Thank you very much. [0:13:23, 0:13:25]: Mr. Blount's coming in. Good evening. [0:13:26, 0:13:27]: Yes, yes, ma'am. How you doing? [0:13:28, 0:13:31]: Doing well, thank you. All righty. Good evening, Ms. Blount. [0:13:45, 0:13:45]: Yeah. [0:14:13, 0:14:17]: We are now live on Facebook as well, ladies and gentlemen. Just so you know. [0:14:27, 0:14:30]: All right, there's Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. Good evening to you, sir. [0:14:42, 0:14:46]: Justin, can you hear me? You gotcha. We hear it just fine. [0:14:46, 0:14:49]: Thank you, sir. How are you? All right. All right. [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Three weeks. [0:14:52, 0:14:53]: All right. [0:14:58, 0:14:59]: Ah, here we go. [0:15:14, 0:15:15]: Good evening, Mr Washington. [0:15:21, 0:15:23]: Oh, there we go. Good evening. All righty. [0:15:24, 0:15:25]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have [0:15:26, 0:15:28]: What time is it? I have six oh one. [0:15:29, 0:15:42]: We have a quorum, we have the clerk, and we have our attorneys. So uh like to call our council meeting for Monday, August 16th to order. And on that note, uh Councilwoman Gantt, could you give the invocation, please? [0:15:51, 0:15:53]: Ms. Gann, I can't hear you. You're muted. [0:15:56, 0:15:57]: Sorry about that. [0:15:57, 0:15:59]: We'll ready it, please. [0:15:59, 0:16:00]: Let us bow our heads in prayer. [0:16:02, 0:16:03]: Фада, ви тэнку. [0:16:04, 0:16:07]: For those men and women who serve in leadership roles. [0:16:09, 0:16:12]: Lord, we ask that you be with them and their families. [0:16:13, 0:16:16]: As they do this with the kindness of their hearts. [0:16:18, 0:16:22]: Father, we are so grateful for our staff leaders. [0:16:22, 0:16:30]: We ask that you n that they have they have such an important role and job in keeping our office running as they should. [0:16:31, 0:16:34]: Thank you for the ways you have gifted them to support us. [0:16:34, 0:16:46]: Wrap your arms around these men and women to show them love, grace, strength, and encouragement. Provide them with knowledge needed to approach each situation in the best way possible. [0:16:47, 0:16:48]: Help them to know. [0:16:48, 0:16:51]: You and see your presence, Father. [0:16:52, 0:16:55]: Lord, we also ask and we are also so grateful. [0:16:55, 0:17:04]: To be living in a democracy where many play a part in making sure the needs and desires of the nation's citizens are heard and met. [0:17:05, 0:17:08]: As our leaders work together to find solutions to difficult problems. [0:17:09, 0:17:15]: We ask that you guide them to speak respectfully and with humility to one another. [0:17:15, 0:17:23]: Help them to show Christ-like love to those they interact with and be an advocate for the constituents and others. [0:17:24, 0:17:26]: Father, we also pray. [0:17:26, 0:17:33]: For our education system right now, Father, as our children are in school and beginning to go to school. [0:17:33, 0:17:36]: We pray for the families who are going through. [0:17:36, 0:17:43]: This pandemic right now, who has been who've been tested positive for COVID and for our community and those who [0:17:43, 0:17:53]: are are in harm's way. Lord, we pray for our first responders. We pray for our hospitals. We pray for our community. [0:17:53, 0:17:57]: We pray for our leaders to do the right thing, Lord, at this time. [0:17:57, 0:17:59]: And we ask for your guidance. [0:18:00, 0:18:01]: We ask for your mercy. [0:18:02, 0:18:05]: In your name I in in your name we pray. Amen. [0:18:05, 0:18:06]: Amen. [0:18:06, 0:18:09]: Ladies and gentlemen, if you can stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. [0:18:12, 0:18:17]: A pleasure of allegiance to the flag. [0:18:17, 0:18:18]: To the public. [0:18:18, 0:18:26]: For two stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:18:29, 0:18:31]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:18:32, 0:18:32]: Mayor Ford. [0:18:33, 0:18:34]: Present. [0:18:34, 0:18:35]: May approach him, Alexander. [0:18:36, 0:18:36]: President. [0:18:37, 0:18:38]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:18:38, 0:18:39]: Is it? [0:18:39, 0:18:40]: Councilman Blount. [0:18:41, 0:18:41]: Ready. [0:18:42, 0:18:43]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:18:43, 0:18:44]: Present. [0:18:44, 0:18:46]: Councilman Thomas. [0:18:46, 0:18:47]: President. [0:18:47, 0:18:53]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:18:54, 0:18:56]: So moved. Is there a second? [0:18:58, 0:18:59]: Okay, Miss Barber, second that. [0:19:00, 0:19:01]: All favor, please indicate. [0:19:01, 0:19:03]: Sir, I can ask a question. [0:19:04, 0:19:04]: Right. [0:19:04, 0:19:05]: It w [0:19:05, 0:19:06]: What's that, sir? [0:19:07, 0:19:10]: Do we have a I thought we had an addition for the alliance? [0:19:10, 0:19:16]: Uh for the contract or do we not have one additional? [0:19:16, 0:19:18]: All right, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:19:20, 0:19:22]: Okay, see now Cis. Thank you very much. [0:19:22, 0:19:23]: Thank you. All right. [0:19:24, 0:19:38]: Um what we also have, ladies and gentlemen, is we have the adoption of the minutes for the following meetings, the uh council meeting on uh June 14th and the council work session on June 29th. Is there a motion to accept these particular minutes? [0:19:39, 0:19:41]: Okay. Is there a sec is a second? [0:19:42, 0:19:44]: Ms. Barber seconded that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:19:46, 0:19:48]: Thank you very much. Unanimous decision. All right. [0:19:48, 0:19:51]: Um Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [0:19:51, 0:20:05]: No public comments, Mayor. Okay, great. Fantastic. Old business. Council consideration to approve the amendment of job descriptions for executive assistant to mayor and council and admin assistant to the mayor and council positions. Ms. Wheeler, please. [0:20:06, 0:20:08]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:20:08, 0:20:13]: Good evening. Um we're back again to talk about the um [0:20:14, 0:20:18]: approve revisions of the administrative clerk, which will now become an administrative [0:20:19, 0:20:22]: Assistant full time and the executive assistant. [0:20:22, 0:20:23]: Job duties. [0:20:24, 0:20:27]: Requesting your approval for both positions. [0:20:28, 0:20:31]: Okay, council, any questions at all uh for Miss Wheeler? [0:20:32, 0:20:34]: I do. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, Councilman Barber. [0:20:35, 0:20:41]: Ms. Wheeler, I know that in the job description it mentions about researching information. [0:20:41, 0:20:41]: Um [0:20:42, 0:20:45]: With my suggestion, I wanted it to be specific. [0:20:46, 0:20:46]: That they [0:20:47, 0:20:49]: і responsible for researching [0:20:49, 0:20:51]: Reaction items. [0:20:51, 0:20:52]: Oh big. [0:20:52, 0:20:54]: council's meeting. [0:20:54, 0:20:59]: Are we able to add that to the job description or is it necessary for it for us to add that? [0:21:02, 0:21:08]: In the administrative assistant or the executive assistant job description. [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: The executive assistant. [0:21:11, 0:21:16]: We can add there add that or just revise that um statement. [0:21:16, 0:21:18]: That particular task to say [0:21:19, 0:21:19]: Um [0:21:20, 0:21:21]: Action items. [0:21:21, 0:21:28]: Okay. So Mayor, if there are no other comments or discussion, I'd like to make a motion, please. So go right in. [0:21:29, 0:21:38]: Okay, I motion that we approve the two full-time positions for the executive assistant and for the administrative assistant. [0:21:39, 0:21:40]: For the executive [0:21:41, 0:21:43]: Existent role. [0:21:44, 0:21:47]: Revise the job description to include [0:21:48, 0:21:51]: Seventy five percent of the time would be spent. [0:21:52, 0:21:52]: Um [0:21:53, 0:21:55]: following through with those action items. [0:21:56, 0:21:58]: At the direction of the council. [0:22:00, 0:22:02]: Okay. Is there is there a second field of motion? [0:22:03, 0:22:07]: Is there a second to the motion? Mr. Blount, do you second that motion? I have a question. [0:22:08, 0:22:09]: All right. [0:22:10, 0:22:11]: Okay, sir, what's your question? [0:22:12, 0:22:18]: I'm sorry, because we're gonna be we're gonna be voting yeah or nay on on this item. How do you determine 75%? [0:22:21, 0:22:22]: Thank you. [0:22:22, 0:22:27]: We can remove the percentage, but just with the understanding that the majority of the job. [0:22:27, 0:22:29]: The primary role of this job. [0:22:30, 0:22:32]: Is so that they would follow up. [0:22:33, 0:22:36]: on all of those action items after every meeting. [0:22:37, 0:22:37]: That's all. [0:22:37, 0:22:44]: Well well then another question if you don't mind, Mayor, before we go ahead, please. Is that and I'm okay with [0:22:44, 0:22:49]: Amending that portion of because we can't determine 75%. [0:22:50, 0:23:03]: My understanding is that with the both with the dual roles, one would be administrative and one would be uh more of on the crafty side towards uh uh initiative events, uh if that's my understanding. [0:23:03, 0:23:04]: Um [0:23:05, 0:23:15]: So have we gotten something with the j with the um uh wage, with the uh um range of salaries on this? I I don't recall seeing anything on that. [0:23:16, 0:23:18]: On the administrative assistant. [0:23:19, 0:23:21]: The um [0:23:23, 0:23:26]: For the administrative assistant, we would have to [0:23:26, 0:23:29]: If it goes from full time, it would become a full time position. [0:23:30, 0:23:31]: Um [0:23:31, 0:23:51]: Ms. Wheeler, I'm I'm not, I'm sorry to cut you off. I'm not asking you to give that out over the air like that. I'm just uh I just don't remember us getting anything as a counsel on a range of of salaries for those two positions. If you sent it out, I just don't remember getting it. That's all. I mean you I'm not I'm not asking you that to go through it. [0:23:51, 0:24:05]: Um, because I think that that salary range or something that we uh we're in agreement with that because it deals with personnel. I just wanted to make uh I don't know if you sent that out, if you sent it out to us. I had I believe I sent it out at the last council meeting. [0:24:06, 0:24:08]: um briefly what the amount would be. [0:24:09, 0:24:11]: On this particular, excuse me. [0:24:11, 0:24:12]: On both positions. [0:24:13, 0:24:18]: No, the the salary did not change on the executive assistant. [0:24:18, 0:24:19]: Position. [0:24:19, 0:24:27]: On the admin, we would have to add additional monies because it was going from part-time to full time. [0:24:27, 0:24:30]: So there would be an additional cost. [0:24:30, 0:24:32]: Um adding benefits. [0:24:32, 0:24:37]: Um to that position. I believe we had submitted that at the last meeting. [0:24:37, 0:24:40]: I see on this particular um [0:24:40, 0:24:47]: document it was not on there, but it was just requested to have the position go to a full time position. [0:24:47, 0:24:48]: Okay, thank you. [0:24:49, 0:24:53]: I would imagine my assumption that we'll talk further about this at a budget retreat the next month. [0:24:54, 0:24:57]: Correct. Okay. Um Miss Scant. [0:24:57, 0:25:03]: Thank you. I'm not in favor. I think it's broad. Research is uh is fine. [0:25:04, 0:25:08]: If we fine tune it, then we are pinpointing what direction. [0:25:08, 0:25:15]: We all want the executive assistance to go and I think we all will have different needs for the executive assistance assistance. [0:25:16, 0:25:19]: I would expect Mr. Knighton to give me an update. [0:25:20, 0:25:23]: um on the task at hand. [0:25:23, 0:25:31]: Um I've I've spoken of that before. Um any of the action items that we have tasked him to [0:25:32, 0:25:33]: Have his staff uh [0:25:34, 0:25:34]: Two [0:25:34, 0:25:36]: Go ahead and proceed with [0:25:37, 0:25:41]: That's what I expect. I expect a a response back from him from that. [0:25:42, 0:25:42]: Um [0:25:43, 0:25:45]: Or his assistant? [0:25:45, 0:25:50]: to receive to give us that information. But I think if I were to narrow down [0:25:51, 0:25:58]: And say, okay, I'm gonna have seventy-five percent or I'm gonna have that person do nothing but strictly research or majority research. [0:25:58, 0:26:00]: I think we would kind of be shooting ourselves in the foot. [0:26:01, 0:26:05]: I like the fact that we have a a a full time and a part time. [0:26:05, 0:26:12]: And they work together. You there are gonna be times where there are gonna be multiple events at the same time. There'll be times where um [0:26:12, 0:26:16]: We may need them to both be all hands in. [0:26:16, 0:26:20]: And so I'm okay with the job description that Miss Wheeler [0:26:20, 0:26:21]: Head stated. [0:26:21, 0:26:23]: Because it's broad. [0:26:23, 0:26:29]: And it allows for research in general. So if Councilwoman Barber wanted the action items. [0:26:30, 0:26:36]: to get answers to then so be it. If I wanted something else, so be it. Um I think that [0:26:36, 0:26:40]: You know, if she's gonna get the action items, she gets them for all. [0:26:41, 0:26:47]: That's that's gonna be up to mayor council, so be it. But I I definitely um [0:26:48, 0:26:54]: want to be mindful of job roles and responsibilities that we currently have. [0:26:54, 0:26:57]: And I just think that if we have the two [0:26:57, 0:27:00]: The executive and the assistant executive. [0:27:00, 0:27:02]: Um, full time and part time. [0:27:02, 0:27:06]: that they'll work hand in hand in general. And I understood what councilman [0:27:07, 0:27:11]: Um, Thomas had been saying about the need and we will have that need. [0:27:11, 0:27:18]: You'll have someone working on events. And to me, that could be understood, but there'll still be times where they have to work together. [0:27:18, 0:27:21]: with with different, you know, combining roles. [0:27:22, 0:27:28]: Yeah. Yeah, scam my council Councilman Thomas. Hold on. Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:27:28, 0:27:29]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:27:30, 0:27:32]: I I would recommend the language [0:27:33, 0:27:36]: speak to um as needed. [0:27:36, 0:27:38]: And including [0:27:39, 0:27:41]: Uh you know, those kind of terms. [0:27:41, 0:27:43]: I don't know if you can put a [0:27:43, 0:27:45]: Percentage on it. [0:27:45, 0:27:50]: Uh that kind of thing. I I think normally the the language says [0:27:50, 0:27:53]: uh inclusive of and as needed. [0:27:53, 0:27:55]: And then that way. [0:27:55, 0:27:56]: Whatever [0:27:56, 0:27:59]: Uh, the issue is at that moment in time. [0:27:59, 0:28:00]: Um [0:28:00, 0:28:03]: those staff folks can be directed. [0:28:04, 0:28:11]: uh to to do that. I I don't think we should put it in a box, if you will. Um, but I just think um [0:28:11, 0:28:17]: uh as needed and Mrs. Wheeler you probably can speak to normally on the job description there's uh [0:28:17, 0:28:23]: a statement at the bottom of the job description that it that is an inclusive [0:28:23, 0:28:27]: uh statement. So uh Mrs. Twiller, could you read that that last [0:28:28, 0:28:30]: statement that's typically uh on the job description. [0:28:31, 0:28:34]: Performs job related duties as assigned. [0:28:35, 0:28:39]: Yes. And I think when you include that then that covers [0:28:39, 0:28:55]: everything that is really needed. I don't think we need to put a time limit on it or put it in a box. Um, you know, you have six elected officials and all of us may need um, you know, certain things. And I think that's the way it should be. [0:28:56, 0:29:05]: Thank you, Mayor. No, no, you're welcome, sir. Mayor Pro Tam, go ahead, please. Okay, I just want some clarification. Uh it was mentioned that there are part there's a part time and full time [0:29:05, 0:29:09]: Or uh is the suggestion not to go with both of them full time? [0:29:11, 0:29:20]: That's that's the that's the proposal, right? I think it's a part-time and full time. They're both full time, is that correct? That's my understanding. Both positions are full time. [0:29:21, 0:29:30]: Okay. That that's my understanding too. I just want to make sure we're all on the same page that the positions are both full time because this is a very taxing position. [0:29:30, 0:29:31]: And uh we need [0:29:31, 0:29:36]: uh all hands on deck to get what we're trying to get done done. So both full time positions. [0:29:36, 0:29:37]: All right. [0:29:37, 0:29:42]: I'm coming back to you, uh, Councilman Barber. You've heard all the other discussions. Do you want to [0:29:42, 0:29:49]: Uh change anything on that particular motion since you it wasn't seconded, but if you want to change anything or just let it be and we just go ahead and vote. What you desire now. [0:29:50, 0:29:57]: No, my motion still stands. Okay, could you restate your motion to make sure that the clerk has it proper and everybody understands? [0:29:57, 0:30:02]: Okay. Um Miss Holliday, can you read back what the motion was, please? [0:30:04, 0:30:14]: Yes, your motion is for the executive assistant role. You wanted it to be revised to include it was originally seventy five percent, then changed to majority of the time. [0:30:14, 0:30:19]: Following through with the actions items that come from the council meetings. [0:30:19, 0:30:20]: That's correct. [0:30:21, 0:30:31]: So all I'm asking is that you include the responsibility of following through with the action items that derive from all of our council meetings. That's all. [0:30:32, 0:30:34]: I'm not saying remove anything else. [0:30:35, 0:30:41]: I'm just saying add specifically the role the responsibility of following through with the action items. [0:30:41, 0:30:42]: That's all. [0:30:42, 0:30:44]: All right. Is there a second to that motion? [0:30:46, 0:30:48]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:30:50, 0:30:53]: Motion is nasal second, so that motion now has failed. Is there another motion? [0:30:54, 0:30:57]: I I like a question. I have a question. I just want to make [0:30:57, 0:31:04]: Ms. Wheeler, is this motion already inclusive of the item that Ms. Barber is asking for? [0:31:06, 0:31:07]: Yep. [0:31:07, 0:31:14]: Basically you have in there where the person researches and gathers information. [0:31:14, 0:31:15]: Um [0:31:16, 0:31:17]: And providing information. [0:31:18, 0:31:22]: Which is vr is general and can include can be inclusive of [0:31:23, 0:31:27]: That statement. So if there is a specific request. [0:31:27, 0:31:32]: Um from council I could put I.E. parentheses action items. [0:31:32, 0:31:43]: As an example, under employee is also responsible for performing research and providing information, parentheses, i.e., action items from council, parentheses. [0:31:44, 0:31:48]: And let it go as that under the purpose of the classification. [0:31:49, 0:31:53]: So in other so in other words, if any council member [0:31:53, 0:31:59]: Wanted 75% or whatever, 100% if they wanted at the time they interact. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: with the this assistant [0:32:02, 0:32:08]: Uh they could do that. Is that correct? Right. But if you were requesting a hundred percent of the time for that [0:32:09, 0:32:21]: As an example, then you would not be allowing the person to perform any other tasks for any other council member. So you don't want to put a time limit a percentage. [0:32:21, 0:32:24]: to a Pacific duty because it would not allow the person [0:32:24, 0:32:27]: To perform the other duties that may come to them. [0:32:28, 0:32:32]: um from any other council member, if you understand? [0:32:32, 0:32:41]: No, well no, what I'm j I get let me clarify is that if Councilwoman Barber wanted to call in and get this information specifically [0:32:41, 0:32:43]: at the rate that she wanted to get it at. [0:32:44, 0:32:46]: Prote for say for her. [0:32:46, 0:32:47]: Uh [0:32:47, 0:32:53]: pro uh information and she wants to be informed for these meetings, she have every right to do that currently. [0:32:53, 0:33:00]: Right, because that's a part of the performing research and providing information. Right. That that's what I that's what I think. [0:33:01, 0:33:01]: Okay. [0:33:01, 0:33:16]: And and on that note, once again, is at the bottom of the description, it indicates uh all like all duties assigned. So I mean that that's an all inclusive type of statement anyway. Okay, so okay, thank you. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:33:16, 0:33:36]: Yeah, I think mine was kind of in line with uh Mr. Alexander's that uh if if we wanted a follow-up with information coming from Mr. Knighton, if we want to go to Mr. Knighton, that's fine. But if we wanted to go through the executive assistance, if because it was uh an action item, that that uh information still could be. [0:33:36, 0:33:37]: [2017.9, 2036.5]: to the council through that executive assistant versus going directly to Mr. Knighton. Um but I think that we need to do we do need to make it where it's not so much uh and I think it's already written that way, where it's not just those duties because there's gonna be a range of uh [0:33:56, 0:34:07]: um clerical duties as well as other uh items that we're gonna probably need from executive assistant to marry council when it comes to now having two people aboard. [0:34:07, 0:34:27]: There's gonna be a range of things that's gonna be needed. And I don't wanna sit up here and and and and um box us in with this opportunity to uh have uh something that would that is well needed. So I I think that the question is being answered. I just wanna make sure the motion is in place that we don't box this person in for [0:34:27, 0:34:33]: anybody. And I think that what's already been presented is that this these duties are already going to be there anyway. [0:34:34, 0:34:36]: Thank you. Miss Kant, please, go ahead. [0:34:36, 0:34:41]: Thank you. Um, and thank you, Mayor Pro Tem, for the clarification on the full time versus part time. [0:34:41, 0:34:42]: Um [0:34:42, 0:34:43]: with that. [0:34:43, 0:34:44]: Um [0:34:44, 0:34:51]: Having said that, I would like to make a motion to approve the job descriptions as read by Ms. Weller. [0:34:52, 0:34:55]: All right. Stand by, please. Councilman Thomas, go ahead. [0:34:56, 0:34:59]: Yeah, I I want to say to Councilwoman Barber. [0:34:59, 0:35:10]: Um that that is the problem that I have with your motion, uh that you're putting a a time limit uh on that. And I I think it's very clear. [0:35:11, 0:35:12]: That the dude is [0:35:13, 0:35:15]: Um it's all inclusive. [0:35:16, 0:35:24]: And and they can actually do those things. But I'm just having a problem with the motion with the time limit. I I I can't approve of the motion. [0:35:24, 0:35:35]: with the with the time limit because as Mrs. Wheeler stated, then you are um putting this person in a box whereas they may not be able to do [0:35:36, 0:35:38]: And carry out the other functions. [0:35:38, 0:35:53]: that that is needed. And so that that's a problem I have with that. But let me ask uh Mr. Knighton, um he is present this evening. Yeah, yeah, he's he's present. So let let me let me direct this question to Mr. Knighton. Um [0:35:54, 0:35:55]: Uh Mr. Nighting sir. [0:35:58, 0:36:18]: Yes, yes, Councilman. Oh okay. In in the job description for the executive to the city manager, um this duty or duties that we are talking about here, can you share some light on that as far as um your assistance uh being able to [0:36:18, 0:36:23]: to provide uh this information. Is this a part of that job description to [0:36:24, 0:36:28]: uh update a follow up with the council on those kind of items. [0:36:28, 0:36:29]: Can you share some light on that? [0:36:30, 0:36:36]: I I don't think it's specific to the council. Obviously the executive assistant would be assisting me and as the council [0:36:37, 0:36:43]: uh needs and needs information, obviously um she in this case would be able to [0:36:43, 0:36:46]: Provide whatever research and or information to me. [0:36:47, 0:36:49]: Specifically that I can provide to the council. [0:36:49, 0:36:57]: Um, one of the things I would mention as well, and I know that um uh the issue of projects and so forth came up, action items. [0:36:57, 0:37:01]: Um, I think I'd mentioned previously, in fact, I had a conversation today with [0:37:02, 0:37:02]: Um [0:37:03, 0:37:07]: Even Falcon design and I know Mr. Aaron who's on here, I believe. [0:37:08, 0:37:10]: Has provided all of his projects to um [0:37:11, 0:37:11]: Yeah. [0:37:12, 0:37:17]: Carl Kick and Wood is his Falcon is providing theirs, his Carter Sloop is providing theirs to have a master. [0:37:18, 0:37:20]: Смартшіт в Аллате проєкте он. [0:37:21, 0:37:25]: With timelines, um with benchmarks. [0:37:25, 0:37:28]: and status updates that can be that can be updated. [0:37:28, 0:37:33]: um on a regular basis. And so I think maybe some of that is [0:37:33, 0:37:36]: Related to something like that is currently in process. [0:37:37, 0:37:39]: Um but obviously my executive assistant to your question. [0:37:40, 0:37:40]: Um [0:37:40, 0:37:44]: Would provide whatever research is needed per council's request to me. [0:37:45, 0:37:48]: And me following up with the council and providing that information back to you. [0:37:49, 0:37:55]: So I and I I'm I'm trying to pinpoint the issue and I think I understand where Mrs. Barber is coming from. [0:37:55, 0:38:01]: And I'm trying to see if I can state this correctly. I think she is asking for a follow up. [0:38:02, 0:38:02]: Um [0:38:03, 0:38:23]: Actions I know she said action minutes, but from from the meetings or whatever, she's asking for follow-up. So and I'm assuming, and I'm not putting words in Councilwoman Barber's mouth, I'm assuming that there is a void or a lack of follow-up uh on action. [0:38:23, 0:38:26]: That are being taken. [0:38:26, 0:38:46]: And I and I do understand that, and I do understand that uh that is a need. So that's why I want to pose that question to you. But uh again, I think Councilwoman Barber, if you ask uh the executive to the Mary and Council to give you that information and to follow up, I don't see no reason why that. [0:38:46, 0:38:58]: that it it cannot happen as far as sharing that information to all of the council members. But but again, I'm just having a problem with that with that timeline because if if you put that in there, then [0:38:58, 0:38:59]: Um [0:39:00, 0:39:12]: that that can I think that can just be a problem in the overall duties of that person being able to do all of the things uh that is going to be needed from uh six elected officials. [0:39:14, 0:39:16]: Councilman Barber, go ahead, please. [0:39:19, 0:39:20]: Um okay. [0:39:20, 0:39:28]: I know I'm the newest member to the council and I just see this as an opportunity to improve the way we've been functioning. [0:39:29, 0:39:29]: Um [0:39:30, 0:39:33]: I don't know how the executive assistant [0:39:33, 0:39:35]: the previous executive assistant. [0:39:35, 0:39:37]: Um was [0:39:38, 0:39:41]: performing her role and responsibilities, but I [0:39:41, 0:39:43]: Get the um [0:39:44, 0:39:48]: idea that she was being pulled in so many different directions. [0:39:49, 0:39:54]: There is clearly a a l a link in communications to the council. [0:39:54, 0:39:57]: a lot of the projects that were approved last year. [0:39:58, 0:40:02]: Are being delayed, or we're not getting the updates. [0:40:03, 0:40:04]: I don't wanna have to [0:40:05, 0:40:06]: Contact Mr. Knighton. [0:40:06, 0:40:09]: For the updates, if we have an executive assistant. [0:40:10, 0:40:19]: who reports directly to the mayor and council. And just for the record, you all keep mentioning about boxing in and time limits. I didn't add a time limit. [0:40:19, 0:40:22]: What I suggested was um [0:40:23, 0:40:28]: how much of their time would be spent to this primary role and responsibility. [0:40:29, 0:40:31]: Um, that's what I suggested initially. [0:40:32, 0:40:34]: I pulled back the seventy five percent. [0:40:35, 0:40:37]: And I wanted to just add the wording. [0:40:38, 0:40:40]: that the primary role and responsibility [0:40:41, 0:40:42]: Would be to follow up. [0:40:43, 0:40:46]: on the action items that come out of our council meetings. [0:40:47, 0:40:49]: A lot of those action items. [0:40:50, 0:40:54]: are not items that Mr. Knighton would be handling directly. [0:40:55, 0:40:58]: It's other staff members involved in the decisions that we make here. [0:40:59, 0:41:03]: So this individual needed to just follow up with the public works director. [0:41:04, 0:41:06]: on an item that was approved by the council. [0:41:07, 0:41:08]: They would have [0:41:08, 0:41:09]: than leverage to do so. [0:41:10, 0:41:13]: That's all I'm asking for. But nonetheless, I don't want us to [0:41:13, 0:41:15]: Take a whole lot of time with this. [0:41:16, 0:41:20]: I'm willing to approve both of these positions and move forward. [0:41:21, 0:41:27]: Matt Councilman Gamp, you made a motion. It wasn't seconded. Do you want to restate that motion so we can go forward a second? [0:41:28, 0:41:28]: Uh oh. [0:41:32, 0:41:32]: Yeah. [0:41:33, 0:41:33]: Yeah. [0:41:33, 0:41:35]: Mr. Blount, you had a question, sir? [0:41:35, 0:41:40]: Man, it wasn't sadly because questions came up. Uh I mean we're gonna prove [0:41:41, 0:42:01]: what was uh already at hand what miss wheelers has gotten which we all understand that everything is all inclusive correct that we're asking for i just sec I second it now that we go ahead and move on with the positions the two full-time positions well i want to make sure the clerks got a good motion here before we vote i made a motion to approve to approve the [0:42:01, 0:42:13]: Job descriptions as stated by Ms. Willer. As presented by Ms. Willer. All right. Because it is all inclusive. Okay. Is it a second? Mr. Blount seconds that. Okay. We've had plenty of discussion. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:42:14, 0:42:15]: All in favor? [0:42:16, 0:42:19]: Okay, everybody's that's a United Citizen. Thank you very much, folks. Okay. [0:42:20, 0:42:21]: Thank you, Ms. Wheeler. [0:42:21, 0:42:22]: Welcome. [0:42:23, 0:42:30]: New business council consideration approved the November 2021 municipal election early voting schedule. [0:42:30, 0:42:31]: Miss Holliday, please. [0:42:32, 0:42:42]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Before you is the proposed early voting schedule as submitted by the Henry County Elections Office for your approval. [0:42:44, 0:42:48]: Is there a motion to accept this uh new schedule for the I mean yes sir. [0:42:48, 0:42:50]: Can we share that for the community? [0:42:52, 0:43:05]: Yeah, we we can. It is on our site. Um I have a screen share that we can share with the community now to just so they can see uh what we're actually voting on and then uh talk about it. [0:43:09, 0:43:15]: Are you able to s uh share that, uh, Miss Holliday? I would have to scan it and then pull it up and then [0:43:15, 0:43:18]: Could you read it then? I can certainly read it. [0:43:18, 0:43:22]: Okay, go do that please. That's the that's what it is. Thank you for that. [0:43:23, 0:43:24]: One second here. [0:43:25, 0:43:27]: I apologize. Quite all right. [0:43:32, 0:43:35]: Stand by folks. Should get it in just a second. [0:43:37, 0:43:37]: All right. [0:43:38, 0:43:45]: Early voting would begin October 11th through October 15th from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. [0:43:46, 0:43:51]: October 18th through October 22nd, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. [0:43:51, 0:43:55]: October twenty third, which is a Saturday, nine AM to five PM. [0:43:56, 0:43:59]: October 25th through October 29th. [0:44:00, 0:44:01]: Nine A.M. to five PM. [0:44:02, 0:44:05]: And October thirtieth, again on a Saturday. [0:44:05, 0:44:07]: Nine a.m. to five P.M. [0:44:07, 0:44:09]: The um [0:44:09, 0:44:11]: County only. [0:44:12, 0:44:16]: uh location is going to be for the uh T S Plus ballot. [0:44:17, 0:44:18]: JP Mosele Park. [0:44:19, 0:44:21]: Miller's Mill Road. [0:44:21, 0:44:23]: Fairview Recreation Center. [0:44:23, 0:44:27]: And that's October twenty fifth through October twenty-ninth. [0:44:28, 0:44:30]: The other locations are [0:44:30, 0:44:32]: Of course the forty Atlanta street. [0:44:32, 0:44:36]: Voter elections and voter registration office, the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [0:44:36, 0:44:40]: Fortson Hampton Library and the Locust Grove Library. [0:44:41, 0:44:44]: Oh uh I'm sorry, excuse me, uh [0:44:44, 0:44:47]: I know we had talked about adding precincts. [0:44:49, 0:44:49]: Yes, we did. [0:44:50, 0:44:51]: Okay, talk about that. [0:44:53, 0:44:56]: I'm going to have to defer that to our city attorney, sir. [0:44:59, 0:45:06]: Is uh Mayor Pro Tem, we had discussions with Henry County and trying to to figure that out and [0:45:06, 0:45:09]: Long and short of it, it sort of got nowhere with the county. [0:45:10, 0:45:17]: Uh had multiple discussions with Patrick Jogstetter and the chair of the Henry County Elections Board and just trying to figure out and there was [0:45:19, 0:45:28]: sort of ran into a dead end of how to draw maps to make it work, to to have new precincts. And also the county was not sure if they even had the equipment to make all that work. [0:45:29, 0:45:33]: I th uh uh uh I'm sorry, Mayor. We were crystal clear. [0:45:33, 0:45:37]: That how we wanted to do it, we wanted to add a couple of precincts. [0:45:37, 0:45:40]: We wanted one at Red Off United Methodist, which was already [0:45:41, 0:45:42]: Uh accounties, sorry. [0:45:43, 0:45:49]: On election day that is. And then there was going to be another site uh in the south end of Stockbridge. [0:45:49, 0:45:51]: Uh as well. So voters could vote. [0:45:52, 0:46:07]: uh in multiple areas of the city. It makes no sense for voters to have to come all to downtown and vote in one location in one line uh on election day. You know, I this is the first that I've actually heard of this. No one has told us [0:46:07, 0:46:10]: uh you know that uh these things uh [0:46:11, 0:46:15]: We're not uh in the card, so I'm um I'm [0:46:16, 0:46:20]: I'm a little um I'm none of these conversations that happen with the county. [0:46:20, 0:46:22]: Have been brought to us to say [0:46:22, 0:46:42]: What the pushback is. I mean, we're paying for this. And uh in the end, uh when they came before us the last time, uh, the election officials uh seemed to be uh in agreement with this. So I I um at this point, I'm not sure. Is it do we have more time to approve this or can we continue to come? [0:46:42, 0:46:43]: Conversation. [0:46:44, 0:46:50]: I I think that this is big enough to where we need a working group between the city and the county. [0:46:50, 0:46:51]: Because [0:46:52, 0:46:59]: We had a meeting, it was Mr. Knighton, Jeremy and I, Miss Holliday, the Alexis folks from Henry County. [0:46:59, 0:47:00]: And [0:47:01, 0:47:02]: It's [0:47:02, 0:47:11]: It's a process because of what the code says about where precincts can be and then what happens when you have to change precincts to be able to notify people, et cetera. And it's [0:47:12, 0:47:14]: time tables that we're working on. [0:47:14, 0:47:18]: wouldn't work to be able to accomplish what everybody wanted to accomplish. [0:47:18, 0:47:20]: For this lecture. [0:47:21, 0:47:29]: Mr. Talzana, I can tell you that what Mr. Jock said or said in the last meeting that we had was that the census played a major role in this. [0:47:30, 0:47:34]: And that the numbers had not been and I don't know if they still have been submitted at that time. [0:47:36, 0:47:48]: I know, but the redistricting hasn't been done. I mean, the census might be out there, but it hasn't been applied to anything as far as we're concerned. So as far as I'm concerned, I'd like to continue this conversation to see whether or not [0:47:48, 0:47:50]: Uh we can improve this process. [0:47:51, 0:47:54]: Uh, because what has been presented to us to me. [0:47:54, 0:47:55]: Із нот акцептабу. [0:47:56, 0:47:58]: And uh those time fair especially. [0:47:58, 0:48:01]: For working people, nine to five don't work for them. [0:48:01, 0:48:04]: Uh, there's generally been a seven to seven. [0:48:04, 0:48:07]: Uh on the last week, so working people who [0:48:07, 0:48:08]: Work. [0:48:08, 0:48:14]: can vote before school or after after work or before work. You know, these these um [0:48:15, 0:48:26]: This this seems like a regression in terms of what we've been able to do uh in the election process. So as far as I'm concerned, I like to I like to push back a little bit harder. [0:48:26, 0:48:30]: to see whether or not um what can be done. [0:48:32, 0:48:35]: So I can a I can attest to the fact that [0:48:36, 0:48:37]: Staff. [0:48:37, 0:48:38]: Here's [0:48:38, 0:48:39]: Iterated. [0:48:39, 0:48:42]: the importance and what the council's wishes were. [0:48:42, 0:48:44]: I can tell you that we did that from our end. [0:48:45, 0:48:47]: Mr. Blount. [0:48:48, 0:48:50]: Because they are our elections. [0:48:51, 0:48:51]: coordinator. [0:48:53, 0:48:54]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:48:54, 0:49:04]: Yeah, I have to concur. I think that uh um we should have had some, I guess a little more communication on where we were with this, but um [0:49:04, 0:49:10]: Needless to say, I concur that we need to push because it it it got a little convoluted with the citizens. [0:49:10, 0:49:30]: When it came to were they able to vote certain days where the count, you know, to have to go to two locations that uh for a lot of the citizens are uh that that was a pretty rough one to say, yeah, you do have to go to two locations. When we're open and willing to uh and ready to fund those locations along with the [0:49:30, 0:49:36]: the county so the citizens in the city limits of Stockbridge can go to more than one location and vote. [0:49:37, 0:49:47]: Um it it was it it becomes a deterrent for our citizens to have that hassle put on them. Also, uh, I wanted to question because of all the all that's been going on with these uh [0:49:48, 0:49:52]: Voting boxes. Will there be any voting boxes in the city of Stockbridge or the County? [0:49:53, 0:49:54]: The uh [0:49:56, 0:49:57]: For the municipal election. [0:49:58, 0:49:59]: We don't have all. [0:50:00, 0:50:07]: those because of because of cobit they they they uh will they are they gonna open it up for that that's what i'm asking [0:50:08, 0:50:13]: That's voted on by the Henry County Elections Office. And I will tell you that we were told. [0:50:14, 0:50:16]: Even if you were to have open red oak. [0:50:16, 0:50:16]: Cause [0:50:17, 0:50:21]: People still would have had to go to two locations to vote on splash in your municipal election. [0:50:21, 0:50:25]: Because someone who votes at Pate's Creek [0:50:26, 0:50:27]: Um [0:50:27, 0:50:30]: If the red oak had become their [0:50:30, 0:50:31]: Municipal [0:50:32, 0:50:33]: Pole and location. [0:50:34, 0:50:41]: They still would have had to go to their home polling location to vote for T Sloss on election day. That is not the case for. [0:50:42, 0:50:46]: early voting, as you know, you can vote anywhere in the county on on early voting. [0:50:46, 0:50:49]: But on election day, even if you had opened Red Oak. [0:50:49, 0:50:54]: They still would have had to they could have come to Red Oak as their new precinct for municipal. [0:50:54, 0:50:57]: But still would have had to go to their home polling. [0:50:58, 0:51:00]: location for T splashed. [0:51:03, 0:51:04]: Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [0:51:05, 0:51:15]: I'm just gonna agree with my colleagues. I mean, we've seen this over and over and over again that there is a bunch of confusion when it comes to voting. It's another act of suppression. [0:51:15, 0:51:17]: Um and so [0:51:18, 0:51:24]: It is a lot of confusion. It makes no sense. If you can vote at all polling locations any other time. [0:51:24, 0:51:34]: Why can't you vote at all polling locations on election day? I mean, it's just it's it's we've we've mentioned it, we've stated it. I've spoken to um [0:51:35, 0:51:41]: The chair there. Um, and I can honestly tell you there's a lot of laws that have changed. [0:51:41, 0:51:50]: Um, I I ask that you guys, you know, if you're not aware, even the absentee ballot, there's only one box per hundred thousand. [0:51:51, 0:52:05]: hundred thousand, one hundred thousand. So there's not multiple places you can only drop off your absentee ballots there at that one box. Um there are a lot of laws that have recently changed on that. Um there's a lot of discussions and is not. [0:52:05, 0:52:09]: Um, unfortunately, it affects us locally. [0:52:09, 0:52:12]: But this is something that we have to take all the way to the state. [0:52:13, 0:52:21]: Ms. I'll tell you that that exact question was posed to everyone that was included on that meeting, why can't we vote everywhere? [0:52:21, 0:52:25]: And we're at the you have an IGA with the county for elections. [0:52:26, 0:52:28]: We don't control our own elections. [0:52:30, 0:52:33]: I feel like and that's why I suggested a working group. [0:52:33, 0:52:34]: Because [0:52:35, 0:52:38]: This is a complex question that's going to require [0:52:39, 0:52:44]: You all as elected officials in the city with elected officials from the county with the elections folks. [0:52:44, 0:52:45]: Mm. [0:52:46, 0:52:50]: basically sorting this out because this is a very complex issue. [0:52:51, 0:52:55]: Because it because the other thing that also comes into play is [0:52:55, 0:52:58]: When we're changing these precincts for city and county. [0:52:58, 0:53:00]: equal protection questions because [0:53:01, 0:53:04]: Part of what we were trying to do is combine these districts, then all of a sudden it would look like [0:53:04, 0:53:05]: Yeah. [0:53:05, 0:53:09]: You would have only two places in the county for everybody in Henry County to go to. [0:53:10, 0:53:13]: And there there's just a lot there that I think you all is [0:53:14, 0:53:20]: it would be probably be best to have a working group between the city and the county to sort this out. [0:53:21, 0:53:29]: All right, uh so uh our attorneys and uh you know, Quentin and Jeremy and Vanessa now, even Mr. Knighton. So [0:53:30, 0:53:31]: If we don't approve this tonight. [0:53:31, 0:53:36]: What's the time limit?'Cause we gotta approve it sometime something, sometime before and obviously [0:53:36, 0:53:45]: the qualification started this week. So there's a tight timeline here. So what's this timeline look like to even to get this thing executed or to ch possibly have this conversation or change anything? [0:53:47, 0:53:48]: So Mayor. [0:53:48, 0:53:51]: Go ahead, right here, please. Well, these would be [0:53:51, 0:53:53]: Still voting locations. [0:53:53, 0:53:58]: The question would be if you were to add a location, but these would still be voting locations. [0:53:58, 0:53:59]: All right. [0:54:00, 0:54:01]: All right, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:54:04, 0:54:15]: Yeah, Mayor, I think that um for all intent purposes, I think we can still go ahead tonight and approve what's already been uh allotted to us and and that we all I think we all agree on. [0:54:15, 0:54:17]: Uh it's it's the addition. [0:54:18, 0:54:19]: As um [0:54:19, 0:54:24]: this uh holiday alluded to. I think what what is presented tonight. [0:54:24, 0:54:36]: I think that this council can go ahead and approve that and we can work on additions to this uh through our attorneys. But I think what's what's presented tonight and those dates and times are [0:54:36, 0:54:40]: I if I'm mistaken, I think that those are fine for me anyway. [0:54:41, 0:54:41]: All right. [0:54:42, 0:54:45]: So be Mr. Yeah, yeah, go ahead, please. [0:54:45, 0:54:47]: Uh I want you to tell me. [0:54:48, 0:55:08]: Well, actually I'm I'm right uh what for my chiming is I I'm in agreement with uh Mr. Blount in this co process because I'm thinking about the timeline. Uh you know, elections will be here before you know it. So I and I believe that uh Mr. Washington made a an a suggestion in reference to a working group. And uh think that uh we should possibly do that. We approve this tonight. [0:55:08, 0:55:20]: have a working group to try to work out some additional issues with the uh with the county representation along with the board of elections and see if we can get anything extra potentially before we um before of course uh we start this uh [0:55:21, 0:55:40]: uh start the actual earlier voting process. But uh I think we should go forward with what we have now and continue to work out some additional things in the in the future. That's what I think. Since you asked my opinion, that's what I think. Okay. I don't want to delay this any further. I wouldn't want to delay this any further at all. This is why I want to know what the deadline is because I certainly want [0:55:41, 0:55:44]: I don't I want working people to be able to vote from seven to seven. [0:55:45, 0:55:51]: not have to rush home or to take off early work before five o'clock to vote. There's no seven to seven. [0:55:52, 0:55:54]: That's a huge issue for working people. [0:55:55, 0:56:00]: And uh, you know, if you work nine to five Monday through Friday, you're not gonna be able to vote. [0:56:00, 0:56:01]: Um [0:56:01, 0:56:05]: But except for that Saturday, I'm sorry [0:56:06, 0:56:10]: Except for Saturday, we need to add those hours certainly need to be adjusted. [0:56:11, 0:56:12]: So what is the deadline? [0:56:12, 0:56:13]: So all the [0:56:13, 0:56:16]: Uh, we could do it all at once. So what's the deadline? [0:56:20, 0:56:22]: I'm I'm under the [0:56:22, 0:56:29]: I believe we can change our precinct Merrill Manders to seven o'clock. We would have to pay for that. [0:56:29, 0:56:31]: Um, additionally, but [0:56:31, 0:56:34]: It's my understanding that we could change our precinct to seven o'clock. [0:56:35, 0:56:38]: Okay, so I don't have to pay for it. [0:56:38, 0:56:45]: Right. Uh I don't know. I'm not gonna let me take the let me take the temperature of the council. I certainly hope that everybody on here will support working people. [0:56:46, 0:57:01]: Being able to vote extending the hours to seven o'clock. What without a doubt. Uh so but we can do that, uh we can do that on our own accord. I mean, we just we don't need to approve for the Henry County Board of Elections to to increase our own hours at our own uh polling spot. Is that correct? [0:57:02, 0:57:03]: Ms. Alday? [0:57:04, 0:57:13]: For our municipal elections. Now whether or not they will be able to vote for that T spots up until seven o'clock, Mr Alexander and therefore, I I cannot [0:57:14, 0:57:15]: I cannot answer that. [0:57:16, 0:57:19]: I can tell I can speak to the city's municipal election. [0:57:19, 0:57:25]: All right to T. Because there will be different voting machines in the polling location, one for municipal. [0:57:26, 0:57:31]: No, no, I shouldn't say one. There will be m a machine for municipal and machine for county. [0:57:32, 0:57:33]: Okay. [0:57:34, 0:57:38]: I don't know why they wouldn't because the people will be there. But I cannot [0:57:39, 0:57:40]: I cannot. [0:57:41, 0:58:01]: say that with one hundred percent certain. All right. So that's a that's a do out in a sense to try to figure that out uh with the Board of Elections itself and along with our attorneys. And then um of course if we if we happen to pass this tonight, then once again uh Mr. Washington mentioned a a work group and uh so several us need to be on a work group to [0:58:01, 0:58:20]: maybe try to work through this issue to get these additional um polling locations if we can, if possible. And of course I would like to be on that particular work group as well. Yes, Ms. Holiday. So mayor, uh is the understanding that we will that you all are proposing to change the schedule for the Merrill Mandels Conference Center. [0:58:21, 0:58:23]: From the fi on the eleventh through the fifteenth. [0:58:24, 0:58:26]: The eighteenth through the twenty second. [0:58:26, 0:58:27]: And the [0:58:28, 0:58:29]: twenty fifth through the twenty-ninth. [0:58:30, 0:58:31]: To seven PM. [0:58:31, 0:58:33]: I would think. [0:58:33, 0:58:42]: I'm sorry. I would think that that would be this a consensus of the council to do that. I know Mayor Pro Temps has indicated that. I what about the rest of the council here? [0:58:43, 0:58:51]: What are your thoughts? Okay, Mr. Mr. Thomas says yes. Uh anybody else? Thumbs up. I'm going to seven o'clock at Moral Manners. [0:58:51, 0:59:02]: Okay, Ms. Barber. Okay, uh Ms. Gann, I think you're nodding your head. Yes, is that right? Okay. All right. I will confirm that and immediately submit that um to the elections office. [0:59:02, 0:59:08]: All right. And then of course obviously whatever the cost factor is, if we agree to that, we'll obviously have to fund that. [0:59:08, 0:59:09]: All right. [0:59:09, 0:59:19]: All right, so so otherwise if we accept this tonight, we'll probably put a motion to accept it with this potential change that we want to make in moral matters. Um is my assumption. [0:59:19, 0:59:22]: Uh right now. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:59:22, 0:59:30]: I make the motion that we accept the schedule with the modifications. Uh we can also we continue to see with the modifications added to it. [0:59:30, 0:59:32]: Okay, good deal. Is there a second to that motion? [0:59:34, 0:59:37]: Miss or uh Miss Gan seconds that motion we've had plenty of discussion. [0:59:37, 0:59:39]: So all in favor of the motion please indicate. [0:59:40, 0:59:44]: Hold on, hold on, I'm sorry, it was I'm sorry. Can I have one other discussion? [0:59:44, 0:59:51]: Okay, so when is it gonna when is the uh can I have one more discussion before go ahead, go ahead. When is it gonna come back to us? [0:59:51, 0:59:55]: Uh, for a final decision on this working board. Is there a date? [0:59:58, 1:00:00]: Mr. Washington, you mentioned earlier. Go ahead, sir. [1:00:01, 1:00:03]: What I'm going to do is I'm going to send [1:00:04, 1:00:05]: I'll send the email out now. [1:00:05, 1:00:07]: About a date to meet. [1:00:08, 1:00:09]: Yes, if this is [1:00:09, 1:00:11]: I'll see about a date for everybody to meet this week. [1:00:13, 1:00:14]: We'll get an email now. [1:00:15, 1:00:17]: All right. All right. [1:00:17, 1:00:21]: All right, the motion's been made. It's been seconded. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:00:22, 1:00:26]: Okay, it's a unanimous decision. All right. Thank you very much. All right. Appreciate it. [1:00:28, 1:00:39]: Okay, council consideration to approve the emergency purchase of the generator for Glen Addy Pump Station uh in the amount of forty-four thousand three hundred and fourteen dollars funding source uh department budget. [1:00:40, 1:00:41]: Miss Aaron, please. [1:00:42, 1:00:47]: Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. I'll let Mr. Holzinger, who's the sewer superintendent, speak to this item. [1:00:47, 1:00:49]: All right, Brad. Go ahead, sir. [1:00:49, 1:01:09]: Uh thank you, Mayor and Council, uh, for listening to me. Uh this is the Glen Addy Pump Station off Ty Street. Uh it blew apart and mainly due to its age and uh longevity. It's been there a while. We've repurposed it twice. It's close. [1:01:09, 1:01:16]: close to 28 years old and due to the age of it and the parts availability. [1:01:16, 1:01:18]: Uh it's just not feasible to repair. [1:01:18, 1:01:27]: Right now we're currently uh renting a generator for that location with uh hopefulness that you'll approve a purchase tonight. [1:01:28, 1:01:31]: All right, good. Is there any questions from Mr. Holser? Holsener. [1:01:33, 1:01:35]: If not yes. [1:01:35, 1:01:47]: Yeah y yes what? Is that yes for questions or yes for a motion? I have a question. Yeah, talk. All right, please. I don't think we we we we understand we're spending the citizens money. And I know this kind of slowed the process down a little bit. [1:01:48, 1:02:08]: Tell them what the benefit is of this money that we're about to spend. Spend just a little bit more time telling them what it is. If this fails, this is working toward the overall water system improvement, because I'd ask about a comprehensive plan to actually fix the entire system. [1:02:07, 1:02:14]: So tell us a little bit more about the funds that you're asking for and the benefit to the citizen. [1:02:15, 1:02:17]: benefit to the citizens that it keeps the [1:02:18, 1:02:23]: wastewater or sewage moving and does not back up into somebody's house or [1:02:23, 1:02:43]: goes out a manhole and goes into our state waterways. That's the benefit to it as far as the public's health and safety to keep that all the bad water away from them. And it gets to where we want it and that's the the end result to be treated at our treatment plant. And [1:02:43, 1:02:53]: And the generator's purpose is if there's power outages, which lately there's been a whole lot, and uh it keeps that pump station running. [1:02:55, 1:02:58]: Okay. And one one one other follow up question on that in terms of [1:02:59, 1:03:00]: The to the the system. [1:03:01, 1:03:04]: Uh uh it how we're looking at this a replacement. [1:03:04, 1:03:16]: uh uh make uh securing that function and being operating well into the future, right? This is gonna solve the problem and it should be there in uh in in in f great [1:03:17, 1:03:18]: Functioning. [1:03:18, 1:03:22]: um condition for how how long we anticipate this. [1:03:22, 1:03:24]: uh this improvement [1:03:24, 1:03:27]: uh enhancing the system of in terms of functionality and not fail. [1:03:28, 1:03:47]: This equipment should last 20, 25 years, if not more, when it's well maintained in which our equipment is. And as far as fixing the overall problem with the sewer system, there's problems every day. And we strive every day to solve every problem. [1:03:48, 1:03:48]: And [1:03:49, 1:03:52]: There's always problems that you can't see. [1:03:52, 1:03:55]: And it's our job to step up and fix them. [1:03:56, 1:03:58]: Okay. All right. Thank you. [1:03:58, 1:04:00]: No problem. Any questions from the council? [1:04:01, 1:04:05]: If not, I need a motion to accept uh Mr. Holzinger's uh proposal. [1:04:06, 1:04:11]: Uh okay, Miss Barber, that means you you you so move this motion? What is going on? [1:04:11, 1:04:13]: Okay, so moved. All right, is there a second? [1:04:13, 1:04:16]: A second. Okay, Mr. Ms. Gantt second that. [1:04:16, 1:04:20]: Uh don't need any further discussion, I would imagine. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:04:21, 1:04:23]: Okay, you nasty season. Thank you, Brad. Appreciate it. [1:04:23, 1:04:24]: Thanks. [1:04:25, 1:04:31]: Council consideration to approve information technology network equipment for the Public Works Administration building and amount of [1:04:31, 1:04:37]: Forty seven thousand four hundred and seventy eight dollars and eighty cents. Funding sources splotched. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:04:38, 1:04:45]: Yes, Mr. Mayor, we have uh representative from Interdev. This is for the internet system for the new public works building. [1:04:45, 1:04:52]: We had to order some equipment in order to be online with the city's IT resources. So we'll let them speak to this item. [1:04:53, 1:04:54]: All right, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:04:55, 1:04:57]: Yes, Mayor and Council. What you have in front of you is uh [1:04:58, 1:05:14]: Couple quotes from SHI off of state contract for the equipment that we need to stand up the network at the public uh works building. Um the uh design of the network is pretty much you know what we need to get the basic um systems up and running there for them to be operational. [1:05:15, 1:05:17]: Um we do have in there uh [1:05:17, 1:05:29]: uh setup for connectivity back to city hall. Um and the overall design and plan is for there to uh have some redundancy between the two locations. Um so if anything were to happen to City Hall, [1:05:29, 1:05:42]: people could work out of public works and vice versa, allowing it to be a pretty uh solid system. Um we also do have uh some uh additional uh backup storage in there as well for off site from city hall. [1:05:43, 1:05:46]: All right, Mrs. Smith. Thank you very much. Council, any questions for Mrs. Smith at all? [1:05:48, 1:05:50]: Okay, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:05:55, 1:05:56]: You're muted, Miss Barber. [1:05:57, 1:06:02]: Yes, the current equipment that is in the current [1:06:02, 1:06:05]: building. What is going to happen to that equipment? [1:06:07, 1:06:12]: We'll look to uh surplus that equipment or if anything could be reused, maybe used as a spares. [1:06:12, 1:06:18]: Um for anything, but for the most part, we're at in the useful life on that equipment and we would need to purchase on it. [1:06:20, 1:06:30]: The lifespan of the equipment that's on the quotes now is five to six years. Some of the network hardware can go out to maybe six to seven. So we're looking at about probably about a five to six year replacement cycle. [1:06:31, 1:06:32]: On the equipment that we're putting at. [1:06:34, 1:06:36]: Okay, Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [1:06:36, 1:06:44]: Yeah, talk about the technology and what class technology is. So what are you looking at getting in terms of [1:06:45, 1:06:47]: The overall speed and then [1:06:47, 1:06:51]: uh the growth potential uh as the city grows. [1:06:51, 1:06:52]: In terms of [1:06:53, 1:06:55]: Adding on new customers or what have you. [1:06:55, 1:06:59]: How does it rank in terms of what we're adding? What are we getting? [1:07:00, 1:07:02]: uh for this money. So what what is the speed? [1:07:02, 1:07:04]: Uh is going to be and is it [1:07:05, 1:07:06]: Growth friendly. [1:07:06, 1:07:12]: Yeah, yeah, actually it's very growth friendly. Um so you guys have come in on probably the [1:07:13, 1:07:33]: The next cycle of uh new hardware from Cisco and Fortinet. So uh the equipment that you guys are getting in this quote, like I said, should be still valid for all the way up to six to five to six years. Seven years if you stretch it out pretty well. Um, speeds-wise, you're guys are more than covered. Uh you're looking at 10 gigs. [1:07:32, 1:07:42]: uh at the minimum, um except for down to the desktops, it'll be a gig. Uh between city hall to there, you know, we're gonna have a solid gig link and then uh [1:07:43, 1:07:49]: To the storage systems 40 to 100, I believe. So you have more than enough speed. [1:07:49, 1:08:03]: in there and we made a design at future proofs. I don't want to say future proofs because everything changes in IT, but this is something where you know we're not going to be coming back to you in a year saying you need to upgrade or two or three years. Uh these are this is solid equipment, um good branded [1:08:03, 1:08:23]: Equipment, Dell, Cisco, Fortinet leaders in class when it comes to the hardware that we selected. And it's standardized across the board. So it's not like we're pop, picking, and popping and doing different things in different buildings. We're trying to keep the city on a good, stable, standard platform across the board in all buildings. So if you add anything else, a police department, whatever, um, it'll still have the same. [1:08:23, 1:08:25]: Same best in class equipment. [1:08:26, 1:08:27]: Thank you. [1:08:27, 1:08:29]: Any other questions for Mr. Smith, Council? [1:08:31, 1:08:34]: If not, then I need a motion to accept the proposal. [1:08:35, 1:08:36]: Tamo. [1:08:36, 1:08:37]: Is there a second? [1:08:40, 1:08:45]: Okay, Ms. Gantt had her hand up for a second. Okay. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:08:47, 1:08:49]: Thank you very much, Susan. Thank you, Mr. Smith. Appreciate it. [1:08:51, 1:09:00]: Okay, uh Council consideration approved task order number thirty three with Carter and Sloop, GIS mapping program for water and sewer and amount of uh thirty-two thousand. [1:09:01, 1:09:05]: twenty dollars funding source, uh department budget. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:09:06, 1:09:10]: Yes, Ms. Mayor. Uh this project was identified in SPLOS three. [1:09:10, 1:09:30]: But this project speaks to Councilman Alexander has spoken earlier, Mayor Proteum Alexander earlier about an overall master plan for the water and sewer system. This will help us as we go about designing that master plan for the water and sewer system improvements. Staff has been bringing numerous projects before council as we move forward. [1:09:30, 1:09:47]: making our system reliable and dependable. And this is some technology that would greatly benefit not only water and sewer, but stormwater as well. I have uh Donnie Mullis, who's our water superintendent, he's online as well, as Brad Holzinger, our sewer superintendent, if mayor and council should have any questions. [1:09:49, 1:09:54]: All right, Council, any questions at all about uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:09:56, 1:10:01]: Okay, this is for renovations to the wastewater treatment office. [1:10:02, 1:10:22]: No, ma'am, that's next. This is for the location of like manholes, uh, water lines, fire hydrants, water valves. And this assists, say if you get a resurfacing project that a a water valve is paved over, you have that geographic location. So you're able to identify the location of that. [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: uh device such as a [1:10:24, 1:10:35]: a water vale or a manhole, this helps develop digital maps as well as if you're preparing a hydraulic hydrology study like with your sewer system or your water system. [1:10:36, 1:10:39]: So it helps you to d design improvements as well as [1:10:39, 1:10:42]: Um, make repairs to the systems. [1:10:42, 1:10:44]: Okay, I'm looking at this agenda item. [1:10:45, 1:10:47]: The title is [1:10:48, 1:10:52]: Council consideration to approve task order number 23 with TSW. [1:10:53, 1:10:54]: for renovations. [1:10:54, 1:10:58]: of the wastewater treatment plant offices and laboratory. [1:10:58, 1:11:06]: We're not on that item yet. We're on number seven seven number for the GIS mapping. [1:11:07, 1:11:07]: Thank you. [1:11:08, 1:11:10]: Any further questions for uh [1:11:11, 1:11:15]: That's just here. If not I mean a motion to accept the proposal. [1:11:16, 1:11:20]: So okay, Miss Barber, so moved in a second. A second. [1:11:21, 1:11:24]: Okay, well I've got Mayor Pro Tem, second man. Any further discussions? [1:11:24, 1:11:26]: And if not all in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:11:27, 1:11:29]: You now see Susan, thank you very much. [1:11:29, 1:11:37]: Uh council's consideration to approve task order number 23 with TSW incorporated renovations and wastewater treatment plant offices. [1:11:37, 1:11:41]: and laboratory an amount of sixty six thousand five hundred and ninety dollars. [1:11:42, 1:11:46]: Funding source sewer fund balance. Now, Mr. Aaron, please. [1:11:47, 1:11:50]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. This item uh [1:11:50, 1:11:56]: We're currently in a in a situation where our laboratory equipment is over approaching 30 years old. [1:11:57, 1:12:16]: And his outlid is useful life and technology has greatly changed since then. There have been no improvements made to the lab or the equipment since this was brought online. So we're coming before council tonight to ask as we move forward with renovating the laboratory and the office space as well, because we currently have staff. [1:12:16, 1:12:36]: That sit inside the laboratory and the EPD frowns on that. So we're getting them out of the laboratory when public works function moves out of the wastewater treatment building. Currently, the administrative assistant, myself and Mr. Mullis, the water superintendent, occupy spaces within this facility. So that's what allow Mr. Hol Sing and [1:12:36, 1:12:48]: to get his staff out of the lab where they're currently sitting and also in the offices, but mainly to renovate our laboratory to current industry standards. And I'll let Brad speak as well if he has anything to add. [1:12:49, 1:13:09]: Yeah, this this as Mr. Aaron said, this building's 30 years old and uh it hadn't outgrown its useful life, but it's we've put it through a lot with the amount of people that work out of there. And cats are rusting away due to you know uh [1:13:09, 1:13:17]: use a lot of acid and that kind of thing in the lab. And the floor tiles are coming up. It's just, I mean, it's, it's time. [1:13:18, 1:13:23]: Okay. Council, any questions for either Brad or uh Decius in reference to this proposal? [1:13:25, 1:13:28]: Seeing none, I need a motion to accept their proposal, please. [1:13:30, 1:13:32]: Miss Barber, you still move that? [1:13:32, 1:13:41]: Therefore, I do have a quick question. Yes, a question. Go ahead, please. Ask Mr. Aaron, where is he? He he's he's there. I'm here. [1:13:41, 1:13:50]: Do you have a project list of all the city facilities, especially the ones that need repairs and renovations? [1:13:51, 1:13:53]: Do you have a list like that? [1:13:54, 1:14:06]: Well one one things we've spoken with procurement about and that is the developer facilities maintenance plan. I've submitted that information so that we have information on all of our buildings so that. [1:14:06, 1:14:23]: We have a planned schedule of how we go about renovating and replacing equipment and fixtures inside of these facilities. So that is on the drawing board that has been submitted for approval because we don't like just piecemeal and things. We want to have a plan of action on how we address these buildings as they age. [1:14:23, 1:14:25]: Okay, so where are we with the [1:14:25, 1:14:26]: Um [1:14:27, 1:14:31]: uh remodeling or renovations to the Ted Strickland. [1:14:31, 1:14:31]: Building. [1:14:32, 1:14:34]: Where is that on the priority list? [1:14:34, 1:14:45]: Those documents are with uh procurement and they should be coming out for bid in the next week or so. We have submit TSW has submitted all the items needed to put this out for bid. [1:14:45, 1:14:46]: Okay, thank you. [1:14:47, 1:14:49]: Uh Mayor Ford, I so move. [1:14:49, 1:14:51]: Okay. Is there a second to the motion? [1:14:53, 1:14:56]: Miss Barra, Miss uh Gantt seconds that motion any further discussion. [1:14:58, 1:15:00]: If not all in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:15:01, 1:15:07]: All right, unanimous decision. Okay, fantastic. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. You're welcome. Council Christian. [1:15:08, 1:15:19]: Council consideration to approve contract with Georgia Alliance Stockbridge LLC for main uh uh management services of the amphitheater as a professional service. Mr. Knighton, please. [1:15:19, 1:15:28]: Uh yes, uh Mayor and Council. Um obviously the amphitheater project has been uh widely anticipated and uh obviously is during complete. [1:15:29, 1:15:31]: Uh construction conclusion. [1:15:31, 1:15:38]: Uh as a reminder, uh the amphitheater project was a part of a livable cities initiative and LCI many, many years ago. [1:15:39, 1:15:42]: And uh through the d the leadership of the council. [1:15:42, 1:15:50]: Uh we have uh just about completed that construction project, the amphitheater, which will serve as a catalyst for. [1:15:50, 1:15:55]: uh what we expect to see uh economic development in our traditional downtown area. [1:15:55, 1:15:59]: As well as being of course a top notch first class. [1:15:59, 1:16:02]: Second to none entertainment venue. [1:16:03, 1:16:08]: Um, obviously, uh uh members of council and or some citizens have toured [1:16:08, 1:16:09]: Uh the facility. [1:16:10, 1:16:12]: Um everyone has come away impressed. [1:16:13, 1:16:16]: With the amphitheatre facility and of course. [1:16:16, 1:16:17]: Uh we had a test event. [1:16:18, 1:16:22]: Over this past weekend, which I think was uh quite impressive. [1:16:23, 1:16:26]: In terms of lighting, sound, atmosphere. [1:16:27, 1:16:30]: And feel for the amphitheatre, and of course, we are. [1:16:31, 1:16:33]: uh trending toward uh fully opening [1:16:33, 1:16:35]: Uh, here very, very soon. [1:16:35, 1:16:36]: As a part of the [1:16:37, 1:16:38]: Amphitheater. [1:16:38, 1:16:39]: project. [1:16:39, 1:16:43]: Uh obviously we've had discussions with respect to the operation. [1:16:44, 1:16:45]: of the overall amphitheater. [1:16:46, 1:16:48]: Uh and how it would be [1:16:48, 1:16:54]: uh run and operated from everything uh from um the actual entertainment the acts [1:16:56, 1:16:59]: Excuse me, promotions, uh, sponsorship, concessions. [1:17:00, 1:17:01]: Security and safety. [1:17:02, 1:17:06]: Janitorial, uh, everything that comes into play with respect to [1:17:06, 1:17:09]: Operating a venue of this magnitude. [1:17:10, 1:17:13]: Um throughout the course of last several months in particular. [1:17:14, 1:17:17]: Um, I have provided information to you with respect to [1:17:18, 1:17:21]: Potential management companies as a professional service. [1:17:22, 1:17:25]: And uh here tonight you have members of the Georgia. [1:17:26, 1:17:28]: Uh radio lions L L C. [1:17:30, 1:17:30]: Excuse me. [1:17:31, 1:17:34]: Um who are present to speak to. [1:17:34, 1:17:36]: Any questions with respect to the amphitheater? [1:17:37, 1:17:38]: In particular [1:17:38, 1:17:44]: Uh there are uh provisions of course a contract that you have, a draft contract that you have. [1:17:44, 1:17:49]: And provisions in there uh that speak to um how entertainment would be secured. [1:17:50, 1:17:53]: How security would be hailed in terms of cost. [1:17:54, 1:17:58]: Also it talks to uh ticket revenue splits, food and drink. [1:17:58, 1:18:01]: Revenu splits sponsorship. [1:18:01, 1:18:07]: Revenue splits that result overall in terms of an expected budget. [1:18:07, 1:18:09]: uh to um [1:18:10, 1:18:15]: uh the city uh um ending up with some revenue as a result of this. [1:18:15, 1:18:20]: I will say specifically, of course, that when you build a venue such as this. [1:18:21, 1:18:24]: Um, that has the capacity that we have. [1:18:25, 1:18:28]: And we'll bring three thousand plus people. [1:18:29, 1:18:34]: uh to the city uh during the season every two months or twice a month or so for [1:18:35, 1:18:44]: Um one of the great benefits is um the economic dollars that can be generated from those people who come to the city of Stockbridge. [1:18:45, 1:18:48]: To view uh and uh experience our entertainment. [1:18:49, 1:18:52]: There are many jurisdictions in the Metro Atlanta area specifically. [1:18:52, 1:18:53]: Which I can name. [1:18:53, 1:18:56]: Uh, Buford, Swanie, Shiberhill, name a few. [1:18:57, 1:19:06]: Where you see Lawrenceville has got a lot going on right now. Um, where you see the residual benefits. [1:19:06, 1:19:07]: Of a [1:19:08, 1:19:13]: amphitheater like this and I'll say with respect to those other jurisdictions I mentioned, none of them have [1:19:14, 1:19:19]: anything on the city of Stockbridge in terms of the first class facility that we have built. That's just a fact. [1:19:20, 1:19:23]: Uh in terms of the um [1:19:23, 1:19:25]: The character in terms of the [1:19:26, 1:19:29]: Technology in terms of the features, in terms of the attributes. [1:19:30, 1:19:33]: А дальше Ситбрид Амфатер. [1:19:34, 1:19:36]: And so when those people come to [1:19:36, 1:19:39]: Uh, these activities here at the amphitheater. [1:19:40, 1:19:43]: The always the vision of the city has been and the [1:19:43, 1:19:44]: Gold has been. [1:19:45, 1:19:48]: Uh, for those people to be exposed to what a wonderful city Stockbridge is. [1:19:48, 1:19:52]: And then you see the residual impacts of restaurant, retail, office. [1:19:53, 1:19:55]: development and redevelopment of our traditional downtown. [1:19:56, 1:20:00]: uh which was been envisioned in the RSVP, the Renaissance strategic visioning plan. [1:20:01, 1:20:05]: as well as some other items that the city is putting in place in in including [1:20:05, 1:20:09]: Um the bridge or or the pedestrian bridge. [1:20:09, 1:20:16]: um the uh sidewalks and paths in and around the downtown area which are proposed on T S PLOS. [1:20:16, 1:20:18]: As well as the Cultural Arts Center. [1:20:19, 1:20:22]: Where there are dedicated funds to build that facility. [1:20:22, 1:20:26]: And so when you take all of these in total and put them together. [1:20:26, 1:20:29]: The vision uh starts to come to fruition. [1:20:29, 1:20:31]: And the amphitheater is the [1:20:32, 1:20:34]: First major piece. [1:20:34, 1:20:36]: In terms of completion. [1:20:36, 1:20:39]: for the vision of the city of Stock Bridge downtown. [1:20:39, 1:20:43]: And the Georgia Radio Alliance will hear again is here tonight. [1:20:44, 1:20:48]: Um is being proposed to run the amphitheatre operations. [1:20:49, 1:20:52]: to ensure that the amphitheater functions property properly. [1:20:53, 1:20:55]: To ensure that um the [1:20:56, 1:20:58]: uh planning for the amphitheater takes place. [1:20:59, 1:21:02]: Um for the remainder of uh this season twenty twenty one. [1:21:03, 1:21:06]: We hope to certainly have some uh excellent events here, but also [1:21:06, 1:21:10]: immediately uh moving into twenty twenty two. [1:21:10, 1:21:12]: And planning out events for twenty twenty two. [1:21:13, 1:21:18]: that will resonate with um the citizens will resonate with metro atlanta area. [1:21:19, 1:21:20]: As well as [1:21:21, 1:21:24]: Providing that diverse entertainment. [1:21:24, 1:21:26]: That we all want to see and will have. [1:21:27, 1:21:33]: uh at the Stockbridge amphitheater. And so we will draw not only from the immediate Stockbridge Henry County area. [1:21:33, 1:21:34]: But we expect to draw. [1:21:35, 1:21:37]: Uh from the metropolitan Atlanta area. [1:21:37, 1:21:38]: And further south as well. [1:21:39, 1:21:44]: And so with that, um we have uh had these items. [1:21:44, 1:21:46]: Uh reviewed with the legal council. [1:21:46, 1:21:47]: Um [1:21:47, 1:21:50]: And uh I will [1:21:50, 1:21:52]: At this point, Mayor, if it's okay. [1:21:53, 1:21:54]: Uh [1:21:54, 1:22:01]: Um I mentioned the gentlemen who are on. Uh I'll I'll let maybe I'll let uh Mr. Murray introduce the gentlemen who are on with him. [1:22:01, 1:22:03]: As a part of this proposed team. [1:22:04, 1:22:06]: That will um [1:22:06, 1:22:10]: operate the amphitheater if it is your desire to approve them. [1:22:10, 1:22:12]: This evening under the provisions. [1:22:12, 1:22:14]: of the contract as proposed. [1:22:15, 1:22:22]: Sir, Mr. Knight, no problem. Mr. Murray, the show is yours, sir. You want to introduce your staff to us and we'll ask you some questions. [1:22:22, 1:22:27]: Yes, uh good evening, Mayor. Nice to see you again. Thank you for coming out Saturday night. Appreciate it. [1:22:28, 1:22:35]: A number of the council met some of the staff Saturday night. Who we've got tonight on the call is Mark Ware. [1:22:36, 1:22:40]: Who will be running the venue on a day to day basis if this is approved? [1:22:41, 1:22:42]: Uh Harold Young. [1:22:43, 1:22:44]: Who [1:22:44, 1:22:45]: Does [1:22:45, 1:22:51]: A considerable amount of booking for us concert wise. Mr. Young's also the executive director of the Tubman. [1:22:51, 1:23:03]: uh museum in Macon. And then we have Claudelle Price, who's lived in Stockbridge for I believe 25 years, been with me for just about 25 years as our senior vice president. [1:23:03, 1:23:04]: And uh [1:23:05, 1:23:08]: He was at the the concert or excuse me, the uh the test as well Saturday night. [1:23:09, 1:23:09]: Who do? [1:23:10, 1:23:20]: Good deal. Well, I I appreciate that. I think it was an excellent uh example of the test that went on there. And I am uh happ I'm personally happy with uh what I see in the contract. I I look at uh having a very [1:23:21, 1:23:31]: real professional and and and lucrative uh business relationship with you all. Uh but obviously that's up to the council as well. So I'll be quiet for a second, see any questions the council may have. [1:23:31, 1:23:38]: Okay, Mr. Alexander, his hand was up first. Go ahead, please, sir. All right, thank you so much. Uh Mr. Berry, are you there? Mr. Washington. [1:23:40, 1:23:40]: That they're present. [1:23:41, 1:23:42]: Yes. [1:23:42, 1:23:47]: Yes, sir. Yeah, I just uh as as uh having the experience that you have [1:23:48, 1:23:51]: Uh with Wolf Creek Lakewood Amphitheater. [1:23:52, 1:23:55]: And um the various entities in the city. [1:23:56, 1:24:06]: Talk about the contract and I guess you know entertainment is a different animal. And I just want to make sure that uh what we have here is uh similar to those um [1:24:06, 1:24:09]: What we're seeing uh industry standards. [1:24:13, 1:24:22]: This is similar to the my understanding is similar to the contract in Fayaville. Um we're we're comparing. I mean, I think part of it each [1:24:23, 1:24:28]: Each kind is going to be different because the terms are all going to be different. You know, this is gonna be different. [1:24:29, 1:24:31]: different than Verizon, it's gonna be different than Wolf Creek. [1:24:32, 1:24:34]: And what what's being provided. [1:24:34, 1:24:43]: Uh they've provided us their contract with Fayetteville, so I'm gonna look at that to to compare, but it's my understanding that those two are identical. [1:24:44, 1:24:48]: Okay, so pretty much this is uh what we're seeing is pretty much what [1:24:49, 1:24:52]: uh has been expected and then uh maybe Mr. Murray can tell me about [1:24:53, 1:24:59]: uh their operations over in Fayetteville and uh how that um has gone. [1:24:59, 1:25:11]: Yes, sir. Uh I did leave out one very important member of our team. Um, corporate attorney Scott McPherson is on as well. If anybody has any questions for Scott. Um we are in our fourth year. [1:25:11, 1:25:15]: Of managing the Fayetteville amphitheater. [1:25:15, 1:25:25]: And the naming rights sponsor there has been the Brightmore Healthcare Amphitheater for the last two years. Prior to that, it was the Zach Brown Southern Ground Amphitheater. [1:25:26, 1:25:28]: I provided a [1:25:28, 1:25:32]: contract that we it's our third year contract. We're just going into our fourth year. [1:25:33, 1:25:40]: And it is different from some of the other amphitheaters in the state because we not only provide [1:25:40, 1:25:51]: uh some of the management there and in the booking and the production. But we own seventy, excuse me, 27 different radio stations that we use to promote the amphitheater. [1:25:52, 1:25:55]: the concerts, and really most importantly, the city of Fayetteville. [1:25:56, 1:26:04]: That would be the primary difference that we do have this large radio station platform, digital platform. [1:26:04, 1:26:10]: uh apps, streaming services, websites, th those sort of things. [1:26:12, 1:26:14]: I've got a list of uh [1:26:15, 1:26:21]: shows we've done in the last two two and a half years. It's it's limited because of COVID, but if everybody [1:26:21, 1:26:28]: Has a second, I'll I'll read some of those. Uh these are shows that we've done lately. Uh Patty Labelle, Travis Tritt. [1:26:28, 1:26:29]: Lover boy. [1:26:30, 1:26:31]: Gretchen Wilson. [1:26:31, 1:26:32]: Boss gags. [1:26:33, 1:26:34]: Grand Funk Railroad. [1:26:34, 1:26:35]: Donfelder. [1:26:36, 1:26:37]: Ziggy Marley. [1:26:37, 1:26:38]: Fog ahead. [1:26:38, 1:26:39]: Sticks. [1:26:40, 1:26:42]: Charlie Wilson, Fantasia. [1:26:42, 1:26:44]: Mary J. Blige, R. Kelly. [1:26:44, 1:26:45]: Do I yoke'em? [1:26:46, 1:26:47]: Earth, wind, and fire. [1:26:47, 1:26:49]: Anthony Hamilton [1:26:49, 1:26:50]: Boys to men. [1:26:50, 1:26:54]: Emmy Lou Harris, Amy Grant, Trace Atkins. [1:26:54, 1:27:05]: Mother's Finest, Little River Band, Rodney Atkins, Craig Morgan, 38 Special, Jackal, Zach Brown, Scotty McCreary, Tommy James and the Shondells. [1:27:06, 1:27:07]: Numerous others, but uh [1:27:08, 1:27:09]: The others were [1:27:09, 1:27:13]: somewhat smaller. Those would be recording artists that were are fairly well known. [1:27:14, 1:27:17]: Okay, and then a follow up if I could, uh [1:27:17, 1:27:18]: In terms of [1:27:19, 1:27:24]: Pretty much you guys are a one stop shop. Is that what you do? You pretty much you [1:27:24, 1:27:40]: You take the ball and you run with it. And whereas uh some of the competitors don't do that, you pretty much take care of uh everything um uh in terms of the operations of the facility and as you said, uh with the uh promotions with the extensive network that you have. [1:27:41, 1:27:42]: Yes, sir. [1:27:42, 1:27:52]: Uh pretty much from selling the vending rights to selling the tickets to booking the bands and the production that uh that you saw Saturday night. [1:27:54, 1:27:55]: Outstanding. Thank you. [1:27:56, 1:27:58]: Councilwoman Barber, okay, please. [1:28:00, 1:28:02]: I'll yield to Councilman Blount. [1:28:02, 1:28:04]: All right, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:28:04, 1:28:06]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um [1:28:07, 1:28:19]: Sounds good. Um how do you how do you and I and I guess you will all uh I don't know if to answer it now or send us something on it. Um when you have those people that like Zach, when we came over there it was Zach Brown. [1:28:20, 1:28:21]: Yeah. [1:28:21, 1:28:38]: And so how is how is that handled? Is that handled through an IGA with the city? Is that handled through something with the city itself? Is that handled through just you all? And I'm I'm just trying to figure out how is that handled. I I've never known how that was actually handled when you get those uh [1:28:38, 1:28:52]: We we handle 100% of the sales and marketing, which is everything from the naming rights to the vendors products. We have what we call a platinum, gold, silver sponsorship, presenting sponsorship. [1:28:53, 1:28:54]: And uh [1:28:54, 1:29:04]: Zach is no longer associated with the amphitheater because he was outbid for the naming rights. And that is a 70-30 split we have with the city. [1:29:05, 1:29:07]: If you've noticed our contract. [1:29:07, 1:29:12]: The majority about eighty five percent of our compensations based on performance. [1:29:13, 1:29:18]: And if we don't do well in sales and do well with concerts and ticket sales, we don't make money. [1:29:19, 1:29:23]: So that's uh that's where this formula was come we came up with this formula. [1:29:24, 1:29:43]: So so as a follow-up, so that formula 7030 formula is compiled of all inclusive of everything for as revenue pertaining to the amateur theater because you all are the governor. As far as the sp sales and sponsorship. Right. Exactly. In this particular contract, the city gets 85%. [1:29:43, 1:29:48]: of ticket sales, the city gets eighty five percent of what we [1:29:48, 1:29:50]: make on the vendor sales as well. [1:29:52, 1:29:54]: Although we would sell in the vendors. [1:29:55, 1:29:59]: uh the the city would make the majority of the revenue off of those sales. [1:30:00, 1:30:05]: One of the questions has been asked, do you all handle the EMS part portion of it? [1:30:06, 1:30:07]: Uh Mark, where are you? [1:30:08, 1:30:09]: Is it on the call? [1:30:10, 1:30:11]: Yeah, Mark's Mark's present. [1:30:11, 1:30:14]: Okay. Mark can speak can speak on that better than I. [1:30:16, 1:30:21]: Thank you and good evening, Council. Uh good to see some of you guys again. But yes, we've handled [1:30:21, 1:30:24]: that through a um a private entity [1:30:25, 1:30:26]: Uh just so that [1:30:27, 1:30:28]: You know, in in [1:30:28, 1:30:48]: That area, Henry County, may uh would send an ambulance over there, but we need dedicated EMS in case Henry County got uh busy with calls. So I would uh develop a relationship with a private ambulance company such as Phoenix, uh there on Jodico Road, uh in Henry County and uh developed a um [1:30:48, 1:30:59]: um a subcontract with those guys to provide at least one ALS advanced life support unit um when we do such events. [1:31:00, 1:31:12]: Uh no s I'm sorry, uh one more mayor. Something like that, since it's so important, I guess you all will have a certain staff member that was gonna that's gonna be working close with [1:31:13, 1:31:23]: or whatever staff is with the city of Stockbridge in order to make sure everything is all dot uh uh I's are dotted and T's are crossed prior to any event. Is that correct? [1:31:23, 1:31:25]: Yes, sir. That would be Mr. Ware. [1:31:26, 1:31:26]: Okay. [1:31:27, 1:31:34]: Yeah, we I'm I'm sorry, go ahead. I I mentioned also we've already started having conversation. We the staff have started having conversations with [1:31:35, 1:31:37]: Um Henry County Police and Captain Maddox. [1:31:37, 1:31:44]: Um taking a look at you know what we needed from a police standpoint, but also is in obviously fi um Chief Wales would be involved. [1:31:45, 1:31:48]: as well from the fire standpoint. And as Mr. Ware mentioned [1:31:48, 1:31:51]: We want to make sure that we have a dedicated [1:31:51, 1:31:57]: Um ALS advanced life uh support unit there on site for the entirety. [1:31:58, 1:32:10]: of the event. If we did have Henry County and Henry County obviously does a great job, if they got a call, perhaps they might have to go to that call. We want to have our own dedicated ALS unit there on site at all times. [1:32:11, 1:32:16]: Uh Mr. Knight now just a follow up question on that. What what the vendor, uh what the uh [1:32:17, 1:32:26]: um proposed um company here. When we talk about Henry County Police Department, we know that we have to have security outside. [1:32:27, 1:32:46]: Are you all, Mr. Murray, are you all dealing or Mr. Aware? Are you all dealing with any type of security on the inside that you all are going to facilitate? And and I'm I'm speaking in terms of not just officers walking around, but uh there's certain areas of the amphitheater that you don't wanna see glasses going over. [1:32:46, 1:33:02]: Or you don't wanna see this or or s you you there's there's that that top part that concerned me that I you just don't wanna see something happen in that corner. I'm just saying, are you guys gonna be providing any type of security other than what what's gonna be provided by Henry County? [1:33:03, 1:33:06]: Yes, sir. And to answer that, um [1:33:07, 1:33:27]: Per many of the liquor licensing agreement and how it's insured, they will help determine exactly how many inside uh security officers are needed. I know that in our um talks uh we've begun with four inside, but these security officers [1:33:27, 1:33:31]: Officers will have designated spots and um [1:33:31, 1:33:42]: pr uh procedures that they will follow uh within the guidelines that Georgia Radio Alliance Stockbridge and the City of Stockbridge uh develop through um our meetings. [1:33:47, 1:33:48]: It's bloody good. [1:33:49, 1:34:09]: Yeah, I just want to make sure that we we all kind of on the same page when it comes to inside area concerns. But I don't want to I just want to make sure that we're not putting a lot of armed off not arms, it's forgiving not armed, not uniformed officers just all around. And I want people to feel comfortable and have a good time, but we want to make sure that we have. [1:34:09, 1:34:17]: Security in those areas that are that that we may have concerns about uh that may need attention uh on those night concerts. [1:34:18, 1:34:23]: You're absolutely correct. The success of the conference benefits everybody. [1:34:23, 1:34:27]: Yes, sir. Oh sorry, this is this is Harold Young. [1:34:28, 1:34:45]: I'm sorry. This this is Harold Young. Um work with uh Mr. Murray and he's been been working with them for over twelve years and console promoter certified. And uh uh what we would provide is is called like T sh we call them t-shirt security, that they don't look they they don't [1:34:45, 1:34:53]: intimidate the people of being there. You know, when you have too many police officers you tend to be backed up are w are [1:34:54, 1:35:04]: uh or not want to have a good time in in the sense because you're you're so intimidated by so many police officers, it tends to take away from the event. So I understand what you're saying. We would definitely provide that as well. [1:35:07, 1:35:12]: Okay. Thank you. I'm going to come back to you, Councilman Barber. You had a question earlier. [1:35:13, 1:35:21]: I've got several questions, but I'll yield to Councilwoman Gantt because they're answering my questions along the way. All right. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:35:22, 1:35:25]: Um, thank you. Um my question is [1:35:25, 1:35:30]: What has been your average what's the average cost of a ticket sale? The citizens wants to know. [1:35:31, 1:35:40]: That would vary greatly on the price of the uh performer. Harold could probably speak on that better than I. [1:35:42, 1:35:53]: Yes, um I've had uh numerous of years of scaling a concert, and this is actually a question that it would go back to the council. Um [1:35:55, 1:36:09]: The of course everyone's in the business to make money. We want to make sure that the your community is able to afford the concert. We wanna we don't wanna overprice or underprice where um [1:36:09, 1:36:11]: Y you're you're not uh [1:36:12, 1:36:15]: It just doesn't make any business sense. Now um [1:36:16, 1:36:18]: Every concert would have to be scaled. [1:36:18, 1:36:22]: Um to the artists. If you have a [1:36:23, 1:36:42]: If your production and your if your show is costing a quarter of a million dollars, you certainly can't charge twenty-five dollars like a Wolf Creek concert to get in because everyone would lose. Um so uh but uh you know, twenty-five dollars times four thousand is still, you know. [1:36:42, 1:36:51]: You know, it's not enough money, you know. So we we need to scale it to per the artist. So we would definitely do that as well. [1:36:51, 1:36:55]: Um so an average cost is depending on the artist. [1:36:57, 1:37:13]: And that ticket scaling that uh Harold's talking about, that's done at each time you begin you enter talks with the when you're looking over the riders and or the contract. It allows for the ticket scaling. That was something um our president, Mr. Murray, was doing uh some of that this week. [1:37:13, 1:37:20]: Um just as we prepare with uh some of the acts we have lined up. But that's scaling's done. Um [1:37:20, 1:37:22]: Yeah, at at the beginning of [1:37:23, 1:37:24]: The talks with the artist. [1:37:27, 1:37:27]: Okay. [1:37:29, 1:37:36]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. Uh uh well first of all, Councilwoman Barber, were you ready? I had another question if you if she's ready. [1:37:36, 1:37:41]: Go ahead. Okay. Well the question you you all talked about uh promoting [1:37:41, 1:37:47]: uh those concerts uh is there a rank because when you're coming into [1:37:47, 1:37:51]: Coming up seventy-five south, I'm talking fifty to a hundred miles south. [1:37:51, 1:38:07]: uh i'm seeing signs on promotion of cities in in this in uh henry county so do you guys when you're talking about promoting something as awesome as this amphitheater is there a range that you all would take it out to [1:38:07, 1:38:19]: Uh I mean what and and I'm not saying that you give me the miles, but I know that you're gonna be promoting outside of your uh outside of the metro area and surrounding areas of is there a certain [1:38:19, 1:38:36]: area uh certain perimeter of miles that you all go out or is it just like you just busting it out there because i would I would for certain concerts I would drive 50 to 100 miles. We had people that went to concerts in Alabama uh a couple of weeks ago that told me about it. So all all of the above um [1:38:36, 1:38:41]: I think everybody has a a coverage map of the twenty seven signals, but but basically [1:38:42, 1:38:43]: Our company [1:38:44, 1:38:47]: Stations cover about twenty five miles north of Atlanta. [1:38:48, 1:38:51]: To approximately thirty miles south of Warner Robbins. [1:38:52, 1:39:08]: uh and into Columbus, Georgia. So basically if it if you look at a Stockbridge, anything really within 50 miles, 60 miles of Stockbridge, we would we would service with what you call a 54 DBU or a city grade signal. [1:39:11, 1:39:16]: But yes, the bigger the every sh every show would be promoted as if it was the biggest show of the year. [1:39:17, 1:39:22]: And that's that that's country to gospel to [1:39:23, 1:39:26]: Urban AC to classic hits, every format we've got. [1:39:27, 1:39:31]: Reason I asked that because some of the greatest but prior to the um [1:39:31, 1:39:32]: Um [1:39:33, 1:39:40]: um Georgia aquarium, some of the greatest advertising for Tennessee was here in the state of Georgia. [1:39:40, 1:39:54]: Yes, sir. And so that's why I'm saying something somewhere now, Tennessee would be y you you're looking at uh you're looking at about a hundred, you know, twenty-five miles up, but we're looking at a market that would drive to Atlanta. [1:39:55, 1:40:13]: or twenty miles south of Atlanta. So I'm just looking at uh capturing the market for what we have because it is uh uh a beautiful place to see and uh and and I think it th to experience a state of the art uh facility like this, I think it it would it would definitely [1:40:13, 1:40:14]: Um [1:40:14, 1:40:17]: first first impression would definitely bring people back. [1:40:17, 1:40:29]: Yes, sir. You're exactly right. And we have a uh a budget for uh additional promotion if we were falling short in certain areas, for example, because of the demographics of a market like Chattanooga. [1:40:29, 1:40:34]: A country station in Chattanooga would serve a country show in Stockbridge very well. [1:40:35, 1:40:38]: Um for a a large urban show. [1:40:38, 1:40:46]: Uh like like we've been discussing, uh a Gladys Knight. We will use one of my old radio stations, Magic 107.5 in Atlanta. [1:40:47, 1:40:49]: To help fill in some of that that area. [1:40:50, 1:40:59]: But uh you're absolutely right. We do make modifications depending on the show and the cost of the artist, ticket price, demographics we're going after. Absolutely. [1:41:00, 1:41:20]: Councilman Blount, I'm glad you brought this up and touched on the word of mouth and the beautiful facility because even though we have 6.5 million listeners that we're gonna target and capture with our marketing plan, the agents and promoters that we work with to help full [1:41:20, 1:41:35]: these shows off. I know Brother Harold's on the call and has has spoken to agents in California. So we talk to agents all over the United States. And when the word of mouth gets out, uh that is some of the best advertising. [1:41:35, 1:41:40]: That can happen. So um everyone in this country will know how nice of a place. [1:41:40, 1:41:43]: And how well a concert is going over in Stockbridge. [1:41:44, 1:41:50]: Harold Young could also speak on the similar type of marketing and promotion we do for the Tubman Museum. [1:41:51, 1:41:54]: In Macon, Georgia, which is another world class facility. [1:41:55, 1:41:57]: Uh yes, we um [1:41:58, 1:42:03]: Being the the the executive director of the uh Tupman African American Museum, uh we [1:42:04, 1:42:14]: We have a Pan African festival that we um that since I've been with the museum for six years, it started off pretty much at uh [1:42:15, 1:42:35]: probably like a couple hundred people at actually now we've been over for the last seven years we've grown that festival to over close to twenty thousand people over in a two-day period based on radio, uh social media and uh web you know every type of [1:42:35, 1:42:55]: marketing you want to do now with with your facility being brand new and everyone's excited about it, it's certainly going to spread like wildfire. There are agents that I've spoken to even today who are in Southern California, which I'm from, is very much [1:42:55, 1:43:09]: much excited want to talk about the 2022 schedule. So uh and they asked me to send pictures of it and they were very much impressed what you all have and said we definitely want have some of our want to have some of our artists play there. [1:43:09, 1:43:10]: Um [1:43:10, 1:43:30]: They're they're not going to be some of the artists that would play uh the Mercedes-Benz, you know, the 60,000 uh cedar uh arenas are like that. But they're certainly a you definitely have a market for the ones that are in between the Mabel House and that. So what [1:43:30, 1:43:50]: your seating capacity, which is excellent, there's definitely um uh a I mean definitely some energy and excitement about this. So I mean being that I'm I'm from Southern California, I work with the Greek theater, um, which is in Los Angeles, um, similar type [1:43:50, 1:43:56]: type of uh atmosphere which you all have in the middle of the city, uh on the top of Hollywood Hills. Um [1:43:57, 1:44:12]: they had to it had to become a staple at one point uh for the city as well because uh being outside amphitheater um it certainly had to do a lot of work and and and i think like uh mark said the the word of mouth is going to speak [1:44:13, 1:44:15]: volume which is going to go [1:44:15, 1:44:30]: across the country like wildfire because a lot of people artists love to play new good venues, especially with good acoustics, uh uh good energy from the community. Um well I mean well attended uh [1:44:30, 1:44:47]: uh venues. Uh also real quick, we had a uh a a concert at the Tupman Museum this past weekend. We had Tucker here. Uh Tucker is a line dance, uh Southern Soul gentleman. We had people the way we marketed, we had people fly in from um [1:44:48, 1:45:03]: Rochester, New York, uh Detroit, uh Los Angeles. And I know it was the artist, but this is the type of artist that we do touch and that we have relationships with that we can definitely bring into your venue as well. [1:45:04, 1:45:08]: Yeah, we have a number of stories like this. I believe another big success story would be uh [1:45:09, 1:45:11]: Um all that jazz at the top as well, Harold. [1:45:12, 1:45:27]: Yes. All that jazz is uh one of our staple events. We've had uh as we brought in um Pay LaBelle, we've had Stephanie Mills and Will Downing. We had the um we've had Jeffrey Osborne, we've had um [1:45:28, 1:45:44]: After seven, um and numerous of that that event has grown to be uh a sellout this year. I just signed contracts with with Smokey Robinson. So I'm bringing, I mean, so this is uh huge the re and these are the type of relationships that we have that um [1:45:44, 1:45:45]: And [1:45:45, 1:45:52]: It's it's hard to get a smokey Robinson on a one city type of unless they on tour. [1:45:52, 1:46:07]: even the the proposed artists that we talk to, they're like they're no one's really touring right now, but we're able to build relations of our relationships that we do have, they're accepting the dates, you know. So I'm really excited about that as well. [1:46:07, 1:46:10]: Yes, sir. And I'm proud to sit on the Tubman Board of Directors. [1:46:10, 1:46:11]: With Harold. [1:46:12, 1:46:15]: Good deal. Castleman Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:46:15, 1:46:23]: Uh thank you. Let me first say that it was great um meeting you all on Saturday, uh Haran Murray and uh Mark. [1:46:24, 1:46:25]: Uh [1:46:25, 1:46:26]: Uh [1:46:26, 1:46:29]: You know, you answered some of my questions. [1:46:29, 1:46:33]: Um and I know you all gave me an opportunity to [1:46:33, 1:46:37]: Um asked some questions before this evening and unfortunately [1:46:38, 1:46:41]: Uh I was not able to to get back with you all. So [1:46:42, 1:46:45]: Uh I'm I'm I'm being a little um [1:46:46, 1:46:49]: I guess cautious with some of these questions. [1:46:49, 1:46:54]: I I I do have questions centered around uh revenue. [1:46:55, 1:46:58]: Um name and rights sponsorships. [1:46:58, 1:47:09]: uh alcohol sales and those kind of things. But first question, and I know Miss Barber has a series of questions. I know that's why she wanna come last because I've I've seen some of her questions. Um [1:47:11, 1:47:12]: Covid. [1:47:12, 1:47:13]: Um [1:47:14, 1:47:15]: were cautions. [1:47:15, 1:47:17]: А сфоріс [1:47:17, 1:47:18]: Uh [1:47:18, 1:47:21]: Numbers, number of seat sales. [1:47:22, 1:47:32]: So can you speak to the amphitheater that y'all manage? What are some of the uh protocols that's in place uh for some of the uh amphitheaters that y'all are working with? [1:47:32, 1:47:37]: We follow the state guidelines ковід гайдніс. [1:47:37, 1:47:38]: At all of the facilities. [1:47:39, 1:47:42]: Uh right now there are no restrictions on ticket sales. [1:47:42, 1:47:43]: In the state of Georgia. [1:47:45, 1:47:47]: for an outdoor venue like this. [1:47:48, 1:47:55]: Yeah. And and uh ms mr. Knight, I you know, you could weigh in at some point, but I know there's been um [1:47:55, 1:47:57]: A topic of discussion. [1:47:58, 1:48:00]: For us here especially um [1:48:00, 1:48:07]: September the fourth and September the twenty-fifth. But I go through a a a couple other because I'm missing nine unless you want to speak to that now. [1:48:08, 1:48:16]: Um yeah, I I think just like you know, everybody we're monitoring um, you know, this COVID situation, especially with the Delta or Lambda variants. [1:48:17, 1:48:23]: that are out there and and obviously um it's hard to tell as things evolve uh you know so quickly but [1:48:23, 1:48:28]: Obviously, I think we need to take a you know, a a reasonable and cautious approach with respect to [1:48:28, 1:48:30]: Upcoming soft opening. [1:48:30, 1:48:35]: uh in terms of uh number of people for that particular event. [1:48:35, 1:48:38]: Obviously the um the major first major opening. [1:48:39, 1:48:41]: Uh expected later in September. [1:48:42, 1:48:47]: Um, you know, we'll we'll have to take the necessary precautions with respect to that and that may be [1:48:47, 1:48:51]: You know, the wearing a mask that may be temperature checks, that may be a number of different things. [1:48:52, 1:48:55]: um that could be in play based on the conditions at the time. [1:48:55, 1:49:05]: I think we want to balance um allowing people to have a great time at an amphitheater like this, but also we want to be very careful and cautious about [1:49:06, 1:49:10]: Um the variants as they exist in covet in in being wise. [1:49:11, 1:49:15]: In discerning of how we uh put in place certain measures that may be needed. [1:49:16, 1:49:17]: Given the conditions at the time. [1:49:18, 1:49:23]: Right. Thank you. Um Mr. Murray, I I I have read um [1:49:24, 1:49:25]: The agreement. [1:49:25, 1:49:27]: Uh two or three times in [1:49:27, 1:49:31]: I'm looking at my paper here and I I I have red flags everywhere. [1:49:31, 1:49:39]: Uh I did ask some of those questions on Saturday and I just want to thank you and and Mark and Harold for answering some of those. [1:49:39, 1:49:53]: I I may not get too too deep into some of those uh at this point, even though I know we are scheduled to approve uh of this agreement. But let me ask you, and I asked this question the other night too about uh naming rights. [1:49:54, 1:49:57]: And I know you all will be the ones out there uh beating the pavement. [1:49:58, 1:50:00]: Uh, you know, to get that. [1:50:00, 1:50:05]: But what authority or what what opportunity will the city of Stockbridge have? [1:50:05, 1:50:07]: Uh to have some [1:50:07, 1:50:10]: uh influence or input into [1:50:11, 1:50:12]: Um [1:50:12, 1:50:15]: The naming right. So who who actually gets that? [1:50:16, 1:50:27]: Yes, sir. Yes, sir, Councilman Thomas. After our very good discussion Saturday night, uh, we modified the contract. And I don't know if it's been distributed to everybody because it it it [1:50:27, 1:50:31]: Took a few hours today after speaking with the city attorney and [1:50:32, 1:50:39]: And the city manager, but the city of Stockbridge would have final approval on the naming rights. [1:50:39, 1:50:41]: uh sponsor [1:50:41, 1:50:43]: For the amphitheater. [1:50:44, 1:50:45]: And um [1:50:46, 1:50:52]: Uh I uh i as it does in in uh Fayetteville and for for a venue like this that the city owns, they they should. [1:50:53, 1:50:59]: And we would we've got a number of people who are interested in this. And it comes down to a couple of things. What fits [1:51:00, 1:51:04]: with the city of Stockbridge and of course the financial aspects of it. [1:51:04, 1:51:08]: Right. But the city and the city council would have approval of that, the final approval of that. [1:51:08, 1:51:11]: And I do appreciate that, but what what I [1:51:11, 1:51:15]: as an elect official style, what I really don't want to get into is [1:51:15, 1:51:17]: Micromanaging [1:51:18, 1:51:19]: Um десь [1:51:20, 1:51:21]: Every week, every month. [1:51:22, 1:51:35]: That is the reason why we're hiring you all to to actually to do that. And I know we are in this preliminary stage now. So for me, once we sort of sign off, if we agree to this tonight, once we sign off. [1:51:36, 1:51:38]: You know, that's that's pretty much it for me. [1:51:38, 1:51:41]: Uh unless there's some just glare in that. [1:51:41, 1:51:48]: um you know we need to sort of address. So and I I appreciate that modification. Uh I I really do. [1:51:48, 1:51:56]: Let me go to when you indicate um that percentage in food and beverage. [1:51:56, 1:51:58]: Are we talking about alcoholic beverages? [1:52:00, 1:52:07]: Uh yes, sir. And that was modified this morning also after after the same conference call. [1:52:08, 1:52:28]: We you you really heard me saying it tonight, huh? Yes, sir. We've got a I'm ready to go. But uh but but they they they came up with some good dis you came up with some very good discussion points. So what we have modified in this particular contract is instead of trying to pay the city and pay the Georgia Radio Alliance on a [1:52:28, 1:52:32]: net amount of sales, that would be harder to track. We would [1:52:32, 1:52:38]: Uh, we're proposing that it's just ten percent of the gross sales for food. [1:52:38, 1:52:42]: uh beverage and alcohol and that ten percent would come. [1:52:43, 1:52:43]: Two [1:52:44, 1:52:51]: The Georgia Radio Alliance, Stockbridge, and then the city of Stockbridge would would receive eighty-five percent of that amount. [1:52:52, 1:52:55]: And the Georgia Radio Alliance would receive fifteen percent amount. [1:52:56, 1:52:58]: And that's that's the same percentage we've got on the ticket sales. [1:52:59, 1:53:02]: Okay. And this is my last question, um, but uh [1:53:02, 1:53:06]: If I may, if I can reserve the right to have some follow up question later. [1:53:06, 1:53:10]: Um in looking at the agreement, um [1:53:11, 1:53:13]: It talks about um [1:53:14, 1:53:18]: management fees and the city of Stockbridge will provide [1:53:18, 1:53:21]: Uh the Georgia Radio Alliance um a [1:53:22, 1:53:24]: A certain amount per year. [1:53:24, 1:53:26]: uh management fee. [1:53:26, 1:53:30]: Uh it states that in one paragraph and then [1:53:31, 1:53:33]: And another paragraph it says [1:53:33, 1:53:34]: Um [1:53:36, 1:53:39]: It says concert revenue. [1:53:39, 1:53:42]: And uh and we sort of talked about that. [1:53:42, 1:53:48]: Uh I I I understand the percentage that the city would be getting and the percentage that you will be getting. [1:53:49, 1:53:51]: Uh I'm just I guess my question is. [1:53:52, 1:53:56]: Um i is that a a conflict? So I'm looking at [1:53:57, 1:53:59]: The management fee and and I'm [1:53:59, 1:54:03]: You know, we we we are sorta new at this and I'm sort of new at this. So I don't wanna [1:54:03, 1:54:05]: Seemed like uh [1:54:05, 1:54:07]: I'm experienced in this endeavor. I'm I'm not [1:54:08, 1:54:18]: Um, so I'm trying to I'm I'm trying to educate myself as well. And I want us as a city of Stockbridge to to to really get a good and decent [1:54:18, 1:54:20]: Uh agreement with you all. [1:54:20, 1:54:24]: So the uh management fee per year. [1:54:25, 1:54:26]: And the [1:54:27, 1:54:30]: I I guess the uh the revenue split. [1:54:31, 1:54:33]: It is is is that [1:54:33, 1:54:35]: Is that normal? Is that [1:54:36, 1:54:38]: the in the industry is that the way it goes. [1:54:39, 1:54:40]: Most [1:54:41, 1:54:50]: Deals like this with a management company, the management company does not have the marketing horsepower with the radio stations and the digital that we do. [1:54:50, 1:54:51]: Um [1:54:52, 1:55:01]: Usually there is a percentage split with the management company, and then the management company goes out and purchases the digital or the radio. [1:55:01, 1:55:11]: In this particular case, the the management fee would be ninety thousand dollars a year against a projected revenue for our company of six hundred and twenty-four thousand. [1:55:12, 1:55:13]: The projected revenue. [1:55:14, 1:55:15]: Uh actually the [1:55:16, 1:55:20]: The net revenue for the city of Stockbridge will be about one point two six million. [1:55:20, 1:55:25]: So we are a little different in the fact that we're sort of a one stop shop. [1:55:26, 1:55:28]: Is it is it because you have that [1:55:29, 1:55:36]: ownership or connection to all of the radio station that you indicated in your package? Yes, sir. For example, [1:55:37, 1:55:49]: I would not take on a facility in Birmingham, Alabama, because I would not have the the marketing horsepower or the the coverage via the radio stations and and digital and everything we do to handle that. [1:55:50, 1:55:54]: So this works just within our our strong coverage areas like a Fayetteville. [1:55:54, 1:55:56]: Uh like a stock bridge. [1:55:56, 1:55:57]: Um [1:55:58, 1:56:01]: Peachtree City, Atlanta, Macon. [1:56:02, 1:56:03]: Okay, okay. [1:56:03, 1:56:06]: Well I I'm going a year um [1:56:06, 1:56:19]: I I know Mr. Knight and that uh well I'm gonna ask I'm gonna throw this question out there and I know the only reason I'm doing that because someone asked me to ask a question. Mr. Knight, I I saw to pose this question to you. [1:56:19, 1:56:21]: Uh, folks are asking me. [1:56:21, 1:56:23]: Uh what type of um [1:56:24, 1:56:25]: Cooler. [1:56:25, 1:56:29]: Uh being able to bring in coolers and [1:56:30, 1:56:32]: Food, those those kind of things. So [1:56:32, 1:56:37]: Uh uh is this the appropriate time, Mr. Knight, to to answer that or you want to answer that at a later time? [1:56:37, 1:56:45]: I can very quickly. I've mentioned that a number of staff and I have been working uh together, mostly staff, and I've been part of meetings with them. [1:56:45, 1:56:51]: To talk about these various issues, what we're going to do uh very soon um is to develop [1:56:51, 1:56:58]: A list of guidelines for those who attend our venues, one of which, of course, would be respect to coolers. You don't want large [1:56:59, 1:57:19]: um plastic coolers that are on wheels because those create they're very awkward, they create space issues and so forth. What we have talked about is soft shell coolers at a certain size, which will be specified that people would be able to bring in. Obviously as a part of this also we're gonna have security up front to be able to search different different things as well. [1:57:19, 1:57:23]: And we've also talked about uh the staff came up with a very good idea this morning. [1:57:23, 1:57:28]: about um what what we could give as a token for our first event. [1:57:29, 1:57:36]: that would help with some of this, you know, in the future with respect to the types of of containers and/or bags that people could. [1:57:36, 1:57:37]: Could bring in. [1:57:37, 1:57:42]: Um but we'll specify all of that if the if the group here is is if in fact they are approved. [1:57:42, 1:57:51]: Uh, we would immediately uh get with them, uh, develop those guidelines and parameters by which attendees would uh need to adhere to. [1:57:51, 1:57:55]: so that everyone can have an enjoyable s experience uh at the amphitheater. [1:57:56, 1:58:03]: Okay. In in closing for for for my question, I just want to comment that uh Mark, I I appreciate your your showmanship. [1:58:04, 1:58:04]: Um [1:58:05, 1:58:08]: Uh you you you know, you you provided a a great show. [1:58:09, 1:58:17]: Uh and that was great. Great. Uh Harold, I'm I'm looking forward to sort of to get into your brains a little bit about the museum. [1:58:17, 1:58:20]: Uh as you know we have a cultural arts. [1:58:20, 1:58:22]: Uh on the path uh [1:58:23, 1:58:25]: I definitely want to but I tried to Google. [1:58:25, 1:58:29]: uh the museum there just to sort of see what you got going on there. But [1:58:29, 1:58:32]: А гів вас сама саме віздом. [1:58:33, 1:58:34]: Yeah we have [1:58:34, 1:58:40]: Um it's Tubmanmuseum.com. Not the whole, not Tubman Africa. It's just Tubmanmuseum.com you be with. [1:58:41, 1:58:56]: Uh we also have we just I just put up a virtual tour on there so you'd be able to see what we have. I just um I I launched it last Thursday so you'll be able to see what I have going on. Thank you very much. I'm I'm excited about that as well. [1:58:57, 1:59:00]: Okay. I I yield back, Mayor, and I I appreciate you all. [1:59:01, 1:59:05]: No problem. Appreciate it. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:59:06, 1:59:16]: Yes. Um is it Mr. Murray, the one who just mentioned about the projections, revenue projection? Yes. Okay. So [1:59:17, 1:59:23]: Is it true that that 1.6 you mentioned for the city? [1:59:23, 1:59:31]: Is it true that that includes full capacity and selling of all 3,200 or 4,000 seats? [1:59:32, 1:59:44]: The that number for the city, the 1,266,000 is based on 3,500 tickets per show. And the current seating chart shows approximately 4,200 seats available. [1:59:45, 1:59:49]: Gotcha. Thank you. Show. [1:59:50, 1:59:58]: Which uh the ticket revenue would be approximately two hundred and eighty-five thousand dollars. Gotcha. Um we know that we're in the midst of a pandemic. [1:59:58, 1:59:59]: And [2:00:00, 2:00:07]: The county has issued a state of emergency. So we're not gonna be able to meet that target of sales. We already know that. [2:00:08, 2:00:10]: So I wanted to just keep that in mind. [2:00:11, 2:00:16]: Um we will follow whatever guidance the the the city and the the state and county provide us. [2:00:17, 2:00:25]: And thank you, Mr. Murray, for um providing responses to all of the questions that I sent you earlier today. We were very thorough. [2:00:25, 2:00:30]: If you don't mind, um just for public knowledge, I do have um [2:00:31, 2:00:37]: A few questions that I really want the public to be aware of, if I may. [2:00:38, 2:00:54]: Is it true that the prices for the artists, are they negotiable when you go and approach them about a performance? I think that's a question, Mr. I can't remember his name. They are, and then Harold Young can speak to that. Uh those prices are negotiable. [2:00:56, 2:01:01]: And negotiable to a certain degree, you know, they it depends which um [2:01:02, 2:01:06]: Now your venue is going to be competing with other [2:01:07, 2:01:13]: There are other promoters and other venues in the Metro Atlanta area. [2:01:13, 2:01:19]: Um that's one of your one of your issues that you have. Um, but it's not a [2:01:20, 2:01:27]: a negative thing because people want I mean it's a it's a new venue. So they would like to be able to play that and put that on a resume as well. [2:01:28, 2:01:30]: The other thing is um [2:01:30, 2:01:50]: There are some artists that are negotiable. They'll give I mean, I negotiate everyone. I mean, I don't just because you ask just because you asked for a million dollars, I'm not gonna pay you a million dollars, you know, and space. And that's also done, I do research as well. And we do as well. But you know, how's your record sales? I mean, how's your rate? [2:01:50, 2:01:58]: Radio play, how's your how's your presence? What's I mean, there's a lot of things into play. And even as a promoter as myself, [2:01:59, 2:01:59]: I don't [2:02:00, 2:02:04]: bring eva events or present events as a fan. [2:02:05, 2:02:11]: A a p a bad promoter uh is a fan because they're thinking about what they like. And [2:02:11, 2:02:27]: everybody that I like, the audience or the the general public may not like. So I can't just say, oh, I love to see, you know, whoever and I'm the only one to enjoy the artist. So I don't we w we don't purchase as a [2:02:28, 2:02:28]: Um [2:02:29, 2:02:49]: as a fan. So you purchase as the community, what's what you know what's what's draw what would what would bring some attention, who's hot out there, who's who's affordable. Uh there's a lot of factors that go into that. You know, the time frame, like n uh uh well you're outside venue, but if it was [2:02:49, 2:03:09]: inside venue I'll be considered a Christmas show, you know, but you're not, but now you're going to the spring. What's look what's going on? Who has a new album coming out? A new CD release album I just did it myself. Sorry about that. Who has a new C new project coming out in the in the in the uh the springtime? [2:03:09, 2:03:29]: going on tour, uh who's gonna be in the area in um Florida or the the touching cities uh that we can we can find out and I've already started talking to different agents on the tourist tour schedules or who's gonna be able to come to the Atlanta area and go back home or who's near who lives near here. [2:03:29, 2:03:31]: So all those factors go into play as well. [2:03:31, 2:03:42]: Yes, and Harold, you're being very modest. Harold is a tough negotiator, and he also has 27 radio stations and a large platform in his pocket. And if these artists want proper radio play. [2:03:42, 2:03:44]: They they do negotiate with us. [2:03:45, 2:03:56]: I'm glad to know that. Good. Okay, so I do have um several other follow-up questions, if I may. Um I wanted to, and Mr. Knighton, this is a question for you. Um [2:03:56, 2:04:01]: You did answer my question earlier today, but I think it's beneficial for the community if you just [2:04:01, 2:04:09]: make them aware. Can you explain why this particular service was not appro advertised by competitive bidding? [2:04:09, 2:04:11]: Is that a question that you want to answer or? [2:04:11, 2:04:13]: Mr. Beery, the city attorney. [2:04:14, 2:04:17]: Um, I I suppose either one he can certainly weigh in as well. [2:04:17, 2:04:26]: Uh professional service is allowed uh in our ordinance uh for specific types of things, certain types of uses, certain types of uses that are not covered. [2:04:26, 2:04:28]: And traditional areas. [2:04:28, 2:04:34]: One of the things with respect to looking at a management company such as this is [2:04:34, 2:04:40]: The ability of that management company to be directly connected to the city of Stockbridge and have [2:04:40, 2:04:45]: Um the ability to uh be hands on uh with us to understand [2:04:45, 2:04:52]: not only uh the lay of the land here in the metro Atlanta area, but as you mentioned or as Mr. Murray mentioned, of course. [2:04:53, 2:04:57]: Um the radio station uh support that they have throughout the metro Atlanta area. [2:04:58, 2:05:05]: And uh uh those are several reasons why uh as a professional service uh this was proposed. [2:05:06, 2:05:12]: to be able to take a look at excuse me, various entities that were could provide the service to us. [2:05:12, 2:05:13]: And [2:05:13, 2:05:17]: Ensure that we're not a small fish, so to speak, in a big pond. [2:05:17, 2:05:21]: But they have uh direct connections to the city of Stockbridge. [2:05:21, 2:05:25]: Uh, they are working on behalf of the city of Stockbridge specifically. [2:05:25, 2:05:30]: And are not spread too thin with respect to paying the attention to our facility. [2:05:31, 2:05:33]: And everything that comes along with it. [2:05:33, 2:05:38]: um as uh some others might be. And so this fits with within uh the parameters. [2:05:38, 2:05:43]: uh for Mr. Berry uh of a professional service and that is why it is being brought to you as such here. [2:05:44, 2:05:53]: Thank you, Mr. Knighton. Okay, this is a question for Mr. Murray. Can you explain for the public what naming rights means? [2:05:54, 2:05:54]: Yes, ma'am. [2:05:55, 2:05:58]: The ma the naming rights in the in the reason. [2:05:59, 2:06:05]: sponsors are interested in that is they're included on all marketing materials, whether it be a website or [2:06:05, 2:06:07]: uh a radio station. [2:06:07, 2:06:08]: For example [2:06:09, 2:06:11]: You know, I'm I'm using some of the artists we've been talking to. [2:06:12, 2:06:17]: This would be the grand opening of the let's say Piedmont Hospital Amphitheater. [2:06:18, 2:06:20]: In beautiful Stockbridge, Georgia. [2:06:21, 2:06:22]: Presented by [2:06:24, 2:06:25]: Pepsi Cola. No. [2:06:26, 2:06:30]: The Pepsi Cola concert series, but that's that's how it is promoted. [2:06:30, 2:06:35]: So you will hear that almost on an hourly basis with the naming rights in every [2:06:36, 2:06:38]: promotion or spot. [2:06:38, 2:06:47]: Or add the presenting sponsor as well. And then the other 30 sponsors will be rotated in there. You never want to put more than three to four. [2:06:47, 2:06:50]: in a a spot or an advertisement because it gets confusing. [2:06:51, 2:06:56]: So that's that's how that would work. So it that's why it's important that the city do have [2:06:56, 2:06:59]: Does have the input on the naming rights. [2:07:00, 2:07:03]: We don't want you to have to worry about every sponsor that we sell in. [2:07:04, 2:07:07]: But if it's connected to the the city's name, absolutely. [2:07:08, 2:07:28]: And also just like the Mercedes-Benz, you know, you you're talking about uh big names. You're talking about this like the Staple Center. You you know, and long so you you you're constantly hearing their their their name is constantly being promoted. I mean uh at every given time, even in television. [2:07:28, 2:07:37]: radio, uh whatever is constantly being turned. So a naming rights will is definitely a marketing tool for that company as well. [2:07:38, 2:07:39]: Thank you for that. [2:07:39, 2:07:40]: Nightway. [2:07:40, 2:07:46]: Um if you don't mind, let me see. I asked about billboards earlier. Um [2:07:47, 2:07:51]: I know that you said you all use majority radio ads. [2:07:51, 2:07:51]: Yes. [2:07:53, 2:07:58]: Would it be um beneficial for us? And I guess this is a a question for Mr. Knighton. [2:07:59, 2:08:04]: Uh because I asked this question earlier this year, when we approved that um agreement. [2:08:04, 2:08:10]: for billboards for the Merrill Manders and Ted Strickland, I asked um about [2:08:11, 2:08:13]: advertising for the amphitheater. [2:08:13, 2:08:16]: We assume that the management company would take that on. [2:08:17, 2:08:19]: So where are we with that now? [2:08:19, 2:08:20]: Knowing that [2:08:21, 2:08:26]: Billboard advertisement is not something that is included in this current proposal. [2:08:27, 2:08:28]: Mr. Knighton. [2:08:31, 2:08:33]: Well, I probably would mention that [2:08:33, 2:08:40]: As I understood, Mr. Murray and the group would use some digital platforms like billboards from time to time to promote events. [2:08:41, 2:08:47]: This is my understanding. If I'm if I'm incorrect, please tell me. And that's a good question because. [2:08:48, 2:09:00]: The reason we did not put billboards in this is because we do not own the billboard platform. We lease billboards, probably an average of twenty plus a month in Atlanta. [2:09:01, 2:09:04]: And for appropriate shows, uh, I would [2:09:05, 2:09:15]: use some of those billboards. If a show wasn't doing well, for example, I would up the promotion on the stations, I would up the promotion on everything I had, which would be billboards. [2:09:16, 2:09:22]: On the the proper show, like we were talking about earlier, like a big country show, a billboard in Chattanooga might be. [2:09:22, 2:09:30]: Might be appropriate. But the reason it's not included in this contract is because we do not own that particular platform like we do the rest. [2:09:31, 2:09:37]: So I think those few times that you will use billboards, who's going to [2:09:37, 2:09:42]: assume the cost of that. Would that be the management company or the city? [2:09:42, 2:09:58]: If it's in an existing billboard that we have, uh, we would assume the cost of it. If we needed additional billboards, for example, uh in a Warner Robbins or a Chattanooga, I I would go to the city and ask for approval for additional budget for that. [2:09:59, 2:10:02]: Okay, I'd much rather have that included in this contract. [2:10:03, 2:10:09]: Um I just don't I just don't own the billboards. Right. I understand that. Um [2:10:10, 2:10:16]: And maybe Mr. Berry can help with that later. But that's just one of my questions. You answer eleven of them. [2:10:17, 2:10:19]: Um let's see. Oh [2:10:19, 2:10:39]: Mr. Murray, okay, just for public knowledge, um, some of the questions, not all of them, you did respond and I am satisfied with your responses. Um, just for public knowledge, I want you to um just acknowledge your response to my questions. One was who or how will we monitor feedback from event attendees? [2:10:39, 2:10:42]: to ensure their satisfaction. [2:10:42, 2:10:46]: Um you responded and said you're on site management and website survey. [2:10:46, 2:10:54]: Yes, ma'am. Yes. Uh Mr. Ware will be the the on-site manager. We will have a staff of [2:10:54, 2:10:59]: between vendor security, everything, close to a hundred people. [2:10:59, 2:11:00]: One side. [2:11:00, 2:11:03]: А іні проблем. [2:11:03, 2:11:10]: that we can head off at the pass, we will before it gets to the point where somebody would go to the [2:11:10, 2:11:13]: Stockbridge Amphitheater website, which we will be creating. [2:11:13, 2:11:16]: uh where they can say positive things or negative things. [2:11:17, 2:11:29]: But our goal with with all venues is to keep people happy. We always keep a block of tickets for somebody who is who's not happy because they might be sitting next to somebody who is loud or the seat wasn't as good as they thought it was. [2:11:32, 2:11:52]: I don't know if I should tell that on the middle of the uh this broadcast, everybody'll be sitting in the front row, but we try to keep everybody as happy as possible. We just want to keep everybody as happy as possible. Yes. Thank you for that. Another question that I asked, what are the time slots for the radio ads and what percentage will be for morning? [2:11:51, 2:11:57]: drive versus the afternoon and evening drive. I know lunchtime drive is not ideal. [2:11:57, 2:12:08]: Well, another good question. We run these promotional announcements and advertisers what we call run of schedule, which is an equal vertical and horizontal rotation, so six A to six A. [2:12:08, 2:12:10]: And Monday through Sunday. [2:12:11, 2:12:22]: This schedule is so heavy between the live and the promotion things. It'll be mentioned almost on an hourly basis. And the more sponsors we sell, the more spots we'll have to run because we can only put [2:12:22, 2:12:25]: Really, three sponsors inside of an ed. [2:12:25, 2:12:30]: because it will already have the presenting sponsor and the naming rights sponsor in there. [2:12:30, 2:12:31]: That's the [2:12:31, 2:12:33]: Thank you for that. Um [2:12:35, 2:12:53]: We talked about the split. I know with the ticket sales um in this proposed contract, it mentions um is it a eighty twenty split with the eighty split of the ticket? Eighty-five to the city of Stockbridge and fifteen to the Georgia Radio Alliance Stockbridge. [2:12:53, 2:12:56]: Okay, thank you for that. [2:12:56, 2:13:05]: we know that we're in the middle of a pandemic, so we're not gonna sail to full capacity. Um so that is why I was making suggestions on [2:13:06, 2:13:08]: Other areas in which the city [2:13:08, 2:13:11]: could make up for that financial deficit. [2:13:12, 2:13:12]: Um [2:13:14, 2:13:20]: in terms of the food and beverage. I know the contract doesn't specifically mention alcohol sales. [2:13:21, 2:13:23]: Um separate from food and beverage. [2:13:24, 2:13:26]: Yes, the the alcohol sales [2:13:27, 2:13:31]: In the projections that we did that was included in that number. [2:13:31, 2:13:34]: And and per the councilman's earlier question. [2:13:35, 2:13:39]: We've modified that to be ten percent of gross sales. [2:13:39, 2:13:51]: the the the point of sale system, you'd be able to monitor it almost on an hourly basis and see exactly what the the sale was, whether it was a a Pepsi Cola, whether it was a a hamburger, whether it was a [2:13:51, 2:13:53]: A beer, whether it was spirits. [2:13:54, 2:14:01]: And uh that would be a considerable amount of money. Certain formats, for example, we have matched the [2:14:01, 2:14:04]: beer sales on the ticket sale revenue. [2:14:08, 2:14:09]: Okay. [2:14:10, 2:14:10]: Um [2:14:12, 2:14:20]: Oh, uh this is a follow-up question um with and I can't remember your name, I'm sorry, the one that's the make who? [2:14:21, 2:14:22]: Harold Young. [2:14:22, 2:14:25]: Harold. Brother Harold. [2:14:25, 2:14:28]: Um this is a question for you. So [2:14:29, 2:14:41]: When there is an agreement made with an artist or whoever to perform, those documents will they be made available for the city? [2:14:42, 2:14:48]: Most definitely. I mean because it's the city of Stockbridge um that is [2:14:48, 2:15:08]: funding this project. So it's definitely it's yeah. I'm only negotiating for you all. We're working for you all. I mean, so it's definitely not a Harold Young production, you know, and you know, no. Any anything that uh that I speak of, I'm speaking [2:15:08, 2:15:11]: on the behalf of the city of Stockbridge. [2:15:12, 2:15:15]: So those are definitely your documents and definitely will be forwarded to [2:15:16, 2:15:29]: uh the attorney or the the city manager and whoever else needs to see them to verify. I would not negotiate I I I would not sign off on it until those are approved and says by the by the powers to be. [2:15:29, 2:15:37]: Thank you. So this is a um final question for Mr. Knighton. Mr. Knighton, so is there a need for a broker slash agent? [2:15:40, 2:15:55]: Is there still a need for a broker slash agent? No, no, no, not at all. Because because this group being all inclusive, they operate in that space and provide the nest those would provide those functions that a traditional broker would be. So no. [2:15:55, 2:16:07]: Okay, my last and final question. I wanted to ask staff, um, have the terms specifically the percentages of revenue um have those been negotiated? [2:16:08, 2:16:19]: Has staff negotiated these terms and procedures? Uh to some extent we have some of those items. We've had some conversations about um several of those items with respect to [2:16:20, 2:16:23]: Uh, we had met uh boy several weeks ago. [2:16:23, 2:16:28]: kind of gone through everything um and you know some of the modifications even made today. [2:16:29, 2:16:36]: Um, so with respect to those particular numbers, we think that they are are are fair and ultimately the bottom line. [2:16:37, 2:16:43]: that shows um the the ultimate revenue versus expenses that would come to the city of stockbridge. [2:16:44, 2:16:45]: Um is positive. [2:16:45, 2:16:48]: Uh so we think that those are are are in order. [2:16:49, 2:16:52]: Okay, so there is a revised contract. [2:16:52, 2:16:54]: Um other than the one that we have already. [2:16:55, 2:17:02]: There were uh Mr Mr. Murray incorporated the course of the day because of some of the questions and some of the clarifications that were needed. [2:17:03, 2:17:12]: Mr. Murray provided us late this afternoon some of those revisions, some of those slight revisions that incorporated some of these questions that were asked or clarifications to be made. [2:17:12, 2:17:21]: Were there any revisions to the percentages of the sponsorships, the naming rights, food and beverage? [2:17:22, 2:17:34]: Was any of that changed? The only revision that was made was the the food and beverage. Rather than try and do it on a net profit amount, which would be very difficult to calculate. [2:17:35, 2:17:38]: We're proposing that we do it on just ten percent of the gross. [2:17:39, 2:17:41]: That way it's there's no question. [2:17:41, 2:17:45]: If if the vendor did not make any money, the city still gets paid. [2:17:46, 2:17:47]: on whatever the sales might be. [2:17:48, 2:17:51]: Okay. The other percentages have remained the same. [2:17:51, 2:18:04]: Okay, now as far as the is it naming rights, where the merchandise sale of merchandise, um, so the city would not benefit from any of the sales. [2:18:05, 2:18:10]: The city will get 30% of everything that we sell as far as naming rights. [2:18:10, 2:18:13]: А еврій спонсор [2:18:13, 2:18:16]: We've got on the air a presenting sponsor. [2:18:16, 2:18:20]: The city will get thirty percent of what we [2:18:20, 2:18:25]: So and we'll be paid on a monthly basis based on our receiving payment. [2:18:26, 2:18:33]: And that's exactly what we do in Fayetteville is the is the fifteenth of every month, Fayetteville receives a check and the amount of thirty percent. [2:18:33, 2:18:35]: Of what we have generated. [2:18:35, 2:18:41]: And it it's worked well to have a really we're paid on a commission basis. We don't get paid unless we perform. [2:18:42, 2:18:47]: Gotcha. Thank you. Thank you all for being patient with me and answering my questions. [2:18:48, 2:18:49]: Thank you for being so thorough. [2:18:50, 2:18:52]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [2:18:52, 2:19:01]: Uh thank you. Uh Mr. Murray, let me just say I I do appreciate you uh making these modifications. I know we we spoke Saturday and [2:19:02, 2:19:06]: I know you've g received some emails and we just appreciate you for the modification. [2:19:06, 2:19:09]: But one last question. Um [2:19:11, 2:19:15]: You mentioned, I know you modified from the ten [2:19:16, 2:19:23]: Concerts in the concert calendar year. I know you moved that up to twelve. Is that correct? [2:19:23, 2:19:24]: Yes, sir. [2:19:25, 2:19:26]: Okay. [2:19:26, 2:19:29]: The the the issue well, could explain to me. [2:19:30, 2:19:31]: Um [2:19:32, 2:19:35]: The authority okay, out of that calendar year. [2:19:35, 2:19:37]: There are some [2:19:37, 2:19:41]: I would say Fridays and some Saturdays and some Sundays. [2:19:41, 2:19:42]: That are not booked. [2:19:43, 2:19:45]: And in this agreement it talks about [2:19:46, 2:19:47]: Um [2:19:47, 2:19:49]: You have authority. [2:19:49, 2:19:52]: So could you and Mr. Nine Sow to speak to [2:19:53, 2:19:54]: Uh what [2:19:55, 2:19:57]: Uh what we can do what [2:19:58, 2:20:06]: What can we do uh on those dates that are not booked? Uh I I want to start to get into the limitations. [2:20:06, 2:20:10]: of what we can do. So you say a Saturday, we don't have anything booked. [2:20:11, 2:20:13]: Um, through your management. [2:20:13, 2:20:16]: Uh what is it that we can and we can't do? [2:20:18, 2:20:21]: Mr. Knight, I could I could maybe start start with that. Go ahead. Go ahead. [2:20:21, 2:20:22]: So [2:20:23, 2:20:28]: Anything that the city would like to do in addition to the the number of concerts, which is really [2:20:28, 2:20:31]: governed more by budget than the number of shows. [2:20:31, 2:20:34]: Uh we would manage that. [2:20:35, 2:20:36]: For the city. [2:20:37, 2:20:38]: And um [2:20:40, 2:20:47]: If it was 10 or if it was 15, it really wouldn't matter. But it is important that the management company stay in place. [2:20:48, 2:20:55]: Uh for example, we've talked about security, using the same security, people that are familiar with the venue and familiar with the people. [2:20:55, 2:21:00]: The vendor that particular vendor is gonna have fifty people working. [2:21:01, 2:21:04]: It will be smoother using the same people. [2:21:04, 2:21:06]: Uh sound provider, same thing. [2:21:07, 2:21:11]: It will be smoother using the same people. In fact, it would be [2:21:11, 2:21:14]: Very difficult to do something that did not run through. [2:21:15, 2:21:19]: the the management company, everything from the ambulance service to to you name it. [2:21:19, 2:21:30]: Mr. Knighton, you can fill in the Yeah, I and I think if I understand Councilman Thomas's question, for instance, there's flexibility here. In other words, the twelve there's twelve, but there's also [2:21:31, 2:21:32]: If an artist becomes available. [2:21:33, 2:21:51]: that you know we know would do do great here at the amphitheater, then that becomes another event. It just becomes a matter of revenue expenses and scaling that event during the course of the year. So that could, you know, there could be many more events like that. The other thing with respect to city events, I think may have been a question as well, when the amphitheater is not being utilized. [2:21:51, 2:21:55]: Um uh obviously that's the city's facility. [2:21:55, 2:22:00]: And for certain, you know, events that we traditionally have. [2:22:00, 2:22:09]: Um we obviously can be use that facility. Um something uh that would be huge, I would imagine next year would be Juneteenth in particular. [2:22:09, 2:22:14]: But we would have the the amphitheater and would utilize the facility probably. [2:22:14, 2:22:31]: uh near its capacity. But the other things that we have during the course of the year as well, the other events that we would have and use the amphitheater for, obviously those would be in the offing uh in uh in addition to that, as well as I'm sure that and we've already been approached [2:22:31, 2:22:37]: by or it's been alluded to that certain schools may want to use the facility for a particular event. [2:22:37, 2:22:46]: or a um uh an an entity um like a puppeteering or dance or something like that may want to use the facility. [2:22:46, 2:22:50]: And I think um, you know, based obviously on the councils. [2:22:50, 2:22:54]: discussion that we want to make the facility available for [2:22:55, 2:23:09]: certain entities like that because they may not have a current facility like that in Henry County or Stockbridge. And we want to be able to provide that availability, of course, with certain parameters, of course, but uh to have the venue to be able to utilize [2:23:09, 2:23:21]: um even more than just entertainment, a concert venue, but can be a comprehensive venue that could be utilized in many other ways that could support not only the educational and and [2:23:21, 2:23:24]: Health of young people, but also. [2:23:25, 2:23:27]: You know, obviously it's a quality of life issue as well. [2:23:28, 2:23:32]: Yeah, I I just realized the definition, Mr. Murray, Mr. Nine. [2:23:32, 2:23:36]: Uh in the in the agreement it said exclusive [2:23:36, 2:23:37]: Authority. [2:23:38, 2:23:40]: And I know what you just explained. [2:23:40, 2:23:48]: But what is what is what is missing, I guess in the um exclusive [2:23:49, 2:23:51]: Authority. So would there be [2:23:52, 2:23:52]: Um [2:23:55, 2:24:00]: A clause related to that. I I I I think you answered it and where you did answer, I'm okay with that. [2:24:01, 2:24:05]: But it's just what is what is written, what is stated, when it said exclusive. [2:24:05, 2:24:08]: And I know, you know, in this age of [2:24:08, 2:24:09]: Balsous said [2:24:10, 2:24:11]: Disagreement. [2:24:11, 2:24:12]: And those kind of things. [2:24:13, 2:24:14]: I just want to make sure that [2:24:15, 2:24:16]: That all of that leeway [2:24:17, 2:24:19]: It it's sort of understood going forward. [2:24:19, 2:24:22]: I would hate for us to get get to a point where [2:24:22, 2:24:27]: Oh well the agreement said we have exclusive authority. [2:24:27, 2:24:33]: Now and hopefully we're not gonna get there, but I'm just saying it's it's the language, I guess, and that term exclusive. [2:24:34, 2:24:38]: But the way you explain it, I'm okay with that. But I'm just asking, I guess. [2:24:38, 2:24:42]: Does that word exclusive need to be? [2:24:43, 2:24:43]: Um [2:24:44, 2:24:48]: loosely designed or modified or uh just [2:24:48, 2:24:50]: Both of y'all could respond to that. [2:24:51, 2:24:53]: Or Scott McPherson, are you? [2:24:54, 2:24:55]: Still on the [2:24:56, 2:24:56]: Is you? [2:24:57, 2:25:04]: Yes, I'm yes, I'm here and I was following that. Uh councilman, it's it's an excellent point that you raised, but [2:25:05, 2:25:14]: You know, us lawyers we're always parsing every word, and that's kind of important here because if you look at the first page of the contract. [2:25:15, 2:25:30]: It mentions exclusive control and talking about authority, but it is qualified by uh the Stockbridge amphitheater related to the 2021 and 2022 concert series. [2:25:30, 2:25:31]: And I I think [2:25:32, 2:25:37]: some of the concerns you're raising, valid concerns, but they appear to be uh [2:25:38, 2:25:42]: Outside of the concert series, meaning it would be um [2:25:42, 2:26:02]: a negotiated relationship similar to what Mr. Knighton has been discussing with Mr. Murray for events that were not directly related to the 2021 and 2022 concert series. So I I I think the agreement uh does give you the room you need not to uh necessarily be hamstrung by [2:26:02, 2:26:04]: That term exclusive. [2:26:05, 2:26:15]: Okay. I I think it and uh and I yield because I know some other council members wanna wanna re I see their hands raised. So I yield back. Thank you all, Mr. Murray and Mr. McPherson. Thank y'all. [2:26:16, 2:26:17]: Councilman Gann, go ahead, please. [2:26:18, 2:26:23]: Thank you. I agree with Councilman Thomas in the word exclusive. Um, I would like to [2:26:24, 2:26:35]: probably see in that contract that we actually um have a statement there um with those conditions. [2:26:36, 2:26:43]: Those other conditions in regards to our city events. Those are our particular events that we want to utilize the amphitheater. [2:26:43, 2:26:54]: So unless there's some type of definition term of concert series and and what that is, I think it's broad to that point. I would like for it to actually specifically state. [2:26:55, 2:26:56]: That we are allowed. [2:26:57, 2:26:57]: Um [2:26:58, 2:27:01]: that we're utilizing, you know, if the city have events. [2:27:02, 2:27:06]: Those those aren't a part of the concert series. We have a a city staff team for that. [2:27:07, 2:27:08]: That we've already discussed, right? [2:27:09, 2:27:09]: So [2:27:10, 2:27:13]: I think that we we really probably should put that language in there. [2:27:14, 2:27:17]: Okay. The attorneys if the attorneys are attorneys are on [2:27:17, 2:27:19]: Perhaps we can craft something here. [2:27:21, 2:27:29]: All right. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Mayor. I'm sorry. And that my other question was um, based off of your experience, Mr. Murray, and your team. [2:27:30, 2:27:30]: Um [2:27:32, 2:27:42]: at the other locations. Are there any of those amphitheaters such as Fayette Bale or anywhere that purchases their own equipment so that when they'll act [2:27:42, 2:27:46]: um comes on board, whether they lease that equipment, some some artists [2:27:46, 2:27:51]: prefer to lease the equipment that's already in place and some prefer to bring their equipment. [2:27:51, 2:27:53]: Do you have have you had any experience with that? [2:27:54, 2:27:58]: I'll speak briefly on that and then I'll let let Mr. Young weigh in. [2:27:58, 2:28:01]: Okay. Most of the venues uh [2:28:02, 2:28:05]: lease the equipment from from a company like us or a third party. [2:28:05, 2:28:06]: Sound provider. [2:28:07, 2:28:08]: Uh [2:28:09, 2:28:15]: Some venues purchase what we call the arrays, which are the big speakers that were hanging from the uh [2:28:15, 2:28:22]: from the stage and the subwoofers below it. But I'll let uh Harold Young speak further on that. He has more experience than I. [2:28:23, 2:28:24]: Uh huh. [2:28:25, 2:28:40]: There's some like in every facility, like there's some lighting, there's some sound that is always there. Uh each artist have their own specifications on certain equipment and I would [2:28:40, 2:29:00]: I would not recommend this the city purchasing uh any because it always changes. Every art there's certain boards, there's certain keyboards, there's certain drums, there's certain drumsticks that they may even ask for. And you know, you will get into the weeds of that uh I I don't think you want to go. [2:29:00, 2:29:16]: that deep into uh making sure that every artist because a uh an RB artist may want something that a country artists have and it it's just it's a it's a lot. There's certain soundboards that um [2:29:17, 2:29:37]: Some artists won't even play out of it, which y it wouldn't matter to an the average person, like like to anyone. It's like what's the difference? It you you plug in a microphone into this thing and it comes out. But there's certain uh mackey boards and so all over the c there's certain it's just like you like your particular car, you know, I'm not gonna drive a [2:29:37, 2:29:57]: You go anymore because I drive a Pontiac, you know, and but it still rides, but it's it's it's the same concept. Every artist have their own mindset on things. So I would not get into if my suggestion, not purchase certain things, but uh having a lighting, uh certain lights and spotlights. [2:29:57, 2:30:02]: Definitely yes. Um I would I would look into something of that. [2:30:04, 2:30:24]: Each each of those artists and uh Harold, thanks for explaining that, but when you get the writer um with every show is different. So in that writer, uh that's when we would go back to um our team and just make sure everything was brought out that that particular writer asked for. And each writer [2:30:23, 2:30:43]: rider is different. Each stage plot is different. They're gonna want us one one group may want one riser in the middle for the drummer. Um if we hire a Patty Labelle, they may want four risers um and a whole different um set of lighting. So uh but each one of them is different. That's why I too with [2:30:43, 2:30:45]: Would would [2:30:45, 2:30:46]: Would vote against um [2:30:47, 2:30:50]: uh the owning of equipment versus um [2:30:51, 2:30:53]: You know, just using a using our company. [2:30:55, 2:30:56]: Okay. [2:30:56, 2:30:58]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:31:00, 2:31:07]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um I went to a venue. I got about three things and I'm gonna let it go. Uh we I [2:31:07, 2:31:11]: I think the contract do does need to add. I th but I think the contract [2:31:11, 2:31:14]: Uh, the agreement where it's in place now only speaks to the [2:31:15, 2:31:35]: concerts that you all are going to be doing, but I guess that the birds need to be in there to be more specific to protect the city and whatever we do, uh, even when it comes to short movers or anything that we talked about. I went to I've been to several concerts where and I would I'm gonna come back in a minute to the the rent equipment, but I've been to several concerts uh well not sever [2:31:34, 2:31:47]: several but some outdoor venues where umbrellas weren't weren't allowed inside because of obvious reasons. Uh is that something that you guys have seen that umbrellas itself wasn't allowed in? [2:31:48, 2:31:53]: That is the case in most every outdoor in venue that umbrellas are not allowed in. [2:31:53, 2:31:55]: Uh they can be dangerous just [2:31:55, 2:32:02]: By poking somebody in the eye, they can be used as a weapon. They're just uh, I would not suggest allowing that. [2:32:03, 2:32:05]: Okay. Um [2:32:05, 2:32:08]: When when I used to go get vehicles repaired. [2:32:08, 2:32:27]: The price was never the way it's supposed to have been that I thought it was gonna be because the person doing the repairing, I'm not a mechanic, he would always say, Well, I had to purchase accessories. Would there be some type of price list that you guys supply the city? Because we we don't know anything about sounds. You guys just mentioned some technical stuff about equipment. [2:32:28, 2:32:48]: And so not saying that you all will, but how did this how does the city protect themselves from inflated rates on equipment being rented? Because that's gonna ultimately affect the uh the 30, 70 percentage uh that comes out on what the artist wants and what you guys, what you all provide them versus what we the knowledge we know of this equipment. [2:32:48, 2:33:01]: versus what our percentage is to the city. Well the the percentage on all these gross amounts wouldn't be affected. Uh like Harold was talking about on the uh [2:33:02, 2:33:03]: Of the talent. [2:33:04, 2:33:11]: It it varies depending on the talent. Patty LaBelle may have a a certain equipment list versus somebody else. And um [2:33:13, 2:33:33]: That most of that is a third party that we work with. Harold, you can speak on that as well. And and what I've done over the years is do a buyout. So uh I pay one price and that's what to get like Patty LaBelle has a grand piano that's being that's [2:33:33, 2:33:47]: will be delivered, you know, so we don't have to go rent a, go try to find a grand piano. There are companies across the company they call Backline. Backline is all the instruments. And there are company certain production companies that just um [2:33:48, 2:34:08]: that handle that. So there would never be a like a a a set priceless. You just do a buyout and and it's that's a certain cost of because knowing the instruments, there's some people may have pyrotechnics and all this stuff. It's all negotiated and within the production. So there is no like say these drums sticks cost ten dollars. [2:34:08, 2:34:28]: And we start renting that like that. No, we go through once we go through the writer, we we know that they need, we'll send it to their a their several different um backline companies. We know what what it should cost. We know if it's influctuated. We're working for you all because if we don't make if if if we don't [2:34:28, 2:34:38]: do this right, it this is not a good relationship. You know, so it's it's not a thing that we would ever try to let a third party take advantage of basically us and you all. [2:34:38, 2:34:47]: So well said, Harold. We're looking at it three, four years down the road, not making six hundred and twenty-four thousand dollars, making one million six hundred and twenty-four thousand. [2:34:47, 2:34:51]: Well, last question, you kinda headed toward my last question. [2:34:51, 2:35:07]: Uh when you talk about liabilities, uh and I don't know how that how that works, Mr. Knight, is that liability on how how do you sp split the liability or or we solely uh um have the liability for the amphitheater or there's a management company? [2:35:08, 2:35:10]: Have any pull on liability for the amphitheater? [2:35:11, 2:35:16]: I'm just trying to figure out is is the sole liability on anything with the amphitheater on the city? [2:35:17, 2:35:21]: Or is there any shared uh liability with the uh management company? [2:35:22, 2:35:25]: Because of uh he just talked about power techniques. [2:35:25, 2:35:28]: If you got power techniques out there and something happens. [2:35:28, 2:35:34]: Is the l is the liability on anything that's going on, is that on the city or is that a shared liability with the management county? [2:35:36, 2:35:42]: I probably defer to the to the attorneys with that, but um it's our venue, it's our facility. [2:35:43, 2:35:50]: Um and so with that then comes the the responsibility of the liability that comes with the facility. [2:35:50, 2:35:53]: Which we have already activated, of course. [2:35:53, 2:35:55]: uh for the facility going forward. [2:35:55, 2:36:00]: Well if I hire a corner for my house, he better he better have insurance if he mess something up. [2:36:00, 2:36:06]: So it is my house, but uh his liabilities on the work that he's doing. So that's that's why I asked that question. [2:36:08, 2:36:15]: And uh Councilmember Blount, this is Jeremy. I I think it's gonna depend on the situation, but as Mr. Knighton said, it's it's the city's. [2:36:15, 2:36:16]: uh facility. [2:36:17, 2:36:18]: Um [2:36:18, 2:36:21]: And the the contractor's working for the city, but [2:36:22, 2:36:26]: Your point is is well taken. We'll make sure there's sufficient insurance as well. [2:36:29, 2:36:33]: And any in any time there's a artist that requires something, um [2:36:34, 2:36:36]: Of that magnitude, it would certainly be [2:36:37, 2:36:57]: um discussed up front, you know, of some um like we uh we have to have a fire marshal on the premises, which you know, there there's certain things that have to be in place. You you can't just say, hey, we're gonna we're gonna start popping fireworks on the stage. And you know, there's a lot of things that go into play b way before [2:36:57, 2:36:58]: Um [2:36:59, 2:37:15]: You see it. So the like liability uh contracts, uh uh everything's in place. Even you know, just making sure the EMT is somewhere near with the uh are the um the fire marshals right near with a uh um [2:37:16, 2:37:29]: As fire extinguisher, you know, there's a lot of things that go into place so in in shows that behind the scenes that an an average person wouldn't see that. And there's no disrespect. They just don't know that that this things are going on behind the scenes. [2:37:31, 2:37:36]: And Harold, as you well know, the city of Stockbridge does have a fire marshal that's on our staff as well. Beautiful. [2:37:36, 2:37:51]: Beautiful. We already have one employed. Uh then back to I want to ask Miss Holliday uh stand by uh Miss Barber. Miss Holliday, you told informed me not too long ago that we and Mr. Nike alluded to this as well about an insurance policy. So we already have the empathy to insured. [2:37:51, 2:37:57]: And is uh no, we don't have an insured yet? No, we do, but it's the building, the building only. [2:37:57, 2:37:58]: It is don't interpret. [2:37:58, 2:38:01]: All the buildings, all the buildings. We got several buildings. [2:38:01, 2:38:02]: That is correct. [2:38:02, 2:38:06]: And the amphitheater was added, I believe the date was June fifteenth. [2:38:07, 2:38:08]: Okay. [2:38:08, 2:38:09]: I saw. [2:38:09, 2:38:17]: Out of curiosity, you have any idea what the cost factor for that, uh what it's in insured for? You have any idea twenty million, Mr. Knighton? I believe it was twenty million. [2:38:19, 2:38:22]: You're muted, but I believe you're saying yes, twenty million. [2:38:22, 2:38:24]: Twenty yes, twenty million dollars. [2:38:25, 2:38:26]: Right. So be it. [2:38:26, 2:38:28]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:38:30, 2:38:32]: Over your radio alliance. [2:38:33, 2:38:36]: LLC. You all are a limited liability company. [2:38:37, 2:38:38]: Um [2:38:39, 2:38:41]: You don't carry any insurance? [2:38:41, 2:38:46]: Oh no, we we carry insurance. We're actually about thirty L L Cs. [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: Okay. Um [2:38:48, 2:38:49]: Just [2:38:49, 2:38:56]: for the protection of the city, I think we do need to require some level of liability insurance. Um [2:38:57, 2:39:03]: from Georgia Radio Alliance. They're the ones who are acting as an agent on behalf of the city. [2:39:04, 2:39:04]: So [2:39:05, 2:39:05]: Anything. [2:39:05, 2:39:08]: I just don't want it to fall in our lap. [2:39:09, 2:39:12]: They need to be able to assume some of the res responsibility. [2:39:13, 2:39:15]: You just mentioned about a grand piano. [2:39:16, 2:39:19]: Um if anything happens with that, whether it is [2:39:19, 2:39:22]: On premises or off-premises? [2:39:22, 2:39:24]: The city would be responsible for it. [2:39:25, 2:39:25]: Thanks for it. [2:39:26, 2:39:28]: I don't agree with that. [2:39:28, 2:39:29]: Um [2:39:30, 2:39:43]: Now I don't know if it is appropriate for me to ask that um they carry insurance. Is that a conversation, Mr. Berry or Mr. Washington, that you all have spoken with them about? [2:39:47, 2:39:50]: I mean, council member, it's something that we're [2:39:50, 2:39:53]: Well, you can look into and and figure out. I mean the the city [2:39:54, 2:40:01]: would be liable like well I I I'm not comfortable sort of discussing all this publicly'cause I don't in the unfortunate situation that something we're [2:40:02, 2:40:05]: happens in the city suit. I don't want my words coming back. [2:40:05, 2:40:07]: But the to your point [2:40:07, 2:40:11]: We need to make sure that they're properly insured and and I understand that they are. [2:40:13, 2:40:31]: And I I could I could talk a little bit, uh and Barber, that the like the production company um that we talked to and you get that to see we all we also make sure that they are heavily insured as well. So if there's any negligence uh from uh in any point, it would be covered. [2:40:32, 2:40:34]: Covered under the city's insurance. [2:40:36, 2:40:43]: No, our our subs are covered as well. Like our subcontractor for our lighting company and our production company. [2:40:43, 2:40:45]: They're covered as well under their own insurance. [2:40:46, 2:40:48]: And we'll be listed as riders and you guys can be [2:40:49, 2:40:50]: We could get that all worked out. [2:40:51, 2:40:54]: Okay, what about for the vendors? [2:40:54, 2:40:57]: Will they also be required to be insured? [2:40:58, 2:41:00]: Okay. The next. [2:41:00, 2:41:02]: Thank you. That means yeah. [2:41:03, 2:41:04]: Yes, ma'am. [2:41:05, 2:41:07]: Okay, um one other question, jobs. [2:41:08, 2:41:11]: Um, how would those jobs be advertised? [2:41:11, 2:41:12]: For [2:41:12, 2:41:17]: employment at the amphitheater and where would people go to apply for them? [2:41:19, 2:41:20]: That's a very good question. [2:41:21, 2:41:33]: And uh although we haven't addressed that in anything, we would uh uh the website for the city, our websites, uh the amphitheater website, the stations if necessary. [2:41:34, 2:41:37]: uh we do have to bring in additional [2:41:37, 2:41:43]: people to run this. Now the vendor would be responsible for their own personnel. [2:41:44, 2:41:47]: The food and beverage vendor, speaking of specifically. [2:41:47, 2:41:56]: Okay. Can we request that on the Georgia Radio Alliance Stockbridge website that you all um [2:41:57, 2:42:00]: advertise job opportunities there. [2:42:01, 2:42:02]: I don't see a problem with that. [2:42:03, 2:42:12]: Okay, awesome. Now one last question. The printout from Ticketmaster, I assume that you'll be using Ticketmaster or someone else. [2:42:12, 2:42:17]: We'll be using ticks dot com because they are about twenty percent of the cost of Ticketmaster. [2:42:17, 2:42:26]: Ticks.com. Thank you for that. Will will you all be providing the printout or is there a printout of the number of tickets sold and [2:42:27, 2:42:35]: There is a a website that anybody we authorize can go to and that you can see the amount of tickets sold basically on an hourly basis. [2:42:35, 2:42:36]: Awesome. Thank you. [2:42:39, 2:42:48]: Yeah, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Thank you. Uh Mr. McPherson, uh, is there anything you want to add uh in that conversation about insurance? [2:42:53, 2:42:53]: Well [2:42:53, 2:42:57]: I tend to agree with the basic premise of [2:42:57, 2:43:10]: your council. It's probably an issue that the particulars of it would be negotiated and discussed uh in a private setting. And then of course the ultimate agreement would be public record, as we all know. [2:43:11, 2:43:17]: Um that that is an issue that we would need to discuss because the contract does not address that issue. [2:43:18, 2:43:32]: Okay, so with that being said, uh Mr. Knight, Mr. Barron, Mr. Washington, um, could could y'all just have to get together, Mr. Murray, um, Mr. Ware, can y'all just all just get together and [2:43:32, 2:43:35]: Whatever need to be included, uh be included. [2:43:38, 2:43:39]: Yes. Yes. [2:43:39, 2:43:42]: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Thank you. [2:43:43, 2:44:03]: Stand by stand by for a second, please. I miss Barber. So on that note, I know we're supposed to potentially approve this contract tonight, but there have been a lot of different discussions in reference to some additional items or verbiage. And so I was looking forward to uh and I did not know until of course the initial meeting uh that there were some changes that you all made. [2:44:03, 2:44:13]: made early today because I was looking forward to coming in office tomorrow signing off on this. But now there's some additional things I think we have a consensus on some additional items that had to be worked out. [2:44:14, 2:44:15]: Uh so [2:44:15, 2:44:25]: Uh so the thought process, do we approve this with these potential tonight do do we approve this with these potential additions or wait till you make the additions first and then approve the document? [2:44:25, 2:44:30]: Because time's of a set essence as well. Time is more than of the essence. [2:44:31, 2:44:32]: I would encourage if we can. [2:44:33, 2:44:34]: Council is comfortable with. [2:44:35, 2:44:38]: Essentially ninety five percent of what has been discussed. [2:44:38, 2:44:40]: That we are able to approve this tonight. [2:44:41, 2:44:46]: Um if I obviously have heard the comments that were raised with with respect to [2:44:46, 2:44:50]: think the one item with respect to exclusive, I mean that's something that [2:44:50, 2:44:54]: You know, it's just a a matter of language change but the attorneys might be able to do right here now. [2:44:55, 2:44:59]: But the other one with respect to liability insuring attorneys wanted to make sure that was a [2:45:00, 2:45:01]: Offline discussion, so to speak. [2:45:02, 2:45:07]: But um if we can, uh would encourage approving tonight if possible. [2:45:08, 2:45:12]: All right. Thank you I needed to ask that question so everybody can hear it. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:45:12, 2:45:20]: I wanted to make the motion to approve this item with all of the conditions that we've discussed. [2:45:20, 2:45:37]: All right. I need to state each of those conditions. I would think that uh I would hope that the clerk has those identified already. Plus you have the attorneys from both sides here available that listen to those things. So I would hope that they're already captured. I would assume that. [2:45:37, 2:45:43]: Mayor, I will note the ones that I have and and they can correct me if there's something that needed to be added. [2:45:43, 2:45:44]: Okay. [2:45:44, 2:45:49]: Okay, what I have is there was a modified contract that has been submitted. [2:45:49, 2:45:55]: Whereas the city of Stockbridge will have final approval on the name and right sponsor. [2:45:56, 2:45:59]: I also have there was a modif the contract was modified. [2:46:00, 2:46:07]: With ten percent of the gross sales of food, beverage, and alcohol, City of Stockbridge will receive eighty-five percent. [2:46:08, 2:46:13]: And Georgia Alliance will receive fifteen percent, same as ticket sales. [2:46:14, 2:46:18]: And then the other item of course is to negotiate um [2:46:19, 2:46:22]: the liability insurance. [2:46:23, 2:46:24]: Okay. Coverage. [2:46:25, 2:46:27]: Okay, attorneys, does that sound right? [2:46:28, 2:46:30]: That uh we got discovered. [2:46:31, 2:46:31]: Council? [2:46:32, 2:46:35]: I believe so. And and the issue of the word uh [2:46:35, 2:46:37]: Exclusive. Exclusive. [2:46:37, 2:46:40]: Right, so the city can use correct. That was [2:46:41, 2:46:43]: Yeah, correct. That was uh [2:46:43, 2:46:47]: really four things when you count exclusive, but the other three were correctly stated. [2:46:50, 2:46:54]: I want to also make sure that um the job advertisements um [2:46:55, 2:47:01]: Can we add that to the contract as well? Or is it necessary? [2:47:03, 2:47:06]: I don't know if it's really necessary to say the truth, but anyway. Agreed. [2:47:06, 2:47:07]: Okay. [2:47:07, 2:47:11]: Okay. We're gonna hire as many people as we can as quickly as we can from Stockbridge. [2:47:12, 2:47:13]: Okay. [2:47:13, 2:47:20]: Okay, so the for as far as exclusive, it is the revised the clause that includes the exclusive. [2:47:22, 2:47:24]: um use of the facility, correct? [2:47:25, 2:47:45]: I think what the intent is that that when the we're not when there's not a concert, the city has a can utilize the facility since it belongs to the city stop rage for other city type events, or even if we get to the point where we rent the the certain parts of the ampathy through other organizations, fraternity sororities, nonprofits, schools, things of that nature. We wanna be able to do that when it's not a specific [2:47:45, 2:47:46]: constant going on. [2:47:46, 2:47:53]: Are you able to point out what page number that might be on the contract or what paragraph where we are on that contract? [2:47:53, 2:47:54]: So that can [2:47:55, 2:47:56]: I don't know off the top of my head, I really don't. [2:47:57, 2:48:00]: I'm hoping one of maybe Mr. Murray, Mr. Pearson may have it. [2:48:02, 2:48:17]: Yeah, I would suggest it's on the first page. It's the first page of the contract. Uh the language limiting the exclusive controls really found in paragraph number one under venue management on the first page. [2:48:18, 2:48:28]: That's following bold type that does mention exclusive control. And that would be the area where we could qualify that language to uh satisfy the valid concerns that's been raised tonight. [2:48:29, 2:48:30]: All right, thank you. [2:48:32, 2:48:51]: Ms. Barber, you made uh we went through that, you made the initial uh or the motion. Uh we just discussed uh all the uh revisions. Everybody heard that we have our attorneys and we actively involved in doing this, and I did not hear thus far a second to this motion. Second. Okay, just second that. [2:48:51, 2:48:56]: I would imagine we have plenty of discussion. I don't think there's any more discussion. Okay, so on that note. [2:48:57, 2:48:59]: All in favor of the emotion, please indicate. [2:49:01, 2:49:21]: Okay, so Unanimous is an outstanding. Congratulations, gentlemen. We appreciate this. And we'll have a great, wonderful, professional, lucrative contract and and business alignment here. Look forward to an outstanding council season in this year as well as outcoming years. And and thank you, council, for you reading the contract and come up with all these ideas. [2:49:21, 2:49:23]: and thoughts if we're gonna tweak everything and get it all straight. [2:49:24, 2:49:31]: Fantastic. I'm I'm very excited. I'm pretty sure I'm not showing it real line. I'm jumping for joy, like jumping up and down, turning flips here, but I think this is a great thing. [2:49:32, 2:49:45]: And appreciate that the citizens in our area are going to definitely enjoy this. Mr. Thomas, you have your hand up, please. All I want to say is uh Georgia Alliance, welcome to the great city of Stockbridge. There you go. On behalf of the [2:49:46, 2:49:55]: Georgia Radio Alliance of Stockbridge, we're so proud to be aboard and we will get to work immediately and make the council and the mayor proud. [2:49:55, 2:50:05]: All right. Good deal. Uh Mayor Potem, go ahead. You have a comment, sir. Yeah, I just want to say to them welcome as well. And I want them to go ahead and nail down what we need to [2:50:05, 2:50:06]: Do to move forward. [2:50:06, 2:50:08]: To make sure that [2:50:08, 2:50:15]: Uh whatever we do going forward is a night to remember that no one ever forgets. That's our goal. Set it high. [2:50:16, 2:50:22]: Yes, sir. Right. And with that I I assume that I have the authority as city manager to move that forward. [2:50:23, 2:50:29]: Uh uh well I'll say so, sir. Yes, sir. [2:50:29, 2:50:32]: So are you gonna make the announcement then of uh [2:50:33, 2:50:42]: Have we come to a consensus? Yes, I have. Have we l I think we did? Vote on that, please. Yes. [2:50:42, 2:51:01]: I'll make I I'll make the motion, Mayor. Let me make the motion. I'll make the motion. Can I make the motion? Well stand by stand by. Wait a minute. Ms. Knight, go ahead, please. I just want to make sure that we are comfortable to the Georgia Radio Alliance. We are absolutely comfortable. [2:51:02, 2:51:09]: Um with uh who we have lined up for the first major act potentially. Obviously that was contingent upon. [2:51:10, 2:51:13]: This and then uh obviously we have to sign contracts and so forth. [2:51:14, 2:51:14]: Right. [2:51:14, 2:51:28]: I I'm I'm I'm of the cautious nature. I don't want to make any announcements. No, no, no, no. I have the con I have my email I can forward to you right this moment if you want to look at it of confirmation of what we talked about. [2:51:29, 2:51:31]: We would be looking at a Thursday announcement, Herald. [2:51:32, 2:51:36]: Um we can yeah, I mean as soon as uh yes. [2:51:36, 2:51:38]: Let's do that. That that sounds good. [2:51:39, 2:51:55]: He just wanna announce that's a different than than with the question that you asked because he just wanna announce it on the radio, not for I no I's dotted, T's crossed, production done. Okay. Mr. Blount, I'm not gonna saw Mr. Blount first. Go ahead, sir. [2:51:55, 2:52:08]: Yeah, yeah, I was um I mean I think we all are excited. We all are but but I I I think that the order should be to go ahead and finish this contract uh situation and have everything uh you know. [2:52:10, 2:52:23]: uh i's dotted and t's crossed before we make announcement. We need to make I I just think as a city we just need to make sure everything's in order and uh contractually and and everything's signed on the dotted line and then we go ahead and move forward. [2:52:23, 2:52:25]: Good deal. Mr. Thomas Greg, please. [2:52:25, 2:52:27]: Um I I I just want to sort of [2:52:28, 2:52:31]: I noticed in the agreement uh it talks about [2:52:32, 2:52:32]: Um [2:52:33, 2:52:34]: To [2:52:34, 2:52:35]: Le [2:52:36, 2:52:37]: Promotions [2:52:37, 2:52:39]: Per con sorry. [2:52:40, 2:52:41]: Uh did I read that correctly? [2:52:42, 2:52:43]: Live promotions. [2:52:44, 2:52:51]: I believe I believe you did with respect to on site. I believe that's on site on site uh radio. Yes. [2:52:51, 2:52:52]: Yes. [2:52:52, 2:52:55]: And those would be sponsor related promotions. [2:52:56, 2:53:02]: So I just wanted to emphasize that and sort of get with Mr. Knight and give us a schedule so we can sort of [2:53:02, 2:53:04]: Boost us up, you know, um [2:53:04, 2:53:08]: The twenty fifth was just right around the corner. And if we if we're talking about doing two [2:53:09, 2:53:09]: So [2:53:10, 2:53:12]: Uh I just wanted to throw that in. [2:53:12, 2:53:14]: All right, Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:53:15, 2:53:19]: I I I'll get to you, Ms. Gantt, Ms. Barber. Are we going to vote? [2:53:20, 2:53:35]: on the um artists not not not i will say no i will say not right now not not publicly to do that okay thank you miss Gantt go ahead please i was gonna ask i was hoping we didn't have to vote on the artist i was hoping that we could do [2:53:36, 2:53:41]: maybe have our PIO officer, Miss Thornton, put a [2:53:41, 2:53:49]: highlighted video together and we tell the citizens what they were gonna blast it and we do something as a council together making that announcement. [2:53:51, 2:53:55]: Sounds like a great idea as well. Sure. Once we get everything all signed and ready to go, right? [2:53:55, 2:54:00]: All right. There we go. There we go. I think that would be I think it would be appropriate. [2:54:00, 2:54:03]: Okay, go ahead, please. I just want to make sure [2:54:04, 2:54:08]: minutes count because we certainly don't want to lose any of these folks. [2:54:09, 2:54:13]: So we we're talking about this, that, and the other. When is it gonna be ready tomorrow? [2:54:16, 2:54:17]: What's related to [2:54:18, 2:54:26]: Well, let me tell you this. As soon as it's ready to let me know, I'll come to City Hall and I'll sign it. But but the end is the artist might get away within w uh by tomorrow. Okay. Okay. [2:54:28, 2:54:36]: Correct. Uh m uh Ms. Alexander, I think he said that as far as the artists and everything, everything's already been signed in place with that. [2:54:36, 2:54:46]: I think I think we're talking about s almost somatics at this point. I think everything's a go, from what I'm hearing um Mr. Young kind of alluded to. Am I correct, Mr. Young? [2:54:47, 2:55:01]: ready to go and I can't say the artist until y'all ready to announce it, but um they I mean they're text I mean honestly and I'm not being disrespectful, they're texting me right now and say what's going on at the city council meeting. I mean honestly I'm getting they they want to know [2:55:02, 2:55:13]: Tell them we're good. We're good. So everything, so everything, what I'm saying is everything sound like it's a go. It's just a somatics to what we have to do with this, uh with the pay. I mean, if you do it tomorrow, tomorrow we're good to go, right? [2:55:14, 2:55:16]: Send you out. [2:55:16, 2:55:19]: [10519.7, 10522.0]: We can lock that part in as early as [2:55:22, 2:55:22]: Tonight. [2:55:23, 2:55:26]: So as soon as we get the the deposit, that can be locked in immediately. [2:55:27, 2:55:41]: That's why I was talking about giving me the authority to go ahead and make this happen. That's what I mean. Yes. Yes, sir, absolutely. Make it happen. Do that. All right. We'll do. Sure. But we'll make a formal announcement when we sign all the documents, right? Right, right. Yes. [2:55:42, 2:55:55]: I'm sending you the information right now, um, Mr. Randy. Um Mr. Knighton's right right now. So you'll have it in a few minutes. Mr. Knight, you have all of uh our banking information and serve as the city treasurer. [2:55:56, 2:56:00]: Okay. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. Just in closing, Mr. Murray. [2:56:01, 2:56:02]: The arrow. [2:56:03, 2:56:03]: Mark. [2:56:04, 2:56:08]: Early Friday, twenty twenty two. Make it happen. [2:56:09, 2:56:16]: And and before we mr mr randy, was you able to produce what I sent you? Um [2:56:16, 2:56:24]: As far as the production I had we had produced, uh that little sizzle video right, I'll I'll forward that to the council here shortly. Yes. [2:56:24, 2:56:30]: That's a dragon. Thank you. Thank you all. All right. Appreciate it. Elements. [2:56:31, 2:56:40]: All right, uh so we voted on that. Okay, council consideration to approve COVID nineteen state of emergency for the city of Stockbridge. Mr. Washington, please. [2:56:40, 2:56:47]: Yeah and let me just say I know there's some confusion surrounding this. The issue is this and this is for council to decide. [2:56:48, 2:56:52]: We're not currently traveling under an emergency resolution based on what was passed. [2:56:52, 2:57:05]: And so we can either pass one of our own or we can adopt the one from Henry County, but we need to have a discussion about it because per open records meetings, et cetera, we have to clearly decide that there's an emergency that we're operating under to continue to meet virtually. [2:57:06, 2:57:09]: And then you all can give us instruction as to how. [2:57:10, 2:57:11]: Want that to look for the [2:57:13, 2:57:13]: Okay. [2:57:15, 2:57:23]: All right. But the the document that uh that's before us is in line with the county state of emergency, is my understanding, the way I kind of read it. [2:57:24, 2:57:25]: Yes, but I know there was a [2:57:27, 2:57:29]: There was some discussion about [2:57:29, 2:57:32]: the buildings and and all that stuff with the city of Stockbridge. [2:57:33, 2:57:35]: And so that's for you all to decide. [2:57:36, 2:57:40]: But as mayor, you can declare an emergency council has to adopt it. [2:57:41, 2:57:42]: And so [2:57:42, 2:57:46]: the emergency resolution that we were under has expired and didn't have terms on it. [2:57:47, 2:57:53]: And so if you all want to one change the terms of what the emergency looks like, you can. [2:57:54, 2:57:55]: Or if you want to adopt. [2:57:55, 2:58:03]: Henry counties, but whatever the directions that you want for the citizens of Stockbridge to follow under this emergency, we just need to be clear on that for you all. [2:58:04, 2:58:19]: Okay. Well I know when we did this before, uh when I did it before I I knew I had the understanding that I can do this without the council's consideration, but I wanted to make sure the council was in uh was in in in sync. And so I mean I I personally think the [2:58:19, 2:58:20]: What it where it reads now. [2:58:21, 2:58:34]: it's in line with the with the state of emergency for the the county. I accept that unless there's if there's other considerations that the co that this uh council wants to make and and tweak it a little better, so be it. I mean we have the discussion as you indicated, but uh [2:58:34, 2:58:38]: I'm good. I'm personally good the way it is now, to tell you the truth, but [2:58:38, 2:58:39]: Uh [2:58:39, 2:58:44]: But obviously the council appreciates your comments and thoughts on what what how you feel this should go. [2:58:46, 2:58:46]: Right. [2:58:47, 2:58:47]: But [2:58:48, 2:58:51]: Well, so that we are aligned with c um [2:58:51, 2:58:58]: The county, I would just assume I would prefer that we adopt what the county has approved. [2:58:58, 2:58:58]: Right. [2:59:02, 2:59:03]: Yeah, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:59:06, 2:59:09]: I mean if we adopt what the county has or we don't. [2:59:10, 2:59:17]: I mean, w w well what's I'm just trying to figure out, you know, what you know, then what? You know, I'm saying we adopt it. [2:59:17, 2:59:20]: Then we're just in line with the what the county's saying. But if we don't [2:59:21, 2:59:21]: Then what? [2:59:22, 2:59:23]: We have to come over at all. [2:59:24, 2:59:44]: We should come up with our own. I mean, in this aspect. I mean it it can be done. I think but but if we come with our own, it doesn't control what happens in the schools and it doesn't control any enforcement that that the state is saying we we can't enforce. So what's the big deal? I'm I'm I'm in agreement with uh councilwoman barber just adopting one of our chairs and [2:59:44, 2:59:44]: Mm. [2:59:45, 2:59:47]: There's a little bit of a difference there that I think. [2:59:48, 2:59:49]: Clarification sake. [2:59:50, 2:59:55]: The governor gave back his emergency powers authorization. [2:59:55, 2:59:57]: Which is why there's not been which is not. [2:59:58, 3:00:00]: Which was given to him by the legislature. [3:00:01, 3:00:05]: And unless he has emergency authority and jurisdiction. [3:00:05, 3:00:06]: Then [3:00:06, 3:00:08]: Or control supersedes. [3:00:09, 3:00:11]: Well let me ask you this, Ms. Washington. [3:00:12, 3:00:15]: If we adopt our own, if we then if we're able to include [3:00:16, 3:00:36]: Putting a memoriatorium on evictions and we're able to include whatever monies that we've gotten from federal funding for such situations to help out with rent, rent and all of these things that we can do. Then I say we, hey, let's adopt our own and let's let's let's let's make provision for the citizens of the stop bridge and let's let's let's let's help let's help. [3:00:36, 3:00:56]: Help the citizens establish. But if we're not able to make those provisions, what's the point? But if we're able to make those provisions, I'm able to say, hey, let's adopt our own and let's put them in there and let's find out what monies we do have that we can uh help the citizens out. Let's find out what moratoriums we can put in place to keep citizens off the street. Let's let's do that then. Let's adopt. [3:00:56, 3:01:07]: our own and and and sit back and see how we can help our citizens with the numbers that are going up and then let's not let's not follow the lead of the county. I'm for that if that's the way that's the route this this council wants to go. [3:01:09, 3:01:09]: Mm-hmm. [3:01:10, 3:01:13]: Okay. Mayor Protein, go ahead, please. [3:01:13, 3:01:19]: I think in the end it really comes down to being very, very simple. If we want this to have any weight. [3:01:20, 3:01:22]: Вен видово поліс форс. [3:01:23, 3:01:25]: And it we need to make sure that we're [3:01:25, 3:01:26]: Uh inline. [3:01:27, 3:01:32]: uh with the county in some instances if we want to go up or if we want to go to [3:01:32, 3:01:33]: uh beyond [3:01:34, 3:01:38]: uh what they're doing uh as the things that councilman Blount mentioned. [3:01:38, 3:01:43]: But in terms of um you know, if we wanted to let's say we wanted to [3:01:44, 3:02:04]: mandate masks okay in city facilities. It's like like for the amphitheater. It's an outside venue. You know the CDC's been very clear that outside venues with masks are safe, are pretty safe. So obviously we'll monitor things as they go along, but in the end I certainly uh we'll want every [3:02:04, 3:02:06]: Everybody in that facility to have on a mask. [3:02:07, 3:02:10]: uh for safety uh in the times that we're dealing with right now. [3:02:10, 3:02:11]: So [3:02:11, 3:02:13]: No, we certainly would be able to add [3:02:13, 3:02:18]: us be able to take what Henry County already has and then to be able to [3:02:18, 3:02:30]: uh add the additional language uh mandating the mask uh for the outside venues. Cause, you know, honestly, uh as we're doing what we're doing, I've been doing a food drive myself now for [3:02:30, 3:02:33]: Over uh you know seventy five weeks. [3:02:33, 3:02:37]: And we wear masks outside. I feel relatively safe. [3:02:37, 3:02:42]: and I knock on wood that things have been okay. So we just wanna look and [3:02:42, 3:02:49]: uh proceed uh in that ma in that manner. But again, let's let the attorneys talk about [3:02:49, 3:03:00]: uh this particular ordinance. Do we even have a copy that we can put up for the citizens and talk about what does the emergency actually do so they will actually know that. [3:03:02, 3:03:03]: Can I answer your question? That's a good question. [3:03:04, 3:03:05]: The first thing is that [3:03:06, 3:03:14]: It allows for the city to continue, it allows for you all as council and other organizations to still continue to meet remotely. [3:03:14, 3:03:18]: Mm-hmm. Because we are operat because we're operating under a pandemic. [3:03:19, 3:03:26]: When the state issued the emergency when the state and the governor had emergency authority. [3:03:26, 3:03:28]: That's what many that's what allowed many people [3:03:29, 3:03:30]: Close down because of the fact that [3:03:31, 3:03:32]: He had that authority. [3:03:32, 3:03:34]: The legislature gave that to him. [3:03:35, 3:03:42]: He has now sent that authority back and is not using it anymore. It's expired. And so that's why. [3:03:43, 3:03:46]: When Savannah issued his mask mandate and Atlanta issued its mask mandate. [3:03:47, 3:03:53]: the local authority supersedes everything now until um until and unless the governor accepts emergency authority again. [3:03:54, 3:03:57]: Which is signalizing the day of his press conference that he's not seeking to do that. [3:03:58, 3:04:02]: And so basically what you all would decide in a as a county and a city. [3:04:02, 3:04:04]: Would not have interruption from the state. [3:04:05, 3:04:07]: Unless the state decided to [3:04:08, 3:04:13]: Unless the legislature convened and gave the governor back those that gave the governor back that executive authority. [3:04:14, 3:04:15]: It helps Christ. [3:04:16, 3:04:21]: Well what certain certainly I think that what we want to do is [3:04:21, 3:04:22]: The chairwoman's been buried. [3:04:24, 3:04:30]: Assertive and she's uh asked, I think Mayor, she did ask you to have the council look at this. Is that correct? [3:04:31, 3:04:32]: Well yeah, that you did. [3:04:33, 3:04:53]: Yes, you did in this aspect. But the one of the things that I that I think that we should do is is um is is that we had a good relationship or we have a good relationship, I think, with our business and we set up a uh uh actual um alliance or partnership with our businesses, whereas that they would um somehow when when people come to their business, they would ask that folks where to [3:04:53, 3:04:56]: the mass wanna come inside their businesses to do to do business with them. [3:04:57, 3:05:03]: And and of course that hopefully those folks will comply. And if folks did not comply, then they didn't have to allow them in their business to uh [3:05:04, 3:05:08]: to uh do conduct business with them unless they wore a mask and were safe in this aspect. [3:05:08, 3:05:28]: And so as long as folks are the business owners or are following the C D C guidance and and the people that are coming in are doing that, fine. If they're not and they and uh then they maybe should not allow them in there. That's the way we things were going before the past, in a sense. I mean, I I think a a uh mandating uh mass a mass mandate for everything that we do. [3:05:28, 3:05:38]: It'd be great if we can once again if we can properly enforce it. That's my only my concern. How do you properly enforce it? And if we do that, is that going to be uh countywide? Because even in a state of emergency. [3:05:38, 3:05:57]: for the county it doesn't dictate, doesn't say anything about a mass mandate that I that I saw or uh authorizing a mass mandate or a direct and say we're going to have an enforcement of this. So I think if we continue on with our social media uh campaign, inform folks and work with our businesses and and and to ensure that they have [3:05:57, 3:06:04]: um the proper type of support from in a sense from us in reference to trying to help them [3:06:04, 3:06:05]: You know. [3:06:05, 3:06:09]: ensure that people wear masks when they come into business and if they don't then they'll have to let [3:06:09, 3:06:19]: Yeah, that the police know, I suppose. And just asked. And I can share the screen if if the mayor wants me to. I can I can share the screen to show the two. I got a follow up I got a follow up to that. [3:06:19, 3:06:22]: In terms of in terms of what we're doing, okay. [3:06:22, 3:06:25]: Mayor, you're the chair of the [3:06:25, 3:06:36]: uh health board locally. Is that correct? Yeah I am and I'm gonna read some stuff. I'm gonna read some stuff tonight before you you you're on the call that I was on. All the mayor pro teams were on that call. [3:06:36, 3:06:39]: Pete Month Henry is on diversion right now. [3:06:39, 3:06:41]: So if one of us got covet. [3:06:41, 3:06:43]: They'd have to send us somewhere else. [3:06:43, 3:06:55]: to Macon or somewhere else. Piedmont Fayetteville has a hundred and ten COVID patients. Right. They're on diversion. So all of the hospitals are around us. [3:06:55, 3:07:15]: That's the state of emergency right now. Okay, it's the state of emergency right now. Now, there is something that we could do. Okay, we could stand behind the businesses, mandate the mask, have code enforcement enforce it only on the inside of the building. On the other side, we could take the lead and [3:07:15, 3:07:16]: Henry County and say [3:07:17, 3:07:19]: We're gonna pass the Henry County Ordinance. [3:07:19, 3:07:21]: And say if and when [3:07:22, 3:07:25]: Henry County passes a mass mandate. [3:07:25, 3:07:28]: We're authorized to do so as well. [3:07:28, 3:07:43]: That's going just a step further. It's not going all the way out there, but it's indicating to Henry County. Well, as soon as they pass that mass mandate, we're right there with them. We'll we'll we we have it automatically triggered. If they pass a mass mandate. [3:07:44, 3:07:48]: Our mass mandate goes into force at that particular point. [3:07:48, 3:08:00]: That but because that's what they're working on. At the last meeting we were at, the chair had said that she was talking to the other entities uh to be able to understand how the enforcement [3:08:00, 3:08:03]: uh would move along and where we'll go along. [3:08:03, 3:08:05]: And I understand, Mayor, your concerns. [3:08:05, 3:08:08]: But in the end, if we work with Henry County. [3:08:08, 3:08:10]: And again, we can't afford we we don't [3:08:10, 3:08:14]: We w we want the police to be involved if they do have to call the police. [3:08:15, 3:08:15]: Okay. [3:08:16, 3:08:20]: But at the same time, what we want to be able to do is indicate to Henry County. [3:08:20, 3:08:40]: We're taking the lead here. When you pass a mass mandate, the city of Stockbridge will have one too. I like their mass, I like their state of emergency. In order for us to continue authorizing these meetings virtually, we need to pass a state of emergency. We don't have time to rewrite one. But I agree with Mr. Blount. We can circle. [3:08:40, 3:08:41]: Circle bet. [3:08:41, 3:08:45]: And have another ordinance, a separate ordinance for [3:08:45, 3:08:47]: uh eviction prevention. [3:08:47, 3:08:51]: And those types of things to be able to support the community. We don't have to do it all [3:08:51, 3:09:00]: Tonight we could circle back and bring that back at the next in the next iteration. But I certainly want to move forward with the Henry County. [3:09:00, 3:09:03]: uh ordinance and I would go a step further as I said. [3:09:03, 3:09:05]: Uh putting in a trigger to say [3:09:06, 3:09:14]: If and when Henry County passes a mass mandate, the city of Stockbridge will the City of Stockbridge's mass mandate will be triggered. [3:09:16, 3:09:18]: Okay, Mr. Blount, quite please. [3:09:19, 3:09:31]: Uh I guess not to prolong it. Uh I I agree with that because that gives us enforcement. It keeps us in line with enforcement. Um, but I also would like what was just stated that we do. [3:09:31, 3:09:49]: uh come back and look at what can we can address for the community and for our citizens when it comes to any type of aid right now. With these numbers are going up and uh a lot of the students going back home. A lot of people are getting sick and not going to work. A lot of and and uh one uh the the elephant in the room [3:09:50, 3:09:55]: When it comes to the hospitals, there's a lot of citizens are having postponed surgeries. [3:09:55, 3:10:02]: that need surgery. So their prolonged times at home and recovery times are extended out and they're still off from work. [3:10:03, 3:10:16]: And so we we have we definitely want to we definitely want to address those issues. So if we could come back as soon as we can address those issues, but I'm in agreement with us uh being in line with the county and if they implement a uh mass uh [3:10:17, 3:10:24]: Um uh if they implement a mass uh uh uh anything betraying the mass we we in line with them. So I I think that we should move forward with that. [3:10:25, 3:10:26]: All right. [3:10:26, 3:10:27]: Uh Mayor Protein. [3:10:28, 3:10:31]: Yeah, okay. Thank you, Mr. Blount, for those uh comments. [3:10:31, 3:10:35]: So let's go ahead and do that. Let's move forward with uh the Henry County. [3:10:36, 3:10:40]: uh emergency state of emergency adopted here in the stock bridge. [3:10:40, 3:10:43]: Uh, with the language that as soon as Henry County adopts [3:10:44, 3:10:45]: A mass mandate. [3:10:46, 3:10:48]: Uh with enforcement measures, the city of Stockbridge. [3:10:49, 3:10:51]: Uh, mass mandate will kick in as well. [3:10:52, 3:10:52]: Second. [3:10:53, 3:10:54]: All right, any further discussion? [3:10:56, 3:11:16]: Okay, all in favor of that uh proposal, uh say aye or say indicate. Okay, unanimous decision. All right. So that means uh there's a little bit of change uh that you have to make there, Mr. Washington, in reference to to that. And then uh and actually what this is now, what was before us was actually a resolution, not an ordinance, sir. [3:11:16, 3:11:36]: Before us was the resolution. Uh, so once you make those changes, I'll sign off on that. But a lot of things that you are talking about or mentioning, I have in my comments for this evening because I was part of the meeting this morning earlier today, and I want to read that data and information. So understand your concerns wholeheartedly. Okay, on that note, we're gonna go to [3:11:36, 3:11:43]: discussion and uh council update uh police chief department uh mr knight please [3:11:46, 3:11:50]: Yes, Mayor and Council. This is brief update on the [3:11:50, 3:11:52]: A recruitment of police chief. [3:11:52, 3:11:56]: Obviously I don't want to go into too much details because you have certain candidates who [3:11:56, 3:11:59]: are members of other organizations at the moment. [3:11:59, 3:12:01]: Um just a recap. [3:12:01, 3:12:06]: Um uh late last year we had a virtual town hall where we talked about [3:12:06, 3:12:09]: Prospect of a police department here in the city of Stockbridge. [3:12:10, 3:12:11]: We've talked to several people. [3:12:12, 3:12:15]: Including the chief of Dunwoody, who started a police department from scratch. [3:12:16, 3:12:17]: Um I in turn [3:12:17, 3:12:20]: I've talked to several other individuals as well. [3:12:20, 3:12:22]: In addition to that, of course, we've had [3:12:22, 3:12:23]: A [3:12:24, 3:12:29]: uh study done by the University of Georgia Carl Vinson Institute on the feasibility [3:12:29, 3:12:31]: Of a police department as well. [3:12:31, 3:12:33]: Uh as an addendum to that. [3:12:33, 3:12:35]: Um last year. [3:12:35, 3:12:39]: Обвісний рон forward toward hiring a police chief. [3:12:39, 3:12:45]: Uh, for the sole purpose of leading a police organization for the city of Stockbridge. [3:12:45, 3:12:50]: uh that police chief then, presumably as we've seen in other or as other examples. [3:12:51, 3:12:54]: would hire a command staff who would be charged then of h of [3:12:54, 3:12:55]: Um [3:12:55, 3:12:58]: acquiring vehicles, setting personnel policies. [3:12:59, 3:13:00]: Hiring staff. [3:13:00, 3:13:05]: um police cars, equipment, et cetera, moving toward uh the start of a police department. [3:13:06, 3:13:10]: As a part of this процес, uh, because of the sensitive nature. [3:13:10, 3:13:20]: Of a police chief and starting this uh fresh and anew for the city of Stockbridge, we did uh engage with the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police. [3:13:20, 3:13:25]: Who took several candidates through an extensive process of both oral and written examination? [3:13:26, 3:13:28]: Uh as well as [3:13:28, 3:13:31]: Other review and vetting. They paired that list down. [3:13:32, 3:13:36]: Um I am interviewing uh three uh candidates uh this week. [3:13:37, 3:13:42]: Um who were raided by uh the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police. [3:13:42, 3:13:48]: Um and we'll go through that process and make a recommendation. I expect to rec make a recommendation to you. [3:13:48, 3:13:50]: Or a uh [3:13:50, 3:13:51]: For your consideration. [3:13:52, 3:13:53]: Um at our next meeting. [3:13:53, 3:13:55]: Which will be on the thirty first, I believe. [3:13:58, 3:14:10]: All right, any further questions that uh for Mr. Night we can talk about tonight uh or can answer any further questions about this? If n uh any you know, because information. Yes, Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:14:10, 3:14:16]: Can you speak to what the transition will be like once we establish? [3:14:17, 3:14:18]: This police department. [3:14:18, 3:14:23]: because I've had questions um from citizens wanted to know what that will look like. [3:14:24, 3:14:25]: Wanna make sure that they understand. [3:14:26, 3:14:32]: that come January first, we're not gonna just end our contract with Heron County PD. [3:14:32, 3:14:37]: Can you just explain us what you envisioned that transition would look like? [3:14:37, 3:14:41]: Sure. There would be a number of things obviously that have to be in place with respect to [3:14:42, 3:14:45]: Current arrangements that we have with Henry County um police department. [3:14:46, 3:14:51]: Um uh obviously Henry County serves law enforcement throughout the city of Stockbridge, and there's an agreement. [3:14:52, 3:14:54]: With respect to that, those agreements have to be [3:14:54, 3:15:04]: essentially unhinged um and with the advent of a stockbridge police department and those conversations specific have to be had with Henry County about transition. Number one [3:15:05, 3:15:09]: About when law enforcement service would start, of course, with our police chief. [3:15:09, 3:15:13]: Um he would uh obviously be a a part of [3:15:13, 3:15:18]: the decision making process of realistic expectations for implementation [3:15:18, 3:15:27]: That's number one, number two, facilities. The North Henry Precinct, of course, is owned by the City of Stockbridge, but is currently occupied by Henry County. [3:15:27, 3:15:28]: A police that would be [3:15:29, 3:15:32]: uh the location uh for the stock ridge police department [3:15:32, 3:15:36]: Um and then of course um [3:15:36, 3:15:45]: As I mentioned earlier, all of the ingredients would need to be put in place with respect to acquisition of equipment, setting personnel policies, and hiring. [3:15:45, 3:15:46]: A police staff. [3:15:47, 3:15:55]: And uh with respect to some upcoming conversations, I'm sure that we will have at the retreat, the determination about the council of how you want to. [3:15:56, 3:15:58]: How you may want to transition [3:15:58, 3:16:01]: Бієн парт у бієн whole. [3:16:01, 3:16:05]: uh of the establishment or the implementation of a police department. [3:16:05, 3:16:09]: Um would also be a part of the uh conversation. [3:16:09, 3:16:12]: And dictate how all of that would take place. [3:16:12, 3:16:14]: However, I will emphasize again [3:16:15, 3:16:17]: that the process is moving forward. [3:16:17, 3:16:23]: Given the the importance and significance of this position and policing as we see it today. [3:16:24, 3:16:25]: We took some uh [3:16:26, 3:16:31]: uh strong steps, extraordinary steps to make sure we had law enforcement professionals. [3:16:31, 3:16:34]: Review thirty two plus candidates. [3:16:35, 3:16:37]: And whittle that down to um [3:16:37, 3:16:38]: Uh [3:16:38, 3:16:39]: Right. [3:16:40, 3:16:41]: To six uh candidates. [3:16:42, 3:16:45]: of which I'm interviewing uh three of them this week. [3:16:47, 3:16:51]: Okay, any further thank you, Mr. Knight. Any further questions for Ms. Knight? Ms. Mayor Protam, go away, please. [3:16:52, 3:17:01]: Yes, Mr. Knight and um, you know, we I I just want you to speak on so folks really understand this entire process. [3:17:01, 3:17:06]: In that the funding has already been identified to move forward with it. [3:17:07, 3:17:09]: And that we are committed. [3:17:09, 3:17:13]: uh to moving forward with the pol with the police department [3:17:14, 3:17:20]: And I wanna uh we wanna have and I want you to explain that we're gonna have the police chief [3:17:20, 3:17:21]: On board. [3:17:22, 3:17:24]: uh in short in short order [3:17:24, 3:17:26]: To go ahead and move forward. [3:17:26, 3:17:28]: And not just like [3:17:28, 3:17:29]: You you stated that [3:17:29, 3:17:33]: uh, you know, a police chief was coming for give us a timetable on [3:17:33, 3:17:35]: Kinda how the police chase. [3:17:35, 3:17:37]: Will be when the chief police chief will be on board. [3:17:38, 3:17:38]: And then [3:17:39, 3:17:42]: Uh there'll be town halls, I understand, and then [3:17:42, 3:17:45]: They'll meet with the community and bring on the command staff. [3:17:45, 3:17:46]: after that point. [3:17:47, 3:17:52]: Well, as a police chief is hired, and as I mentioned, I expect to bring you forth uh candidate or candidates for review. [3:17:53, 3:17:54]: At the next meeting. [3:17:55, 3:17:59]: Um and obviously given their current situation where they may be currently employed [3:17:59, 3:18:03]: uh we'd respect whatever transition there would need to take place, obviously. [3:18:03, 3:18:10]: Um but once the police chief uh is uh fully on board with us, their main their main and sole focus. [3:18:11, 3:18:17]: Will be to start the police department and all of that entails. Of course, the the council approved three million dollars. [3:18:18, 3:18:24]: Um to uh provide that transition in terms of equipment acquisition. [3:18:24, 3:18:33]: And so forth to ensure that that happens. And so again, their responsibility would be to uh have that uh begin that process in earnest. [3:18:33, 3:18:38]: And starting the police department. Obviously, if we hire a police chief, which again I'll emphasize [3:18:39, 3:18:44]: Is a significant position here in the city of Stockbridge for a number of reasons. [3:18:44, 3:18:48]: Um we would certainly want to introduce the police chief to the community. [3:18:49, 3:18:55]: to allow uh the police chief to engage the community, be it virtual in this format now that we're living in. [3:18:55, 3:18:59]: But also to be able to connect with the other law enforcement entities. [3:18:59, 3:19:04]: in this in Henry County as well as Henry County Sheriff's Department to develop [3:19:04, 3:19:05]: Uh, that report as well. [3:19:07, 3:19:16]: Okay, and a follow-up on that, and Councilwoman Barber asked the excellent question about the the interplay between Henry County and us. [3:19:17, 3:19:23]: Folks understand that McDonough has a police department, Hampton has a police department, locals grow. [3:19:23, 3:19:26]: So the county police does not go away. [3:19:26, 3:19:37]: They're still they were operating the area right along state highways and interchanges and stuff. So we still will have Henry County in there and they certainly will back us up. [3:19:38, 3:19:53]: Uh if that's necessary. Is that a special uh the the mode of operation that we expect them to be present in the city present to monitoring the state highways and such in the city uh uh continually as the sheriff's department as well. [3:19:53, 3:20:10]: Absolutely, yes. And of course, as you know, there is great camaraderie between law enforcement entities. With the advent of a city of Stockbridge Police Department, of course, there'll be great collaboration between Henry County Police as well as the City of Stockbridge Police. And we would hope that this would provide a higher level of service. [3:20:11, 3:20:13]: For the citizens of Stockbridge, of course. [3:20:13, 3:20:33]: Um, with the ability to develop uh some community policing methods in a contemporary fashion. It's not often cities start a police department from scratch, but we have an opportunity here uh to do some things that are beyond traditional and to be able to connect with citizens uh via uh law enforcement, obviously to provide law. [3:20:33, 3:20:45]: law enforcement and safety, that's primary, but to be able to develop relationships throughout the community that would hopefully bode well for the interplay between citizens and police officers. [3:20:45, 3:20:49]: And I think folks should understand as well, okay. [3:20:49, 3:20:54]: Is that we believe Henry County is a solid police force. [3:20:54, 3:21:14]: This is not against them. This is a growing community. And we understand that they are stretched thin because they're defending the out there of the unincorporated areas and the city. This means putting extra officers in our area to maintain the streets because. [3:21:14, 3:21:16]: But let's be honest, the response times have been [3:21:17, 3:21:24]: slower and slower because routine uh crimes, uh you know, low low priority crimes. [3:21:24, 3:21:33]: They just may not have the wherewithal apparent manpower to handle that. So in the end, once our manpower steps up. [3:21:33, 3:21:45]: And we're able to fill in those gaps. We expect this to be a preventative force where they're out and able to patrol the neighborhood and actually get to know the neighbors in the community. Is that correct? [3:21:48, 3:21:56]: Mr. Knight. Yes, yes, absolutely. And again, I think the emphasis with this is because we're starting a police department. [3:21:56, 3:22:02]: We have the ability to incorporate the traditional methods of policing that have proven to be effective. [3:22:02, 3:22:05]: Also with contemporary thoughts and ideas. [3:22:06, 3:22:08]: Of twenty first century policing, etcetera. [3:22:08, 3:22:10]: be able to incorporate that along with [3:22:11, 3:22:13]: Hearing from the community. [3:22:13, 3:22:19]: And uh working to ensure that there are proper and strong relationships with members of the community. [3:22:19, 3:22:22]: And my final comment, Mary, is that [3:22:22, 3:22:26]: Uh, I think we had had some discussions about a citizen review board. [3:22:26, 3:22:31]: As a part of this to make sure that whoever we bring on as police chief. [3:22:31, 3:22:36]: Is uh is accountable to the citizens that that person will work with. [3:22:36, 3:22:39]: The uh police chief and the citizens. [3:22:39, 3:22:43]: for the appropriate amount of policing uh in the community, but there is [3:22:44, 3:22:53]: Um, I know I certainly support it. I certainly would like the other council members to chime in to see whether or not they were supportive of a citizens review board. [3:22:53, 3:22:56]: as well. And oh and you mayor as well. [3:22:56, 3:23:16]: Right, no problem. I appreciate that. I would think that we just have to uh uh establish the what the ground rules are for that and uh what the number of people we would need for that citizens review board and then uh put out uh advertise it and then uh get qualified individuals or whatever the qualification would be in a sense and uh uh appoint those individuals to that board. [3:23:16, 3:23:18]: That's a good thing to do. [3:23:18, 3:23:20]: Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [3:23:22, 3:23:24]: Thank you, Mayor. [3:23:24, 3:23:27]: Mr. Knighton, uh, is Mr. Wiggins on the phone at this time? [3:23:28, 3:23:30]: He he is still on the phone, yes. He is here. [3:23:30, 3:23:32]: Yeah. [3:23:33, 3:23:38]: Yes, I'm here. One of the things that I think is beneficial to the city of Stockbridge. [3:23:39, 3:23:41]: is law enforcement. Law enforcement period. [3:23:42, 3:23:49]: That the needs of our citizens and safety is is is is uh is out front and and and foremost important to all of us. [3:23:49, 3:23:58]: I don't think there's a council member on here, elected official on here that uh and citizens on here that that doesn't want a safe city. [3:23:58, 3:24:03]: Um I'm for it 100%, but when I ask for an analysis, a um [3:24:04, 3:24:05]: Um [3:24:05, 3:24:11]: A financial uh I asked you for the financials, Mr. Knighton and Mr. Wiggins. [3:24:11, 3:24:16]: And we showed it from twenty nineteen all the way up through twenty twenty-four. [3:24:17, 3:24:20]: And in that analysis that you guys sent me. [3:24:20, 3:24:21]: Um [3:24:21, 3:24:25]: Show that the city's finances. [3:24:25, 3:24:27]: With almost double. [3:24:27, 3:24:29]: Бай твоні твоє фору. [3:24:30, 3:24:32]: With the implementation of a police department. [3:24:33, 3:24:37]: We I've yet unless you less someone else say I've yet to see. [3:24:38, 3:24:40]: A progressive or a [3:24:41, 3:24:43]: uh step by step formula [3:24:45, 3:24:46]: Other than [3:24:46, 3:24:48]: Us putting the cot before the horse. [3:24:49, 3:24:53]: how this gonna be funded with the other with two major capital improvement. [3:24:54, 3:24:56]: Uh st uh uh um [3:24:57, 3:24:59]: Uh entities coming on board with the Cultural Arts Center. [3:25:00, 3:25:03]: And now with the with the uh binding of the amphitheater. [3:25:04, 3:25:13]: And now we're coming now. We got$25 million bonded as it is right now. And then we're not even talking about what is needed to establish the police department. [3:25:13, 3:25:19]: I've yet to see a financial analysis or a financial step by step from the city. [3:25:19, 3:25:28]: From you or our financial. Now we've been told by a financial advisor, Mr. Knighton, as you're aware of what it would take. [3:25:29, 3:25:30]: To fund all of this. [3:25:32, 3:25:36]: We was told what it would take to find all of this, and one of the things came out of his mouth was a tax. [3:25:37, 3:25:39]: I've yet to see anything from you. [3:25:40, 3:25:43]: or John Wiggins or anything other than [3:25:43, 3:25:54]: Something that would cost the city of Stockbridge taxpayers more money to fund all of this that we're putting in place. Now, if there's a way out, I'd like other than that, I'd like to see that from you. [3:25:55, 3:26:11]: Mr. Wigg is our financial advisor, but I've yet to see that. We'll continue to come on here and say, we got the funding for this, we got the money for this. We're in good shape when it comes to money. But I'm talking about future sustainability in the city of Stockbridge. I'm vested in here, whether I'm on this council or not, I'm still a citizen. [3:26:12, 3:26:17]: And so when we can sit here and sit back and say, yeah, we in good shape now. [3:26:18, 3:26:24]: But how are we going to fund this? When we talked about it's going to take fifty-four to fifty-seven employees and you're talking about [3:26:24, 3:26:41]: you're you're you're talking about uh uh uh all of this stuff and and you and you're talking about benefits and and all of these things for these employees how are we going to find that and sustain a police department with where we're at now as a city see we can't sit out front and allow [3:26:41, 3:26:47]: allow to say that we got the money and yet still we're not telling the citizen where the money is coming from. [3:26:48, 3:26:50]: We can't continue to do that. [3:26:51, 3:26:55]: No, no, no. Let me let me answer that question because the financial forecast that we sent [3:26:55, 3:26:58]: Out and it's been two, three months ago. [3:26:58, 3:27:05]: Laid out exactly revenues and expenses in conjunction with our final advisor for the next five years. [3:27:05, 3:27:16]: Yes, it contemplated a millage rate to fund the police, and it showed if that were to happen, the city would still remain in very strong financial position. [3:27:16, 3:27:31]: That was the financial forecast. It was detailed. We took past and historic trends. We laid it out along with the financial advisor and his input. And that was provided to the entire council over two months ago. But Mr. Knight, what you just said though is key. [3:27:32, 3:27:52]: We have to let the citizens know that everything that we're doing, and you just admit, it comes with a cost to keep us in finance a good a good financial uh to keep us financially in a good place. We can't just be there without a millise rate being implemented. And one of the things I've always said, one of the greatest fights that we've had, and I thank Councilwoman Barber. [3:27:52, 3:28:00]: For her diligently in fighting to keep this city whole. One of the biggest fights that we had was to keep our city whole, but one of the greatest things in that fight was. [3:28:01, 3:28:12]: is that they were going to implement a tax. And what you're saying and what our financial advisor is saying is that we're going to have to tax the citizens of the stock bridge to do what we want to do and do what we have to do and stay financially sound. [3:28:13, 3:28:15]: Councilman Abel Abel said. [3:28:15, 3:28:17]: А восей дис. [3:28:17, 3:28:19]: From the very beginning. [3:28:19, 3:28:22]: And even the Carl Vincent Institute study. [3:28:22, 3:28:23]: Twice over. [3:28:24, 3:28:30]: is acknowledged that there would be a deficit of some sort if you implemented a police department in full. [3:28:30, 3:28:35]: I said this and addressed this at the virtual town hall meeting back in December. [3:28:35, 3:28:39]: In fact, I went over then of what one meal would cost. [3:28:39, 3:28:43]: And how that would be assessed against a two hundred thousand dollar home. I went into that level detail. [3:28:44, 3:28:46]: Fast forward, I also provide it. [3:28:47, 3:28:59]: Financial forecasting to the entire council over two months ago for the entire city's budget for the next four to five years. And I have been truthful, I've been transparent, I've told you what the study has said. [3:28:59, 3:29:15]: I have said it in a virtual town hall meeting and that's and it was stated along with the conjunction with the financial advisor in the financial forecast. Now I and I appreciate that, Ms. Knight. So what you're so I'm asking you right now, what you just said, in order for us to stay financially sound. [3:29:16, 3:29:26]: And have a police department, will we have to implement a a millist rate to the citizens? If you impose a a police department in full [3:29:28, 3:29:35]: At some point, based on the financial analysis, you would have to impose a property tax millage rate. [3:29:35, 3:29:37]: If you do it in full [3:29:38, 3:29:39]: If you do it in full [3:29:40, 3:29:42]: And you plan to have that sustained over time. [3:29:43, 3:29:58]: based on the information again from the Carl Vinson study, based on the the historic trends, based on the financial forecast, you would have to impose some sort of property tax millage. And I'm only saying this, Mr. Knighton, because I don't ever want to give a perception to the citizens. [3:29:58, 3:30:12]: that everything we need to stay financially sound with the police department is in the house. No, it has to come with a millage rate from the citizens. And a millage rate in Lehman's term is the citizen has to be taxed in order to make this happen. [3:30:13, 3:30:23]: And that's being transparent, open, and honest. But we are I agree that we need public state, but we have to let the citizens know in order to do all that we're doing. [3:30:24, 3:30:27]: In order to have all that we want the sit city stop bridge to have. [3:30:28, 3:30:38]: a tax gonna have to be implemented if they want the cities to stay financially financially sound the way we are. And that's what needs to be out to the out front to the citizens. [3:30:40, 3:30:42]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [3:30:42, 3:30:43]: Thank you, Mayor. [3:30:44, 3:30:49]: Um councilwoman Blount, thank you so much for that. I have the same concern. [3:30:49, 3:30:51]: And I've always had the same concern. [3:30:51, 3:30:53]: I think that the police department. [3:30:54, 3:30:58]: is I think not there's not one council member that wouldn't want a police department. [3:30:59, 3:31:02]: I think that the issue I have is that [3:31:02, 3:31:03]: We [3:31:04, 3:31:24]: Kind of jump the gun with going ahead and hiring this police department without hearing from our citizens and really letting them know what a millage rate means. Not a millage rate to the county, but a millage rate meaning a city property tax. Because right now we don't have one. And in order to stay financially sound, [3:31:24, 3:31:29]: We're gonna have to have one. And I don't think we've gotten enough input from our citizens on it. [3:31:30, 3:31:34]: I think that we we've spoken. I know myself and Castleman Blount. [3:31:35, 3:31:48]: have spoken on numerous occasions about our concerns to citizens to let the citizens know that they are going to have to have a city property tax that we currently do not have. [3:31:48, 3:31:49]: Now [3:31:50, 3:31:57]: There are going to be some talk about whether or not we get a rollback and all these other different things that they that may come up. [3:31:57, 3:32:07]: And it may help some, but not really when our financial advisor stated that the tax amount, the amount that we'll be paying for our our police services. [3:32:08, 3:32:09]: Are more. [3:32:09, 3:32:11]: than what the county pays. [3:32:12, 3:32:13]: current that we pay currently. [3:32:15, 3:32:25]: that based off of based off of financial numbers. So we need to be aw not that anyone's against the police department. It's just a matter of the way it was kind of shoved down. [3:32:26, 3:32:40]: the throats of our citizens without a lot of a lot of input and without putting them on we we may have had one town hall that kind of talked about it or alluded to it, but not one time has anyone said, folks. [3:32:41, 3:32:45]: We're gonna have a city property tax in order to financially stay afloat. [3:32:46, 3:32:47]: So look at that. [3:32:50, 3:32:51]: Mr. Thomas Square, please. [3:32:51, 3:32:56]: Thank you. Uh Mr. Nine, I I I I thank you again for [3:32:56, 3:32:58]: Sharing that information. [3:32:58, 3:32:59]: Um [3:32:59, 3:33:02]: You know, w we have discussed this. [3:33:03, 3:33:03]: Um [3:33:04, 3:33:06]: So many times he [3:33:06, 3:33:09]: I don't think there's no citizens out there that don't understand. [3:33:10, 3:33:13]: No one likes tax. [3:33:13, 3:33:15]: Tea splash. [3:33:15, 3:33:18]: You know, even though you know all of these penitexes are [3:33:19, 3:33:22]: Folks understand about taxes. [3:33:22, 3:33:25]: Uh, as much as we have discussed this. [3:33:25, 3:33:29]: There's no one out there that do not understand that that would not be attacked. [3:33:30, 3:33:32]: I don't see anyone [3:33:32, 3:33:35]: Be not with doors down, complaining about a tax. [3:33:36, 3:33:37]: The folk that I've talked to. [3:33:38, 3:33:42]: They are saying thank you, stock rear. Thank you for this public safety. [3:33:43, 3:33:43]: Yeah. [3:33:45, 3:33:49]: There has to be a start somewhere uh in this direction. [3:33:50, 3:33:52]: This is forward planning. [3:33:52, 3:33:53]: Um [3:33:54, 3:33:59]: Name a city. There's a few um in Henry County that probably do not have that tax. [3:34:00, 3:34:03]: But name a city that do not have a police department. [3:34:03, 3:34:06]: Uh, we know that crime. [3:34:06, 3:34:07]: Is uh [3:34:07, 3:34:10]: I hear all the time folks are afraid. [3:34:10, 3:34:14]: They're afraid to go out of their houses because of public safety. [3:34:15, 3:34:17]: There is no way in my mind [3:34:17, 3:34:21]: And we cannot continue to move forward with this. [3:34:21, 3:34:24]: I have not heard of any alternative. [3:34:24, 3:34:33]: To not have an aid police department. And we all know the conversation we've had with our county commissioners about the service. [3:34:33, 3:34:37]: So I'm just saying, Mr. Knight, you know, we have discussed this over and over and over. [3:34:37, 3:34:38]: Um [3:34:39, 3:34:41]: You have to be on the rock. [3:34:41, 3:34:43]: You have to live in a cave. [3:34:43, 3:34:46]: Not to understand the dynamics. [3:34:46, 3:34:50]: of Stockbridge coming forward with their police department. [3:34:50, 3:34:54]: You have to live on the rock not to know that there may be [3:34:54, 3:34:55]: uh uh a tax. [3:34:56, 3:34:57]: Uh you know. [3:34:58, 3:34:59]: We live with taxes. [3:35:00, 3:35:15]: What I hear from citizens, they appreciate us moving this city forward. And you have to make a start. Uh I don't see us um in January hiring 50 officers, but I see us coming in with the chief. [3:35:16, 3:35:24]: The chief doing his work, and we slowly, slowly roll out a police department. [3:35:24, 3:35:37]: The time is now, everybody. The time is now to start this conversation. Yes, we bonded three million. The time is now. I don't hear no alternative. And what are we waiting for? [3:35:38, 3:35:41]: Are we gonna wait till crime come and knock on your door? [3:35:42, 3:35:45]: Before you say, Oh, we need a Stockbridge Police Department. [3:35:46, 3:35:47]: Look at the stats. [3:35:48, 3:36:01]: The stats indicate that we need to do this. But I'm just saying, you know, we have discussed, discussed, we have litigated, and it's just time for us to move on. I I don't want to sit here tonight to read. [3:36:02, 3:36:03]: Litigate. [3:36:03, 3:36:06]: The issue that's already been passed. [3:36:06, 3:36:10]: Um, I don't like taxes. I don't want to pay a tax, but [3:36:12, 3:36:14]: In order to get [3:36:15, 3:36:18]: The protection and the public safety that we need. [3:36:18, 3:36:20]: We have to be far with thinking. [3:36:20, 3:36:23]: We have to plan for the future. [3:36:23, 3:36:27]: I think Mr. Knight, I think you have laid it out very well. [3:36:27, 3:36:36]: All of the pros and the cons and and and you know and all of that. And I think I can live with it. I think the citizens can live with it. [3:36:37, 3:36:39]: Uh again, Mr. Knight, you have laid it out. [3:36:39, 3:36:50]: Yes, yes, citizen. And I think you understand that because in my conversation with citizens, they understand that there may be a a uh a millage. [3:36:51, 3:37:08]: Folk can live with that. Folk want public safety. Folks wanna feel safe. They want their children to feel safe. When they walk out on the trail, they wanna feel safe. When they go to the bus stop, they wanna feel safe. When they go to the gas station, they wanna feel safe. [3:37:10, 3:37:13]: So this is forward thinking, this is forward planning. [3:37:14, 3:37:15]: What are we waiting for? [3:37:16, 3:37:22]: What are we waiting for? I I have not heard anyone give an alternative. What are we waiting for? [3:37:24, 3:37:27]: So I'm just saying, hey, it's it's time. [3:37:28, 3:37:29]: It's time. [3:37:30, 3:37:32]: Let's move forward, Mr. Knight, please. [3:37:32, 3:37:35]: Uh let's move forward, ladies and gentlemen. It's time. [3:37:36, 3:37:38]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:37:39, 3:37:44]: Thank you, Mayor. Um thank you, Councilman Thomas, for making that point. Same point I was gonna make. [3:37:45, 3:37:46]: What are we waiting for? [3:37:46, 3:37:48]: And the fact that [3:37:49, 3:37:59]: Stockbridge is one of very few cities here in Georgia that does not have a municipal tax. What I've heard is all of the desires. [3:38:00, 3:38:01]: of the people in the community. [3:38:01, 3:38:03]: The things that they want to see here. [3:38:04, 3:38:07]: With that comes a tax. [3:38:07, 3:38:10]: Mr. Knighton during our retreat, I believe it was a retreat. [3:38:11, 3:38:15]: Um he talked about what that millage rate looks like. [3:38:16, 3:38:16]: With [3:38:17, 3:38:32]: depending on the house, the value of the house. Do you have that information to share right now, Mr. Knighton? The kind of give the citizens an idea based on their house or value of their home, what that millage rate will look like. [3:38:33, 3:38:38]: and break it down by the year how much they would pay a millet rate for. [3:38:38, 3:38:39]: The city. [3:38:40, 3:38:42]: Right. That would be about um [3:38:42, 3:38:46]: you look at three and a half mils or so, which is contemplated, that would be about [3:38:47, 3:38:50]: Two hundred and fifty dollars per year. [3:38:50, 3:38:51]: Per year. [3:38:51, 3:38:53]: Mm-hmm. That's correct. [3:38:53, 3:38:55]: Thank you, sir. Um the other point. [3:38:56, 3:39:01]: Um with the that's why I asked Mr. Knighton, what does the transition [3:39:01, 3:39:06]: um from Henry County looks like. I want to make sure that the citizens are clear. [3:39:07, 3:39:11]: Once we bring the police chief on board, which will be within the next few weeks. [3:39:12, 3:39:14]: He'll be responsible. [3:39:14, 3:39:17]: For putting together a plan. [3:39:17, 3:39:22]: forward forward and bringing it to the council. What better person to do that than the expert? [3:39:23, 3:39:27]: He will bring it to the council and make his recommendations to us. [3:39:27, 3:39:30]: Come January of twenty twenty two. [3:39:31, 3:39:33]: No, we are not canceling. [3:39:33, 3:39:42]: The SDS agreement with Henry County Police, they will still be patrolling and providing public safety as they always have been. [3:39:42, 3:39:46]: We will just have another layer, layer of public safety here. [3:39:47, 3:39:49]: What is baffling to me is [3:39:50, 3:39:51]: And I know I'm the newest member here. [3:39:53, 3:39:56]: This council approved the construction of this amphitheater. [3:39:56, 3:39:58]: Before I got here. [3:39:59, 3:40:03]: Why weren't you not thinking about public safety considering [3:40:03, 3:40:05]: Thousands of people are going to be coming here. [3:40:06, 3:40:07]: It is important. [3:40:08, 3:40:09]: That public safety. [3:40:10, 3:40:11]: Be a priority. [3:40:12, 3:40:14]: Which is why I approve Bali. [3:40:14, 3:40:18]: the three million dollars to get us going, to make sure that we have money. [3:40:19, 3:40:20]: For this police chief. [3:40:20, 3:40:23]: to purchase the immediate things that it needs. [3:40:24, 3:40:29]: I just don't want there to be misinformation being shared with citizens. [3:40:29, 3:40:36]: making them think that this millage rate is going to be excessive and people aren't going to be able to afford it. [3:40:38, 3:40:40]: I don't I don't like the misinformation here. [3:40:41, 3:40:43]: I believe this council is acting responsibly. [3:40:44, 3:40:47]: Considering we have a construction of we have an amphitheater here. [3:40:48, 3:40:50]: And thousands of people are going to be coming here. [3:40:51, 3:40:52]: Yes now. [3:40:53, 3:40:54]: Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [3:40:55, 3:40:55]: Thank you. [3:40:56, 3:40:56]: Um [3:40:57, 3:41:01]: After listening to some of the comments, I think that I don't want anyone to get it. [3:41:02, 3:41:02]: Twisted. [3:41:03, 3:41:06]: I think that the entire mayor council wants a [3:41:07, 3:41:08]: Police department. [3:41:09, 3:41:12]: I also think there's a way in order that we do that. [3:41:13, 3:41:33]: Right now, we were told that because of all the projects that we have going on, and because of what we've been doing, and based off of the numbers, based off of equipment, based off of all the feasibility studies, the updated feasibility study, everything we have, we're gonna be required to have a city property tax. [3:41:33, 3:41:34]: Now [3:41:34, 3:41:35]: I don't know. [3:41:36, 3:41:37]: What citizens? [3:41:38, 3:41:40]: Any other council members have talked to? [3:41:41, 3:41:47]: But I've heard totally opposite when I tell them that they have a have a city property tax. People are concerned. [3:41:48, 3:42:08]: And and no offense, it could be a very minimum tax. It could be a hundred dollars a year. It could be uh extra hundred dollars a year, two hundred dollars, but we know once you start a millage, they always increase. That's history, that's period in general. Right now, that particular tax would solely be for. [3:42:08, 3:42:16]: For the police department. When I asked the question, what was that tax for? It was to fund the police department. [3:42:16, 3:42:20]: And if the citizens want that, then so be it. [3:42:21, 3:42:32]: I'm all for all of our constituents. I'm all for us having that police protection. Extra protection. Yes, we have the amphitheater. We also have security. They just talked about that recently. [3:42:32, 3:42:33]: Um tonight. [3:42:34, 3:42:36]: That we will still have protection. [3:42:37, 3:42:41]: We're rolling it out slowly. I just want everyone to understand. [3:42:42, 3:42:42]: That [3:42:44, 3:42:50]: Although we have thought about it, we've done a study, we've seen the results, we know what we have to do. [3:42:50, 3:42:54]: We are, I don't think that all of our citizens are aware. [3:42:54, 3:42:55]: Of that. [3:42:55, 3:42:58]: I can't, I'm not gonna downplay that and say that they are. [3:42:59, 3:43:01]: 'Cause they're not. Not the ones that I talk to. [3:43:03, 3:43:07]: So and and the concern is why can't we do it like some of the other cities who [3:43:07, 3:43:12]: don't have a tax. Well some of those cities might be underwater. [3:43:12, 3:43:20]: Or some of those cities may, well, under what in the red, or whatever you want to call it. Or, you know, the population size may be different. [3:43:21, 3:43:22]: Um there are different [3:43:23, 3:43:26]: Things that contribute, but our financial advisor. [3:43:26, 3:43:27]: Person that we hired. [3:43:28, 3:43:30]: Stated we would have to have a city property tax. [3:43:30, 3:43:33]: And I'm not against a police department. [3:43:34, 3:43:44]: at all. Make that statement every single time. You can find it on municode.com and Google Stockbridge Municode and read every single minute from every single year. Never. [3:43:44, 3:43:53]: However, what you cannot do is say that I have not stated this over and over and over again, that our citizens need to know. [3:43:53, 3:44:04]: And need to be aware that we are going to provide a we are going to require that it's going to be a requirement in the near future, at some point, a city property tax. [3:44:04, 3:44:05]: That's all. [3:44:06, 3:44:08]: Airport to M, go ahead, please. [3:44:11, 3:44:14]: You know, I just want to be very, very clear. [3:44:15, 3:44:16]: And I want to thank [3:44:17, 3:44:18]: Councilman Thomas. [3:44:19, 3:44:20]: For taking the lead. [3:44:21, 3:44:23]: And I want to thank Councilwoman Barber. [3:44:23, 3:44:24]: For taking the lead. [3:44:25, 3:44:26]: Councilwoman Barber. [3:44:27, 3:44:30]: You know, the discussion had gone on for quite some time. [3:44:30, 3:44:33]: About a police department, but until you arrive. [3:44:34, 3:44:35]: We didn't have the votes to do it. [3:44:36, 3:44:38]: And and Councilman Thomas? [3:44:39, 3:44:40]: Thank you for taking the leadership. [3:44:41, 3:44:43]: Uh in this public safety. [3:44:43, 3:44:44]: Endeavor. [3:44:44, 3:44:45]: Because [3:44:45, 3:44:46]: I don't think [3:44:46, 3:44:47]: Пібова проблем. [3:44:47, 3:44:49]: paying twenty dollars a month. [3:44:49, 3:44:53]: To keep somebody from kicking their door in and protecting their mother and their family. [3:44:55, 3:44:58]: I don't think that's that's going on right now in this community. [3:44:59, 3:45:00]: People call. [3:45:00, 3:45:04]: They have something had a cell phone stolen out of their car or the computer. [3:45:04, 3:45:05]: And then there's a [3:45:06, 3:45:07]: They get well, is anybody hurt? [3:45:08, 3:45:15]: They wait an hour, an hour and a half for somebody to respond. And then they say, well, we'll send there's a report that you can pick up. [3:45:15, 3:45:17]: People are tired of that. [3:45:18, 3:45:21]: They want you to know that you spent twenty million dollars on this amphitheater. [3:45:21, 3:45:23]: But make no mistake about it. [3:45:23, 3:45:27]: This council bonded three million dollars to put your public safety first. [3:45:28, 3:45:32]: Now we can politician can double talk you all day long. [3:45:32, 3:45:44]: But until the money is put up front and these council members right here, we know it. We're looking you straight in the eye and say twenty dollars a month for your police department to keep you safe. [3:45:45, 3:45:48]: We just got the census numbers back. We over thirty thousand now. [3:45:49, 3:45:52]: The state of Georgia and Metro Atlanta continues to grow. [3:45:53, 3:46:05]: And people look at the amphitheater and they say, Well, oh, it's good to look at. It's about economic development. The best thing that I heard tonight was$1.2 million in revenue. [3:46:06, 3:46:10]: That one point two milyen dollars revenue can help offset. [3:46:11, 3:46:12]: The cost of the police department. [3:46:13, 3:46:17]: But I don't wanna have to look at any citizen in the face. [3:46:17, 3:46:19]: When somebody kicked in their door. [3:46:19, 3:46:20]: Okay. [3:46:21, 3:46:25]: And then not say that we did everything possible to keep their wife. [3:46:26, 3:46:27]: And their children's sake. [3:46:29, 3:46:32]: I can say that I'm for a police department all day long. [3:46:33, 3:46:34]: But you gotta pay for it. [3:46:36, 3:46:38]: Цитисенс пай твоє долар за мо. [3:46:38, 3:46:40]: For their monitoring system. [3:46:40, 3:46:42]: With a security system. [3:46:43, 3:46:50]: But boy, they sure would want a police officer riding through their neighborhood like we would be able to provide with that twenty dollars a month. [3:46:51, 3:46:53]: To pay for safety. [3:46:53, 3:46:54]: in their community. [3:46:55, 3:46:56]: As loot. [3:46:57, 3:46:58]: Councilman Alfonso Thomas. [3:46:59, 3:47:01]: And Councilwoman Yolanda Barber. [3:47:01, 3:47:03]: for having the courage to lead. [3:47:03, 3:47:05]: Put in public safety first. [3:47:05, 3:47:06]: Thank you for serving. [3:47:07, 3:47:09]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [3:47:09, 3:47:10]: Thank you. [3:47:12, 3:47:15]: Лемісе Менісиповермен. [3:47:15, 3:47:18]: Is not in the business. [3:47:18, 3:47:21]: Of making money, making profits. [3:47:22, 3:47:23]: Yes. [3:47:23, 3:47:27]: We always want to be safe and be balanced and stay afloat. [3:47:28, 3:47:32]: But we're not in the business of making money and making profits. [3:47:33, 3:47:36]: When you talk about dividends. [3:47:36, 3:47:38]: The dividends [3:47:38, 3:47:39]: To our citizens [3:47:40, 3:47:41]: Or [3:47:41, 3:47:43]: Improved [3:47:43, 3:47:44]: Services. [3:47:45, 3:47:46]: публік сафті [3:47:47, 3:47:49]: Battle Rose. [3:47:50, 3:47:50]: Health. [3:47:51, 3:47:52]: Wellness. [3:47:52, 3:47:53]: Fitness. [3:47:54, 3:47:56]: All of the things that we provide. [3:47:56, 3:47:57]: Two [3:47:57, 3:47:59]: The homeowners that are here now. [3:48:00, 3:48:06]: uh the the the things that we put out to encourage smart growth. [3:48:07, 3:48:12]: The things that we put out to encourage new businesses to come into our great city. [3:48:13, 3:48:17]: You cannot do these things without public safety. [3:48:18, 3:48:21]: This is forward thinking. This is forward planning. [3:48:22, 3:48:25]: I've heard too many stories on North Hendon Boulevard. [3:48:26, 3:48:32]: of business owners having issues because there are no police officers. [3:48:32, 3:48:37]: I've heard too many stories from homeowners. Ask the question. [3:48:38, 3:48:40]: Where are the police? [3:48:40, 3:48:43]: Uh in patrol in my neighborhood. [3:48:44, 3:48:48]: Why are these cars run through my neighborhood and parking? [3:48:48, 3:48:50]: And folks are afraid. [3:48:51, 3:48:54]: If you had your own police department patrolling [3:48:54, 3:48:57]: Getting to know citizens in neighborhoods. [3:48:57, 3:49:01]: parking in neighborhoods, getting out walking, meeting citizens. [3:49:02, 3:49:04]: This is what this is all about. [3:49:05, 3:49:07]: Well, we have to be about providing. [3:49:08, 3:49:10]: Those improved services. [3:49:11, 3:49:13]: To our citizens. [3:49:14, 3:49:16]: This is what this is all about. [3:49:17, 3:49:21]: We are not looking to make a profit and for money just to be sent back. [3:49:22, 3:49:24]: That's not what municipal government is about. [3:49:25, 3:49:29]: As I said earlier, yes, we want to be solid and safe. [3:49:30, 3:49:33]: But we should be about providing. [3:49:34, 3:49:36]: Improved services. [3:49:36, 3:49:40]: to all of our citizens. This is what it's about. [3:49:40, 3:49:45]: Citizen understand that there may be a possibility of a of a millage. [3:49:45, 3:49:50]: But you know, locals growth for instance that may not have one, but they have utilities. [3:49:50, 3:49:51]: Name a city. [3:49:52, 3:49:55]: Name a city our size. [3:49:55, 3:49:57]: That do not have a police department. [3:49:58, 3:50:00]: And a millage rate. Name a city. [3:50:00, 3:50:01]: Neem a city. [3:50:02, 3:50:03]: So I'm just saying. [3:50:04, 3:50:05]: Look. [3:50:05, 3:50:09]: January, we're not gonna have a full fledged [3:50:10, 3:50:11]: Department. [3:50:11, 3:50:22]: But we have to start. That's what we're doing right now. We're starting. We've done the research. And the research may have come back a little mixed, but we understand that. [3:50:23, 3:50:26]: But you don't get something, you know, for nothing. [3:50:28, 3:50:32]: So this is expected, and like uh Mayor Pro Tem said. [3:50:33, 3:50:35]: Who would not pay twenty dollars a month? [3:50:35, 3:50:36]: For that [3:50:37, 3:50:41]: Freedom of mind, that that safety of mind. [3:50:41, 3:50:44]: Knowing that when my kids and my grandkids are out. [3:50:44, 3:50:47]: plan or going to the bus stop. [3:50:48, 3:50:50]: That they are somewhat safe. [3:50:50, 3:50:53]: Who wouldn't pay$20 a month for that? [3:50:53, 3:50:56]: So I'm just saying I I mean, hey, you know, this [3:50:56, 3:51:02]: This whole fear tacting and that kind of stuff, it it just it it's just beside me. I'm just saying [3:51:03, 3:51:04]: Let's be proactive. [3:51:05, 3:51:06]: Let's plan. [3:51:07, 3:51:08]: Foi [3:51:08, 3:51:10]: Plan for the future. [3:51:10, 3:51:19]: We always talk about a vibrant community. How are you gonna have a vibrant community without a police department? How do you do that? [3:51:20, 3:51:22]: How do you plan for the future? [3:51:23, 3:51:26]: And you don't have a police department. How do you do that? [3:51:29, 3:51:38]: This is forward thinking. This is planning for the future. We can't wait five years down the road when this is just like the wild, wild west. [3:51:38, 3:51:41]: The time is now to plan. [3:51:41, 3:51:43]: And that's what we're doing. [3:51:44, 3:51:47]: Thank you, Mayor. No problem, you're welcome. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:51:49, 3:51:51]: You know, um [3:51:52, 3:51:57]: Up until a little while ago, we wouldn't talk of Miller's rate nor taxes. [3:51:57, 3:52:03]: We just talk about moving forward. And these are the conversations the citizens need to have with us and hear us say. [3:52:04, 3:52:06]: That a tax would have to be implemented. [3:52:07, 3:52:12]: This is this is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about. Need to be said to the citizens. [3:52:12, 3:52:19]: And then let them home in, let them be able to have the knowledge that this is what it's gonna take for us to stay financially viable. [3:52:20, 3:52:29]: I'm not sitting here against the police department. I'm saying to be clear and transparent with the citizens on what it's gonna take for us to stay financially vibrant. [3:52:30, 3:52:32]: And to implement a police department. [3:52:33, 3:52:37]: And that's what this council now is telling everyone, that a tax will have to be implemented. [3:52:39, 3:52:44]: A tax will have to be implemented. We can say military call it whatever is a tax on the citizens. [3:52:44, 3:52:50]: Now when we talk, we can we can go through scenarios and we can talk about this and talk about that. [3:52:51, 3:52:53]: Uh I've been a stock bridge for fifteen years. [3:52:54, 3:52:56]: I felt safe for fifteen years. [3:52:57, 3:52:59]: In the city of Stockbridge. [3:53:00, 3:53:08]: That's gonna, you know, one of the things that Van Johnson said down in Savannah uh about uh three weeks ago at a a at one of the meetings. [3:53:09, 3:53:13]: He said a police department doesn't stop you from getting crime. [3:53:14, 3:53:21]: There's a the a level of prevention and there's a level of recovery. And there's a level that if someone's gonna do something to you, there's a level of investigation. [3:53:24, 3:53:25]: Police departments [3:53:25, 3:53:28]: Are viable and help keeping you safe. [3:53:29, 3:53:31]: But to say that your house won't ever get broken into. [3:53:32, 3:53:35]: You won't ever have another theft. You won't ever have another car stolen. [3:53:37, 3:53:39]: That's unreasonable to say. [3:53:40, 3:53:48]: The point is what we're trying to make is that the citizens of Stockbridge need to know that in order for us to have a police department, [3:53:48, 3:53:51]: Is we're gonna and I'm not trying to say [3:53:51, 3:53:52]: Don't ever look at me. [3:53:53, 3:53:58]: Like I'm sitting here trying to come against other council members or come against the city of stock. It's not about that. [3:53:59, 3:54:01]: Is about what we're discussing right now. [3:54:02, 3:54:14]: transparency to the citizens on what it's going to take to start one. And this is the conversation I wanted us to open up. And this is the conversation I want us to have. That's all I'm that's that's my role. [3:54:15, 3:54:21]: as an elected official is to be transparent with the citizens and know what it's going to take to do what we need to do. [3:54:22, 3:54:27]: When we talk about how many years someone been on the council or all that, that's [3:54:27, 3:54:29]: You know, I don't get into those politics. [3:54:30, 3:54:32]: I don't get into the politics of scenarios of crimes. [3:54:33, 3:54:35]: But I can get into the politics. [3:54:35, 3:54:38]: And give you scenarios of successes that we've had around the city. [3:54:39, 3:54:40]: We've had around the county. [3:54:41, 3:54:46]: I could you know we can flip-flop it either way, but the bottom line is that in order to [3:54:46, 3:54:53]: Do what we want to do, inform the citizens of how I can how we're gonna have to make it happen. That's all that's all I'm talking about. [3:54:54, 3:55:05]: I tell you what, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to close this out. I'm the last one to be speaking on this issue right now, if we can move on. And I'll say this, we're the largest city in Henry County. We're only a city that, as you well know, doesn't have a police department. [3:55:06, 3:55:07]: Now I'm not originally from here. [3:55:07, 3:55:09]: Okay, but obviously I'll live here now. [3:55:10, 3:55:15]: When I was last told or told some time ago the last time the city of Stockbridge had a police department was nineteen seventy five. [3:55:16, 3:55:23]: I was a senior in high school in nineteen seventy five. I'm sixty-four years old. It's about time things will change, I would imagine, here in this aspect. [3:55:23, 3:55:43]: And I've also on a couple of different occasions mentioned that uh w uh we do this and we have a city property tax the only way you can do this. The the actual um a report we got from uh Carl Vincent introduced several years or so ago indicated that. Talking to the uh police professionals when we had the the uh the county uh [3:55:43, 3:55:59]: the previous county um sh uh sheriff as well as the Henry County police uh uh chief some years ago mentioned that and mentioned you have to start slow or uh small and build up in this aspect. So it has been some dialogue over the course of time in reference to [3:55:59, 3:56:07]: uh funding in reference to a tax and a military rate, things of that nature. It's been discussed, maybe not as thoroughly as some people want, but I know I've actually mentioned it myself. [3:56:08, 3:56:11]: this aspect, knowing that there will be attacks that have to be implemented. [3:56:12, 3:56:30]: Now, so the thing of it is is this we're going down this road and I would think overall with the majority of the citizens, I would think that we want to have a police department for the safety and security of the area. There always will probably be a small percentage of people that say we don't need it. Emory County's fine. I don't want to be taxed. You know, you probably get that anyway across the board. [3:56:30, 3:56:50]: this aspect. But uh we're going down this road and uh hopefully as we continue to go down this road uh that the citizens will will come will have more town halls, more informational sessions and bring them along in this process and then uh eventually uh be successful with implementing a new program, a new police department and smart start small and building it up. [3:56:50, 3:56:55]: And then we'll go from there and uh and see how things flow. But I think it's something obviously we need to do. [3:56:56, 3:56:57]: This aspect and that's where we're headed. [3:56:58, 3:57:03]: So I mean obviously you know we'll have uh further disco conversations as we go down this road and [3:57:03, 3:57:21]: And we'll get a chance, the council get a chance to go ahead and and uh have a chance to interview those individuals that that Mr. Knighton sends forward to us and then we'll solidify that choice and then uh have that individual start that process. We say January, I say the first quarter of twenty twenty two. We'll see how things go. [3:57:21, 3:57:25]: On that note, folks, I'd like to end this because we've been talking quite a bit about it. [3:57:25, 3:57:40]: All right. So I'd like to move on if you don't mind. And what I like to do is is go on to my comments and uh and a lot of my comments are gonna based on our current pandemic that we're dealing with, as was mentioned earlier when we talked about the the state of emergency for a star bridge. Yes, Vanessa. [3:57:41, 3:57:44]: There was uh an item added to the agenda, Mayor. [3:57:44, 3:57:45]: What item was that? [3:57:45, 3:57:53]: Um, did you not have the latest copy that would come over from lastly? What I have is we Stephen I have my Mr Berry. [3:57:54, 3:57:55]: Well, you [3:57:55, 3:57:57]: Prepare to present the last item. [3:58:00, 3:58:07]: Thank you. Yeah, we're gonna bring that to council at the next meeting. Uh I think we're gonna talk to council members and uh [3:58:08, 3:58:12]: staff before then. So that should not be on the agenda. And that's something that we intend to bring back next [3:58:13, 3:58:14]: Be a next council meeting. [3:58:14, 3:58:16]: Noted. Thank you. [3:58:17, 3:58:37]: What I want to mention, ladies and gentlemen, citizens, is simply this. I participated in a weekly uh meeting earlier today involving Piedmont Henry, the county, the cities, and the public health department. And what I want to talk about is simply this. So far, because of COVID-19, the last year and a half, here in Henry County, we had 323 deaths. [3:58:37, 3:58:42]: We have over 22,000 cook uh collected cases in Henry County. [3:58:43, 3:58:45]: of COVID nineteen in the last year and a half. All right. [3:58:46, 3:58:51]: Right now at Piedmont Henry, there are 131 people in Piedmont Henry with COVID-19. [3:58:52, 3:58:56]: Forty two, excuse me, forty nine of those individuals in ICU. [3:58:57, 3:59:00]: Eighty two of those COVID nineteen patients are non-ICU. [3:59:00, 3:59:02]: And thirty of those eighty two. [3:59:03, 3:59:11]: or patients with COVID-19 in the ER. And that's because it packed out at the in in the hospital with the beds. That's why they're in the ER. [3:59:12, 3:59:15]: Pemont Henry has halted all elective surgeries. [3:59:16, 3:59:23]: They only are doing emergency surgery so they have enough t space and enough personnel to handle these COVID-19 cases. All right. [3:59:23, 3:59:28]: And what co what Piemont says now for not only Piemont Henry but entire Piemont hospital system. [3:59:29, 3:59:31]: All their employees must get vaccinated. [3:59:31, 3:59:37]: by one October. All their employees. And if you don't get vaccinated by one October, guess what? [3:59:37, 3:59:39]: You're gonna lose your job. [3:59:39, 3:59:41]: That's the hospital system itself. [3:59:42, 3:59:46]: Testing is extremely important. What's more important is getting vaccinated. [3:59:46, 3:59:48]: But right now, Red Hawk Field. [3:59:48, 3:59:53]: Mako Medical is the contractor that the public health department district four has hired. [3:59:54, 3:59:59]: Along with the support of of course of the county and all the all the cities here in Hermany County. [3:59:59, 4:00:01]: COVID testing is still going on. [4:00:01, 4:00:05]: Bed Hawk Fields located at 143 Henry Parkway. [4:00:05, 4:00:07]: And they expended hours now. [4:00:07, 4:00:10]: Testing is every day, Monday to Friday. [4:00:10, 4:00:20]: 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. free testing for COVID-19. And because of what has occurred since the state of emergency announced in Henry County and all the things that are going on. [4:00:21, 4:00:30]: They have the the testing has automatically gone up in numbers they mentioned today. Automatically gone up. So we're spending, they're spending the hours to make sure that they test people free of charge. [4:00:31, 4:00:32]: Okay. [4:00:32, 4:00:37]: But you can make an appointment. Stand by. Let me finish, please. You can't make an appointment. 800. [4:00:37, 4:00:42]: 847-4262. Once again, 800-847-4262. [4:00:42, 4:00:50]: All right. And uh that'll get you in a district four public health, and you can set an appointment to get the testing. But at the location, once again, the red hot field. [4:00:50, 4:00:53]: one forty three Henry Parkway. [4:00:54, 4:00:56]: Now let me mention this, the public health department. [4:00:57, 4:01:02]: Public Health Department located at 143 Henry Parkway, which is right next to Red Hawk Field. [4:01:03, 4:01:16]: They are giving out vaccinations. They will give you a free vaccination. You can walk in and get the free vaccination, but you're gonna you have to take some time. It's gotta get you loaded into the system. They prefer you to actually make an appointment. [4:01:16, 4:01:17]: Okay. [4:01:17, 4:01:24]: And the vaccination is free, but if you have insurance, they'll take your insurance information. But if you don't have insurance, they'll still give you a vaccination. [4:01:25, 4:01:30]: So you can you can make an appointment by going to District Four, Public Health Department, eight hundred. [4:01:30, 4:01:35]: Once again, 847-4262 to make an appointment. You can also make an appointment. [4:01:36, 4:01:39]: with the Jordan State Public Health Department, which is eight eighty eight. [4:01:40, 4:01:57]: four five seven zero one eight six. Once again eight eight eight four five seven zero one eight six. Or you can go to the the the district four health department website and log on the website and I'll make an appointment for vaccination that way as well. [4:01:58, 4:02:02]: That is district four, the number four, health. [4:02:03, 4:02:05]: dot org once again district the number four [4:02:06, 4:02:08]: Health daorg for the website. [4:02:09, 4:02:18]: At the public health department, right at 143 Henry Parkway, right next to Red Hawk Field, Red Hawk Field, they have Mederma and Pfizer. [4:02:18, 4:02:20]: For the vaccination. McDermott and Pfizer. [4:02:20, 4:02:32]: And of course, Pfizer is the only authorized vaccination you can get currently that's been approved for children ages 12 to 17. 12 to 17 can only get Pfizer right now. [4:02:32, 4:02:32]: Right. [4:02:33, 4:02:34]: But it can be done. [4:02:34, 4:02:35]: Set to appointment. [4:02:39, 4:02:41]: I want to mention that to you. Now. [4:02:42, 4:02:44]: One other thing I gotta s several things I gotta tell you. [4:02:45, 4:02:45]: CDC. [4:02:46, 4:02:50]: CDC has COVID-19 delta variant information. [4:02:51, 4:02:52]: It's extremely important. [4:02:53, 4:02:57]: Getting vaccinated prevents several illnesses, hospitalizations, and death. [4:02:58, 4:03:00]: This also helps reduce the spread of the virus. [4:03:01, 4:03:07]: Unvaccinated individuals should get vaccinated and continue masking until they are fully vaccinated. [4:03:08, 4:03:11]: The delta variant is more urgent than ever. [4:03:11, 4:03:16]: And and it's has had the highest spread of cases and severe outcomes. [4:03:16, 4:03:21]: And it's happening in places where people have low vaccination rates, where areas of low vaccination rates now. [4:03:22, 4:03:28]: Data shows the delta variant is much more contagious than any previous viruses we've been dealing with. [4:03:30, 4:03:40]: Some vaccinated people can get the delta variant and a breakthrough infections, but it but it may not be c it won't be contagious. You're not gonna get go to the hospital if you happen to get it for some strange reason. [4:03:40, 4:03:48]: Vaccinated individuals represent this very small amount of transmission occurring around the country. [4:03:48, 4:03:57]: So I'm a vaccinated entire council is a vaccinated. So I mean, chances are we're not gonna get we're not gonna get the virus because we're vaccinated. Very slim, very slim percentage. And if when we did, [4:03:57, 4:04:01]: You won't be going to the hospital. You won't be handing on the hospital bed. You'll get over in a few days. [4:04:02, 4:04:08]: Virtually all hospitalizations and deaths continue to be among people unvaccinated. [4:04:09, 4:04:10]: Let me say that again. [4:04:11, 4:04:15]: Virtually all hospitalizations and deaths. [4:04:15, 4:04:18]: continue to be people that are unvaccinated. [4:04:18, 4:04:21]: Period. It's like playing Russian roulette, folks. [4:04:21, 4:04:22]: You know? [4:04:23, 4:04:34]: In areas of substantial and high transmission, the CDC recommends that everyone, including fully vaccinated individuals, wear a mask in public indoor settings. [4:04:35, 4:04:41]: to assist in preventing the spread of the delta variant and to fr and also to protect others in the process. [4:04:42, 4:04:48]: CDC recommends that community leaders encourage vaccination and masking to prevent further outbreaks. [4:04:49, 4:04:52]: In the area of substantial and high transmission. [4:04:52, 4:04:54]: It's high enough in Henry County. [4:04:55, 4:05:09]: CC recommends universal indoor masking for all teachers, staff, students, and visitors to K-12 schools, regardless of vaccination status, period. Children should return to full-time in-person learning. [4:05:10, 4:05:30]: In the fall, with the layer prevention strategies in place. And I believe that's exactly what our Henry Canada school system is doing. And I would imagine our public school system, excuse me, our private schools are doing the exact same thing as well. They're serious business, folks, in this aspect. And really, it's the unvaccinated that need to get vaccinated. They're the ones that are in the hospitals, and they're the ones. [4:05:30, 4:05:32]: ones that are in serious danger. [4:05:32, 4:05:40]: And if you happen to be a parent that is unvaccinated and have small children that are under twelve that can't get vaccinated, you're putting your own children in danger. [4:05:41, 4:05:46]: And besides yourself, your kids are in danger. So you should get vaccinated so you'll help protect your children as well. [4:05:47, 4:05:50]: Of course, if you're over twelve, Pfizer. [4:05:50, 4:05:51]: They they can have a Pfizer. [4:05:52, 4:05:53]: Vaccination. [4:05:53, 4:05:56]: And if you and Pfizer and Miderma are good for anybody eighteen and over. [4:05:57, 4:05:58]: Very important folks. [4:05:58, 4:06:00]: That aspect. You need to get that out. [4:06:00, 4:06:02]: All right. So on that note. [4:06:03, 4:06:17]: Let's see here. I got some activities coming up, some things that we need to talk about here. Uh Main Street Advisory Board meeting is uh the second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. Uh on by way of Zoom on September 10th. [4:06:19, 4:06:25]: The Downtown Development Authority meeting at 6 PM by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month. That'll be August 17th. [4:06:26, 4:06:33]: The new council advisory meeting at 630 by way of Zoom, third Thursday, a third Tuesday of each month on August 17th as well. [4:06:35, 4:06:40]: The planning commission meeting is 6:30 by way of Zoom, fourth Thursday of each month, which is August 26th. [4:06:41, 4:06:43]: Council work session, 6 p.m. [4:06:43, 4:06:46]: Zoom, last Tuesday of East Month, August thirty first. [4:06:47, 4:06:53]: And our next city council meeting with 6 p.m. by way of Zoom. Uh, and it's be on the 14th of September. [4:06:54, 4:07:04]: Please join Councilman Barber at the Merrill Manters Conference Center for the Blood Drive Council initiative, which is Saturday, August 21st from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. So please donate. [4:07:05, 4:07:06]: That's this coming Saturday. [4:07:06, 4:07:26]: Well Mayor Ford, that has been canceled. I'm sorry. Oh, you canceled that? Okay. So be it. It's canceled. All right. And then um and then actually on the Monday the twenty-sixth from ten a.m. to twelve noon is the opportunity to meet the mayor, have conversation with me one-on-one, to voice your questions and concerns. That's Monday, August 23rd from 10 a.m. to noon. [4:07:26, 4:07:35]: and uh call the city hall 770-389-7900 to uh make an appointment. Look forward to talking to you uh uh next Monday, one week from today. [4:07:36, 4:07:37]: On that note, uh [4:07:37, 4:07:42]: our counsel and I believe our attorneys, we have a Zecular session that we need to uh go into at this point. [4:07:43, 4:07:44]: Yes, that's correct, Mike. [4:07:44, 4:07:47]: Okay, so I need a motion to go into second session, Council. [4:07:49, 4:07:53]: May I I move that we go into executive session for personnel. [4:07:54, 4:07:58]: Uh personnel litigation and personnel litigation and real estate. [4:07:58, 4:08:00]: There you go. Is there a second? [4:08:01, 4:08:04]: Ms. Barber seconds that motion. All in favor, please indicate. [4:08:05, 4:08:17]: All right, good deal. It's in looks like it's unanimous there. Okay, we'll go into Zegova session. See you in about the ten minutes. Uh Miss Holiday, I guess uh the IT guys will be able to they're online. They'll be able to send us a new link to get into Zegova session here. [4:08:18, 4:08:22]: Uh yes, we have that meeting ready. Okay. Thank you very much. See you in the next session, folks. [4:08:24, 4:08:25]: Start here. [4:08:31, 4:08:34]: All right. So uh okay, there's Jeremy. Okay. [4:08:36, 4:08:41]: All right, so we have uh we have one turning. So anyway, as long as we got one. Un otherwise uh [4:08:42, 4:08:48]: Uh I'm gonna go forward with this council. I need a motion to uh close out our executive session, please. [4:08:49, 4:08:49]: Some more. [4:08:50, 4:08:51]: Their second. [4:08:51, 4:08:56]: Second. Mr. Thomas, second that. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [4:08:58, 4:09:10]: Okay, an decision on that. Well three. Um okay, Miss Holiday, you're Miss Holday you're you're muted. Who I'm sorry, who made the motion? I got the second. Yeah, Alexander and then Thomas and it's uh [4:09:11, 4:09:18]: We have a quorum, so it's unanimous with the quorum this year. I need a motion now to uh uh convene our council meeting. [4:09:18, 4:09:21]: Oh no Okay, let tell us something. [4:09:22, 4:09:23]: Council Thomas made a motion. [4:09:23, 4:09:26]: Mayor Pro Tem, you so you second that motion? [4:09:26, 4:09:26]: Yes. [4:09:27, 4:09:28]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [4:09:30, 4:09:39]: All right, thank you. All right. Uh okay, ladies and gentlemen. Uh in reference to our executive session, uh I have a uh Ma'am Ford. Yes, ma'am. [4:09:40, 4:09:44]: I see that this meeting is being recorded. Yes. When is it live? [4:09:46, 4:09:51]: Oh, okay. That's a good point. Uh IT guy then normally we put uh [4:09:52, 4:09:56]: It's a good point. Uh I don't know. Um [4:09:57, 4:10:01]: Well, Mr. Knight, can we get hold of and and go back on Facebook Live for this as well? [4:10:02, 4:10:02]: A cheers? [4:10:10, 4:10:11]: Vanessa, would you [4:10:12, 4:10:14]: I'm trying to reach him. Trying. Okay. [4:10:14, 4:10:29]: Okay. So otherwise, uh hm. Okay, so I that's a good point. So we may have to redo all this. Is that what you're getting at? Because right now, if that's the case, the you're closing out the the second session and coming back in the regular council and you wasn't on Facebook. They're asking [4:10:30, 4:10:32]: Um, if we're Facebook Live, do you know? [4:10:34, 4:10:38]: I don't see you on Facebook. Okay. So let me try to join. [4:10:39, 4:10:39]: Thank you. [4:10:42, 4:10:45]: He's joining so that he can actually do that. [4:10:45, 4:10:47]: Okay. Thank you. Thank you. [4:11:02, 4:11:03]: All right, Mr. Bond. [4:11:08, 4:11:13]: Uh Vanessa, can you make me uh host please? All right, where are you? I don't s even see you. [4:11:14, 4:11:20]: I actually right now. Oh, you're me? Okay, if what if [4:11:20, 4:11:24]: Well I'm sorry. [4:11:25, 4:11:27]: Okay, there you are. [4:11:33, 4:11:34]: Okay. [4:11:56, 4:11:57]: That's fun. [4:12:08, 4:12:11]: Now we go. Here we go. We're going. [4:12:14, 4:12:21]: All right. We'll go through this again. All right, Council. I need a motion to end our executive session, please. [4:12:21, 4:12:22]: Some more [4:12:22, 4:12:26]: Okay. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [4:12:27, 4:12:31]: All right. Now I need a motion to reconvene a council meeting. [4:12:32, 4:12:33]: So move. [4:12:33, 4:12:36]: Yeah, second. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [4:12:37, 4:12:38]: All right. [4:12:39, 4:12:47]: All right, based on our executive session, our discussion, uh, we have uh actual we have a um a resolution uh that I must read here to put in the record. [4:12:48, 4:12:53]: And this is a resolution censoring councilman, council member John Blount. [4:12:53, 4:13:07]: Whereas the city of Stockbridge is a municipal corporated duly organized and existing under the laws of the state of Georgia and is charged with providing public services to residents located within the corporate limits of the city. [4:13:07, 4:13:13]: Whereas the council member John Blount was elected to serve the citizens of city of the city. [4:13:13, 4:13:23]: Whereas Councilmember Blount swore an oath, which, among other things, stated that he would perform the duties of the office of councilmember in the best interest of the city. [4:13:23, 4:13:28]: Whereas the office of the city uh council member requires that such elected [4:13:28, 4:13:31]: Fish will meet the high standards of b of behaviour. [4:13:32, 4:13:45]: Whereas the city of Stockbridge, through the city's council, speaks on behalf of the citizens and does not condone any type of unprofessional, unethical, or inappropriate conduct by those who have sworn the oath to serve. [4:13:45, 4:14:00]: Whereas the City Code of Conduct states that council members shall conduct themselves so as to bring a credit upon the city as a whole and to set an example of good ethical conduct for all citizens of the community. [4:14:01, 4:14:21]: City Code Section 2.40.055A1E, whereas cities uh city council has become aware of multiple employee concerns involving council members Blount's behavior, including alleged appropriate, inappropriate conduct or statements, essence of time spent at city. [4:14:21, 4:14:27]: Hall and pattern and fraternizing with city employees and making certain employees feel uncomfortable. [4:14:28, 4:14:48]: Whereas the city council, by census, engaged an independent investigator to investigate the employee allegations concerning Councilmember Blount's alleged conduct. Whereas an independent investigator interviewed seven people, including Councilmember Blount, and concluded with the Councilmember Blount had made multiple city employees feel uncomfortable. [4:14:48, 4:15:08]: Comfortable when he had made certain statements and engaged in certain conduct during various visits to City Hall during employees' working hours. Whereas the independent investigator determined that Councilmember Blount's actions violated City Code Sections 2.40.055 B1, threat city staff. [4:15:08, 4:15:28]: Staff as professionals and with respect, excuse me, treat city staff as professionals with respect. B3, keep communications with city and staff short and limit disruption of the work of the city staff. And B for refrain from expressing concerns about the performance of a city. [4:15:28, 4:15:33]: employee in public or at or to the employees uh directly. [4:15:34, 4:15:54]: Whereas if the independent investigator did not conclude that the Council Member Blount's actions violated equal employment opportunity laws, whereas the city council wishes to make it clear that the council does not condone nor accept such behavior, whereas the city council finds that this resolution is necessary and beneficial to its citizens. [4:15:54, 4:16:06]: and to clarify the role of the city council of the council member. Therefore it is resolved by the city council and the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, as follows. Section one, censor. [4:16:06, 4:16:26]: Councilmember Blount is hereby formally century for his behavior as stated above. Councilmember Blount is hereby called upon to cease with behavior and to conduct itself in a manner fitting to the office of the city council member with respect to the city staff. Section two, approval of execution. The mayor or mayor pro tem is hereby authorized. [4:16:26, 4:16:43]: To sign all documents and perform all the necessary acts necessary to officiate this resolution on behalf of the city stopbridge. The city clerk is authorized to execute a test and seal any document which may necessary be to officiate this resolution. [4:16:44, 4:17:04]: Uh section three, severity, severability, excuse me, uh to the content of any portion of this resolution declared to be invalid, unforceable, or non-bind binding that shall not affect the remaining portions of this resolution. Section four, repeal of the conflicting provisions, also the resolution. [4:17:04, 4:17:24]: In consistent with the resolution are hereby repealed. Section 5, effective date. This resolution shall become effective immediately upon the adoption of the city's council or the city stop bridge as provided in the city charter, resolved on this day. Well, actually it's now well decision made on the 16th day of July. Excuse me, 16th day of August. [4:17:24, 4:17:25]: [15445.9, 15452.1]: and uh set aside for me to sign along with the Vanessa Holiday, our clerk and our attorney. [4:17:32, 4:17:37]: Um, I would imagine now we need to have a motion to accept this resolution. [4:17:38, 4:17:41]: Mayor make a motion to accept this resolution. [4:17:41, 4:17:45]: To indicate that uh our city of Stockworth employees are to be [4:17:46, 4:17:48]: Treasure and that well. [4:17:48, 4:17:51]: Um any type of intimidation or [4:17:52, 4:17:58]: uh un inappropriate behavior in the workplace is totally unacceptable in the city of Stockbridge. [4:17:58, 4:17:59]: Is there a second? [4:18:00, 4:18:06]: Does that Mr. Thomas second that? Okay. Any further discussion? And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [4:18:09, 4:18:29]: Okay. Mr. Okay, three three votes. All right. We have a quorum. Three votes. All right. Motion passes. All right. I'll uh I'll sign this and get this uh I guess uh Mr. Washington or Mr. Berry would have to officially inform, I suppose, or I would have to officially inform uh council member Blount about this and assign this document to I'll do that uh [4:18:29, 4:18:35]: Later on today, since it is now Tuesday in this aspect. Any other comments, uh, counselors before we close out the meeting? [4:18:38, 4:18:44]: Or if not we don't have any uh I mean we don't have any made a four. Okay, on that note then I need a motion council to end the this meeting. [4:18:45, 4:18:52]: So move. Somebody's so okay. That's the move. Second by Council Barber. All in favor, please indicate. [4:18:52, 4:18:54]: Good night, everybody. God bless you. [4:18:54, 4:18:55]: Thank you. [4:18:56, 4:18:56]: Good night. [4:18:58, 4:18:58]: Thanks.
  • 2021-07-27 · City Council · Transcript · Work Session Meeting

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    --- title: July 27 2021 Work Session Meeting date: 2021-07-27 source: 2021-07-27_July_27_2021_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:10:04, 0:10:04]: Yeah. [0:10:43, 0:10:44]: Good evening, everybody. [0:10:47, 0:10:50]: We may have a storm while we're having this meeting here. Let's see. [0:11:09, 0:11:10]: That's kind of [0:11:29, 0:11:30]: Yeah. [0:11:52, 0:11:55]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're actually live on Facebook at this point. [0:12:00, 0:12:01]: I got four minutes to the hour. [0:12:07, 0:12:09]: Good evening, uh Councilman Barber. How you doing? [0:12:12, 0:12:15]: Doing good, good. How are you? Just fine. Just fine. [0:12:18, 0:12:19]: Already. [0:12:28, 0:12:32]: Let's see here. [0:12:34, 0:12:35]: Do this. [0:13:07, 0:13:10]: [830.0, 831.2]: Hello everyone. Hello everyone. [0:13:52, 0:13:54]: Good evening to you. Mayor Proteur? [0:13:54, 0:13:55]: Grieving. [0:14:10, 0:14:10]: Okay. [0:14:37, 0:14:40]: Okay, you see. [0:14:47, 0:14:48]: There we go. [0:14:51, 0:14:53]: [897.5, 900.0]: Okay, so we are [0:15:01, 0:15:06]: Missing one and our attorneys are not present at this point. [0:15:14, 0:15:23]: We do have a quorum, folks. We are live on Facebook, but we're missing uh Mr. Blount and we're missing our attorneys at this point. [0:15:42, 0:15:46]: It seems though we'll be conducting this middle meeting in the middle of a s uh rainstorm. [0:15:46, 0:15:47]: So [0:16:16, 0:16:21]: Well ladies and gentlemen, I have six o'clock, but we're not okay, Mr. Blount's with us now. How you doing there? [0:16:22, 0:16:25]: John, and we need our attorneys. [0:16:44, 0:16:49]: Mr. Knighton, could you do me a great big favor and touch baseball attorneys, please, sir? Thank you. [0:17:35, 0:17:40]: [1072.0, 1075.1]: All right, Mayor, Mayor Richard, good hear, good hear. Okay, thank you. [0:18:44, 0:18:46]: Mayor Ford, I think our thing is. [0:18:47, 0:18:50]: Are with us if it's one of them [0:18:51, 0:18:56]: Maybe maybe under my name. Okay, I see it. I see I see Mr. Washington right there. [0:18:56, 0:19:09]: Right, right. Okay. All right. Good deal. So we have uh Mr. Washington with us. I have six oh three. I'd like to call this council work session uh to order. Uh Tuesday, July twenty seventh. [0:19:10, 0:19:11]: And um [0:19:12, 0:19:15]: Can I get an invocation from Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, please? [0:19:16, 0:19:19]: Uh thank you, Mayor Ford. May everyone bow your heads, please. [0:19:20, 0:19:25]: God with your watchful eye and your covering hand. [0:19:25, 0:19:29]: Please guide these proceedings and the decisions that will be made. [0:19:30, 0:19:33]: In the city of Stockbridge and all over this world. [0:19:33, 0:19:36]: We trust you because we understand. [0:19:36, 0:19:37]: It is you. [0:19:38, 0:19:40]: Thank you for all that you do. [0:19:40, 0:19:41]: And all that you are. [0:19:42, 0:19:45]: And all that we are, because we owe it all to you, Lord. [0:19:45, 0:19:50]: And everything that we do, everything that we say, and everything that we are. [0:19:51, 0:19:56]: Lord, please have a protecting eye over this nation as we see a surge. [0:19:56, 0:19:58]: in the variant in the COVID. [0:19:58, 0:20:00]: Рисрдін, вийно. [0:20:00, 0:20:02]: That it's your plan and your time. [0:20:03, 0:20:06]: You will protect us, you will keep us, and you will guide us. [0:20:06, 0:20:08]: In your ways as only you can. [0:20:09, 0:20:10]: There is a message. [0:20:11, 0:20:13]: We know there is a mess because that is the way. [0:20:14, 0:20:17]: That you operate, but we don't understand. We may not understand. [0:20:17, 0:20:22]: But we know in your guiding hand you will guide us through these turbulent waters. [0:20:22, 0:20:23]: In these times of troubles. [0:20:24, 0:20:26]: Please watch over every leader tonight. [0:20:27, 0:20:30]: And have us to make the best decision as we set the course. [0:20:30, 0:20:31]: And the pattern. [0:20:31, 0:20:32]: For the future. [0:20:32, 0:20:33]: Of our city. [0:20:33, 0:20:37]: in everything we do and all of our actions. [0:20:37, 0:20:38]: And credit to you, Lord. [0:20:38, 0:20:41]: In Jesus' name, Amen. Amen. [0:20:42, 0:20:44]: Can could you please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? [0:20:47, 0:20:58]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for the stands one nation, undergone, indivisible, but liberty and justice for all. [0:21:00, 0:21:01]: So [0:21:02, 0:21:04]: Madam Clerk, I need a roll call, please. [0:21:13, 0:21:15]: Yes, sir. Mayor Ford. Present. [0:21:15, 0:21:16]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:21:16, 0:21:18]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. [0:21:19, 0:21:19]: That's it. [0:21:20, 0:21:20]: Councilman Blount. [0:21:24, 0:21:25]: Council President. [0:21:27, 0:21:28]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:21:29, 0:21:30]: Present [0:21:30, 0:21:31]: Councilman Thomas. [0:21:40, 0:21:41]: Councilman Thomas. [0:21:41, 0:21:43]: We lost Councilman Thomas. [0:21:45, 0:21:54]: Okay, we have a quorum. I'm assuming he'll I'm assuming he will he'll get back on here. Oh Terry, he he popped back in again. Let's see here. [0:21:57, 0:21:58]: Yeah. [0:21:59, 0:22:02]: Councilman Thomas, I don't know but I'm here. Thank you. Present. [0:22:03, 0:22:08]: Um I had a flickery of my power, so hopefully I don't lose power. [0:22:09, 0:22:09]: Okay. [0:22:10, 0:22:16]: All right, we have a quorum. All right. On that uh note, uh council, I need a motion to adopt agenda, please. [0:22:16, 0:22:17]: Miller. [0:22:17, 0:22:17]: Yes, sir. [0:22:18, 0:22:20]: You need to amend the agenda. [0:22:20, 0:22:22]: And remove the public hearing. [0:22:22, 0:22:26]: Uh for the bridges a judico item and place it under. [0:22:26, 0:22:28]: New business for discussion. [0:22:28, 0:22:29]: Allowing the public. [0:22:30, 0:22:31]: To offer comment. [0:22:33, 0:22:34]: About the project. [0:22:34, 0:22:43]: All right. Uh and I would think if we would put that right there, right in the first thing of new business would be still still uh keep the same order, but right there for uh new business, okay? [0:22:43, 0:22:44]: Yes, sir. [0:22:44, 0:22:45]: Okay, good. Is there a second? [0:22:45, 0:22:48]: A second. All right. All favor, please indicate. [0:22:50, 0:22:52]: All right, fantastic. Ms. Gantt? [0:22:52, 0:23:10]: Aye. Okay, good. Well, the decision. All right. Uh what you have before you are the uh review of the minutes for the following meetings, the council meeting on June 14th, and also the council work session June 29th. We review those uh minutes and at our next uh council meeting we'll go ahead and improve them. [0:23:10, 0:23:17]: All right. Uh on that note, um, Ms. Holiday, do we have any public comments at all? Mayor Ford, there are no public comments. [0:23:18, 0:23:31]: Okay, fantastic. Uh presentation, uh FY twenty twenty financial audit and cafer report presented by Miss Hope Pendergrass of Malden and Jenkins. Hope, the show is yours, ma'am. [0:23:37, 0:23:42]: Thank you, Mayor. Can you hear me okay? We can hear you, yes. And we can see the presentation. [0:23:42, 0:23:47]: Okay, for some reason it's not giving me the option to show my video, but um I'm here tonight. [0:23:47, 0:23:58]: Um I see that you all have a very long agenda, so I don't want to take up a lot of your time, but so I'll just um give you some summary comments and then we can um go through [0:23:58, 0:23:59]: Um [0:23:59, 0:24:03]: this document as well included in your packet of information. It looks like your [0:24:03, 0:24:07]: Comprehensive annual financial report in its entirety has been included. [0:24:07, 0:24:11]: Um so if you have any specific questions, either [0:24:11, 0:24:14]: now or later on that you'd like address, I'd be happy to address them. [0:24:15, 0:24:16]: For you all. Um [0:24:17, 0:24:21]: You all looked really good again this year as of twelve thirty one twenty. [0:24:21, 0:24:28]: You received what's called an unmodified opinion. That's the clean opinion. That's the best opinion you can get. So congratulations to [0:24:28, 0:24:32]: management and the council for your leadership in that initiative. [0:24:32, 0:24:38]: Um again this year y'all have strong phone balance such that um [0:24:38, 0:24:42]: Your total fund balance that you're in exceeds your annual expenditures. [0:24:43, 0:24:50]: So there's not many governments, especially ones that don't have property tax, that can say that their fund balance is that strong. [0:24:50, 0:24:55]: So again, congratulations on on having that having that strong fund balance. [0:24:56, 0:25:04]: Um, you did have about six million dollars in transfers out of your general fund this year. That was, of course, by design to help fund some of your capital projects. [0:25:04, 0:25:07]: Did I know y'all had been anticipating in the past couple years? [0:25:07, 0:25:09]: Mainly um [0:25:09, 0:25:10]: The [0:25:10, 0:25:12]: Amphitheater, I believe. [0:25:12, 0:25:19]: Um, you also had some expenditures out of your SPOSS fund to fund the amphitheater again by design and by budget. [0:25:20, 0:25:25]: Um your general fund also included transfers out to support um the Merrill Manders Center. [0:25:26, 0:25:32]: Um and then also to pay the debt service on your URA bonds for the construction of City Hall. [0:25:34, 0:25:38]: Um your utility funds were again very strong, your water and sewer fund. [0:25:38, 0:25:41]: And um I believe your solid ways both had positive [0:25:41, 0:25:45]: Um cash flows for the year. So that's always a good thing. [0:25:46, 0:25:46]: Um [0:25:46, 0:25:53]: And and overall y'all just look really strong. Y'all have other funds that are small and maybe have a little bit of activity like your hotel, motel. [0:25:54, 0:25:54]: Fun but [0:25:55, 0:25:58]: Everything everything really just overall looked really good. [0:25:58, 0:26:08]: Um, we did have a couple of findings that we reported. Um, those related to financial reporting. And when I say financial reporting, [0:26:08, 0:26:13]: That's not necessarily a recording of the transactions and sales, but putting them in the right year either [0:26:13, 0:26:16]: before December thirty one or after December thirty fun. [0:26:16, 0:26:17]: thirty one. [0:26:17, 0:26:25]: So it was really nothing that really gave me pause overall. It's just some things that we had to report because there were material adjustments that we had to make as auditors. [0:26:26, 0:26:30]: Um we did have a few recommendations that we made. Those are um [0:26:31, 0:26:37]: have been provided to management as well. And I've gone through those extensively with both Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Knighton. [0:26:37, 0:26:46]: And I think they have a plan in place, you know, to address those particular items. So I'll pause there before I run through this document quickly and just ask if there's any questions. [0:26:47, 0:26:57]: Well, first of all, I will tell you hope uh thank you for uh uh being with us and giving us this wonderful report, this audit report. I'm um happy to hear and I'm pretty sure that's so the council and citizens listening that we're doing [0:26:57, 0:26:59]: We're doing great financially. [0:26:59, 0:27:06]: But could you do me one favor? You said we had an unmodified opinion for the audit. Could you further could you further explain that, please? [0:27:07, 0:27:20]: So an unmodified opinion, a modified opinion, which is is kind of counterintuitive. An unmodified opinion means that it's the standard report. And the standard report in auditing is a clean opinion, which says that your financial statements [0:27:21, 0:27:22]: Are materially correct? [0:27:22, 0:27:28]: Um, as of you know, one date in time, essentially on December thirty-first, twenty twenty. That's the best you can get. [0:27:29, 0:27:30]: So [0:27:30, 0:27:37]: Okay. All right. Thank you for the explanation. Uh counselor, any any further questions? Right. Okay. Mayor Protein Mazana. Go ahead, please. [0:27:37, 0:27:40]: Yes, ma'am. Thank you for the outstanding report. [0:27:40, 0:27:47]: Uh could you be a little bit more specific so the public can understand what was the fund balance at year end? [0:27:48, 0:27:57]: Um okay. I'm gonna um refer to the audit report here, which is included in your packet, and then I'm also gonna share that on the screen as well. [0:27:57, 0:27:58]: For reference. [0:27:59, 0:27:59]: Right. [0:28:00, 0:28:01]: For the public's point of view. [0:28:02, 0:28:04]: All right. Are y'all seeing? [0:28:04, 0:28:05]: Um [0:28:06, 0:28:08]: Yeah, seventeen million dollars, right? [0:28:09, 0:28:10]: Yes, sir. Um [0:28:11, 0:28:14]: But I did I did wanna um [0:28:14, 0:28:15]: You know. [0:28:15, 0:28:20]: I did want to point out that you all did transfer out a a good bit of that money this year. [0:28:20, 0:28:22]: to support the amphitheater project. [0:28:22, 0:28:26]: Additionally, you know, you all the Merl Manders is is [0:28:27, 0:28:38]: an entity that is requiring a subsidy from the general fund as well. You know, it brings great things to the city as far as people and events and the amphitheater. And I believe y'all are working on a cultural center as well. [0:28:38, 0:28:43]: will also bring, you know, good economic stability and incentives to the community. [0:28:43, 0:28:49]: But those programs traditionally, you know, throughout history of all the governments that Mullen and Jenkins works with. [0:28:49, 0:28:54]: are not individually self sustaining on their own and will require support from the general fund. [0:28:55, 0:29:07]: So as y'all continue to make your decisions about how you're gonna use or evaluate your fund balance in your general fund, I think it's it's prudent to keep in mind that you will have to support some of those initiative on an ongoing basis. [0:29:08, 0:29:11]: Well, thank you so much because uh in the end [0:29:11, 0:29:20]: You know, all i uh i the citizens want to know where this money is going because but you know, even though we're moving forward aggressively. [0:29:20, 0:29:25]: We have seventeen we had the yen in the year, we had seventeen million dollars in the bank. [0:29:25, 0:29:30]: Which is still an increase, uh, still very healthy. [0:29:30, 0:29:42]: uh uh based on our city budget being twelve million dollars a year. So we have over a hundred percent fund balance when Georgia Municipal Association recommends twenty-five percent or more, we're in excess. [0:29:43, 0:30:00]: of of a hundred percent in those numbers uh and i know all of this is already in the report but i certainly want to do it for the public so they understand uh such as the whole these funds there's more money out there like the hotel motel tax and other funds can you go over some of those numbers as well [0:30:01, 0:30:13]: So what you should be seeing on your screen is what's called the the balance sheet for your governmental funds. The first one of which is is the general fund. And I do want to clarify that fund balance does not equal necessarily cash in the bank. [0:30:13, 0:30:14]: Right. Um [0:30:14, 0:30:30]: You all part of your fund balance is related to some of the properties that you all are holding from previous years that were acquired initially by the the downtown development authority. So that makes up almost$2.2 million of your fund balance. So that's not necessarily liquid. [0:30:31, 0:30:37]: Um and then you also have, you know, some some taxes receivable a year in for franchise taxes and things of that nature. [0:30:38, 0:30:44]: So it's important to remember that fund balance is not necessarily cash um in the bank per se. [0:30:44, 0:30:50]: Absolutely. Absolutely. And understanding that number is that when these properties were bought. [0:30:50, 0:30:54]: The market was in a down period. So they they've actually [0:30:54, 0:30:56]: There should have actually been increasing in value. [0:30:57, 0:31:01]: So it actually is a good thing for based on when they were bought. So yes, certainly in this market. [0:31:02, 0:31:07]: the numbers will be going up on what those properties are actually worth. But uh if you would go ahead. [0:31:08, 0:31:14]: Um, I was just gonna say that um in answer to your original question about the other funds [0:31:14, 0:31:27]: Um you all have I think y'all had at and remember this is this is almost seven months old at this point. Right. So at at twelve thirty one twenty-one, let me just see if I can skip over here to [0:31:27, 0:31:29]: That particular page and all of this. [0:31:30, 0:31:30]: Um [0:31:32, 0:31:34]: So you all have [0:31:34, 0:31:38]: A hotel motel fund. So at year end y'all had about eight hundred and twenty [0:31:39, 0:31:43]: Um eight hundred and forty thousand dollars in fund balance in your hotel motel fund. [0:31:44, 0:31:49]: So, you know, some of that goes to the chamber and then you all retain some of that for tourism and [0:31:49, 0:31:51]: Um, other type initiatives. [0:31:51, 0:31:54]: You know, you had the cares money, um [0:31:54, 0:31:55]: That was [0:31:55, 0:31:58]: You had some residual cash sitting in that fund at year end. [0:31:59, 0:32:00]: You all res [0:32:00, 0:32:05]: may have already received some of this American rescue plan money that'll be coming in. [0:32:06, 0:32:11]: Um then you have the Burke Cemetery Fund, which that is in perpetuity to care for that facility. [0:32:12, 0:32:15]: Your state and federal grants fund, that fund. [0:32:15, 0:32:20]: receives money for capital improvement projects like sidewalks and things of that nature. [0:32:21, 0:32:29]: Um, and then like I said, you had about one point two million dollars left in SPLOSS three at that time. I don't know if that money has already been spent at this time. [0:32:30, 0:32:31]: Um [0:32:32, 0:32:36]: And then the DDA has a little bit of cash for its operations. [0:32:36, 0:32:46]: The URA pretty much the only thing that happens with the URA fund is the transfer from the general fund to make the debt service payment. So that fund doesn't really have a lot of activity outside of that transaction. [0:32:47, 0:32:50]: And then you have the impact fee fund, which is a newer fund. [0:32:51, 0:32:56]: that you all um have implemented that assessment. So that fund may continue to grow going forward. [0:32:58, 0:33:04]: Um, you also have a couple of other enterprise funds besides your water fund, your solid waste fund. [0:33:05, 0:33:07]: You know, you all have the stormwater fund as well. [0:33:08, 0:33:15]: That fund for the year had about a four hundred and fifty one thousand dollar what we call increase in net position. [0:33:15, 0:33:16]: And then [0:33:16, 0:33:21]: You know, as I've shown here and I made reference to briefly earlier, the Merrymander Center. [0:33:21, 0:33:22]: Um [0:33:23, 0:33:24]: That that fun. [0:33:25, 0:33:33]: Only had about a thirty five hundred dollar increase for the year. Most of that was a result of the general fund transfer to help subsidize its operations. [0:33:34, 0:33:41]: And then the community center had limited activity as well. And we think about, you know, we were in the pandemic and I'm not sure exactly what. [0:33:42, 0:33:48]: you know, y'all's operations or how much activity y'all were allowing at that facility for twenty twenty. [0:33:48, 0:33:50]: In consideration of COVID. [0:33:50, 0:33:51]: Savvy. [0:33:51, 0:33:52]: Did that answer your question, sir? [0:33:53, 0:33:54]: Yes, thank you so much. [0:33:55, 0:33:55]: Okay. [0:33:56, 0:33:56]: Um [0:33:58, 0:34:00]: Councilwoman Gann, go ahead, please. [0:34:00, 0:34:03]: Thank you. Can you tell me the I saw the [0:34:04, 0:34:10]: Another fund balance was seventeen million. That included properties and not all liquid cash. Can you give me [0:34:11, 0:34:13]: The actual liquid cash that we have. [0:34:13, 0:34:17]: Or do you not have the numbers prior to shifting money over? [0:34:17, 0:34:18]: From the amphitheater. [0:34:21, 0:34:23]: Yeah, current, absolute current. [0:34:24, 0:34:30]: Are you talking about are you talking about total cash or are you talking about cash just in the general fund? [0:34:30, 0:34:36]: Cash just in the general fund. So in the general fund at twelve thirty one, y'all had about eleven million dollars in cash. [0:34:37, 0:34:38]: Okay. [0:34:38, 0:34:43]: December thirty first. Yes, ma'am. And that's included on page sixteen of the document. [0:34:44, 0:34:44]: Okay. [0:34:45, 0:34:50]: And after but we've since then transferred money for the amphitheater. Is that what you're saying? [0:34:51, 0:34:51]: Um [0:34:53, 0:34:58]: That isn't that isn't already in consideration of the fact that y'all had spent [0:34:58, 0:35:03]: The five million dollars, I believe, that y'all had originally said for the amphitheater. [0:35:03, 0:35:07]: Um, and then some of that has been repaid in twenty one, I believe. [0:35:09, 0:35:09]: Okay. [0:35:10, 0:35:11]: Okay. [0:35:13, 0:35:19]: And in your you your past experience with other cities, you mentioned the amphitheater and the arts buildings. [0:35:20, 0:35:36]: And you've stated that from your past experiences, those are uh buildings really that are for the community, but they don't make money. Is that correct? Correct. It is very rare for um recreational cultural type facilities to break even. [0:35:36, 0:35:37]: Um because [0:35:37, 0:35:43]: The the initiative there is for the community and to bring business to fill up your hotels to [0:35:43, 0:35:49]: Fill your restaurants, y you know, to to revitalize, increase your property values around there. [0:35:49, 0:35:53]: It's the operation itself is not necessarily something that breaks even. [0:35:54, 0:35:57]: So as you continue to think about those facilities. [0:35:57, 0:36:03]: Just remember that your general fund is gonna have to be in a position to support those facilities on an ongoing basis. [0:36:04, 0:36:06]: Okay, thank you. No further questions. [0:36:06, 0:36:07]: Right. [0:36:07, 0:36:11]: And council, any further questions for Mr. Ms Pendergrass here? [0:36:15, 0:36:17]: Okay, I see a none. [0:36:19, 0:36:23]: Okay. On that note I I appreciate it, Miss Penegrass. Appreciate the briefing. [0:36:23, 0:36:24]: Presentation. [0:36:24, 0:36:25]: Thank you, sir. [0:36:26, 0:36:26]: Thank you. [0:36:27, 0:36:28]: You're welcome to stay as long as you like. [0:36:29, 0:36:35]: Um FY 2021 mid-year budget review presented by Mr. Wiggins. Sir, please. [0:36:36, 0:36:37]: Okay, Mayor, I'm gonna [0:36:38, 0:36:39]: Share the screen. [0:36:44, 0:36:45]: Yeah. [0:36:45, 0:36:46]: Okay. [0:36:47, 0:36:48]: Did everybody see that? [0:36:48, 0:36:50]: We can see it, sir. Okay. [0:36:52, 0:36:53]: Yeah. [0:36:54, 0:36:55]: Yeah, this is a um [0:36:57, 0:37:00]: Um thank you for this opportunity, Mayor, and um [0:37:00, 0:37:01]: City Council members. [0:37:02, 0:37:05]: This is the twenty twenty one mid year budget review. [0:37:08, 0:37:08]: Yes. [0:37:16, 0:37:20]: Okay. We'll start off with the um the vision, the mission. [0:37:21, 0:37:24]: Vision statement to be the most progressive business and family or [0:37:25, 0:37:29]: community in Metro Atlanta with a focus on enhanced quality of life initiatives. [0:37:30, 0:37:32]: Which promote a sustainable [0:37:32, 0:37:34]: Live, work, play, environment. [0:37:35, 0:37:38]: The mission for the finance department is to provide professional oversight. [0:37:38, 0:37:42]: In consultation to the CD programs and services regarding financial [0:37:43, 0:37:45]: Accounting and budgetary practices. [0:37:46, 0:37:47]: A focus is ensure. [0:37:48, 0:37:49]: Is to ensure [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: Compliance to all relevant [0:37:51, 0:37:54]: financial and budgetary regulations. [0:37:54, 0:37:55]: Including the Georgia budget. [0:37:56, 0:37:57]: Law and state statute. [0:37:58, 0:37:59]: Govern financial information. [0:38:02, 0:38:02]: Okay. [0:38:07, 0:38:08]: Executive summary. [0:38:10, 0:38:14]: The mid year report this d this report represents the mid year comparison. [0:38:16, 0:38:18]: Comparison of [0:38:19, 0:38:21]: The budget and actual revenues, expenditures. [0:38:22, 0:38:25]: And finite financing for twenty twenty one. [0:38:25, 0:38:27]: The twenty twenty one adopted [0:38:28, 0:38:28]: Excuse for moving. [0:38:29, 0:38:31]: I have to change something. [0:38:35, 0:38:35]: Okay. [0:38:37, 0:38:38]: I can see brother. [0:38:39, 0:38:42]: The twenty twenty one adopted operating and capital budget for the year. [0:38:42, 0:38:45]: Stockbridge totaled forty six miljon. [0:38:46, 0:38:47]: As you can see on uh [0:38:48, 0:38:49]: Table one. [0:38:50, 0:38:50]: Um [0:38:51, 0:38:56]: With this funding, the city continues to deliver all the services to the city resident and businesses. [0:38:56, 0:38:58]: The budget was adopted and approved. [0:38:58, 0:39:00]: Before the covet nineteen pandemic. [0:39:01, 0:39:04]: It yield yielded uncertainty regarding [0:39:04, 0:39:07]: Economic outlook and the city revenues and city services. [0:39:08, 0:39:09]: Deliver it to the public. [0:39:16, 0:39:17]: Purpose of the meet year. [0:39:17, 0:39:20]: The annual mid year budget review is an essential element. [0:39:21, 0:39:23]: And maintaining financial stability. [0:39:23, 0:39:26]: It provides the city council an opportunity to review. [0:39:26, 0:39:28]: The general fund and other funds. [0:39:29, 0:39:31]: Make adjustments to achieve a more accurate budget. [0:39:32, 0:39:34]: For the current fiscal year result resulting [0:39:35, 0:39:36]: And greater budget transparency. [0:39:37, 0:39:40]: And also help shape the development of next year's budget. [0:39:41, 0:39:48]: John, does there did you move the slide, sir? I I think we're on a couple of things. Oh you can't see it. No. Oh okay. [0:39:50, 0:39:51]: I did move it. [0:39:54, 0:39:55]: We're still on the first slide. There we go. [0:39:56, 0:39:57]: Okay. I'm sorry about that. [0:40:00, 0:40:02]: For some reason uh [0:40:04, 0:40:05]: Okay. [0:40:06, 0:40:08]: Ай, дисциплинський слай. [0:40:09, 0:40:11]: This monthly uh financial report. [0:40:11, 0:40:13]: This is a budget to actual [0:40:13, 0:40:17]: Um for the general fund expenditures. [0:40:17, 0:40:23]: Uh you can see this this this includes all of the general fund departments. [0:40:23, 0:40:23]: Yeah. [0:40:24, 0:40:25]: It shows in the first column. [0:40:26, 0:40:28]: Uh current month actuals. [0:40:29, 0:40:31]: As of um June thirtieth. [0:40:33, 0:40:33]: Uh [0:40:34, 0:40:36]: This also compares to prior months. [0:40:37, 0:40:38]: June twenty twenty. [0:40:39, 0:40:41]: Uh third column is [0:40:42, 0:40:44]: Current year to date actual. [0:40:45, 0:40:47]: The four column is uh [0:40:48, 0:40:49]: Current twenty twenty one. [0:40:49, 0:40:50]: Budget. [0:40:51, 0:40:54]: And then the field call, we have uh budget to actual variance. [0:40:55, 0:40:55]: For the current year. [0:40:58, 0:40:59]: Six column. [0:41:00, 0:41:03]: Is the FY twenty twenty prior year to date to date actual? [0:41:04, 0:41:07]: And also ending in the last uh column. [0:41:07, 0:41:09]: It's FY twenty twenty prior budget. [0:41:10, 0:41:12]: So this is a monthly uh [0:41:13, 0:41:15]: This this monthly report here. [0:41:15, 0:41:19]: Basically shows the budget actual of the general fund expenditures. [0:41:19, 0:41:31]: But Tom, let me ask you this. Any anything specifically that you need to really highlight or uh force on this particular slide, something that's uh good there or whatever the case may be? Some uh is anything specifically that we need to know? [0:41:32, 0:41:35]: Um, I have a little analysis that uh after [0:41:35, 0:41:40]: Uh present these uh because I'm right these particular reports here. I'm just showing you what [0:41:40, 0:41:42]: Monthly reports that I generate. [0:41:43, 0:41:44]: Um [0:41:45, 0:41:48]: But on this particular this particular slide. [0:41:49, 0:41:51]: Nothing stands out right here. [0:41:53, 0:41:54]: Okay. [0:41:57, 0:41:59]: Next slide. This is this is a um [0:42:00, 0:42:04]: This monthly financial report, this is a statement of revenues and expenditures. [0:42:04, 0:42:06]: All the funds. [0:42:06, 0:42:07]: In the city. [0:42:08, 0:42:09]: Yeah, we utilize. [0:42:10, 0:42:15]: Uh the top part is is the revenue and the bottom part is the expenditures. [0:42:16, 0:42:19]: And it basically has the same columns. So this is basically just [0:42:20, 0:42:20]: Instead of just [0:42:21, 0:42:22]: Looking at the [0:42:23, 0:42:24]: Detail of the general firm. [0:42:25, 0:42:27]: This looks at all of the funds in the city. [0:42:31, 0:42:33]: Next slide, it's a cash flow slide. [0:42:34, 0:42:35]: This uh here [0:42:36, 0:42:39]: And this is this is a cash flow slide for the general fund. [0:42:39, 0:42:41]: This slide here breaks down [0:42:41, 0:42:42]: Нічма [0:42:43, 0:42:45]: actuals and bumps it against the budget. [0:42:45, 0:42:47]: to get a year to day actual. [0:42:47, 0:42:48]: It also [0:42:49, 0:42:50]: Nets the actual [0:42:51, 0:42:52]: uh revenue. [0:42:53, 0:42:54]: And the spinatures. [0:42:56, 0:42:56]: And [0:42:56, 0:43:00]: We take that against the beginning balance of uh [0:43:02, 0:43:03]: The uh fund balance. [0:43:04, 0:43:08]: So each month we can see how the fund balance fund balance changed from month to month. [0:43:10, 0:43:12]: Right now, ending of June [0:43:13, 0:43:16]: The fund balance is sitting at sixteen million, two eighty six. [0:43:17, 0:43:18]: Oh fifty eight. [0:43:25, 0:43:30]: This particular slide here, this is a June cash flow slide for the general fund. [0:43:31, 0:43:32]: This looks like [0:43:34, 0:43:34]: Question. [0:43:35, 0:43:36]: Mayor. [0:43:36, 0:43:37]: Yes, sir. [0:43:37, 0:43:42]: I I I j I didn't wanna just speak. I wanted you to recognize me before I speak. I I [0:43:42, 0:44:01]: Go ahead, Councilman Thomas. I'm sorry. I just I appreciate it. Your question. Uh Mr. Wiggins. Yes. Uh if on this particular slide here under category, uh licensees and permits, can you speak to the highlights here? Can you give us a sense of [0:44:01, 0:44:02]: Um [0:44:03, 0:44:05]: Revenue thus for [0:44:05, 0:44:07]: Uh for uh permitting [0:44:07, 0:44:11]: And even maybe explain even the comparison. I I'm looking at it, but [0:44:12, 0:44:13]: Can you sort of just highlight [0:44:14, 0:44:15]: And speak to the comparison [0:44:16, 0:44:17]: uh permit and [0:44:17, 0:44:20]: Uh from twenty to twenty. [0:44:20, 0:44:23]: to this point in twenty twenty one. [0:44:23, 0:44:30]: Um, can you just share anything with us uh on where we are with licenses and and permits? [0:44:31, 0:44:33]: You talk about all this [0:44:33, 0:44:33]: Um [0:44:34, 0:44:35]: The month of June. [0:44:35, 0:44:36]: Or the [0:44:37, 0:44:38]: Or on this one. [0:44:39, 0:44:42]: From from January. Okay, you look at it. [0:44:43, 0:44:47]: If if you have it broken down like that from January [0:44:47, 0:44:49]: Twenty twenty one. [0:44:50, 0:44:53]: to дюті тоті ва [0:44:54, 0:44:56]: Uh, give us a picture of [0:44:57, 0:44:57]: Um [0:44:58, 0:44:59]: permits. [0:44:59, 0:45:02]: And licensed us for and even [0:45:02, 0:45:04]: And I know twenty twenty was [0:45:05, 0:45:08]: In a pandemic, yes, I guess you can't get a true [0:45:08, 0:45:10]: comparison maybe [0:45:10, 0:45:13]: twenty eighteen or maybe twenty nineteen, you probably compare, but [0:45:14, 0:45:16]: Just sort of sort of speak to where we are. [0:45:16, 0:45:19]: uh in permanent in uh in twenty twenty one. [0:45:21, 0:45:21]: Okay, well [0:45:22, 0:45:26]: In twenty twenty one for as uh revenue, for as a licensing permits. [0:45:27, 0:45:29]: We we have slated as uh [0:45:30, 0:45:31]: A budget being at uh [0:45:32, 0:45:35]: One miljon twenty seven thousand five eighty nine. [0:45:36, 0:45:37]: On a [0:45:37, 0:45:40]: month on a month to month basis. [0:45:40, 0:45:42]: Um January we [0:45:43, 0:45:46]: We collected two hundred and twenty seven thousand three thirty eight. [0:45:47, 0:45:49]: And then from February went from forty one thousand. [0:45:50, 0:45:53]: In March was twenty six thousand. [0:45:54, 0:45:55]: April was forty thousand. [0:45:56, 0:45:57]: And then May was [0:45:57, 0:46:01]: twenty six thousand we round and ended up in June's thirty four thousand, which gave us [0:46:02, 0:46:03]: Um [0:46:05, 0:46:06]: Which gave us a total of uh uh [0:46:07, 0:46:10]: Three hundred ninety seven thousand one fifty. [0:46:11, 0:46:12]: Three ninety seven. [0:46:12, 0:46:14]: One fifty. One fifty. [0:46:15, 0:46:19]: That's that's for uh what we collect as far as permits. [0:46:20, 0:46:21]: The licenses. [0:46:22, 0:46:24]: A lot of this is coming from the um [0:46:26, 0:46:27]: Uh business services. [0:46:28, 0:46:28]: Right. [0:46:29, 0:46:31]: And this is considered the [0:46:31, 0:46:34]: The half half mar half point marks of the year. [0:46:35, 0:46:38]: Exactly. This is the half part this is the half mark. [0:46:38, 0:46:39]: For [0:46:39, 0:46:41]: uh this budget year twenty twenty one. [0:46:43, 0:46:45]: Okay, my last question is [0:46:47, 0:46:53]: I know we are working with Safe Build and I really won't get into the details there at this point. [0:46:53, 0:46:54]: Um [0:46:54, 0:46:57]: But there is a a ratio. [0:46:58, 0:46:59]: Oh um [0:47:00, 0:47:01]: revenue [0:47:01, 0:47:04]: uh division, I guess, if you will. [0:47:06, 0:47:06]: Correct. [0:47:08, 0:47:12]: For a safe bill. There there is a ratio, um [0:47:13, 0:47:18]: You don't you don't have you don't have to mention that. Um I just wanted to [0:47:18, 0:47:22]: To throw that out and basically I'm just trying to get a picture of [0:47:22, 0:47:27]: where we are uh halfway in the year and even though twenty twenty one [0:47:28, 0:47:29]: I know um [0:47:29, 0:47:32]: you know, um businesses and building [0:47:32, 0:47:40]: It's probably a little slow as well. I I don't think we have really recovered in twenty twenty one, so it may not be [0:47:40, 0:47:45]: Um a good picture and I'm sure we're hoping for better things in twenty twenty two. [0:47:46, 0:47:49]: Uh, but I just want to sort of highlight that because that has been [0:47:49, 0:47:57]: Um a concern of mine an issue for me as far as uh what we take in uh in permitting. [0:47:58, 0:48:00]: And I just wanted to highlight that so [0:48:01, 0:48:03]: Uh three ninety seven. [0:48:03, 0:48:04]: One fifty. [0:48:04, 0:48:05]: Yeah. [0:48:06, 0:48:07]: So that sort of gives me that and [0:48:08, 0:48:10]: We'll see what the second half brings in. [0:48:10, 0:48:13]: Exactly. And I and I can I can get you some um [0:48:13, 0:48:16]: Comparison numbers, uh [0:48:17, 0:48:20]: I can probably send you those uh because I know. [0:48:21, 0:48:25]: Normally a lot of your construction is is done during May, June, July. [0:48:26, 0:48:27]: And um [0:48:28, 0:48:29]: In forest July. [0:48:30, 0:48:31]: There is there is like [0:48:32, 0:48:33]: Even with um [0:48:34, 0:48:35]: Other uh revenue. [0:48:35, 0:48:36]: Categories. [0:48:37, 0:48:39]: There's a lot of pick up in July. [0:48:40, 0:48:42]: You're just not showing here because this is [0:48:42, 0:48:44]: We're just looking at the first six months. [0:48:44, 0:48:47]: But in July a lot of things start picking up July and August. [0:48:48, 0:48:51]: Uh Mr. Knighting, did you want to comment on this while we're here? [0:48:53, 0:49:00]: Yeah, just that um probably I think I understand what you're what you're trying to see is the comparison between comparable [0:49:00, 0:49:06]: comparable times for this year and last year and we probably need to run a report to do that also with the revenue breakdown as well. [0:49:07, 0:49:12]: I think I understand your question. We probably have to run a report just to provide that information to you. I think [0:49:13, 0:49:18]: With permitting, it's it's interesting to see how things are going to evolve over the next portion of the year. [0:49:19, 0:49:26]: Um, especially with uh you know looking at some of the subdivisions that we may have had last year versus this year. [0:49:26, 0:49:29]: That were coming online, in particular like Winding Creek, for instance. [0:49:30, 0:49:35]: you know, we had a pretty big subdivision there. Um and you know, one I think one or two others [0:49:35, 0:49:42]: But we could run a specific report that compares more a more detailed dive into the permitting aspect. [0:49:42, 0:49:44]: And a comparison from this year to last year. [0:49:45, 0:49:48]: And and one reason I wanted to highlight this because in the um [0:49:49, 0:49:54]: In the last report of the audit, uh, it was stated that even with the [0:49:54, 0:49:59]: uh entities like the amphitheater and the uh cultural arts. [0:49:59, 0:50:02]: That they may not make a profit. [0:50:02, 0:50:03]: Um [0:50:03, 0:50:07]: themselves, but that is a residual. [0:50:08, 0:50:11]: Афект, і фівіл, а соціаль афект. [0:50:11, 0:50:20]: uh with this kind of entity where you may not see it directly with the cultural arts, but it is a uh catalyst. [0:50:20, 0:50:30]: to boost other entities uh within your uh in in your city. So you see that that profit, if you will. [0:50:30, 0:50:38]: uh in these other areas and as well as what you provide to your citizens, oftentimes you can't put a [0:50:38, 0:50:46]: money value on that, but we know that it is an asset and it is a value to your community and to your city. [0:50:47, 0:50:52]: Right. There are economic generators that have other impacts throughout the city and of course [0:50:52, 0:50:58]: You know, we we uh have an eye and vision for uh development and redevelopment in certain specific areas. [0:50:58, 0:51:01]: That of course we've talked about collectively. [0:51:01, 0:51:05]: and uh putting some uh planning measures in place to facilitate that type of [0:51:05, 0:51:07]: Of growth and development, that's correct. [0:51:08, 0:51:10]: All right, I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. [0:51:10, 0:51:13]: No problem. Any other questions? Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. Any other questions? [0:51:14, 0:51:15]: Uh okay, Mr. Wiggins, please continue. [0:51:20, 0:51:24]: Okay, for the reports, the analysis, the general fund. [0:51:24, 0:51:26]: Mid year revenue. [0:51:26, 0:51:28]: Analysis compared to last year. [0:51:28, 0:51:30]: Revenues increase about [0:51:31, 0:51:35]: Hundred and twenty seven thousand eight thirty four. That's about sixteen percent. [0:51:36, 0:51:38]: A lot of these comparisons are coming from [0:51:42, 0:51:48]: From this particular um report here, statements and expenditures, all funds. [0:51:51, 0:51:55]: A local option sales tax increased about ninety one thousand three hundred forty. [0:51:56, 0:52:00]: That's about eighteen percent from twenty twenty, which was [0:52:00, 0:52:01]: Okay. [0:52:02, 0:52:03]: Four hundred and twelve. [0:52:03, 0:52:07]: thousand five or two to twenty twenty one. [0:52:07, 0:52:08]: Which [0:52:08, 0:52:09]: Which is at five or three. [0:52:10, 0:52:12]: eight forty two and both of those amounts are coming from [0:52:13, 0:52:14]: The month of June. [0:52:15, 0:52:18]: Um right now with the loss we're averaging about [0:52:19, 0:52:21]: Four hundred and sixty thousand dollars a month. [0:52:24, 0:52:25]: Franchise tax. [0:52:26, 0:52:28]: Increased about three thousand and twelve. [0:52:29, 0:52:31]: Well, it's about seven percent. [0:52:32, 0:52:34]: From twenty twenty it was forty one thousand. [0:52:34, 0:52:36]: Five hundred and fifty five. [0:52:36, 0:52:37]: Yeah. [0:52:37, 0:52:38]: Yes, sir. [0:52:39, 0:52:42]: Mr. Wiggins, I think some of the times we get caught up in the jargon. [0:52:42, 0:52:44]: Explain what lost is. [0:52:45, 0:52:48]: Lost your your local option sales tax. [0:52:48, 0:52:49]: That is the [0:52:50, 0:52:52]: That that is a collection of uh [0:52:52, 0:52:53]: You see the test there. [0:52:54, 0:52:55]: comes from um [0:52:56, 0:52:57]: The county. [0:52:57, 0:53:00]: when they collect the the sales tax from um [0:53:00, 0:53:02]: All of the um [0:53:03, 0:53:05]: The um the vendors and all [0:53:05, 0:53:08]: All the all of the department stores and all the grocery stores they [0:53:09, 0:53:12]: All all all of the entities that all of your businesses. [0:53:12, 0:53:14]: Be clear. Uh uh sorry. [0:53:14, 0:53:21]: Right. I certainly understand that myself. But I want to make sure we when we're talking to the public, they understand what we're talking about. [0:53:21, 0:53:24]: Everybody on this panel knows what lost is, but [0:53:24, 0:53:26]: Uh the public may not lose. So we [0:53:26, 0:53:29]: Well make sure when we're using jargon we explain what it is. [0:53:30, 0:53:30]: Okay. [0:53:34, 0:53:36]: As of mid year. [0:53:36, 0:53:37]: Spinatures [0:53:38, 0:53:42]: Our over revenue about forty five thousand nine oh nine. [0:53:42, 0:53:43]: That's uh monthly. [0:53:44, 0:53:45]: And [0:53:45, 0:53:47]: That was for the month of June. [0:53:47, 0:53:48]: And uh [0:53:49, 0:53:51]: The year today was nine hundred and ten. [0:53:52, 0:53:54]: thousand two hundred and twenty four. [0:53:55, 0:53:56]: Revenues are short by [0:53:57, 0:53:59]: One point three milyen. [0:53:59, 0:54:00]: And that's one of [0:54:01, 0:54:02]: From the budget if you [0:54:03, 0:54:07]: If you uh look at how much between January and June. [0:54:08, 0:54:11]: Right now our revenue collection should [0:54:11, 0:54:12]: Supposed to be [0:54:12, 0:54:14]: Six point four million. [0:54:16, 0:54:17]: But compared to actual [0:54:18, 0:54:20]: Which is our actuals, which is five million. [0:54:21, 0:54:23]: Oh seventy nine thousand one seventy two. [0:54:24, 0:54:25]: Yeah. [0:54:25, 0:54:26]: You go right, please. [0:54:26, 0:54:33]: Uh, understanding that we're what the the numbers are kinda out of balance and they work that way until we [0:54:34, 0:54:37]: Колекти проти, за бій болк. [0:54:37, 0:54:54]: uh later on in the year. We don't actually have a property tax ourselves for the city, but we have a an allotment is uh that the county selects for us that would actually put those numbers in proportion. Is that correct? And you you are correct because uh we used to get a lot of our um [0:54:54, 0:54:56]: revenue between um [0:54:57, 0:54:58]: uh in the October [0:54:59, 0:55:01]: November and December, which would [0:55:01, 0:55:03]: Which always brings up our revenue a lot. [0:55:04, 0:55:05]: The end of the year. [0:55:06, 0:55:07]: This is a little slow. [0:55:09, 0:55:11]: During the first six months. [0:55:13, 0:55:16]: Uh, the general fund mid year expenditure analysis. [0:55:17, 0:55:20]: Just like the revenue compared to last year's expenditure is expense. [0:55:21, 0:55:27]: Expenditures increase about fifty fifty thousand three oh one. That's about six percent. [0:55:28, 0:55:31]: Uh the expenses dispenses is up. [0:55:32, 0:55:35]: Due to consulting fees, legal fees, some [0:55:36, 0:55:41]: Consult consultation of uh consolidation of IT charges. [0:55:41, 0:55:46]: uh security upgrades. We also had to pay um [0:55:46, 0:55:47]: Um [0:55:49, 0:56:01]: on our loan, which we paid a portion in February and as well as August. And then the L the L M I G, LMEG. We also had the um [0:56:02, 0:56:05]: We had to also pay for that for role payton. [0:56:07, 0:56:08]: One [0:56:09, 0:56:10]: Expenditures [0:56:12, 0:56:15]: Or short by three hundred and nine thousand five seventy two. [0:56:17, 0:56:17]: From the budget. [0:56:18, 0:56:20]: Like the revenue which would have been [0:56:21, 0:56:25]: Spending at six million three hundred and seventy nine thousand nine sixty nine. [0:56:26, 0:56:27]: End of June. [0:56:27, 0:56:29]: Compared to the actual, which is five. [0:56:30, 0:56:30]: Which we [0:56:31, 0:56:34]: Actually is five million nine eighty nine. [0:56:34, 0:56:35]: three ninety six [0:56:36, 0:56:40]: Which is a positive, which is pretty good. So we're on the budget as far as expenditures, which is good. [0:56:42, 0:56:46]: Enterprise funds revenue analysis compared to last year. [0:56:46, 0:56:49]: Yeah, the warning and sewer revenue decreased about [0:56:50, 0:56:54]: A hundred and eleven thousand four seventy eight is about seven percent. [0:56:55, 0:56:56]: The stormwater revenue. [0:56:57, 0:57:02]: Increase about twenty four thousand five twenty eight and all this is for [0:57:02, 0:57:04]: The end of uh the month of June. [0:57:04, 0:57:06]: Sanitation revenue decreased about [0:57:08, 0:57:10]: Five hundred and twenty nine thousand seven hundred. [0:57:12, 0:57:14]: That particular um [0:57:15, 0:57:19]: Um that's pretty much normal for us because we usually collect a lot of [0:57:19, 0:57:20]: of the [0:57:21, 0:57:23]: Sanitation revenue. [0:57:23, 0:57:24]: In in [0:57:24, 0:57:27]: In the November and December, and what we would do. [0:57:27, 0:57:28]: Is uh [0:57:29, 0:57:29]: Is uh [0:57:30, 0:57:34]: Deferred this is like it's deferred revenue. So we put it [0:57:34, 0:57:36]: We realize it and we put it well. [0:57:38, 0:57:41]: Is deferred because we we collected in in [0:57:41, 0:57:43]: Twenty twenty and then [0:57:44, 0:57:46]: No, I'm sorry, twenty twenty two. [0:57:46, 0:57:49]: And then we put it back into twenty twenty one. [0:57:49, 0:57:49]: Which [0:57:50, 0:57:50]: Brains it. [0:57:51, 0:57:53]: All back up uh at the end of the year. [0:57:54, 0:57:54]: So [0:57:59, 0:58:05]: I know the numbers uh looks big, but it's it it really goes away at the end of the in in the um end of the year. [0:58:06, 0:58:10]: Enterprise fund expenditure analysis compared to last year the [0:58:10, 0:58:11]: One sewer expenditure. [0:58:12, 0:58:14]: Increased about twenty five thousand forty. [0:58:15, 0:58:15]: Four eighty five. [0:58:16, 0:58:19]: Stormwater expenditures increased about four. [0:58:20, 0:58:23]: thousand four hundred and seventy two and the sanitation decreased about [0:58:23, 0:58:26]: Ninety four thousand. That's usually the um [0:58:27, 0:58:32]: One of the monthly amounts that we put back into the year. So at this particular time, looking at last year. [0:58:33, 0:58:34]: That's the reason why you see that number. [0:58:37, 0:58:38]: The cool gen. [0:58:39, 0:58:49]: The overall the mid-year review is a positive. Many journal general fund revenues are expected to outperform original budget estimate. [0:58:50, 0:58:53]: such as sales tech, and we will see a lot of this going into [0:58:54, 0:58:55]: Some of the [0:58:55, 0:58:56]: Months coming up. [0:58:57, 0:59:00]: We'll continue to work with departments to monitor their expenditures. [0:59:01, 0:59:04]: If the city stays the course and remains fiscally conservative, [0:59:05, 0:59:06]: Next five years. [0:59:07, 0:59:09]: Forecast projects a positive fund balance. [0:59:10, 0:59:11]: for the next year. And I think [0:59:12, 0:59:13]: In your package I included. [0:59:14, 0:59:15]: Uh [0:59:16, 0:59:18]: The forecast that uh [0:59:19, 0:59:22]: Yeah, Mr. Ed Wall and myself and and [0:59:22, 0:59:23]: Mr. Nine. [0:59:23, 0:59:26]: had presented to you earlier, uh, I think last month. [0:59:29, 0:59:32]: And with that, I'm finished with the review. [0:59:32, 0:59:34]: All right, thank you, Mr. Wiggins. Um [0:59:35, 0:59:37]: Mayor Pro Tem, you're unmuted. That means you must have a question for him. [0:59:38, 0:59:46]: I do we've been talking thank you, sir, for acknowledging me. We've been talking about this number uh as far as a budget surplus. [0:59:46, 0:59:50]: for twenty twenty one now that we have this audit. [0:59:50, 0:59:54]: Uh, what were the final numbers that uh of the budget surplus? [0:59:58, 0:59:59]: Coming from twenty twenty. [1:00:00, 1:00:04]: Correct. We've been you initially the projection you gave us was [1:00:04, 1:00:06]: Over two мільйос. [1:00:06, 1:00:11]: uh for a projected surplus. So what did the actual surplus end up being? [1:00:13, 1:00:16]: Well the actual surplus uh I don't have that sheet up. [1:00:17, 1:00:18]: That um [1:00:21, 1:00:23]: Think w it would have been close to to [1:00:23, 1:00:24]: Three point nine, but [1:00:25, 1:00:28]: We had a s the the six milyen dollar um [1:00:28, 1:00:31]: transfer that took away from [1:00:32, 1:00:32]: Um [1:00:33, 1:00:34]: What it would it have been? [1:00:35, 1:00:52]: Because right, but what what basically uh Helder had given us uh was seventeen million bottom line. So we something got us to that seventeen million. So we had to add something to the fund balance with the transactions that we were going on. Can you get that number for us and then bring it back to us? I could put [1:00:52, 1:00:57]: Yeah, you know that it went down from last year from nineteen to seventeen. [1:00:57, 1:01:00]: Right. We spent money, but in the end we end up [1:01:01, 1:01:11]: Uh with seventeen million dollars, even though we spent six million dollars we spent the money for the amphitheater that we set aside and several other projects and we moved forward with the city. [1:01:11, 1:01:13]: We still ended up with seventeen milion. [1:01:14, 1:01:14]: When we spit. [1:01:15, 1:01:16]: More than obviously. [1:01:17, 1:01:19]: The fund balance was very healthy because we spent [1:01:20, 1:01:23]: Way more than two million if we went from seventeen to nineteen. [1:01:23, 1:01:24]: And we spent [1:01:25, 1:01:28]: A lot we spent money on the amphitheater and several of the projects. [1:01:28, 1:01:31]: Okay. Yes, I will I'll get that number for you. [1:01:33, 1:01:34]: Thank you. [1:01:35, 1:01:37]: Else, any other question for Mr. Wiggins? Anyone? [1:01:42, 1:01:47]: Okay, I see none. All right, Miss Wiggins, thank you. Appreciate the presentation. Okay. [1:01:48, 1:01:49]: Thank you. [1:01:51, 1:01:58]: All right, uh Council, what we have now is new business and the Bridges of Judico Multifamily Development Code and Master Plan Amendments. [1:01:59, 1:02:00]: Ms. Johnson, please. [1:02:01, 1:02:09]: Good evening, Mayor, Council members, colleagues, and residents. I'm going to share my screen and we'll jump right in. [1:02:16, 1:02:18]: Now we need to close some of these screens. [1:02:21, 1:02:41]: Okay, just one moment. So while I'm pulling this up, I'll tell you a little bit about the development. Um so Bridges of Jotaco, I'm sure we've all heard of a time or two over the years. And it's practically a 142 plus or minus acre master development in which the [1:02:41, 1:02:59]: Council approved a set of guidelines for to govern how the development will be built out for each of the different pods, which included different types of uses like retail, multifamily, single family, and so on and so forth to create a live workplay. [1:02:59, 1:03:02]: community, what like what we're trying to create in Sackbridge. [1:03:03, 1:03:08]: This particular development is for the purpose of um [1:03:08, 1:03:18]: creating a 14-acre multifamily and mixed-use development. It's proposing 306 units. [1:03:18, 1:03:20]: And um [1:03:20, 1:03:23]: different a different style of multifamily than I think we've seen. [1:03:24, 1:03:27]: All right, I'm gonna try and share my screen one more time. [1:03:41, 1:03:42]: Okay. [1:03:44, 1:03:52]: So, you know, to start, you know, my the community development department, of course, is a department that is [1:03:52, 1:03:54]: set up to support [1:03:55, 1:03:55]: Faster. [1:03:56, 1:03:59]: And administer economic development goals. [1:03:59, 1:04:04]: And in development opportunities that directly benefit the city of Stockbridge. [1:04:04, 1:04:09]: By way of first educating our public, because they have to know what the expectation is. [1:04:09, 1:04:15]: uh managing land development as what we're doing here tonight and also with our UDC. [1:04:15, 1:04:19]: And also issuing permits, licenses. [1:04:20, 1:04:24]: citations as required so that we can maintain what has been built. [1:04:26, 1:04:33]: Again, um just a quick overview of the project details. Uh it's a 306 multifamily apartment unit. [1:04:34, 1:04:45]: There's 6,200 square feet of proposed retail space that is along road B, which we'll see in a few moments. Again, 14 acres, 20 units per acre. [1:04:45, 1:04:59]: And the request here is to update the master plan, to make some adjustments, because there have been some changes to where certain uses would be located based on different market conditions and trends. [1:05:00, 1:05:02]: I what was allowed or [1:05:03, 1:05:07]: proposed in the ordinance when it came out in twenty nineteen. [1:05:07, 1:05:12]: was garden apartments. However, this development is proposing [1:05:12, 1:05:15]: A multi um so three story building. [1:05:15, 1:05:19]: With retail at the corners um to accommodate some. [1:05:20, 1:05:22]: you know, a community commercial uses. [1:05:23, 1:05:25]: Here's the initial [1:05:25, 1:05:27]: Uh master plan. [1:05:27, 1:05:30]: That was approved and it can you guys see my cursor? [1:05:31, 1:05:39]: Yes, we do. Super. So this is the portion here that will be utilized for multi-family and retail. [1:05:40, 1:05:49]: which is somewhat in keeping with the master plan. However, we're flip-flopping the uses because here if you can see under pod D, those are apartment buildings. [1:05:49, 1:05:54]: And instead of apartment buildings, we have um mixed use buildings. [1:05:56, 1:06:03]: So here's the proposed plan. And if you focus your attention, it's a lot going on here, but if you focus your attention to this pod here. [1:06:04, 1:06:07]: This is what I just outlined in the previous slide. [1:06:07, 1:06:12]: And this is where the three hundred and six units will be located with the fifty two. [1:06:12, 1:06:15]: Square foot of retail at these corners. [1:06:16, 1:06:17]: As they abut. [1:06:18, 1:06:23]: This particular major road that runs east-west throughout the overall site. [1:06:24, 1:06:26]: This is a bird's eye view. [1:06:26, 1:06:35]: It's kind of turned on its side, but this is what the parking would look like, how many units we're looking at in each building, so on and so forth. [1:06:36, 1:06:42]: And then here's a a closer idea about where the commercial would be located. [1:06:42, 1:06:46]: At these key locations, because just north of here. [1:06:46, 1:06:51]: Uh, would be proposed the commercial pod, which would be your destination. [1:06:51, 1:06:52]: Retail [1:06:52, 1:06:58]: um shops, hotel, just potential for all types of commercial uses. [1:06:59, 1:07:12]: And I'll just kind of breeze through the building design. This is what is being proposed for this location. Again, three-story building, retail on the bottom floors and on some buildings, but primarily residential. [1:07:14, 1:07:15]: Without with balconies. [1:07:16, 1:07:19]: Here's another angle from the main road. [1:07:20, 1:07:33]: from road B. And then you have your multi-use path that directly abuts the building with street lights and things that are much more modern feel. [1:07:34, 1:07:38]: And here will be the rear of the units, so you'll see what that looks like. [1:07:40, 1:07:45]: And we've got some interior designs that the applicant pro um provided. [1:07:45, 1:07:49]: To show what some of the examples of what the interiors would um look like. [1:07:50, 1:07:53]: I'll just go through these, take a look. [1:07:53, 1:08:00]: As far as tile, as far as accenting, walkways, um [1:08:02, 1:08:05]: And in t other interiors. [1:08:05, 1:08:07]: Countertops, sauces, things like that. [1:08:10, 1:08:16]: And then here's an interior design of the schematic of what it looks like from the floor plan bird's eye. [1:08:18, 1:08:30]: And then I think I mentioned it earlier we have another item for this um items to come forward as a road dedication. So what I'll do at this time is um just uh [1:08:30, 1:08:36]: hand it over to the applicants in case you all have any questions at all or any questions for me. [1:08:37, 1:08:57]: I appreciate that, Becca. Uh note for this, folks. Um uh Vanessa, I just received a uh message from Mr. Blount at 651. His power is out. That is why you don't see him on the screen. And I mentioned this earlier that we're conducting this during a course of a storm. So hopefully the rest of us will be able to uh maintain our power for the rest of the year. [1:08:56, 1:08:59]: rest of the meeting and hopefully you'll be able to come back. [1:08:59, 1:09:15]: So at 651, I received a message, uh, Ms. Holliday, about that. Okay. Now on that note, uh Council, any questions uh for Becca or the or the developer at this point, or we should probably should let the developer go ahead and speak and then we'll probably have questions, I'm pretty sure, at that point. [1:09:16, 1:09:17]: Does that sound good? [1:09:18, 1:09:38]: Mr. Patterson, go ahead please. Sure thing. Thank you, Mayor Ford. Thank you folks again for taking the time here to uh review this project. Sterling and myself are um very excited as as I've shared over the last several um meetings and months uh about getting this. [1:09:38, 1:09:48]: project going, being a part of the City of Stockbridge, and then obviously being the catalyst for um the bridges at Jodico master plan here. [1:09:48, 1:10:05]: I I feel like our our project here that we're proposing is is a mix of urban industrial luxury um and and something that i is not often found um i in um [1:10:05, 1:10:25]: in in certain areas and places. Um I I guess when um it you don't get on the front side of this very often when you're when you get to be the first thing in on a master plan project like this. Um and so I I just can't tell you how excited we are um from from a development group uh to be [1:10:25, 1:10:45]: on the front side of this and be a part of uh Mr. Grant and uh Mr. Hughes's uh master plan development. So um I I know she shared uh Ms. Johnson shared the uh renderings the site plan um I'm I'm happy to answer any questions any comments um as far as [1:10:45, 1:11:02]: the the amenity package, the the units. Our goal here is really to be the the the nicest product in the city of Stockbridge and the the whole south side of Atlanta. So um I I'm open for questions or comments. [1:11:03, 1:11:11]: I think it's an outstanding uh development here, and I'm pretty sure the rest of the council does as well. I look look forward to this and this aspect. But [1:11:11, 1:11:12]: On that note, I'll be quiet. [1:11:13, 1:11:16]: Uh council. Okay, Mayor Protein Alexander, go ahead, please. [1:11:17, 1:11:20]: Yeah, thank you so much, Mr. Patterson. Um [1:11:20, 1:11:23]: Talk about this development in terms of [1:11:23, 1:11:24]: Um [1:11:24, 1:11:29]: it it being best in class product in terms of how [1:11:29, 1:11:33]: Uh even on the schematic you have the parking on the interior. [1:11:33, 1:11:34]: Oh [1:11:34, 1:11:37]: The uh you know and how [1:11:37, 1:11:39]: Progressive that is in terms of [1:11:39, 1:11:42]: uh when you're building it. And I know as you were [1:11:42, 1:11:46]: As we saw the in my in our package and everything, even the stairwells. [1:11:46, 1:11:47]: Or [1:11:48, 1:11:49]: А ажі конселed. [1:11:50, 1:11:54]: uh in actual building design because it is a class A project. [1:11:56, 1:12:16]: That is correct. And and I'm happy to build off that. Thank you, uh, Mayor Pro Tem. Um we uh what we have built and and designed here, I guess I won't say built because we haven't executed it uh just yet, but what what we have designed and the thought behind it is to really create that walkable class A mixed use. [1:12:16, 1:12:36]: project here and product that pushes all of the buildings up to the road and really gives with the with the 10 foot sidewalk uh down the the main spine road and eight foot sidewalks uh around the the rest of the property um it allows you to [1:12:36, 1:12:56]: um uh be compatible with other uses and and also keep all of that parking on the interior side of the property. Nobody wants to drive up and down and and be at a destination and see a bunch of cars um and and parked uh you know out out on the front side they want to see the nice product [1:12:56, 1:13:16]: And they want to see the balconies and the streetscape and all of the uh items that go into making a luxury property. Um, and so really that that's what we've designed to here. Um, and then I think this elevation shows it best. Uh that this is this is what you're gonna see when you're going up and down these [1:13:16, 1:13:22]: roads. Um and and I really again I think it's gonna be a catalyst to really kick off the bridges at Jodico in the right fashion. [1:13:24, 1:13:27]: And and when you talk about being a cattle, it's obviously you're [1:13:27, 1:13:30]: You're com you're making a great investment here. [1:13:31, 1:13:38]: Talk about the overall vision that Mr. Grant has uh discussed with you in terms of uh the project the project filling out. [1:13:40, 1:14:00]: Sure. I I think that um you know e every everything is contingent upon rooftops. You need rooftops, especially when you're creating a destination. Um I I know our project bringing in the three hundred and six multifamily units. Um I know there's a townhome component that is coming short. [1:14:00, 1:14:20]: shortly thereafter um that that Mr. Grant is is working on uh right now solidifying um when when you create that whole um can complexity of all of those families, the the rooftops, the tr transient type of folks that we're going to uh attract. [1:14:20, 1:14:40]: to this property that then breeds a a great um can uh a great set of I guess retailers and people that want to be in this area. You uh w we're we're chasing the top ranks in the market. The the townhomes are going [1:14:40, 1:15:00]: to be uh a very solid product and you're you're going to breed and bring in and attract retailers that are are going to be um you know best in class in my opinion um and so what what we're gonna see is you're gonna see the the rooftops follow each other i believe and then in [1:15:00, 1:15:16]: In the background, all of these people are chomping at the bit to come in here, but they want to see rooftops. And I think this being the catalyst will start that domino effect uh for us to see a bigger plan evolve over the next several years. [1:15:17, 1:15:19]: And my final question is talk about [1:15:19, 1:15:23]: Your company's track record and other projects that you have. [1:15:23, 1:15:27]: Uh partaking in and the outcomes. [1:15:29, 1:15:49]: Certainly. Um our our group, the Sterling Group, uh and then Sterling Development, which is a a um a brand underneath that that larger umbrella has been in business for 40 plus years. Um we are located in 15 states, um, have well over 10,000 apartment units. Um [1:15:49, 1:16:09]: and um are scattered all acrout across the southeast um have been a part of several mixed use opportunities um and and that was why we were selected uh i do believe um on top of our relationships uh that we were able to to build um in in a short time with mr grant and that [1:16:08, 1:16:28]: others, um, but I I believe our ability to execute on those mixed use products um lended our ourself to this. Um and again we we feel like that uh this is an opportunity like no other to be a part of um and want want to invest uh in [1:16:28, 1:16:45]: excess of fifty million dollars uh into this community. And uh, you know, again, we we hope to come back and do more uh if if time and Mr. Grant allows if we if we can get this done. So um I I think that's where we are and we're just really excited to be a part of it. [1:16:47, 1:16:51]: I appreciate it, Mr. Patterson. We're excited to be here as well, sir. Tell you this is great stuff. [1:16:51, 1:16:53]: Really great stuff. Um [1:16:53, 1:16:55]: Council, any other uh comments at all? Anybody else? [1:16:58, 1:17:06]: Okay. Well I didn't want to hog it if nobody else has a question. I got I got Mr. Mr. Barber. Go ahead. Councilwoman Barber. Go ahead, please. [1:17:08, 1:17:12]: I wanted to ask, um, what is the price point or has that been determined yet? [1:17:12, 1:17:32]: It it it has. Um I appreciate the question. Um and let me I'm flipping back through through my notes. So are the the one bedrooms are gonna be in the range of that thirteen to sixteen hundred dollar a month uh range, the two bedrooms will be in the sixteen fifty to eighteen fifty range and then [1:17:32, 1:17:52]: And the threes uh would be in that uh$2,000 range. Um and and also note from a percentage standpoint, um we are we are typically in the 35, 55, uh 35% ones, 55% twos, ten percent threes. Um we're really reaching. [1:17:52, 1:18:12]: and and um marketing to uh transient folks, as I said, uh folks uh that are newer to the area, folks that maybe have a great job but aren't ready to buy a house yet, or um those those types of things. So we're we're lighter on the three bedroom side. [1:18:12, 1:18:32]: Um because we know that impacts schools, we know that does um certain things. Um there there is still a need for it because folks move from out of the area and come in and need a nice place to live and then want to buy a very nice home in your guys' community. Um and so you you still have to have that. [1:18:32, 1:18:40]: But I did I did want to speak to that because I know that was a question uh early on in some of the the meetings uh as far as that breakdown goes. [1:18:42, 1:18:51]: Okay. Uh welcome back, Mr. Blount. Appreciate that. I'm glad you got your power back. Uh Vanessa I had seven oh one when Mr. Blount came back in. [1:18:51, 1:18:53]: Any other further questions for [1:18:53, 1:18:55]: Um Mr. Patterson. [1:18:55, 1:18:56]: At all. [1:18:56, 1:18:58]: I got one more. I'll go right here, sir. [1:18:59, 1:19:07]: Yeah, Mr. Patterson, talk about the timetable. I know you me had uh I guess mentioned that uh there was a closing coming up for the property. [1:19:07, 1:19:27]: There there is. We are working uh with Mr. Grant to uh get everything finalized and be in a position to close this in the next week at at most, uh, which would mean we would close on the land and own the fifteen acres that we're purchasing here um to do this development. Um I anticipate [1:19:27, 1:19:47]: Then uh being in position over the next 30 to 45 days to submit for building permit review, um, and then working through that process and then uh getting obviously building permits, paying all of our fees, and uh, and then being in a position um after that um to [1:19:47, 1:20:07]: To break ground on the on the transaction. Just with everything and the scope of everything, I don't want to start throwing out dates until I have you know a pretty good feel on when we would anticipate breaking ground. I know we will push for the end of the year to get dirt moving. I can't guarantee. [1:20:07, 1:20:18]: guarantee that at this point, but it would be shortly thereafter if we missed uh by the end of the year. Um and and I would be happy to share further dates as we progress uh with Ms. Johnson and her team. [1:20:19, 1:20:29]: And talk about real quick, you you mentioned your financial position and folks always wanna know, you know, the stability of the company. I think you mentioned that this is gonna be a cash transaction. [1:20:30, 1:20:50]: That is correct. We we will uh be taking the land down with uh with cash uh uh that that is uh sterling money and uh and be owning will own the ground and um we'll we'll be pregnant with the transaction uh as far as that goes. And uh again uh to to speak [1:20:50, 1:21:10]: to the public's eye. We the we're not just testing the waters or anything else here. We we're ready to buy this dirt. We uh you know have a million dollars already invested prior to today with our third parties on all architectural, civil uh and and market studies, uh appraisals, all of that good stuff. [1:21:09, 1:21:29]: Um, so we we are fully invested in this project and uh and look forward to executing and again putting a putting a product out there that everybody says, man, have you guys been here yet? Uh because I I really think that's the effect that that's it's going to have on this uh this side of town and this immediate area. [1:21:30, 1:21:33]: And the last thing that I would like to say is I just want to say thank you. [1:21:33, 1:21:38]: Because too often we have developers and we have folks come to the community. [1:21:38, 1:21:44]: And insult us and say, well, this is what's appropriate for your community. This is what we think you deserve. [1:21:45, 1:21:49]: You didn't do that. You brought your A game to the table. So thank you. [1:21:50, 1:22:10]: Well and no, I I appreciate the compliment. And again, th this is what this city deserves right here. And and and I think all the credit really goes to Mr. Grant, um and and Falcon and the people behind the scenes, uh Mr. Knighton, Miss Johnson, Mayor Ford that have have worked to help and create this vision as you [1:22:10, 1:22:28]: folks have as well. I I just know there's a lot of hours and meetings that that are offline that that go into making sure that this is what's in the best interest of this city and everybody here. And so again, we're I I couldn't be more thankful for the opportunity to be a part of it. [1:22:29, 1:22:41]: Great, great great, Mr. Patterson. We're grateful that you're with us as this this well. So this is gonna be be a great partnership, definitely. I I agree. Okay. Okay. If there are no other comments from the council. [1:22:41, 1:22:44]: We'll move on to the next agenda item. [1:22:44, 1:22:59]: And that will be, and of course, Mr. Patterson, you'll be around for a while. Council consideration to approve the extension of and minor revision of moratorium for the acceptance of applications for buildings intended for residential purposes, also known as resolution. [1:22:59, 1:23:00]: Or [1:23:00, 1:23:03]: twenty one dash one two five nine. [1:23:03, 1:23:04]: Mair. [1:23:04, 1:23:05]: Ms. Johnson, please. [1:23:06, 1:23:06]: Yeah, what's up? [1:23:07, 1:23:08]: Yes, sir. [1:23:09, 1:23:15]: Uh is this I just wanted uh m a point of clarification. Ms. Johnson, uh is this w when does the vote come up? [1:23:19, 1:23:20]: Or this item. [1:23:20, 1:23:22]: For the uh [1:23:22, 1:23:26]: of what we had communicated about this yes, this uh this item coming up. [1:23:27, 1:23:47]: Yes, if we can have a motion, that will be. Okay. You know what? Very good point. My my my my fault. My fault. Okay. Very good point. Matter of fact, before we before we do that, I forgot something here. If you forgot something else. We took this off a public off the public uh hearing because it wasn't really necessary. So what I like to ask for, I don't know if anybody's even [1:23:47, 1:23:57]: available or anybody's out in in land uh uh watching whether or not they had any public comments whatsoever. We want to allow that to happen if if need be. It's a little unusual. [1:23:57, 1:24:06]: uh in this aspect. But uh I don't know if uh somehow okay, I guess so we got uh I see here we got uh Mr. Marshall raised his hand. Let's see. [1:24:06, 1:24:08]: How do we uh let him in? [1:24:10, 1:24:11]: Uh [1:24:12, 1:24:18]: Let's see here. Robert will need to upgrade him to a panelist. Yeah. [1:24:18, 1:24:19]: Okay. [1:24:24, 1:24:27]: One clarification. I think Vanessa, actually you may be the host now. [1:24:28, 1:24:32]: Unless I'm the host. Yeah, Mr. Bonds had an emergency. [1:24:32, 1:24:34]: If he had to step away, he had to leave. [1:24:35, 1:24:38]: So if y if you may be Vanessa, I think he said that he [1:24:40, 1:24:41]: Made you the host in his absence. [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: It's like that was very nice of him to do that. [1:24:51, 1:24:52]: Mm. [1:24:53, 1:24:55]: I don't know how let's see here. [1:25:00, 1:25:10]: Mr. Marshall I see Mr. Marshall there. Yeah, I just I just did that. Mr. Marshall Okay, okay. All right. Mayor Pro Tem I appreciate that. Ver very good catch. Mr. Marshall, please unmute yourself, sir. [1:25:14, 1:25:18]: Okay, can you hear me? Yes, sir, we can. Go right in, Pope. Hopefully you can't see me. [1:25:19, 1:25:26]: We can hear you, so go ahead, please. Okay. Uh well first of all let me uh just say that I know we're [1:25:26, 1:25:28]: crunch for time here, but Mr. Patterson, uh [1:25:29, 1:25:31]: My name is Charles Marshall. I'm the president. [1:25:31, 1:25:35]: Of an organization of residents that live within the north central. [1:25:36, 1:25:39]: portion of the county, predominantly in the Eagles Landing area. [1:25:39, 1:25:45]: And the news that you're expressing tonight about trying to get these multi uh [1:25:45, 1:26:03]: uh family units uh put up because you're saying the rooftops may drive the acceleration portion of getting more retail businesses in. You need to know that uh the organization of of uh folks, I don't want to say organization, but the residents that live within the close proximity of [1:26:03, 1:26:10]: uh bridges at Jodico. Uh the median income of these folks is over$100,000. And we're ready to spend that money. [1:26:11, 1:26:16]: I'd like for you to pass it on to Mr. Grant, Mr. Hughes, and we're waiting for this Bridges of Johtoco project. [1:26:16, 1:26:18]: To get off the ground. [1:26:18, 1:26:28]: The uh the the the the the thing about us having to go to the north side to spend dollars on uh at businesses that we can very well have at your location. [1:26:29, 1:26:49]: Uh that needs to end. It needs to end immediately because we're ready to spend money in our home areas. We're ready to support and sustain the businesses that come out there to the bridges at Jodico. And if we get these rooftops going, uh the way that you're describing, if that is the the the uh method to get the businesses to come in. [1:26:49, 1:27:09]: Please let's get this thing going. We want Whole Foods, uh, grocery stores. We want other items coming in on the retail side. And I noticed that you mentioned something about retail businesses being incorporated within these multi-purpose or multi-family uh units. Uh you didn't describe what those retail businesses would be, but uh whatever they are. [1:27:09, 1:27:29]: Or if uh they're open to the community, we'll support those as well. So uh don't want to get into a lot of uh other things that the uh residents in the area are really anxious to see. I think you can probably imagine what they are, but we do have the finances here to support and sustain these businesses that come into our area. Mayor, I thank you for allowing. [1:27:29, 1:27:41]: me to speak tonight. Thank you. No problem. You're welcome, sir. Uh anybody else uh that's uh out there that needed to make a comment any other citizens I see here so let's look at this [1:27:43, 1:27:51]: And it says five one eight six nine three. That's all I have here. You wanted to speak on this issue, please. Go ahead. [1:27:54, 1:27:55]: You muted. [1:28:01, 1:28:04]: Good evening, Mayor Ford. Oh, right here, please. How you doing? [1:28:05, 1:28:12]: Good evening. This is Vivian Thomas and I thank you for letting me speak. Question, and maybe I missed this part of that. [1:28:12, 1:28:14]: But what part? [1:28:14, 1:28:25]: What commercialization is coming with this with this development? I heard him talking a lot about the residential, but did he talk about has he secured? [1:28:26, 1:28:29]: any commercialization to come with this development. [1:28:30, 1:28:50]: Mr. Patterson, can you uh I'm happy I'm happy to answer that. Uh and Mr. Marshall, thank you for the kind words and and believe me, you uh you won't be let down. Nobody in the public will be let down. Uh Mr. Grant and his team, they've really done a nice job. Look, you you can chase the franchise type guys all day. [1:28:50, 1:29:10]: Day long and they would be here in a heartbeat. It's about getting the right people that make it sustainable for the long term for 10 and 15 years and truly creating that destination. So please know that it's it's not falling on deaf ears what everyone wants. We all want the same thing. That's why we're investing this type of [1:29:10, 1:29:30]: of money in the community. Um it it will happen and it will be great when it happens. Um so just know we're we're working very methodically and uh to create that destination and those those first class uh retailers and businesses in this area uh for you guys to be able to utilize. [1:29:30, 1:29:50]: Um and I and I will speak to uh Miss uh Tomlinson. Um we so our our component is going to be a a smaller mixed use. We will not have restaurant in in the bottom of the apartments. That that's gonna be more of a boutique retail type of uh a coffee shop and [1:29:50, 1:30:10]: A uh an attorney's office, an insurance agent, they're going to be mu much smaller pallets that are gonna be complementary to what Mr. Grant and Lincoln Properties and the group that is putting together the retailers that are going to go in. If you're looking at the screen, you'll see the city village. [1:30:10, 1:30:30]: Area which has the yellow, the pond, the uh the peach colored, and the light pink up in the corner, that area will sit across the road from us. And so what we're talking about tonight is the uh black and white area down uh where the mouse is now, um, which we are creating a residential. [1:30:30, 1:30:50]: Component of this overall master plan, which will have some retail in it to be compatible with the overall future plan and vision. So I've not secured tenants for these uh these smaller boutique spaces as we uh move forward. We will do that. Um, but as [1:30:50, 1:30:56]: uh uh again the these these will be more boutique type um [1:30:56, 1:31:16]: compatible to the residential that we're creating. But also if you're over in the city village and you need to stop over and and pick up your dry cleaning or you need to go over and you want to get a cup of coffee because your kids are eating ice cream over in the city village area at a green space or those types of movements are what we hope to create here in [1:31:16, 1:31:17]: [5481.6, 5482.2]: Okay. [1:31:23, 1:31:30]: All right. Uh thank you. Well thank you. Becca, could you uh release un unuse your screen, please? [1:31:33, 1:31:41]: Thank you. Yeah, okay. Is there anybody else um wanna speak? Any citizens out there that need to speak one way or the other in reference to this presentation? [1:31:45, 1:31:50]: Okay, I don't see any. Okay, so we'll go back to the panelists, original panelists. [1:31:51, 1:32:00]: And so now I'm sorry, I need a motion to to accept this proposal that's been brought before the council at this time. So moved. Is there a second? [1:32:01, 1:32:06]: Uh ms Mr. Blount, I saw his hand first, uh second that motion. Any further discussion? [1:32:07, 1:32:08]: And if not all in favor, please indicate. [1:32:09, 1:32:09]: Uh [1:32:10, 1:32:12]: Okay, it's your name's decision. All right. [1:32:12, 1:32:17]: Keep you straight, folks. All right, appreciate it. Mayor Pro Ten. All right. Now we can move on to the next item. [1:32:18, 1:32:33]: Uh council consideration to approve extension of and minor revision of the moratorium for the acceptance of applications for building attended for residential purposes, also known as resolution R21-1259. Ms. Johnson, please. [1:32:34, 1:32:35]: Good evening again. [1:32:36, 1:32:41]: Um so this particular uh request is for an extension of the current moratorium. [1:32:42, 1:32:46]: Uh in January of this year, the council approved for a moratorium. [1:32:47, 1:32:49]: on acceptance of applications for [1:32:50, 1:32:59]: Um, that that were going to have a residential rental purpose. And that meant single family, multifamily, all inclusively. [1:33:00, 1:33:02]: After review of this moratorium. [1:33:03, 1:33:08]: Um and and because it is is going to be ending or is about to end. [1:33:08, 1:33:10]: We wanted to ensure that. [1:33:10, 1:33:17]: Uh, based on the work that we're doing for the Unified Development Code, that we comprehensively address. [1:33:17, 1:33:23]: Specifically, what the intent behind this moratorium was. And what I understand from talking with several of the council members. [1:33:23, 1:33:25]: Staff, of course, Mr. Night. [1:33:26, 1:33:26]: Is that [1:33:27, 1:33:29]: The idea was to [1:33:29, 1:33:31]: Sheep new [1:33:31, 1:33:36]: single family detached subdivisions from coming into the community as rental community. [1:33:37, 1:33:38]: solely rental communities. [1:33:39, 1:33:42]: We want to make sure that we open it b open it up for. [1:33:43, 1:33:51]: Types of development like Mr. Patterson, his team, Jeff Grant are building so that we can allow for multifamily units to be rented. [1:33:52, 1:34:12]: So that's what the revision is. The community development department is requesting the revision for us to address these building and rental purpose buildings to be only for single family detached homes and not a kind of catch-all for all development coming into the city. [1:34:12, 1:34:12]: Mm. [1:34:14, 1:34:17]: So that is what the proposal is today. [1:34:18, 1:34:27]: And we will continue to work towards getting a comprehensive review of our code to address this type of development in our UDC. [1:34:28, 1:34:31]: For the purpose of allowing for other multifamily, however. [1:34:32, 1:34:37]: to not allow for single family subdivisions to be 100% rental communities. [1:34:38, 1:34:39]: I think [1:34:40, 1:34:43]: Thank you. Appreciate that. Mr. Blount, do you have your hand up first? Go ahead, please. [1:34:45, 1:34:46]: You're muted, sir. [1:34:47, 1:34:49]: Yeah, thank you, uh Mayor. [1:34:50, 1:34:53]: Um I would ask the uh council if we could [1:34:53, 1:34:55]: Actually moved to [1:34:56, 1:34:58]: Um continue to uphold. [1:34:59, 1:35:03]: any memoriatoriums have been put in place until the UDC is completed. [1:35:03, 1:35:23]: uh so that it would uh correspond to what the city uh what we want in the city as a as a whole. Uh and we can probably make that motion tonight if the council will, because we need to make sure that the UDC is in in conjunction to what we want. And it and we don't want any more moratoriums to expire in this process. [1:35:23, 1:35:38]: process of developing the UDC. So I would ask this council to uh tonight if we would just go ahead and uh extend whatever moratoriums until uh to put that verbage in until the UDC is continued, uh until it's is completion. [1:35:40, 1:35:45]: All right, any other questions for the council? I mean excuse any other coun questions, council for Ms. Br Johnson, please. [1:35:47, 1:35:57]: Mayor Bro Mayor Potem, go ahead, please. Yeah, there was an ordinance that was written by another jurisdiction, the city of South Fulton, that actually addressed this, that the staff has an opportunity to [1:35:58, 1:36:04]: uh take a look at it and see what they had in place. They were had actually passed something already. Of course. [1:36:04, 1:36:07]: We would want to incorporate this into the ULDC. [1:36:07, 1:36:11]: with a rental cap such as we did with a subdivision. [1:36:11, 1:36:13]: That we place a tw a [1:36:14, 1:36:15]: Twenty percent rent rental cap. [1:36:16, 1:36:17]: on the neighborhood. So [1:36:17, 1:36:19]: It not just [1:36:19, 1:36:22]: the rental subdivision, which we want to make sure that [1:36:22, 1:36:26]: No one does that going forward, but that language will be incorporated. [1:36:26, 1:36:29]: Uh into the ULDC to make sure that [1:36:29, 1:36:32]: Each and every development comply with it. [1:36:34, 1:36:34]: Okay. [1:36:36, 1:36:37]: Ms. Dunsen, do you have [1:36:37, 1:36:38]: Really. [1:36:39, 1:36:43]: Oh um to if I can go to Mr. Um Castleman but um [1:36:45, 1:36:46]: question or comment. [1:36:46, 1:36:51]: Um, so what we've done is is I'm working very closely with Mr. Knight and [1:36:51, 1:36:53]: Um are other directors that [1:36:53, 1:36:57]: you know, any of these codes we partially implement or [1:36:58, 1:37:05]: entirely implement to ensure that we're staying in front of those dates that these moratorium are [1:37:05, 1:37:06]: Expiring [1:37:07, 1:37:09]: And also with our attorneys to ensure that [1:37:10, 1:37:11]: Each of those mortoria. [1:37:12, 1:37:14]: are handled under the UBC. [1:37:14, 1:37:29]: So that's part of what I've made sure that we get to the consultant to address those specifically. And this is one of the reasons why we're bringing this matter. And we'll will continue to bring those matters to extend that moratorium until we can get the UDC. [1:37:29, 1:37:36]: up and running and adopted by this council, which we plan to have to you all in October, in early October. [1:37:37, 1:37:46]: And um Mayor Potem, who's most certainly will look at city of South Fulton and uh look at, you know, like as you said, best practices so we can address [1:37:47, 1:37:59]: how we need to handle these types of developments within our city and how it needs to be stated legally within our code to uphold our quality of life here in the city of Stockbridge. [1:38:00, 1:38:02]: Okay, Councilman Thomas, you had a question, sir. [1:38:04, 1:38:16]: Well yes, thank you, Mayor. I actually um Mrs. Johnson sort of spoke to that because I thought of also favor uh the sentiment of uh Councilman Blount and I was gonna ask Mrs. Johnson. [1:38:16, 1:38:19]: uh to to come on that comment on that and what she did. [1:38:20, 1:38:22]: And I'm assuming, uh, Mr. Blount that [1:38:22, 1:38:23]: Um [1:38:23, 1:38:31]: A motion may be in order for us to to actually to do that, even though I think Mrs. Johnson sort of confirmed that. [1:38:31, 1:38:34]: That is the way that we should go. Is that correct, Mrs. Johnson? [1:38:35, 1:38:37]: And that's correct. So we have [1:38:37, 1:38:45]: Currently, four, I wanna say three to four mortoya in place. One was just updated with hookah bar, cigar bars, and [1:38:46, 1:38:58]: April and a few others that are still under the moratorium frame. Or there have been ordinances written to address those specifically because that's the with the moratoria, it's [1:38:58, 1:39:02]: for the purpose of coming up with an ordinance that'll govern that particular [1:39:02, 1:39:03]: Issue or [1:39:04, 1:39:04]: I don't. [1:39:05, 1:39:17]: And if the ordinance is updated, then of course we'll take a look at that. And as we kind of swoop it into the UDC, we'll make sure it's still according to the intent of the council. [1:39:18, 1:39:21]: So councilman Blount, if you wanted to make that motion. [1:39:21, 1:39:23]: uh inclusive [1:39:23, 1:39:30]: of this um rental issue, uh I I wouldn't have any problem in second or voting in favor of that. [1:39:31, 1:39:34]: Well then I'll just go ahead and make the motion that a motion that we [1:39:35, 1:39:45]: Um, that we can keep all moratoriums inclusive with the uh rental agreement and all other matters pertaining to the UDC until its completion. [1:39:46, 1:39:47]: Um [1:39:47, 1:39:50]: That all memoriatoriums be um [1:39:51, 1:39:51]: Um [1:39:52, 1:39:57]: uh I guess uh um reactivated at at the time's expiration. [1:39:58, 1:40:02]: I seven and the reason I'm saying that is because [1:40:03, 1:40:18]: There are times when s I don't I don't want a hundred and eighty days or something to split through the cracks with us and then now we gotta grandfather somebody in and we find ourselves in a situation that we almost found ourselves in. So I that's that's why I'm saying that it it would [1:40:19, 1:40:21]: It would be until the UDC is completed. [1:40:23, 1:40:26]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to uh second Councilman Blount's motion. [1:40:26, 1:40:36]: Okay, fantastic. Appreciate it. Uh any further discussion, council? Motion's been made and seconded. No further discussion. All in favor, please indicate. Mr. Mayor. [1:40:36, 1:40:36]: Hi. [1:40:37, 1:40:39]: Uh yes, sir. [1:40:40, 1:40:45]: Mr. Nightmare. [1:40:45, 1:40:51]: trying to obtain here. I just want to make sure that we're okay per our attorneys of doing it this way. [1:40:52, 1:40:53]: All right. [1:40:55, 1:40:57]: Uh Jeremy, you were going to speak Sugway, sir. [1:40:57, 1:41:01]: Yes, thank you. I mean th there needs to be a definite duration. [1:41:02, 1:41:08]: Um so if we're gonna say, you know, when the UDC is passed, then that would be the end. [1:41:08, 1:41:11]: Of the when the UDC is approved by council. [1:41:11, 1:41:16]: then that would be the the end date of the moratorium. But there needs to be a definite, not a [1:41:16, 1:41:18]: You know, until further notice. [1:41:20, 1:41:21]: Okay. [1:41:21, 1:41:22]: Mr. Thomas Gray, please, sir. [1:41:23, 1:41:28]: Um, Mrs. Johnson, as you will recall, you know, we had a conversation earlier today. [1:41:29, 1:41:32]: I I know when that agenda item comes up. [1:41:32, 1:41:38]: I I think that um that deadline will be included in that conversation. [1:41:38, 1:41:39]: I I don't want to [1:41:41, 1:41:43]: You know, go out before you had opportunity. [1:41:44, 1:41:46]: to talk about that, but there is a [1:41:46, 1:41:48]: Proposed date. [1:41:48, 1:41:52]: That the uh unified development code would be [1:41:52, 1:41:57]: Uh submitted for approval and I guess that would be the day. [1:41:57, 1:42:00]: Uh Mrs. Johnson, uh would you wanna speak to that now? [1:42:01, 1:42:03]: Most certainly. So Councilman Thomas. [1:42:04, 1:42:14]: Um in in conjunction with what the attorney has stated, um, the definite date that we have for our new schedule, and we'll talk about this in one of the upcoming items. [1:42:14, 1:42:26]: is to have the final deliverables and everything approved by the city council um on October 26th. But to be safe to set it for October 31st and that would cover [1:42:27, 1:42:30]: Um the planning commission review and [1:42:30, 1:42:42]: uh recommendation and then the city council's final decision. Um we will meet with you guys about different sections and address your specific concerns between that time. [1:42:43, 1:42:47]: So um we most certainly can can set that as the day if that's the will of the council. [1:42:48, 1:42:52]: Well, mayor with that motion, if we could just add that date in, is that's uh [1:42:53, 1:42:56]: Recommend but I just don't want that date. [1:42:56, 1:43:07]: to um conflict with any other dates or memoriatorium that would already go past that. And that's what I'm concerned about on that, uh, Mr. Berry. Um [1:43:07, 1:43:12]: So I I guess the you would have to reach out to the council and let us know of any [1:43:13, 1:43:18]: um expiration of memorial terms that would exceed that date. And I don't want to cut [1:43:18, 1:43:23]: a memorial month until we've uh d develop any ordinances or whatever we need to put in place. [1:43:24, 1:43:27]: Uh, in conjunction with what is gonna be going on with the UDC. [1:43:30, 1:43:37]: All right. So um so you're willing to say you amend your motion to have the thirty first of October in in uh part of that motion? [1:43:38, 1:43:41]: Um I would make it a motion to [1:43:41, 1:43:42]: Revisit [1:43:42, 1:43:51]: that this would uh all moratoriums are to stay in place along with everything what's discussed and uh and to be revisited. Uh [1:43:51, 1:43:52]: Um [1:43:52, 1:44:06]: whatever meeting comes around October 31st, that I just don't want us making a motion to conflict with any uh any time length on any moratorium that's already in place. So I'll put the date of October the 31st in there. [1:44:06, 1:44:09]: А for us to revisit uh [1:44:09, 1:44:10]: Um [1:44:10, 1:44:12]: Whatever need this council needs to revisit. [1:44:13, 1:44:21]: If I may, uh mayor, if I may. Yeah, go ahead. The way that the the moratorium are written is [1:44:22, 1:44:30]: Either the moratorium expires the on a particular 120 days, 180 days, whatever, or the date. [1:44:30, 1:44:33]: when the UDC is approved, whichever comes first. [1:44:34, 1:44:46]: So those that verbiage is in each of the moratorium guidelines. So if if anything, there are moratoriums that expire after that date, we'll still be within our right to be able to move forward. [1:44:46, 1:44:50]: Because it's covered under whichever comes first. And in this case. [1:44:51, 1:44:55]: If there are any that are outside of October 31st, it would be handled. [1:44:56, 1:44:57]: uh prior to that time. [1:44:58, 1:45:01]: Okay, well I'm fine with putting that October thirty first date in there. Um [1:45:03, 1:45:03]: All right. [1:45:04, 1:45:12]: All right, great. Miss Holliday, I'm gonna come back to you there to what do you have for a motion, a revised motion, so we'll make sure we understand exactly what we're voting on. [1:45:12, 1:45:18]: Okay, so I have a motion. This is what the original was, was to keep all moratoriums inclusive. [1:45:18, 1:45:22]: And all other matters until the completion of the UDC. [1:45:23, 1:45:29]: in place until the expiration, but I think we're we're moving in place until the expiration. [1:45:30, 1:45:31]: And including [1:45:32, 1:45:35]: the expire expiration or the UDC. [1:45:36, 1:45:38]: completion date, whichever comes first. [1:45:39, 1:45:41]: I think the thirty first has to be in there somewhere, I believe. [1:45:43, 1:45:51]: 31st of October, I thought. We have to put a specific date in there for uh our turning. So that's why we said October 31st. [1:45:53, 1:45:56]: Do I add to that breakup by October thirty first? [1:45:57, 1:46:03]: I I think I'll be Jeremy is that no later than or something. No later than, okay. [1:46:06, 1:46:16]: Okay, Miss Ollie, when you're done with that, could you go through one more time to make sure the individual, which is Mr. Blount that's doing this motion at that wiki and everybody else understands exactly what we're voting on for. [1:46:17, 1:46:20]: Right, so the motion to keep all moratoriums inclusive. [1:46:21, 1:46:23]: And all other matters until [1:46:24, 1:46:27]: The expiration of the moratorium or [1:46:29, 1:46:35]: The UDC, whichever comes first, no later than October thirty first, twenty twenty one. [1:46:37, 1:46:40]: Is that acceptable, Mr. Blount? Is that acceptable mo a motion for you? [1:46:40, 1:46:41]: Mr. Berry? [1:46:42, 1:46:49]: Yes. Say to me, thank you. Mr. Barrett the the the uh object of the motion was to make to ensure [1:46:50, 1:46:53]: Uh so I don't want to put until they is if if any [1:46:54, 1:46:59]: Any uh are expiring prior to the uh ten thirty-one. [1:46:59, 1:47:06]: then that would be that then that would be allowed. I I want the verbiage to read that it [1:47:07, 1:47:27]: that these memor this more moratorium is in place uh not until or or until they expire if it's prior to October 31st. I want us to revisit October 31st. And if anything expires prior to that, then it's it's not an expiration until October 31st. You see what I'm saying? The way it's [1:47:27, 1:47:35]: Reading now, anything that expires prior to October 31st will be inclusive to do to move remove themselves. [1:47:36, 1:47:39]: Okay, let me make sure I'm clear. The [1:47:40, 1:47:43]: Right, if we need to extend another moratorium. [1:47:43, 1:47:49]: Then I think that has to be done separately. It can't be done as part of this moratorium. It would need to be done separately. [1:47:50, 1:47:53]: So it's sort of point one. Point two is if we set a fixed date of [1:47:54, 1:47:56]: No later than October thirty first. [1:47:57, 1:47:59]: Or until the UDC [1:47:59, 1:48:03]: Uh you know, the the council adopts the UDC, whichever occurs first. [1:48:04, 1:48:05]: But it [1:48:05, 1:48:15]: I think what you're saying correctly is we need to extend all moratoria so they align with when council adopts the UDC, correct? Yes. Yes. Correct. Okay. Yes. Then we need to do that. Then the homework [1:48:16, 1:48:24]: For us and working with uh the clerk and with Ms. Johnson, and we'll just figure all those out. And if we need to come back to the council and extend moratoria. [1:48:25, 1:48:27]: So they all properly align, we can do that. [1:48:28, 1:48:28]: Okay. [1:48:30, 1:48:34]: Well I'm good with the most. You go with the most. Okay. [1:48:34, 1:48:36]: Then is there a sec is there a second to the motion? [1:48:36, 1:48:41]: I second. Mm Mr. Thomas seconds that motion once again. Any further discussion? [1:48:42, 1:48:44]: If not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:48:45, 1:48:46]: Uh [1:48:46, 1:48:49]: Okay, so she now. So appreciate it. Thank you very much. [1:48:49, 1:48:50]: Okay. Um [1:48:52, 1:49:02]: Council consideration to approve a request for road B, Argento Drive, dedication to the city of Stockbridge, Bridges of Joe Code Development. Ms. Johnson, please. [1:49:04, 1:49:06]: Absolutely. Back again. [1:49:06, 1:49:11]: All right, so I'm gonna jump on over to the road dedication. Bear with me. [1:49:12, 1:49:13]: Okay, so [1:49:13, 1:49:16]: If you look at the rendering that's on your screen now. [1:49:17, 1:49:21]: You'll see that at the very north end is Jodeco Road. [1:49:22, 1:49:25]: And then I seventy five is right here. [1:49:25, 1:49:29]: The project before us is just south. [1:49:29, 1:49:39]: of this hard um yellow line. So the project is here. This is road B, which also is called Argento Drive. [1:49:40, 1:49:42]: And there's requests for it to be [1:49:42, 1:49:44]: Um dedicated to the city. [1:49:46, 1:49:56]: Um, from time to time, we do have roads that are dedicated to the city after they've been built. And there are bonds, performance and maintenance or otherwise. [1:49:57, 1:49:58]: To ensure that [1:49:59, 1:50:03]: Once the development gets in place, those roads are brought up to current standards. [1:50:04, 1:50:05]: So [1:50:06, 1:50:11]: Um, we're working with the applicants. Of course, there is a process for road dedication on the administrative side. [1:50:12, 1:50:15]: But in any role dedication, of course, it would need to be. [1:50:16, 1:50:21]: uh approved by the city council. Um I don't know, Deshes, did you have anything to to [1:50:21, 1:50:22]: Yeah. [1:50:23, 1:50:25]: No, I don't, Mr. Lusson. [1:50:25, 1:50:26]: Not at this time. [1:50:29, 1:50:31]: So they're just some different [1:50:31, 1:50:46]: um aspects of what you can see. The road is currently built on this west side the east side, but it's an east-west um road that will traverse this north-south four lane that the state is building. [1:50:47, 1:50:49]: And there have been conversations about [1:50:50, 1:50:55]: what needs to happen next and how we can ensure that it's brought up to par. [1:50:55, 1:50:58]: So we do have Falcon. [1:50:58, 1:51:06]: Um consultants on the line if they'd like to add anything else, or if you have questions, if the council has questions for them, they can answer those. [1:51:08, 1:51:16]: All right, well I tell you what, I have an initial question and uh is that when you say dedicated, that means the city has full responsibility of maintaining the road anyway, is that correct? [1:51:16, 1:51:26]: Yes, at a certain point. Um but the performance bonds and maintenance bonds are put in place to ensure that once the developers come in and [1:51:26, 1:51:28]: crack up all the sidewalks and the road to build. [1:51:29, 1:51:33]: that they go back in and and add those sidewalks in correctly. [1:51:33, 1:51:38]: make sure that the roads have that top coat and are ready to ready to um traverse. [1:51:39, 1:51:50]: So eventually all the roads would be dedicated in a sense of stop bridge since it's inside the city limits of stop bridge, other outside of what roads maybe surround the aquatic center whenever it's built, I'm assuming. [1:51:52, 1:52:02]: I am I can't give you a hundred percent decision on that. Um this is the road in question tonight. There may be some interior roles that'll be private, privatized, I I would imagine. [1:52:02, 1:52:10]: But outside of that, um as each development starts to build out similar to this development here, and this one comes out and [1:52:10, 1:52:13]: We start talking about these other roads south of the property. [1:52:13, 1:52:19]: then uh we would bring each one of these back to the city council for uh for adoption. [1:52:19, 1:52:24]: All right, and Argento Drive. Out of curiosity. Okay. [1:52:24, 1:52:29]: Who came up with that name or how did it come about coming up with that name? Just a curiosity question. [1:52:29, 1:52:33]: I think Jeff Brandt can speak to that. He's smiling our John. [1:52:33, 1:52:40]: I can I can answer that breakfast. John, Council Design. Mayor Council, how are you? It's good to see you again tonight. [1:52:40, 1:52:41]: Okay, great. Um [1:52:42, 1:52:43]: So Argento [1:52:43, 1:52:52]: Going back a little bit from the presentation uh previously, Argento is the name of the community that Clint Patterson was just talking about. [1:52:53, 1:52:59]: And the main entrance for this uh for his community is off of this drive. [1:53:00, 1:53:05]: So uh we thought it would be appropriate since they're helping kick off the uh Judiko Town Center. [1:53:06, 1:53:11]: uh community we thought it would be appropriate for for this road to be named Argento Drive. [1:53:11, 1:53:12]: Uh which [1:53:12, 1:53:16]: first community within the Jotico project. So that's where it came from. [1:53:16, 1:53:16]: Okay. [1:53:17, 1:53:22]: All right. And and just to add some color to that, w so our property will be [1:53:22, 1:53:27]: um our are gento at the bridges uh in and our argento [1:53:27, 1:53:32]: um stands for a form of of sterling silver, uh which then [1:53:32, 1:53:36]: falls back to the Sterling group and and a couple of different things. So [1:53:36, 1:53:42]: That is a brand that we use um throughout our our new developments uh throughout the South East. [1:53:43, 1:53:49]: Okay. Thank you. Council, any further questions for Ms. Johnson or John Palmer? [1:53:49, 1:53:50]: Or even Clint. [1:53:52, 1:53:53]: Nothing additional from me, sir. [1:53:55, 1:54:03]: All right. If there are no other questions and I guess need a motion to accept uh this uh proposal uh to accept this road. [1:54:04, 1:54:11]: So moved. Is there a Ms. Barber so moved? Is there a second? Second. Ms. Gantt seconds there's further discussion. [1:54:11, 1:54:13]: And if not, all in favor please syndicate. [1:54:14, 1:54:15]: All right. [1:54:15, 1:54:19]: Okay. And I would say that's a unanimous decision on that then. Okay. [1:54:20, 1:54:22]: Fantastic. Thank you, uh Ms. Uh Johnson. [1:54:23, 1:54:29]: Council consideration to approve consultant services for the preparation of the UDC Unified Development Code. [1:54:30, 1:54:34]: Presented by Miss Miller and Miss Johnson. Ladies, please. [1:54:34, 1:54:43]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Um, and thank you so much for this opportunity. The Community Development Department is requesting City Council's approval. [1:54:43, 1:54:46]: To renew the term contract uh with UDC. [1:54:47, 1:54:48]: Sorry, with um [1:54:48, 1:54:54]: Yes, for RFP number twenty twenty zero zero zero six for the record consultant services. [1:54:55, 1:55:14]: For the preparation of the unified development code with the collaborative firm LLC. The contract renewal will allow the consultant and community development, as um talked about a little earlier, staff to thoroughly review the UDC sections, including the downtown area design guidelines, set up appropriate meetings. [1:55:14, 1:55:17]: with the planning commission and city council members to obtain [1:55:17, 1:55:26]: input and make revisions and to prepare an updated official zoning map as an ultra ultra act, I'm sorry, interactive digital. [1:55:26, 1:55:42]: um system and um the attached revised UDC project schedule was also included which as mentioned by uh Brecker earlier uh will um go through October 31st and at this point I'll ask uh Brecker to go ahead and take over. [1:55:44, 1:55:46]: Thank you, Miss Miller. So [1:55:46, 1:55:49]: Yes, we have set up for [1:55:49, 1:55:52]: There to be additional review by staff. [1:55:52, 1:55:58]: Uh, with our planning commission. We want to meet with them separately to address some of any of their concerns regarding. [1:55:59, 1:56:15]: code changes and the same also with the city council. So we're building in a little bit of a buffer to address downtown design guidelines. Sign code, of course, that was part of the original contract. [1:56:15, 1:56:18]: As is the downtown guidelines. [1:56:18, 1:56:21]: And also we're going to be looking at [1:56:22, 1:56:31]: our zoning map, getting our our virtual zoning map back online. And that's gonna take a little bit of of time and gotta bring in a couple of consultants to get that up and running. [1:56:32, 1:56:34]: Because we want to also when we [1:56:34, 1:56:42]: When the there's adoption of the unified development code, we also want to have a new an official zoning map to adopt as well. [1:56:42, 1:56:44]: with either new districts. [1:56:44, 1:56:47]: Um and or new information. [1:56:47, 1:56:51]: So that we can get along the path of making that map. [1:56:51, 1:57:04]: interactive and digital online so that folks can go in, our customers can go in, put in an address or a parcel ID number and be able to pull up that property information with the owner. [1:57:04, 1:57:10]: with um addition the zoning and other additional information such as such as those things. [1:57:10, 1:57:30]: So we're kind of slowing slowing things down. I thought it was prudent to do that to make sure that, you know, my coming in kind of third, fourth quarter of this process to make sure that we're covering all the basis that we have outlined for our consultant to to manage. And of course, as a city, it's our [1:57:31, 1:57:34]: Um, charge to ensure that [1:57:34, 1:57:42]: we the the consultant has done what they need to do. And if there are changes that need to be made, we identify those and provide those back to them to make those changes. [1:57:44, 1:57:46]: Great. Uh council, any questions for the ladies here? [1:57:47, 1:57:48]: Concerns. [1:57:49, 1:57:50]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:57:50, 1:57:55]: Uh yes, uh again, Mrs. Johnson, I just want to thank you. [1:57:55, 1:57:59]: uh for meeting with me today to to to discuss this issue [1:58:00, 1:58:04]: What I want to be clear about again, cause in hearing [1:58:05, 1:58:07]: This as Mrs. Miller presented it. [1:58:08, 1:58:10]: And I do understand that. [1:58:11, 1:58:11]: Maybe [1:58:12, 1:58:14]: Extension, even though I heard renewal. [1:58:16, 1:58:22]: I'll rather use the word somewhat of an extension and you explain it that you want the opportunity. [1:58:23, 1:58:25]: to be able to review [1:58:26, 1:58:27]: And to make sure that [1:58:28, 1:58:32]: uh all inclusive everything that needs to be done. [1:58:32, 1:58:36]: And the submital uh propos date. [1:58:37, 1:58:40]: It's still October. [1:58:40, 1:58:41]: So [1:58:42, 1:58:45]: Would you explain to the council that we are not talking about [1:58:46, 1:58:47]: A new [1:58:48, 1:58:49]: Contract. [1:58:50, 1:58:52]: That's going to go into [1:58:52, 1:59:01]: 2022. And if that if if that is the case, then it will come back to council anyway. But but in this particular agenda item. [1:59:02, 1:59:04]: uh we use the word renew [1:59:05, 1:59:09]: But just please explain that we are not talking about a new [1:59:09, 1:59:10]: One year [1:59:10, 1:59:11]: Contract. [1:59:12, 1:59:14]: That the Sumirdo proposed a [1:59:14, 1:59:17]: It's still uh October. [1:59:18, 1:59:20]: Thank you, Gosman Thomas. So [1:59:20, 1:59:40]: Yes, the the extension is just that. We're extending the time frame where we would utilize consultant services. So the calendar that was set up originally, we've kind of bumped out some dates in order to build in meetings internally, build in additional time for staff. [1:59:40, 1:59:43]: to review and there's no additional [1:59:44, 2:00:02]: Fiscal impact. There are no additional dollars that are added into this renewal at all or this extension. Um, we want to just ensure that we were following the procurement procedures for how to do this type of thing when a contract uh it does officially expire. And that was the [2:00:02, 2:00:06]: the course of track that we need to be on in order. [2:00:06, 2:00:12]: to move forward with ex bumping out that timeframe for that that deadline of the initial contract. [2:00:13, 2:00:15]: Is that does that answer your question, sir? [2:00:16, 2:00:23]: Yes, yes. Uh and I appreciate you for making that clear for me earlier, but I I just wanted uh to say that for the record because [2:00:24, 2:00:26]: The way it is read. [2:00:27, 2:00:30]: And the way that the supporting documents indicate. [2:00:31, 2:00:33]: That it is a new [2:00:33, 2:00:40]: uh contract and even in this according document and you know and I spoke to you about this the way it was laid out. [2:00:40, 2:00:42]: Uh the four [2:00:43, 2:00:45]: uh one year contract [2:00:46, 2:00:51]: And and all of that sort of just confused the issue, but I just wanted to make sure that. [2:00:51, 2:00:59]: Uh we was all on point and and and with that understanding that this is not a new contract and hopefully uh it will be. [2:00:59, 2:01:04]: Um approved and submitted on the original timeline. [2:01:07, 2:01:08]: Okay, any further questions? [2:01:09, 2:01:10]: From the council at all. [2:01:13, 2:01:21]: All right, seeing none. So is there a motion uh to accept this proposal here at all? [2:01:22, 2:01:25]: Mr. Blount, we can make some motions. Is there a second? [2:01:28, 2:01:32]: Okay, Mr. Thomas seconds that Mr. Thomas is second second that. [2:01:32, 2:01:34]: Any further discussion? [2:01:35, 2:01:36]: And if not all in favor, please indicate. [2:01:37, 2:01:37]: Uh [2:01:37, 2:01:40]: Okay, so it's unanimous. Okay, fantastic. Thank you. [2:01:41, 2:01:42]: Okay, council. [2:01:42, 2:01:46]: Council consideration to approve surplus items, public works, trucks. [2:01:46, 2:01:47]: Miss Miller, please. [2:01:48, 2:01:56]: Good afternoon, once again, Mayor and Council. The Public Works Department is requesting that City Council declare the surplus inventory listed below. [2:01:56, 2:02:01]: for the Chevy nineteen eighty seven Chevy Truck C seventy. [2:02:01, 2:02:07]: The 2006 Ford Truck F three fifty and the two thousand eight Swamp. [2:02:08, 2:02:20]: loader um to declare it um as unserviceable items since the items can no longer be used advantageously by the city staff. City staff has examined the items. [2:02:20, 2:02:30]: and have declared that they are unserviceable and impractical. And at this point I'll go ahead and turn it on to over to Public Works Director Deshes. [2:02:31, 2:02:41]: Yes, Mayor and Council. As Ms. Miller stated, these items are no longer in use by the department. And we just want to make sure that we do not continue to accumulate used or [2:02:41, 2:02:50]: Beyond a serviceable life equipment, we're running out of storage space, and we just want to present a good image when people come and visit these facilities and not have a [2:02:50, 2:02:55]: A lot of old equipment and vehicles stacked up that are not being used. [2:02:56, 2:02:59]: And so we're asking that you allow us to surplus and sell these. [2:03:00, 2:03:02]: outdated vehicles and equipment. [2:03:03, 2:03:05]: I thank you. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:03:05, 2:03:09]: And I like the motion that we approve the uh sale of the uh [2:03:09, 2:03:11]: outdated as unserviceable equipment. [2:03:12, 2:03:15]: Okay, thank you. Councilman Barber, did you just second that motion? [2:03:16, 2:03:19]: I have a question. Okay. You yeah, go ahead. What's your question, please? [2:03:20, 2:03:24]: Um these trucks are they gonna be posted on Google? [2:03:24, 2:03:25]: Yes, they will. [2:03:26, 2:03:31]: They're posted once council has deemed them um unserviceable, we then post it on gov deals. [2:03:31, 2:03:39]: Uh the public works department will provide me with an initial startup um value amount and it's public it is posted for about two weeks. [2:03:42, 2:03:45]: Okay. Mr. Blount made a motion. Is there going to be a second? [2:03:49, 2:03:50]: A second. [2:03:50, 2:03:52]: Okay, Miss Gantt, second that motion. Any further discussion? [2:03:55, 2:03:57]: If not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:03:58, 2:03:58]: Uh [2:04:00, 2:04:07]: Okay, Mr. Alexander, you did you vote, sir? Yes. He voted. Okay, thank you very much. It's the unanimous decision. Thank you. [2:04:09, 2:04:22]: Okay, council consideration to approve request for proposal RFP number 2019-00022P renewal GF excuse me CGF facility maintenance. [2:04:23, 2:04:38]: Excuse me, facility management, LLC, facility maintenance solutions, grounds keeper from the amount of two hundred ten thousand dollars, funding source FY twenty twenty-one public works budget. Miss Miller and Mr. Aaron, please. [2:04:38, 2:04:46]: Good afternoon. Once again, Mayor and Council. The Public Works Department is requesting City Council approval to renew the contract with CGL. The purpose [2:04:46, 2:04:53]: Um, of the state contract is to provide for preventative schedule and corrective, unscheduled maintenance services for the customers. [2:04:53, 2:05:13]: Responsible for occupying managing locations that consist with multiple facilities, buildings. The scope of services includes all labor and material to perform on-site preventative maintenance by CGL. The contract was actually increased from 150,000 annually to [2:05:13, 2:05:15]: two hundred and ten thousand annually. [2:05:18, 2:05:20]: Okay, Mr. Aaron, you have anything you need to add at this time? [2:05:20, 2:05:27]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. The FY twenty twenty-one budget was two hundred and ten thousand dollars for right-of-way maintenance. And we just won't [2:05:27, 2:05:34]: the resolution to reflect that amount and not the 150,000 that was initially approved by mayor and council. [2:05:36, 2:05:41]: Okay. Uh Councilman Thomas, you uh unmuted yourself. Do you need you have a question for him, sir? [2:05:41, 2:05:43]: Yeah, I I wanted to ask um [2:05:45, 2:05:47]: Mrs. Miller or Mr. Aaron. [2:05:48, 2:05:50]: My concern is [2:05:50, 2:05:52]: Going back to [2:05:52, 2:05:55]: Uh, the general maintenance department when [2:05:56, 2:05:59]: Um, I guess it was during the last budget cycle. [2:06:00, 2:06:02]: And we approve adding um [2:06:03, 2:06:05]: Employees and equipment. [2:06:06, 2:06:07]: And I guess [2:06:08, 2:06:10]: My question sort of centered around [2:06:10, 2:06:14]: Uh, the general major's department that we have in tech right now. [2:06:15, 2:06:19]: Um and I d I'm sort of having a problem with with with the outsourcing. [2:06:19, 2:06:23]: So I guess my I guess a two prong question is [2:06:24, 2:06:24]: Um [2:06:25, 2:06:27]: training, if you will. [2:06:27, 2:06:32]: Uh for those individuals, Mr. Aaron, within public works. [2:06:32, 2:06:33]: And [2:06:34, 2:06:36]: The capability of [2:06:37, 2:06:38]: Um [2:06:38, 2:06:40]: our workers to be able to [2:06:41, 2:06:42]: Do [2:06:43, 2:06:46]: Some of the general maintenance duties. [2:06:47, 2:06:50]: I just sort of have a problem with all of the outsources. [2:06:50, 2:06:51]: Um [2:06:52, 2:06:57]: 'Cause sometimes I ask, you know, why why do we need a general maintenance? [2:06:57, 2:06:59]: department if we're going to [2:07:00, 2:07:03]: continue to to to outsource [2:07:03, 2:07:07]: I'm not saying that these things don't need to be done. [2:07:08, 2:07:09]: But I'm just wondering about [2:07:10, 2:07:12]: Uh going forward. [2:07:12, 2:07:15]: Uh putting in training mechanism. [2:07:15, 2:07:17]: Well, we can at some point in time. [2:07:18, 2:07:21]: Девелопфорс. [2:07:21, 2:07:23]: That can do [2:07:23, 2:07:26]: Some of the things that we're always outsourcing. [2:07:29, 2:07:38]: Mayor uh Councilman Thomas, this is for the right of way maintenance that the city has in place and we have budgeted two hundred and ten thousand dollars for that. [2:07:38, 2:07:58]: And one of the things we're like everybody else, we've been advertising since January 1 for eight positions that was approved in the FY 2021 budget. But we have not been able to fill those positions. We're feeling that COVID crunch like a majority of businesses. And so we have budgeted$210,000 for right away. [2:07:58, 2:08:06]: Way maintenance, the county notified us on June 30th that they would no longer cut the portion of Campground Road that is in the city. [2:08:06, 2:08:26]: So that has to be mowed. We have not increased staff, but you would increase the workload on the current staff that you have. We're working diligently, trying to find staff to fill those eight positions. So we're just asking for approval to use the funds that were budgeted and approved in the budget. And so by increasing this to the [2:08:26, 2:08:43]: budgeted amount, then we can allow them to assume campground role because we're taking on additional responsibilities, but we have not brought on additional staff. We are searching high and low to add those, to fill those positions. We just have not been able to fill them. [2:08:43, 2:08:58]: And we've interviewed numerous candidates, but the starting at the starting rate, a lot of them just they don't want to come for that amount. So we're trying to make sure that the city reflects council's wills and desires you want the right of ways maintain, and that's what we're doing. [2:08:59, 2:09:01]: But I do understand that because I know [2:09:02, 2:09:05]: Um, you know, we hear the conversation all the time about [2:09:05, 2:09:07]: Employers [2:09:07, 2:09:10]: are looking for workers. I mean you can look at [2:09:10, 2:09:12]: The forharсен. [2:09:12, 2:09:13]: They're everywhere. [2:09:14, 2:09:16]: Uh and it just seemed that [2:09:16, 2:09:19]: Uh there's a problem in feeling a lot of these positions. [2:09:19, 2:09:25]: But hopefully uh here at the city we could get back to that. But speak speak to um [2:09:25, 2:09:30]: training opportunities uh for uh especially in general maintenance. [2:09:31, 2:09:35]: Speak to some of the training opportunities. And I guess with the errand is that [2:09:36, 2:09:38]: Uh we need to sort of [2:09:39, 2:09:41]: Encourage workers. [2:09:41, 2:09:47]: to to to get training to be able to do more than just cut grass. [2:09:48, 2:09:49]: Uh so is there any [2:09:49, 2:09:51]: Is there any push? [2:09:51, 2:09:53]: Or they any kind of incentive? [2:09:54, 2:09:57]: Is there any kind of program where we're encouraging [2:09:57, 2:10:02]: uh our employees to I know the opportunities are there, but I know you can't [2:10:03, 2:10:04]: For some but [2:10:04, 2:10:05]: Um [2:10:05, 2:10:12]: What what is that looking like? I mean we don't we don't never hear about these opportunities or these guys um taking training. [2:10:13, 2:10:23]: The training is available. G Dot has their LTAP program that's available for public main public works and general staff like chainsaw safety. [2:10:24, 2:10:36]: They go attend those classes, they'll attend uh flag and training to get certified in those areas. So there are numerous training opportunities, but it's up to the individual to take advantage of those opportunities. [2:10:36, 2:10:38]: А да інцевто? [2:10:38, 2:10:39]: Encourage. [2:10:41, 2:10:42]: Well uh [2:10:44, 2:10:56]: Ms. Wheeler and I have we've discussed and we've uh got some things in place with a a career track opportunity for staff who don't who do go and receive training. So there are things in place for staff that [2:10:56, 2:10:58]: go and want to receive training. [2:10:59, 2:11:00]: There's also I'm sorry. [2:11:01, 2:11:02]: I'm just saying thank you. [2:11:04, 2:11:04]: What? [2:11:04, 2:11:07]: Um never put two miles down. [2:11:08, 2:11:08]: Well, sir. [2:11:09, 2:11:18]: Yeah, okay. So uh no one has notified us of these changes. So what other changes were made? So the city was notified that they were no longer going to [2:11:19, 2:11:22]: Uh cut camp ground road, is that correct? What other changes were made? [2:11:25, 2:11:25]: Well [2:11:26, 2:11:30]: Go ahead, Deshes. I uh you know, well, a couple of things. One is obviously [2:11:31, 2:11:38]: This contract is related to corridors and obviously the council's um desire to make sure some of these corridors are kept in a certain shape. [2:11:39, 2:11:42]: And this was the budgeted amount that was approved. [2:11:42, 2:11:46]: Um that was uh this before you tonight to be considered. [2:11:46, 2:11:49]: Related to certain roadways [2:11:49, 2:11:56]: Campground Road, for instance. Campground Road is now within the city limits of Stockbridge, or the bulk of it is in the city limits of Stockbridge. [2:11:56, 2:12:02]: And so rightfully, for those roads that are in the city limits of Stockbridge, we have some responsibility. [2:12:03, 2:12:09]: Now having said that, when we went over the the uh service delivery strategy, right, the roads that were [2:12:09, 2:12:19]: deemed to be county roads per 2019. And there is a map that shows that. So most of those roads like Hudson Bridge and Eagles Landing and so forth and so on, I think Walt Stevens, those types of roads. [2:12:21, 2:12:29]: Still are, as we see it, those are county roads for the county to maintain based on that negotiation. [2:12:29, 2:12:33]: Campground Road and I think maybe Mount Zion Parkway, there are one or two others. [2:12:33, 2:12:42]: that fall outside of that particular roadway list and are fully within the city limits of Stockbridge. And so just like any other city road or city road. [2:12:43, 2:12:50]: That would be our responsibility to maintain. Now apparently someone did go actually go out on Campground Road, I believe, this week and cut it. [2:12:50, 2:12:53]: Campground Road. Is that right? I think I think Mr. Aaron mentioned that to me. [2:12:55, 2:12:55]: Yes, sir. [2:12:56, 2:13:02]: But if if that road is within the city limits of Stockbridge, it was built by the county, but it's now fully within the city limits of Stockbridge. [2:13:03, 2:13:09]: Um, there is some responsibility for us to address that road. And that road obviously would not have been on that 2019. [2:13:10, 2:13:11]: County roadmap. [2:13:12, 2:13:17]: Okay, my my point being is this is that you know we we've made trade offs with them [2:13:17, 2:13:20]: uh before they've been cutting the road. [2:13:20, 2:13:23]: All of a sudden it stops. It seems [2:13:23, 2:13:28]: You know, arbitrary that okay, all of a sudden we're gonna start. And I keep saying [2:13:28, 2:13:30]: To the district four commissioner, she watching. [2:13:31, 2:13:33]: These are your voters. [2:13:34, 2:13:36]: When you came to ask for my vote. [2:13:37, 2:13:40]: You did not say, I don't want your vote. [2:13:41, 2:13:42]: Because [2:13:42, 2:13:43]: They're in the city limits. [2:13:44, 2:13:47]: Okay, she has the power to change this. [2:13:47, 2:14:07]: And to do the right thing because when she comes asking for their vote next year, these citizens are going to know that they didn't they stopped cutting this road because it was in the city limit. The county built this road. We have the ability to change this and to make the right decisions. We're cutting right of ways as well. [2:14:07, 2:14:13]: Well, okay. Uh just like Rock Quarry Road, we certainly do. But we're gonna do our part. [2:14:14, 2:14:30]: We're gonna do our part. When there's a stock bridge name up there, we're gonna do it. We're not gonna play these games where 50 feet is in the city, 100 feet is not in the city, this is this is not, nobody wants to hear that. [2:14:30, 2:14:47]: And this seems very arbitrary in order to do that. Of course, certainly I'm glad you did the right thing, Mr. Aaron, but in the end, obviously we got to do what we gotta do because these citizens are looking at us and these new subdivisions are being built on Winding Creek. [2:14:48, 2:14:53]: The county started to cut the road, then arbitrarily they decided not to do so. [2:14:53, 2:15:03]: It's wrong. But in the end, I speak for I hopefully I speak for myself, no matter what it is. We're not going to let starbridge fall for nobody. We're not going to do it. [2:15:05, 2:15:06]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:15:10, 2:15:12]: My question was answered. Thank you. [2:15:12, 2:15:17]: All right. Any other questions for um Mr uh Mr. Aaron at all? [2:15:19, 2:15:23]: All right, so uh I need a motion to accept this proposal. [2:15:23, 2:15:25]: Oh moo. Is there a second? [2:15:27, 2:15:29]: Miss Barber Seconds had any further discussion? [2:15:30, 2:15:32]: If not all in favor of motion, please remit three. [2:15:33, 2:15:34]: Uh. [2:15:34, 2:15:38]: Okay, unanous decision. All right, thank you very much. Okay. [2:15:40, 2:16:00]: Council consideration to award fixed uh contract to the lowest responsive responsible bidder, summit construction and development LLC. Invitation to bid. Um, it says, well, ITB number 2021-003 for the city of Stockbridge, East Atlanta. [2:16:00, 2:16:10]: out road, Lee Street, roadway improvements, a total amount of two million six hundred and forty four dollars and forty four four hundred and fifty one cents, four hundred and fifty one dollars and two cents. [2:16:11, 2:16:15]: Funny source uh splos, uh Miss Miller and uh Mr. Aaron, please. [2:16:16, 2:16:22]: Good afternoon. Once again, Mayor and Council. Um at stated the City of Stockbridge procurement division is requesting approval to award the fixed contract. [2:16:23, 2:16:25]: to the lowest responsive responsible bit there's some at [2:16:25, 2:16:28]: Construction and development LLC. [2:16:28, 2:16:48]: Uh invitation to bid number 20210003 as stated for the city. East Atlanta Road, Lee Road Improvement Works will consist of furnishing and installing all materials, labor, tools, equipment, and related services required for a complete project. The procurement division solicited invitation to bid number uh 2021. [2:16:48, 2:16:54]: 210003, uh based on the city of Stockbridge ordinance and state. [2:16:55, 2:16:56]: And state guidelines. [2:16:58, 2:17:02]: Uh I'll turn it over to Dashus if he has any question um responses regarding this. [2:17:03, 2:17:07]: Oh yes, uh as we all know, this is part of the amphitheater project. [2:17:07, 2:17:09]: Two point eight million. [2:17:09, 2:17:18]: was allocated for this project. So we came in under under budgeted fund. So we're just asking Mayor and Council to approve for us to move forward with this project. [2:17:20, 2:17:21]: Okay, thank you. [2:17:21, 2:17:22]: I'm sorry, great, Mr. Night. [2:17:24, 2:17:30]: I was just gonna mention, of course, this is related to the full right turn lane on East Atlanta Road. [2:17:31, 2:17:33]: And also the intersection improvements. [2:17:34, 2:17:38]: Um and realignment on uh North Lee and South Lee Street. [2:17:38, 2:17:42]: uh is a part of uh this project. Obviously that is to facilitate [2:17:42, 2:17:45]: An improved transportation network. [2:17:45, 2:17:55]: Um even absent the amphitheater, but obviously amphitheater coming online. And this is something that uh obviously has been discussed previously. There is a splost for money that's available. [2:17:55, 2:17:57]: As Mr. Aaron uh mentioned. [2:17:57, 2:18:00]: uh that would cover the cost of the uh project. [2:18:01, 2:18:02]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:18:03, 2:18:16]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Mr. Knight, I think you you're kind of hitting on the question I had because I know that this this part is just uh mainly pertaining on that one end on alignment, because I think we already discussed. [2:18:16, 2:18:31]: um about the uh totality of the street when it comes to uh everything else, including the beautification of the street. So this portion here is just pertaining to that one end to alignment of the uh traffic lights. Is that is that correct? [2:18:36, 2:18:37]: You muted, Mr. Knight. [2:18:40, 2:18:51]: I'm s I'm sorry. This this not only is the intersection, but also um speaks to to or will speak to East Atlanta Road itself and also further down on Lee Street as well. [2:18:52, 2:19:12]: Okay, because I was listening to what was budgeted and what uh and and and it didn't take the whole budgeting for that. So an as has an assessment, the total assessment been made for uh Lee Street uh in order for the beautification that that didn't uh so that uh that this amount covers the total assessment. [2:19:12, 2:19:12]: Mm. [2:19:13, 2:19:19]: From from one end to the other. Is that what this amount covers? So that we wouldn't have to come back and do a [2:19:20, 2:19:21]: Kind of a change order. [2:19:22, 2:19:32]: If I'm correct, this would cover down to the entrance of the amphitheater. I may have to look at something real quick to clarify that, but down to the the entrance on the Lee Street on the amphitheater side. [2:19:32, 2:19:43]: Yeah, but one of the things that we we approved this I mean that to the empathy. [2:19:43, 2:19:49]: to make that assessment all the way down to the end of the street, not just to the inches of the amphitheater. [2:19:49, 2:19:58]: That's why in fact that was approved by council. So it that's why I'm wondering why we've we're falling short this much on what we had approved, which was 2.8. [2:19:58, 2:20:02]: Yet still we haven't given the assessment all the way down to the to the end corner. [2:20:03, 2:20:08]: I'm just trying to figure out w when is that where is that amount? What is that amount going to be and why wasn't it added to this? [2:20:10, 2:20:16]: Well as I remember right, this was for the actual hardcore road improvements. [2:20:16, 2:20:18]: Yes, the council did speak to [2:20:19, 2:20:22]: Um some sidewalking down and beautification trees down. [2:20:23, 2:20:31]: From that end down to Bryant Street, as I remember. Right. Um, I don't think that that is included fully in this particular [2:20:31, 2:20:33]: Um uh RFP. [2:20:34, 2:20:39]: Because it's this one spoke speci more specifically to roadway improvements that would be a part of [2:20:40, 2:20:42]: East Atlanta and the Lee Street projects themselves. [2:20:43, 2:20:58]: And the reason I'm saying that now is because this is uh the last one of the last bunches of old splos money. And I and I would rather for us to go into the works of completing that project with the amount. [2:20:59, 2:21:02]: With the monies that we do have on hand for it rather than [2:21:02, 2:21:03]: Um [2:21:04, 2:21:09]: Public works are anybody coming back saying they need this money when the money is right here now to complete the project. [2:21:10, 2:21:14]: So that's what I'm saying. What what why would why wouldn't we go ahead and get an assessment? [2:21:14, 2:21:16]: It just completely targeted. [2:21:16, 2:21:26]: Well, yeah, I think Falcon Design was working on the assessment for that other section. The the sidewalking and the um the tree lining landscaping on the other section of [2:21:26, 2:21:31]: of uh Lee Street going back to Bryant Street. I don't think we've received that yet. If I [2:21:31, 2:21:34]: I I don't think we've received that late. Is that right, Deshaus? [2:21:34, 2:21:36]: I don't think we've received that yet. [2:21:36, 2:21:49]: No, sir, we haven't received it. Okay. Have we have we asked for this? Has been this we've been talking about this for quite a while. Have we asked for the assessment from them? Um, because we're only we're talking about beautiful sidewalks, which [2:21:50, 2:21:54]: You know, this you know, this shouldn't take a rocket science time to to bring to the council. [2:21:54, 2:22:01]: Right. The other piece of this is they're also looking at that parking on those fifty parking or f about fifty parking spaces. [2:22:01, 2:22:03]: Or so on that section of Lee Street as well. [2:22:05, 2:22:07]: Yeah, but but I'm talking about [2:22:08, 2:22:12]: We're talking two different things now. I'm talking about the beautification of Lee Street. [2:22:12, 2:22:13]: Sat walks. [2:22:13, 2:22:33]: Streetlights or whatever. I'm just talking about the frontage of Lee Street. Now, when you get into internal stuff like parking lot and all that, that's totally separate on what we talked about, spending this money for to improvement of the road. And we talked about letting that money be a part of improving the street, Lee Street. And right now I'm not hearing that it's going all the way down the [2:22:33, 2:22:43]: Brian Street when we're talking about we're not using all the money. Well, all the money should be used if we're gonna if if if that's what it's gonna take to go ahead and put the beautification in place. [2:22:43, 2:22:45]: Why I mean, what is a hold up with that? I mean [2:22:46, 2:22:47]: If we're gonna do a poor [2:22:47, 2:22:54]: Why are we piecing things off when we're talking about bringing things together in the totality? We just done with it and just go ahead and get it done. [2:22:56, 2:23:02]: I don't necessarily agree with what disagree with what you're saying, Councilman. What I'm saying is this RSP S designed by Falcon. [2:23:03, 2:23:05]: included down to is I remember [2:23:06, 2:23:11]: Down to the entrance on Lee Street and the East Atlanta Road improvements and the intersection improvement. [2:23:12, 2:23:20]: Obviously, we have talked about it. They are looking at what it would take to do the extension down and the landscaping down. Yes, the council has talked about that. We're clear. [2:23:20, 2:23:25]: That that needs to be done. I'm just saying I I don't recall and I don't think I've seen from them [2:23:26, 2:23:29]: uh some assessment back for that particular section. [2:23:29, 2:23:39]: Now, obviously, if there is additional funds here or other funds that the council wants to use to fund that, and I think it's been clear that the council wants to see that, obviously that will be done. [2:23:39, 2:23:46]: I just I I'm just saying this particular RFP because it dealt with the roadway improvements, to my knowledge, does not include that. [2:23:47, 2:23:54]: Has Falcon given the city of Stockbridge a timeline when they're going to bring that to us? Because when it comes to this amphitheater, [2:23:54, 2:24:10]: We're piecing, we're doing this, we're doing that, we keep coming back, let's put this off to the next meeting. Have they gave us a time when they're gonna have that? Because I've been talking about this beautification of of this street for for for for quite a while now. And now we're still not talking about it. [2:24:11, 2:24:17]: we're talking about fund funds that are at hand. Are we pushing Falcon to say, hey, we w we at least need this portion? [2:24:18, 2:24:31]: uh away from connection to whatever you're gonna be doing with parking because the the street and right-of-forest uh um um walkable areas has nothing to do with the design of uh of of the uh how many parking spaces we're gonna get. [2:24:36, 2:24:37]: Okay. [2:24:37, 2:24:39]: Miss Barber, you had a question? [2:24:41, 2:24:44]: I did, thank you, Mayor. Um Attorney Berry. [2:24:44, 2:24:45]: I wanted to know. [2:24:46, 2:24:50]: Um the draft of the contract for this award. [2:24:51, 2:24:53]: This invitation a bit. Have you seen it? [2:24:55, 2:24:57]: Or do not burn it. [2:24:58, 2:25:00]: I have not seen the draft yet. [2:25:00, 2:25:02]: But all that gets finalized after. [2:25:03, 2:25:04]: Okay. [2:25:05, 2:25:06]: Okay, Mr. Knighton. [2:25:07, 2:25:11]: So I was looking for a draft of the contract for this. [2:25:11, 2:25:15]: So that I can look at what the timeline would be. [2:25:15, 2:25:19]: When the notice to proceed would begin, how long [2:25:19, 2:25:20]: Um [2:25:20, 2:25:24]: We should expect this project to last. [2:25:25, 2:25:28]: How would I know that or where would I get that information from? [2:25:30, 2:25:34]: I want to know when I should expect that the project would be complete. [2:25:34, 2:25:37]: and when they will start the project. [2:25:39, 2:25:43]: If a if approved, the project would or they would be provided a notice to proceed. [2:25:44, 2:25:50]: And then they would begin the project. As I recall in this particular RFP, is mentioned by Falcon, I think a couple of weeks ago. [2:25:50, 2:25:54]: They there was a nine month period for from start to finish. [2:25:55, 2:25:57]: Uh, that was a part of the RFP. [2:25:58, 2:26:00]: Okay, so [2:26:01, 2:26:02]: Thank you, Mr. Knighton. But [2:26:03, 2:26:03]: So [2:26:05, 2:26:16]: I'd much rather see a draft of the contract so that I can see the exact dates. I know that there is a period of time in which after council approved [2:26:16, 2:26:18]: This invitation to be it. [2:26:18, 2:26:20]: Or make the award. [2:26:20, 2:26:25]: There's a certain amount of time, a few days that a notice to proceed will be issued. [2:26:25, 2:26:30]: Is that within a few days? Is it within a week? Is it two months? [2:26:31, 2:26:32]: I'm trying to figure out [2:26:33, 2:26:35]: That nine month period you just mentioned. [2:26:36, 2:26:37]: When is it to begin? [2:26:40, 2:26:48]: Probably have to defer to the attorney, but um once the contract what if if if it's approved by the council, then obviously the contract would be developed. [2:26:48, 2:26:52]: And there would be exchanged with um that particular firm and or their legal counsel. [2:26:53, 2:26:58]: I would imagine within two to three weeks, I would imagine I'll I'll defer to [2:26:58, 2:27:06]: uh the the attorney or or Miss Miller if there's something unusual about that. But generally in about two to three weeks that can be turned around. [2:27:09, 2:27:09]: Okay. [2:27:11, 2:27:14]: Thank you. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [2:27:14, 2:27:15]: Thank you, Mayor. [2:27:16, 2:27:16]: Uh [2:27:17, 2:27:18]: Mr. Nine, uh uh [2:27:19, 2:27:22]: I I really started have a problem with this and and [2:27:22, 2:27:25]: I I've spoke about this before. [2:27:25, 2:27:27]: And every time I hear nine months. [2:27:28, 2:27:31]: A chill just go all over me and [2:27:31, 2:27:34]: The the turn lane at East Atlanta Road. [2:27:35, 2:27:39]: The reconfiguration of Lee Street, all the Lee Street improvements. [2:27:42, 2:27:46]: We have talked about this for a long time, a long time. [2:27:46, 2:27:50]: And we and we haven't started and yet we're saying it's gonna take nine months. [2:27:51, 2:27:54]: And I've I've expressed my concern how can we [2:27:55, 2:27:56]: For free [2:27:57, 2:28:00]: An amphitheater dates with концерт. [2:28:01, 2:28:05]: And we have this construction going on. I I just have a problem with that. [2:28:05, 2:28:10]: So let me let that stay right there for n now. Let me go back to the issue that [2:28:10, 2:28:12]: Councilman Blount raised. [2:28:12, 2:28:14]: And see, and that's another issue because [2:28:16, 2:28:18]: When the revelation came to us. [2:28:19, 2:28:21]: That in the initial [2:28:21, 2:28:22]: Uh scope [2:28:24, 2:28:28]: Someone told someone not to develop [2:28:28, 2:28:29]: The [2:28:30, 2:28:35]: piece of land that was back down. And we said, then, oh, that could be for parking. And we talked about [2:28:36, 2:28:38]: uh Brian Street and all of that back then. [2:28:39, 2:28:41]: And so and now [2:28:42, 2:28:43]: We still don't have. [2:28:44, 2:28:46]: A scope of work for that. [2:28:46, 2:28:47]: Um [2:28:48, 2:28:52]: Uh am I correct, uh Councilman Blount? Then we did we talk about this some time ago? [2:28:52, 2:29:00]: Yeah, well when when we uh councilman Tom, if you will, when we talked about initially, I mean this has been over a year ago, when we talked about [2:29:00, 2:29:06]: the what we had to do to scope of work for Lee Street in particular. I don't I don't want to talk about um [2:29:07, 2:29:15]: um Eastalamba, we talked about it, we talked about beautification going from one corner to another. And I thought that we owe that to that community back there. [2:29:15, 2:29:35]: for all that we're doing uh in in the for for uh you know just for what we're doing and and and and they had to endure this building this empathy and in all this noise banging and rocking and rolling that we will at least put the beautification along that uh from uh North Henry all the way down to Bryant Street. And this was talked about over a year ago. [2:29:35, 2:29:37]: Then we asked um [2:29:38, 2:29:45]: For for this to go to Falcon and to bring us some numbers back or something. And and I'm just saying, Mr. Night. [2:29:45, 2:29:48]: I'm just having a problem with with that because [2:29:49, 2:29:52]: To me, this is this is a major clock. [2:29:52, 2:29:54]: In the [2:29:54, 2:29:55]: Um [2:29:55, 2:29:58]: Ongoing for the amphitheater. [2:29:59, 2:30:03]: And now I mean it's nothing we can do. We can't go back and get the time that's lost. [2:30:04, 2:30:08]: I just see this is gonna be a problem. I hope that it's not going to be a problem. [2:30:08, 2:30:11]: But we're talking about nine months of construction. [2:30:12, 2:30:19]: And we haven't even to we had nothing has been done yet with the with the Lee Street and and the uh Bryant Street. [2:30:19, 2:30:21]: Uh look like we dropped the ball on that, but [2:30:22, 2:30:25]: I don't know s if someone can explain to me how [2:30:26, 2:30:30]: We can function uh the amphitheatр, especially in twenty twenty two. [2:30:30, 2:30:32]: And we got construction going. [2:30:33, 2:30:34]: That would [2:30:34, 2:30:46]: I'm sorry. I need someone to explain that to me. I'm sorry. I I yeah, let me mention a couple of things related to that. Typically when engineers and Falcon design the RFP, typically engineers, they're gonna put out a long time frame. [2:30:47, 2:30:50]: because they want to make sure they cover for anything related to weather. [2:30:50, 2:31:00]: um unforeseen circumstances, et cetera. So they're gonna put a time frame in there that's probably at the the longest length, especially for a roadway project. We're talking about [2:31:00, 2:31:03]: A right turn lane on East Atlanta and then um [2:31:03, 2:31:06]: uh intersection configuration. [2:31:07, 2:31:10]: As is we probably know um [2:31:10, 2:31:13]: Іздей конструкт з проєкт. [2:31:14, 2:31:18]: you know, in in towards the spring, looking at the spring of completing [2:31:19, 2:31:23]: uh the project at that point in time the project will basically be done based on [2:31:24, 2:31:25]: Timeline and expectation. [2:31:26, 2:31:30]: And so most of the heavy lifting and all of the heavy construction will be done by then. [2:31:31, 2:31:33]: Also, I would mention too is that [2:31:34, 2:31:37]: Um, even when the construction is ongoing. [2:31:37, 2:31:41]: There's gonna have to be traffic movement on East Atlanta Road and on Lee Street. [2:31:42, 2:31:48]: There may be one or two periods of time, you know, when they doing a road that they have to shut something down one night or a couple of nights or something like that. [2:31:49, 2:31:56]: But as we see throughout Atlanta, uh metropolitan Atlanta, there's construction going on all the time and still you're moving traffic. [2:31:56, 2:32:07]: Now ideally you want that to be done as we open the amphitheater for for the spring. And like I said, most of the heavy lifting should be done by then at that point in time based on timeline. [2:32:07, 2:32:18]: But I don't think we'll have any impediment to moving traffic in and out of the amphitheater during the amphitheater period upgoing. As as I mentioned, there's still gonna have to be facilitation of traffic movement. [2:32:18, 2:32:20]: on East Atlanta and Lee Street. [2:32:21, 2:32:24]: I I I'm I I I get that, but [2:32:24, 2:32:29]: Daily movement of traffic is one thing, amphitheater traffic is another thing. [2:32:30, 2:32:35]: But uh let me ask this, is there anyone uh available uh from Falcon tonight? [2:32:38, 2:32:56]: Yeah, he was on. He he was on here and must have dropped off. Um, he did say or I did receive a message that they were working on the improvements on Lee Street. He didn't give me, I was asking for a timeline, but they said they were working on those improvements up on Lee Street. And we'll try to get a timeline from them. [2:32:56, 2:33:00]: Well well let me ask you this, Mr. Knight, and I'm going back to uh Mr. Blount's [2:33:01, 2:33:02]: Um concern. [2:33:03, 2:33:07]: So are we going to move forward on the Lee Street? [2:33:08, 2:33:09]: Bryant Street. [2:33:09, 2:33:10]: Improvement. [2:33:11, 2:33:13]: Do we have um a directive? [2:33:13, 2:33:17]: So where are we with that? Are we or are we are we not? [2:33:17, 2:33:19]: going to make those improvements. [2:33:19, 2:33:28]: Well they yeah, they are working on it now. Falcon is working on it now. They're working on the design now. In fact, John Palmer sent a message with they're working on the design now, so that's in motion. [2:33:29, 2:33:30]: Okay. [2:33:32, 2:33:35]: I stand by. Mr. Blount, did you have another comment, sir? [2:33:37, 2:33:39]: Uh I I [2:33:40, 2:33:41]: You you know the the the [2:33:42, 2:33:54]: Because I think that when we look at this state of the art amphitheater, we look at um so many questions. I'm pretty sure each each and every council member on here, every elected body on here has gotten questions about [2:33:55, 2:33:57]: When this gonna happen, when that's gonna happen. [2:33:58, 2:34:00]: And it's for me it's it's it's um [2:34:02, 2:34:03]: It's it [2:34:04, 2:34:11]: When you talk about a project, it's disheartening for me to hear a project that was you're saying that would take nine months. [2:34:12, 2:34:20]: When we could have started that project, in my opinion, I never done it, but when we, you know, that's something that takes nine months. [2:34:20, 2:34:22]: In an amphitheater that took [2:34:23, 2:34:24]: over year to beal. [2:34:25, 2:34:37]: that these things seem like some things can be done simultaneously to build. I've seen areas where you had venues where things were torn down. Uh case in point, the uh uh uh [2:34:37, 2:34:39]: Building the uh um [2:34:40, 2:34:47]: Dome, uh building the Mercedes-B stadium, building that up and then tearing down the dome. But I I mean I've seen these types of projects happen. [2:34:47, 2:34:50]: But for us to talk about [2:34:50, 2:35:00]: so much for so long and it's not that we was trying to find and identify funds to do it. We're talking about funds that was readily ready and in place to do these things. [2:35:01, 2:35:02]: So are we dealing with [2:35:02, 2:35:03]: Uh [2:35:03, 2:35:20]: engineering that that that can't handle the volume or are we dealing with directors are we dealing with what is it that we can't meet earlier timelines in order to facilitate because when these doors open on that amphitheater we're talking about now timeline that's gonna finish [2:35:20, 2:35:23]: uh lee street going into next summer. [2:35:23, 2:35:28]: Oh, if everything works perfect, we'll talk about by May of next year. [2:35:28, 2:35:32]: But everything is not perfect. We're not in a perfect world. So now we're talking about into next summer. [2:35:33, 2:35:42]: For the completion of that. And I'm just saying, how long does it take these projects to simultaneously work when they're all a part of one big project? [2:35:42, 2:35:51]: I I'm not I'm not I just don't I don't I don't I guess I don't understand it. Maybe I have to go and uh get with GMA and take uh construction 101. I just don't get it. [2:35:53, 2:35:54]: Miss Barber, please. [2:35:57, 2:36:01]: Mr. Knighton, are you able to provide a timeline? [2:36:01, 2:36:04]: for all of these capital projects to us. [2:36:05, 2:36:05]: Please. [2:36:08, 2:36:13]: Yes, in fact, well yes, in fact I had a conversation with Kirk, uh Kirk. [2:36:14, 2:36:18]: uh Carl Trevathan and uh Heather Hubble uh yesterday. [2:36:19, 2:36:27]: And Carl and I talked about a Gantt chart that shows all of the projects in the timelines. Now I know Public Works, they do something similar to that. [2:36:27, 2:36:35]: But putting all of those Gantt all of those items on one Gantt chart that shows the timelines, bid awards. [2:36:36, 2:36:42]: um construction status and then projected end date on one concise document is what we're talking about. [2:36:43, 2:36:48]: In fact, he and I are gonna meet with uh Mr. Aaron, uh Miss uh Johnson. [2:36:49, 2:36:53]: Um and the team that we have to put together all of that information. [2:36:53, 2:36:55]: uh together on one Gantt chart. [2:36:56, 2:36:58]: It's called a gap shard, is what it is. [2:36:58, 2:36:58]: Thank you. [2:37:00, 2:37:01]: Uh, Mayor Pro Tem, go away, please. [2:37:03, 2:37:08]: Yeah. I think, you know, all the points are very legitimate uh in terms of [2:37:08, 2:37:09]: The time frame. These are the [2:37:10, 2:37:11]: I think I [2:37:11, 2:37:14]: talked about these for quite some time and I think [2:37:14, 2:37:19]: There was a desire among this council at one point to have one project done at a time. [2:37:19, 2:37:23]: This new council has endeavored to say that we wanted to move. [2:37:24, 2:37:26]: At a much faster pace. [2:37:26, 2:37:29]: And we want to do that. We brought on Kekinwood and other [2:37:30, 2:37:36]: uh entities to assist the city in doing that. Now we have to go back and do a post mortem. [2:37:37, 2:37:39]: At some point on how we actually got here. [2:37:39, 2:37:40]: But at this point [2:37:41, 2:37:43]: We gotta get we need to go ahead and get the project started. [2:37:44, 2:37:47]: And I would suggest that in in the motion that we put in there. [2:37:47, 2:37:51]: A timetable to get the rest of the pro the uh [2:37:51, 2:37:52]: Rest of [2:37:53, 2:37:55]: Uh North Least recompleted. [2:37:55, 2:37:58]: So that could actually be part of the motion. Let's go ahead and approve. [2:37:59, 2:38:01]: uh what's on the table before us and then [2:38:01, 2:38:14]: put a timetable for the council, for the staff to bring back to us uh the rest of the project so it can be approved and for us to go ahead and allot the funds uh for the rest of the project. [2:38:15, 2:38:17]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:38:17, 2:38:26]: And and I don't know if the you know the the magnitude and why it's it's so much of a uh passion for me to continue to talk about Lee Street. [2:38:27, 2:38:33]: Is that Mr. Knight and Mr. Aaron? I showed you all a video and pictures, if you all recall. [2:38:34, 2:38:40]: Quite a while ago about the storm drain that runs on Lee Street and it and when heavy rains kinda was flooding people's yards. [2:38:41, 2:38:54]: And one of the reasons why we didn't go why the city, why uh you you recall that Mr. Knight and me showing you that people yards was backing up with water, that storm drain that goes down on uh uh on on uh Lee Street. [2:38:54, 2:38:57]: Needed to be dug out. Do you recall that, Mr. Aaron? [2:38:59, 2:39:00]: Yes, I do. [2:39:00, 2:39:04]: Yeah. So one of the things that as a an elected official [2:39:04, 2:39:09]: Talking to the citizens over there, we're telling them that we're building this big old emphasis. [2:39:10, 2:39:14]: And we're gonna take care of your problem because we're gonna have beautification coming. [2:39:14, 2:39:20]: And now we're talking about projects of concerts and all this fun, fun, fun for the city. [2:39:20, 2:39:30]: But yet we still haven't opened the door and we're still talking about another y almost another year for them to get some type of satisfaction with something that we should have taken care of, but [2:39:30, 2:39:39]: We haven't taken care of it yet because I've been telling them, well, we got this beautification coming over here. And now we're being told that there's not even a plan on place for it. [2:39:39, 2:39:41]: That's disheartening for me. [2:39:41, 2:39:48]: When you all, the ones to make it happen, was fully aware of what we needed done over there on that street. [2:39:51, 2:40:00]: All right, if there are not any more questions, I guess in a sense or thoughts that we need a motion. Um I believe we have not had a motion yet on this proposal. [2:40:00, 2:40:03]: And uh so I need a motion to be [2:40:03, 2:40:08]: red uh okay for this their motion [2:40:08, 2:40:09]: Let me ask a question. [2:40:10, 2:40:11]: Alright. [2:40:11, 2:40:24]: Mr. Knight, how long is it gonna take uh for you to uh get us this information so the rest of the project can can can move forward? So we can go ahead and approve this and rest assured that the rest of [2:40:24, 2:40:30]: uh North Lee Street is going to be taken care of all the way down to Bryan. I can we can actually put that into the motion. [2:40:31, 2:40:37]: You're um I'm sir, you're talking about um I mean Falcon is working on it now. You want a time frame. [2:40:37, 2:40:40]: I'll have to get with them. I mean I [2:40:40, 2:40:48]: I want a time frame when that RFP, a approximate time frame, when that RFP is gonna come back for the rest of the project. [2:40:49, 2:40:53]: Oh, if we need to do an RFP for the rest of the project, I would imagine [2:40:54, 2:41:01]: We would be able to have that from Falcon. I mean, that some some of it's gonna be dependent on them. They're working on it now, but I would imagine [2:41:02, 2:41:03]: Um [2:41:03, 2:41:05]: Probably at the end of August. [2:41:06, 2:41:12]: Okay. All right. So I'll make the motion to move forward with uh this pro this um [2:41:13, 2:41:15]: Recommendation by staff. [2:41:15, 2:41:17]: Contingent upon the [2:41:17, 2:41:20]: Uh w also with the condition [2:41:20, 2:41:24]: The staff will bring back to us the remainder of the project. [2:41:24, 2:41:25]: Extending [2:41:25, 2:41:29]: The beautification and sidewalks down to [2:41:29, 2:41:32]: uh on North Lee Street down to Bryant Street. [2:41:34, 2:41:35]: Is there a second? [2:41:35, 2:41:36]: I've seen I can [2:41:36, 2:41:38]: All right, Mr. Thomas Second, any further discussion? [2:41:40, 2:41:43]: If not, please Miss Barber. [2:41:44, 2:41:44]: You have a question? [2:41:46, 2:41:50]: And I know this agenda item it is for [2:41:51, 2:41:52]: As to approve [2:41:54, 2:41:56]: The invitation to bed. [2:41:58, 2:41:58]: You [2:41:59, 2:42:00]: Changing. [2:42:01, 2:42:02]: What this scope will work. [2:42:03, 2:42:04]: And the item. [2:42:04, 2:42:05]: No. [2:42:07, 2:42:27]: No, that's not what this is doing. We're keeping this scope exactly the same and we're challenging staff to bring back to us another scope of work for the rest of the project going down to uh Bryant Street. So this this pr will remain the same. They'll just bring back to us the other project, and that's on [2:42:26, 2:42:32]: the staff in order to do that. You may you may need to have two different motions then because you may want to keep [2:42:33, 2:42:34]: The the [2:42:34, 2:42:35]: Um [2:42:35, 2:42:39]: The road project item keep that clean and separate and make two different motions. [2:42:39, 2:42:45]: Okay, the first motion is to move forward with this project as described by staff. [2:42:45, 2:42:50]: Sir second Mr. Thomas second Mr. Thomas second that any further discussion. [2:42:51, 2:42:53]: If not all in favor of that motion, please indicate. [2:42:55, 2:42:58]: Okay, uh. [2:42:58, 2:43:09]: Thank you. Okay, so unanimous decision. Okay. Now now the second motion we're gonna move forward with is staff is to bring back to us. [2:43:09, 2:43:12]: Uh, the RP by the end of August. [2:43:12, 2:43:15]: For the remainder of the North Least Reproject. [2:43:15, 2:43:17]: All the way down to Bryant Street. [2:43:19, 2:43:20]: Yeah, a second. [2:43:20, 2:43:21]: Um [2:43:21, 2:43:32]: Question before. Okay, go right ahead, please. Uh Mr. Knight, uh is there any um and this may have been answered before, is there any right-of-way acquisition in this? [2:43:32, 2:43:34]: Second part of uh [2:43:34, 2:43:36]: Leaf Street, DeBryan Street. [2:43:37, 2:43:38]: There may be [2:43:38, 2:43:46]: Falcon said there was uh when they when we did up with this is at our retreat, they said there was about fifty or a hundred feet or something already down there. [2:43:46, 2:43:48]: They said that during our retreat. [2:43:50, 2:43:51]: Right away. [2:43:52, 2:44:02]: Well I I was second the motion, but it just sort of dawned on me to ask the question right away um that we needed to do in there. But I second uh the second motion. [2:44:03, 2:44:05]: All right, good deal. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:44:05, 2:44:11]: Yeah, I I agree with what was said. Uh it's if it's there if there's gonna be any right of way acquisition. [2:44:11, 2:44:20]: Uh I I've talked to nobody over there that's that's not for beautification of that street in the city stepping in. So I don't think that that's gonna be the problem. The problem has been [2:44:21, 2:44:22]: Getting the work done. [2:44:24, 2:44:27]: All right, motion has been made and and we have a second. Any further discussion? [2:44:28, 2:44:31]: If not all in favor of motion, please indicate. [2:44:32, 2:44:33]: We scan. [2:44:35, 2:44:38]: I sorry, my thing won't come on. I [2:44:39, 2:44:41]: All right, good deal. The announcer says thank you. Appreciate it. [2:44:42, 2:44:50]: Council consideration to the quiet zone designation at Love Street and consent of closing Nolan Street. Miss Miller, please. [2:44:53, 2:45:02]: I'm sorry, that should not be Miss Millis. It rightfully uh should be me on that item. Um several weeks ago, of course, we had a virtual town hall related to [2:45:03, 2:45:07]: Uh, the potential uh quiet zone at Love Street and then [2:45:08, 2:45:11]: the um potential closing of Nolan Street. [2:45:12, 2:45:15]: Per discussions with Norfolk Southern, of course we [2:45:15, 2:45:19]: Uh went through that virtual town hall. There were several uh questions and items raised. [2:45:20, 2:45:22]: As a result uh of that. [2:45:22, 2:45:27]: Um and uh council was able to hear from citizens related to that matter. [2:45:28, 2:45:35]: Of course, during that period of time, um I went through a series of um slides related to the downtown area, including. [2:45:36, 2:45:39]: Uh what is happening, of course, with the amphitheater construction. [2:45:39, 2:45:43]: Uh the RSVP plan, a potential pedestrian bridge over North Henry Boulevard. [2:45:43, 2:45:46]: And of course the Cultural Art Center and uh other. [2:45:46, 2:45:49]: Um items in and around the downtown area. [2:45:50, 2:45:53]: The quiet zone obviously has been something of topic of discussion. [2:45:54, 2:45:56]: For the council uh for quite some time. [2:45:57, 2:46:01]: And um this uh proposed resolution. [2:46:01, 2:46:05]: If approved by council, would set in motion then with Norfolk Southern. [2:46:06, 2:46:07]: А the resolution approval. [2:46:08, 2:46:11]: Um from uh the uh council. [2:46:11, 2:46:15]: And then would begin a series of steps. [2:46:15, 2:46:18]: Um that would uh lead potentially to [2:46:18, 2:46:21]: Um the quiet z or the quiet zone crossing. [2:46:21, 2:46:31]: the closing of Nolan Street, there would be a potential a payment from Norfolk Southern to the city of Stockbridge is outlined, I believe, in the resolution of fifty thousand dollars and perhaps additional monies. [2:46:32, 2:46:34]: Of seventy five hundred or so from G Dot. [2:46:35, 2:46:38]: that could could be utilized to help construct the [2:46:38, 2:46:39]: The quiet zone. [2:46:40, 2:46:46]: Um there. Uh that is of course contingent upon uh the council's approval of the resolution. [2:46:47, 2:46:50]: And um Norfolk Southern. [2:46:50, 2:46:54]: Of course, as a matter of uh safety matters and issues. [2:46:54, 2:46:58]: have looked at several crossings uh throughout the state and quite honestly throughout the nation. [2:46:59, 2:47:02]: And um this is a part of what they are requesting. [2:47:03, 2:47:04]: Um to [2:47:05, 2:47:06]: uh move this forward. [2:47:07, 2:47:12]: Uh there's also uh then been discussions with them about some real estate transactions. [2:47:12, 2:47:14]: that could take place regarding [2:47:14, 2:47:17]: Some areas there along the right of way and then the rail yard. [2:47:18, 2:47:22]: All of this though is contingent upon uh the approval of the council. [2:47:23, 2:47:24]: Uh per resolution. [2:47:25, 2:47:26]: А фортекет зон. [2:47:27, 2:47:34]: Then we would uh provide that quiet zone and subsequent uh crossing or closing of Nolan Street, which is but what is being [2:47:34, 2:47:36]: I mentioned and requested from [2:47:37, 2:47:37]: Norfolk Southern. [2:47:38, 2:47:42]: And that will set this process in motion uh to begin those uh matters. [2:47:44, 2:47:47]: Okay, thank you, sir. Mr. Blount, you had your hand up earlier. [2:47:47, 2:47:51]: Yeah, forgive me, Mr. Knighton, if I don't remember or recall. [2:47:51, 2:48:00]: Um and you said something about Norfolk Southern may have possibly have some contingencies in in this themselves. Um [2:48:01, 2:48:03]: And I don't know if we need to talk about this up front. [2:48:04, 2:48:07]: But when we talked about the storage area. [2:48:07, 2:48:09]: It's right there in downtown. [2:48:10, 2:48:13]: Was that were were those discussions for stock bridge? [2:48:14, 2:48:15]: Uh so [2:48:16, 2:48:17]: Those [2:48:17, 2:48:18]: There it is. [2:48:18, 2:48:20]: That was a part of the discussion, yes. [2:48:21, 2:48:22]: And the first step [2:48:22, 2:48:23]: I'm sorry, go ahead. [2:48:23, 2:48:24]: Okay, I'm sorry. [2:48:25, 2:48:29]: I was gonna say yes. And then the first step of that to put all of this in motion then. [2:48:30, 2:48:33]: Is the resolution to be passed for the quiet zone which would then [2:48:34, 2:48:41]: trigger the closing of Nolan Street and then any potential real estate real estate transactions that would be a part of this package. [2:48:43, 2:48:43]: [10125.0, 10125.3]: [2:48:45, 2:48:46]: Mr. Thomas, please. [2:48:48, 2:48:49]: Thank you, Mayor. [2:48:50, 2:48:56]: I just really just want to reiterate my statement by saying I think all of the council members ought to know. [2:48:57, 2:48:59]: Exactly how I feel about this particular issue. [2:49:00, 2:49:04]: And the fact that the choir zone and the closing. [2:49:04, 2:49:07]: Is in this one document. It has sort of been [2:49:08, 2:49:09]: lump together. [2:49:09, 2:49:14]: So I just want to just go on record because I am an advocate for downtown development. [2:49:14, 2:49:16]: I think that is without question. [2:49:17, 2:49:20]: Uh and I do understand where we're trying to go. [2:49:20, 2:49:23]: Uh in our development, our downtown. [2:49:24, 2:49:32]: Uh I am for the record, I am in favor of the quiet zone. And I have expressed uh my concern about the closing of Nolan. [2:49:33, 2:49:36]: So the fact that these two issues [2:49:36, 2:49:39]: Are lumped into to one resolution. [2:49:39, 2:49:41]: Uh I would have to vote against that. [2:49:41, 2:49:44]: But I just want to be on record of saying that [2:49:44, 2:49:48]: You know, I understand and I know exactly where we're trying to go. [2:49:48, 2:49:51]: Uh in our downtown and and I I commend [2:49:51, 2:49:56]: Um this council for moving forward to create that. [2:49:56, 2:50:02]: uh vibrant and and robust downtown. So I I don't have I don't have an issue with that. But [2:50:02, 2:50:04]: Uh I I have to speak for [2:50:05, 2:50:07]: Uh those citizens that live [2:50:08, 2:50:10]: Uh in that T Street area. [2:50:10, 2:50:14]: The motorists that ha that to travel through there. [2:50:14, 2:50:24]: uh all of the the the parents and and this the school kids and everyone that used that crossing to to get to uh Stockbridge elementary school and [2:50:24, 2:50:30]: the negative impact that it's going to have. So I I have to advocate for them. [2:50:31, 2:50:33]: And I just want to uh for this for the record. [2:50:34, 2:50:37]: Uh this is my uh statement, these are my concerns. [2:50:37, 2:50:40]: I am in favor of the quiet zone. [2:50:40, 2:50:42]: But I cannot vote in favor of the [2:50:42, 2:50:44]: uh closing of Nola. [2:50:44, 2:50:46]: And the fact that it is in [2:50:47, 2:50:48]: One packet. [2:50:48, 2:50:51]: I'll have to vote against it and I just want that for the record. [2:50:52, 2:50:54]: Thank you. Uh Mayor Protam, go ahead, please. [2:50:54, 2:51:06]: Yes, sir. Um, you know, Councilman Thomas, we're very sensitive to those particular issues. I'm very sensitive to the fact on my amphitheater towards the horn is blowing. [2:51:06, 2:51:07]: On the train. [2:51:07, 2:51:18]: uh when those tours are going on. I cannot imagine us being in a situation where we're having concerts and we have this train horn blowing [2:51:19, 2:51:21]: Every thirty minutes during a concert. [2:51:22, 2:51:27]: It's intolerable for us to even think of considering that. This is another project that I wish [2:51:27, 2:51:29]: We have moved the war forward with [2:51:29, 2:51:34]: uh sooner because the first couple of concerts probably gonna have the horn bowling. [2:51:34, 2:51:35]: So [2:51:35, 2:51:37]: We just need to make sure that we're [2:51:38, 2:51:42]: uh very sensitive to what's going on in terms of economic development. [2:51:43, 2:51:56]: But there is a solution that I've heard from Councilman Thomas and various residents that live in that area. And I think Councilman Thomas actually made this recommendation, which was extending Nolan Street. [2:51:56, 2:51:58]: Over to McCain Creek. [2:51:59, 2:52:19]: Uh I think what we can do is we can do something very similar to what we just did and have two motions uh go forward uh in terms of making sure that we uh go ahead and approve this, but also at the same time making sure that we commit this council to extending Nolan Street uh over to [2:52:19, 2:52:20]: McCain Creek. [2:52:20, 2:52:23]: Uh, where there could be a future traffic light there. [2:52:23, 2:52:25]: Because residents in that area [2:52:26, 2:52:29]: If you got your ear to the ground and you talk to them, they'll tell you. [2:52:29, 2:52:33]: It's almost impossible to make a left hand turn. [2:52:33, 2:52:35]: Out of Thai Street. [2:52:35, 2:52:37]: And they need that access. [2:52:37, 2:52:39]: But in the end [2:52:39, 2:52:50]: uh if we close Nolan Street going across the tracks and then we extend Nolan Street on the other side over to McCain Creek and then we were able to apply the G dot [2:52:50, 2:52:52]: For a traffic light and they granted that. [2:52:52, 2:52:55]: They would have better access than they have today. [2:52:55, 2:52:57]: And then it will be safer. [2:52:57, 2:53:00]: Because they've often wanted the tie street. [2:53:00, 2:53:07]: light, but G Dot would not give him the light because it's too close to the bridge. But in the end, McCain Creek. [2:53:07, 2:53:10]: Could probably get the light that the residents won't. [2:53:10, 2:53:20]: uh in that particular area because that left hand turn is very dangerous got coming out of there is very dangerous and that's something that we've often wanted to address. [2:53:21, 2:53:24]: On the other side of that, again, as councilman Blount mentioned. [2:53:25, 2:53:26]: Cleaning up the downtown area. [2:53:27, 2:53:29]: We cannot have those rail ties. [2:53:30, 2:53:39]: you know, clouding up our downtown area, that rail station. That's old and outdated. We need to move that out of downtown and to even begin the discussion. [2:53:39, 2:53:41]: of having moving that [2:53:42, 2:54:02]: uh eyesore out of our downtown is that this is the first move that we make. Sometimes you have to do things that are distasteful in order for us to move, uh move in this particular direction. And I understand Councilman Thomas is voting his conscience. And sometimes that's what you have to do. You have to vote your conscience. [2:54:02, 2:54:12]: But in the end, this is something that is gonna be an absolute must for the city uh moving forward with economic development uh uh as well, because even on the other side. [2:54:13, 2:54:14]: Uh, when you're having a play. [2:54:15, 2:54:18]: Uh in the Carrie May Hamrick Center and the horn on the trade is blowing. [2:54:19, 2:54:23]: Uh pretty close to that facility, you'll probably be able to hear it there too. So [2:54:23, 2:54:24]: I think in the end [2:54:25, 2:54:28]: Uh, it will be an improvement for downtown for us to move forward. [2:54:29, 2:54:32]: Uh with this project cleaning up the ice or [2:54:32, 2:54:34]: uh that we have in downtown. [2:54:34, 2:54:36]: Quieting the train and in the end. [2:54:37, 2:54:40]: Giving those residents better access uh out of McCain Creek. [2:54:42, 2:55:02]: Well, on that note, let me mention this to you, mayor pretend the rest of the council. Extending Nolan Street, we haven't done any type of um uh assessment of that and what the cost would be in right-of-way or road extension purchasing land. And so we have to really do that thoroughly to get an idea of what we're dealing with. And then also the a stoplight at McCain Creek, not sure. [2:55:02, 2:55:22]: Whether or not GDOT would have approved that. It seemed like it would be far enough from the bridge, and far enough, of course, obviously from uh from flipping to do so, but we don't know that for sure. So it's something, some additional homework we need to do before we can honestly say that this can be done. I mean the thought process of doing this is great, but whether or not it can legally be done, just don't know that yet because we have. [2:55:22, 2:55:27]: have additional research to do. I I would think anyway. Foo for thought. Mr. Thomas, please. [2:55:27, 2:55:32]: Uh yes, thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Uh I did bring this up and we have discussed that. [2:55:32, 2:55:35]: Um, let me just speak to [2:55:35, 2:55:37]: That part of Nolan [2:55:38, 2:55:39]: Um [2:55:41, 2:55:43]: That property is being cleaned up. [2:55:43, 2:55:46]: You actually can almost see. [2:55:46, 2:55:50]: Um their street there at McCain Creek, you can [2:55:50, 2:55:52]: You can pretty much see that now. Um [2:55:53, 2:56:03]: Maybe after this vote, Mr. Knight, maybe we can sort of test you and staff to to look into that because someone is cleaning that property off. [2:56:03, 2:56:05]: 'Cause it was a house there. [2:56:05, 2:56:08]: I don't know well I do know who actually owned it. [2:56:09, 2:56:09]: Uh [2:56:10, 2:56:15]: And I won't really get into that, but uh the property's being cleaned off, so I'm thinking [2:56:15, 2:56:24]: that something may be getting ready to happen there. So if we're going to look into that, Mr. Nine, we probably need to look into that as well. And and I will say this also. [2:56:24, 2:56:27]: Uh even for the uh homeowners that live on McCain. [2:56:28, 2:56:47]: uh it's hard for them to make a left as well. And I I think even though the traffic light may or may not come, I just think the extension of Nolan out, I I think you still saw the getaway from that traffic coming over the bridge and the traffic that tries to come out of a food depot. [2:56:47, 2:56:49]: And the traffic that comes out of Burke Street. [2:56:50, 2:56:53]: So if you took that back up to McCain Creek. [2:56:53, 2:56:56]: It it would sort of take you away from [2:56:57, 2:57:02]: uh that congestion right there. So I would be in favor that and [2:57:02, 2:57:04]: Uh McCain Creek. [2:57:04, 2:57:07]: It sort of lines up with Center Street. [2:57:08, 2:57:10]: And Center Street runs [2:57:10, 2:57:13]: on the other side of the bank into the [2:57:13, 2:57:16]: uh cultural art facility. And lastly [2:57:17, 2:57:20]: When we d make this discussion with Norfolk Southern [2:57:21, 2:57:23]: Let's make sure that the yard. [2:57:24, 2:57:25]: It's going in the [2:57:26, 2:57:40]: other direction. The yard do not need to be moved uh down ML King anywhere. Uh I would say it needs to go in the other direction, East Atlanta Road toward Valley Hill. [2:57:40, 2:57:41]: For sure. [2:57:41, 2:57:44]: Uh, because we do not want to clutter up. [2:57:44, 2:57:46]: Uh ML King. So I'm saying that, Mr. Knight. [2:57:47, 2:57:50]: So whoever's going to talk to uh to the railroad [2:57:51, 2:57:52]: Please let's not [2:57:52, 2:57:54]: Take the yard in that direction. [2:57:55, 2:58:00]: Thank you, Mayor. Oh no problem. Welcome, sir. Uh Councilman Blount, I think you hand your hand up next. [2:58:00, 2:58:05]: Yeah, thank you, man. Uh one of the things I've said, uh, and I agree that w you know. [2:58:06, 2:58:14]: Uh we've always heard the term that we you know, in in order to get anything done, you gotta put some kind of skin in the game. And when Norfolk Southern said our skin in the game. [2:58:15, 2:58:17]: is outlined then we have to make a determination [2:58:18, 2:58:21]: Is this what we want to do to better mint the future of stop bridge in downtown? [2:58:22, 2:58:23]: Because that horn blowing. [2:58:24, 2:58:30]: Uh how you can how would you develop any new residence and all and new businesses and all this with the horn blowing? [2:58:30, 2:58:32]: So but but we also have to look at the [2:58:33, 2:58:42]: When we talk about moving that road over through McCain Creek, that a lot of the proper uh couple of properties in McCain Creek have been cleaned up by the citizens. [2:58:42, 2:58:45]: They don't have an HOA over in Kane McCain Creek. [2:58:45, 2:58:49]: And they'll clean it up. I've had GFL uh G was GFL now. [2:58:50, 2:58:54]: to go over there on on a couple of occasions and I and I thank Mr. Nighting for [2:58:54, 2:59:02]: Uh being on top of that, when I've called him, I thank you for that, Mr. Knighton, because they're cleaning up that community over there. So when we talk about what's feasible. [2:59:03, 2:59:09]: for to extend a road through that and but but we don't even have any certainties that a light would be placed on [2:59:10, 2:59:12]: Tide Street for North Henry Boulevard. [2:59:12, 2:59:15]: Uh like I said before in the last meeting. [2:59:15, 2:59:17]: It's hard to make a left turn anywhere. [2:59:18, 2:59:29]: Anywhere on North Henry Boulevard. Go up there by go up there and see the accidents. You guys see the accidents and all that are happening on North Henry Boulevard. So there are a need for sh could uh uh [2:59:29, 2:59:30]: Um lights. [2:59:31, 2:59:37]: Uh, maybe more traffic control. I think I think that North Pavery Boulevard is an ideal street to put a medium in for traffic control. [2:59:37, 2:59:43]: But that's you can't make a left turn anywhere on on uh you can't even make a left turn out of uh city hall. [2:59:44, 2:59:46]: Out of the parking lot here without a danger. [2:59:47, 2:59:48]: And so we talk about [2:59:49, 2:59:55]: A motion tonight. I hope that motion that if we want if you you guys agree to do a feasibility on on on that happening. [2:59:56, 3:00:08]: that we don't make a a motion for a community to go to put a road through a community without first talking to that community. So I think that first of all we need we need to think about that. [3:00:09, 3:00:19]: And when we talk about uh acquisitions and all that, that we're not putting a we're not writing a blank check to move forward with something that we don't ha haven't done a feasibility study on to even know the cost. [3:00:19, 3:00:23]: So I think that uh those things are intact, but I think the overall [3:00:23, 3:00:32]: uh the motion on this and and because some of us, you know, other you know, we understand uh councilman Thomas' position on on the um [3:00:33, 3:00:34]: Closing on Olin Street. [3:00:34, 3:00:40]: Uh but initially we was told that about kids crossing Oldland Street, going to school and [3:00:40, 3:00:41]: Uh but [3:00:42, 3:00:45]: You know, Stockbridge Elementary starts at at the third grade. [3:00:45, 3:00:48]: And I think you're what, eight years old in the third grade. [3:00:49, 3:00:53]: Um, so you wouldn't be traveling alone by yourself going to school. [3:00:53, 3:00:59]: And that just me and I uh you know, this is not alleviating Mr. Councilman Thomas's uh concerns. [3:00:59, 3:01:09]: Um, they're parking the trains even now. They're parking the trains even now along on across Nolan Streets for whatever reason. I don't know if it has anything to do with what they're doing at the rock quarter. [3:01:09, 3:01:19]: But um I think that what we need to do is look at what's some of the some of these decisions that need to be made, we make it. But I think before we move forward with any kind of vote through a community. [3:01:19, 3:01:30]: that we first talk to that community and then we do and first of all do a feasibility study to see what the cost of what it's all gonna entail. Because even with that, and I agree with the mayor, it's still no guarantee a light will be put. [3:01:30, 3:01:35]: By G Dot right down uh tie street. So you still gonna have the problems. You gonna have more cars backed up to do it. [3:01:36, 3:01:37]: Ms. Gantt please. [3:01:39, 3:01:42]: Thank you, Mayor. Um and council. [3:01:42, 3:01:45]: I think we're all sensitive to the issues at hand. [3:01:46, 3:01:50]: And understand Councilman Thomas's concerns. [3:01:51, 3:01:51]: I [3:01:52, 3:01:56]: Don't agree with making a separate motion. [3:01:56, 3:02:00]: to agree that we're gonna go ahead and say we're gonna put a road anywhere. [3:02:01, 3:02:02]: Um [3:02:02, 3:02:03]: Without cost. [3:02:04, 3:02:11]: without studies. Um I agree with everyone with what you've already said. I don't think anyone would be against it. [3:02:12, 3:02:14]: I think it would be irresponsible of us to. [3:02:15, 3:02:18]: Just vote for something and say we're gonna do something. [3:02:18, 3:02:19]: Um [3:02:19, 3:02:27]: to our constituents when we really don't know what the cost and what the fees and what what all this is going to entail. [3:02:28, 3:02:29]: Right now [3:02:29, 3:02:33]: Um, based off of our agenda, we were supposed to be voting. [3:02:33, 3:02:38]: on whether or not there was a silencer of a silent quiet zone. [3:02:38, 3:02:40]: That we desperately need. [3:02:40, 3:02:42]: And that the railroad is [3:02:43, 3:02:47]: um willing to work with us on. I agree with Councilman Thomas. I'm hoping that [3:02:47, 3:02:48]: That storage. [3:02:49, 3:02:55]: area that's there is moved the opposite direction. I it definitely doesn't need to be within our downtown. [3:02:56, 3:02:56]: Um [3:02:58, 3:02:59]: area of which he stated. [3:02:59, 3:03:01]: I do think that [3:03:02, 3:03:09]: We do need to be um strategic with that and and in regards to. [3:03:10, 3:03:30]: where we are going to put a road. I can't make any promises. I'm not going to try to make any promises to citizens on agreeing to such things if I don't know the cost. I don't know we've we've learned that through our past experiences with the amphitheater and with our designs for the art center, you name it. [3:03:30, 3:03:32]: So I don't want to make a promise. [3:03:32, 3:03:36]: On something without having all the details. [3:03:36, 3:03:38]: And knowing what it's gonna take first. [3:03:38, 3:03:41]: Not that I'm against it. I just think it would be responsible. [3:03:41, 3:03:43]: Um, irresponsible of me to do so. [3:03:44, 3:03:44]: So [3:03:45, 3:03:46]: Having said that, I agree. [3:03:47, 3:03:47]: Um [3:03:48, 3:03:49]: But what everyone is saying. [3:03:50, 3:03:52]: And I definitely want to look into that. [3:03:52, 3:03:58]: for roads and for stoplights and and you name it. But right now I can only vote. [3:03:58, 3:04:00]: in favor of the quiet zone. [3:04:01, 3:04:02]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [3:04:03, 3:04:07]: Let let me be clear. Uh I'm okay with [3:04:08, 3:04:12]: the agenda item as it stands. Let me be clear with that first. [3:04:12, 3:04:17]: I'm okay. I I came in this meeting tonight to say what I had to say. [3:04:17, 3:04:19]: And not to promote. [3:04:19, 3:04:23]: uh a new road number one. So I'm I'm okay with the agenda item. [3:04:23, 3:04:29]: I I I would hope that we look into it, but let me be clear about something else too. Um [3:04:30, 3:04:36]: The road does not run through McCain Creek, number one. It does not. [3:04:37, 3:04:41]: Uh the road Nolan Street lines up more with [3:04:42, 3:04:42]: Um [3:04:42, 3:04:44]: The Methodist church. [3:04:45, 3:04:45]: Um [3:04:46, 3:04:47]: Again. [3:04:47, 3:04:49]: It does not, it's nowhere near [3:04:50, 3:04:55]: the community of McCain Creek. I just want to state that for the record because I don't want no [3:04:55, 3:05:01]: uh homeowners in McCain Creek to think that we're going to build a new road through their [3:05:01, 3:05:02]: Subdivision, no. [3:05:03, 3:05:07]: The road doesn't even line up with McCain Creek. The road lines up with uh [3:05:08, 3:05:11]: the Methodist church and it's actually closer to [3:05:11, 3:05:14]: uh North Henry Boulevard than it is to [3:05:14, 3:05:18]: uh the McCain Creek Cell Division because if anyone's familiar with McCain Creek. [3:05:19, 3:05:30]: That road it's a it's a somewhat of a drive through down even before you even get to the first house uh in McCain Creek. And I I just wanted to just state that because I don't want [3:05:30, 3:05:33]: Any homeowners in McCain Creek to be alarmed. [3:05:33, 3:05:35]: But I I'm prepared tonight again. [3:05:35, 3:05:48]: Just to vote on the item that that we are talking about. And I would just encourage and I you know, Mr. Knight, I I think we can do the study. We can ride out and look at I'm okay with that. I'm not advocating for us to [3:05:49, 3:05:52]: Just jump out there. But let me just say this too, when we talk about [3:05:52, 3:05:55]: We don't know the cost, we don't know the cost, we don't know the cost. [3:05:56, 3:06:11]: You know, we're going forward with um Lee Street and and Bryant and we don't know the cost. So I'm just I'm just saying, let's just be consistent, you know, in our rhetoric. Uh, but again, I'm prepared to vote on the item that that that is here. [3:06:11, 3:06:29]: Um, but I these are the statements I I just I just want to make because when I hear something that's not consistent, uh I'm gonna always speak to it. But mayor, I'm willing to just move forward and vote on the item that we can prepare to. Um I just wanted to make my statement for the record. [3:06:29, 3:06:30]: All right, no problem. [3:06:30, 3:06:31]: Purple Tim, go away, please. [3:06:32, 3:06:52]: Yeah, let's just be very clear. I don't think nobody in their right mind would just go out and say, okay, we're gonna just build a road. I think what we've heard tonight is we do have a consensus that there's some interest in that particular project. The council has clearly communicated to the staff there is some interest uh in pursuing [3:06:52, 3:07:07]: that project if it's feasible. So I think that's kind of what we want to go. But it the question at hand, I move to approve uh this uh recommendation by staffs so we can move forward with downtown uh development. [3:07:08, 3:07:08]: All right, second. [3:07:10, 3:07:11]: Is there a second? [3:07:14, 3:07:21]: M Mr. Blount seconds that motion. Okay. I guess we have plenty of discussion, so all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:07:23, 3:07:24]: Hi. [3:07:24, 3:07:28]: Okay. All pose. Miss Barber, are you I uh yay or nay? [3:07:30, 3:07:35]: I approved. Okay, so it's four and mister and Mr. Thomas, I guess, is a name. [3:07:36, 3:07:40]: Or you abstain. I want to abstain simply because but I want to make sure [3:07:41, 3:07:45]: If I'm uh one for Stane, I just have to make sure that my record [3:07:45, 3:07:48]: That my comments are there for the record, so [3:07:48, 3:07:55]: I will uh abstain from the vote as long as my record, my comments are noted. [3:07:55, 3:08:00]: Your comments are noted, sir. Four zero one. Motion passed. Okay. [3:08:00, 3:08:20]: For discussion purposes, uh council discussion of the amendment of job descriptions for the executive assistant to mayor council and admin assistant to mayor council. And what this amounts to, oh, let's see here, next page over. Yeah, positions. Okay, and Miss Wheeler's online. Now, what's amount? This is dealing with the the actual job description itself. So since it's [3:08:20, 3:08:40]: not about uh individual and individual per se, so it's not an executive session issue. So this is uh this is something that we have to discuss uh publicly in this aspect as well. Now granted uh several of you have turned in some ideas and thoughts on how this should be these positions should be written up and that's the way that uh and and [3:08:40, 3:09:00]: And what I understand is that the Ms. Willer's got whatever she's received from the council and to to consolidate these and and bring this forward uh for uh discussion or approval in this aspect. Um don't know if we want to how deep we want to get in this at this point, but it's uh once again, if we're gonna discuss this, we'll have to do it publicly and not as equivalent. [3:09:00, 3:09:06]: possession because it deals with just a job description in this aspect. Um so Miss Willer, please. [3:09:07, 3:09:11]: Well let me Okay, I'm I'm sorry. Mr. Knight, you won't go ahead, sir. [3:09:11, 3:09:17]: Yeah, I was gonna mention Mayor, I think that is correct in some consultation with the attorneys about how this would need to be [3:09:18, 3:09:22]: Since it's it's a job description, it's not a specific person. [3:09:22, 3:09:28]: It's something that would uh not be subject to um executive session, but would have to be discussed. [3:09:28, 3:09:31]: uh openly with respect to job description. [3:09:31, 3:09:34]: I think the impetus for this was to um [3:09:34, 3:09:37]: uh to provide to the council. [3:09:37, 3:09:39]: An opportunity to discuss. [3:09:40, 3:09:45]: uh various aspects as you see it for the executive assistant to the mayor and council because that person obviously [3:09:46, 3:09:49]: Reports and work uh works for you all collectively. [3:09:49, 3:09:53]: And then also the assistant position and how you would see [3:09:53, 3:09:57]: uh specific aspects of those job duties and functions [3:09:58, 3:10:00]: being incorporated into those [3:10:00, 3:10:03]: particular job descriptions. We want to make sure that [3:10:04, 3:10:09]: It fully incorporates your thoughts with respect to job duties and responsibilities. [3:10:10, 3:10:13]: And then that can be crafted in a way uh to be placed in a job description. [3:10:14, 3:10:18]: uh that uh can be placed out uh for potential [3:10:18, 3:10:21]: uh people to apply for said description. [3:10:21, 3:10:26]: I'll defer to Mr. Washington if there's anything else that needs to be added with respect to that. [3:10:28, 3:10:38]: No, Mr. Night, I was just going to say that, you know, these types of comments, I mean, that we can have a broad range of discussion about it, but I think these comments can just be emailed to Ms. Wheeler. [3:10:38, 3:10:41]: And at that point when we have the [3:10:42, 3:10:47]: final draft back if council has other things that they want to put in the description, it can be done and sent back then. [3:10:51, 3:10:52]: Thank you, sir. [3:10:53, 3:10:53]: Okay. [3:10:54, 3:10:56]: Ms. Willer, do you have anything you need to add, ma'am? [3:10:57, 3:11:01]: Now I just need the comments back so we can um post the position. [3:11:03, 3:11:04]: Okay. [3:11:06, 3:11:07]: Anything else from the council? [3:11:11, 3:11:12]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [3:11:13, 3:11:15]: I like to know when when um [3:11:16, 3:11:17]: It's familiar. [3:11:18, 3:11:22]: Have you set a deadline for these comments to come in from the council? [3:11:24, 3:11:27]: I think previously I did. Um [3:11:28, 3:11:39]: Have you set a new sign for this? I have not. That's why it's on the agenda today, so that I would get some feedback from council members on what the consensus is for the job description. [3:11:40, 3:11:41]: So that we can move forward. [3:11:42, 3:11:44]: Thank you. I know that um [3:11:44, 3:11:47]: I sent you my comments back in May. [3:11:47, 3:11:51]: So can we set a deadline for the rest of the council? [3:11:51, 3:11:52]: For their input. [3:11:53, 3:11:53]: Um [3:11:53, 3:11:55]: By the end of August. [3:11:55, 3:11:57]: We need to get these positions field. [3:11:59, 3:12:05]: Okay. You know, in the meantime you don't have an executive assistant or an admin in that position, so [3:12:05, 3:12:08]: Exactly. Thank you. The end of August. [3:12:12, 3:12:13]: Okay. Fine with me. [3:12:14, 3:12:16]: So we're talking about the thirty first of August. [3:12:17, 3:12:20]: Yes. Okay, thirty first of August it is. [3:12:21, 3:12:28]: You don't need to vote on that with right uh in a sense, right? You need to state that. This mayor. This mayor. [3:12:28, 3:12:35]: I think there was some confusion on that. As of tomorrow, you will not have an executive assistant or an admin. [3:12:36, 3:12:37]: Until [3:12:37, 3:12:39]: August thirty first. [3:12:40, 3:12:40]: It's one [3:12:43, 3:12:45]: Well it's not saying until they're saying [3:12:45, 3:12:47]: They're not going to get the comments back. [3:12:47, 3:12:49]: Until August thirty first. [3:12:51, 3:12:59]: So if the comments don't come back to August 31st, it takes anytime anywhere from 30 to 45 days to onboard a person into the position. [3:13:00, 3:13:02]: Miss Sonovia will not be back until. [3:13:03, 3:13:06]: Афтес мид август. [3:13:07, 3:13:15]: Okay, so the reason why I said August thirty first because I know we all are attending um the GMA convention. [3:13:15, 3:13:16]: Um [3:13:16, 3:13:17]: So [3:13:17, 3:13:19]: The first two weeks. [3:13:19, 3:13:22]: is probably not good for the rest of the council. [3:13:23, 3:13:25]: Um so I'll let my count. [3:13:25, 3:13:28]: Come up with a deadline for these comments. [3:13:29, 3:13:29]: Back to you. [3:13:31, 3:13:31]: All right. [3:13:34, 3:13:40]: Well, thirty-first is thirty-one days. How about the the fifteenth? I don't know what the fifteenth of August looks like. What day of the week is that? [3:13:41, 3:13:47]: Can we do it can we have all those comments back to HR prior to our work session in August? [3:13:49, 3:13:57]: Councilmates. Yeah, that sounds fine to me. The fifteenth is actually a Sunday, so and our and our work session will be on the twenty [3:13:58, 3:14:10]: Fourth. It works us on the twenty-fourth of August, August uh I believe it's actually August thirty first. It'll be the thirty-first. Remember we had a modified city council meeting, which will be on the sixteenth. [3:14:10, 3:14:17]: Okay. That date and then the work session would be on the thirty first. That's correct. Well, can I get them back by August thirteenth? Is two weeks. [3:14:17, 3:14:20]: Too soon for anybody to respond. [3:14:20, 3:14:23]: on whether or not they want the job description as it's written or not. [3:14:23, 3:14:25]: Mm. Thirteen's good. [3:14:26, 3:14:27]: With me anyway. [3:14:28, 3:14:30]: I've already sent you mine. [3:14:30, 3:14:35]: I don't mind we've already incorporated yours, Miss Barber. I need some consensus from the rest of the council. [3:14:36, 3:14:37]: On the [3:14:38, 3:14:39]: The major job duties. [3:14:40, 3:14:41]: And if you all agree upon'em. [3:14:42, 3:14:44]: I'm I'm okay with the thirteen. [3:14:45, 3:14:46]: All right. [3:14:48, 3:14:55]: Okay, thank you. Yeah, 13th actually is a Friday as well. Friday the thirteenth on top of that. Wow. Okay. [3:14:55, 3:14:58]: All right. On that note, comments from me. [3:14:59, 3:15:03]: Citizens of course council knows the citizens is uh with great uh [3:15:04, 3:15:05]: Great. [3:15:06, 3:15:26]: Big heart, a bit with a big heart of sense, and not sympathy, but a sense of condolences. And then we're pretty saddened in the sense that our beloved um events manager, CC Wilson McGee, passed away a few days ago. And um CeC is an award-winning events manager, and for five [3:15:26, 3:15:46]: Five plus years, all the events, city events that we've had in the city, and we've had plenty of successful events, as her and her staff that have conducted and managed these events for us. And she'd be truly missed in this aspect. So uh we've we've have very fond memories. [3:15:45, 3:16:05]: of CC and uh condolences to the family and wish her family well and we're definitely she's in a better place. She's with the good Lord now in this aspect as well. And she has been a she was a a breast cancer survivor and actually was the was a callus for our breast uh uh breast cancer survivor or awareness luncheon that we had in the city and we still can [3:16:05, 3:16:07]: continue to have. So on that note. [3:16:08, 3:16:10]: I want us to just take time. [3:16:10, 3:16:18]: A few seconds, 10 seconds, 15 seconds to be quiet and just to honor C C in this aspect. So please be quiet for a brief moment, please. [3:16:40, 3:16:49]: Thank you, Council, citizens, and continue to keep the city primarily in this this difficult time ceasing her family in your prayers. [3:16:51, 3:16:59]: Just since COVID 19 is still out there. The very the uh Delta variant is upon us. It's been upon us and and this is a serious business. [3:16:59, 3:17:02]: And so what we have is that right now in Henry County. [3:17:03, 3:17:10]: We have conf twenty thousand four hundred and thirty six confirmed cases ever since this COVID nineteen started a roughly a year and a half ago. [3:17:10, 3:17:14]: twenty thousand, almost twenty t twenty thousand five hundred, almost twenty thousand five hundred people. [3:17:14, 3:17:15]: In [3:17:15, 3:17:16]: The county. [3:17:16, 3:17:18]: Have ri have have a contracted [3:17:19, 3:17:20]: uh ковід найти [3:17:21, 3:17:23]: Three hundred and thir fourteen people have passed away. [3:17:24, 3:17:31]: We have to get a handle on this folks. And right now, if you listen to the the the the the science and the media and the doctors that are speaking. [3:17:31, 3:17:33]: On the local news, national news. [3:17:34, 3:17:38]: What they're indicating that people that have COVID nineteen now that are in hospitals. [3:17:38, 3:17:41]: That are on an ICU, they're on ventilating machines. [3:17:42, 3:17:47]: are individuals that have not taken a vaccination that have not. [3:17:48, 3:17:51]: They're the ones that get it sick. You have not taken it. So if you have it [3:17:52, 3:17:55]: taking a vaccination again or get tested, please do so. [3:17:55, 3:17:57]: Because it's not getting any better right now. [3:17:58, 3:18:00]: And uh and actually if we don't take it. [3:18:01, 3:18:02]: Unfortunately. [3:18:02, 3:18:04]: The way the trend is going. [3:18:04, 3:18:09]: You'll probably get sick. And unfortunately, you may pass, but we don't want that. Your loved ones don't want that. [3:18:10, 3:18:12]: So please take the time to [3:18:12, 3:18:15]: Get tested. We offer free testing. [3:18:15, 3:18:31]: of uh for COVID 19 and we offer that right here in Henry County. You can you can do this at the Red Hawk Field, which is at one four uh 143 Henry Parkway, right across from the the admin office, the head admin office for the county commission. [3:18:32, 3:18:38]: On Tuesdays or Thursdays, nine AM to three PM, Red Hawk Field, nine AM to three PM for testing. [3:18:38, 3:18:42]: of the COVID nineteen free of charge. All you have to do is call eight hundred [3:18:43, 3:18:47]: 847-42627 appointment and get it done. [3:18:47, 3:18:52]: You can also get get uh vaccinations free of charge as well. [3:18:52, 3:19:00]: The National Health Department line, you know, that you can call 888-457-0186. Once again, 888-880-880-88 [3:19:01, 3:19:08]: four five seven zero one eight six and you can sell an appointment for a actual vaccination. And of course when you do that [3:19:09, 3:19:29]: They're going to ask you about the demographics and who who you are, your health history, your age, if you had any past infections, uh, if you've been tested for COVID before, positive before, and your vaccination status and all your contact information. But please, folks, you got you got to get this done. Because the there's a [3:19:29, 3:19:49]: lot of talk now about going back to mandatory um uh mask wearing uh in a closed environment even for people who have the vaccination like myself and i would say that the entire council uh has been vaccinated as well but now it's a lot of talk about us want to go back have to go back to masks wearing masks even for people that are vaccinated in this aspect [3:19:49, 3:19:58]: So please do this. It's for your for your health, for your family's health, your loved ones' health, and for us to keep each other healthy and safe. Um [3:19:58, 3:20:01]: So this is serious stuff. [3:20:01, 3:20:05]: And um something that uh I would hope that you would adhere to. [3:20:06, 3:20:23]: and that you would um individually take serious and and get a vaccination, get the right information, trust the science, talk to your doctors if they have to do that, talk to loved ones, talk to individuals that had family members that have gotten sick and recovered, or unfortunately family members that have gotten sick and not recovered. [3:20:23, 3:20:28]: They'll tell ya that this is serious stuff. Please take it seriously. [3:20:29, 3:20:49]: As you well know, we talked last month and more each and every month we'd be talking about the T-SPLOST, upcoming referendum vote on November 2nd. T Sploss is extremely important for us in Stockbridge, us in the county. We need to have this, we need to pass this. It deals with really anywhere from the five-year prior program for anywhere from 245 to 250 million. [3:20:48, 3:21:08]: Dollars and Stockbridge itself by being the largest city thus far. And we'll$30 million,$30.5 million would eventually come our way to do all kinds of projects when it comes to road extensions, a rock quarry, road widening of roads and side uh sidewalks and and all types of roads. [3:21:08, 3:21:28]: types of things that we just need in our community to make it more convenient for you to move about. Trail networks, all right. Connectivity. We need this. We need your support. We need you to vote yes on this when it comes up. And it's just a is this dealing with a penny. Deals with a penny. Say yes and deals with a penny and then it starts growing when you purchase items and people [3:21:28, 3:21:48]: Come through the town and spend money in Henry County, it's well worth it. It's something that we need to do to make sure that we have a very vibrant community. And unfortunately, folks, if we don't pass this collectively, we will suffer. All of us will suffer. It has nothing to do with ethnicities, has nothing to do with whether what political party with. All of us will suffer. [3:21:48, 3:21:50]: Suffer if this is not passed. [3:21:50, 3:22:10]: mind you so please if more information will come out we'll have a town hall at least one town hall in the city as as well to to educate uh the citizens you voters on everything that we need curb and gutter sidewalks things of this nature are all part of this process for the city of Stockbridge and uh we want to make sure that we we do this [3:22:10, 3:22:17]: And we help the city grow and get better in this process and make the life better for you, make my life better for us all. All right. [3:22:18, 3:22:21]: Uh so please more to come on that as time goes on. [3:22:21, 3:22:23]: November second, extremely important. [3:22:24, 3:22:26]: Upcoming meetings announcements, um [3:22:26, 3:22:40]: I want to mention the Main Street Advisory Board meeting the second Friday of each month, nine AM to uh nine AM it is on August thirteenth. The city council meeting uh by way of Zoom, uh Zoom right here is is um August uh sixteenth. [3:22:41, 3:22:45]: uh due to the gma annual conference and we'll be at uh savannah [3:22:45, 3:23:05]: uh from the fifth to the tenth of uh of August uh and then for our annual conference. So uh the downtown development authority meeting six p.m. by way of Zoom on the third Tuesday of each month, which is the each month, which is August 17th is the next meeting. The new council and advisory meeting is 630, of course Zoom third two Tuesday of each month. [3:23:05, 3:23:15]: which is the 17th of uh of August. Our planning commission meeting is 630 by way of Zoom on the first fourth Thursday of each month, which is August 26th. [3:23:16, 3:23:25]: And then um our next city council meeting as we talked earlier would be August 31st uh of uh of the month. And um [3:23:26, 3:23:46]: Food truck tasty Tuesday went on today. Hopefully it went on without without a hitch. I know it probably rained on them though, since it stormed in the area for a while. The next couple of Tuesdays, Food Truck Tasty Tuesday will go on to Clark Park, uh 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. So have an opportunity. Please go by to Clark Park and get yourself a nice meal, enjoy the family entertainment. [3:23:46, 3:23:47]: live entertainment that'll be there. [3:23:48, 3:23:50]: Uh Councilman Barber. [3:23:50, 3:23:57]: And we'll have her uh blood drive uh Saturday, August 21st, 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. at Merle Manor's Conference Center. [3:23:57, 3:24:17]: And uh for folks who want to talk to me about issues and concerns they have, we've got an opportunity to meet the mayor and voice uh voice your concerns and questions. And that'll be on Monday, August twenty-third, by way of uh uh virtual, by way of Zoom, uh ten AM to noon. And you can coordinate uh that by calling uh City Hall seven seven. [3:24:17, 3:24:19]: zero three eight nine seventy nine hundred [3:24:20, 3:24:21]: Афа дій зва. [3:24:22, 3:24:22]: Um [3:24:23, 3:24:33]: Council, we have a um we have a executive session. We have issues and concerns that we need to discuss. Uh so I now need a motion to uh go into executive session, please. [3:24:35, 3:24:38]: I motion that we go into executive session for personnel. [3:24:39, 3:24:41]: Real estate and litigation matters. [3:24:41, 3:24:42]: Thank you. Um [3:24:43, 3:24:44]: Is there a second? [3:24:45, 3:24:47]: Okay. Okay, good. [3:24:47, 3:24:48]: All in favor, please indicate. [3:24:50, 3:25:10]: All right. And uh one last one last thing if you don't mind. I I see here I got a message that we're going to have a Bloom release tomorrow at noon at City Hall, uh in honor of CC since tomorrow here's her birthday. Uh so we'll do that tomorrow at noon at City Hall. So any besides the council, the staff, any citizens that want to come by and be part of [3:25:10, 3:25:21]: That process, please come to City Hall at noon tomorrow for Bloom Re Bloom release in honor of CC Wilson McGee. On that note, uh Council, I'll see you in the second session probably in about the next 10 minutes here. All right. [3:25:21, 3:25:26]: Thank you. Oh, but we did take it we well, we took a vote. We're good. We announced decision, right? [3:25:27, 3:25:28]: Is that correct? [3:25:30, 3:25:31]: Okay. [3:25:32, 3:25:37]: Thank you very much. You named C C thank you very much. That's how we did. That's okay. I'll see you in a bit. Thank you. [3:25:44, 3:25:45]: Yeah. [3:38:02, 3:38:07]: Come here. All right, good deal. Okay, let's try this again. I need a motion to end the second session. [3:38:07, 3:38:08]: So more [3:38:08, 3:38:10]: A second. [3:38:10, 3:38:14]: Okay, this time it's again seconds that all in favor, indicate, please. [3:38:14, 3:38:15]: Aye. [3:38:16, 3:38:27]: Okay. I got uh well I got I got I got four. I got uh uh three. Three votes. I got three votes, that's good. Gantt, Alexander, Thomas, uh Barber did not respond. [3:38:27, 3:38:33]: All right, so I need a motion to reconvene our uh council work session. [3:38:33, 3:38:40]: So move. So move. Second. Okay, Mr. I was asked that again put in the motion. Name Miss Holliday is trying to Yes, Miss Holliday. [3:38:41, 3:38:48]: Okay, okay, fine. I was asking if anybody contacted Councilman Blount when you were coming back to this meeting. Ah, you know, I forgot to do that again. [3:38:50, 3:39:03]: Okay. Shame on the adjourned now. Right. No action, but I was just checking. Right. So the motion was made to reconvene our our council work session. On we we already got we've made a motion. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:39:03, 3:39:03]: I [3:39:04, 3:39:13]: Okay. All right. It's a unanimous four four votes there. Okay, now any motion to end our uh council work session. So moved. Okay, Ms. Gantt, who's a second? [3:39:14, 3:39:18]: Miss Barber rose her hand second. Um flavor, please indicate. [3:39:20, 3:39:24]: Okay. All right. Good. Good night, everybody. We're done. See you soon.
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    --- title: July 12 2021 City Council Meeting date: 2021-07-12 source: 2021-07-12_July_12_2021_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:05:43, 0:05:44]: [385.0, 385.7]: Mm-hmm. [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: Good evening, everybody. [0:08:38, 0:08:39]: Hey um [0:08:40, 0:08:42]: Miss Ganttz. [0:08:42, 0:08:47]: Uh I hate to put you on front street, but but would you do the invocation this evening? [0:08:50, 0:08:52]: Sure. Okay. [0:08:54, 0:08:56]: Thank you very much. Appreciate that. [0:09:00, 0:09:05]: Am I doing it now? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not now. Okay. [0:09:05, 0:09:10]: But uh I called you earlier today and you hadn't actually hadn't returned my call. So I was just wondering. All right. [0:09:11, 0:09:18]: Okay, yeah, I have I'm sorry, I'm just getting back. Okay, well I appreciate it. Thank you very much. [0:09:28, 0:09:30]: Okay. [0:09:35, 0:09:40]: And I see that we're now live streaming on Facebook as well, ladies and gentlemen. [0:10:08, 0:10:11]: [618.3, 619.0]: Yeah. [0:10:29, 0:10:30]: [640.0, 641.0]: Yeah. [0:11:21, 0:11:23]: Hello everyone. Can I be heard? [0:11:25, 0:11:31]: Can I uh can you hear me? Mira Pro Tem. Good evening to you. Thank you. [0:12:01, 0:12:02]: Mm-hmm. [0:12:27, 0:12:33]: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I actually have six o'clock and so I have a quorum, right? [0:12:34, 0:12:51]: Looks like I have a quorum there and uh the clerks in place and the council. Okay. So what I'd like to do is call this particular uh council city council meeting July twelfth uh to order, 6 p.m. And on that note, uh madam clerk, could you give us a roll call, please? [0:13:03, 0:13:05]: Madam Clerk, uh if you can hear me, could you give us a word? [0:13:07, 0:13:08]: Mm-hmm. [0:13:16, 0:13:18]: Miss Holliday, you have to unmute. [0:13:25, 0:13:27]: I have six oh one. [0:13:29, 0:13:33]: She's saying she has no audio at the moment. I'll try to work where to get it back. [0:13:33, 0:13:34]: Yeah, thank you, sir. [0:13:36, 0:13:39]: All right, stand by folks. [0:14:57, 0:14:59]: How's it coming, Mr. Bond? [0:15:08, 0:15:09]: Not there yet. [0:15:10, 0:15:12]: Okay. In about two minutes I'll be should be good. [0:15:13, 0:15:13]: Okay. [0:15:13, 0:15:15]: All right, stand by folks. [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: Thank you, sir. [0:15:26, 0:15:27]: Thank you. [0:15:52, 0:15:53]: Hello. [0:15:53, 0:15:54]: Yes, Vanessa? [0:15:55, 0:15:56]: I can't hear Mr. Ford. [0:15:59, 0:16:02]: I can hear you Vanessa. Okay. Wow. [0:16:04, 0:16:05]: Makes me think, can anybody else hear me? [0:16:07, 0:16:09]: Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. All right. [0:16:13, 0:16:14]: I'm pretty sure you got that, Mr. Bond. [0:16:19, 0:16:21]: Yeah, we're working on it. [0:16:21, 0:16:22]: Okay. [0:16:40, 0:16:41]: Yes. [0:16:46, 0:16:47]: Okay. [0:17:03, 0:17:05]: All right, Vanessa, you good to go? [0:17:05, 0:17:07]: Thank you. Yes. Fantastic. Okay. So [0:17:08, 0:17:14]: Uh called a meeting order and uh I now have what is it uh six oh five. [0:17:14, 0:17:16]: Okay, roll call please, Madam Clerk. [0:17:17, 0:17:18]: Mayor Ford. [0:17:18, 0:17:19]: Present. [0:17:19, 0:17:21]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:17:21, 0:17:22]: Present. [0:17:22, 0:17:23]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:17:23, 0:17:25]: Present? Councilman Blount. [0:17:26, 0:17:27]: Present. [0:17:27, 0:17:28]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:17:29, 0:17:29]: Is it? [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: Councilman Thomas. [0:17:31, 0:17:32]: President. [0:17:32, 0:17:34]: Therefore, do you have a quorum? [0:17:34, 0:17:35]: Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate that. [0:17:36, 0:17:38]: Uh, Councilwoman Gantt, could you give us an invocation, please? [0:17:39, 0:17:41]: Thank you. Yes. [0:17:41, 0:17:43]: Those bar heads in prayer. [0:17:43, 0:17:44]: Father God. [0:17:45, 0:17:48]: We come to you today and we pray for safety and peace. [0:17:48, 0:17:54]: For our neighborhoods, where all residents feel welcome and safe as we strive to create. [0:17:55, 0:18:01]: Pray God, we pray God that you will allow your neighbors to find safety in all of their living situations. [0:18:03, 0:18:07]: We ask for your presence in the streets and homes of our community. [0:18:07, 0:18:13]: We pray for our local law enforcement for the safety and wisdom and compassion in all circumstances. [0:18:14, 0:18:21]: We pray for comfort for those who have experienced violence. And we ask your protection of all our neighbors. [0:18:21, 0:18:35]: Lord, we also pray for our local politicians and leaders. We pray for community voices, for the community's voices to be heard in matters that impact them at a local, city, and state level. [0:18:35, 0:18:41]: Father, we ask you to give our state and local leaders wisdom, make decisions affecting our neighborhood. [0:18:42, 0:18:49]: We pray that we will be thoughtful in their decisions, in our decisions, and listen to the voices of the community. [0:18:49, 0:18:56]: We pray for courage to stand up for our community and to live with grace and dignity in our city. [0:18:57, 0:18:58]: Іти з with these things. [0:18:58, 0:19:02]: We ask for your blessings and your grace and mercy. Amen. [0:19:02, 0:19:03]: Amen. [0:19:03, 0:19:06]: Could everybody please stand for the n uh Pledge of Allegiance, please. [0:19:09, 0:19:12]: I pledge allegiance to the to the fly. [0:19:12, 0:19:14]: Of the United States of the work. [0:19:14, 0:19:18]: And two republic for which it stands, one nation. [0:19:18, 0:19:23]: under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [0:19:25, 0:19:26]: Thank you. [0:19:27, 0:19:30]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:19:31, 0:19:34]: Somo. Airport Tim is our second. [0:19:35, 0:19:35]: A second. [0:19:36, 0:19:37]: Councilman Barber. [0:19:38, 0:19:45]: No, that was Ms. Gamp. I'm sorry. Miss Gamp was voice. I'm sorry about that. Okay, the motion was made in the second. All favor, please indicate. [0:19:47, 0:20:02]: Thank you very much. It's a unanimous decision. All right, and I need uh we have the adoption uh of the minutes. Uh before you council, you have the uh minutes for the T S PLOS joint meeting, which was April um 15th of uh this year. [0:20:02, 0:20:05]: And review of the council meeting minutes, uh, which was May tenth. [0:20:06, 0:20:07]: Of this year. [0:20:07, 0:20:12]: And of course the review of our work session, which was on the twenty fifth of May. [0:20:12, 0:20:18]: Hopefully you had a chance to look at those and if those are if those minutes are correct, I need a motion for those minutes to be accepted. [0:20:19, 0:20:19]: Adopted. [0:20:22, 0:20:25]: Okay, Miss Barber made a motion. She rose her hand. Is there a second? [0:20:26, 0:20:32]: Third. Okay. That was Nair Pro Tem Alexander. Okay. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:20:34, 0:20:41]: Okay, Unanimous. Thank thank you very much. Okay. And what I have, folks, is uh they have several different proclamations uh for ceremonial. [0:20:41, 0:20:45]: uh presentation here and let me read these proclamations. I have three uh order. [0:20:46, 0:20:52]: So please bear with me. Proclamation uh dealing with the Rye, the Rye, the Rye University. [0:20:54, 0:21:06]: Whereas on June 30, 2021, marks the ninth 90th un uh anniversary of De Rye University. And whereas De Rai DeVry University's history begins with the innovative mind of its founder, Dr. Herman De Rye. [0:21:07, 0:21:15]: Who invented the portable movie projector and earned a number of patents by advancing technology early in the motion picture industry? [0:21:15, 0:21:19]: And Dr. Lee DeForce, inventor of the vacuum tube. [0:21:19, 0:21:24]: And whereas the Bry University brings a pioneer's perspective to education. [0:21:24, 0:21:27]: Embracing new opportunities to explore and discover [0:21:27, 0:21:32]: always moving forward to the future and encouraging students to dig deeper into the understanding. [0:21:32, 0:21:43]: of industry related roles of technology so they can be ready for what comes next and better equipped to find solutions that make a difference in the world of tomorrow. [0:21:43, 0:21:47]: Of Rye University strives to close society's opportunity gap. [0:21:47, 0:22:04]: by preparing le uh learners to thrive in careers shaped by continuous technological changes and through innovative programs, relative uh partnerships, and exceptional care to Ride University empower students to meaningful improve. [0:22:04, 0:22:14]: their lives, communities, and workplaces, whereas the Rye University is committed to providing proactive academic and student support to promote student satisfaction and success. [0:22:15, 0:22:21]: And whereas the Rye University is committed to accountability, transparency, publicly disclosing information. [0:22:22, 0:22:25]: That's key to the understanding of our values and how we operate. [0:22:25, 0:22:30]: Now therefore I, Anthony S four by virtue of authority vested in me as a mayor of city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:22:31, 0:22:35]: And on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander Londa, Barber John Blount, Makesha Gantt. [0:22:36, 0:22:43]: And follows the Thomas do hereby proclaim June 30th, 2021 at the Rye University Day in City of Starbree, Georgia. [0:22:44, 0:22:54]: Witness thereof I have here un here unto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the twelfth day of July of this year, by Lord two thousand and twenty-one. [0:22:55, 0:22:58]: And I signed a proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holiday. [0:23:02, 0:23:08]: Next proclamation is actually uh for Archbishop Ruth W. Smith. [0:23:09, 0:23:17]: Whereas the Light of the World Covenant Fellowship International was founded by the late Archbishop Jimmy Lee Smith in nineteen ninety. [0:23:17, 0:23:23]: Covenant Fellowship has made significant contributions to communities across the world through faithful service. [0:23:24, 0:23:31]: Whereas Light of the World Covenant Fellowship International is composed of more than two hundred thousand members across twenty-four countries. [0:23:32, 0:23:52]: Whereas, under the leadership of Archbishop Ruth W. Smith, Light of the World Covenant Fellowship International has engaged in national and global outreach efforts and expanded its ministries to serve its members and those most in need. Whereas Light of the World Covenant Fellowship International has helped to establish community food. [0:23:52, 0:24:03]: clothing banks, safe care, aftercare programs, local activ athletic activities, entertainment, arts programs, spiritual enrichment programs across the nation. [0:24:03, 0:24:11]: Whereas whereas Light of the World Covenant Fellowship International operates in Stockbridge, Georgia, here in the United States, England, Nigeria. [0:24:11, 0:24:14]: Grand Cayman Islands, Africa, East Africa. [0:24:14, 0:24:15]: India. [0:24:15, 0:24:19]: Uganda, Bahamas, Trinidad, Jamaica, Philippines, Hong Kong. [0:24:19, 0:24:22]: Singapore, Pakistan, and Liberia. [0:24:23, 0:24:39]: Members of the Covenant Fellowship have assisted in building schools, hospitals, and wells, sponsoring teachers and providing financial support for educational fees for individuals across the world. Whereas the dedicated efforts by members of the leaders of light of the World Covenant Fellowship International. [0:24:39, 0:24:45]: have contributed to its lasting success and reputation as an organization of faith, friendship, and guidance. [0:24:45, 0:24:50]: Res, the light of World Covenant Fellowship International, is hosting this 2021. [0:24:50, 0:25:07]: Holy covet complication in Stockbridge, Georgia, Sunday, July 11th through Sunday, July 18th, 2021. Now therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, investing me as the city's mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander Ilondabarbara. [0:25:07, 0:25:19]: John Blount, Makisha Gann, and Afonso Thomas do hereby congratulate the Congregation of Light of the World Covenant Fellowship International, led and co-founded by Archbishop Ruth W. Smith on this great occasion. [0:25:19, 0:25:39]: As witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in the cause of the seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, to be affixed on the twelfth day of July of this year of our Lord, 2021. Once again I signed this proclamation on law on Winessa holiday. And I will be reading this uh once again uh for Archbishop Bishop Ruth W. Smith. [0:25:39, 0:25:44]: on the evening of fourteenth july at the church location. [0:25:47, 0:25:55]: Our last proclamation for this evening will involve the 26th Amendment and the 50th anniversary of this particular celebration. [0:25:55, 0:26:01]: The twenty-sixth amendment of the United States constitution lowering the universal voting age to 18. [0:26:01, 0:26:18]: Whereas fifty years ago, the twenty sixth amendment of the United States Constitution took effect, lowering the university voting age in America from twenty-one years to eighteen years. Millions of young Americans were extended the right to vote, empowering more young people than ever before to help shape our country. [0:26:19, 0:26:29]: Whereas the right to vote has been secured by generations of leaders over the over our history, from the women's groups to the early 20th century to the civil rights activists of the 1960s. [0:26:30, 0:26:46]: For young people in the movement to lower America's voting age took years of hard work and tough advocacy to make the dream a reality. Yet once proposed in Congress in nineteen seventy one, the twenty-sixth amendment was ratified in the shortest time span of any constitutional amendment in American history. [0:26:47, 0:26:56]: And whereas whereas on July fifth, nineteen seventy one, President Richard Richard Nixon signed an amendment into law allowing millions of new people, new young people to vote [0:26:56, 0:26:58]: in a nineteen seventy two election. [0:26:59, 0:27:03]: And whereas we marked the fiftieth anniversary of the passage of the twenty sixth amendment. [0:27:03, 0:27:10]: and reflect on the its impact to engage young adults in becoming active participants in American democracy. [0:27:10, 0:27:16]: Whereas today young adults across America continue to emphasize their enormous responsibility of citizenship. [0:27:16, 0:27:23]: Countless young people are involved in the political process dedicated to ensuring their voices are heard. [0:27:23, 0:27:32]: Whereas today and for the last fifty years, systematic and legislative barriers continue to make full democratic participation unduly difficult for young voters. [0:27:33, 0:27:44]: Whereas today we must renew the effort to invest in strengthening history and civic learning and ensure that civic learning opportunities are delivered equally throughout the country. [0:27:44, 0:27:51]: Whereas ideas from young Americans are important to us as elected officials and they will help shape the future of our nation. [0:27:51, 0:27:58]: We are committed to supporting and developing young leaders from all beliefs and backgrounds from urban and rural communities alike. [0:27:58, 0:28:09]: Whereas young adults have been drive a driving force for change in the last century, bringing new ideas and high hopes to our national dialogue. Today we remember the efforts of those who fought. [0:28:09, 0:28:27]: for their seat at the table. And we encourage coming, uh encourage coming generations to claim their place in our democracy. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Forbes of Virtual Authority Vested in me as the mayor of the city Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Ilana Barber, John Blount, Lakeese Gantt and Afonso Thomas, [0:28:28, 0:28:36]: You hear hereby proclaim Monday, July fifth, twenty twenty-one, as the twenty-sixth amendment day in the city of Stockbridge in Georgia. [0:28:37, 0:28:45]: I call upon all Georgians to participate in ceremonies and activities that honor young Americans and those who have fought for freedom and justice of our country. [0:28:46, 0:28:59]: In witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 12th day of July in the year of our Lord 2021. And I signed the proclamation along with our Clerk Vanessa Holiday. Thank you. [0:29:01, 0:29:05]: On that note, uh Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [0:29:06, 0:29:13]: Mayor, we do, but I just wanted to bring your attention also that Ms. Don Moore is actually here from Devraye University. [0:29:13, 0:29:16]: Oh, I'm sorry. Um uh Miss Moore. [0:29:17, 0:29:18]: Uh we're [0:29:19, 0:29:21]: Okay, did I lose her? [0:29:23, 0:29:43]: Oh, there you are. Miss Bull, I'm sorry. Go right. Could you unmute yourself, ma'am? Go ahead. Do you have any words for us at all? I'm sorry. Thank you so much for this opportunity. Um appreciate uh the city of Stockbridge, uh the city council um personnel. Just appreciate you recognizing Debry University and its 90-year anniversary. Uh we are [0:29:43, 0:29:51]: Very grateful and will continue to work to support uh the great citizens of Stockbridge. So thank you once again for this honor. [0:29:51, 0:30:11]: You're more than welcome. And and now that uh I I realize what's happening here, excuse me for not recognizing this initially, uh, I'll work it out with you and our clerk on seven appointments so I can bring this proclamation to you in a frame, frame it and bring it to you so you can have it in a frame. Okay. We'll work through that process. All right. Or or we can come to you, whichever is easiest. Thank you so much. [0:30:11, 0:30:19]: We'll work out the details in the next couple of days or so, okay? Okay, thank you so much. More than welcome. Stay as long as you like. It's up to you. Thank you. You're welcome. Take care. [0:30:19, 0:30:20]: I'm there. [0:30:20, 0:30:21]: Yeah, yes, sir. [0:30:21, 0:30:25]: You mind us, Miss Mort set us up tell us a few words about [0:30:25, 0:30:40]: the about Devry University here in Stockbridge as a higher education uh institution. We don't uh uh could she say just a few words about that about the about Devry? Sure, go right in. Miss Morve, you're welc you're welcome to address that question if you like. [0:30:41, 0:31:01]: Thank you so much. So excited to um support uh the community in various ways. DeVry University seeks to meet students exactly where they are. So whether they are thinking about starting their education, continuing their education, sharpening their saw, and continuing with a master's degree, we've got certificates. [0:31:01, 0:31:16]: associate degree, bachelor degree, master's degrees, master's certificate programs, and continue to also participate in our community service activities as well. So I'm looking forward to continuing to build partnerships. [0:31:16, 0:31:25]: With organizations that are seeking to grow and retain their key talent. We've got partnerships that we offer through our corporate education partnerships. [0:31:26, 0:31:33]: in addition to the individual learning platforms that we offer through our um undergraduate and graduate degree programs as well. [0:31:34, 0:31:52]: Okay, thank you for that. Appreciate that. Welcome. Thank you. Once again, you're more than welcome to stay as long as you like. It's clearly up to you. Okay. Thank you so much for the opportunity. You're more than welcome anytime. Okay, Band of Clerk. I'm sorry. Public comments, do we have any at all? We do. We have one public comment, Mayor. Okay, go ahead, please. This is coming from Sonny Rendezzo. [0:31:52, 0:31:56]: On Bryant Street here in Stockbridge, Georgia. Okay. [0:31:57, 0:31:59]: Please address the amphitheater lighting. [0:32:00, 0:32:08]: The super bright lights blaze all night, every night, and don't turn off until two hours after daybreak. [0:32:08, 0:32:13]: The taxpayers are having to pay five thousand one hundred and twenty-nine dollars per month. [0:32:13, 0:32:16]: For thirty plus floodlights in our backyards. [0:32:17, 0:32:18]: In my opinion. [0:32:18, 0:32:20]: That is a ridiculous amount of money. [0:32:20, 0:32:24]: Especially when the eviction moratorium is about to end. [0:32:25, 0:32:28]: One or more of the lights flashed on and off all weekend. [0:32:29, 0:32:34]: Can y'all please try to understand how annoying that is? [0:32:34, 0:32:37]: It's like Hartsville airport in our neighborhood. [0:32:37, 0:32:40]: Please address this waste of taxpayer funds. [0:32:40, 0:32:44]: It's fiscally and environmentally irresponsible. [0:32:44, 0:32:50]: We res we expect better from our leaders. Please address thank you. [0:32:50, 0:33:10]: Yeah, no further comments, Mayor. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. Mr. Knighton, you heard that of having well life for you to follow up on that particular uh issue if you can, sir. Really appreciate it. Thank you very much. Okay, on that note, uh old business council consideration approved T S PLOSS IGA intergovernmental agreement between the city of Stockbridge, Henry County, and cities of Hampton, local scroll. [0:33:10, 0:33:16]: And Madonna. So I think I'm looking to you near Mr. Knighton for this presentation. [0:33:17, 0:33:31]: Yeah, I may have the attorneys also come into this. Okay. As you all know, the uh at uh the previous two meetings, in fact, um we discussed uh the transportation splost and uh the council ultimately last week. [0:33:31, 0:33:37]: approved a list of projects uh right at about thirty and a half thirty point five million dollars [0:33:37, 0:33:39]: Афори Ситів Сток. [0:33:39, 0:33:48]: Uh, there's a larger list of projects, uh, which also include uh contribution from the city of Stockbridge on some joint projects with Henry County, most notably. [0:33:49, 0:33:52]: Rock horri road, rock horry extension, and then a resurfacing project. [0:33:53, 0:34:00]: Uh the intergovernmental agreement has been approved by Henry County and uh provided to uh the cities. [0:34:00, 0:34:01]: Ah, for their approval. [0:34:02, 0:34:08]: As most intergovernmental agreements go, uh similar to Splost, there is distribution, there's also [0:34:08, 0:34:10]: uh how these funds would be allocated. [0:34:11, 0:34:14]: And all of that has been uh reviewed by [0:34:15, 0:34:18]: Uh, the attorneys uh we believe that everything is in order. [0:34:19, 0:34:23]: And um i is of all of the cities, of course, prove. [0:34:24, 0:34:26]: uh the Intergovernment Agreement, it'll go for [0:34:26, 0:34:30]: And then the county will make the actual call for the referendum vote. [0:34:30, 0:34:32]: on november the second. [0:34:32, 0:34:33]: So [0:34:33, 0:34:37]: This information is being provided. It's a part of the intergovernmental agreement. [0:34:37, 0:34:40]: And um we believe that everything is in order and [0:34:41, 0:34:42]: Can recommend approval. [0:34:43, 0:34:45]: uh for this I GA obviously [0:34:45, 0:34:48]: Um the total amount of the uh of the [0:34:48, 0:34:54]: Transportation splost as estimated is right at two hundred and forty-five to two hundred and fifty million dollars. [0:34:55, 0:34:56]: And so [0:34:56, 0:35:00]: If the voters ultimately do approve this, it would be a significant [0:35:00, 0:35:05]: uh amount of funds that can be utilized for transportation projects, improvements. [0:35:05, 0:35:07]: uh trail, sidewalks, etcetera. [0:35:08, 0:35:10]: And um it will be a significant [0:35:11, 0:35:12]: Confusion. [0:35:12, 0:35:15]: of funds that can help with our transportation network. [0:35:15, 0:35:18]: So with that, Mayor, we do recommend uh approval. [0:35:18, 0:35:20]: And uh would uh [0:35:20, 0:35:21]: Would seek any. [0:35:22, 0:35:24]: Any questions from council or comments from council? [0:35:25, 0:35:28]: I would uh also mention uh to our attorneys here, see Jeremy. [0:35:28, 0:35:32]: There are any comments from the attorneys related to the intergovernmental agreement as well. [0:35:33, 0:35:37]: Well let's start with the attorneys if they have anything first, uh, before we go to the council. [0:35:38, 0:35:40]: Any anything attorneys that you need to add? [0:35:40, 0:35:49]: At all. Thank you, Mayor and and uh Randy. Yeah, the the draft IGA has been uh circulating among the county and and relevant city attorneys. [0:35:50, 0:35:53]: pretty straightforward. Uh just lays out that you know the the [0:35:54, 0:36:01]: Municipalities believe everything is done correctly. This is all premised on the referendum occurring and then getting a majority vote. [0:36:01, 0:36:04]: uh the referendum it's a one percent tax [0:36:05, 0:36:09]: At that point, assuming it passes, then uh as stated in the agreement. [0:36:10, 0:36:13]: The city would of Stockbridge would get twelve point seven five percent. [0:36:14, 0:36:22]: And that would be allocated as the council uh approved at the special call meeting this past week on on the project list put forward. [0:36:24, 0:36:27]: Okay, thank you. Mr Washington, do you have anything you want to add, sir, at this point? [0:36:30, 0:36:31]: That was pretty much a good summation. [0:36:31, 0:36:33]: Okay, good. Thank you. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [0:36:34, 0:36:54]: Uh thank you so much. Um I appreciate that uh those uh that explanation, uh Mr. Knighton. I just uh want you to do the last time we had this presentation, I got some comments from the folks who were watching who just this still did not understand what T Sploss was. [0:36:54, 0:37:14]: If you would just kind of go into a little bit more detail for the layperson on what T Splos is and the difference between T Splos uh and the regular SPLOS, as for example, that we have to spend uh these monies uh on uh transportation versus the general splots and those uh so [0:37:14, 0:37:15]: Sorts of things. [0:37:16, 0:37:20]: All right. I'll pass it on to Mr. Knighton for sir for that explanation, please. [0:37:22, 0:37:33]: Right, that is correct. T S Post is transportation special purpose local option sales tax in its current form was approved uh a couple of years ago, well, several years ago now. [0:37:33, 0:37:44]: From the uh General Assembly and the intent was to provide a funding mechanism specific for transportation projects for counties to be able to [0:37:44, 0:38:04]: I have a referendum that would speak directly to transportation projects, including acquisition, construction, installation of roadways, trails, sidewalks, road improvements, et cetera. And so this is different from what is the traditional SPLOST. The traditional SPLOST, of course, you can tell. [0:38:04, 0:38:17]: take and you can use funds for parks, for civic buildings, for sewer and water infrastructure. This is more specific to transportation and transportation related items. [0:38:18, 0:38:25]: And so obviously rec the recognition of uh the great need for transportation improvements throughout the state of Georgia. [0:38:25, 0:38:33]: Quite frankly, throughout the nation, this opportunity was provided by the General Assembly for voters to be able to vote to determine if an additional penny. [0:38:33, 0:38:41]: Uh, that's raised from goods and services that are purchased within the county can be devoted specifically to transportation projects. [0:38:41, 0:38:52]: And so uh this uh intergovernmental agreement uh binds the county and the cities together if everyone agrees, uh, that they'll move forward with the uh T Splash vote on November the second. [0:38:53, 0:38:57]: And it will be left up to the voters to determine if it is something that will be approved. [0:38:59, 0:39:11]: Well a follow-up. Folks, I want everybody to understand uh Stockbridge has their own list. Our list is just over thirty million dollars that this one one cent sales tax [0:39:11, 0:39:12]: We'll promote. [0:39:12, 0:39:14]: Please understand that [0:39:14, 0:39:17]: Uh according to county manager Sherry. [0:39:17, 0:39:21]: Matthews that we have a one billion dollar deficit in terms of [0:39:21, 0:39:25]: The amount of monies that it would take in order to solve our problem. [0:39:25, 0:39:30]: The regular budget year to year is fine. Let me make the d differentiation. [0:39:30, 0:39:34]: We need over a billion dollars to fix our traffic issues. [0:39:35, 0:39:36]: here in Henry County. [0:39:37, 0:39:38]: The state of Georgia. [0:39:38, 0:39:43]: does does not like for local governments to come to them empty handed. [0:39:43, 0:39:46]: They want you to have some skin in the game when you come. [0:39:47, 0:39:50]: And we will be able to do some of the projects that we desperately need. [0:39:51, 0:39:53]: And thank God to this county council united. [0:39:53, 0:39:56]: Да ви вообще фору мільйон долар. [0:39:56, 0:39:58]: Uh to the Rock Quarry Road Widening. [0:39:59, 0:40:02]: And two million dollars to the potential rock quarry road. [0:40:02, 0:40:03]: Extension. Henry County. [0:40:04, 0:40:06]: approve this agreement, they will be adding [0:40:06, 0:40:09]: twenty seven million. So please note. [0:40:09, 0:40:26]: When you see the dollar amounts for the city of Stockbridge, this list is just for us. But Henry County has several projects will total up to two hundred and forty five million. And if you would, Mr. Knight, if you would just go over the list uh for the for those who may not have tuned in the last time. [0:40:26, 0:40:28]: Just re read the list. [0:40:30, 0:40:31]: A project. [0:40:34, 0:40:35]: Immediately miss nine. [0:40:35, 0:40:38]: I'm sure give me just a moment here and I will pull that up. [0:40:44, 0:40:50]: Folks need to understand what they're getting and that this is awesome. The the thing the amount of things that we will be able to do. [0:40:51, 0:40:52]: Uh for the community. [0:40:52, 0:41:03]: And I hear it every single day. Traffic, traffic, traffic. We're trying to impact that. And we hear you a loud and clear here. And as far as sidewalks and connectivity. [0:41:04, 0:41:06]: Uh, we're trying to build an Atlanta belt line type trail. [0:41:06, 0:41:08]: throughout uh the entire city. [0:41:09, 0:41:17]: And uh if you are so fortunate to have this pass, we'll be able to do that and uh provide pedestrian safety for you. [0:41:23, 0:41:23]: Mm. [0:41:24, 0:41:25]: How's it coming, Mr. Knighton? [0:41:26, 0:41:29]: All right, give me just one second here. I will pull that up. [0:41:33, 0:41:34]: All right. [0:41:35, 0:41:40]: Hopefully uh everyone can oops. Let's go back. [0:41:41, 0:41:44]: Hopefully everyone can see this list. [0:41:46, 0:41:48]: Yeah, we can see it that there's uh okay. [0:41:49, 0:41:49]: Okay. [0:41:55, 0:41:58]: All right, you'll see the list here. If everyone can see that. [0:41:58, 0:42:10]: Again, the Wilson Nolan Street, Child Street, Wilson Street, Walker Street area,$2.5 million. There's also going to be AR um ARP fund support for that total project. [0:42:10, 0:42:14]: Davison Parkways resurfacing in sidewalks at 1.5. [0:42:14, 0:42:20]: Old Atlanta Road, resurfacing sidewalks at one point five million, Tie Street sidewalks at two point two. [0:42:20, 0:42:27]: million uh Davis Road Curb and Gutter 2.5 that will also be supported by ARP funds. [0:42:27, 0:42:31]: Reeves Creek Trail Extension, 2.8 million. Brush Creek, 2.4 million. [0:42:32, 0:42:35]: ML Key MLK Senior Heritage Trail. [0:42:35, 0:42:39]: Um a couple of different connections there at one at four hundred and twenty five. [0:42:39, 0:42:43]: thousand, three hundred and fifty five thousand and six hundred and twenty five thousand. [0:42:43, 0:42:45]: As well as a trailhead location. [0:42:45, 0:42:50]: five hundred thousand and then country club drive, traffic and safety improvements at a million. [0:42:51, 0:42:55]: Burke Street sidewalks, Love Street sidewalks at 500,000 each. [0:42:56, 0:43:00]: Walt Stevens Road Trail at three million dollars, Rock Croix Road Widening at$4 million. [0:43:01, 0:43:15]: Rock Quarry Road Extension at 2 million, and then Hudson Bridge Road Eagles Landing Parkway resurfacing at just over 489,000, as well as the downtown pedestrian bridge at 800,000, campground road sidewalks at 500,000. [0:43:15, 0:43:17]: And then Peach Drive sidewalks at three hundred thousand. [0:43:18, 0:43:20]: Totaling just over thirty million dollars. [0:43:21, 0:43:29]: Thank you. Appreciate it, sir. Thank you. Can and Council, any other council members any comments before we take this vote? Anyone else? [0:43:32, 0:43:36]: All right. Don't see anybody else on so I need a motion to accept this uh [0:43:36, 0:43:39]: Proposal. So move. Okay. Mayor Pro Tem's a second. [0:43:40, 0:43:49]: I second. Well, Miss Barber threw her hand up there. So all right. A good deal. Any further discussion? If not all in favor, please indicate. [0:43:50, 0:44:10]: Okay, unanimous decision. I will tell you uh council and for the public listening in, tomorrow afternoon I'll sign my portion of that IGA and have it picked up by it'll be picked up by Hemley County and then move on to the rest of the cities uh for those mayors who sign off on them as well. So we'll take care of that tomorrow afternoon. All right. On that note, uh [0:44:10, 0:44:27]: Uh new business council consideration to approve task order number 21 with TSW Incorporated City of Stockbridge Parks Master Plan in the amount of$124,060. And the funding source is SPLOSS and presented by Mr. [0:44:28, 0:44:31]: Aaron and I believe Mr. Aaron will have uh [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: Heather Hubble. [0:44:32, 0:44:34]: working with him on this presentation. [0:44:35, 0:44:36]: Away, please. [0:44:36, 0:44:56]: Yes, Ms. Mayor, thank you. The title of this task order is kind of a misnomer in that we initially were looking at doing some refreshment and renovation to our current park system. As everyone knows, they're beginning to show their age. We met with uh Heather Hubble with TSW to look at some different ideas for refreshing. [0:44:56, 0:45:12]: question the restrooms at Clark Park, Memorial and Gardner, along with the pavilions, the layout for them, and also looking at increasing parking at Memorial Park. And so I'll let Ms. Hubble speak to that as if anyone has any questions from her. [0:45:13, 0:45:13]: All right. [0:45:14, 0:45:15]: All right. How you doing, Heather? [0:45:16, 0:45:17]: Hi, good evening. [0:45:17, 0:45:18]: Good evening in you as well. [0:45:19, 0:45:30]: So I also have Brian Bays on the phone or on Zoom with me tonight. Um he is our landscape architect. I I think you know he assisted on the amphitheater as well. [0:45:31, 0:45:33]: Брайан і бот. [0:45:33, 0:45:36]: Spent about two hours of walking the parks. [0:45:36, 0:45:39]: All three parks uh with uh Mister Aaron. [0:45:40, 0:45:40]: Um [0:45:40, 0:45:42]: And discovered that there were uh [0:45:43, 0:45:50]: Quite a few functional issues. The parks are impeccably well maintained. Your main ta your maintenance crew does a wonderful job. [0:45:51, 0:45:51]: Um [0:45:52, 0:45:54]: But uh they are aged. [0:45:54, 0:45:57]: Uh there functional issues, uh [0:45:57, 0:46:01]: with how the parks want to be used uh but can't be used in their current state. [0:46:02, 0:46:03]: uh as well as [0:46:04, 0:46:08]: uh parking and kind of functional issues with the restrooms being not up to code. [0:46:09, 0:46:13]: Um so uh in walking through all three parks. [0:46:13, 0:46:13]: Uh [0:46:14, 0:46:18]: there's a lot that the city can get out of these parks, more than they are um currently. [0:46:19, 0:46:20]: Um so it [0:46:20, 0:46:22]: uh led us to a discussion about [0:46:23, 0:46:26]: Maybe we need to look at these parks holistically. [0:46:27, 0:46:29]: Uh, and there's a couple of ways we can do that. [0:46:29, 0:46:30]: One is [0:46:30, 0:46:34]: Um, look at the existing infrastructure and improve it. [0:46:34, 0:46:38]: Um and then one is deciding if we should not um [0:46:38, 0:46:43]: maybe discard some of the existing infrastructure and build some new. [0:46:43, 0:46:44]: uh infrastructure. [0:46:44, 0:46:54]: for instance, pavilions that work uh in a better function for the way they need to. Uh the mass pavilions I understand oftentimes have issues with multiple groups using them. [0:46:55, 0:46:56]: Uh, and how that works. So [0:46:57, 0:46:59]: What we are proposing to do is [0:47:00, 0:47:04]: Uh one get surveys for all three parks so we understand uh [0:47:04, 0:47:06]: the uh physical infrastructure there. [0:47:07, 0:47:08]: Uh how the parks are sloping. [0:47:09, 0:47:09]: Um [0:47:10, 0:47:12]: And h really have a base to work with. So [0:47:12, 0:47:15]: That's almost half of the proposal in front of you. [0:47:16, 0:47:18]: Um the other half is design work. [0:47:18, 0:47:20]: Uh we want to give you um [0:47:21, 0:47:26]: uh sets of bubble diagrams for each that show you how you can both use the infrastructure. [0:47:26, 0:47:30]: And then maybe discard some of the current infrastructure and improve them. [0:47:30, 0:47:35]: Um, those will give you options as well as cost for those improvements. [0:47:35, 0:47:39]: So that the uh city of Stockbridge can really determine which way is best to go. [0:47:40, 0:47:41]: Once that's decided. [0:47:41, 0:47:44]: Uh, then we'll move on to a more concrete. [0:47:45, 0:47:46]: uh scheme to move forward with. [0:47:47, 0:47:50]: Um, Brian, do you have additional thoughts you'd like to add? [0:47:53, 0:47:56]: I think that covers it. Did you mention the survey part of this? [0:47:57, 0:47:57]: Um [0:47:58, 0:48:12]: Correct. Uh the existing conditions surveying um is the consultant that um gas gaskins is doing that for us and it is about half of the proposal. Uh it it needs to be done to make sure that we can do the work we need to for you. [0:48:13, 0:48:23]: And that survey is is with residents. Is that what you're referring to? Or is it or is this with uh the council, the staff, uh primary residents, I'm assuming, is that correct? [0:48:23, 0:48:28]: So the surveys are physical surveys. It'll give us topo, existing trees. [0:48:28, 0:48:30]: where the structures are located. [0:48:30, 0:48:31]: Um [0:48:31, 0:48:40]: uh utilities so we can work within within the structure that's already there, uh, but also understand how we can manipulate it in ways that make sense. [0:48:40, 0:48:44]: Okay. So these are physical land surveys. Okay. Thank you. [0:48:44, 0:48:45]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:48:46, 0:48:59]: Thank you, sir. Um Mrs. Hubble, it it is uh good to see you again. Uh Mr. Baze uh also. Um let me say that uh I wanna thank uh Mr. Aaron for [0:48:59, 0:49:02]: Uh joining me today. We actually walked [0:49:02, 0:49:05]: А Мморю пак [0:49:06, 0:49:10]: А токрес і скоп обіз пропозол. [0:49:10, 0:49:12]: And I looked at what was [0:49:13, 0:49:17]: Uh you know, the scope of work for all of the park, but for memorial park. [0:49:18, 0:49:22]: And um I asked some questions of Mr. Aaron. [0:49:22, 0:49:23]: Um [0:49:24, 0:49:31]: The recommendation that I will eventually make, and I and I guess I may make a motion to do that. [0:49:31, 0:49:33]: I was concerned about um [0:49:34, 0:49:36]: connectivity [0:49:36, 0:49:37]: So [0:49:38, 0:49:40]: Uh the ML King [0:49:40, 0:49:43]: Uh, here for the trail, and as I talk about this, Mr. Nighting. [0:49:43, 0:49:45]: I may need you to um [0:49:46, 0:49:47]: Pool back. [0:49:48, 0:49:49]: Um [0:49:49, 0:49:51]: The the T splash listing. [0:49:51, 0:49:55]: Where you talked about the work that's going to be done uh on MLK. [0:49:56, 0:49:59]: Um, you know, at the um the bulkhead. [0:49:59, 0:50:03]: So'cause I think all of this is gonna tie in and I'm glad that we [0:50:03, 0:50:07]: We sort of discuss the T splash first because in my mind [0:50:07, 0:50:10]: Uh it does sort of tie in as far as [0:50:10, 0:50:14]: Um, you know, thinking forward, you know, moving it forward. [0:50:14, 0:50:17]: So um connectivity [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: Uh with Memorial Park. [0:50:19, 0:50:21]: The ML King Harris's trail. [0:50:22, 0:50:24]: And the Reese Creek Trail. [0:50:25, 0:50:26]: Uh presently [0:50:27, 0:50:28]: It is all fragmented. [0:50:29, 0:50:31]: And and I think um [0:50:31, 0:50:35]: With this scope of work and this proposal. [0:50:35, 0:50:39]: Uh I'm recommending um to be included in this proposal. [0:50:39, 0:50:43]: Some kind of uh connectivity where all of these entities [0:50:43, 0:50:45]: a sort of um join in. [0:50:46, 0:50:47]: Uh, you started mentioned parking. [0:50:48, 0:50:50]: Um, as all of the council members know. [0:50:51, 0:50:58]: Uh you know, there's a lacko parking there at uh memorial and hopefully um the steady um [0:50:58, 0:51:04]: Mrs. Hubble will sort of look into that and I believe it will. I know uh you mentioned that. [0:51:04, 0:51:07]: Uh and lastly, um [0:51:07, 0:51:09]: Асесибиліті [0:51:09, 0:51:11]: Um there is [0:51:12, 0:51:15]: You have to drive through the neighborhood to get to the park. [0:51:16, 0:51:20]: Um a lot of folks citizens really don't know the park is there. [0:51:20, 0:51:24]: Uh, I live in the neighborhood and I see folks all the time. [0:51:24, 0:51:31]: coming through the neighborhood trying to find it. They asked, well, how do you get to Memorial Park? Where is Memorial Park? [0:51:31, 0:51:34]: And we know with the widening of [0:51:34, 0:51:47]: Rock Quarry Road and that being sort of the the the gateway if you will uh to downtown from that particular area from People's Landed, uh that needs to be [0:51:47, 0:51:51]: some accessibility to get to the park, say from [0:51:52, 0:51:55]: Um ML King or Rockware. [0:51:55, 0:51:56]: So [0:51:57, 0:52:00]: Uh my recommendation is [0:52:00, 0:52:04]: To include in this proposal and in the scope of this work. [0:52:05, 0:52:08]: uh to look at these three things. Connectivity. [0:52:08, 0:52:10]: uh parking and [0:52:10, 0:52:11]: A new [0:52:12, 0:52:26]: uh accessibility to to to get to the park. And I'm willing to uh to put this into a motion, but I'll just sort of just stop and open this up for discussion or let you and Mr. Bayes uh sort of respond to those things. [0:52:29, 0:52:30]: Well, um [0:52:30, 0:52:36]: Those are all those are all great comments. And I think I think if I if I um [0:52:36, 0:52:40]: break those down into groups. There are two two of those that are kind of external to the parks. [0:52:41, 0:52:46]: uh the the park connectivity uh via trails and the access to the park. [0:52:46, 0:52:52]: Those aren't really uh in this scope of work, although I think they'd be extremely valuable to do. [0:52:52, 0:53:00]: Uh at the same time that we do this work. The parking uh question is part of this current proposal. [0:53:00, 0:53:04]: And we would we are, I think, at all the parks, um [0:53:04, 0:53:10]: Uh definitely looking at the parking situation and I think in all cases it needs to expand. [0:53:10, 0:53:15]: Um or at least uh be kind of clarified. I know at least two of the parks. [0:53:15, 0:53:20]: uh are desperately in need of kind of more parking. So that would be part of this. But [0:53:20, 0:53:23]: I definitely agree, uh uh [0:53:23, 0:53:25]: Connectivity between the parks is uh [0:53:26, 0:53:31]: Is tough right now and especially uh given how close the po parts are to each other. [0:53:32, 0:53:37]: I just disconnected by a bunch of different things. So I think those are those are good points for sure. [0:53:38, 0:53:41]: Uh Councilman Blood, before you before you weigh in. [0:53:41, 0:53:47]: Um let me do a follow up and and Mr. Nighting, the reason I sort of suggested you go back. [0:53:48, 0:53:50]: Um see considering [0:53:50, 0:53:53]: What we're trying to do uh with the teeth blosh. [0:53:54, 0:53:56]: Uh and with Emil King. [0:53:56, 0:53:57]: So [0:53:57, 0:53:59]: Mr. Knighting, what is your [0:54:00, 0:54:04]: Your concept looking at what we're trying to do with the T S bars. [0:54:04, 0:54:07]: What what what is what comes to your mind [0:54:07, 0:54:11]: As far as um at least connectivity. [0:54:11, 0:54:14]: And really uh accessibility as well. [0:54:14, 0:54:17]: And and and anything that we do on MLK in heritage trail. [0:54:18, 0:54:19]: А ви консир. [0:54:20, 0:54:21]: Uh Reese Creek. [0:54:22, 0:54:23]: And memorial. [0:54:23, 0:54:26]: Um and and and and again [0:54:26, 0:54:28]: You know, we're trying to enhance. [0:54:29, 0:54:33]: uh M. M. King and when you get into the other subject of tourism. [0:54:33, 0:54:38]: Um and I don't really want to get into what people are actually seeing. [0:54:38, 0:54:49]: um when they drive the Heritage Trail, because we're always putting the name ML King Heritage Trail out there. And so folks are actually riding the trail. [0:54:50, 0:54:52]: And um and so [0:54:52, 0:54:56]: We need to give them something to be able to see. [0:54:56, 0:55:05]: Uh, as opposed to what they see right now. So, Mr. Night, so before Councilman Blount weigh in, um, how do you see [0:55:06, 0:55:09]: uh the tees blush and the [0:55:10, 0:55:12]: Um this proposal. [0:55:12, 0:55:15]: Uh how how do you see these things sort of? [0:55:15, 0:55:16]: Going hand in hand. [0:55:17, 0:55:22]: Yes, uh councilman. Um and I did pull up the the list again. [0:55:22, 0:55:26]: Um and as you can see on the list, there are dip they're really [0:55:26, 0:55:27]: Really four different [0:55:28, 0:55:31]: Items there specific to MLK Senior Heritage Trail. [0:55:31, 0:55:37]: and the different linkages in trailhead that are coming together to provide some level of connectivity. [0:55:37, 0:55:41]: In addition to the Reeves Creek Trail extension, which all ties in together. [0:55:41, 0:55:46]: But this exercise that TSW is or is being proposed for TSW. [0:55:47, 0:55:55]: Is to to to upgrade and improve uh in this case we're talking memorial park, memorial park, but then also the T Splots list. [0:55:55, 0:56:00]: Із тent он провинди коннективі. [0:56:00, 0:56:12]: uh via um trails um and sidewalks even in the um tie street area. We look at the sidewalk projects that are there and then the other projects, Wilson Street um [0:56:12, 0:56:17]: And all of those projects as well, providing uh sidewalks on those projects as well as [0:56:18, 0:56:22]: The four projects that I mentioned specific to MLK H Senior Heritage Trail, which were [0:56:22, 0:56:25]: Extracted specifically from [0:56:25, 0:56:29]: The bicycle pedestrian trail master plan that was done a few years ago. [0:56:29, 0:56:32]: uh twenty seventeen, I believe, uh by the city. [0:56:32, 0:56:38]: And so I see all of these things uh layering on top of each other to provide connectivity and then provide. [0:56:39, 0:56:43]: The civic space, the the park, memorial park, making some improvements at the park. [0:56:43, 0:56:55]: to provide a better experience uh for citizens uh yeah you know in the future because you know parks is you know one of the major things that was discussed in the comprehensive plan. [0:56:55, 0:57:07]: Of continuing to provide those civic spaces. And so those trail linkages here, as well as the other um improvements that are being proposed, as well as the [0:57:07, 0:57:16]: Other sidewalk proposals in the T S Plus list, I think, tie all together to provide connectivity in and around the Memorial Park area. [0:57:17, 0:57:21]: So with that being said, um, is there a need for [0:57:22, 0:57:25]: Um a motion to add [0:57:26, 0:57:29]: to the uh scope of work that uh TSW is doing. [0:57:33, 0:57:53]: Or is that or is that in motion? Well let me let me let me let me say this for a second. You know, on that splots list of those connectivities, those certain pieces of tw point twenty-five miles, seven point seventy-five a mile, won't those automatic if you do those, won't those automatically connect and and do what you're asking that uh to do, right? [0:57:53, 0:57:58]: Now Thomas and Mr. Thomas? Well, the accessibility. [0:57:58, 0:57:59]: To the park. [0:58:00, 0:58:03]: Uh whether it's from Rockware or ML King. [0:58:03, 0:58:10]: Uh no now Mr. Aaron and I sort of talked about some possibilities when we looked [0:58:11, 0:58:21]: to the uh properties that the city owns uh on ML King. But see, this is the reason why I'm asking, um is there a motion needed to [0:58:21, 0:58:22]: Um [0:58:23, 0:58:25]: To add to the scope of work because [0:58:25, 0:58:32]: I I think a study or some kind of engineering needs to be done to actually to see where. [0:58:32, 0:58:36]: Um you could make a entryway. [0:58:37, 0:58:47]: into the park from ML King or from uh Rockware Road. So if if we don't include that in, then I don't see [0:58:48, 0:58:51]: And I don't know, Ms. Help, you you can you can answer this, Mr. Name, but [0:58:52, 0:58:55]: The way I read the the scope. [0:58:55, 0:58:57]: Of work in the proposal. [0:58:57, 0:59:01]: I did not see that as a part of the scope of work. [0:59:01, 0:59:05]: Uh if I'm wrong would would someone please uh tell me that. [0:59:06, 0:59:07]: I think. [0:59:08, 0:59:09]: Heather, go ahead, Heather. [0:59:10, 0:59:22]: Um well, I think what I'm understanding is that uh there may need to be a new road piece uh to get better direct connection instead of going through the neighborhood roads. Is that is that what I'm hearing? [0:59:22, 0:59:25]: That is that is correct. That needs to be an assessed. [0:59:26, 0:59:28]: The way that you can assess the park. [0:59:28, 0:59:33]: Um without actually coming to the neighborhood because it is a [0:59:33, 0:59:35]: Wind and turn and [0:59:36, 0:59:41]: kind of situation action to get and you can get to it from MLP. [0:59:41, 0:59:44]: Uh but you still have to turn [0:59:45, 0:59:49]: Uh second street, then you have to turn on Jenny's way. [0:59:49, 0:59:51]: Uh but that is not the [0:59:52, 0:59:54]: In my mind, that is not the best. [0:59:55, 0:59:57]: uh access to the park. [0:59:58, 1:00:12]: Uh and I I don't think so. And I'm, you know, Councilman Blount, um, he he's familiar with this, so he may want to weigh into that point. Um, but uh but the question still stands though, Mr. Night, do we need to broaden? [1:00:12, 1:00:15]: The scope of work for [1:00:15, 1:00:18]: T SW to look at this because as I see [1:00:18, 1:00:20]: uh the proposal the way it is now. [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: I don't see [1:00:23, 1:00:24]: That [1:00:24, 1:00:27]: Um being a part of the scope. [1:00:27, 1:00:31]: Right. I think the primary scope was focused on the park itself. [1:00:32, 1:00:38]: And so in conjunction with the T-SPLOST list and either any other improvements that are being made in the area, I think what [1:00:38, 1:00:39]: I understand you correctly. [1:00:40, 1:00:48]: The scope would be expanded for TSW to assess and analyze the current and future projects that we have. [1:00:48, 1:00:50]: In terms of trail connectivity. [1:00:50, 1:01:02]: with the park and determine essentially if there are any gaps there or if there are any new segments that need to be added at some point to complete a comprehensive trail connectivity. [1:01:02, 1:01:06]: From MLK Senior Heritage Trail and the surrounding area to the park. [1:01:08, 1:01:15]: Well, I let me put it this way, Mr. Nine. That that's not a fancy way of saying it. I uh for me, it's just real simple. [1:01:15, 1:01:17]: Um, how do you get to the park? [1:01:18, 1:01:20]: From Rockware. [1:01:20, 1:01:23]: How do you get to the park from MLK? [1:01:23, 1:01:25]: And so if if that is not [1:01:26, 1:01:29]: A part of the scope if it's not planned. [1:01:30, 1:01:35]: uh you know to to actually to to do just that, then I'm saying that it needed to be added. [1:01:36, 1:01:39]: Uhhuh. What I'm hearing, you're saying that at at this point. [1:01:40, 1:01:40]: It's about [1:01:41, 1:01:42]: The park separately. [1:01:43, 1:01:45]: It's about ML King separately. [1:01:46, 1:02:01]: It's about Reed's Creek Trail separately. But there's not the connectivity or that's not the access to uh to get into the park. But Mayor I'm I'm gonna yield to Councilman Blount, but I I I do uh reserve to to come back because I'm still not really here and [1:02:02, 1:02:03]: Uh the answer to the question. [1:02:03, 1:02:05]: Can I ask just one more question? [1:02:05, 1:02:11]: Um is this vehicular? You're looking for a vehicular access point, not just a trail access point. [1:02:12, 1:02:13]: Correct, correct. [1:02:14, 1:02:23]: Um, you know, I do think it's a it's a scope extension. We probably need a little bit more surveying limit on that side of the park uh than what we had planned to do. [1:02:24, 1:02:26]: Um, but I think that we can absolutely explore. [1:02:27, 1:02:28]: uh that connection. [1:02:28, 1:02:31]: It is a very awkward arrival. Uh [1:02:31, 1:02:37]: to get there. So I could see why that would be advantageous. Uh Brian, do you have thoughts on that? [1:02:38, 1:02:39]: Yeah, it may be uh [1:02:41, 1:02:44]: You know, the easiest thing maybe to do is just [1:02:44, 1:02:47]: Is with some of our initial planning. [1:02:47, 1:02:54]: Um we may not even need to go get surveying at this point, but just kind of assess what the opportunities for connectivity are. [1:02:54, 1:02:58]: With a road, I mean I know there's some low areas there, there's some water and some other [1:02:59, 1:03:01]: kind of obstacles, but we can probably [1:03:02, 1:03:08]: without making a huge investment in a survey at this point, uh you will eventually have to decide to do the connection. [1:03:09, 1:03:14]: Uh we could probably assess that. I mean uh the last thing we want to do for Memorial Park is [1:03:15, 1:03:18]: Uh, you know, plan a bunch of parking changes if [1:03:18, 1:03:23]: There's a potential for the drive entrance to completely move. Um [1:03:23, 1:03:26]: Because then we'd have to walk back a little bit. So [1:03:26, 1:03:27]: I mean, yeah. [1:03:27, 1:03:33]: For for us, if that's a real possibility, then I would definitely make sure that that's part of [1:03:33, 1:03:34]: What we look at. [1:03:35, 1:03:36]: That's that's the future. [1:03:36, 1:03:37]: Yeah. [1:03:38, 1:03:41]: Mayor, I'm gonna use it to Councilman Blount. Okay, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:03:42, 1:03:44]: Yeah, Mayor, thank you, sir. Um [1:03:45, 1:03:48]: I think three things when it comes to Memorial Park is happening here. [1:03:49, 1:03:52]: Is that what we're talking about right now? We talked about over two years ago. [1:03:54, 1:03:59]: Uh when we talked about connectivity, road connectivity into the park. What we talk about right now, we talked about [1:04:00, 1:04:04]: Over two years ago. Uh Mr. Knighton, you know that we went out there, we looked at uh [1:04:05, 1:04:22]: uh look at the park and we had someone told show us the design that could happen that could fix immediate need. See any project, the best thing you can do, what can you do to fix immediate need and what can you do to put yourself in a position when you expand to fix the uh uh other needs that are available, you know, because [1:04:23, 1:04:31]: Uh, I don't know if you are familiar with the Bank of America right there off of North Henry Drive. To go up in that Bank of America, one of the branches I've used, was crazy. [1:04:32, 1:04:39]: I mean it was crazy going there, but a simple moving around parking spaces and design in there. [1:04:39, 1:04:49]: made it a more comfortable and usable parking lot to use. And one of the things that was told to us, Mr. Knighton, which you was there, is what could be done. [1:04:49, 1:04:54]: to increase uh parking spaces by over thirty parking spaces. I think it was thirty-seven. [1:04:55, 1:04:58]: I think the biggest problem we're having that we're continuing and [1:04:59, 1:05:06]: Making emotion could is a good thing, and timelines are a good thing because I find us when we're talking about projects. [1:05:06, 1:05:13]: We w we need we need staff following through with those projects and bringing recommendations and telling us what the cost is gonna be. [1:05:13, 1:05:26]: And I think over two years, these these when we're talking about Memorial Park, there's nothing moved on Memorial Park. There's nothing moved for us the street store, anything with Memorial Park. And we've been talking about this over two years. [1:05:27, 1:05:28]: So [1:05:28, 1:05:32]: When we bring these things up, these are the desires of the council. [1:05:32, 1:05:51]: And so I would like to see these things follow through, unless we're just blowing in the wind as the fade away without any follow-up and recommendations and telling us costs where we can start moving on some of these projects that could be low-hanging fruit, like the parking lot, 37 more parking spaces, even if you expand and do whatever to the park. [1:05:51, 1:05:53]: You still clear land. [1:05:54, 1:06:03]: You're clearing trees on one uh uh uh we talked about clearing those trees on the frontish part that those those the pine trees are just hanging out. It's some things, in my opinion, my opinion. [1:06:03, 1:06:06]: That could have been done immediately, could be done right now. [1:06:07, 1:06:19]: to imp to make improvements. Improvements. This is where the community believes that this council uh uh uh is have concerns of a community when the immediate needs are starting to look like something is being done. [1:06:19, 1:06:28]: But when we look at a park that's been sitting there over two years and we talk about the same thing over two years, what does that get into us as elected officials? It looked like we don't even care. [1:06:29, 1:06:39]: So nothing is coming back to us. When we sit there and we get these groups together, we get these uh uh uh engineers and all these people together and they give us ideas if there's no follow-through. [1:06:40, 1:06:45]: Then we're sitting here turning our wheels and we end up in a meeting over two years now later talking about the same thing. [1:06:46, 1:06:48]: To me, that's unacceptable. [1:06:51, 1:06:53]: All right, uh Mirapotem, please go ahead. [1:06:54, 1:07:00]: Let's just cut to the chase. Okay. In the last two years, the council had an opportunity to move forward. [1:07:00, 1:07:01]: On a property. [1:07:02, 1:07:03]: In the area. [1:07:03, 1:07:06]: Decided not to. Somebody else bought it. [1:07:06, 1:07:12]: That's what happened. Okay. We could have done that, but we could not get a consistency on the council. [1:07:12, 1:07:13]: To move forward. [1:07:13, 1:07:15]: And purchase this property. [1:07:15, 1:07:17]: Uh that was ideal. [1:07:17, 1:07:21]: Now we will have to revisit it because someone else has purchased that particular property. [1:07:22, 1:07:26]: But I agree with Councilman Thomas. Let us not move down this road. [1:07:27, 1:07:30]: Get everything done and then we gotta tear it up. [1:07:31, 1:07:34]: to go ahead and we'll access a new drive. [1:07:34, 1:07:37]: I I too was looking at those properties on the map. [1:07:38, 1:07:40]: And the city does own sever several parcels. [1:07:41, 1:07:42]: Uh along [1:07:42, 1:07:44]: Uh M L Kell Senior. [1:07:44, 1:07:50]: MLK Senior Trail that we could access. There's an access right there at MLK. [1:07:50, 1:07:53]: Uh and second street, and there's also another access. [1:07:54, 1:07:58]: Which uh I I have put out there to the council, which is right there at the bridge. [1:07:58, 1:07:59]: In the right of way. [1:08:00, 1:08:03]: uh that we already own, but it can be done in multiple ways. [1:08:03, 1:08:07]: They are the experts to be able to look at it and to assess it. [1:08:07, 1:08:10]: I think once they take a look at it. [1:08:10, 1:08:12]: They'll see there's a easy answer. [1:08:12, 1:08:15]: From Rock Cory Road, you can see the trail. [1:08:16, 1:08:18]: From Rock Hoy Row. [1:08:18, 1:08:20]: If you in the utility is [1:08:20, 1:08:23]: He's met the Georgia Powerheads. [1:08:23, 1:08:38]: You could extend the trail right there through that easement all the way to Rock Quarry Road, uh with uh right there through the through the utility easement, and then you for the pedestrian access to the park, and then you could have a trailhead. [1:08:39, 1:08:46]: uh as well along mlk so you can do both because we know that rock quarry road is going to be widened [1:08:46, 1:08:48]: to four lanes with a ten foot path. [1:08:48, 1:08:59]: along one side of that so that easement will get the trail out of the woods to Rock Quarry Road for pedestrian access and then [1:08:59, 1:09:09]: Uh you could uh you certainly I certainly support a new interest because it is twisted. Because I send people over there all the time and they said I got lost. [1:09:09, 1:09:17]: I could not find it. I tried to take a left. They took a left on second street and they kept going and they could not see it. So [1:09:17, 1:09:19]: I certainly support increasing [1:09:19, 1:09:20]: This scope of work. [1:09:20, 1:09:24]: As a matter of fact, I was gonna make a similar suggestion myself. [1:09:24, 1:09:28]: But I think Councilman Thomas has taken the lead on that in order to do it because [1:09:28, 1:09:29]: Think about it. [1:09:29, 1:09:33]: It you know, just like on the amphitheater and and the things that we do, we need to make sure that [1:09:34, 1:09:49]: connectivity is in everything that we do on these projects because the last thing we want to do is get to the endpoint and realize that it's disjointed in the way that uh it's being done. So I certainly support uh that scope uh increasing scope. [1:09:50, 1:09:51]: And secondarily to that [1:09:52, 1:09:53]: Um [1:09:53, 1:09:59]: And when I saw this uh and I mentioned this to Mr. Knighton, when I saw Master Trail, Master. [1:10:00, 1:10:04]: part plan. I thought, oh wow, we're gonna look at the entire city. [1:10:04, 1:10:06]: in its entirety and we're gonna do everything. [1:10:06, 1:10:17]: Maybe that's a secondary scope of work that needs to come back as we look at and I think Mr. Aaron, you remember that you mentioned uh a pocket park plan for us about [1:10:18, 1:10:19]: Two years ago. [1:10:19, 1:10:22]: Uh as well that we're gonna do a plan of pocket parks. [1:10:22, 1:10:23]: Throughout the city. [1:10:24, 1:10:41]: And as the city endeavors to go forward uh with the connectivity and the trails, it will be a perfect time to do all of those where you do the trailheads, you do the parks, and everything is cohesiveness and the connectivity is introduced. [1:10:42, 1:10:44]: As Councilman Thomas said, because [1:10:44, 1:10:45]: Once we get [1:10:46, 1:10:47]: Everything. [1:10:47, 1:11:00]: out there and we're working on these trails. We don't want to get to the trail, uh get the part already done. And then we get to the trail plan and then we're trying to figure out how to get to the park. We need to be proactive. [1:11:00, 1:11:05]: and making sure that the access is done when we start working on the trail. [1:11:07, 1:11:08]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:11:09, 1:11:09]: Um [1:11:10, 1:11:11]: Is [1:11:11, 1:11:14]: It it's hard for me to to vote for [1:11:15, 1:11:24]: the scope of work that's being uh laid out for Memorial Park, you know, this scope I I think fit well with Gardner Park and Clark Park. [1:11:25, 1:11:26]: But for memoria. [1:11:27, 1:11:35]: There is a greater need, and and you just heard uh that greater need from from three of us already. [1:11:35, 1:11:53]: And we don't and you know, and I don't want to do anything as Mr. Bay said, we don't want to do something and then we have to come back and tear that up because we have gotten to this point in the future. And as Councilman Blount said, we we have been talking about this for a while. Uh it was said that Falcon was going to [1:11:54, 1:12:05]: uh do something, you know, a beard was gonna go out. But you know, but but nothing has happened. Now I I do understand that we as a council, uh Mr. Night, we have a lot on the table. We have a lot of [1:12:06, 1:12:09]: uh financial obligation that's on the table. [1:12:10, 1:12:12]: I I get that part, but [1:12:12, 1:12:15]: If we're going to do this. [1:12:16, 1:12:18]: For memorial part. [1:12:19, 1:12:27]: I I don't see voting for this for memorial because what we just identified, I think, is. [1:12:27, 1:12:37]: um you know, set of presidents first that this just needs to be done first, uh, because it it is a problem. And and again. [1:12:37, 1:12:42]: Uh you know, uh I I'm talking future. I'm thinking forward. [1:12:42, 1:12:43]: Um [1:12:43, 1:12:46]: And as I say all the time, future forward. So [1:12:47, 1:12:52]: For Memorial Park, this this is where we are now. Again, I I can't vote for this. [1:12:53, 1:13:01]: uh unless we sort of gonna uh add, you know, uh to the scope. Now, uh, Mr. Aaron and I, while we were there, [1:13:02, 1:13:05]: We talked of some scenarios for [1:13:05, 1:13:06]: Park it. [1:13:07, 1:13:13]: Uh I don't know Mr. Aaron if if if this is appropriate sort of to bring those things up and [1:13:14, 1:13:16]: I I saw it, I understood it. [1:13:17, 1:13:29]: Um, I'm sort of lukewarm about it, but I do understand and then I do see it. And and and and it makes some sense, but it does change, you know, the scope of Memorial Park with the [1:13:30, 1:13:36]: parking that you sort of recommended. Um don't know if it's gonna come up tonight, but [1:13:36, 1:13:40]: I I just can't see going in this direction for Memorial Park. [1:13:41, 1:13:42]: When [1:13:42, 1:13:43]: The greater need. [1:13:44, 1:13:45]: It's what we just expressed. [1:13:47, 1:13:55]: Well, Mr. Thomas, since you mentioned about the parking issue, Deshus, uh, do you want to talk about that further? What what you all talked about about the these additional options, I guess it is. [1:13:56, 1:14:00]: Uh well we discussed some of the options that uh Heather had Heather [1:14:01, 1:14:07]: had uh suggested or recommended possible options for increasing the parking over there as well as well as Brian. [1:14:07, 1:14:08]: Anna. [1:14:08, 1:14:09]: Uh uh. [1:14:10, 1:14:20]: Uh it's a very wonderful plan suggestions and recommendations she had. I think Councilmember Thomas's main concern is a an additional entrance. [1:14:20, 1:14:28]: into Memorial Park and I I think that can definitely be a part of this discussion and task order was simply adding it to it. [1:14:28, 1:14:36]: But uh the recommendation that Heather had about increasing the parking, I think it'll work wonderful, wonders for Memorial Park. [1:14:38, 1:14:38]: All right. [1:14:39, 1:14:45]: Heather, do you want to explain farther? I'll get you Mr. Blount in just a second. Heather, you want to explain that that parking issue any further? [1:14:45, 1:14:54]: Sure. I you know, I think the neighborhood has experienced some some parking issues. Um, those roads, as you know, are are um narrow. [1:14:54, 1:14:58]: Uh and then to park on them because there's no parking spaces in Memorial Park. [1:14:59, 1:15:00]: has created issues. So [1:15:01, 1:15:08]: That's uh one reason why we suggested this kind of two part uh design and concept for the parks. [1:15:08, 1:15:10]: Um these kind of rougher [1:15:11, 1:15:11]: Uh [1:15:12, 1:15:16]: programmatic bubble diagrams will give us a chance to say [1:15:16, 1:15:22]: Okay, we could do we could double the parking, but this is what it's going to do to the park. And is that really what you want? [1:15:23, 1:15:25]: Or do we provide less parking? [1:15:25, 1:15:28]: make it a little bit more efficient, but you still have, you know. [1:15:28, 1:15:29]: Um [1:15:30, 1:15:35]: a good amount and it gives you a chance to kind of look at those give and takes. [1:15:36, 1:15:39]: before we go completely down the road with a concept. [1:15:39, 1:15:46]: Uh and that's um you know, so we're not saying tonight that you need to double that parking. We know that there's a parking issue there. [1:15:46, 1:15:48]: And this needs to address that. [1:15:49, 1:15:50]: So that's our intent. [1:15:50, 1:15:52]: Okay, thank you. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:15:52, 1:15:55]: Yeah, two things real quick, Mayor. Um [1:15:55, 1:15:57]: No, Councilman Thomas mentioned Falcon. [1:15:57, 1:16:00]: But I don't know if he was aware that Falcon design [1:16:01, 1:16:06]: Went out there with and Mr. Knighton was present at the time and and quite a few recommendations came. [1:16:07, 1:16:09]: From that visit. I don't know if he was aware of that. [1:16:10, 1:16:14]: Uh and those are the kind of things I'm talking about when we're talking about [1:16:14, 1:16:32]: resolution and there and we get the entities out there to look at situations, there has to be some type of follow-up. Um second, Heather, with the with everything that you are talking about with uh Clark Park, uh one of the things that I noticed uh this um past um [1:16:33, 1:16:36]: Mayor Ford, I think you had your event uh this past uh [1:16:37, 1:16:53]: Friday. Correct. Is it Friday? Friday afternoon. We had rain prior to that event. And I see that a lot of standing water that Clark Park has really bad drainage around there. Would this address those issues? Because one of the things that I saw. [1:16:54, 1:17:00]: Is is a mosquito haven out there because there's no drainage. There's no [1:17:00, 1:17:08]: The the water drainage around that park is is great over in the dog park area uh uh from the parking lot through the grassy areas. [1:17:08, 1:17:11]: The the drainage over there is very bad. Is that a [1:17:12, 1:17:21]: Is that something that you all are doing for us? Any des the designs for the water raw? Is that in your scope of uh what you're doing with the park? [1:17:24, 1:17:39]: Um we have noted uh that issue. We've we've also uh seen evidence of it. We uh Mr. Aaron walked us through what was going on, um, and it definitely needs to be addressed. And I'm gonna let Brian uh provide more information about how we'll do that. [1:17:40, 1:17:49]: Yeah, so we're aware we're aware of the problem. Um this is not a detailed engineering study, what what it will do, what getting a survey will do. [1:17:50, 1:17:54]: Uh will tell us where we can and can't fill. That's a low area, it's a floodplain. [1:17:55, 1:17:58]: A good bit of it's a floodplain, some of it might be a flood way. [1:17:58, 1:18:00]: Um and you know uh [1:18:01, 1:18:08]: The first thing we gotta do is figure out where those lines of demarcation are because outside of that, we can do things to to help. [1:18:09, 1:18:11]: inside of that area we can still um [1:18:12, 1:18:16]: We can improve drainage, and when I say that, we can improve uh [1:18:17, 1:18:22]: How quickly the water exits, or how the water exits, or focus uh [1:18:22, 1:18:28]: uh ways for the water to get out or create low spots so the water can go in so it collects a little differently. [1:18:29, 1:18:33]: If there are contact or uh if there are uh conflicts like that. [1:18:34, 1:18:40]: Um so that will be part of the study we do. And I think I think uh what would come out of this study are [1:18:40, 1:18:45]: Probably recommendations uh for additional detailed studies. [1:18:46, 1:18:53]: And that's that's really when the engineers would come in uh and look at the hydrology and all that uh detailed stuff. So [1:18:54, 1:18:57]: And I think the important difference between [1:18:58, 1:19:03]: just calling an engineer to do this and calling us to do it as Heather pointed it out. [1:19:04, 1:19:18]: We're going to look at multiple different ways to solve this problem. And we're also going to look at the cost of multiple different ways to solve the problem and let this group and other folks at the city give input so that we're picking the right solution. [1:19:18, 1:19:20]: And then we're gonna let the engineers. [1:19:20, 1:19:24]: you know, do the the black and white work it takes to actually get the drawing. [1:19:25, 1:19:30]: uh for the detailed hydrology done. So that's kind of how the process for that part would work. [1:19:31, 1:19:32]: Right. [1:19:32, 1:19:34]: Miraport Tim, go ahead, please. [1:19:34, 1:19:51]: Yeah, I think what we've really been describing tonight is w the the the original title of what we need is our is is is listed. The scope of work is not that. What we really need is a master park plan. [1:19:52, 1:19:56]: That looks into all of these details that we just talked about, which is [1:19:56, 1:19:57]: The connectivity. [1:19:58, 1:20:00]: It would look into [1:20:00, 1:20:03]: Uh all of the elements in the park. [1:20:03, 1:20:04]: That we're talking about. [1:20:05, 1:20:05]: It will look at [1:20:06, 1:20:07]: Down the road. [1:20:07, 1:20:08]: In the future. [1:20:09, 1:20:09]: Uh [1:20:10, 1:20:13]: Additional parks that might be needed throughout the city. [1:20:13, 1:20:14]: It would also look at [1:20:15, 1:20:19]: As we get ready to work out our master trail plan, it will locate where [1:20:19, 1:20:21]: We're gonna put our trailheads at. [1:20:22, 1:20:25]: And then as Mr. Knighton stated, I mean Mr. Aaron stated. [1:20:26, 1:20:37]: uh we uh when we had at our retreat in twenty eight twenty seventeen, I think it was eighteen, uh about the uh pocket parks plan. So we'd have a total scope all over the city. [1:20:38, 1:20:41]: Where we could look at the improvements that are needed. [1:20:41, 1:20:44]: Uh in all of these parts that could be put together. [1:20:45, 1:20:57]: You know, we don't have we we don't really have a park in the Walt Stevens area. Will we have one in the future? I don't know. But I think I think we should. Those are the kind of things that you would be able to look forward at by doing a complete [1:20:58, 1:21:00]: Master Parts Plan. [1:21:00, 1:21:01]: For the city. [1:21:01, 1:21:06]: and encompassing, but I certainly would not want to go and do anything [1:21:07, 1:21:11]: What we're talking about tonight with the limited scope of work, but indeed. [1:21:11, 1:21:14]: the master parks plan would deal with [1:21:14, 1:21:15]: The here and now. [1:21:16, 1:21:17]: The connectivity. [1:21:17, 1:21:19]: And future. [1:21:19, 1:21:21]: uh park locations. [1:21:21, 1:21:24]: as well uh and as beautification throughout the city. [1:21:25, 1:21:27]: Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:21:27, 1:21:35]: Well uh Mayor Pro Tem sort of just threw um a little bit more into this, so he sort of threw me off with with that. [1:21:35, 1:21:40]: Um what I was originally gonna say, you know, here we are tonight. [1:21:40, 1:21:42]: Uh, with this proposal on the table. [1:21:43, 1:21:47]: Um I I understand it's just a um [1:21:47, 1:21:50]: A proposal, it's a study, it's a survey. [1:21:51, 1:21:55]: But I my my original question though was still [1:21:57, 1:21:59]: Will this steady [1:22:00, 1:22:02]: include [1:22:03, 1:22:05]: The possibility of [1:22:05, 1:22:08]: Uh a study that will look at [1:22:08, 1:22:11]: uh connectivity and accessibility. [1:22:12, 1:22:15]: Now it seemed to include parking. [1:22:15, 1:22:16]: Um [1:22:16, 1:22:18]: That was my third. So [1:22:18, 1:22:21]: I'm still sorta asking this question. Um [1:22:23, 1:22:31]: If we're going to vote on this, then I don't know from what I'm hearing, I don't know if it's doubtful that uh you know we're going to actually [1:22:31, 1:22:33]: Render a vote tonight on this is [1:22:34, 1:22:41]: We threw a lot at you, uh, Mrs. Hubble and Mr. Mr. Bay. We threw a lot in this, uh, Mr. Aaron and uh Mr. Nightingale. [1:22:42, 1:22:43]: I I'm still a little [1:22:44, 1:22:47]: Uh I still have questions. [1:22:48, 1:22:53]: Let let me see if I could ask this question this way, uh uh m Mrs. Hubble. [1:22:53, 1:22:58]: Um I know everyone, I know y'all are looking for a vote tonight. [1:22:59, 1:23:00]: To do [1:23:01, 1:23:03]: And I put a question mark there. [1:23:04, 1:23:10]: And I understand, you know, and I know Councilman Blount threw out something, another issue about Clog Park. [1:23:10, 1:23:15]: And you know, this proposal may fit well with the other two bars. [1:23:15, 1:23:17]: Um, but with memorial pop. [1:23:18, 1:23:21]: It seems that there is a is a higher hurdle. [1:23:21, 1:23:23]: uh to to to jump. [1:23:24, 1:23:24]: So [1:23:25, 1:23:28]: Mr. Nighton, Mr. Bayes [1:23:28, 1:23:32]: Uh Miss Hubble, I I saw that still need to answer because [1:23:33, 1:23:34]: Again. [1:23:34, 1:23:36]: I don't want to vote on this. [1:23:37, 1:23:40]: For Memorial Park, if it's not going to meet [1:23:40, 1:23:42]: The knees. [1:23:42, 1:23:49]: Other concerns that we have for Memorial Park. It could be uh a preliminary step. [1:23:50, 1:23:57]: Uh, but I think at some point we got to address it. And as Councilman Blount said, you know, we've been talking about Memorial Park for two years. So [1:23:58, 1:23:59]: Um [1:24:01, 1:24:05]: I mean so so where are we? So I'm just saying is [1:24:05, 1:24:08]: I I don't know if I could vote for it if this is if [1:24:08, 1:24:11]: If the work is not going to be done. [1:24:11, 1:24:15]: To bring back uh some answers. [1:24:16, 1:24:24]: I you know, I just I just don't see how I could I could actually vote for it if it's not going to meet the concerns. So Mr. Nighton. [1:24:24, 1:24:26]: Yeah. So [1:24:26, 1:24:27]: Yeah, miss. [1:24:27, 1:24:28]: Chaos. [1:24:29, 1:24:31]: Okay. Go ahead. [1:24:31, 1:24:35]: Yes, I was gonna say that um obviously there have been a number of things that have been raised tonight. [1:24:36, 1:24:41]: Um, which are broader than the proposed scope that we brought to you. [1:24:42, 1:24:47]: Mm-hmm. So what we could do is take the take the uh concerns that you raised tonight. [1:24:48, 1:24:57]: Obviously, Ms. Hubble will have to uh have to weigh in on this, but take the concerns that you raised tonight. Number one about vehicular access, and I misunderstood it initially. I was [1:24:57, 1:25:00]: I thought the initial was about pedestrian access, but [1:25:00, 1:25:08]: Vinic vehicular access. Yeah. Um, and so take a look at the vehicular access uh piece of it. [1:25:08, 1:25:10]: As well as the other [1:25:10, 1:25:14]: Items that were mentioned tonight in a more comprehensive [1:25:14, 1:25:16]: Parts master planning. [1:25:16, 1:25:17]: Assessment. [1:25:18, 1:25:23]: I think that's what I'm hearing from uh the council. And so the scope that you've been presented tonight. [1:25:24, 1:25:28]: is not broad enough to fit the categories that have been mentioned with I think are very good comments. [1:25:29, 1:25:30]: And so if [1:25:30, 1:25:35]: You would allow uh Miss Hubble and her team to go back and bring us something back. [1:25:35, 1:25:39]: within um uh I don't know if they could do it by the next meeting or not. [1:25:40, 1:25:46]: Um, but um maybe uh the following meeting um to bring something back to us that would encompass [1:25:46, 1:25:55]: All of the items in a more comp in a more comprehensive fashion that you all have discussed about the other parts and also about the vehicular access. [1:25:55, 1:26:01]: to Memorial Park, as well as pocket parks and other s and other potential site locations for parks in the future. [1:26:02, 1:26:05]: Right. See you could walk the Reeves Creek Trail. [1:26:06, 1:26:08]: And walk into [1:26:08, 1:26:11]: Memorial Park. So that's a connectivity there, but [1:26:11, 1:26:16]: But if if Rockwater Road is wide and there's a a trail [1:26:16, 1:26:17]: On rock quarry. [1:26:18, 1:26:22]: Uh, you can't get into Reed's Creek and you can't get into [1:26:22, 1:26:25]: Um Memorial Park. So [1:26:25, 1:26:28]: I I think that has to be answered as well. [1:26:29, 1:26:35]: All right. Out of curiosity, uh Miss Gantt, I'm sorry, m Mr. Bays, you have something to say, I'm sorry. [1:26:35, 1:26:42]: Well, I I just um there's a lot there are a lot of terminologies being thrown around here and and I just want to make sure I understand. [1:26:42, 1:26:47]: uh what you're asking us and and uh all all this is fantastic. I think um [1:26:48, 1:26:56]: Kind of when we initially started talking about this, I had hoped this was kind of where it was going. So I'm glad that I'm glad it sounds like it's backing up a little bit. [1:26:57, 1:27:00]: Um so what what uh [1:27:00, 1:27:04]: Uh, Mayor Pro Tem Alexander was referring to as call a park system plan. [1:27:04, 1:27:24]: Um, and that's where you assess your entire park system in the city and you look at um you look at the programming in each park at a higher level, you look for park uh deficiencies, so uh areas or neighborhoods or zones that are underserved by parks and identify need for new parks. [1:27:24, 1:27:30]: And it may, you know, and you may also identify uh land for new parks and then um [1:27:31, 1:27:36]: Once you do that, you look at each individual park, what uh programmatically what [1:27:36, 1:27:54]: types of things are in the park, what the community wants in the parks, what types of improvements you need, like for instance, uh an item that would definitely be on this list is this access to Memorial Drive, uh or I'm sorry, access to Memorial Park from uh Cory Drive, Rock Cory Drive. [1:27:54, 1:27:58]: uh you know better trail access and connectivity. [1:27:58, 1:28:03]: Uh this plan would look at system wide connectivity of parks. [1:28:03, 1:28:08]: So uh we would uh inventory all the trails that you have. [1:28:08, 1:28:23]: uh and meaningful connections the part that you have look for gaps do a gap analysis for that and identify um you know need there and then i think here's the key item uh or the key takeaway from this type of study [1:28:24, 1:28:28]: We would generate a list much like you have for the transportation splots list. [1:28:29, 1:28:32]: Of and this group would prioritize those items on that list. [1:28:33, 1:28:40]: With dollar amounts. And that would be a list that you could work from and work down kind of systematically over the next. [1:28:41, 1:28:43]: You know, five, ten year horizon. [1:28:43, 1:28:47]: uh to kind of solve all those kind of park system needs. [1:28:47, 1:28:49]: Uh and then [1:28:49, 1:28:58]: Um, where we would go from there is looking at you know design of each of these kind of on an individual basis. So [1:28:59, 1:29:19]: To me, that's that would be the best approach, a more comprehensive approach. It would really kind of look at everything and assess need and priorities of everything at once to help you guys stay organized, to help you focus the money where it's most needed in a timely manner, and to get more done. [1:29:19, 1:29:21]: Across the community so [1:29:21, 1:29:24]: I just wanted to kind of toss that out there. So [1:29:24, 1:29:33]: Uh so you all would know what that looks like. Make that makes good like good sense. Stand by please, uh Mr. Thomas. Ms. Gantt, you have yet to speak. You have any comments here? [1:29:34, 1:29:39]: Um well the only comment I have probably goes to our um [1:29:39, 1:29:43]: finance and Mr. Knighton in regards to [1:29:43, 1:29:44]: Um [1:29:44, 1:29:48]: a budget for this, what's our budget amount and will we [1:29:48, 1:29:51]: What's our plan in funding these projects? [1:29:56, 1:29:59]: I think that funding ultimately would be determined by [1:30:00, 1:30:03]: Um if an assessment is done a part [1:30:03, 1:30:06]: uh improvement assessment is done as Mr. Bates talked about. [1:30:07, 1:30:11]: That would then determine. I think the next steps would then determine. [1:30:12, 1:30:17]: what all of those projects entail and how much they do cost and then priorities would have to be determined. [1:30:17, 1:30:20]: Based on a set uh funding amount. [1:30:20, 1:30:21]: By the council. [1:30:22, 1:30:27]: Um, you know, we've got some money, a little bit of money in splost five, about one and a half million splash five. [1:30:28, 1:30:33]: But um I'm sure we're talking about much more than that in terms of a comprehensive look. [1:30:33, 1:30:40]: of how we might finance some significant park improvements and or cite new parks. [1:30:40, 1:30:43]: And so I think the assessment would need to be done first. [1:30:43, 1:30:45]: Funding sources determined. [1:30:45, 1:30:51]: of how those would um actually be f priorities set and then funding those priorities. [1:30:53, 1:30:59]: And that seems a little w what uh Mr. Bays was talking about earlier. Stand by please. Uh Miss Barber, do you have anything you needed to say at this time? [1:31:02, 1:31:04]: Thank you, Mayor. Actually, um [1:31:05, 1:31:09]: Someone brought this up um just a while ago about the [1:31:09, 1:31:13]: uh easement with Georgia Power, you're able to see [1:31:13, 1:31:15]: Ray's Creek Trail from Rock Quarry Road. [1:31:17, 1:31:18]: Um Mr. Knighton. [1:31:20, 1:31:21]: So with that easement. [1:31:22, 1:31:24]: Um I assume that it would be [1:31:25, 1:31:26]: Owned by Georgia Power. [1:31:27, 1:31:40]: Would it be appropriate for us to approach them about adding an entryway or partnering with us on an entryway from Rock Quarry Road to connect to Reese Creek Trail? [1:31:43, 1:31:44]: Is that appropriate? [1:31:44, 1:31:45]: On the easement. [1:31:45, 1:31:46]: The easement. [1:31:46, 1:31:53]: that they have, I think I think sure that would be appropriate to have a conversation with them about potential use of the easement. [1:31:54, 1:31:55]: That they have from Rockport. [1:31:56, 1:32:00]: Okay. Um with that area, um [1:32:01, 1:32:01]: Wait. [1:32:01, 1:32:02]: Vehicular. [1:32:03, 1:32:05]: Access to Reese Creek Trail. [1:32:05, 1:32:08]: there. Would it also require us to [1:32:08, 1:32:13]: get permission from Georgia Power if we wanted to do a trailhead. [1:32:13, 1:32:15]: Somewhere in that area as well. [1:32:16, 1:32:21]: If anything would infringe upon the Georgia Power Easement, it would it would require their approval. [1:32:22, 1:32:26]: They may have some restrictions in fact in involved in their easements. [1:32:26, 1:32:30]: I mean, I think a conversation can take place. We have a contact there, we can have a conversation with [1:32:31, 1:32:35]: um regarding that, uh but we can we can have that conversation. [1:32:36, 1:32:44]: But I think also the larger issue is what Mr. Bayes was talking about, is then determining what are the appropriate ingress and egress points to the trail. [1:32:45, 1:32:48]: Or to the park, excuse me, from the Rock Quarry Road area. [1:32:49, 1:32:49]: Okay. [1:32:51, 1:32:53]: Okay, that was the only question I had. Thank you. [1:32:53, 1:32:54]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:32:55, 1:32:58]: I I I hate I hate to drag this out and I didn't [1:32:58, 1:33:03]: Well, Mr. Aaron and I got together today. I d I didn't know I was gonna really just go this far with this, but [1:33:04, 1:33:04]: Um [1:33:05, 1:33:11]: See qu Mr. Night, when you talked about the T splash and you talked about the ML King trailhead. [1:33:11, 1:33:13]: Um bulky. So I don't [1:33:14, 1:33:16]: How how do you do that? [1:33:18, 1:33:18]: Without [1:33:19, 1:33:28]: Connectivity, uh, you know, to the part. That's that's one thing. But ultimately, let me just say this. I I I would recommend or put this into motion. [1:33:28, 1:33:38]: uh that y you know at the uh at the meeting on the twenty seventh, you know, to bring back a scope of work for Gardner Park and a Clark Park. [1:33:39, 1:33:42]: But to do a a new scope. [1:33:42, 1:33:44]: Uh for memorial. [1:33:44, 1:33:48]: And maybe bring that back, um, maybe um [1:33:49, 1:33:52]: you know, maybe August uh or even September. [1:33:53, 1:33:58]: But um um you know when we talk about the tease box and we talked about the ML King. [1:33:58, 1:33:59]: Uh here. [1:34:01, 1:34:04]: I I just don't know how how we could talk about that. [1:34:04, 1:34:07]: And it's not connected to to the park. Um [1:34:08, 1:34:10]: I'm sort of lost right there. Um, but [1:34:11, 1:34:13]: That's the motion I really wanted to make was to [1:34:14, 1:34:34]: uh brain brack a new scope of word for gardener and clog. I don't know if that if I don't know if they need any modification. Right. I I was gonna ask you Councilman Thomas, why what what if they don't need modifications, maybe the motion could be to accept Clark Park and Gardner Park without the memorial park and you can move forward that point versus waiting another couple of weeks to make two [1:34:34, 1:34:45]: to for them to come back. It's my clock option. The only reason I said that I know Councilman Blount said something about some standing water, but that may be already in the original scope for Claw. [1:34:46, 1:34:48]: Uh and so if that being the case. [1:34:48, 1:34:51]: Um that would be the motion that I'd like to make is that [1:34:52, 1:34:52]: Um [1:34:53, 1:34:58]: you know, go forward with the plan for Garner and Claw. [1:34:59, 1:35:02]: But to bring back for memorial park. [1:35:03, 1:35:12]: A new scope of work. And see, and so my other question, Mr. Nine, I was gonna ask, I know Councilwoman Gantt mentioned something about finances. So [1:35:12, 1:35:13]: You know [1:35:13, 1:35:16]: W what is the finance if you can itemize that? [1:35:17, 1:35:27]: or individualize, you know, what's set aside for this park, this park and that park. So th that that's a problem I have. I I couldn't vote to spend money. [1:35:27, 1:35:30]: For Memorial Park, um on um [1:35:31, 1:35:31]: Oh. [1:35:31, 1:35:33]: The scope of work identified in A. [1:35:34, 1:35:38]: Whereas the scope that we uh really need is in in scope B. [1:35:39, 1:35:40]: So [1:35:41, 1:35:50]: But not to just prolong it. That that would be my motion to uh I move to just move forward, you know, with this scope of work. [1:35:50, 1:35:51]: For a gardener [1:35:51, 1:35:52]: And Claude. [1:35:53, 1:35:56]: Батуско. [1:35:57, 1:35:59]: А фор Мемморію. [1:35:59, 1:36:04]: And whatever the individualized finances for [1:36:04, 1:36:05]: Memorial. [1:36:06, 1:36:08]: uh be set aside for the new scope. [1:36:09, 1:36:10]: Um [1:36:10, 1:36:11]: Uh from Memorial Park. [1:36:12, 1:36:14]: Okay, is there a second to that motion? [1:36:16, 1:36:17]: Is there a second? [1:36:18, 1:36:19]: To that motion. [1:36:21, 1:36:24]: Right now, Mr. Thomas is now second to the motion. [1:36:24, 1:36:25]: Okay. [1:36:25, 1:36:32]: I'm I'm wondering do they understand the motion? I I I don't know. Uh we'll we'll find out in just a second. Councilman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:36:32, 1:36:35]: Hopefully an alternate motion. [1:36:36, 1:36:36]: I'm not saying that. [1:36:37, 1:36:38]: Oh go ahead. [1:36:38, 1:36:43]: I like to make an alternate motion, a motion to um [1:36:43, 1:36:47]: Move with a comprehensive park master plan. [1:36:48, 1:36:48]: Um [1:36:50, 1:36:50]: Yes. [1:36:51, 1:36:57]: Memorial Park, we we know that there's gonna be a lot of work. Um [1:36:57, 1:37:01]: And the scope of work will be expanded for this entire [1:37:01, 1:37:02]: Uh [1:37:03, 1:37:03]: Task order. [1:37:04, 1:37:06]: With a comprehensive [1:37:06, 1:37:07]: Parkmaster plan. [1:37:09, 1:37:10]: The scope of work will be [1:37:11, 1:37:14]: expanded automatically. We've already told them what we wanted. [1:37:16, 1:37:16]: Right. [1:37:17, 1:37:18]: Okay. [1:37:19, 1:37:29]: Uh I I would want to second that. I just certainly wanted to make sure that we addressed Councilman Thomas's concern that Memorial Park w would be priority. [1:37:29, 1:37:32]: Because that is a part that has been neglected over time. [1:37:33, 1:37:35]: And that we want to make sure that [1:37:35, 1:37:40]: If anything is funded, that Memorial Park does get funding. So included in the comprehensive plan. [1:37:41, 1:37:43]: Is that we were pri prioritize [1:37:43, 1:37:44]: uh memorial park. [1:37:44, 1:37:51]: My only concern about the other two parks is you even if if you move forward with Gardner and Clark. [1:37:51, 1:37:57]: You don't have any real connectivity between the two. And at some point, we might want to study a tunnel. [1:37:58, 1:38:00]: Up under the railroad tracks to connect the two. [1:38:00, 1:38:05]: That's ideal trail connection right there. Instead of going down the road. [1:38:05, 1:38:08]: You go under the tracks and then you put a tunnel in there. [1:38:08, 1:38:10]: And then you you really do it right. [1:38:10, 1:38:13]: I I would certainly uh second that. [1:38:14, 1:38:22]: Okay. Now make now you s you said a couple of things and and so did Barber. So I gotta make sure we got this this motion correct. So [1:38:23, 1:38:23]: Miss Clark. [1:38:24, 1:38:37]: What do you have? What do you have for a motion at this point? What do you have for a motion? At this point I have Councilwoman Barber making a motion for a comprehensive park master plan for the city. [1:38:38, 1:38:41]: And Mayor Pro Tem Alexander seconded that. [1:38:41, 1:38:42]: Edding. [1:38:42, 1:38:46]: that Memorial Park be priority in that plan. [1:38:47, 1:38:56]: All right. So is that the motion? And and Miss Barber, since you started the motion, do you accept Mayor Pro Tem's addition uh um uh addition to that particular motion? [1:38:57, 1:39:00]: Yes. Okay, so is that what the clerk [1:39:00, 1:39:12]: wrote that is the motion. That's the combined motion. All right. And I'm if I understand right, Ms. Barber, you made a motion and mayor pro if I stand right, Vanessa Holiday, the mayor protemps second that particular motion. Is that correct? [1:39:12, 1:39:16]: Or not? That's correct. That's what I have. All right. Now further discussion on the motion. [1:39:17, 1:39:20]: Yeah. Ms Ms Gan, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Miss Can. [1:39:20, 1:39:24]: Um I thank you. I appreciate um [1:39:25, 1:39:27]: I think a comprehensive park plan. [1:39:27, 1:39:29]: Does make sense to do? [1:39:30, 1:39:48]: Um I actually think that Memorial Park will be a priority. However, because we don't know the financial standpoint of anything, you know, that tied to the trails, tied to what we need. I don't know if we we we oftentimes lately have [1:39:49, 1:39:52]: add it to our motions and went ahead went ahead and and [1:39:53, 1:39:56]: prematurely decided what's going to be our priority. [1:39:56, 1:40:03]: Instead of just getting a list and then saying, okay, we're gonna tackle that first. It may be based off of some type of engineering. [1:40:04, 1:40:20]: or um architectural or or something that's needed right then for connectivity to our downtown or whatever the case may be, I think that we limit ourselves by making the motion and saying no, we want you to prioritize solely, you know, a particular park. [1:40:20, 1:40:21]: Um [1:40:22, 1:40:32]: I'm I I think that eventually we would probably say that m Memorial Park is is something that we do want to update, including parking. We've been talking about that for a very long time. [1:40:33, 1:40:33]: Um [1:40:34, 1:40:39]: But if I recall the parcels that we were trying to acquire at one point weren't available. [1:40:39, 1:40:40]: Um [1:40:40, 1:40:41]: And so [1:40:41, 1:40:42]: Yeah. [1:40:42, 1:40:48]: If my memory serves me correctly, and I've looked at some of the emails from the past, but [1:40:48, 1:40:49]: Um [1:40:50, 1:41:10]: As I've stated, I think that and I think I like Councilwoman Barber's idea of a comprehensive park. We can go ahead and vote for my that being a priority, being the priority Memorial Park, but I think that we should, you know, be mindful that once we get that park. [1:41:10, 1:41:16]: the the comprehensive plan, we make we can make a decision and rank what we can do first based off of the financials that we have. [1:41:17, 1:41:19]: Okay. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:41:21, 1:41:32]: You know, I I think this counts as a whole is w we're all kind of saying that we want the same thing. How do we get there? And uh we want to make sure that those that that the memorial park gets some priority. [1:41:32, 1:41:34]: One of the things that concerns me [1:41:34, 1:41:36]: right now with two things. [1:41:37, 1:41:52]: Is there's a need right now for Memorial Park? We want to make sure that those needs are identified, those things are uh funding is identified, and those immediate needs right there are taken care of and in the scope of a [1:41:52, 1:41:54]: Total comprehensive plan. [1:41:54, 1:41:56]: Um and I and I guess [1:41:57, 1:41:58]: Агіес промі. [1:41:58, 1:42:02]: I thought the way it should work was that we come to [1:42:03, 1:42:03]: Staff. [1:42:05, 1:42:08]: And we say what we want to do as a council. [1:42:09, 1:42:13]: Because none of us are financial advisors, none of us are overfinance. [1:42:14, 1:42:27]: I thought that that staff itself should bring us what we want with recommendations on how to fund those things. And then the councils chooses which element we're going to use to fund it. [1:42:28, 1:42:32]: Because when we ask about funding, we can't just sit on here and say [1:42:33, 1:42:39]: Well, that's up to the council. No, we hired a finance, we got a person over finance and we have a city manager here. [1:42:40, 1:42:51]: And it's up to you all to look at our finances on what this council wants and bring recommendations and A, B, or C, just like we do when we talk about how many polls we want to vote at. [1:42:51, 1:43:04]: And it then is up to this council to choose off of recommendations, of a staff, and and connect and fund it because we don't sit at a desk all day trying to figure out these things. We we you know we're part, you know. [1:43:04, 1:43:24]: We're we're we're part-time uh people. We got full-time staff to say, hey, this is the funding we have for this. This is the future funding we have for this. If we take funding from here, this would affect that. That's not for not one, that's not for any council member on here to do. That's for staff to do and bring recommendation to us on how we're gonna fund these projects. [1:43:26, 1:43:35]: To say to to it's to me is unacceptable to say whatever this whatever the council wants to do, we w we want everything for the city of Stockbridge. [1:43:36, 1:43:41]: But we want staff to tell us how we can get there through recommendations. I thought that's how it's supposed to work. [1:43:44, 1:44:04]: Sounds good to me as a process for it to work that way. Just want to make a note here in Mare Pro Tem in reference to a bridge between uh Clark Park and Gardner Park. That is something I was informed that came up well maybe 10 years or so ago through through some discussion. And oddly enough, believe it or not, I discussed exactly [1:44:04, 1:44:24]: Same thing with Mr. Mighton Knighton earlier today about that and whether or not that would be something for connectivity. When I saw had a better understanding, what I thought was on the on this particular program for tonight, the agenda in reference to a master trail, a master park type plan for connectivity. Obviously that would be probably very costly to have a bridge. [1:44:24, 1:44:42]: be a tunnel underneath the railroad track there and obviously we have to evolve northwest southern in that conversation but i guess that's something that can potentially look at if we if the council decides as a collected group to to do that but uh oddly enough i talked about the earlier day so anyway good deal mr thomas please [1:44:42, 1:44:45]: Okay, so Mr. Knight and Mr. Aaron. [1:44:46, 1:44:50]: Uh, the way that this was presented tonight, um [1:44:50, 1:44:56]: There's a dollar amount. Um, I'm looking at the uh agenda item. So there's a dollar amount. [1:44:56, 1:44:58]: And there's a source. [1:44:58, 1:45:00]: uh uh funding. [1:45:00, 1:45:04]: So with this dollar mount that's indicated [1:45:04, 1:45:07]: How how far would that go? [1:45:07, 1:45:10]: Um in this motion [1:45:10, 1:45:13]: That was made by Councilwoman Barber. [1:45:14, 1:45:31]: Well, Councilmember Thomas, this was this initial plan was this is a live living, breathing document. We had like immediate needs, then we had short-term needs, and then we had long-term needs. And the things that we were looking at initially were things that needed to be resolved. [1:45:31, 1:45:51]: In the short term, like renovated restroom, the pavilion issues you had, the parking at Memorial Park, those are the things we were looking at in the short term, but we're gonna build on this document to keep adding as you know, one could be acquiring additional properties for additional parts, one could be designing parts for [1:45:51, 1:46:00]: For the future and things of that nature. But this was more like what we needed immediately: the drainage issues in Clark Park, you know, the pavilion. [1:46:01, 1:46:07]: issues and misunderstandings we have and then the lack of parking at Memorial Park. So we were addressing immediate needs. [1:46:08, 1:46:17]: on this first document and then we would build on that as we saw these immediate needs that we had and that's how the project was. [1:46:18, 1:46:19]: design and and discussed. [1:46:20, 1:46:23]: Okay. I yield back, Mayor. Thank you, uh Mr. Ayer. [1:46:23, 1:46:25]: Mirapal Tim, go ahead, please. [1:46:25, 1:46:30]: Yeah, I just want to say this and understanding we have one point five million dollars set. [1:46:30, 1:46:33]: Aside uh for park improvements and splash. [1:46:33, 1:46:37]: Of course, it's not gonna cost one point five million dollars to do memorial park. [1:46:37, 1:46:41]: So we're prioritizing Memorial Park. We should make those residents feel [1:46:41, 1:46:44]: It is that that's gonna be a priority. [1:46:44, 1:46:45]: uh in the entire [1:46:46, 1:46:46]: Um [1:46:46, 1:46:48]: project. But but understand [1:46:49, 1:47:01]: Uh Mr. B Mr B Mr Bays and Miss Ms. Hubble, give us a a a estimation if as you could on what the cost would be for the comprehensive plan that has been suggested by Miss Barber that I support. [1:47:05, 1:47:06]: I'm not a [1:47:07, 1:47:08]: You're good. Go ahead. You were all right, sir. [1:47:09, 1:47:10]: Why Miss Bays? [1:47:11, 1:47:31]: There you go. I I'm not really comfortable just kind of tossing out a number for that right now because I need to I need to prepare a little bit and look at the extents of the the parks, you know, zoom out, look at all the parks you have because it does require and there are a couple other pieces of information I need to. I need to uh [1:47:31, 1:47:45]: We need to understand what types of existing studies there are because there'll be a review of that to make sure that we're including any future planned projects in there like trailheads and improvements to roads and other things like that. [1:47:46, 1:47:51]: Um the other the other big piece of that uh potential. [1:47:51, 1:47:58]: A thing that could swing it a number of ways is how much public involvement or what's and what style of public involvement. [1:47:58, 1:48:00]: Uh, you would like to have. [1:48:01, 1:48:01]: Um [1:48:02, 1:48:03]: But I mean it's you know it's [1:48:05, 1:48:06]: It could be a fairly quick [1:48:07, 1:48:09]: A down and dirty process like [1:48:10, 1:48:10]: You know. [1:48:11, 1:48:13]: Four or six months, or it could be [1:48:13, 1:48:16]: You know, six to eight months, depending on how complicated it is. I [1:48:16, 1:48:20]: I would be glad to go uh to step back this week and [1:48:20, 1:48:23]: Outline a couple high level options. [1:48:23, 1:48:27]: Uh, to share with you so that you have an understanding of the cost. [1:48:27, 1:48:44]: One one of the thing, a couple of things that it won't we won't need at this point, surveys. Uh you know, the current proposal you have in front of you has kind of more detailed land surveys in it. We wouldn't need that. We can use existing data that's out there to do the kind of work that we would need to do for that. [1:48:44, 1:48:45]: Um [1:48:45, 1:49:03]: And then the other question that came up was about funding. Uh we work with a grant funding uh uh grant and uh funding company that helps identify grants based on the plans that we produce, uh that we had quite a bit of success with all across the southeast. So that [1:49:03, 1:49:09]: would most certainly be part of the approach that we would want to take for for this project. [1:49:10, 1:49:12]: But it's it's an extensive [1:49:12, 1:49:15]: It's an extensive kind of piece of work. [1:49:15, 1:49:18]: uh being comprehensive for your entire city. So [1:49:19, 1:49:19]: Right. [1:49:20, 1:49:28]: Uh Mr Seminai, Mr. Knight, and you were I think you were going to say something earlier to us uh earlier issue concerned. No, not at the moment, sir. Thank you. Okay. Uh Mr. Blount. [1:49:31, 1:49:37]: Yeah, I I um I would I would be for us uh allowing um [1:49:38, 1:49:40]: Um Ryan and um [1:49:40, 1:49:43]: Heather to uh brian or whoever to [1:49:44, 1:49:52]: Go ahead and let us know what what the these costs are gonna be and in the and which direction they're gonna go. Uh [1:49:52, 1:50:12]: with the studies or whatever they're gonna do, because if we don't do it that way, then we're basically approving a blank check to go to to do whatever. So I think that we should at least at least know the cost that we're approving tonight, along with anything that we approve, we at least know the cost of it. So right now we don't. And I think that uh whatever we approve tonight that we do get the [1:50:12, 1:50:16]: before it's finalized and moving forward that we do get the cost. [1:50:17, 1:50:21]: Okay. Mrs. Mr. Thomas, you're still unmuted. So you have something else additional to say? [1:50:21, 1:50:24]: Well, uh I I'm okay with um [1:50:25, 1:50:27]: Councilwoman Bar with motion and the second. [1:50:28, 1:50:32]: Uh again, I'm I'm just looking at the bottom line here. Um [1:50:32, 1:50:33]: Um I'm looking at [1:50:34, 1:50:36]: What was proposed? [1:50:36, 1:50:52]: um in this uh proposal for the finances and and I guess if we had not raised all these issues and if we would have approved this then um you know we would have been looking at uh you know spending that money uh from the uh the splash source. [1:50:54, 1:50:57]: I I don't know if a s if the study [1:50:58, 1:51:01]: uh would would exceed this [1:51:01, 1:51:05]: I I guess if you're talking about a overall city wide [1:51:05, 1:51:10]: Comprehensive plan looking at new parks in different areas of the city. [1:51:10, 1:51:11]: Yeah, maybe. [1:51:12, 1:51:12]: Um [1:51:14, 1:51:17]: You know, we we we said a lot tonight. Um [1:51:19, 1:51:21]: I'm okay with it with the with the motion. [1:51:21, 1:51:23]: And and the second. [1:51:23, 1:51:24]: Um [1:51:25, 1:51:38]: And I guess the only thing left is for uh Mrs. Hubble to come back and uh Mr. Knight to come back and tell us, you know, what what is what is it gonna cost uh for us to uh do the uh to comprehend. [1:51:38, 1:51:42]: Um stand it since that's the motion and the second that's on the table. [1:51:42, 1:52:00]: Okay, I have a question for uh TSW. Uh how much time do you think you need? Or when when can you get there? If we approve this tonight, uh what what's the time frame that we expect some type of results uh from you? Uh two weeks, four weeks, uh you know, what what is it? What would it be? What's the logical time frame? [1:52:00, 1:52:01]: Well, um [1:52:02, 1:52:18]: There's a couple different ways you can do it. I think the best thing for me to do, and I and I don't know how this works uh with this with this uh council or how how this information could disperse. I would like to just do a couple kind of options like very [1:52:18, 1:52:23]: almost bullet options and descriptions for different ways that we can approach it and different kind of [1:52:24, 1:52:27]: price ranges to to better understand [1:52:28, 1:52:32]: The approach to the council thinks is best for Stockbridge. [1:52:32, 1:52:37]: And then I can do a detailed proposal for that. So so what that would look like is um [1:52:38, 1:52:45]: You know, we would we would always do all the front end kind of due diligence stuff and research, uh, but uh and identify. [1:52:45, 1:52:52]: uh parks that are in need, but do we want to do high level site plans for each of the parks that um [1:52:53, 1:52:58]: uh talk about how the program is on the park and in order that you have something [1:52:58, 1:53:01]: You can respond to to prioritize. [1:53:01, 1:53:03]: Uh а as I mentioned earlier. [1:53:04, 1:53:07]: How how extensive do you want to get with public involvement? [1:53:08, 1:53:09]: You can [1:53:09, 1:53:20]: We could do anything from simple stakeholder groups. This group could be the stakeholder group. Other could be city staffter stakeholder groups. Anything from that all the way to a full-blown [1:53:20, 1:53:22]: Public process so um [1:53:22, 1:53:29]: I think it's best if I just quickly lay out what those options are, price ranges for those, and we get some guidance. Uh [1:53:29, 1:53:40]: And then we can it within a couple of weeks definitely have a proposal together. Okay. Well that sounds good to me. We'll see what the council has to say. Mr. Blount, your hand Mr. Blount, your hand was up first. Go ahead, sir. [1:53:40, 1:54:00]: That's good. And wouldn't it be uh then wouldn't it be better to come back with the proposals versus uh uh versus voting on something right now that we don't know what uh those proposals are? Wouldn't it be advantageous for this council to first hear those proposals and decide which one we're gonna go to and then make the motions to move forward? [1:54:00, 1:54:09]: with those. And that could still include a comprehensive plan, but it will just show the objectives that they've already looked at and give us the amounts on different routes we could go. [1:54:09, 1:54:13]: So why would we uh vote on uh I mean, why would we vote on anything tonight? [1:54:14, 1:54:17]: All right, good point. Mr. Thomas, you have some comments, sir. [1:54:18, 1:54:26]: Yes, I was gonna ask uh for some closing statements from Mr. Night, but I but it my understanding though, what we're voting on is [1:54:27, 1:54:30]: Uh authorizing uh mis hubber, mister Bayes. [1:54:31, 1:54:32]: Uh to go back. [1:54:33, 1:54:37]: And to present that to us. I I don't know. [1:54:38, 1:54:44]: uh to what extent and the finance will be in that uh but mr night you probably could speak to that but [1:54:45, 1:54:47]: It it it would appear that [1:54:47, 1:54:49]: That the proposal [1:54:50, 1:54:52]: That was presented to us tonight. [1:54:52, 1:54:55]: That we're actually not voting on that proposal. [1:54:56, 1:54:57]: Um [1:54:57, 1:54:58]: Is that correct? [1:54:58, 1:54:59]: Yeah. [1:55:00, 1:55:01]: I'm sorry. I'll say yes, you're right. [1:55:02, 1:55:03]: So [1:55:03, 1:55:06]: I don't know what it would cost us to [1:55:06, 1:55:11]: direct uh TSW now to go back and to [1:55:12, 1:55:14]: Um, you know, to do another [1:55:15, 1:55:17]: To revamp the proposal. [1:55:17, 1:55:22]: Again, you know, just looking at this document, you know, I I see the amount that's here. [1:55:23, 1:55:25]: How much more would it take? [1:55:25, 1:55:26]: From this [1:55:27, 1:55:30]: Um, you know, to do what what the motion is entailing. [1:55:31, 1:55:33]: Mr. Night, could you sort of? [1:55:33, 1:55:40]: speak to some of that and I know it's time for us to close this subject out so we can sort of just move on. So I guess um [1:55:41, 1:55:44]: You can sort of have the last word, Mr. Knight, and we'll just sort of move on, but [1:55:44, 1:55:47]: I I think at the end of this we need to have um [1:55:48, 1:55:51]: T A W excuse me need some direction. [1:55:53, 1:55:58]: Yeah, I think it may be more of a T SW question in terms of how much more it might cost to [1:55:58, 1:56:03]: take a broader look at a comprehensive approach, but as I understood, the council wants to [1:56:04, 1:56:06]: Um, have a comprehensive [1:56:06, 1:56:08]: Um study done. [1:56:08, 1:56:10]: Of park improvements. [1:56:10, 1:56:14]: Um that would develop into uh uh [1:56:14, 1:56:17]: identification and listing and priorities. [1:56:17, 1:56:20]: of various park improvements. [1:56:20, 1:56:22]: That's what I understood the motion to be. [1:56:23, 1:56:26]: And then Brian outlined uh some different approaches that could be taken. [1:56:27, 1:56:28]: With respect to that. [1:56:29, 1:56:31]: Um which we can communicate to the council. [1:56:33, 1:56:35]: Sounds awkward to me, sir. [1:56:36, 1:56:38]: Uh any other comments before we take the vote? [1:56:39, 1:56:41]: Oh yes, m Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:56:41, 1:56:46]: One question. What was our recommendation to begin with with the parks? I mean. [1:56:47, 1:56:51]: W before now, before Castlewoman Barber [1:56:52, 1:56:55]: Stated to do the comprehensive park study. [1:56:56, 1:57:00]: What was our plan? Were we piecemealing it or? [1:57:00, 1:57:10]: Because I I think that we should start something that maybe a standard procedure, just like we did with the Master Trail Plan. Now we're doing a downtown study plan. [1:57:10, 1:57:15]: Um we're you know, we have our plans ready and available. [1:57:15, 1:57:16]: To connect. [1:57:16, 1:57:22]: everything that we want to do, maybe. I think that would be a good start and get public input from that. [1:57:23, 1:57:24]: Um [1:57:24, 1:57:26]: I think that would be really important. [1:57:27, 1:57:36]: So my question is what is it what was the plan for for this particular agenda item meeting tonight alone? Um now I've kind of gotten got l a little lost on that. [1:57:36, 1:57:41]: Um, I'm okay with doing the comprehensive plan. Do we have the funds for that? [1:57:41, 1:57:51]: Now that we've we're about to vote on that. Do we have money set aside for that? Yeah. I would say having the money and I will say it was going to be piecemealed at this time. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:57:51, 1:57:56]: Well what I was my answer to that was that we do have an agenda item. [1:57:56, 1:57:59]: Um Mr. Aaron. [1:57:59, 1:58:01]: And Miss Hubble had had laid it out. [1:58:01, 1:58:03]: Um I read through it. [1:58:04, 1:58:06]: Uh it was a plan. [1:58:06, 1:58:08]: to upgrade [1:58:08, 1:58:10]: The three parks. [1:58:10, 1:58:16]: Uh as I understand it, and again I I met with Mr. Aaron today and we went over Memorial Park. So [1:58:16, 1:58:21]: Uh to answer the question, Mrs. Gantt, that was the agenda item for tonight. [1:58:21, 1:58:23]: Uh and it would have [1:58:24, 1:58:28]: upgraded those three parks for as the [1:58:29, 1:58:32]: I I guess it was a a survey. [1:58:33, 1:58:36]: Uh it was a proposal. I don't think it was [1:58:36, 1:58:37]: direct in any [1:58:38, 1:58:39]: uh construction word [1:58:40, 1:58:43]: But just more of a steady. [1:58:43, 1:58:53]: Uh and I believe that's the way um Mrs. T SW and Mrs. Heather, I think that's the way it was sort of laid out. It was coming asking us to approve. [1:58:53, 1:58:55]: Um a proposal to [1:58:56, 1:58:57]: To steady [1:58:57, 1:59:00]: The three pog and together. [1:59:00, 1:59:07]: The information that sort of outlined in the agenda item. Is that correct, Mrs. Hubble? [1:59:08, 1:59:18]: Correct. So uh uh the the task was really to look at the three existing parks and to provide look at those three parks comprehensively in of themselves. [1:59:18, 1:59:23]: Um, so now the new direction is to do what we call [1:59:23, 1:59:25]: Um a new park system. [1:59:25, 1:59:32]: plan which would look out look at not only those but what's outside of those in the city and designate [1:59:32, 1:59:34]: additional parks and study [1:59:34, 1:59:35]: Potential. [1:59:35, 1:59:37]: uh for those in neighborhoods. [1:59:37, 1:59:38]: Um so [1:59:38, 1:59:41]: You know, it's a different take. Um and you know [1:59:42, 1:59:47]: as Brian laid out, uh, you know, there's lots of advantages for doing that. So just two different takes. [1:59:48, 1:59:49]: One was looking at [1:59:49, 1:59:54]: what we were going to do was looking at existing parks. Now we're going to look at not only existing parks, but [1:59:54, 1:59:55]: uh system [1:59:56, 2:00:01]: for the city throughout that might designate additional parks. Does that clarify? [2:00:02, 2:00:07]: Yes, that that makes sense. Thank you. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:00:10, 2:00:17]: Okay, so that um so that the records reflect the terminology that Ms. Hubble mentioned. [2:00:17, 2:00:20]: Instead of mentioning in the [2:00:20, 2:00:24]: Minutes, I like for it to reflect a part system plan. [2:00:25, 2:00:27]: As opposed to the comprehensive [2:00:27, 2:00:28]: Play in. [2:00:29, 2:00:31]: All the same scope. [2:00:31, 2:00:34]: But I just want to make sure that we use the term [2:00:34, 2:00:35]: Um [2:00:35, 2:00:37]: Parts system plan. [2:00:37, 2:00:40]: which will encompass everything that we are asking for. [2:00:41, 2:00:43]: All right, so you want the verb is changing the emotion. [2:00:43, 2:00:51]: It's asking. Okay. So on that note, does that recall do we don't have to do we have to do another uh second to that just with changing the verbiage? [2:00:51, 2:00:55]: Attorneys, is that uh or or we just change the verbs and we're still good to go. [2:00:58, 2:01:01]: You change the ver if you change the verb, it defines as long as the [2:01:01, 2:01:04]: Clerk is understanding what the actual request [2:01:05, 2:01:19]: Okay. All right. Miss Holiday, you are you straight with that? My only question to that is does the second portion that uh Mayor Pro Tam Alexander made remain where Memorial Park will remain the priority. [2:01:20, 2:01:22]: Yes. Thank you. [2:01:22, 2:01:27]: As long as Miss Barber's all right that she made the initial motion. You're good with that, Miss Barber? [2:01:29, 2:01:34]: So I don't think it's necessary for us to prioritize any of the parts right now. [2:01:35, 2:01:41]: they'll have to bring back to us um all of their suggestions and options. [2:01:41, 2:01:41]: Um [2:01:42, 2:01:43]: But [2:01:43, 2:01:45]: If everybody is okay with it, I'm okay with it. [2:01:46, 2:01:47]: We can prioritize. [2:01:48, 2:01:51]: Yeah, we need to prioritize because those residents are [2:01:51, 2:01:52]: Or or in a position where [2:01:53, 2:01:59]: They have been overlooked and every time they've been promised, it never came back. So I certainly want to assure them. [2:01:59, 2:02:03]: that we're not gonna overlook them. So and then priority is [2:02:03, 2:02:07]: Re the the the most serious thing that we talked about tonight is [2:02:07, 2:02:09]: Memorial Park is doesn't have enough parking. [2:02:10, 2:02:15]: And it is inaccessible. You wouldn't even know it. It was hidden in the middle of the woods. So that's the big deal. [2:02:15, 2:02:17]: Okay, I'm fine with it. [2:02:17, 2:02:19]: All right, sure. That's the only way I can vote for it myself. [2:02:20, 2:02:21]: Okay. [2:02:21, 2:02:23]: Okay, Miss Holliday, you you straight with the motion now? [2:02:24, 2:02:33]: Okay. All right. Good deal. If there's no other comments, uh motion has been made with second. So all that all that approved the motion, please uh indicate [2:02:35, 2:02:37]: Three okay. Any opposition? [2:02:40, 2:02:43]: Mr. Blount, are you opposed or are you abstaining? [2:02:44, 2:02:54]: No, I'm for it. I was just trying to understand the motion with the changes. That's all. I'm I'm for I'm for this master plan, but I'm just trying to understand I was trying to understand the motion. There was a lot thrown in there. [2:02:55, 2:02:55]: Well. [2:02:56, 2:03:09]: Okay. Well the bo the most the only is less only verbiage, only a little bit of verbiage in reference to the the actual net concept of the uh the plan is that's the only thing that's really changed. Everything else is remains the same as my understanding of the motion itself. [2:03:10, 2:03:11]: Okay. [2:03:12, 2:03:15]: Now are you good or you want this whole motion reread again? And we just voted. [2:03:17, 2:03:37]: Okay, all right. It's unanimous decision. Everybody voted. He's for the motion, so everybody's doing unanimous decision. So thank you. We'll leave it like it is. Uh next new business item: Council consideration to approve Rees Creek pedestrian bridge project. Change order number one, an amount of$55,845.50. Funding source is uh split. [2:03:36, 2:03:40]: Bloss and presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [2:03:40, 2:03:55]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. This is the uh final change order to uh close out this project. Once we started on the project, we ran into some uh parts of the trail that were cracked. We wanted to replace those and we also had some trees that were in danger of [2:03:55, 2:04:08]: of falling, they were rotten decay that could fall and damage the new bridges that we were installing. So we did a ch uh had the vendor go in and remove those trees and replace the cracked uh sidewalk panels on the trail. [2:04:09, 2:04:16]: Okay. Any comments, uh comments, uh questions for Mr. Uh Aaron's in reference to this. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:04:17, 2:04:23]: Okay, this agenda item says council consideration to approve Reese Creek pedestrian bridge. [2:04:24, 2:04:26]: It doesn't mention anything about trees and [2:04:27, 2:04:30]: Everything else Mr. Knight, I mean Mr. Hero was saying. [2:04:31, 2:04:31]: Well. [2:04:32, 2:04:33]: Looking at the right one. [2:04:35, 2:04:43]: Good, Miss Aaron. I mean that's what it says, it's what it says on my agenda as well. So Miss Aaron, uh you want or Miss Night, you want to address that? [2:04:44, 2:04:45]: It says [2:04:45, 2:04:46]: Yeah. [2:04:46, 2:04:47]: I'm sorry. [2:04:47, 2:04:48]: What does it say? [2:04:49, 2:04:51]: On the cover page it does say Reeves Creek. [2:04:52, 2:04:53]: Bridge replacement. [2:04:53, 2:05:01]: Project, but then the staff recommendation details the fact that there are removal of dead under unstable trees, graining of drainage ditch. [2:05:01, 2:05:05]: Demolition of disposal of crack concrete trail section. So the agenda on the [2:05:05, 2:05:07]: Agenda cover. [2:05:07, 2:05:08]: The item [2:05:08, 2:05:10]: Um is not. [2:05:10, 2:05:20]: It's not clear and it's not correct. It should be Reeves Creek Trail. But it's the overall bridge replacement project that's the primary. This is asking for a change order. [2:05:20, 2:05:22]: to that project. [2:05:22, 2:05:27]: for the specific items that are listed on the next page under the staff recommendation. [2:05:28, 2:05:32]: Thank you. Just um Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a message. [2:05:32, 2:05:34]: You'd like to do what maps I make? [2:05:34, 2:05:36]: Okay, go write it, please. [2:05:37, 2:05:39]: Um I move to approve the re creep. [2:05:41, 2:05:51]: Trail and bridge project change order number one in the amount of fifty-five thousand eight hundred forty-five dollars fifty cents. [2:05:51, 2:05:52]: One second. [2:05:52, 2:05:55]: Uh miss scant seconds that any further discussion. [2:05:56, 2:05:58]: If not all in favor, please indicate. [2:05:59, 2:06:01]: Okay, see Nancy Sizon. Fantastic. [2:06:01, 2:06:04]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [2:06:04, 2:06:24]: On to my comments. Uh my initial comments, ladies and gentlemen, actually deals with uh T Splus. We obviously agreed the for the IGA, and once again I'll I'll tell you that I will sign that IGA uh tomorrow afternoon and that'll go on to the uh to the county so it can distribute to the rest of the four cities. And I'd like for obviously the council knows this. I'll say [2:06:24, 2:06:39]: So the staff knows this, but what's very important about the T-SPLOST is the fact that citizens need to understand that they're gonna get more information between now and the actual vote on November second. It's extremely important that this passes. You know, Henry County is the second grow fastest growing county in the state of Georgia. [2:06:40, 2:07:00]: Henry County is also in the top 10 counties of growth and probably in the nation. I believe the top 10 in the nation. Of all the counties in the nation, we're growing and we're getting bigger, getting more diverse. So otherwise, increasing our trail network is extremely important. We have to do that. You know, if we want to stop the gridlock, we have to fund this and we have to help. [2:07:00, 2:07:20]: the process out and people are coming. People are coming to to Georgia because economic opportunities, coming for loved ones, coming for the warm weather, you know, coming for being to get into movie industry. Who knows? But but but but it's great. People are coming and they're coming right here to Henry County. You see, so we we I would hope folks citizens that you will vote for this. You'll get more information [2:07:20, 2:07:40]: As time goes on, obviously here in this venue and our meetings, we'll continue to talk about this positively and in a sense and it is something that we need to have a bright future with not only in the county, definitely here in the city, with the projects that we have identified. So I would hope that you will go ahead and approve this in November and this aspect as well. But it's extremely important. We are growing. [2:07:40, 2:07:52]: And we're not gonna be able to stop the growth. It's coming. People are coming. And they're coming because of the opportunities. And we and that's because we here on the South Side of Henry County Starbucks, what have it going on? That's why they're coming. Okay. So you need to understand that in that aspect. [2:07:53, 2:07:55]: The delta variant. [2:07:56, 2:08:01]: COVID nineteen, the Delta variant is is very active, folks. We're not out of this covet nineteen issue at all. [2:08:02, 2:08:05]: So you need it if you haven't been tested, get tested. [2:08:05, 2:08:13]: You know, and and once again, you can go to Heritage Senior Center to get tested Monday to Friday from 10 a.m. to three p.m. Saturdays, nine a.m. to twelve noon. [2:08:13, 2:08:24]: And to get tested COVID-19, call 800-847-4262 and make an appointment. Once again, 800-847-4262 to make an appointment. [2:08:25, 2:08:27]: COVID 19 is still here. [2:08:27, 2:08:42]: And the best thing to help protect yourself against this, you yourself, your loved ones, your family, us, people that you're around is is to get tested. And then once you get tested, you know, find out what whether you have it or not, and then go from there. But really you need to get the vaccination as well. [2:08:43, 2:08:45]: And if you call eight eight eight. [2:08:45, 2:09:05]: 457-0186. Once again, 888-457-0186. Anywhere from Monday to Friday, 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. or Saturday and Sunday, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. That is the that is actual the vaccination uh toll-free number for the state of Georgia. You call that number and they'll tell you exactly where you need to go to get a vaccination. [2:09:05, 2:09:10]: All right, so public health department at the statewide level, they helps operate that. [2:09:11, 2:09:18]: And they'll tell you where to go. And of course, when you when you when you call that, they're gonna talk about they wanna ask you about your race, age, gender, medical history. [2:09:19, 2:09:39]: whether or not you had COVID nineteen uh previously or not, any re recent type illnesses and your contact information. It's extremely important, folks. You know all you have to do if if if you don't really believe me, listen to the media. Right. Hopefully you'll believe the media, the the medical community, they're telling you that the data, the data is extremely, extremely important and and it's extremely [2:09:38, 2:09:49]: true. So we constantly need folks to make sure that they get tested and get your vaccination. It's very helpful. And it's for your loved ones, for your friends, for yourself, for your good health. [2:09:50, 2:09:52]: All right. You need to do that. Um [2:09:52, 2:09:55]: Miss Gantt, you had your hand up for some reason or something or? [2:09:56, 2:10:00]: I did. Tomorrow I have a council initiative at Clark Park. [2:10:00, 2:10:04]: Um, and we are giving out free vac COVID vaccinations as well. [2:10:05, 2:10:10]: Okay. Um it's um you know, right now there's been a debate on whether or not [2:10:10, 2:10:17]: People are gonna have to get a second, I mean a third shot, a booster shot due to the new Delta variant. [2:10:17, 2:10:20]: But um studies have found in FDA [2:10:20, 2:10:27]: As of today, that that's not necessary, but we're asking everyone let's let's get back to normal, and the only way to do that. [2:10:27, 2:10:28]: Is to [2:10:29, 2:10:29]: Um [2:10:30, 2:10:32]: Get the vaccine. [2:10:32, 2:10:44]: Um the event is the food truck event. There will be free ice cream as well as free COVID shots and food trucks and live music. So come on out, 530 to 830. Um [2:10:45, 2:10:46]: Tomorrow. Thanks. [2:10:47, 2:10:49]: Ms. Barber, you had your hand up, ma'am. Go ahead. [2:10:51, 2:10:55]: Yes, um on Saturday, um at the Merrill Manders Center. [2:10:56, 2:10:58]: Um there will be a blood drive. [2:10:58, 2:11:00]: From ten AM to four PM. [2:11:00, 2:11:04]: Um please, please come out and donate blood. [2:11:05, 2:11:07]: Right now I believe most hospitals only have [2:11:08, 2:11:10]: One or two days supply. [2:11:10, 2:11:14]: In which they really target to have at least five days of supply of blood. [2:11:14, 2:11:17]: There is a dire need for donations of blood. [2:11:17, 2:11:18]: Have a heart. [2:11:19, 2:11:20]: Please donate. [2:11:20, 2:11:21]: Thank you. [2:11:21, 2:11:23]: Okay. And on Friday [2:11:23, 2:11:43]: Okay. Main Street is having a mural project unveiling ceremony Friday, July 16th from six at 6 30 p.m. right across from the city, Stockbridge City Hall, at the corner of Harold Drive and North Henry Boulevard. It's right there to Stockbridge Elementary School. Okay, our first mural that we're gonna have in our downtown area. [2:11:43, 2:11:55]: 630. So come uh six thirty Friday. So come join us and uh see this wonderful uh painting the mural that's along the street there. And so it's just the beginning of uh further type of paintings and things we'll have in the downtown area. [2:11:56, 2:12:06]: All right. So thank you very much, uh Council, for those added uh city of uh council initiatives. And on that note, uh Council, we actually need a motion to go into executive session, please. [2:12:08, 2:12:14]: Mayor Ford, I move that we go into an executive session for real estate personnel and litigation matters. Thank you. Zero second. [2:12:16, 2:12:17]: Is there a second? [2:12:18, 2:12:22]: Ms. Mr. Blount seconds that. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [2:12:24, 2:12:38]: Thank you. Unanimous decision. Okay. Uh folks, we're going to Zegl session. We'll be back in a little while. Um, Ms. Holiday, uh, please work with Mr. Bond and and give everybody the entire council and the uh attorneys our entry uh [2:12:39, 2:12:43]: contact and that and uh so we can get a Zack session and folks I'll see you in about 10 minutes. All right. [2:12:44, 2:12:45]: Thank you. [2:12:49, 2:12:51]: Continue, okay. [2:12:54, 2:12:56]: Okay, I T support. [2:13:02, 2:13:03]: Quintens and [2:13:05, 2:13:06]: [7992.5, 7992.8]: [2:13:14, 2:13:17]: Okay, his holiday is in. Okay, so [2:13:17, 2:13:21]: We got Holliday, we got the attorneys, Member Potem Thomas. [2:13:21, 2:13:22]: And [2:13:22, 2:13:26]: And Barber and Bla okay we actually have a [2:13:27, 2:13:30]: All right. We actually have a quorum. [2:13:30, 2:13:35]: Uh so council, I need a motion to end the second session, please. So moved. [2:13:35, 2:13:36]: They're a second. [2:13:38, 2:13:39]: Is there a second? [2:13:41, 2:13:42]: I second. [2:13:42, 2:13:43]: Right. [2:13:43, 2:13:46]: Councilman Thomas seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [2:13:48, 2:13:53]: Okay, I got three three, uh Councilman Barber. [2:13:54, 2:13:54]: Yeah. [2:13:55, 2:13:56]: Vote yay, nay, abstain. [2:13:58, 2:13:58]: [8039.5, 8054.4]: All right. Well, I got three people so far that voted, so that that goes on. We have nothing. No, no, back up for it. Okay, I need a motion to reconvene our city council meeting, please. So move. They're second. I second. Thomas seconds that as well. All in favor, please indicate. [2:14:16, 2:14:17]: Okay, a three. [2:14:19, 2:14:28]: All right. All right. And uh three passes in this aspect. We have nothing to report from the executive session to the general public. [2:14:28, 2:14:33]: So on that note, uh then I'd like to have a motion to end our our council meeting. [2:14:33, 2:14:35]: Sumo. There's a second. [2:14:36, 2:14:37]: Thomas Seconds that as well. [2:14:37, 2:14:39]: All in favor, please indicate. [2:14:40, 2:14:41]: All right. Okay. [2:14:42, 2:14:43]: We are good night, everybody. [2:14:44, 2:14:45]: Good night. Good night.
  • 2021-07-06 · City Council · Transcript · Special Called Meeting

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    --- title: July 6 2021 Special Called Meeting date: 2021-07-06 source: 2021-07-06_July_6_2021_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:03, 0:00:03]: Okay. [0:00:10, 0:00:12]: is working at the end you start delivering. [0:00:13, 0:00:18]: Okay. I did start it. It's recording now. [0:00:19, 0:00:20]: Okay. [0:00:20, 0:00:23]: Um and let me more. There we go. [0:00:24, 0:00:26]: Wait a minute. Okay. [0:00:27, 0:00:29]: I'll just put public relations. [0:00:29, 0:00:38]: That's fine. They don't need no money. Main Form's gonna wanna be the co host when he comes in. You know how to make somebody calls? Yes, I do. Oh, he wants to be co [0:00:38, 0:00:40]: Okay. [0:00:40, 0:00:44]: So he wants okay. So basically, but I don't need to um [0:00:45, 0:00:48]: I'm gonna be streaming, but I guess I need to stay on as long as they're on. [0:00:50, 0:00:52]: Yeah,'cause you have the power to take it to Facebook. [0:00:54, 0:00:59]: Right. This is a setup, Robert. Really now you know you wrong for this. [0:00:59, 0:01:01]: So w so [0:01:01, 0:01:05]: So they're gonna have to contact me when they go ahead and executive session too. [0:01:05, 0:01:11]: Exactly. So who would is it Mayor Ford or Knighton? Who contacts you? Yes, sir. Mayor Ford or Vanessa, either one. [0:01:12, 0:01:16]: Okay. So one of them forward to contact you instead of me. [0:01:16, 0:01:21]: Okay. Okay. S what time do they come on? Because I don't see anybody coming in yet. [0:01:21, 0:01:23]: Oh, did you start a webinar? Yeah. [0:01:24, 0:01:35]: Okay, good. Uh yeah, they'll come in. Um eventually. It's a special call so they're not in a rush, I'm sure. Oh, okay, okay. So basically bottom right corner. [0:01:35, 0:01:51]: See more, go to Facebook. Yeah, I know, yeah, I do this all the time. Oh yeah, you know, I do this for my own. I can have meetings that I hold separate from you the council meetings for the city. Okay, dope. So you do, yeah. I just was concerned about the credentials, logging in. And then [0:01:51, 0:01:57]: Okay. And then I do this. So when they're when they go in executive session, Robert, you cut the meeting, you cut it off. [0:01:57, 0:02:01]: Yep, that I end the meeting because that she can't have to [0:02:01, 0:02:02]: Means at the same time. [0:02:03, 0:02:03]: Okay. [0:02:04, 0:02:12]: And then Mayor Ford or Vanessa will say, Henley, we're done. Please start it back up. Okay, and start it back up for And you d and you don't do executive session, they do. [0:02:13, 0:02:17]: No, I don't go to that. Okay, so you don't okay, so no need for me to try to get on that. [0:02:17, 0:02:24]: Right, right. Got it. Here's Mayor Ford now. Got it. All right. Thank you, Rob. And if if any kinks come up later, I'll call you. But I hopefully we're good. [0:02:24, 0:02:27]: Okay, sounds good. Thank you. Hey Mayor Fort. [0:02:27, 0:02:27]: You know? [0:02:28, 0:02:32]: Hey sir, Robert is on vacation, so he asked me to take over tonight. [0:02:32, 0:02:35]: Oh, okay. I didn't realize that. [0:02:35, 0:02:38]: Yeah, so he did tell me you would want to be co-host. That's correct. [0:02:39, 0:02:40]: All right. He already told me. [0:02:40, 0:02:41]: Okay, Mr. Tier. [0:02:42, 0:02:50]: Good deal. So look, you're all around uh qualified, educated woman there. Uh you got it you get. [0:02:50, 0:02:54]: Yeah. That's what you do when you delta. [0:02:56, 0:02:59]: Excuse me. I am so sorry. I'm so sorry. [0:03:00, 0:03:01]: All right. Well good deal. [0:03:01, 0:03:11]: Good. So whenever you let me know, I know it's early now, but I'm just gonna take your cues when you tell me um we can go over to Facebook or do you want me to just do it right at six? [0:03:11, 0:03:23]: Uh you can do about a right of six would be good on Facebook. Okay. And I will alert you before say Mayor Ford, I'm gonna take it to Facebook unless you object. Okay, okay Okay. And then Robert told me uh sir? [0:03:23, 0:03:26]: No, I said that'd be fine, let me know and we'll we'll I'll give you a thumbs up, I'm pretty sure. [0:03:27, 0:03:41]: Okay. And then he'll also, you'll give me thumbs up when you're ready. Um, once they kind of say we're now concluding going executive session and I will cut it off. And then Robert said you need to, you will contact me when you're ready to come out of executive session, correct? Correct. [0:03:41, 0:03:43]: Okay, you have my number. [0:03:43, 0:03:55]: Yes, I have your number. And which number you want me to use? I have several numbers for you. Which one do you want me to use? Use the six use my uh city cell six seven eight seven oh two seventy-four sixty. Okay, let's see here. [0:03:56, 0:03:58]: Okay forward. [0:04:05, 0:04:18]: Yeah, I got 702-7460 says uh I got here for uh mobile. Yeah, that's it. So call me call me on that when you're ready. But that won't be till later tonight. Um but yeah, but do you let me know when you're ready to come out of executive session and I will cut it on. [0:04:18, 0:04:23]: Okay, good deal. Thank you. I'll just get you all and you all will simply do use the same link. [0:04:23, 0:04:24]: Right, correct. [0:04:25, 0:04:34]: Got it. But as far as executive session, Robert said you or Vanessa handles that. That's correct. I won't be in executive session. I'll just set it when you tell me the meeting has concluded. Okay. Appreciate it. [0:04:34, 0:04:39]: Okay. All righty. So I'm gonna um cut my camera off. Good. [0:04:40, 0:04:40]: Alan is there. [0:04:42, 0:04:44]: Okay, we have someone on. [0:04:45, 0:04:47]: As well, because you know it is a public meeting. [0:04:47, 0:04:48]: Right, okay, that's fine. [0:04:49, 0:04:52]: All right. And I'm here if you need me, sir. At this point, I'm gonna cut my camera off. [0:04:52, 0:04:56]: Good deal. Thank you very much. Have a great meeting. You too now. Thank you. Appreciate it. [0:05:34, 0:05:37]: Good evening, everybody. Good evening to you as well, Councilwoman Barber. [0:05:40, 0:05:41]: Good evening. [0:05:42, 0:05:46]: That's just how you doing, sir? All right. I'm doing just fine, sir. All right, good deal. [0:06:42, 0:06:44]: Hey Desus, uh you have a hot mic, sir. [0:07:54, 0:07:56]: Hello everyone. [0:07:56, 0:07:57]: How are you? [0:07:58, 0:07:59]: Hey there, Mayor Pro Tam. [0:08:00, 0:08:01]: Good to see you. Good. [0:11:11, 0:11:14]: How you doing, John? And uh [0:11:15, 0:11:17]: Mr. Knighton and Ms. Gantt, good evening to you. [0:11:18, 0:11:20]: Good evening, uh Mayor, Council. [0:11:27, 0:11:29]: Hello. All righty. [0:11:42, 0:11:42]: Yeah. [0:11:49, 0:11:50]: You all right there, Miss Knighton? [0:11:51, 0:11:54]: Been working out too hard, too tough there? Got some Yeah, think so. [0:11:55, 0:11:55]: Okay. [0:11:56, 0:12:02]: You're not as young as you used to be now. You gotta take those workouts. You gotta take the workouts a little easier, right? And build it up. [0:12:05, 0:12:14]: All right. Evening, Mr. Blount. How you doing, sir? [0:12:15, 0:12:15]: Yeah. [0:12:16, 0:12:19]: [742.4, 743.9]: Oh [0:13:06, 0:13:06]: Good evening. [0:13:08, 0:13:14]: Evening Vanessa. Mr. Mike. And yeah, Mr. Might. And what about our attorneys now? It's uh [0:13:14, 0:13:17]: I just I got a message that they received the [0:13:19, 0:13:19]: They did. [0:13:20, 0:13:22]: And receive the panel invite, so let me [0:13:23, 0:13:27]: See where they are. I just corresponded with them in the last ten minutes. [0:13:28, 0:13:28]: Okay. [0:13:35, 0:13:38]: And Mr. Thomas is still missing for right now as well. [0:13:40, 0:13:41]: [887.7, 890.4]: Mayor, are you ready for me to stream the meeting to Facebook? [0:14:52, 0:14:57]: Yes, uh go ahead and start that. Uh start that please. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. [0:15:26, 0:15:27]: Okay. [0:15:44, 0:15:45]: [965.6, 966.1]: [0:16:11, 0:16:15]: Mr. Blount, could you give us invocation invocation tonight, sir? [0:16:24, 0:16:29]: Dear Heavenly and Gracious Father, we first come to you, thank you, Lord, for your grace and we thank you for your mercy. [0:16:29, 0:16:34]: We ask heavenly gracious father that you would empower us, Heavenly Father, give us the mind of wisdom. [0:16:35, 0:16:53]: To do the best that we can do, Heavenly Father, in your sight first, God, that we will move in a way, Heavenly Father, that's pleasing to you and that will benefit the city of Stockbridge. We thank you, Lord, for giving us this opportunity. We thank you for choosing us as the leaders right now, Heavenly Father, to move this city forward. We ask that you will continue to guide us, continue to keep us. [0:16:53, 0:16:59]: Continue to protect us, Heavenly Father. Continue to cover this city as you cover this county, as you cover this state, and as you cover this country. [0:17:00, 0:17:18]: Heavenly Father, you are the God of the beginnings and ends. Heavenly Father, there's nothing that happens besides you, Heavenly Father. We thank you, Lord, for this opportunity. We ask Heavenly Father that you would guide each and every each and every direction tonight and each and every each and every thought. Heavenly Father, and that you will continue to be the head of each and every one of our lives. It's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:17:19, 0:17:19]: Amen. [0:17:20, 0:17:23]: All right, council, let's stand for the uh pledge of allegiance, please. [0:17:26, 0:17:30]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. [0:17:30, 0:17:34]: And two republic for which it stands, one nation. [0:17:34, 0:17:39]: Under God, indivisible, the liberty just wall. [0:17:41, 0:17:41]: Yeah. [0:17:42, 0:17:43]: Alrighty. [0:17:44, 0:17:47]: Thank you. Madam Clerk, I need a roll call, please. [0:17:50, 0:17:51]: They are four. [0:17:51, 0:17:51]: Present. [0:17:52, 0:17:53]: May approach him Alexander. [0:17:53, 0:17:54]: President. [0:17:54, 0:17:55]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:17:56, 0:17:56]: Present. [0:17:57, 0:17:58]: Council Member Blind. [0:17:58, 0:17:59]: Present. [0:17:59, 0:18:00]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:18:01, 0:18:01]: Present. [0:18:02, 0:18:03]: Councilman Thomas. [0:18:03, 0:18:04]: President [0:18:05, 0:18:06]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:18:06, 0:18:08]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate it. [0:18:08, 0:18:10]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:18:11, 0:18:13]: So okay, is there a second? [0:18:15, 0:18:19]: I thank you. Miss Barber raised her hand. She's got the second tier. All in favor, please indicate. [0:18:21, 0:18:25]: Okay, so unanimous decision, all right, uh in that aspect. [0:18:25, 0:18:26]: Maybe uh [0:18:27, 0:18:30]: discussion while we have uh actual [0:18:30, 0:18:35]: discussion and um we have two splots primaries on our ballot or agenda tonight. [0:18:36, 0:18:39]: And so for council consideration to approve the T S PLOS list. [0:18:40, 0:18:41]: Mr. Knighton, please. [0:18:44, 0:18:50]: Thank you, Mayor and Council, and uh welcome to everyone this evening as well as uh citizens who are [0:18:50, 0:18:56]: are viewing uh online uh via zoom and facebook. We appreciate you being here this evening. [0:18:56, 0:18:59]: Uh at a previous uh regularly scheduled [0:19:00, 0:19:02]: Um work session meeting. [0:19:02, 0:19:21]: We had a discussion regarding T Splots, transportation special purpose local option sales tax. And we discussed the project list as it existed. We also discussed the Henry County list and proportionments. [0:19:22, 0:19:25]: Uh, as relayed at a previous Henry County. [0:19:25, 0:19:29]: a meeting Henry County is going to meet uh tomorrow as well. [0:19:29, 0:19:33]: And consider an overall list and also as I understand it consider [0:19:34, 0:19:39]: uh an intergovernmental agreement in IGA as it relates to T Splash, which is common. [0:19:39, 0:19:42]: uh for county and cities as they work through [0:19:42, 0:19:44]: uh these matters. [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: And so this evening [0:19:46, 0:19:55]: I will uh recap a couple of things from the last meeting and then uh provide you with uh some proposals for your consideration. [0:19:55, 0:20:01]: as it relates to the uh transportation special purpose local option sales tax. [0:20:01, 0:20:04]: And I will share my screen here. [0:20:22, 0:20:23]: All right, hopefully [0:20:23, 0:20:26]: Hopefully everyone can see that okay. We can see it, sir. [0:20:26, 0:20:35]: All right. There you go. We'll go we'll go through this. Uh as always, uh we begin with the mission the vision statement and mission statements which are integral to [0:20:36, 0:20:41]: Uh, decision making processes uh here for the city of Stockbridge to be the most progressive business. [0:20:42, 0:20:43]: And family oriented. [0:20:44, 0:20:50]: Community in Metro Atlanta with a focus on enhanced quality of life initiatives, which promotes a sustainable live, work, play environment. [0:20:51, 0:20:55]: And as you'll see as we go through the uh proposed T Splash list. [0:20:56, 0:21:00]: That uh many, if not all, of these projects attempt to meet that vision statement. [0:21:01, 0:21:07]: Obviously um the transportation splosed, uh five years blossomed expected to generate. [0:21:08, 0:21:11]: Right at two hundred and forty five milyen dollars. [0:21:11, 0:21:15]: Uh the county has had some previous the discussion about city contribution. [0:21:16, 0:21:18]: Uncertain projects in the city of Stockbridge. [0:21:19, 0:21:20]: Share [0:21:21, 0:21:23]: Із три мільян, пропозит три мільян. [0:21:23, 0:21:25]: Five hundred and forty two thousand. [0:21:26, 0:21:28]: Six hundred and twenty five. [0:21:28, 0:21:29]: Downwards. [0:21:30, 0:21:32]: Uh, that represents the largest city share. [0:21:33, 0:21:36]: Um just over thirty point five million dollars. [0:21:38, 0:21:44]: A couple of the uh joint projects that had been uh provided by the county that the county was looking [0:21:45, 0:21:53]: To seek some support from the City of Stockbridge, Rock Quarry Road widening from Hudson Bridge to Hospital Drive, Estate Route 138. [0:21:53, 0:21:56]: Consisting of uh just under two and a half miles. [0:21:57, 0:22:00]: Total project twenty six point six miljon dollars. [0:22:01, 0:22:03]: And on that proportional share there. [0:22:04, 0:22:05]: Obviously we discussed [0:22:06, 0:22:11]: uh the lane mileage and the uh fairly large proportional share as it relates to stock bridges overall. [0:22:12, 0:22:13]: Allocation. [0:22:13, 0:22:19]: Um and what you'll hear in the the proposed project list is proposing [0:22:19, 0:22:22]: City funding at four miljon dollars. [0:22:24, 0:22:40]: The next project was Hudson Bridge Road, Eagles Landing Parkway resurfacing from Willis Drive to State Route 442, and that's a resurfacing project. The Stockbridge share in terms of lane miles,$489,982. [0:22:41, 0:22:43]: That will be proposed at that funding. [0:22:43, 0:22:44]: Um [0:22:45, 0:22:45]: Threshold. [0:22:46, 0:22:47]: A four hundred and eighty nine. [0:22:48, 0:22:49]: dollars and [0:22:49, 0:22:52]: Four hundred and eighty nine thousand nine hundred and eighty two. [0:22:53, 0:22:54]: Dollars. [0:22:56, 0:23:04]: Here's a um just a schematic map generally of our bicycle pedestrian and trail plan with a number of projects on there. [0:23:04, 0:23:07]: Obviously, one of the important features of any um [0:23:08, 0:23:13]: City is to provide connectivity to its parks, its civic spaces, obviously with the amphitheater moving forward. [0:23:14, 0:23:17]: That's something that we strongly want to uh consider. [0:23:17, 0:23:20]: Um here in the city of Stockbridge. [0:23:24, 0:23:29]: This is the project list that you've seen previously. [0:23:30, 0:23:32]: Um and you saw in the last meeting. [0:23:33, 0:23:40]: At 4.5 million Wilson Avenue, Nolan Childs, Wilson Street, Walker Street, Welch, Jennings Way, 2nd, First, High, Church Street, and Caroline Lane. [0:23:41, 0:23:42]: In terms of [0:23:43, 0:23:45]: Urban gutter sidewalks and widening. [0:23:45, 0:23:52]: Davison Parkway at 3.6 million, resurfacing and sidewalks, Old Atlanta Road, resurfacing in sidewalks at 2.5. [0:23:53, 0:23:55]: Tie street sidewalks at two point two. [0:23:56, 0:24:00]: Davis Road Kerb and Gutter sidewalks at four point three five. [0:24:00, 0:24:03]: And then Reeves Creek Trail Extension at 2.8. [0:24:03, 0:24:07]: breast creek at one point or excuse me two point four million [0:24:07, 0:24:10]: MLK C M L K Senior Heritage Trail. [0:24:11, 0:24:16]: Um a couple of projects there, four hundred and twenty-five thousand, three hundred and fifty-five thousand. [0:24:16, 0:24:17]: And then continuation. [0:24:18, 0:24:22]: at six hundred and twenty five thousand. Trailhead location, five hundred thousand. [0:24:23, 0:24:26]: Country Club Drive, traffic and safety improvements at one million. [0:24:27, 0:24:27]: Berk Street. [0:24:28, 0:24:34]: Sidewalks, pedestrian improvements, Love Street sidewalks, pedestrian improvements, five hundred thousand each, and then Walt Stevens Road Trail. [0:24:35, 0:24:37]: One point seven five miles at three. [0:24:37, 0:24:39]: million dollars for a total. [0:24:39, 0:24:42]: twenty nine milyen two hundred and fifty five thousand dollars. [0:24:43, 0:24:51]: Now, based on last um week's discussion uh with the council, uh it seemed to be a strong consideration uh for [0:24:52, 0:24:59]: Uh working on some joint projects. And therefore, taking a look at the total allocation of thirty point five million dollars, it was necessary. [0:25:00, 0:25:02]: А то make some adjustments. [0:25:02, 0:25:04]: With respect to [0:25:04, 0:25:06]: this uh project list. [0:25:06, 0:25:08]: And I want to I want to emphasize [0:25:09, 0:25:13]: Make some adjustments in terms of the T-SPLOST numbers. [0:25:14, 0:25:18]: But not make adjustments in terms of the project totality. [0:25:19, 0:25:21]: That's needed to complete. [0:25:21, 0:25:23]: The projects. [0:25:23, 0:25:27]: And so with that, um, through um [0:25:30, 0:25:31]: Let's see here. [0:25:37, 0:25:40]: Oh, wait a minute here. Excuse me just a moment. Something [0:25:40, 0:25:41]: Got held up here. [0:25:49, 0:25:49]: Yeah. [0:25:52, 0:25:54]: Well, let's try this. [0:25:58, 0:26:03]: All right, excuse me just a moment. Something got hung up there. Let's do this. [0:26:05, 0:26:07]: All right, there we go. Everybody can see that okay. [0:26:08, 0:26:09]: Right. It's good. All right. [0:26:09, 0:26:16]: Okay, this is a proposed new list, and I want to emphasize the items in red, those items. [0:26:17, 0:26:32]: in red uh have been reduced based on consideration of um the projects themselves, in particular Davison Parkway and Old Atlanta Road, with respect to what it the expectations are for resurfacing and sidewalks. [0:26:33, 0:26:36]: Um for those particular projects we think we can [0:26:36, 0:26:40]: uh make those projects work with those allocations. [0:26:40, 0:26:42]: As well as Davis Road on Curb and Gutter. [0:26:43, 0:26:44]: And then the first one. [0:26:45, 0:26:48]: Wilson Avenue, Nolan Street, Child Street, Wilson, and so forth. [0:26:49, 0:26:51]: We want to make that clear along with Davis Rowe. [0:26:52, 0:26:54]: Those have been reduced. [0:26:55, 0:27:01]: Um from four point five uh to two point five and I believe three point eight to two point five on Davis. [0:27:01, 0:27:10]: However, because those projects involve a curb and gutter and some stormwater improvements to improve drainage in those situations. [0:27:11, 0:27:13]: We want to propose using the balance of that. [0:27:14, 0:27:19]: Um of the American Rescue Plan funds. As you know, those funds have been allocated [0:27:20, 0:27:21]: by the federal government. [0:27:21, 0:27:32]: And they can be used for sewer water, stormwater infrastructure. And so in order to support those projects in totality as they were proposed previously. [0:27:33, 0:27:37]: We'd be asking council to use the the or to supplement the balance of that. [0:27:38, 0:27:44]: With um those um American rescue plan funds or those projects can be [0:27:44, 0:27:45]: Completed. [0:27:45, 0:27:49]: In totality as they were estimated and proposed previously. [0:27:50, 0:27:53]: The rest of the projects as you can see there. [0:27:54, 0:27:59]: um remain the same in terms of the previous allocation from the previous meeting. [0:28:00, 0:28:02]: So just wanted to make that clear. [0:28:02, 0:28:04]: On the um first item. [0:28:05, 0:28:07]: Wilson Avenue, Nolan Street, the number of streets there. [0:28:08, 0:28:09]: Two point five. [0:28:10, 0:28:12]: There was a reduction from the last time. [0:28:13, 0:28:13]: But [0:28:14, 0:28:20]: asking or or recommending certainly that the ARP funds be used to help support that project in its totality. [0:28:21, 0:28:26]: for those stormwater curb and gutter items as well as the Davis Road. [0:28:27, 0:28:30]: project. And again, the rest of the items remain [0:28:30, 0:28:33]: The same as previous for a total of [0:28:34, 0:28:36]: Twenty two million three hundred and five. [0:28:36, 0:28:37]: thousand dollars. [0:28:38, 0:28:41]: Okay, remember of course the total allocation is thirty point five. [0:28:41, 0:28:42]: Which is expected. [0:28:45, 0:28:49]: All right, here are the transportation splots, the joint and new projects. [0:28:50, 0:28:55]: Proposed Rock Quarry Road widening at four million dollars, Rock Quarry Road extension. [0:28:55, 0:28:57]: At two million dollars. [0:28:57, 0:29:03]: Downtown pedestrian bridge, which has been a part of the Renaissance Strategic Visiting Plan, RSVP. [0:29:04, 0:29:06]: At eight hundred thousand dollars. [0:29:06, 0:29:13]: Campground Road Sidewalks, that's a relatively new road. It does not have sidewalks there, five hundred thousand. [0:29:13, 0:29:19]: Peach Drive sidewalks at 300,000. And then as I mentioned previously, the Hudson Bridge. [0:29:19, 0:29:21]: Um Eagles Landing Parkway resurfaced. [0:29:22, 0:29:26]: At four hundred and eighty nine thousand nine hundred and eighty two dollars, which would be [0:29:27, 0:29:29]: the equivalent city of Stockbury share. [0:29:34, 0:29:36]: All right, so the total project funding. [0:29:36, 0:29:40]: Which is twenty two thousand three hundred and five thousand dollars. Those were the base projects. [0:29:41, 0:29:43]: The revised list of base projects [0:29:44, 0:29:51]: And then the total joint new pro joint um projects and new project allocations would total eight million [0:29:51, 0:29:55]: Eighty nine thousand nine hundred and eighty two dollars for a grand total. [0:29:56, 0:29:58]: Of thirty milyen. [0:29:58, 0:30:00]: Three hundred and ninety four thousand [0:30:00, 0:30:02]: Nine hundred and eighty two dollars. [0:30:03, 0:30:07]: And of course, remember the expected stock bridge allocation is thirty thousand. [0:30:07, 0:30:10]: Five hundred forty two dollars. [0:30:11, 0:30:13]: thirty thousand five hundred and forty two thousand dollars. [0:30:15, 0:30:16]: One more time. [0:30:17, 0:30:18]: Thirty million. [0:30:18, 0:30:20]: Five hundred and forty two thousand. [0:30:20, 0:30:22]: Six hundred and twenty five dollars. [0:30:23, 0:30:23]: Okay. [0:30:24, 0:30:24]: All right. [0:30:26, 0:30:31]: I will hold there for questions. I do want to go back one more time if I can, Mayor. [0:30:31, 0:30:32]: Sure, go ahead, sir. [0:30:32, 0:30:36]: to the proposed project list um as you see before [0:30:36, 0:30:38]: Everything um that's listed. [0:30:39, 0:30:40]: Um [0:30:42, 0:30:47]: The everything that you see as listed um in in the black. [0:30:47, 0:30:48]: But [0:30:49, 0:30:51]: Is that's what was pr previously proposed. [0:30:51, 0:30:55]: Um the items listed in red uh were reduced. [0:30:56, 0:31:02]: The two items related, number one item Wilson Avenue that starts with Williston, Dolan, and Giles, as well as Davis Road. [0:31:03, 0:31:06]: Again, we're proposing those reductions on the T splas list. [0:31:07, 0:31:10]: But asking that those be supplemented with the American rescue plan funds. [0:31:10, 0:31:13]: To provide the totality of those projects as previously. [0:31:14, 0:31:14]: Listed. [0:31:16, 0:31:34]: I'll be glad to answer any questions, uh, receive any comments, of course. Um there. Yeah, yeah. First of all, I'd like to say that I appreciate the briefing and I think the allocation of using American Rescue Plan dollars is a great concept. I didn't add it up. I'm assuming that equals close to nine million dollars when you add up all those red numbers there, sir. [0:31:35, 0:31:38]: No sir, no sir. Those added up those [0:31:39, 0:31:44]: The the red numbers, let me go back here. I'll share again. I want to make I'll make sure that's clear. [0:31:47, 0:31:59]: Um what I understand we're supposed to get nine million. I was just kind of wondering whether or not that was in total nine million that we're utilized here would be something else as a shortfall on that list. Right. Let me I'm sorry. [0:31:59, 0:32:01]: No, I just wanted to see what the total was'cause I didn't add it up. [0:32:02, 0:32:02]: Oh, okay. [0:32:12, 0:32:18]: The total there, um, and I don't I don't know if we should look at it that way. [0:32:18, 0:32:18]: Okay. [0:32:19, 0:32:20]: The [0:32:20, 0:32:26]: Total that we'll be receiving from American Rescue Plan Fund will be in the likely range of nine to ten million dollars. [0:32:26, 0:32:27]: Right. [0:32:27, 0:32:28]: In totality. [0:32:29, 0:32:33]: What I am mentioning is, for instance, if you look at the previous list. [0:32:33, 0:32:38]: The top item, Wilson Avenue, Nolan, Childs at 4.5 million dollars. Okay. [0:32:38, 0:32:47]: That's been reduced on this list for$2.5 billion. Okay. What I'm recommending and suggesting is that the ARP funds. [0:32:47, 0:32:51]: Ту мільйон долар бизтомент. [0:32:51, 0:32:52]: That total project. [0:32:53, 0:32:54]: Okay. [0:32:54, 0:32:57]: As well as the same thing with the Davis Road. [0:32:57, 0:32:58]: project itself. [0:33:00, 0:33:04]: And so although they've been reduced on the T Sploss list, the total project. [0:33:05, 0:33:06]: Estimated cost. [0:33:07, 0:33:13]: along with the balance a using ARP funds would maintain the total project estimation as you've seen before. [0:33:15, 0:33:35]: So otherwise, even though we we can use the American Rescue Plan dollars for these this projects, you know what the allocation that the city gets, roughly nine, maybe maybe close to 10 million, there'll still be some left over for some other projects. Yes, others, other sewer water, stormwater projects. That is correct. Yes. All right, thank you. I saw Mr. Blount's hand up first. Go ahead, please. [0:33:35, 0:33:35]: Please. [0:33:40, 0:33:57]: Mr. Blount, there you go. Can you hear me? Yeah, go ahead, please. Thank you, Mayor. Uh Mr. Knighton, on these when you when you look at these streets uh on the list, how does these streets differ from the LMAG list that 20? [0:33:57, 0:34:15]: 20 and 21 and that shows the 20, show the 20, 21, and showing the 22 uh list for the roads that are gonna be um that that are gonna be paid for to be redone. How does how does this get picked that differs from that? First of all, the first question. [0:34:16, 0:34:23]: The the um L Meg list is done every year as you know, and it's done through a rating system to determine which roads. [0:34:24, 0:34:41]: um should be pulled forward to be a part of that particular year's list. So that's done on a rating system, essentially on a rotating basis. Each year there are gonna be a set number of roads that are going to be a part of that. And that's again based on the rating system for that particular list. Can you explain the rating system, please? [0:34:42, 0:34:46]: Sure, sure. We have a consultant that takes a look at each particular road. [0:34:47, 0:34:53]: Um and looks at the essentially they they observe the roads, they go out and look at the wear and tear of the roads, a's of the roads, etcetera. [0:34:54, 0:34:59]: To determine which roads would be on the list based on the number of lane miles that we provide per year. [0:34:59, 0:35:03]: And I would ask Mr. Aaron if there's something else beyond that or that you can add, please feel free to do so. [0:35:07, 0:35:14]: Yes, sir. Um in two thousand and nineteen we had our engineers come in and do a survey of all the roads within the city. [0:35:14, 0:35:25]: And they rated those roles based on the base of the road, whether there was cracking in the road, whether there was any other defects with the ropes, and those rolls were graded. [0:35:26, 0:35:32]: And we're using that list to generate a a resurfacing list. Each role received a score. [0:35:32, 0:35:38]: And based on the score, that prioritizes the role for the ALMEG, and that's how we generate the list. [0:35:39, 0:35:42]: Okay, then the second question would be [0:35:42, 0:35:51]: Because you all do an examination of the roads and it's not about aesthetics, it's about the condition, actually condition of the road. Is that correct, Mr. Aaron? [0:35:51, 0:35:52]: Yes, sir. [0:35:53, 0:35:56]: And so when we look at this list, this T-SPLOST list. [0:35:57, 0:36:03]: How did it come about as far as the condition of the world versus just the aesthetics of the road? [0:36:04, 0:36:10]: Is the conditions of the road on this T spots list greater than other roads that have been looked at? [0:36:13, 0:36:17]: I think these roles on the T S PLOS list were generated. [0:36:17, 0:36:32]: by their ability to improve transportation within the city. And also major roads like Eagles Landing Parkway and Hudson Bridge Parkway, if park Hudson Bridge Drive, if the city some of those projects tried to do on their own. [0:36:32, 0:36:38]: the cost would be astronomical and it would exceed the annual budget we have for the ALME. [0:36:38, 0:36:44]: So these were more transportation improvements where the ALMEG is more of functional. [0:36:46, 0:36:51]: Yeah, but the re and the reason I'm asking that is because I'm seeing a lot of roads. [0:36:52, 0:37:00]: that are in communities, but are those roles in as bad as conditions as in the other communities? I'm looking at the Nolan, I'm looking at the [0:37:00, 0:37:05]: the Tide Street, I'm looking at Child's. I'm looking, I'm I'm just saying I'm looking at a lot of roles in a certain area. [0:37:06, 0:37:10]: And I'm wondering because of how we determine what roles need to be [0:37:10, 0:37:11]: Um [0:37:12, 0:37:13]: Ne needs attention to them. [0:37:14, 0:37:29]: How do we come about this list? And this list has nothing to do with transportation. I think child still is is a dead end street anyway or something like that. So that has nothing to do with transportation. I'm looking at how did this list come about versus the other roads and other communities? [0:37:30, 0:37:50]: That need that are these roads in worst condition, or are they on the top of the list as conditioned roads that we have in other communities? We have two really big communities and we have other communities with roads. And I know that we're not dealing with a status, we're dealing with conditions. Are the conditions of these roads? [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: on the top of the list. [0:37:52, 0:37:55]: That would supersede the conditions of other roads and other communities. [0:37:56, 0:38:02]: Let me let me answer it this way. The what you're looking at here, a couple of these projects, and many of the projects actually. [0:38:03, 0:38:06]: are related to connectivity and sidewalks. [0:38:06, 0:38:10]: One of things and the great things that we do have in s in Stockbridge is [0:38:10, 0:38:15]: All of the civic projects that have been built and are being built, including the amphitheater. [0:38:16, 0:38:17]: Including um [0:38:18, 0:38:20]: The Merrill Mandos Conference Center, Clark Park. [0:38:20, 0:38:24]: including the tag office and and and the library. [0:38:24, 0:38:26]: Gardener Park, Memorial Park. [0:38:27, 0:38:35]: And you've got all of these different civic projects and spaces in a relatively tight space of about probably about a mile and a half or so. [0:38:35, 0:38:37]: By walking, you could probably get to all of those. [0:38:38, 0:38:41]: And one of the things that's important, um [0:38:41, 0:38:44]: Well, for any city, and I think for Stockbridge. [0:38:44, 0:38:49]: Which um propelled some of these projects to be proposed. [0:38:49, 0:38:51]: Із то комплит коннекtivity. [0:38:51, 0:38:56]: throughout the city. Um some of the areas there that are mentioned do not have sidewalks. [0:38:56, 0:38:58]: Some have uh somewhat uh [0:38:58, 0:39:08]: um narrow streets and in order to facilitate facilitate pedestrian traffic and connectivity accord again according to those spaces. [0:39:08, 0:39:10]: These projects were proposed. [0:39:11, 0:39:18]: Um, and so the sidewalk projects that you see uh mainly are to provide that level of connectivity to existing. [0:39:19, 0:39:24]: um residential areas and also to again our civic spaces. [0:39:25, 0:39:30]: Uh Mr. Knighton, but you didn't answer the question. I'm not talking about specifically sidewalks. [0:39:31, 0:39:33]: We got we got we have some resurfacing going on. [0:39:34, 0:39:37]: And that deals with conditions, not aesthetics. [0:39:37, 0:39:52]: And so I'm asking about the resurfacing of those streets. Or to resurface these streets, are they in worse condition than other streets in the community since we've done an evaluation of all the streets in the city of Stockbridge? That's my question. [0:39:52, 0:39:55]: So we're talking about Davidson Parkway in Old Atlanta Road. [0:39:56, 0:40:00]: Well must Mr. Knight, look at the list. There's more on there than Davis and Parkway. [0:40:01, 0:40:07]: We're we're we're talking about many streets back through the Tide Street area now and and I'm fine with whatever streets need to be done. [0:40:08, 0:40:10]: But I'm asking the question is. [0:40:11, 0:40:31]: And if you can't answer, Mr. Knight and Mr. Aaron answered, because I need to know if those streets that are going to on that list to be resurfaced, or these streets that are just brought up, or these streets that are being resurfaced on top of the on the top of the list since we've done the evaluation, or streets that need to be resurfaced first, if it was on the L May. [0:40:31, 0:40:32]: Begless. [0:40:32, 0:40:33]: Well [0:40:34, 0:40:54]: One of the things is in the Tah Street, Nolan Street area, that's a combination project. One of the issues, main issues we have in that area is flooding during rain, during periods of rain. So this is a combination of stormwater and resurfacing project. When you go in and make the stormwater repairs, you're going to have to resurface the road because you're going to be cutting. [0:40:53, 0:40:55]: Cutting the road and you're gonna be damaging [0:40:55, 0:41:13]: the uh pavement. So the majority of that was to do a a stormwater project to alleviate those telephone calls and concerns from residents in the area about yards flooding, roads flooding and things of that nature. That's why those roads are being resurfaced and you're adding curb and gutter to [0:41:13, 0:41:23]: mainly deal with the stormwater issues in that neighborhood and resurfacing is just a byproduct of it because you're gonna damage some of the roads during the installation of the stormwater infrastructure. [0:41:23, 0:41:24]: Okay. [0:41:25, 0:41:27]: Okay, uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:41:28, 0:41:29]: Uh thank you, Mayor. [0:41:30, 0:41:31]: Uh [0:41:31, 0:41:34]: Mr. Knight and Mr. Aaron, you sort of answered the question. [0:41:35, 0:41:36]: Um [0:41:36, 0:41:38]: You know, just now. [0:41:38, 0:41:42]: Uh, Mr. Night, as you know, you and I had a conversation earlier today. [0:41:43, 0:41:43]: Um [0:41:44, 0:41:49]: But I want to go back and reemphasize to the citizen that may be watching. [0:41:49, 0:41:52]: Uh no is it's a great concern and Mr. Aaron. [0:41:53, 0:41:56]: I appreciate you just mentioned that because I know you and I [0:41:56, 0:42:00]: Have visited a number of um home owners. [0:42:00, 0:42:04]: And and those were the issues. And now we had talked about [0:42:05, 0:42:05]: Um [0:42:06, 0:42:09]: gutters, you know, curbing gutters before. [0:42:09, 0:42:13]: But Mr. Knight, going back to the original um [0:42:13, 0:42:17]: list T sparks list and I know we just talked about [0:42:17, 0:42:27]: I'm looking at my notes here, a reduction uh from the original list, uh, especially in the Tide Street area. [0:42:27, 0:42:30]: And two point five milyen reduction. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: specifically for curb and gutters. [0:42:33, 0:42:37]: And so I want you just to reemphasize to the citizen that may be watching. [0:42:38, 0:42:41]: that uh that two point five milyen [0:42:42, 0:42:45]: Well eventually come back from the [0:42:46, 0:42:47]: ARPA funds. [0:42:48, 0:42:55]: to supplement the uh original list. Uh is that a uh true assessment or can you explain that a little bit more? [0:42:55, 0:43:02]: Yes, and I think, you know, and Mr. Aaron mentioned the combination project, if you will, there's going to be several components to [0:43:03, 0:43:05]: Projects in that particular area. [0:43:05, 0:43:16]: And the the funds that can be used from ARP, which is stormwater, curb curb and gutter, and those items as a part of the overall projects is what we want to use to supplement. [0:43:17, 0:43:20]: The overall project from the ARP funds. [0:43:21, 0:43:24]: And and and just to make sure everyone understands [0:43:25, 0:43:35]: I know the question was asked um the purpose of those funds. And I think you just alluded to, and I think Mr. Mr. Aaron also is that um the purpose. [0:43:36, 0:43:38]: And these projects. [0:43:38, 0:43:39]: Uh they are compatible. [0:43:41, 0:43:42]: Correct. [0:43:42, 0:43:43]: Yes. [0:43:44, 0:43:45]: Okay. [0:43:46, 0:43:48]: So I I just wanted to make sure that [0:43:48, 0:43:50]: Um, everyone understood that [0:43:52, 0:43:52]: Yeah. [0:43:53, 0:43:56]: Even though it is a reduction of two point five [0:43:56, 0:43:58]: From the original list. [0:43:59, 0:44:05]: But then it's going to be supplemented um from the um ARPA funds. [0:44:05, 0:44:08]: To make the project compole again, if you will. [0:44:10, 0:44:11]: Yeah. [0:44:12, 0:44:13]: I thank you, sir. [0:44:13, 0:44:14]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:44:14, 0:44:16]: Airport Tam, go ahead, please. [0:44:16, 0:44:24]: Yeah, thank you so much. And I just want to reiterate some of the conversations that I've had with uh Councilman Thomas and the citizens. [0:44:25, 0:44:26]: Uh in that particular area. [0:44:27, 0:44:31]: Uh I didn't just go out today and decide and look, just look at this list. [0:44:32, 0:44:33]: Over the Paris. [0:44:33, 0:44:35]: Five years of my service. [0:44:36, 0:44:39]: I ventured out into every corner of the city. [0:44:40, 0:44:41]: And I will never forget. [0:44:42, 0:44:43]: Uh [0:44:43, 0:44:45]: Four and a half years ago when I ventured [0:44:46, 0:44:49]: Down second стрі, and I talked to several of those residents. [0:44:50, 0:44:51]: Including Councilman Thomas. [0:44:52, 0:44:54]: Uh, it multiple times since that point. [0:44:54, 0:44:57]: And literally their yards were washed away. [0:44:58, 0:44:59]: Because of the storm water. [0:44:59, 0:45:00]: running down. [0:45:01, 0:45:02]: Uh the heel. [0:45:02, 0:45:04]: And in areas like that. [0:45:04, 0:45:09]: And and I certainly support and I understand in talking to those residents. [0:45:09, 0:45:15]: They feel like the they've been overlooked in the past many times. And they told me that face to face. [0:45:16, 0:45:20]: We see that money is going into other areas of the city. [0:45:21, 0:45:22]: And we want to make sure that [0:45:22, 0:45:25]: That we're represented and that we're we're held down. [0:45:26, 0:45:29]: Just like every other decision, where we're fluent or not, we want to be [0:45:30, 0:45:30]: Hell down. [0:45:31, 0:45:33]: And I took that to heart because it really is true. [0:45:34, 0:45:37]: And and I support in in talking with Mr. Knighton about [0:45:38, 0:45:40]: uh how to do these projects and the funding. [0:45:41, 0:45:44]: The one thing about that those residents can rest assured is [0:45:44, 0:45:52]: T S Plus, I pray to God that it passed. I do, because we certainly need it with a billion dollar gap. [0:45:52, 0:45:53]: Uh in the sea. [0:45:53, 0:45:58]: But one thing about it is the American rescue funds are coming. We know that they are coming. [0:45:59, 0:46:00]: So the two мільяндор. [0:46:01, 0:46:04]: uh that uh is counted on of the four point five [0:46:04, 0:46:17]: you know that that money is already here. It's assured to be there whether the T splot passed or not. So those residents in an underserved community that have traditionally been overlooked through the history of the city. [0:46:17, 0:46:20]: They finally they're they're getting their just due. [0:46:21, 0:46:23]: Because I can't imagine living there. [0:46:24, 0:46:39]: and having uh you know storm water, my yard flood every time it rains or in those types of situations. So it's incumbent upon us to make sure that every citizen uh in the city is represented and that this area get their just due. [0:46:39, 0:46:44]: And then uh the plan has always been very, very consistent. [0:46:44, 0:46:48]: If you look at this list of the city manager and the city staff. [0:46:48, 0:46:56]: They've done with uh the original list, especially. What they did was they picked, they looked at the city's master trail plan. [0:46:56, 0:47:11]: And what they did was they picked a lot of those segments out because the vision of this council beginning in 2016 to 2016 and passing in 2017 is that we wanted a master trail plan. We wanted an Atlanta Belt Line type trail system. [0:47:11, 0:47:14]: And you hear every single day. [0:47:14, 0:47:24]: with citizens uh driving through the or or walking through the community, literally risking their lives. I know over here uh in this particular area down campground when it was built [0:47:25, 0:47:28]: It was built without certain sidewalks, which was a shame. [0:47:28, 0:47:35]: Because when the road was closed, people were got accustomed to using it. They would literally run on that closed street. [0:47:36, 0:47:37]: But when it opened up. [0:47:37, 0:47:40]: They didn't stop running. They still run now. [0:47:41, 0:47:45]: And I wake up every day hoping and praying that nobody loses their life. [0:47:46, 0:47:48]: Because they're running in traffic. [0:47:48, 0:47:51]: And that's what people are literally doing here. [0:47:51, 0:47:58]: daily in in abundance. And I mean night, day, middle of the day, all day long, people are running along. [0:47:58, 0:48:00]: Uh the grassy [0:48:00, 0:48:04]: uh shoulders and along the the uh curving. [0:48:04, 0:48:09]: uh into traffic and against traffic to get exercise in because it's a health and wellness area. [0:48:10, 0:48:24]: So I certainly uh uh support this approach. And those projects, the citizens can rest assured that those are the priority projects. Why? Because whether T-Splot's passed or not, the money is gonna be there for those projects. [0:48:24, 0:48:28]: And please I beg of you citizens to understand and know. [0:48:28, 0:48:30]: We have a billion dollar. [0:48:30, 0:48:31]: I said I didn't say millions. [0:48:32, 0:48:34]: billion dollar need [0:48:35, 0:48:38]: For traffic improvement in this community. [0:48:38, 0:48:39]: Everybody I [0:48:40, 0:48:43]: You don't have to have a town hall for them to tell you to rock quarry road. [0:48:43, 0:48:45]: Needs to be one. [0:48:45, 0:48:50]: And the very best thing about Rock Quarry Road, it's not just in one area of the city. [0:48:51, 0:48:58]: It starts off in South Stock Bridge near Eagles Landing Parkway, goes all the way to North Stock Bridge and North Henry Boulevard. [0:48:58, 0:49:03]: So services pretty much all of the city and it certainly would help us. [0:49:04, 0:49:07]: Because the last thing that we want is for and and we know. [0:49:07, 0:49:11]: Is that an ambulance not to be able to make it to the hospital? [0:49:11, 0:49:12]: Shaving off a few seconds. [0:49:13, 0:49:15]: When you're dealing with an emergency [0:49:15, 0:49:20]: Seconds mean lives. And to have a four-lane road there. [0:49:20, 0:49:30]: is appropriate. Uh even uh before we got started with this particular uh endeavor putting the T spots, understand that bridge was built [0:49:30, 0:49:32]: Over the railroad track. [0:49:32, 0:49:34]: In anticipation. [0:49:34, 0:49:36]: The rock quarry road would be white. [0:49:37, 0:49:39]: I remember when I first moved here. [0:49:39, 0:49:42]: And you would head into the city of Stockbridge and you had to [0:49:42, 0:49:45]: Stop at the railroad tracks before the bridge was built. [0:49:46, 0:49:47]: You'll understand. [0:49:47, 0:49:52]: Those days are past. Now they pass the torch along to us to go ahead and make [0:49:53, 0:49:55]: The necessary improvements. [0:49:55, 0:49:56]: Uh to create the area. [0:49:56, 0:50:00]: You know, I know I'm long-winded because this is very powerful to me. [0:50:00, 0:50:03]: And you think about how many times I've driven down Walt Stevens Road. [0:50:04, 0:50:05]: And dream. [0:50:05, 0:50:10]: of having sidewalks on Walt Stevens Road along that corridor. [0:50:10, 0:50:22]: And it really it really just I just when I went out to the Lake Spivey Recreation Center over in Clayton County and to understand the citizens along Walt Stevens Road have waited long enough. [0:50:22, 0:50:23]: For some. [0:50:24, 0:50:26]: They would literally be able to take their sidewalks. [0:50:27, 0:50:30]: In corporate partnership with Henry County all the way to Lake Spivey. [0:50:30, 0:50:32]: And all the way to [0:50:32, 0:50:35]: uh the flipping road trail network. [0:50:35, 0:50:55]: Walt Stevens deserves that. That area is tremendous. And that area deserves that particular funding. And that's something that I hope hopefully all of us can agree upon. That it would be a great thing as we uh embark upon uh completing our master trail plan to take Reed's Creek Trail all the way down Flippin' to Washington. [0:50:55, 0:50:57]: Wall Stevens out to Clayton County. [0:50:57, 0:51:00]: And then on the other side to take that trail. [0:51:00, 0:51:03]: From Reece Creek on into downtown. [0:51:04, 0:51:05]: To the amphitheater. [0:51:05, 0:51:08]: And on up to Panola Mountain State Park. [0:51:09, 0:51:12]: This is amazing things that we will we will uh [0:51:12, 0:51:13]: be allowed to do. [0:51:14, 0:51:16]: When I hear citizens talk a lot of times about [0:51:16, 0:51:21]: other projects. We got a billion dollar gap and I will close by saying this. [0:51:21, 0:51:22]: G the [0:51:22, 0:51:25]: Wants you to have skin in the game. [0:51:25, 0:51:27]: They're looking at us. [0:51:27, 0:51:31]: And what they do is they share larger shares of funding [0:51:32, 0:51:33]: We communities. [0:51:33, 0:51:36]: that bring their own money to the table. [0:51:36, 0:51:45]: And that's what the purpose of the T-SPLOST is, is to bring your money to the table. So when you come to GDOT and you're empty-handed and you don't have any money, they're like, [0:51:46, 0:51:49]: You know, show me that you really want to get out of traffic. [0:51:49, 0:51:51]: I know that I hear. [0:51:51, 0:51:54]: Henry County say every day that they want to get out of traffic. [0:51:55, 0:51:58]: This is the opportunity to make that happen. [0:51:58, 0:52:15]: And I'm hoping everyone will look at this list in its entirety and understand it represents north, south, east, and west in the city. And everybody gets a little piece of the pie to improve the overall transportation for the city of Stockbridge. Thank you. [0:52:16, 0:52:21]: All right. Um I actually ladies and uh Councilwoman Barber, you have any comments that you have at this point? [0:52:23, 0:52:28]: I did, thank you. Uh Ms. Can you show that list again? [0:52:29, 0:52:30]: Um [0:52:30, 0:52:33]: Yes, yes. [0:52:33, 0:52:40]: I have a question about ARPA. I know that it can be used for road and infrastructure improvements. [0:52:41, 0:52:42]: Um [0:52:43, 0:52:44]: Forgive me. So [0:52:45, 0:52:45]: Yeah. [0:52:46, 0:52:55]: It can be used for the the wording that has been used is sewer, water, stormwater, broadband infrastructure. [0:53:00, 0:53:05]: So as it pertains to any road extensions, um [0:53:06, 0:53:08]: Or even the widening. [0:53:08, 0:53:09]: Mm-hmm. [0:53:09, 0:53:15]: I see the very first project is for curb and better in sidewalks and lightning. I know it's mostly [0:53:15, 0:53:17]: This is the Tastry community. [0:53:17, 0:53:18]: Um [0:53:19, 0:53:29]: Curious to know why Nolan Street, um, the extent that we talked about briefly isn't included on here. Would that fall under being [0:53:29, 0:53:31]: Reimbursed by ARPA as well. [0:53:33, 0:53:37]: Not specifically for a road, a pure road project, it would not. [0:53:38, 0:53:40]: not under the ARP funds. [0:53:41, 0:53:46]: If that was something that uh the council wanted to consider for pure T-SPLOST funds. [0:53:47, 0:53:51]: That can be done, but not sp specifically for um ARPA funds. [0:53:51, 0:53:52]: Okay. [0:53:53, 0:53:53]: Um [0:53:56, 0:54:01]: So it is not ARPA cannot be used for any pedestrian. [0:54:01, 0:54:02]: Improvements. [0:54:03, 0:54:06]: I'm looking at the Berk Street and Love Street. [0:54:06, 0:54:07]: Interact. [0:54:08, 0:54:09]: No those [0:54:10, 0:54:15]: No, they cannot be purely used for that. The the ARPA funds were intended [0:54:15, 0:54:23]: To be used for specific s infrastructure items such as again, water, sewer infrastructure, stormwater, broadband infrastructure. [0:54:24, 0:54:31]: And I think that largely was done because the infrastructure plan that's being proposed by the president at the current time. [0:54:32, 0:54:36]: А нет с матриculating through Congress in one way or another. [0:54:36, 0:54:41]: Із мофи то transportation and transit and pure. [0:54:41, 0:54:51]: uh traffic um facilitation projects. And so the expectation would be if those uh that bill or ultimately is passed in some form. [0:54:51, 0:54:54]: that pure transportation projects and transit [0:54:55, 0:54:57]: Uh in uh you know. [0:54:57, 0:55:01]: aviation, things of that nature would be a part of that package. [0:55:02, 0:55:03]: Okay. Thank you. [0:55:05, 0:55:06]: Uh, Miss Gantt, do you have any comments at all? [0:55:07, 0:55:07]: Yeah. [0:55:08, 0:55:12]: No. I think everyone's a pretty much asked everything in detail and [0:55:13, 0:55:13]: At length. [0:55:14, 0:55:15]: Lectures. [0:55:15, 0:55:15]: I'm good. [0:55:16, 0:55:30]: Okay, so on that note, it makes me think what Mr. Knighton presented, everybody's in sync with that. And that's what will be turned over to the county for them to on reference to the joint projects and the funding, the joint projects and the funding that we're going to assist them with. [0:55:30, 0:55:39]: And then provided that they're they're good with that, then I would imagine that there's be a time frame in which I will have to sign the intergovernmental agreement. [0:55:39, 0:55:50]: Um upon uh make sure that uh you know, once the council says yeah, we're good to go on that, ask my thoughts. Is that right, uh Mr. Knighton, or even if I need Quentin to answer respond on that at all. [0:55:50, 0:55:52]: Wanna make sure we're we're right here. [0:55:53, 0:55:57]: Right. I think the the main thing here was to uh have the council [0:55:57, 0:56:02]: To settle in on a approved project list, of course, Henry County will be meeting [0:56:02, 0:56:06]: uh tomorrow uh to consider their overall project list as well as [0:56:07, 0:56:08]: Your IGA. [0:56:08, 0:56:23]: Um can pass we can or the council can consider and passing the IGA after Henry County passes theirs. The intergovernmental agreement basically is fairly standard in in in many forms, and I think uh either Jeremy andor Quentin have have reviewed it in detail. [0:56:23, 0:56:25]: And basically spells out [0:56:25, 0:56:27]: uh everything that's listed there. [0:56:27, 0:56:36]: Um, you know, the appendix will change with our road project list, assuming the council will approve it uh tonight. So we can actually approve the IGA. [0:56:36, 0:56:44]: uh at a different date, um perhaps even on Monday at the the council meeting on Monday, the actual IGA itself, if that's [0:56:44, 0:56:45]: Your pleasure. [0:56:46, 0:56:52]: And just to follow up on that, Mayor, they just sent us an updated IGA of 532. [0:56:53, 0:56:55]: With some revisions and so we want to look at [0:56:55, 0:57:00]: We wanna get a chance to look at that and we'll circulate back to the council for you all's review. [0:57:01, 0:57:18]: Okay, wow. All right. So it makes me think then, based on what I've heard, that we can we can approve the the project list for us, the joint project list for the county for us individually as a city, and then look to uh the IGA itself on the twelfth of the next council meeting since you all just got a revised copy. [0:57:19, 0:57:21]: That's my assumption at this point. Is that correct? [0:57:21, 0:57:30]: Yes. That's correct. Yes, that's correct. And and the county would like to have that IGA certainly by the July twentieth is the I guess the drop did. [0:57:30, 0:57:31]: Uh deadline. [0:57:32, 0:57:35]: Um and uh we'll be looking forward to having that. [0:57:36, 0:57:36]: Um [0:57:37, 0:57:38]: Um [0:57:39, 0:57:52]: uh provided to you on Monday. I think as I'm getting some information here, I think that the revision was sent this afternoon because Locust Grove had some changes to their project list, just like we're having some changes to our project list from what was presented before. [0:57:52, 0:57:57]: um on the uh county's IGA and again the county will consider that as I understand it tomorrow. [0:57:57, 0:58:04]: Right. Um on and their IGA. And there may be some subtle things that may change. The the main things are in the IGA that I saw. [0:58:05, 0:58:08]: Was that number thirty thousand thirty million five hundred and forty two? [0:58:09, 0:58:13]: thousand six hundred and twenty five, which is the stock bridge allocation. [0:58:13, 0:58:25]: um and everything else. Um of course and with the with the um proposed joint projects, if the council is inclined to go ahead and approve this, I think that will um [0:58:25, 0:58:31]: uh support and buttress the notion that the city of Stockbridge [0:58:31, 0:58:40]: um is um seeking to work with the county and all of the cities overall in its transportation network and supporting those joint projects. [0:58:40, 0:58:54]: It stand by a second, please. I just thought about something and I don't know this I don't know if it's overwrinkle and everything or not, but the census data is going to come out here shortly. And my assumption is the city of Starbury's will still be the largest city in the county. [0:58:55, 0:59:00]: So for some strange reason, if that is not the case, I would imagine this number changes somewhat. [0:59:00, 0:59:01]: Is that is that my assumption? [0:59:02, 0:59:10]: I think this is a good number. I think it's a solid number. It's a is a it's a it's it's in the stock ridges. [0:59:10, 0:59:13]: Okay. [0:59:13, 0:59:23]: It bodes well for the city of Stockbridge. All right. No problem. I agree with you. I'm just Yeah, the because the the direct proceeds amount they have at least in this draft IDA IGA. [0:59:24, 0:59:26]: Not agreed to get twelve point seven five percent. [0:59:27, 0:59:31]: And McDonald would get eleven point four one and the other ones are right at three and a half percent. [0:59:32, 0:59:36]: Okay, well fantastic. I mean just have to think about it anyway, so be it. [0:59:36, 0:59:37]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [0:59:38, 0:59:44]: Yeah, I think pretty much we're we're in unison and uh what I'd like to do is to go ahead and make the motion. [0:59:44, 0:59:50]: uh to to approve this recommended T Splash transportation list. [0:59:50, 0:59:54]: uh as recommended by the city manager inclusive [0:59:55, 0:59:57]: Of the ARPA funds. [0:59:57, 1:00:03]: being designated for those particular projects to make those citizens rest assured that. [1:00:03, 1:00:21]: When we pass this T Splos, those ARPA funds will be uh designated to go to those projects along with uh the T Splos. So there's no trickery, there's nothing coming forward. We just want to make sure that it's the plan as the city manager has described it, the project list. [1:00:21, 1:00:24]: And the funding allocations are approved. [1:00:24, 1:00:26]: as stated, uh including ARPA. [1:00:27, 1:00:32]: I second Mayor. Okay. That was uh Mr. Thomas's second then. Okay. [1:00:33, 1:00:34]: Any further discussion? [1:00:35, 1:00:39]: Ms. Um, just for the record, are you calling Mr. Dynton the first [1:00:40, 1:00:45]: Project list option one and then the revised one including the opera plans option two. [1:00:46, 1:00:49]: And you uh uh Count Mayor Pro Tem Alexander are [1:00:50, 1:00:52]: Putting in your motion the option two. [1:00:53, 1:00:53]: Yes. [1:00:53, 1:00:56]: I'm putting in the total inclusive. [1:00:56, 1:01:16]: Whichever with all of the uh ones that uh included the new projects as well as uh the ARPA funding. So it would be the total, yes. As a revised list. This is revised list. The revised list including the joint projects and new projects as listed. And ARPA funding. Yes. And ARPA funding, correct. [1:01:16, 1:01:17]: Yes, got it. [1:01:18, 1:01:23]: Thank you. Mr. Thomas, uh second bat. Okay. Uh any further discussion? [1:01:24, 1:01:26]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [1:01:27, 1:01:32]: Nam's decision. There you go. Fantastic. Well, great stuff. Um [1:01:32, 1:01:44]: What else was next was executive session. I'm not sure if we still have a need to go into executive session at this point based on some correspondence that our attorney sent us uh jointly some time ago. [1:01:45, 1:01:57]: Yes, I'm basically going to send you a memo from Miss McFadden and with recommend with some recommendations and some research that she has done and then we can discuss that in the upcoming executive session. [1:01:57, 1:01:58]: On the twelfth. [1:02:00, 1:02:01]: Uh sir. [1:02:01, 1:02:02]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:02:02, 1:02:05]: Look, uh I think this issue we [1:02:05, 1:02:13]: We had this meeting specifically to deal with these issues and the council uh does want to have an executive session tonight. [1:02:14, 1:02:20]: Well I need if that's the case, I need a motion. So I would like to make a motion to go on executive session for real estate. [1:02:21, 1:02:21]: Personnel. [1:02:22, 1:02:23]: and litigation. [1:02:24, 1:02:25]: Their second. [1:02:26, 1:02:27]: A second. [1:02:27, 1:02:27]: Okay. [1:02:28, 1:02:29]: Any further discussion? [1:02:30, 1:02:33]: And if not, all in favor of going to the second session, please. [1:02:34, 1:02:35]: Okay. [1:02:35, 1:02:37]: All poles. [1:02:38, 1:02:39]: Hi. [1:02:40, 1:02:52]: Okay, so I got three zero three two zero. So we're going to executive session. So on that note, then Ms. Holliday um attorneys, we will have to send us a separate link to go into executive session and have some discussion. [1:02:53, 1:02:55]: And I'm going to uh [1:02:56, 1:02:59]: have the our um PRO to uh cut off our [1:03:00, 1:03:05]: Facebook because we're going to second session. I'll see you on Zeke session probably within the next ten minutes, I would imagine. [1:03:05, 1:03:08]: Right. Thank you. See you soon. [1:04:11, 1:04:11]: One. [1:04:20, 1:04:21]: Okay. [1:04:24, 1:04:24]: Okay. [1:04:26, 1:04:32]: So this is see that this is uh work pretty fast there, Councilman Barber. Should work pretty fast. So we get a uh [1:04:35, 1:04:36]: You were back here. [1:04:38, 1:04:42]: We need a quorum. Yeah, and Bebel is that [1:04:43, 1:04:44]: A second here. [1:05:12, 1:05:14]: Councilwoman Barrow, you may have to leave. [1:05:43, 1:05:45]: There we go. [1:06:09, 1:06:15]: Well we just need uh well actually we just need uh Mayor Pro Tem to show up and then uh we can go forward. [1:06:22, 1:06:24]: I need to talk to Shane. She [1:06:24, 1:06:25]: For the paper. [1:06:25, 1:06:26]: Shin is on. [1:06:27, 1:06:27]: I'm [1:06:28, 1:06:28]: He's here. [1:06:29, 1:06:33]: Hey Vanessa, yes, I'm on. I'm just waiting for Mayor Ford to tell me when to stream it. [1:06:34, 1:06:34]: Got it. [1:06:44, 1:06:47]: I'm not used to the stock breach PR. [1:06:47, 1:06:52]: Right, this little It's me. [1:06:55, 1:06:56]: Okay, where are you? [1:07:19, 1:07:20]: Adjustment. [1:07:24, 1:07:25]: So one. [1:07:32, 1:07:35]: Did someone notify um Councilman Blount? [1:07:36, 1:07:37]: Yes. [1:08:12, 1:08:18]: I just sent a message to uh Alexander, Mayor Pro Tum Alexander and Councilman Blount that we're [1:08:18, 1:08:20]: back in the meeting to close out. [1:08:21, 1:08:31]: I'm going to step away for just a moment. I probably should have taken the five minutes when I suggested it. Okay. [1:09:08, 1:09:10]: All right. [1:09:10, 1:09:15]: We just need one more to close this out. Let's see here. Uh [1:09:47, 1:09:50]: All right, we have a quorum now, but um [1:09:50, 1:09:54]: Uh Shana, could you go ahead and start the um Facebook Live, please? [1:09:54, 1:09:55]: Yes, sir. [1:09:55, 1:09:56]: Thank you. [1:09:57, 1:10:06]: Remember Miss Barber stepped away. I understand. I I I appreciate that. I understand. But I want at least gonna get this started and then uh as soon as she steps back in, we'll go through the process. [1:10:18, 1:10:19]: So I will hold Mayor Ford. [1:10:20, 1:10:21]: All right. [1:10:23, 1:10:24]: Good decision there. [1:10:50, 1:10:52]: The wind is kicking up strong. [1:10:53, 1:10:53]: Was that right? [1:10:55, 1:10:55]: Yeah. [1:10:57, 1:11:00]: I guess we're getting ready to get the uh the results. [1:11:01, 1:11:06]: Okay. It was her name. Elsa? Is that what it is? Her name is Elsa? Yes. [1:11:08, 1:11:09]: Okay. [1:11:15, 1:11:15]: Yeah. [1:11:51, 1:11:55]: Just out of curiosity, is anybody a Phoenix Suns fan or a uh [1:11:56, 1:11:58]: Or a Milwaukee Bucks fan here. [1:11:59, 1:12:01]: Uh only because of Chris Paul. [1:12:01, 1:12:03]: Yeah, well I like Chris Paul as well. [1:12:03, 1:12:04]: Exactly. [1:12:05, 1:12:08]: And my husband is claiming Drew Holiday now, so [1:12:08, 1:12:13]: Okay. I I'm gonna have I'm gonna have to go with the bucks. [1:12:13, 1:12:16]: Oh no. I can't go with the bugs. [1:12:16, 1:12:27]: Oh, I don't think I don't think Giannis is gonna make it tonight. I think he's doubtful. I don't think he's gonna be in it. I I don't know what's I think he's heard a little worse than everybody says. That's that's the [1:12:28, 1:12:31]: That is the uh question. Is he gonna be able to play? [1:12:32, 1:12:35]: Yeah, if if you saw if you saw that, yeah, that would that was bad. That was ugly. [1:12:36, 1:12:36]: Yes. [1:12:38, 1:12:40]: Um I you know, uh [1:12:40, 1:12:42]: A Arizona's a little too hot for me. [1:12:45, 1:12:47]: A more than one way. [1:12:48, 1:12:48]: Okay. [1:12:49, 1:12:51]: Good enough. [1:12:53, 1:12:55]: Okay. [1:13:00, 1:13:03]: So the game started at what nine, I guess. [1:13:04, 1:13:08]: I it could have been nine. I can't remember. It was nine or eight thirty, something like maybe it's nine. [1:13:08, 1:13:11]: It's been on for half an hour, it's been nine, roughly a little over half an hour. [1:13:14, 1:13:18]: You'll get a chance to watch some of the game tonight. Yeah. [1:13:19, 1:13:22]: Okay. [1:13:24, 1:13:25]: Okay. [1:14:00, 1:14:02]: Hmm. [1:14:13, 1:14:22]: Ah, there we go. All right. Miss Barber's back. Miss Thornton, please uh start the Facebook Live piece. Yeah, sir. Thank you very much. [1:14:29, 1:14:30]: Okay, there we go. [1:14:32, 1:14:52]: All right, council. We have now uh ended our executive session, so I need a motion to uh to end the session. I'm sorry, I need a motion to end the executive session, please. So move. There's a second. Ms. Barber. Okay, Miss Barber had her hand up, sir. All three please indicate. Okay, appreciate it. I need a motion now to reconvene. [1:14:52, 1:14:54]: In our council work session. [1:14:55, 1:14:58]: Ms. Barber, put a hand up. Is that a second? Second. [1:14:59, 1:15:03]: Okay. Um Mayor Pro Tem second then. All in favor, please indicate. [1:15:04, 1:15:09]: Uh okay, good deal. And we have nothing to report from our uh segregar session. [1:15:09, 1:15:13]: at this time. So um I need a motion to end our council work session. [1:15:14, 1:15:14]: Some [1:15:15, 1:15:21]: Okay. Second. I'll give it to Thomas this time. Mr. Thomas got it. All in favor, please indicate. [1:15:21, 1:15:28]: Uh okay, fantastic. Good night, everybody. Have a good evening. Be safe. Good night. So long.
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    --- title: June 29 2021 Work Session Meeting Via Zoom date: 2021-06-29 source: 2021-06-29_June_29_2021_Work_Session_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:59, 0:01:05]: Afternoon, man. Good afternoon. I I got a little confused there for a s for a little bit. [0:01:05, 0:01:06]: I clicked on [0:01:07, 0:01:10]: Clicked on something wrong. But anyway, we're good now. You hear. [0:01:11, 0:01:11]: All right. [0:01:12, 0:01:14]: Alrighty then. [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: All right, there we go. [0:01:28, 0:01:30]: Alrighty then. [0:01:35, 0:01:40]: And uh Mr. Bond, you can um when the time's appropriate, make me co-host. [0:01:40, 0:01:41]: Please. [0:01:42, 0:01:43]: Yeah, we already got it. [0:01:43, 0:01:45]: Okay, sir. Thank you. And then uh [0:01:45, 0:01:51]: Vanessa, when we get to a second session, because we will have one, I need to be host of that as well. [0:01:51, 0:01:53]: All right, you got it? Let me [0:02:00, 0:02:02]: Go ahead and set that up. [0:02:03, 0:02:03]: Okay. [0:02:12, 0:02:15]: How you doing, Mr. Mullis? If that's how you pronounce it. [0:02:23, 0:02:24]: Good afternoon. [0:02:24, 0:02:25]: Good afternoon to you. [0:02:55, 0:02:57]: Mr. Mullis, you are presenting a topic this evening. [0:03:03, 0:03:05]: I you're muted, sir. [0:03:07, 0:03:08]: Yes, sir. [0:03:08, 0:03:09]: Okay. [0:03:10, 0:03:12]: All right, appreciate it. Thank you. [0:03:12, 0:03:13]: Alrighty. [0:03:27, 0:03:28]: Mayor Ford, how you doing? [0:03:30, 0:03:38]: It's fine, Mayor Paul. Um Councilman Thomas, how you doing? Good to see you. I didn't just let you know I I got your message the other day about the uh first respondents. [0:03:38, 0:03:42]: Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, I had another meeting that hopefully it went well for you. [0:03:43, 0:03:46]: It it was great. Uh it's it's a continuous so [0:03:46, 0:03:50]: In the month of July, we will be uh doing some things as well. [0:03:50, 0:03:55]: Okay, good deal. Appreciate that. We'll talk offline. Sure, absolutely. Thank you very much. [0:05:23, 0:05:25]: [338.1, 338.9]: Yeah. [0:05:50, 0:06:00]: [380.1, 383.2]: Ladies and gentlemen, we are now live on Facebook as well. [0:06:25, 0:06:27]: And we do not have a qualm just yet. [0:06:29, 0:06:31]: Councilwoman Barber, good evening to you. [0:06:34, 0:06:36]: Good evening, everybody. Good evening. [0:07:10, 0:07:12]: Evening, Mr. Knighton. [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: Hello, Mayor. [0:07:16, 0:07:18]: Everyone and everyone. [0:07:19, 0:07:20]: Okay. [0:07:29, 0:07:30]: Yeah. [0:07:48, 0:07:53]: Good evening, uh Councilman Blount and Councilwoman Kent. [0:07:54, 0:07:58]: I see that John Palmer is online as well. Good evening to you, sir. [0:08:04, 0:08:15]: Okay, Mayor. Good evening, Mayor. Good evening. I'm actually out of town on a business conference. So my apologies. Um, if I'm in and out. I'm actually on the West Coast, so. [0:08:16, 0:08:18]: I'm trying. All right. [0:08:19, 0:08:21]: Well, I appreciate you uh signing in tonight. [0:08:22, 0:08:23]: Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem. [0:08:24, 0:08:25]: Appreciate you here. [0:08:26, 0:08:31]: Let's see here and uh I need my attorneys, the attorneys. [0:08:38, 0:08:40]: Good evening, everyone. [0:08:41, 0:08:42]: All right. [0:08:53, 0:08:57]: Yeah, the attorneys were trying to get connected here. [0:08:57, 0:08:58]: Okay. [0:08:58, 0:08:59]: All right. [0:08:59, 0:09:03]: Yeah, we need them before we start the meeting. It is six o'clock actually. [0:10:05, 0:10:06]: [615.5, 618.8]: I'm assuming Mr. Knighton, you said you had contact with our attorneys already? [0:10:20, 0:10:26]: Uh yes, I'm on the phone now and trying to trying to determine what is transpiring here. So we're trying to get'em connected. [0:10:26, 0:10:27]: Okay. [0:10:27, 0:10:32]: I just resent the link as well, so hopefully they get inside. Okay. Thank you. [0:12:28, 0:12:33]: Uh just one more minute, uh Mayor. One more minute here. I appreciate it. [0:14:16, 0:14:16]: That's cool. [0:14:54, 0:14:55]: Okay. [0:14:55, 0:15:00]: Mayor, I I don't know what was transpiring with that. I have I have provided um both [0:15:00, 0:15:01]: Um [0:15:02, 0:15:03]: Mr. Washington and [0:15:04, 0:15:06]: Mr. Berry modeling. [0:15:06, 0:15:09]: Because apparently they weren't that's him coming in now. [0:15:10, 0:15:10]: Okay. [0:15:11, 0:15:11]: All right. [0:15:12, 0:15:12]: Oh [0:15:13, 0:15:15]: All right, Mr. Washington, welcome. [0:15:15, 0:15:17]: Hi, how are you? All right, sir. [0:15:18, 0:15:21]: Okay. I'm gonna get I gotta get my some of my video stuff correct of [0:15:21, 0:15:26]: All right. And uh okay. So we got uh [0:15:28, 0:15:31]: And attorney and I have uh six oh seven. [0:15:32, 0:15:36]: And so I'd like to call our oh, there's Jeremy there. Okay, great. [0:15:36, 0:15:38]: six oh seven. So I'd like to call our [0:15:39, 0:15:42]: June twenty ninth, council work session uh to order. [0:15:43, 0:15:45]: And the invocation, Mr. Knighton, please. [0:15:46, 0:15:53]: Thank you, Mayor. Um, and good evening to mayor and council and all of the citizens and staff who are viewing this meeting and participating. [0:15:54, 0:15:55]: Let us pray. [0:15:56, 0:16:00]: Most gracious God, we do give you thanks and praise this evening. [0:16:00, 0:16:03]: For all of your wonderful blessings and your benefits. [0:16:03, 0:16:10]: We thank you for the opportunity to be here this evening and to serve and discuss the very important matters. [0:16:10, 0:16:13]: Of city governance for the city of Stockbridge, we pray. [0:16:14, 0:16:17]: Your blessings of wisdom and understanding. [0:16:18, 0:16:20]: And we pray that you grant us. [0:16:21, 0:16:23]: The knowledge to [0:16:23, 0:16:26]: Discuss those matters that are important to the citizens of the [0:16:27, 0:16:31]: Of the city of Stockbridge, we ask your blessing, your covering and your protection. [0:16:32, 0:16:34]: Upon our city and upon [0:16:35, 0:16:37]: The council members and staff [0:16:37, 0:16:41]: We pray that your name will be glorified in the activities. [0:16:41, 0:16:43]: And discussions of this evening. [0:16:44, 0:16:46]: And we pray, God, that we are [0:16:47, 0:16:49]: Better when we leave this meeting. [0:16:49, 0:16:50]: Than we are now. [0:16:51, 0:16:53]: And we pray your blessing and ask this. [0:16:53, 0:16:56]: In your son, my Savior Jesus' name. [0:16:56, 0:16:57]: Amen. [0:16:57, 0:16:58]: Amen. [0:16:59, 0:17:01]: Could you please stand for the pledge of allegiance? [0:17:05, 0:17:14]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of of the United States of America. And to the Republican [0:17:14, 0:17:22]: One nation. Underground individual. And we're libertarian and wow. [0:17:23, 0:17:25]: Put that in the [0:17:26, 0:17:28]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:17:32, 0:17:33]: Mayor Ford. [0:17:33, 0:17:33]: Present. [0:17:34, 0:17:35]: May approach M Alexander. [0:17:36, 0:17:36]: Present. [0:17:37, 0:17:38]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:17:38, 0:17:39]: I see. [0:17:39, 0:17:40]: Councilman. [0:17:40, 0:17:40]: Blount. [0:17:41, 0:17:42]: Present. [0:17:42, 0:17:43]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:17:44, 0:17:44]: Present. [0:17:45, 0:17:46]: Councilman Thomas. [0:17:46, 0:17:47]: President. [0:17:47, 0:17:49]: Mayor Ford, you have a quantum. [0:17:49, 0:17:54]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Um council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:17:56, 0:17:57]: So move. [0:17:57, 0:18:03]: Okay. And and councilman uh councilwoman gat second that all in favor, please indicate. [0:18:04, 0:18:07]: Really appreciate it. Thank you very much as you names. [0:18:07, 0:18:15]: Okay, so what you have before you, Council, is a review of the minutes for the following meetings. We had a T S PLOS joint transportation meeting. [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: On April fifteenth with the county and all the other cities. [0:18:19, 0:18:22]: Uh we also have the minutes uh from a council meeting. [0:18:23, 0:18:25]: on May tenth and a council work session. [0:18:26, 0:18:36]: on uh May twenty fifth. So review those and uh we'll take that we'll approve those minutes, terminal changes, we'll approve those minutes at our next council meeting on next month. [0:18:37, 0:18:41]: On that note, um Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [0:18:41, 0:18:45]: Yes, sir. We do have one public comment this evening. Go ahead, please. [0:18:46, 0:18:52]: This is from Mr. Rashid Rowe 509, McCain Creek Trail and Stockbridge. [0:18:52, 0:18:55]: Good evening, City of Stockbridge officials. [0:18:55, 0:18:58]: I'm going to make this brief because I've been busy all day. [0:18:59, 0:19:03]: How can the city hold these investors and homeowners? [0:19:03, 0:19:04]: Accountable. [0:19:05, 0:19:07]: Whenever they are in code violation. [0:19:09, 0:19:10]: That's the comment. [0:19:11, 0:19:25]: Okay. No further comments, Mayor. I appreciate it. Thank you. As part of the record, we'll follow up on that as best we can and get them an answer back to that. Uh on that note, uh, we have a presentation, a projects update by Falcon Design. [0:19:25, 0:19:28]: And I see Mr. John Palmer online, sir. [0:19:28, 0:19:29]: Good evening. [0:19:29, 0:19:32]: Good evening, City Council. How are you? [0:19:33, 0:19:53]: Uh Adam was gonna be here. He had a he had an issue that he had to take care of. I've got Skip Leighton. Uh he was trying to get in. I don't know if he actually got in on Zoom, but I've got him on uh speaker phone so he can uh discuss it as well. But uh really wanted to go through and jump right in on some of the projects and give you guys updates. [0:19:53, 0:19:58]: of where we are. I'm gonna share, can I share my screen? Let's see. [0:20:00, 0:20:02]: You should be able to do that, sir. All right. [0:20:04, 0:20:11]: Here we go. Um and let me know if you can see it. We c we can see it. You wanna can you blow it up a little bigger? [0:20:11, 0:20:12]: Sure. [0:20:15, 0:20:35]: Uh the first project I want to give you an update uh on is the downtown alleyway project. Uh what I have on the screen here is the uh construction documents for that. Uh we have turned this in to your city uh for permitting. So uh if we can if we can get expedited review. [0:20:35, 0:20:51]: from the city that'd be great. But uh this is the set of plans, it's a full set of construction drawings, uh 16 pages. But um anyway it goes through what we're doing. I can kind of go through some of the pages with you if you care to hear about them. Sure go right ahead please. [0:20:52, 0:21:12]: Uh this is uh the erosion control plan, but let me get to a different plan, it'll be easier for everyone to see. This is the overall site plan. Uh last time when we discussed with you guys, we had just a color rendering of the concept is a pretty picture. Um, but in general, this is downtown. [0:21:12, 0:21:32]: Where my hand is on the screen if you can see it. These are the downtown buildings, and just to the right of here would be the railroad track. This is the Ted Strickland building, is here. And what we were tasked to do is you the city would like to dress up the alley. [0:21:32, 0:21:50]: behind these buildings, address some stormwater concerns, some stormwater issues that the city has, also create some temporary parking areas. This part of the city's master plan is eventually to redevelop this area, but for now [0:21:50, 0:22:10]: We were tasked with creating some temporary parking. We do have some permanent elements here. This is a permanent concrete drive with a dumpster enclosure, dumpster pad here that all of these businesses will use. So they don't have individual little dumpsters that are going to [0:22:10, 0:22:30]: That messy the place up. They'll have one place to take their trash to. There's actually a ramp right here as well. So delivery trucks can back in. They can offload here with a ramp and hit and go to all of the rears of these buildings downtown. [0:22:30, 0:22:50]: area uh that runs north-south on the page it looks like a brick pattern those are actually permeable papers um so it's gonna be uh it looks like a concrete brick uh decorative brick pattern and underneath it it has uh a rock gravel base um and [0:22:50, 0:23:10]: And so the water hits it, goes through it, uh into this gravel base, then we catch it, and we put it into your stormwater system. So right now you've got some stormwater issues uh back in this area and it it just looks bad. Um but this is gonna dress that up and fix a lot of your stormwater concerns. [0:23:10, 0:23:27]: that you have. This is just phase one. Phase two will eventually go up behind the Ted Strickland building. There'll be a big walkway connecting downtown to your future cultural arts center as well. [0:23:28, 0:23:35]: But uh the things we're using are brick pavers, gravel, we've got concrete, and we've got some landscaping that we're going to be doing as well back here. [0:23:37, 0:23:41]: So just uh wanna see if there's any questions or concerns or comments. [0:23:41, 0:24:01]: Well yeah, yes, sir. I will start this off. Uh so otherwise you mentioned you're just waiting on for us to give you the the the proper permits where you continue on continue on with this project is what I understand. Is that correct? Yeah, and you just now got it. You just now got the full set of plans. So your staff hasn't they're not behind or anything like that. But uh you know, I wanna make sure you guys were aware. [0:24:01, 0:24:17]: we've turned this in for permitting once we get the permits. Um this is a little bit more detail um but once we get the permits um we'll work with Lyndale to get it bid out uh and get it constructed. [0:24:18, 0:24:26]: You have any timeline that you think that's uh uh that you can mention to us about uh when you think this project would be completed? Any idea? [0:24:27, 0:24:47]: Um well if we can get a permit in the next month, I mean skip here on the line two, Skip, we can probably go ahead and start meeting with Lindell now to get um some of the bid documents put together, even with uh what we've submitted. Um what do you see as a good timeline, Skip? [0:24:48, 0:24:55]: Well Elder City's typically been taking um uh forty-five days or so to do the bidding process. [0:25:05, 0:25:05]: Uh [0:25:06, 0:25:11]: So I'm I'm honestly thinking probably September, October before you put a contractor on the ground. [0:25:12, 0:25:20]: that gets time to analyze the bids, award the bids, um, and then get them mobilized. So [0:25:20, 0:25:26]: All right. Thank you. Council, any other questions that you may have for Mr. Palmer on this project? Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [0:25:26, 0:25:32]: Yeah, gentlemen, I really appreciate this. I've been inquiring about this project to make sure it was moving along. [0:25:32, 0:25:37]: Is there some reason that it took us this long to get to this point? [0:25:40, 0:26:00]: Um well I mean there's a lot of factors with the the property lines themselves, getting those worked out, um, had to get the topo done, the surveys done, uh had to analyze your storm system, your sewer system, um, and we had to analyze your grease traps. Uh so meeting with the the D the [0:26:00, 0:26:20]: the the Main Street program. Obviously the goal would be some of these will become restaurants. You only have one grease trap back there right now. Uh so we've gone back and forth on different ways to to do grease traps um in a way that will allow you to have the restaurants at the same time [0:26:20, 0:26:30]: um will not be unsightly or smelly. Uh so we've kind of worked through all those issues, worked that out, and we're ready to move forward now. [0:26:31, 0:26:36]: So in terms of the surveying on the property lines, what all did you do? You just did the alleyway or you had the [0:26:37, 0:26:42]: uh do the survey for all of the built uh the buildings uh connected to the alleyway. [0:26:43, 0:27:03]: We did surveys of the buildings. Uh, we did surveys of this store uh here at the corner. Um, we had to go to the front of the buildings all as well and get those. You got to get the mineral floor elevation so that you make sure that you don't have water going back into the existing uh buildings. [0:27:03, 0:27:14]: building doorways. But so yeah, we we ended up surveying not just what you see on this page, but we had to survey a lot of a lot of other stuff as well. Let me go back here. [0:27:14, 0:27:34]: Again, you can kind of see we surveyed up here on the Ted Strickland building, all the infrastructure out here on uh the Burke Street, underground utility locates. Um yeah, there's a lot that went into the surveying just because there's there's so much stuff crammed in this one little area. Um and a lot of these a lot [0:27:34, 0:27:38]: A lot of these things are old. I mean, these buildings have been here for decades. [0:27:39, 0:27:48]: So did you have did you go all the way down to uh Love Street to the fire station and to the other buildings or you cut it off at the Ted Strickland Center? [0:27:48, 0:27:49]: Cut it off of the Ted. [0:27:50, 0:27:54]: We may have some points up there, survey points, but we didn't get all the [0:27:55, 0:27:56]: All the way up there with our boundary. [0:27:57, 0:28:00]: Okay, I do understand there's some concerns with [0:28:00, 0:28:04]: The surveying uh on some of the other properties. So this will be [0:28:04, 0:28:06]: uh advantages to [0:28:06, 0:28:10]: Other business owners who try to come in downtown. Apparently we have some [0:28:10, 0:28:12]: Old survey data as it relates to [0:28:13, 0:28:16]: other properties, uh the fire station in in the example. [0:28:16, 0:28:19]: The business owner had raised their complaint about surveying. [0:28:20, 0:28:23]: And maybe uh you all might since you've already done the rest of [0:28:23, 0:28:26]: The um surveying certainly would be nice if we [0:28:27, 0:28:29]: Especially with a transaction the city was involved in. [0:28:30, 0:28:31]: That we would have the surveying done. [0:28:32, 0:28:33]: Appropriately. [0:28:33, 0:28:36]: So if you've done the rest of them, it should be pretty easy to move along. [0:28:37, 0:28:38]: Uh a little bit further, is that correct? [0:28:40, 0:28:44]: Yeah, I mean we've we've established survey control for this area so we can [0:28:45, 0:28:58]: As long as, yeah, we could move out a little bit further and get more surveying and we need to work with your title your attorneys, make sure we can get all the title information, and then we can produce that survey as well. [0:28:59, 0:29:02]: Okay. And the secondary question, there was a [0:29:02, 0:29:07]: On this plan, which we've approved some time ago, I think we voted on initially in twenty [0:29:07, 0:29:10]: nineteen we were talking about a community [0:29:10, 0:29:13]: Uh garbage or [0:29:13, 0:29:14]: Dumpster area. [0:29:14, 0:29:18]: Talk can you talk about that a little bit and it might be helpful to show the public. [0:29:19, 0:29:23]: the actual uh color document of it. It it s looks good for us. [0:29:23, 0:29:25]: But so they know what we're talking about. [0:29:26, 0:29:36]: Sure. I don't have the color one pulled up. I can go back and find it, but it may take me a minute to refined. So I'll you you bring up a good point. Let me show you this. [0:29:37, 0:29:57]: So let me back up a little bit, sorry. So the trick when you have uh trash and dumpsters and everybody right now is using their own little trash can. Um the trick is you have to do it in a way that is accessible to everybody and that they will actually use it. Um and so [0:29:57, 0:30:17]: What we were tasked with was finding a place that worked where everyone can kind of get to it in a central central location. And the same was true with your deliveries. And so what we decided to do was to put it at this location here, which is not exactly [0:30:17, 0:30:37]: Center, but close to center to all the other businesses, and it's right next to the delivery area. And the reason that's important is uh your trucks that are coming in for delivery, they're big, they're heavy, but the same is true of your vehicle that's coming in to pick up. [0:30:37, 0:30:57]: Up the trash compactor area. It's big, it's heavy, and so you need an area that's got concrete and uh that's heavy-duty concrete, and you don't want to have to do it twice. So, what we did is we did a centralized area for drop-off deliveries for the big vehicles, and a centralized area, the same spot for the [0:30:57, 0:31:16]: dumpster enclosure and essentially located everything else. So that's the plan. Again, it'll help with cleaning up the area, making it look a lot nicer. And I think that's been the goal of the city throughout is everything they do, they want to make it nicer than it was. And this certainly accomplishes that. [0:31:18, 0:31:20]: Hey, uh Mr. Knighton, are you there? [0:31:23, 0:31:23]: Yes. [0:31:24, 0:31:27]: Okay. It's seeing as though we have [0:31:27, 0:31:37]: lost some time on this project over the past year, year and a half. What is it that we can do to make sure that this is on expedited? [0:31:37, 0:31:37]: Um [0:31:38, 0:31:39]: Time frame. [0:31:40, 0:31:42]: We're cutting this off at thirty days. [0:31:42, 0:31:47]: So we can get the bid documents ready and to get somebody out there. [0:31:47, 0:31:50]: actually doing the construction so we can have this project. [0:31:50, 0:32:10]: completed by the end of the year. What is it that we can do as a city to make sure this is our project, by the way. So I would think that uh we've been in constant communication with them. So we shouldn't have to go on an extended period in order to get these documents taken care of and review. [0:32:10, 0:32:18]: But the point is if it's 30 days, can we stick to 30 days? And then can we set a time frame today? [0:32:18, 0:32:23]: to get uh that we would shoot for to get uh construction started. [0:32:24, 0:32:28]: Well, I'd mention uh a couple of things related to that. One is the initial [0:32:28, 0:32:32]: component of this, we, you know, just received these construction documents. So the [0:32:33, 0:32:39]: Uh reviewers have to review it. Now obviously um uh it it is our project, we are familiar with it, and so [0:32:40, 0:32:44]: That should um be a reasonable time frame to turn around any comments back to [0:32:45, 0:32:55]: to Falcon and have them uh make any adjustments if needed per our review. So again, I I think that that can be expedited just based on familiarity and understanding of the project. [0:32:56, 0:32:58]: That's the first part. Second part related to [0:32:59, 0:33:07]: Um, you know, working on bid documents. I think it was alluded to by Falcon that they would be working on those bid documents almost simultaneously as we're going through the review. [0:33:08, 0:33:13]: Because much of the um the footprint and the foundation of the um [0:33:14, 0:33:14]: Uh [0:33:15, 0:33:21]: Alligate project is is fairly standard. If there's some adjustments that need to be made on the latter end of that process, they can do that. [0:33:21, 0:33:24]: But I think they could be done almost simultaneously with the [0:33:25, 0:33:27]: With the um plan review. [0:33:28, 0:33:32]: And then of course the bidding component of it, if we do a th if we do a 30 day bid. [0:33:32, 0:33:41]: Um with anything that comes with that, sometimes there are, you know, addendums done or questions to be asked. And I think that's where he was talking about the overall forty-five day period. [0:33:42, 0:33:43]: Is getting all of that done. [0:33:43, 0:33:50]: The one other thing that I want to mention with respect to this project and also the projects, a couple of projects that Mr. Aaron [0:33:50, 0:33:55]: Mr. Holzinger will speak about later is the American Rescue Plan Act Funds. [0:33:55, 0:33:57]: We did receive notice today. [0:33:58, 0:34:05]: that our funds are showing up in our the the Georgia portal, our sh our funds are showing up as submitted and awarded in that portal. [0:34:05, 0:34:07]: Which is right at five million dollars. [0:34:08, 0:34:09]: And so [0:34:09, 0:34:16]: There's that that process now they they're showing the funds that we've done what we needed to do and and now those funds are shown as submitted. [0:34:16, 0:34:25]: Um, and so I just want to keep that in mind as it relates to stormwater, water, and sewer projects. I would highly recommend to the council. [0:34:25, 0:34:29]: That for items such as this, where stormwater is a component [0:34:30, 0:34:31]: A major component of this project. [0:34:32, 0:34:37]: That we utilize those funds that have come from the federal government because specifically they can be used for sewer water. [0:34:38, 0:34:41]: Stormwater, um, broadband infrastructure, et cetera. [0:34:42, 0:34:44]: Well the the the question was [0:34:45, 0:34:49]: When can we expect construction to start? And I like a tight kind of [0:34:50, 0:34:56]: window so we can revisit this maybe have you all come back here because we want to get the project started. [0:34:57, 0:35:01]: Yes, and and and we're interested to get it started as well from a staff standpoint. [0:35:02, 0:35:04]: Um if you look at the review um [0:35:04, 0:35:07]: And I think Mr Mr Um [0:35:07, 0:35:09]: Lately alluded to the fact of [0:35:10, 0:35:17]: about September getting a constructor on the ground. We're probably looking at late September getting a construct construction team on the ground. [0:35:18, 0:35:25]: Um going through the um review process, the bid document or bid document development process, the bid process award. [0:35:26, 0:35:27]: And having a constructor on the ground. [0:35:28, 0:35:31]: Okay, I d I just want to say I want us to stick [0:35:31, 0:35:33]: To that timetable. [0:35:33, 0:35:41]: If at all possible, doing whatever we need to do to get this project uh moving forward. That's my point of view. Thank you. [0:35:42, 0:36:02]: Uh in reference to uh this, Mr. Palmer, you mentioned uh that you can potentially uh take up the surveying process for the rest of the uh the block there, the other properties. If that's the case, if that's the case, you mentioned meant working our attorneys, of course, or the attorneys. Uh please uh obviously keep Mr. Knight in the loop on [0:36:02, 0:36:09]: that as you kind of coordinate that effort. I really appreciate that. Okay. Any other uh Councilman Blount, go ahead please. [0:36:12, 0:36:13]: Yeah, Mayor, I don't know if um [0:36:14, 0:36:34]: Because I I can't see them with this on. I don't know if it's uh Mr. Washington or or Jeremy's on the uh attorney's on. I don't I don't know which one is on. Both of them are there. They're both there. Oh okay, yeah. Both here. Um and and and I'm in agreement with uh Mr. Alexander about you know expediting these projects as as as quick as possible, but [0:36:34, 0:36:35]: [2195.7, 2215.7]: Uh the question for the attorney is is that with the bid process that we have that we went to should is it best that we revert back to uh the process that we had so that we wouldn't have uh elected officials, we as elected body dictating which one would be 30 days and which one would be 45. [0:36:55, 0:37:05]: five. Is it best to revert back to the process that we had uh to keep it clean? Uh just just uh questioning on that. I just we don't need any more problems. [0:37:07, 0:37:12]: This is Jeremy. I'll take a stab at that council member Bulone. Yeah, I mean I just in general it's best that the [0:37:13, 0:37:23]: Council not weigh in on specifics of procurements other than to say put this out to bid. And that's why there's a procurement office, you know, with expertise in this area. And if they think thirty days or forty five or sixty. [0:37:24, 0:37:31]: Council can explain its desire to do this sooner rather than later and and let the you know, the professional staff fill in the details. [0:37:32, 0:37:52]: Okay. Now the question is because we had a 30-day process, um, which now uh I think a policy's been set uh to get a certain amount of bids for 45. Do we need as a council to revert back to the policies that we had in place and tweak what we need to tweak? Or are we going to [0:37:52, 0:37:58]: go per project and determine whether it's gonna be 30 days or 45 days out front. [0:37:59, 0:38:04]: And you know, as you know, one of the things we are working on and we're still knee deep in is revisions to procurement manual. I I think [0:38:05, 0:38:08]: My recommendation is project by project. Some stuff is gonna take longer. [0:38:09, 0:38:12]: to bid out than other projects. So I I would [0:38:13, 0:38:14]: recommend some flexibility there. [0:38:18, 0:38:19]: Okay. [0:38:19, 0:38:21]: Any other uh comments, council? [0:38:28, 0:38:34]: Okay, uh Councilman Barber, there you go. I I just I've I'll get you to you in a second, Councilman Thomas. Councilman Barber, go ahead, please. [0:38:36, 0:38:45]: Yes. Um so this question is for Mr. Knighton. Should we expect a recommendation to a war to come to the council? Um [0:38:46, 0:38:47]: In September. [0:38:50, 0:38:55]: Yeah I I would think so, yes. Based on the schedule that was mentioned, yes. Mm-hmm. Okay. [0:38:55, 0:38:57]: So can we just for the record? [0:38:58, 0:38:59]: Council should expect. [0:39:00, 0:39:01]: The recommendation [0:39:01, 0:39:03]: To award a contract. [0:39:04, 0:39:06]: But our September [0:39:06, 0:39:08]: City council meeting. [0:39:08, 0:39:11]: Or are you saying the work session? [0:39:12, 0:39:13]: That's [0:39:14, 0:39:21]: That's a two week difference. I I'd I'd I I would probably say based on schedule, probably the council meeting. [0:39:23, 0:39:24]: Okay. [0:39:24, 0:39:26]: Right, probably the council meeting, you know. [0:39:27, 0:39:27]: Yeah and the [0:39:28, 0:39:36]: Assuming, you know, there's not something, you know, with addendums to the bid or questions or something like that. But I would imag I would I would think the September council meeting. [0:39:36, 0:39:38]: Okay, so that is three months from now. [0:39:39, 0:39:39]: Uh-huh. [0:39:40, 0:39:40]: Right. [0:39:41, 0:39:42]: Thank you. [0:39:43, 0:39:44]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:39:45, 0:39:47]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [0:39:47, 0:39:51]: My question, uh, it's really not about the alleyway. I'm sorta [0:39:52, 0:39:56]: uh okay with the uh questions that's been asked and and the answers [0:39:56, 0:39:58]: That's been rendered. [0:39:58, 0:40:02]: What I'd like to do right here, Mayor, if I may, uh speak to the um [0:40:04, 0:40:20]: American Rescue Plan Act, Mr. Nightingale alluded to that. And the only reason I want to bring this up that there's about four items uh on the agenda uh that Mr. Aaron would speak to. And I just wanted just to try to expedite some of this time, I just wanted to [0:40:20, 0:40:24]: Um, emphasize the fact in Mr. Nine that [0:40:24, 0:40:28]: All four of these projects that are listed here on the agenda. [0:40:28, 0:40:31]: Um they are reimbursable. [0:40:31, 0:40:36]: uh to the uh American Rescue Plan Act. Is that correct? [0:40:37, 0:40:40]: Yes, I believe they all are. Yes, or would be. Mm-hmm. [0:40:40, 0:41:00]: And I just want to sort of just bring that up at this point. So I know there's another item before Mr. Aaron come on, but just to uh expedite the time, I just want to sort of get that out front uh for the council. And I'm glad that you mentioned that uh in reference to the Alloy project, but I think this is going to help us to [0:41:01, 0:41:07]: uh exped expedite the time in this discussion, knowing that the fact that uh all of this is reimbursable. [0:41:08, 0:41:09]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:41:09, 0:41:10]: Welcome, no problem. [0:41:11, 0:41:15]: Uh any other comments from the council on this particular project? [0:41:15, 0:41:23]: Airport Tim out there. Go ahead, please. I got one more. I'm sorry. Mr. Light said five million. I thought it was nine million. Is that the initial deposit? [0:41:23, 0:41:31]: That is correct. The the initial is half. It's called a tranche, and you get half of it. And then I believe at the end of this year, December thirty by December thirty-one. [0:41:32, 0:41:37]: you get the other half. I could send you more information about that, but yes, it's it's done in in uh partial [0:41:38, 0:41:39]: Um [0:41:39, 0:41:43]: uh awards. So you get half fifty percent and then the other fifty percent later. [0:41:44, 0:41:44]: Thank you. [0:41:46, 0:41:53]: All right. If there are no more of the council comments on this project, uh Mr. Palmer, any further uh uh comments or presentations that you have for us? [0:41:54, 0:42:14]: Sure, I think it'd be good to give you a quick update on the schedule and where we are on the bidding for the road project. Um East Atlanta improvements. Uh we have had our pre bid, maybe skip, you can talk about this as well. We've already had our pre bid. Uh bid uh questions have been answered, and I believe it's June. [0:42:14, 0:42:20]: July eighth, ninth, July eighth, the physics is yeah. [0:42:21, 0:42:25]: So we'll get bids July eighth on that project. [0:42:26, 0:42:32]: So July eighth, the due pro uh project bids on both those streets. You're talking about Lee Street expansion and least and east Atlanta is what you're referring to. [0:42:33, 0:42:34]: That is correct. Okay. [0:42:35, 0:42:37]: Yeah. [0:42:37, 0:42:42]: Uh any uh comments from the council in reference to what uh Mr. Palmer just uh mentioned. [0:42:45, 0:42:46]: Yeah it's [0:42:46, 0:42:53]: Not okay. Anything else, Mr. Palmerdy? Oh, I'm sorry, Mayorpa uh uh Councilman Thomas. I'm sorry, I have to scroll up and scroll up and down. Go ahead. [0:42:54, 0:42:55]: Thank you. Um [0:42:56, 0:42:56]: Yeah. [0:42:57, 0:43:02]: Mr. Palmer, I I I want I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, but I think it's important [0:43:02, 0:43:07]: That uh on the Lee Street and the East Atlanta Road turn lane. [0:43:08, 0:43:12]: Uh I I think it's important and I'm I just wanted to bring this up since you introduced that. [0:43:13, 0:43:15]: the the timeline [0:43:15, 0:43:17]: Фром старт фінніш. [0:43:17, 0:43:22]: I I think the council need to and I sort of put something out to the council a couple of weeks ago. [0:43:23, 0:43:26]: Uh to remind us that we need to stay focused on this. [0:43:26, 0:43:30]: Uh the timeline from start to finish. [0:43:30, 0:43:34]: Uh and Mr. Nan you can weigh in as well. And I think we just need to be conscious of [0:43:35, 0:43:37]: Um getting that started. [0:43:38, 0:43:40]: Um and try to finish. [0:43:41, 0:43:41]: Mm. [0:43:42, 0:43:46]: Within a reasonable time in twenty twenty two. [0:43:46, 0:43:48]: Because it's it's very important, I think. [0:43:49, 0:43:51]: For the uh success. [0:43:52, 0:43:55]: of the uh amphitheater uh project [0:43:56, 0:44:01]: So just briefly, um, anyone, Mr. Nine um [0:44:01, 0:44:04]: Mr. Palmer, could we saw to just um [0:44:04, 0:44:07]: speak to the council and and understand that [0:44:07, 0:44:12]: We have to get started at a certain time uh in twenty twenty one. [0:44:12, 0:44:15]: In order for us to have this completed. [0:44:15, 0:44:18]: uh by some time in in in twenty twenty two [0:44:19, 0:44:22]: Taking in consideration, we don't know what the winter months bring. [0:44:24, 0:44:25]: Had [0:44:25, 0:44:31]: Uh councilman Thomas, I'll I'll attempt to address from my standpoint and obviously I defer to the engineers on this. [0:44:31, 0:44:38]: Um related to uh those particular projects, the the full right turn lane from North uh Henry down to Love Street. [0:44:38, 0:44:40]: Greast Atlanta and then the um [0:44:41, 0:44:45]: The reconfiguration of the intersection at Lee Street and then some additional [0:44:45, 0:44:48]: Um uh sidewalking on Lee Street as well. [0:44:49, 0:45:03]: Um the uh obviously with the amphitheater and expected fall events uh for this year, um basically September or excuse me, the end of August, September, October, what's expected? [0:45:03, 0:45:11]: Um and then normally uh obviously an amphitheater is uh not having those types of events in November, December. [0:45:11, 0:45:15]: January, February and somewhere into March as well for most places. [0:45:16, 0:45:22]: And so given that, um, I would imagine that whatever preliminary work that could be done. [0:45:23, 0:45:32]: with um uh contractors without disrupting any traffic flow um in that area in the area during the that period of time in the fall. [0:45:33, 0:45:37]: That is what we are aiming for with any contractor that's ultimately awarded. [0:45:37, 0:45:44]: um the bid. Obviously there's some surveying work I think would have to be done and some other things uh uh [0:45:44, 0:45:49]: prior to actual construction. But even with construction, those roads [0:45:49, 0:45:52]: If I'm correct, are gonna still be open. [0:45:52, 0:45:57]: But you don't want to have um that level of construction going on with expected [0:45:57, 0:46:02]: uh large crowds. So I would expect that most of that construction would take place. [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: Um, just after the fall. [0:46:05, 0:46:06]: uh into um [0:46:06, 0:46:13]: into uh the February March timeframe. Now of course you run into winter too, which is which is can be an issue. [0:46:13, 0:46:18]: uh for construction. But I'll I'll you know obviously defer to the to the engineers to [0:46:19, 0:46:20]: I provide their commentary as well. [0:46:21, 0:46:24]: Well, Mr. Night, the reason why I'm sort of bringing this up now [0:46:24, 0:46:27]: I don't want us to wait. [0:46:28, 0:46:29]: Until [0:46:31, 0:46:32]: September [0:46:32, 0:46:33]: October. [0:46:33, 0:46:34]: To start. [0:46:35, 0:46:39]: And uh and Mr. Palmer can speak to this, whatever preliminary work. [0:46:39, 0:46:41]: Да нет, так. [0:46:42, 0:46:43]: У [0:46:43, 0:46:44]: Let that move forward. [0:46:45, 0:46:46]: Yeah, you know. [0:46:48, 0:46:50]: October first, if you will. [0:46:51, 0:46:51]: Um [0:46:52, 0:46:55]: October, November, December, January, February, March. [0:46:55, 0:46:56]: February. [0:46:57, 0:47:00]: For me, the project need to be uh complete. [0:47:00, 0:47:02]: by February of twenty twenty two. [0:47:03, 0:47:04]: But whatever's going to take. [0:47:05, 0:47:06]: To do that. [0:47:07, 0:47:08]: Uh [0:47:08, 0:47:15]: That's what I'm in favor of. So, whatever preliminary work that needs to take place, let's get that started. Now, let's not wait. [0:47:16, 0:47:16]: Um [0:47:17, 0:47:17]: Whatever. [0:47:18, 0:47:20]: I just move forward now to make sure that [0:47:21, 0:47:21]: Um [0:47:22, 0:47:23]: That is completed by [0:47:24, 0:47:25]: February. [0:47:25, 0:47:26]: Oh [0:47:26, 0:47:28]: Twenty twenty two'cause [0:47:28, 0:47:33]: And I and I and I've spoken to you, Mr. Night, about this offline. My concern about [0:47:34, 0:47:35]: uh construction [0:47:36, 0:47:40]: During the time when we need to be promoting the Amazil, and that's my concern. [0:47:44, 0:47:46]: Okay. Any other comments, Council? [0:47:47, 0:47:51]: Can Mr. Palmer speak to that timeline? [0:47:52, 0:48:12]: Sure, I'm gonna skip uh Leighton I is gonna be responsible from our office of of managing the contractor, setting the schedules, um, approving all the invoices, so he can probably answer that a little bit more direct uh than I can, but um [0:48:12, 0:48:32]: Once we get the the bids in, we select the contractor, we will definitely need to to work with them on that schedule um and work around as best we can your events uh that are that are planned. I mean we do need utilities have to be moved, uh some of those kind of things that aren't really gonna impact [0:48:32, 0:48:38]: traffic. Um but skip maybe you can uh kind of weigh in on that. [0:48:38, 0:48:39]: Well, [0:48:50, 0:48:52]: is the response of a low bidder. [0:48:54, 0:48:59]: We'll we'll issue a preconstruc or set up a pre construction and issue notice to proceed right away. [0:49:00, 0:49:04]: But this project uh has a nine month duration period. [0:49:07, 0:49:19]: Okay. Okay, well what let me ask you this, I'm sorry. What what do you mean nine month duration? That means from start to finish? Is that what you're referring to? Is that what that means? When a contractor bids a project, he's bidding time and money. [0:49:20, 0:49:21]: And uh [0:49:22, 0:49:27]: We estimated that this project with normal procedures is a nine month project. [0:49:28, 0:49:29]: All right. [0:49:30, 0:49:31]: Right, uh [0:49:32, 0:49:35]: All right. Um Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. You had your hand up first. [0:49:39, 0:49:50]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Uh um I guess whoever can answer this, uh when we're talking about surveying uh over on uh Lee Street, when we're talking about surveying [0:49:51, 0:50:05]: uh and doing whatever preliminaries need to be done over there. We we as this council, I think that we all agree that the scope of work should include uh the whole Lee Street uh and the beautification of Lee Street uh with this project. [0:50:05, 0:50:11]: Uh is that is that in the scope that we're doing right now when it comes to Lee Street? [0:50:12, 0:50:15]: Yes, it's it's being bid that way. It's landscaping everything. [0:50:16, 0:50:22]: Okay, from from from corner all the way down to the Henry uh North Henry, just corner to corner out the whole Lee Street. [0:50:24, 0:50:25]: Yeah, okay, thank you. [0:50:26, 0:50:28]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [0:50:32, 0:50:33]: Um so for the role. [0:50:34, 0:50:39]: project since that solicitation is already out and is due to close july eighth. [0:50:40, 0:50:45]: Can we expect to receive the notice of award or notice um [0:50:46, 0:50:51]: not notice award, but the recommendation uh to approve an award. [0:50:51, 0:50:52]: Um [0:50:52, 0:50:55]: by our August council meeting. [0:50:56, 0:50:59]: That's it's totally up to your procurement department. [0:51:00, 0:51:01]: Let's enlighten. [0:51:03, 0:51:06]: I would expect so, yes. In in [0:51:06, 0:51:10]: The timeline mentioned of nine months, August. [0:51:10, 0:51:12]: Through March would be eight months. [0:51:13, 0:51:14]: Just you know. [0:51:15, 0:51:18]: Since that was mentioned, but yes, yes, but always certainly. [0:51:18, 0:51:25]: Okay, so we'll expect the recommendation to award a contract for the road project at our August meeting. [0:51:26, 0:51:28]: And the notice to proceed should happen. [0:51:29, 0:51:31]: Shortly thereafter, within that [0:51:31, 0:51:33]: Couple of days after. Okay. Correct. [0:51:35, 0:51:38]: Councilman Thomas, you're still unmuted, so you I think you have probably un another question. [0:51:39, 0:51:40]: Uh uh uh. [0:51:40, 0:51:48]: I I just want to just make sure that we meet these timelines. You know, originally uh I heard it was five months and now it's nine months. [0:51:48, 0:51:50]: The point is though. [0:51:50, 0:51:53]: Is making the start. Whatever preliminary [0:51:54, 0:51:58]: Um, efforts that need to be made, and I'm saying this to Mr. Knight. [0:51:58, 0:52:01]: Um, you know, with procurement, whatever. [0:52:01, 0:52:05]: But for the and I can't speak for the full council, but just for me. [0:52:06, 0:52:06]: Um [0:52:07, 0:52:09]: Твоє твені чу. [0:52:10, 0:52:13]: Помі із єрда. [0:52:13, 0:52:15]: should be blooming. [0:52:16, 0:52:17]: Prospero. [0:52:18, 0:52:19]: And [0:52:20, 0:52:22]: With construction or East Atlanta. [0:52:23, 0:52:25]: And Lee Street during that time. [0:52:26, 0:52:28]: That is chaos and confusion. [0:52:29, 0:52:32]: And that's a recipe for disaster. So [0:52:32, 0:52:34]: I'm saying that to say Mr. Nine. [0:52:35, 0:52:36]: Um [0:52:36, 0:52:40]: We ni we need to get busy with procurement to make sure that these timelines [0:52:41, 0:52:42]: I'm moving. Um [0:52:43, 0:52:44]: As fast as possible. [0:52:45, 0:52:46]: Thank you. [0:52:46, 0:52:46]: Right. [0:52:47, 0:52:49]: Councilman uh Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [0:52:52, 0:52:58]: Thank you, Mayor. I know um Mr. Knighton just mentioned uh well, he agreed that August um council meeting. [0:52:59, 0:53:03]: would be the meeting that they would present the recommendation to award. [0:53:03, 0:53:10]: Of course, if um staff is able to bring this sooner, I'd much rather see it sooner rather than later. [0:53:10, 0:53:11]: Um [0:53:11, 0:53:12]: Yeah. [0:53:12, 0:53:14]: Until our August meeting. [0:53:14, 0:53:15]: If you're right. [0:53:16, 0:53:19]: then sooner. Please bring it forward as soon as possible. [0:53:19, 0:53:26]: We absol we we absolutely will. Thank you for mentioning that. We absolutely will. And if it's possible to bring it at the latter July meeting. [0:53:27, 0:53:32]: Um we may be compressed in terms of agenda schedule, but if we can do that reasonably well. [0:53:32, 0:53:37]: We would want to do that to get to ensure that the project moves forward as quickly as possible. [0:53:37, 0:53:38]: Thank you. [0:53:39, 0:53:41]: Uh Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [0:53:41, 0:53:45]: Yeah, while we got you guys on the phone, uh as we were reviewing this project. [0:53:45, 0:53:48]: Uh uh earlier on we were talking about [0:53:48, 0:53:52]: That we're gonna encompass uh the multi-use trails. [0:53:52, 0:53:55]: Everywhere where there was space available. [0:53:56, 0:53:58]: On North Lee Street, on South Lee Street. [0:53:59, 0:54:03]: And uh East Atlanta Road. I just wanna make sure [0:54:03, 0:54:11]: But we're gonna use the black mass post arm signals at both of the intersections. All of that is incorporated in this bid. Is that correct? [0:54:12, 0:54:32]: We yeah, so that for the pedestrians uh and the the walkways, everywhere we could do the multi-use pathways, we've done it. Um even squeezed in some areas that it was really tight, uh, but we've made it work. Um so yes, we have we have added uh the at least an eight-foot multi-use. [0:54:32, 0:54:45]: path uh where we can where we can't we've got a six foot uh in that area so you're correct uh mayor pro tem we have we have added all that information uh to the plans and it's in the bid documents [0:54:45, 0:54:50]: All right, so those intersections are gonna look real sharp, right, with the pads and with the [0:54:50, 0:54:53]: Uh black must mastarm signals. [0:54:55, 0:55:15]: The black mast arm signals we've uh that is something that is uh because the the signals that were approved by GDOT are not the black post op of black mast arm, so that's something that we're having to work through with the contractors um because g dot originally approved the other other models. Um but anyway we're working through that. [0:55:15, 0:55:17]: We'll work through that as best we can with with G Doc. [0:55:18, 0:55:22]: Let's make it happen. Want it to look sharp. Thank you. Yes, sir. [0:55:22, 0:55:32]: Appreciate it. Uh Mr. Palmer. Okay. Is there another project, sir? I think uh we're done on this particular project of talking with questioning this project. Is there something else? [0:55:32, 0:55:52]: The last one uh kind of want to go through before we go through it, I'll take you back. Uh just the gateway signs and the pedestrian signs and everything uh around the city. Um this is the big plan uh that we had done for the city. Um, the blue stars, uh the [0:55:52, 0:56:12]: Yellow stars, they're all different types of signs. I don't want to go back through every detail of it. Um, and then this was the uh the the little color renderings that we had done for everybody. I just want to remind everybody what we had chosen. You got uh the city council had chosen the one I'm circling now for the [0:56:12, 0:56:15]: Gateways which is number two. [0:56:16, 0:56:29]: And then for the wayfinding, which are the still large brick signs, but not as large as the gateway signs. These are more directional wayfinding signs. We have chosen number one. [0:56:30, 0:56:50]: And then when you get closer into downtown area for the uh the signs that you're going to see around downtown, that are your road signs, your street signs, your signs that are kind of around the amphitheater, you get the city council had chosen it chosen this one. We've gone through now. [0:56:50, 0:57:10]: And we're ready to turn in take these pretty little color renderings and actually their real design plans now. And we're ready to turn these in as well, most likely tomorrow or or or Thursday. But this kind of shows you what the signs will look like. [0:57:10, 0:57:20]: like around downtown and around the amphitheater. You have a stop sign here with a street sign on the top, with a black post, decorative post. [0:57:21, 0:57:41]: And then this is the sign that you'll also have that's got the city of Stockbridge uh logo at the top. That'll have locations for the amphitheater for parking for Merrill Manders. And these signs here, there's little hooks here and here that you can just keep adding these signs as you go down when you get closer. [0:57:40, 0:58:00]: And you have more things that you need to show signage on. There'll be different colors, kind of going back to the color plan we had earlier. Different colors, for instance, parking will be one color, uh, government buildings will be another color, uh, that kind of thing. This is a more detailed look of it with all the different fixtures. [0:58:00, 0:58:16]: that go into it. The general notes that'll be part of the bid. I wanted to jump right into this one. This is the big one. This is the wayfinding sign. It's this one here. [0:58:18, 0:58:38]: Uh so it's a large sign that kind of greets you when you come into the city. Uh you'll notice on this one we didn't have anything in this general area uh of the sign um when we and it was about nine feet tall, ten feet wide. Uh when we got into the actual [0:58:38, 0:58:57]: Design of it. I can't remember who at the city had mentioned putting in a message board here. And so we went back and we redesigned a little bit of it. So now it's nine feet, 10 inches tall, and it's still the same 12-foot width. [0:58:58, 0:59:18]: Let me back out again, but in the middle of it, uh, you now have the same Welcome to City Stockbridge where community connects, and then here you'll have a message board, uh, TV, the same style that you're putting around City Hall, that you can have different events, you can have different uh sponsors, you can have different things here. [0:59:18, 0:59:21]: that are welcoming you to the city of of Stockbridge. [0:59:21, 0:59:22]: Um [0:59:23, 0:59:35]: So that's what we've we've kind of changed a little bit based on some city recommendations here, uh made a little bit taller and then again added that that piece to it. Uh the last one. [0:59:35, 0:59:55]: This is the one that's more of a kind of you've already entered the city, and then these are the signs, the wayfinding signs that are throughout the city that direct you to city hall, to the amphitheater, to the library, to your parks, to that kind of thing. So these are ready to go. We met with Lin. [0:59:55, 1:00:15]: nail about how we're gonna start bid these. Uh and the idea is to send out these three signs to forbid to get the cost of the signs themselves. So what the signs will cost. And then we will determine how many [1:00:15, 1:00:35]: We want to do of each type of sign. And then we will do the site plans. So each we'll have to we'll know what it costs sinus. So then when we go to each location, we'll have to do a small site plan. You may have to acquire some easements for some of these larger signs and put some electricity or power. [1:00:35, 1:00:48]: if you want to uplight them. But that'll be after we've kind of determined what the cost of the sign will actually be and select the contractor. Go back to these, these are not as important with that. [1:00:49, 1:01:09]: uh again these are are what you're going to see downtown city hall area around the amp theater area this is the more stop sign you'll see there um but these won't necessarily have to have a site plan and they're not going to be lit and you're not going to have electrical and utilities and all that kind of thing to work with. This is a very simple sign to install and a very simple [1:01:09, 1:01:10]: sign or replace. [1:01:12, 1:01:32]: Hey, Mr. Palmer, I've lost count. So on the big signs to enter to introduce or to welcome people into the city of Stockbridge, how many of those big signs are we talking about? We're talking about four or five of them? Or how many? Uh we on the original map, we I think identified at least six of them. Uh I don't [1:01:32, 1:01:52]: Don't know that you need to or will want to do all six at once, which is why we kind of want to figure out: all right, what's the cost of this sign? And then you guys, the city council can come back and say, Okay, this sign costs, I'm throwing out a number here,$40,000. We want to do three of them. Um, and [1:01:52, 1:02:12]: And and and here's where we want to put those three. Go produce the site plans now to show where that is. Work with the attorney to get the necessary easement if you need it on that location. So I think what we need to do is let's get these priced out, get a contractor on board that'll tell us exactly what this should cost, or he's gonna [1:02:12, 1:02:32]: What they can do the cost for, um, select the lowest responsible bidder for that, and then we can move forward at that point and know exactly how many signs we want to do of each type. Now, again, these are not going to be super expensive, and I think these we just need to go ahead and produce the site, the overall master plan of the amphitheater and [1:02:32, 1:02:37]: downtown area and say this is where we're putting this many signs and this is what they're gonna this is where they're gonna be. [1:02:39, 1:02:47]: Okay. And do you have an idea uh uh just a rough idea of the timeline to get all this done is sometime this fall water imagine or into the [1:02:47, 1:02:49]: Yeah, uh [1:02:49, 1:03:09]: Again, we're ready to go ahead and meet with Lindell and get these uh these two large wayfinding signs and the gateway signs. We're ready to go ahead and meet with her, uh start the procurement process on that for what it will cost us to to get the contractor on board to build those signs. Once we know that, again, we'll go directly into [1:03:09, 1:03:17]: Into here's the three, four, five, six, eight, ten locations we want to put them now that we know exactly how much they cost. [1:03:18, 1:03:21]: All right, sir. I appreciate it. Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:03:28, 1:03:32]: Okay, so will there be a solicitation or advertisement for these? [1:03:34, 1:03:36]: Uh for bidding for procurement. [1:03:38, 1:03:55]: Yeah. Yeah, yes ma'am. So uh Lynn, we'll put these we'll we'll put it out for bid with these construction details uh to get a and then we'll select the contractor based on lowest responsible bid. Um that's fine. That's fine. [1:03:56, 1:04:03]: Yes. I think everybody needs to mute who's not speaking. [1:04:08, 1:04:10]: I'm sorry, go ahead, sir. [1:04:11, 1:04:12]: Mr. Palmer. [1:04:12, 1:04:20]: I wanted to know about advertisements for these and when we should expect that they would be posted and advertised. [1:04:21, 1:04:41]: Um we are gonna turn these in uh to you guys this week. Um so it'll be good to get uh at least one a round of comments back from your staff, um making sure that everyone's okay with them, and then I think at that point we're ready to start the uh big [1:04:41, 1:05:01]: documents and and get with Lindell on her setting the schedule or the city setting the schedule for the uh the advertisements and bid award um so whatever whatever program process uh the city wants to use um for that but it would follow the same typical procedure [1:05:01, 1:05:05]: [3906.6, 3908.8]: Okay, so Mr. Knighton. [1:05:09, 1:05:17]: Can we expect that the solicitation documents for the finding or the installations [1:05:19, 1:05:25]: of these wayfinding signage. Can we expect that the advertisement will be posted? [1:05:25, 1:05:26]: By mid July. [1:05:27, 1:05:28]: You can give us a date. [1:05:28, 1:05:31]: 'Cause if I give you a date it's almost as if, you know, kinda [1:05:31, 1:05:32]: Pressuring you. [1:05:33, 1:05:39]: Well the uh I they they haven't turned it into us yet, so we gotta see what [1:05:40, 1:05:42]: That looks like so I mean I [1:05:44, 1:05:50]: I would say mid to late July if I mean I would say late July if not sooner because we gotta look at what the [1:05:51, 1:05:52]: Um [1:05:53, 1:06:01]: what they provide to us and then review it. So I think mid-July, yes, but then put out uh probably late July. [1:06:02, 1:06:07]: Okay, so advertising um will be posted by the end of July. [1:06:07, 1:06:10]: Correct. That's what I would have envisioned, yes. [1:06:10, 1:06:11]: Thank you. [1:06:13, 1:06:16]: Council, any other comments? Um Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [1:06:16, 1:06:22]: Yes, sir. Um I these these signs are well they're overdue and they need to go out there. [1:06:22, 1:06:25]: I believe we're gonna be able to use wholetale mole tax. [1:06:26, 1:06:32]: uh which we have in the bank for them. My my recommendation would be to move forward as many as we possibly could. [1:06:32, 1:06:39]: Because they need to be there. We we we we just never had a directional sign to Merrill Manders or [1:06:39, 1:06:43]: Anywhere. So it certainly would uh as we [1:06:43, 1:06:45]: Uh, these are tourism tools. [1:06:45, 1:06:48]: And they're very much encouraged by the tourism bureau. [1:06:48, 1:07:08]: uh as well. So these monies uh should be uh ready uh in our treasury in the hotel motel tax in order to do that. Uh as we move down these signs, uh Mr. Palmer, uh we were having a discussion, actually email exchange about uh Reeves Creek Trail, uh position for uh trail usage and stuff like that. [1:07:08, 1:07:12]: that uh some signs to uh signs actually to go on these [1:07:12, 1:07:16]: Uh the ones I guess when you're already in the city, the medium size. [1:07:17, 1:07:20]: To direct people to uh our Reese Creek Trail. [1:07:22, 1:07:42]: Right. We actually um believe we've got some of those, these blue stars here and here. Um we we we kind of anticipated having some of those and I agree with you. That's that's one of the things that is a really nice feature in the city uh that a lot of people may not know about. [1:07:42, 1:07:45]: Uh is a Reeves Creek Trail, and I think that's something we definitely need to highlight. [1:07:46, 1:07:47]: Okay. [1:07:47, 1:07:50]: Well that that that certainly would uh [1:07:50, 1:07:52]: be much appreciated in terms of [1:07:53, 1:07:53]: Um [1:07:54, 1:08:06]: that particular and then actually on the trail itself actually walked it uh over the weekend you know i know when you go out to lake spivey or you go up to panola mountain it'll say they'll have a sign that says [1:08:06, 1:08:12]: a quarter mile to or you know, however memory feet to um [1:08:12, 1:08:15]: to the next trailhead or to tie street. [1:08:15, 1:08:26]: or to uh so you're on the trail you don't exactly know where you are. Uh what we would be using the medium sized signs for that, or is there another option to use along the trail? [1:08:27, 1:08:28]: Um [1:08:28, 1:08:33]: Well, let me go back to this one, which is what we kind of originally were looking at. [1:08:34, 1:08:54]: So some of these signs, and again, this is the one that we're using downtown. This one here, which is more of your street sign, it's seven and a half feet tall. There are other ones like this one that is four and a half feet, 4.4, and this is four feet tall. [1:08:54, 1:09:14]: This is something that you would typically put at your trail head at the beginning of the trail. It kind of talks about the trail, what's there, how long it is. And so this is something you could put at the beginning. This may be a little too ornate, too big for along the trail. [1:09:14, 1:09:34]: But the same we could use the same post, the same decorative post, uh, and and come up with a a uh something that's a a marker, even if it's not like this, it could be more of a square on the post kind of thing that says your mile marker, this and and your [1:09:34, 1:09:35]: Nearing uh [1:09:35, 1:09:38]: you're nearing Martin Luther King Junior Trail or something like that. [1:09:39, 1:09:43]: Yeah, I think what we see over at Panola is there's a single pole. [1:09:43, 1:09:50]: And then they have um the the kind of like that. So I think that might be appropriate. So maybe if you could indicate [1:09:50, 1:09:57]: what that looks like because we certainly need that along the trail because I was trying to figure out where I was on the trail at some point. [1:09:57, 1:10:02]: And how much further I had to go as I was walking it. So that would be great. Thank you. [1:10:03, 1:10:23]: Okay. And that's that's not something that we had in our current scope of work, what we were doing. We can certainly do that. Like our current scope would be in with these big gateways, these way findings, and then the downtown around the amphitheater, this kind of stuff. Um but it's it's again, it's all theming. How do we think? [1:10:23, 1:10:35]: theme it and how do we get people from point A to point B and it's easy enough to add in these smaller pedestrian when you're walking those type of level signs as well. We just need to to do it. [1:10:38, 1:10:40]: Thank you, sir. Councilman uh woman barber, go ahead, please. [1:10:43, 1:10:51]: Thank you, Mira. Really quick, I wanted to ask Mr. Knighton, is there a timeline already established for these major projects? [1:10:52, 1:10:54]: A table or something. [1:10:58, 1:11:05]: I'm sorry, a timeline for the major projects. A all of these major projects are is there a timeline already prepared? [1:11:06, 1:11:07]: Mm-hmm. [1:11:08, 1:11:12]: No, there's not. Um we in the right way. Well we can [1:11:13, 1:11:17]: When the install or construction will begin, when is it just [1:11:17, 1:11:17]: Mm. [1:11:18, 1:11:19]: Actually. [1:11:19, 1:11:23]: Can we put together something like that if we don't have something like that already? [1:11:23, 1:11:24]: Yes, in fact uh [1:11:29, 1:11:30]: Yes, in fact [1:11:31, 1:11:32]: Carl with Kickin' Wood. [1:11:33, 1:11:41]: And I've kind of talked about that. A is what's kind of called a Gantt chart where you have all of the major projects in there and it has timeline from when it's expected. [1:11:42, 1:11:46]: provide constru um uh construction documents to bid [1:11:46, 1:11:53]: um actual construction start to completion. Yes, we can do that. And I'll I will put that together with with um Carl. [1:11:54, 1:11:56]: Um, for all of our major projects. [1:11:56, 1:11:57]: Thank you. [1:12:00, 1:12:04]: Any other comments, council, before we move on? Anybody else? [1:12:05, 1:12:16]: I don't see anything else. Okay, so on that note, if uh I think we're I think we're done there, uh Mr. Palmer, unless you have something else, sir, to close out your your briefing. [1:12:17, 1:12:28]: I certainly just we appreciate working with the city, always have, and uh our headquarters are here in the city of Soton Ridge. Uh so we definitely appreciate and hope everybody had a great summer and stay safe. [1:12:28, 1:12:30]: Outstanding. Appreciate it, sir. Thank you. [1:12:30, 1:12:39]: All right, take it now. I'm fine. Bye-bye. Uh we're gonna go into old business now. Council consideration to approve T Splos project list. Mr. Knighton, please. [1:12:41, 1:12:44]: Yes, Mayor and Council. Oops, yes, Mayor, Council. [1:12:45, 1:12:56]: Um we wanted to revisit the item with respect to the um uh T Sploss list. In fact, uh there was a a meeting today of Henry County where they discussed [1:12:57, 1:12:59]: Um a um overall [1:12:59, 1:13:02]: project list and they also s discussed [1:13:03, 1:13:04]: Uh, some items related to [1:13:05, 1:13:07]: Uh, the overall transportation's closed. [1:13:08, 1:13:14]: There there was some preliminary estimates about two hundred four million dollars now up down to two hundred and forty-five million dollars. [1:13:15, 1:13:20]: And the conversation in in centered around uh joint projects. [1:13:20, 1:13:27]: uh four cities uh in including the city of stockbridge with respect to what that looks like. [1:13:28, 1:13:35]: Um if there there are a couple of different ways that it could be done with the T Splost if if all of the cities are on board. [1:13:36, 1:13:39]: Um you can you can have you know the the full amount [1:13:40, 1:13:47]: the full penny. And then I think if this if the county wants to go separately, it's it's a it's three quarters or seventy-five cents. [1:13:47, 1:13:50]: There were a couple of things that were discussed with respect to [1:13:51, 1:13:52]: The um [1:13:52, 1:13:54]: T'es blast. [1:13:54, 1:13:58]: And what that scenario could look like if it was two hundred and [1:13:58, 1:14:02]: Uh forty five million dollars at the Mag store. I think it was a hundred and ninety. [1:14:02, 1:14:05]: a million if um that did not come to fruition. [1:14:06, 1:14:08]: Uh in the same way or the county wanted to do it on their own. [1:14:09, 1:14:12]: Uh, I do have and actually asked for this afternoon the [1:14:13, 1:14:13]: Um [1:14:14, 1:14:16]: presentation list that the county [1:14:17, 1:14:20]: Um provided and I can I can certainly show that. [1:14:20, 1:14:21]: Um [1:14:22, 1:14:22]: Mm. [1:14:22, 1:14:25]: to the council and that may that may help to illuminate [1:14:26, 1:14:31]: Uh some items. Let's see here. If I would if I can be allowed to share my screen. [1:14:32, 1:14:34]: Absolutely, sir. There you go. Okay. [1:14:36, 1:14:40]: And this was from this morning with the county. I'll show this one if everyone can see that. [1:14:41, 1:14:42]: That's the collection with an eye. [1:14:43, 1:14:49]: Can you make it a little can you make it a little larger so we can see it, but can you make it a little larger at all? Uh I don't know. Let's see. [1:14:49, 1:14:52]: Oops, well it goes from one slab to the other. Let me see here. [1:14:57, 1:14:58]: Well, starts to [1:15:04, 1:15:09]: That probably is not better, is it? No, no sir, it's not. Okay, let's see if we can do this. [1:15:11, 1:15:12]: All right. [1:15:12, 1:15:13]: And that [1:15:19, 1:15:23]: That's the best probably the best I can get it given the with the slides configured. [1:15:24, 1:15:27]: So be it. But you'll see you'll see with the IGA the full amount. [1:15:28, 1:15:32]: Um it with the IGA is one percent of one penny tax. [1:15:33, 1:15:39]: Uh, without is uh point seven five. So you see the difference in terms of the overall total collection at two hundred and forty five million. [1:15:40, 1:15:45]: versus 183750. Now in order to do the IGA, obviously you have to have [1:15:46, 1:15:48]: certain jurisdictions that approve [1:15:48, 1:15:53]: um the IGA stock bridge would have to approve because of our population. [1:15:53, 1:16:00]: And so we would have to be a part of that if Henry County and and everyone collectively wanted to go to the max of two hundred and forty five million. [1:16:01, 1:16:05]: Which I anticipate most jurisdictions would be. Then you see the breakdown there. [1:16:06, 1:16:08]: Um by population. [1:16:09, 1:16:13]: You'll see um the hundred and sixty five million, you'll see. [1:16:14, 1:16:16]: uh down here, Henry County's [1:16:16, 1:16:19]: Would be a hundred and sixty five million and then you would get [1:16:20, 1:16:23]: The um thirty million from um [1:16:23, 1:16:25]: Stock reach and so forth. [1:16:25, 1:16:27]: Um that um [1:16:27, 1:16:28]: Ultimately [1:16:29, 1:16:30]: Um [1:16:31, 1:16:34]: Adds up to what is two hundred and forty five milyen. [1:16:35, 1:16:36]: dollars in total. [1:16:38, 1:16:44]: The issue the as I understand, um the still the the conversation centers around whether or not [1:16:44, 1:16:48]: There will be joint projects or any city support. [1:16:49, 1:16:50]: Four [1:16:50, 1:16:52]: Um joint projects. [1:16:52, 1:16:55]: Um and I mentioned that to you last time that related to [1:16:56, 1:16:57]: Yeah. [1:16:58, 1:16:59]: And I'll let me pull that up. [1:17:00, 1:17:00]: Here now. [1:17:02, 1:17:05]: Can you see that? Can you see the screen? Can everybody see the screen? [1:17:05, 1:17:06]: It's not change, sir. [1:17:06, 1:17:09]: Okay, it's not changed. All right, I'm gonna have to get out of the yellow one there. [1:17:17, 1:17:20]: Let me stop share and go out. Let me go back in and share. [1:17:29, 1:17:33]: We can see it now. We can see the now. All right. There you go. [1:17:33, 1:17:41]: Which had to do with the Rock Quarry Road rewidening or widening project. And you can see the split that the county talked about before. [1:17:42, 1:17:45]: With Henry County at eight million and stockers with eighteen million based on [1:17:46, 1:17:50]: um the number of lane miles. And then the other project that was mentioned. [1:17:51, 1:17:54]: uh previously was the Hudson Bridge Road Eagles Landing. [1:17:55, 1:18:01]: Resurfacing um with a uh split of thirty point five percent and sixty-nine point five percent. [1:18:01, 1:18:05]: Stock rate four hundred and eighty nine thousand and then Henry County at one point one [1:18:06, 1:18:06]: Million. [1:18:07, 1:18:11]: Um that was those were the two projects that were mentioned previously. [1:18:11, 1:18:16]: um as joint potential joint projects with Henry County. [1:18:16, 1:18:17]: Um [1:18:17, 1:18:21]: I understand today also there was some discussion, although I did not hear directly. [1:18:22, 1:18:24]: About the Rock Hory Road extension. [1:18:25, 1:18:26]: uh that have been um [1:18:26, 1:18:29]: on previous projects or had been discussed. Now [1:18:30, 1:18:37]: The county is expected, as I understand it, to uh uh consider this again on July the seventh, I believe. [1:18:37, 1:18:39]: Shall I have a s yes. [1:18:40, 1:18:42]: July the seventh, I believe it is. [1:18:42, 1:18:50]: Um and uh consider this again for uh their consideration and actually make some decision. I would imagine they'll be seeking to make some decision. [1:18:50, 1:18:53]: Come to some IGA agreement with the cities. [1:18:53, 1:18:54]: at that point in time. [1:18:55, 1:18:58]: And so um you know from the um [1:18:59, 1:19:00]: The city's perspective. [1:19:00, 1:19:01]: Uh the we [1:19:02, 1:19:06]: Um you'd reviewed a previous list of projects that mainly dealt with trails. [1:19:07, 1:19:15]: Country Club Drive, transportation improvements, and another a number of other linkages in the downtown area. And that total. [1:19:15, 1:19:17]: uh just over twenty nine million dollars. [1:19:18, 1:19:25]: um for those particular projects. So the question uh there's some question that still remains with respect to the city. [1:19:25, 1:19:29]: uh wanting to or desiring to partner with any projects or not. [1:19:29, 1:19:31]: uh with Henry County. [1:19:31, 1:19:39]: as it relates to um the two projects that were mentioned, which was Hudson Bridge Road, Eagles Landing Resurfacing, and also Rock Horror Road. [1:19:39, 1:19:43]: And if there is a desire to do that, at what level [1:19:43, 1:19:44]: Would you want to do that? [1:19:45, 1:19:46]: Also understanding that [1:19:47, 1:19:51]: Monies that perhaps would be devoted to those potential road or [1:19:51, 1:19:53]: uh joint projects. [1:19:53, 1:19:56]: Um would essentially come out of [1:19:56, 1:19:57]: Um [1:19:58, 1:19:58]: You know. [1:19:59, 1:20:03]: that pot of thirty point five five million dollars that the city has [1:20:04, 1:20:08]: um or the or the projects that the city has at least designated to this point that you would like to [1:20:09, 1:20:10]: have done through T Splast. [1:20:11, 1:20:23]: So with that, um, yes, ma'am. I'm sorry, Mr. Night, I mean to interrupt you here, but I thought I heard earlier today if this is if this is true, that they were thinking about East Atlanta. They wanted some type of partnership with East Atlanta as well. [1:20:24, 1:20:28]: Yeah, I don't know how how true that is or how how valid that is. Do you recall that at all, sir? [1:20:30, 1:20:30]: Yeah. [1:20:31, 1:20:33]: Uh Miss Knight, you're you're muted, Miss Knight. [1:20:37, 1:20:46]: East Atlanta Road, I'm not sure about East Atlanta Road. What has been officially stated is Hudson Bridge and Rock Hoy Road from the information that I have received. [1:20:47, 1:20:49]: All right, Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [1:20:49, 1:20:53]: There was some discussion about East Atlanta Road. I think Commissioner Holmes [1:20:54, 1:20:56]: Brought it up, uh, said he wanted on there. [1:20:56, 1:20:59]: I think it's a valuable project that needs to move forward. [1:21:00, 1:21:20]: Uh it certainly would offer outstanding uh access that we don't that we that we would not be able to provide to the odd amphitheater. It certainly will provide another window uh with a four-lane highway to connect to the amphitheater. Uh, it will solve the East Atlanta Road bottleneck uh for us. Uh it is a problem. [1:21:20, 1:21:31]: project that I think is worthwhile. And I think what really happened is when we were proposing our list, I think we had our list that projected at maybe like$20 million. [1:21:31, 1:21:34]: Uh with this projection at thirty million dollars. [1:21:34, 1:21:43]: We certainly would have some uh extra funding uh to go along with matching uh the East Atlanta Road Extension and some other projects. [1:21:44, 1:21:45]: Uh as well. [1:21:45, 1:21:47]: Along the way, so [1:21:47, 1:22:07]: with the increased deal and working out the IGA, it takes our total, what we had preliminary total, I think you mentioned Mr. Knight was 20 million. It's all the way up to uh 30 million uh with the IGA, which will offer us the additional funding with which to uh go ahead and make the match. And I think [1:22:07, 1:22:27]: uh the the real key issue here is the breakdown. Uh traditionally as we saw the split was 70 th70 30. Uh that could potentially work uh for the city but this by the miles wherever's in the miles I mean the budget ratios just don't break down like that. [1:22:27, 1:22:27]: Yeah. [1:22:27, 1:22:30]: They have basically almost um [1:22:30, 1:22:35]: Two they almost have twenty times the budget we have at almost nearly two hundred million dollars. [1:22:35, 1:22:37]: And we're at twelve million dollars, so [1:22:37, 1:22:53]: That breakdown will never be able to work. If we could kind of work out something where we did the 70, 30 split uh on those projects, we probably could uh come to some terms. But if the formula is going to be based on by the miles, it it'll never get done. [1:22:55, 1:22:57]: Right. Yeah. [1:22:58, 1:23:07]: Go ahead, Mr. Knight. Go ahead. You're gonna respond to that, sir. Go ahead. I saw Councilman Thomas. I'd I'd defer to Councilman Thomas. Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Go ahead, Mr. Knight. Then I'll speak out the um. [1:23:07, 1:23:16]: Okay. I I I did wanna mention something, uh uh Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. The list that we saw previously, and I'll share this again. [1:23:16, 1:23:32]: Um with a um the project list that we have seen uh previously or that was presented previously is actually uh just over twenty-nine million dollars with all of the projects that you see here, which total up to twenty-nine million dollars, and that's what [1:23:32, 1:23:40]: has been presented previously uh to the council of potential road projects, trail connection, sidewalk safety improvements, et cetera. [1:23:41, 1:23:42]: I just wanted to make that clarification. [1:23:44, 1:23:46]: Certainly I certainly do understand that. [1:23:47, 1:23:54]: But uh we gotta have some roads on there. I mean I know there was a list that the staff put together, but at the same time [1:23:54, 1:24:11]: Every one of us sitting here here hear about traffic every single day. So I you know that list was what was suggested by staff. I would think that that NIF list would need to be reworked because you cannot have a T splotch without road projects on it. You just can't. I support trails. [1:24:12, 1:24:13]: I want to make sure that [1:24:13, 1:24:16]: We put put together the bones for a solid [1:24:16, 1:24:20]: uh trail plan, but at the same time we got to have [1:24:20, 1:24:25]: uh these road projects accomplish or you won't be able to get to the trails. [1:24:26, 1:24:30]: Well that that is that is that is absolutely right. It's the council's determination. [1:24:30, 1:24:33]: of what you would like to see on a T Sploss list. [1:24:34, 1:24:36]: Councilman Thomas Goya, please. [1:24:36, 1:24:39]: Thank you, Mira. I I just wanted to clarify a point. [1:24:40, 1:24:43]: That uh Commissioner Holmes made today in reference to [1:24:44, 1:24:46]: uh East Atlanta Road. [1:24:46, 1:24:50]: Uh, if I'm not mistaken, he was actually talking about the [1:24:50, 1:24:53]: Rock Quarry Road extension. [1:24:53, 1:24:57]: That goes to East Atlanta Road and Valley Hill. [1:24:57, 1:24:59]: Uh he mentioned the fact that [1:25:00, 1:25:01]: Because of the [1:25:02, 1:25:04]: uh development of the amphitheatre [1:25:05, 1:25:07]: Um and the hospital. [1:25:07, 1:25:12]: That it may be uh more difficult for. [1:25:13, 1:25:18]: uh citizen from the that northern end trying to get to the hospital. [1:25:18, 1:25:20]: And he mentioned that if [1:25:21, 1:25:25]: The Rock Quarry Row uh extension was completed. [1:25:25, 1:25:28]: It would give another uh access to [1:25:29, 1:25:34]: um, you know, to the hospital, you will not have to come all the way up to [1:25:34, 1:25:39]: uh East Alana Road and North Henry. And and I would say also [1:25:39, 1:25:43]: The fact that we'll t we'll put it in the turning lane just for that reason. [1:25:44, 1:25:46]: to assist in in the movement of traffic. [1:25:46, 1:25:48]: So this would also help. [1:25:49, 1:25:58]: um East Alana Road and North Indian Boulevard, if you did have access that would you could go from that particular area [1:25:58, 1:26:00]: uh at Valley Hill. [1:26:01, 1:26:04]: uh all the way to uh to rock where [1:26:04, 1:26:10]: Uh that is what Commissioner Hong was was mentioning uh today. And I just want to clarify that. [1:26:11, 1:26:14]: All right, thank you. Uh Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:26:17, 1:26:22]: Yeah, uh Mr. Knight, uh, when when the uh the talks came up. [1:26:22, 1:26:25]: Not about just the extension of rock core. [1:26:26, 1:26:28]: Road uh and with uh [1:26:29, 1:26:35]: But when we talked about the widening rock quarry road, those those talks went on so long until um [1:26:35, 1:26:44]: I know that that was I think it was two point seven or two point eight million dollars that came in and that uh uh uh uh under when Blake Prince was in office and they did the actual surveying. [1:26:45, 1:26:47]: Of widening rock quarry. [1:26:47, 1:27:07]: uh i think that's extension of rock quarry been on the table as long if not longer has any of the splotch money that come in can have come in uh through the county has any surveying been done because as we we looked at some things years ago uh we looked at some directional stuff and we looked at different properties even [1:27:07, 1:27:15]: Even including, I don't want to name names, but the properties that would go through that extension of rock quarry. Has any type surveying being done? Because we talked about. [1:27:15, 1:27:24]: Uh, the implementation of wetlands in there, how the Corps of Engineers have to be involved. And we talked about so much. So, has any type of surveying been done? [1:27:25, 1:27:35]: by the county to to actually get uh to show a feasibility study of what that cost would be to do an extension of that row. Any feasibility study been done or anything? [1:27:35, 1:27:35]: Cootie County. [1:27:37, 1:27:39]: What Rock Poir Road Extension, I'm not aware of any. [1:27:40, 1:27:41]: I'm I'm not aware of any. [1:27:42, 1:27:45]: Um I I I don't know, but I'm not aware of it. [1:27:45, 1:28:03]: And Mary Pro Tem, your hand was up first. Go ahead, please. Yeah, uh at the meeting today, uh trans the SWATS transportation director, Mr. Romero, suggested that the project could be approximately$20 million. Um, you know, if once they got everything put to down somewhere in that neighborhood. [1:28:03, 1:28:04]: So um [1:28:04, 1:28:16]: That's kind of what they put out there today, but a more definitive answer would be done at as all af if after everything is put together. But we gotta we gotta as leaders, we gotta [1:28:16, 1:28:26]: put the push behind it to make sure that this project does not go away. This is central. This gives us an expansion to our downtown area. [1:28:26, 1:28:31]: And it gives us solid uh highway corridor connection to the amphitheater. [1:28:31, 1:28:35]: in the entire area. It opens up our downtown, which is now limited. [1:28:35, 1:28:44]: uh to certain streets and it would be of great benefit to us. So we certainly need to work with Henry County to encourage this project to move forward. [1:28:45, 1:28:47]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:28:49, 1:28:56]: Okay. I wanted to ask Mr. Knighton, can you show that list one more time? I just wanted to see how many of those [1:28:56, 1:28:58]: Um were trail project. [1:29:01, 1:29:04]: This the city list, yes. Um [1:29:10, 1:29:12]: Can you see that okay? [1:29:12, 1:29:12]: Yes. [1:29:14, 1:29:14]: Okay. [1:29:18, 1:29:25]: Okay. Um it looks like there are several trail projects on here. But of course, um I feel like that [1:29:27, 1:29:33]: collaborating with the county commissioners on the extension of the Rock Quarry Road. [1:29:33, 1:29:39]: Would be ideal for us, especially with this amphitheater coming on board. Um, as much as I [1:29:39, 1:29:52]: want to advocate for the trails and the master trail plan, um, I think having that extension um really should be a priority for us. So I certainly support it. [1:29:55, 1:29:56]: All right, any other comments from the council? [1:29:59, 1:30:12]: Okay. So on that note, Mr. Knighton, so they you said that the county's gonna meet on July seventh. So there's a decision we have to make tonight, I guess, or some type of vote in this as aspect tonight about this. Is that correct? [1:30:13, 1:30:18]: I would I would certainly want to have the council's endorsement and approval on [1:30:19, 1:30:25]: What you would like to devote to either the project list that was shown that's been developed by staff. [1:30:26, 1:30:28]: And or any support for any joint projects. [1:30:29, 1:30:35]: uh Hudson Bridge the Hudson Bridge Project Rock Quarry Road or the Um Rock Quarry Road extension as was mentioned. [1:30:36, 1:30:38]: Um of of what [1:30:39, 1:30:47]: uh you would you would foresee or would like to see in terms of the city of stockbridge support for those projects. [1:30:47, 1:31:03]: Okay. Yep. Uh yes. Sorry. I would just like to know what the cost would be for the Rock Corey extension project, not the widening, but the one that just came up today from Commissioner Holmes, if that's the one that we're interested in. [1:31:04, 1:31:10]: I think that we would need to have some type of idea. We do know the cost of the [1:31:10, 1:31:13]: Rock quarry widening, but not the extension. [1:31:15, 1:31:19]: It was twenty million dollars that was stated today. Around approximately twenty. [1:31:19, 1:31:24]: Could be as low as eight eighteen to t uh uh eighteen to twenty million was the projection. [1:31:25, 1:31:28]: For the extension only. Is that what you're doing? For the extension only. Yeah. [1:31:29, 1:31:30]: That may be an issue. [1:31:31, 1:31:37]: Okay. Uh several of you. This I'm gonna go to Tom May uh Councilman Thomas. Go ahead, please. [1:31:37, 1:31:41]: Well uh m Mrs. Gantt sort of um asked my question. [1:31:42, 1:31:46]: Before I think I can really vote, I I think we need to know exactly [1:31:47, 1:31:48]: Um [1:31:48, 1:31:49]: Well [1:31:49, 1:31:52]: We are going to finance or [1:31:52, 1:31:57]: Uh what our portion would be for the Rock Quarry Road extension. [1:31:57, 1:32:00]: I did see the meeting again today. [1:32:00, 1:32:01]: Um [1:32:01, 1:32:03]: This has not come up um [1:32:04, 1:32:06]: In our discussion tonight about [1:32:07, 1:32:08]: Um sharing [1:32:09, 1:32:14]: uh some of the rock quarter and i don't want to really just open that up but we don't want to discuss that but [1:32:14, 1:32:17]: Uh, I just think that we need to know. [1:32:17, 1:32:21]: Um, the bottom line if if we're going to support [1:32:22, 1:32:24]: The Rockware Road extension [1:32:24, 1:32:30]: Uh as Mrs. Gantt indicated, we need to know that number before we can actually vote. [1:32:32, 1:32:34]: Sure. All right. Yeah, go ahead, Mayor Putin. [1:32:34, 1:32:54]: Mr. Knight, might I suggest we just do this? We can't have broad categories. We don't necessarily have to put uh we just could put highways and and then bridges or trails or a category, not necessarily uh the particular projects and then we could cause tonight we gotta vote. We don't have time to come back and turn oh [1:32:54, 1:33:07]: I mean, I guess we might have a special call meeting, but in terms of what we could do is not necessarily name the particular project that put just list them as road projects and then put together a project list at a later date. [1:33:10, 1:33:15]: Thank T S PLOS and you'll you'll notice in the presentation today all of the other cities have looked pretty specific. [1:33:16, 1:33:18]: About what they were devoting their monies to. [1:33:19, 1:33:23]: And I think with T splost as opposed to a general splost. [1:33:24, 1:33:30]: Um where you can have these broad categories generally. A T Sploss generally needs to be more specific. [1:33:30, 1:33:33]: In terms of road projects that you're going to support. [1:33:34, 1:33:42]: I understand the concept that you're talking about. And in for instance, if you devoted three million dollars to resurfacing, for instance, and then made the determination of what [1:33:42, 1:33:43]: Rose. [1:33:44, 1:33:46]: somewhere later in the future you might want to resurface. [1:33:46, 1:33:51]: I think the question with respect to this is again, how much [1:33:51, 1:33:52]: Support. [1:33:53, 1:33:56]: Does the city want to provide to these joint projects? [1:33:57, 1:34:02]: Is it, you know, what's what's the dollar figure for Rock Quarry Road extension? At least that seems to be [1:34:03, 1:34:06]: the project that's gotten attention from the council at least in this discussion. [1:34:07, 1:34:11]: So what what is that? And what does that look like in terms of an overall [1:34:12, 1:34:13]: uh road project. [1:34:13, 1:34:15]: or road project support. [1:34:16, 1:34:22]: Okay, okay. Mr. Mayor. Yeah, yeah. Well stand by stand by again. Um Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:34:23, 1:34:35]: Mr. Knighton, I think with this council, I think we're we're kind of all on the same page, but I think it's kind of premature right now because when you talk about the survey and what's feasible for the Rock Quarry extension. [1:34:35, 1:34:38]: When you look at the dynamics of the properties. [1:34:39, 1:34:47]: You don't get into much you don't get into land acquisitions and all right-away acquisitions and all of this until you get into the county portion. [1:34:47, 1:34:54]: So when we start to to blindly say what we're going to contribute, how can we say that when we have no idea? [1:34:55, 1:35:08]: what the the full survey in writing entails for is land acquisitions, for is the route you're gonna have to take because of wetlands, because you're gonna have to get the coordinate engineers involved if you disturb certain areas. [1:35:08, 1:35:11]: It I mean how how how can we make a decision? [1:35:11, 1:35:12]: And be specific on [1:35:13, 1:35:18]: our uh um what we're gonna contribute to finding a rock quarry when the numbers aren't even solid. [1:35:20, 1:35:21]: The numbers are solid. [1:35:22, 1:35:25]: Well, in terms of an overall road project [1:35:25, 1:35:31]: Um if you if you in a road project I'm saying if a road project was a million dollars, then that would entail [1:35:31, 1:35:36]: The surveying and everything else, presumably, that would go along with it in this particular case. [1:35:36, 1:35:37]: With [1:35:37, 1:35:42]: The Rock Quarry Road extension, as I understand it, was mentioned by Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [1:35:43, 1:35:46]: The question was asked of about how much it would cost. [1:35:47, 1:35:51]: And as I understand it, the staff person said twenty million dollars or thereabouts. [1:35:52, 1:35:59]: Something about twenty million dollars. Now, how specific that is, I can't speak for the county. So I don't I can't speak for how specific that is. I can say [1:35:59, 1:36:03]: on the project list that the city of Stockbridge's staff showed you earlier. [1:36:03, 1:36:07]: That was basically taken out of our much of that was taken out of our [1:36:08, 1:36:10]: uh bicycle pedestrian trail master plan. [1:36:11, 1:36:13]: In terms of those specific numbers. [1:36:13, 1:36:17]: And then a couple of projects like Country Club Drive that was one million dollars for [1:36:18, 1:36:19]: For um uh [1:36:20, 1:36:27]: for road improvements and so i i can't speak to the specificity i can't speak to the specificity of that particular road project [1:36:27, 1:36:28]: You have a chapter. [1:36:28, 1:36:33]: I'm sorry, Mr. Nightman, real quick because I don't want to get too far from what Ms. Alexander said a little while ago. [1:36:34, 1:36:36]: If you start using a formula of seventy, thirty. [1:36:37, 1:36:42]: then you're talking about a twenty million dollar project, then you're talking about six million dollars from the city of Stockbridge. [1:36:42, 1:36:59]: Is that what we're blindly talking about right now? No, no, I'm not suggesting that. I what what I am suggesting if you had a desire to support that project, the city council could say we want to devote X amount, a million dollars to that project, two million dollars to that specific project. [1:36:59, 1:37:07]: Um, I'm not suggesting, you know, some type of ratio or split, but show some level of contribution to that project if that is your desire. [1:37:08, 1:37:09]: Willing to put skin in the game. [1:37:10, 1:37:11]: Right. But [1:37:12, 1:37:16]: Okay, stand by. Uh Councilwoman um uh Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:37:16, 1:37:21]: Thank you. In in reference to um Nepro Tim Alexander's comment. [1:37:21, 1:37:25]: Um actually at the meeting this morning they had made a statement that [1:37:26, 1:37:31]: They cannot make a decision off of this without stop bridges. [1:37:31, 1:37:36]: um IGA and McDonna both they cannot do [1:37:36, 1:37:56]: This uh T squash without us. So although we are kind of in a hurry, I think it would be advantageous for us to get all the details and iron out before we rush to a decision to vote. It was not stated that we had to vote tonight. We have to make a decision tonight. Um, this the extension just came. [1:37:56, 1:38:16]: And I agree that maybe some type of contribution could be given some kind of skin of the game. However, there are other things that Councilman Blount mentioned that are also probably issues going to be raised, including other other areas as well that I'm familiar with. [1:38:16, 1:38:20]: with. I also think that um [1:38:20, 1:38:40]: we should, you know, uh it was stated that the county will be reaching out to us about these discussions on what we can do together. There are some cities such as Hampton that don't have to really contribute any of their portions because they have, you know, separate, um, they don't have anything that they're working. [1:38:40, 1:39:00]: jointly with the county on at this time, but Stockbridge had a quite a bit to include, I remember Eagles Landing Parkway. That, you know, at the time, Hudson Bridge and Eagles Landing. Now we're talking about Rock Quarry Road. When we did the Rock Quarry Road widening, if we were to do what they asked us to do from the county, we would be left with like$200,000,$300,000. [1:39:00, 1:39:01]: Remaining. [1:39:01, 1:39:21]: For projects that we want to work on. I think that we should really consider. I appreciate Mr. Knight sending over a list that was very detailed on projects that we wanted for our infrastructure, for our road projects, and our sidewalks. We do need to consider that, but we need to be to make sure that it works. [1:39:21, 1:39:29]: In the favor of both the county and the city, something that is fair. And I don't think we can do that tonight, debating it back and forth. [1:39:30, 1:39:50]: Okay, I got uh some food for thought for a second, please. In reference to the the trails, I we we have a bond issue for a million dollars for trails. So if we decide to give up certain amounts of T Sploss money for these other joint projects, I'm only assuming that that bond money can help out for those trails that that we have on the list that will probably get ignored by [1:39:50, 1:40:00]: by uh in a sense by giving money to another project, but the bond, that million dollar bond will probably help out with that process. That's number one. Number two is that I'm gonna I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna plead my eagerness for a second. [1:40:01, 1:40:14]: The extension, the Rockware extension. I should know this. I don't have a map in front of me. Is that entire extension inside of C Limits and Stockbridge or that's part of county line? Does anybody know for sure? Is that a mix of county and city or strictly city? [1:40:14, 1:40:15]: America. [1:40:16, 1:40:17]: It is a mix. [1:40:17, 1:40:22]: It should be about ninety percent in the city if there's anything outside of that. [1:40:22, 1:40:27]: Uh the city owns most of that land because if you look at the tax assessors records. [1:40:27, 1:40:43]: uh the plot of land right across from Rock Cory Road. The city owns most of that. Some of it is still actually owned by property owners. So we might have to acquire some of it, but most of it is uh is is inside the city limits going to the area because you're coming out [1:40:43, 1:40:45]: Where Valley Hill is. [1:40:45, 1:40:49]: uh near the publics. That's in the city limits where you start at [1:40:49, 1:40:53]: Uh we're at Rock Quarry Road on through the city hall area, all of that. [1:40:53, 1:40:59]: uh past Bryant Street, all of that is in the city limits. So most of it is more as vantageous. [1:40:59, 1:41:06]: uh to us in order to do that. The the the main issue here is the deadline. Mr. Nighton [1:41:06, 1:41:07]: They have to vote. [1:41:07, 1:41:10]: On this tea splice by what date [1:41:10, 1:41:15]: So it it there's not gonna be a lot of time to go back and do a lot of research. They have to vote. [1:41:16, 1:41:20]: I think by July the seventh. So the time is very short. [1:41:21, 1:41:22]: Oh yeah, that [1:41:23, 1:41:29]: I'm gonna go to the standby, Mr. Knight, if you don't stand. Council Thomas go Council Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:41:29, 1:41:40]: Thank you. Uh yeah, I was going to confirm uh Mayor Pro Tem that the date is July the 7th. Um, but let's be clear now, without uh an IGA. [1:41:40, 1:41:46]: uh they can they can move forward even though the uh distribution [1:41:46, 1:41:49]: Would be significantly uh less. [1:41:49, 1:42:01]: Uh, we don't want to force that hand. This is what I was suggesting. I'm gonna ask Mr. Knight this question. From since the meeting this morning, have you had a chance to talk with the um county manager? [1:42:02, 1:42:03]: Mr. Nighting. [1:42:04, 1:42:09]: No sir. I have not uh requested the presentation uh this afternoon. [1:42:09, 1:42:11]: uh received that um [1:42:11, 1:42:15]: But I have not uh had a chance to speak with uh Miss Matthews. [1:42:16, 1:42:18]: Okay, so my suggestion would be [1:42:18, 1:42:22]: Uh,'cause I think we're gonna have to compromise somewhere here and there. [1:42:22, 1:42:28]: Uh and it seems that we need a special call meeting, but I think uh as um [1:42:28, 1:42:37]: Uh Councilman Blount indicated and some of the others, you know, we we need information, we need facts. And I know for Mr. Wiggins is here. [1:42:37, 1:42:39]: We need to know. [1:42:39, 1:42:40]: Um [1:42:40, 1:42:50]: what's available, what what pool of money is available, what is available for us to um to share in a project, to [1:42:50, 1:42:51]: Fund the whole project. [1:42:52, 1:42:56]: It's just a lot that we don't know. Now of course I don't think we can make a decision tonight. [1:42:57, 1:43:17]: But I I think the question needs to be asked of us, are we willing to uh come back for a special call meeting and hopefully uh Mr. Night, if you could gather some information, uh, Mr. Wiggins, if you could share uh some financial with us. We just sort of just need to know before we make a a decision. [1:43:17, 1:43:25]: And I know that uh the commissioners, uh they're going to vote on Wednesday, July the 7th, uh to go on the ballot. So now. [1:43:26, 1:43:30]: Um is that going to be with an IGA or without? [1:43:30, 1:43:31]: So [1:43:32, 1:43:35]: You know, we we need to make these decisions. [1:43:36, 1:43:38]: Well the the other thing I'm sorry. [1:43:38, 1:43:50]: Well, I I'm just gonna say, uh are we willing to come back for a special call meeting once we get a little bit more information to uh you know to try to, you know, move forward and we need to play the best hand. [1:43:51, 1:43:53]: Um that we have. [1:43:53, 1:43:54]: Considering [1:43:54, 1:44:07]: the impact uh on this decision and i know uh mayor pearl times you know some things about you know uh traffic so i just think we just need to look at you know [1:44:07, 1:44:08]: What is best? [1:44:09, 1:44:14]: uh for us and our citizens here in the city of Stockbridge. [1:44:14, 1:44:23]: The answer is yes, we could call a special call meeting. I'm pretty sure we'll we'll have a consensus to do that with no problem. Probably me unanimous in this aspect. Mayor Proteir Mouse, go ahead, please. [1:44:23, 1:44:28]: Yeah, yeah, I was just gonna concur with that having the uh special call meeting in order to do that. [1:44:28, 1:44:35]: Uh what I wanted to uh kind of reiterate was uh we we just gotta look at past history, guys. [1:44:36, 1:44:40]: The last plus five would have been twenty six million dollars. [1:44:41, 1:44:42]: We call the bluff. [1:44:43, 1:44:45]: And we dropped down to twenty. [1:44:45, 1:44:58]: They well, they won't do that. They won't they won't move forward without us. Uh they won't do that. And in the end, they did. They moved forward without us. We haven't collected any splice off the top because if they go with the [1:44:59, 1:45:08]: individual agreement where without us we're gonna collect money but again they get to skim the money right off the top they well our collection does not start right away [1:45:09, 1:45:13]: All of those things factor in and our amount goes down precipitously. [1:45:14, 1:45:17]: If we had worked out this IGA with them. [1:45:18, 1:45:25]: Our splash five would be twenty six million instead of twenty. So the difference is yes, it's a lot. [1:45:25, 1:45:45]: So look at those two lists again. I don't know, Mr. Nightmare, you can put them back up. The choices start. If you go from the IGA to no IGA, there's millions of dollars that disappear off the table. So this is a critical decision that we make. The last time we got it wrong and we lost six million dollars off the splots. [1:45:50, 1:45:55]: And I I think I do I think I might have heard Mr. Remer I think I might might have heard something about [1:45:56, 1:45:57]: Uh the rock quarry [1:45:58, 1:46:01]: Is anybody else tuning in? Miss Holliday, were you tuning into the meeting today? [1:46:04, 1:46:06]: I I I I viewed the meeting. [1:46:07, 1:46:09]: Did you hear Miss uh Miss Holliday, are you there? [1:46:09, 1:46:10]: I'm here. [1:46:11, 1:46:18]: Are are you did you hear I I think I recall them saying something about the project was gonna be a hundred percent or did you hear that or no? [1:46:18, 1:46:23]: I thought I heard Mr. Romero say because the commissioner did ask him. [1:46:24, 1:46:28]: And he said it it was a hundred percent in the city limits of Stockbridge. [1:46:28, 1:46:29]: Okay. [1:46:29, 1:46:30]: All right. [1:46:30, 1:46:43]: Right. I I I thought so I thought it was pretty close to that. There might have been something uh inside and not outside of that. So but in in in in essence, I wanna see look at those collection levels for the city. [1:46:43, 1:46:43]: Okay. [1:46:44, 1:46:45]: Look at that difference. [1:46:46, 1:46:49]: With an IGA is thirty milyen dollars. [1:46:51, 1:46:54]: Without an IGA, it drops all the way down to fourteen million. [1:46:55, 1:46:57]: Five hundred and nine that's a lot of money. [1:46:57, 1:47:01]: Uh, we need every dime to fix this traffic problem, and so do they. [1:47:01, 1:47:04]: So it's in the best interest of both parties. [1:47:04, 1:47:07]: To sit down at the table and to work this out. [1:47:07, 1:47:16]: uh for the benefit. I certainly do agree. I don't suggest, excuse me, that we would have a 70-30 on all of the projects. No. [1:47:16, 1:47:24]: I don't. And there is a case where with the city might be able to set aside two million dollars, million dollars, three million, whatever we decide to do collectively. [1:47:24, 1:47:41]: toward Rock Quarry Road extension, not 30%. Why? Because as I said, the county gets 80 plus percent of the tax revenue plus percent of you look at it and break it down, their budget is 190 million, ours is 12. [1:47:41, 1:47:59]: There's no comparison between the two. So in essence, they should pay a higher portion, especially on a project that's going to create north-south connectivity. It's just even though the extension is in the city limits, everybody in Henry County is going to use this extension. All of us are. [1:48:00, 1:48:01]: Every city. [1:48:04, 1:48:24]: All right, so um any other comments and uh okay, uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead please. I I just want us to conclude by confirming if we're going to uh and we could do this after the meeting, uh special call meeting. Uh Mr. Knight, are you going to get with Mrs. uh Matthews to [1:48:24, 1:48:26]: Uh get some facts, information. [1:48:27, 1:48:28]: Uh Mr. Wiggins. [1:48:28, 1:48:32]: Uh will you do some financial? [1:48:32, 1:48:43]: just to see where we are, where the where the funds are gonna come from. We just need to have all this stuff available uh at the special call meeting and then I think we need to sort of be able to go forward from there. [1:48:44, 1:48:46]: But we need to confirm um [1:48:46, 1:48:50]: night or first thing in the morning about to call me and I you know [1:48:50, 1:48:51]: They're going to vote on the seventh. [1:48:53, 1:48:54]: Uh Mayor. [1:48:55, 1:48:56]: Yeah, go ahead. [1:48:56, 1:49:02]: Certainly, Mayor, if if the council desires a special call meeting, we'll have that information and I'll speak with Ms. Matthews as well. [1:49:02, 1:49:07]: As a reminder, of course, you know, July fifth, which is a Monday, would be the holiday. [1:49:08, 1:49:11]: Uh just to keep that in mind for any special called meeting but [1:49:11, 1:49:18]: Um uh certainly whenever the council wants to have the special call meeting, uh staff will have the information prepared uh prior to that meeting. [1:49:18, 1:49:22]: So it probably needs to be either Friday or a Tuesday. [1:49:22, 1:49:25]: The day before they meet, which would be the sixth. [1:49:25, 1:49:45]: No, wait a minute. We already have a meeting on the sixth. Don't no, that's the first. We have a meeting on the fourth. We have the town hall on the first. Okay. So maybe this should be the sixth. But anyway, cool for thought. But you have to gather up all the information and let us know, and then we'll decide on that point. Uh today is Tuesday. And so okay. So maybe the sixth. And then we'll [1:49:45, 1:49:59]: We'll see what the council wants to do as a collected bar uh collected unit. If no other comments, we'll move on to the next sub subject, which deals with uh new business and uh council consideration to approve task order number 28 for Carter and Sleuth. [1:50:00, 1:50:16]: Walter Way Lift Station and Memorial Park Lift Station rehabilitation in the amount of$124,900, funding source Wastewater Department Fund Balance. And Mr. Aaron and Brad Hosinger will present this. [1:50:17, 1:50:31]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is part of the uh SOR uh department's top ten list that was generated in 2016. And we're about 50% complete with that list. So I'll let Mr. Holzinger speak to this project. [1:50:33, 1:50:36]: Thank you, Council. I wanna make sure you can hear me first. [1:50:36, 1:50:39]: Could you speak up a little louder or put your volume up some, sir? [1:50:42, 1:50:43]: What about nails? [1:50:44, 1:51:04]: It's a little better. Okay. Uh just thank you for hearing me. Uh this is about the pump station over behind Mays Crossing. And it serves from the Krispy Kreme all the way down to Mays Crossing and two residential residential houses. [1:51:04, 1:51:24]: It serves all that area. It's 30 plus years old. And I know y'all this kind of sounds like a broken record from the other pump stations, but it's exactly the same. It's this pump station is limping along right now. We've had to do bypass piping because the original piping just won't work anymore. [1:51:24, 1:51:25]: More. [1:51:25, 1:51:28]: And I urge you to uh approve this task order. [1:51:29, 1:51:33]: All right, council, any questions for Mr. Holeslinger or Mr. Aaron? [1:51:34, 1:51:38]: And if not, is there a motion to accept this proposal? [1:51:40, 1:51:41]: Is there a motion? [1:51:42, 1:51:43]: So moved. [1:51:44, 1:51:46]: Ms. uh Gantt uh so moved. Is there a second? [1:51:48, 1:51:51]: Miss Barber, a second that. Any further discussion? [1:51:52, 1:51:54]: Okay, Mr. Knighton, sir. [1:51:54, 1:51:57]: Excuse me, excuse me, s mayor and council. I just wanted to make [1:51:58, 1:52:02]: Uh, sure that um as alluded to earlier, believed by councilman Thomas. [1:52:03, 1:52:07]: that these items, this item and the other items that the council will consider. [1:52:07, 1:52:10]: Will also uh be with an approval. [1:52:10, 1:52:13]: Uh to seek reimbursement through the American Rescue Plan Act. [1:52:13, 1:52:14]: Funds. [1:52:15, 1:52:17]: Okay, good deal. [1:52:17, 1:52:18]: Any of the comments? [1:52:18, 1:52:20]: Motion's been made and seconded. [1:52:21, 1:52:22]: All in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:52:24, 1:52:24]: Uh. [1:52:24, 1:52:27]: Okay, it's an ambush decision. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, council. [1:52:28, 1:52:32]: Council consideration tap for tax order twenty-nine. [1:52:32, 1:52:38]: Ricardo and Sloop water service line replacement an amount of sixty sixty-two thousand seven hundred dollars. [1:52:38, 1:52:42]: Once again funding source is the water department fund balance. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:52:43, 1:52:48]: Yes, Ms. Mayor, I'll let Mr. Mollis speak to this. He's the sou water superintendent. [1:52:49, 1:52:50]: Okay, Miss Mullis, go ahead, please. [1:52:52, 1:52:53]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [1:52:54, 1:52:55]: Yeah I [1:52:56, 1:53:01]: We're just we're we're asking for funds as far as you know accepting this. [1:53:01, 1:53:05]: For replacing plasti old plastic lines to copper lines. [1:53:08, 1:53:09]: Okay. [1:53:10, 1:53:11]: Okay, is that it? [1:53:11, 1:53:31]: And well the reason the reason why we're asking is we're having a lot of uh service leaks on these water lines. So we want to go in and repair them as we prepare to resurface those streets. A lot of them are in Willow Springs subdivision. We're getting to resurface that road and we would hate to be resurfacing and making [1:53:31, 1:53:34]: Cuts in a row at the same time. [1:53:34, 1:53:38]: So we're just moving forward with substandard water service lines. [1:53:39, 1:53:42]: Okay, thank you. Any any uh questions, council at all? [1:53:42, 1:53:43]: And Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [1:53:44, 1:53:52]: Yeah, this is what I want to ask Mr. Air. In terms of what we've been doing, we've been dealing with uh a series of leaks in [1:53:53, 1:53:55]: throughout the system in itself. [1:53:55, 1:54:01]: Is there a comprehensive plan? Are we just going along fixing them as they come up? [1:54:01, 1:54:11]: Or is there some sort of plan that says this is what we're gonna do to get to the bottom of this? Because myself, as I go by Burrow Manders, I think it's on Celtic. [1:54:12, 1:54:18]: As I go by the the the administration building for the event staff, I think it's on septic. [1:54:19, 1:54:26]: Those types of things, and when I'm over at Merrill Mandas and I'm holding the campaign sign and the air, the stiff wind is blowing. [1:54:27, 1:54:32]: And we have those types of issues. It calls for a comprehensive plan. [1:54:32, 1:54:36]: I'm always said and I'm not a safe afraid to say this to the public. [1:54:36, 1:54:40]: Well the food truck tasty Tuesday over at Clark Park. [1:54:41, 1:54:45]: We have sewer overflows over there and heavy rains many times. [1:54:46, 1:54:47]: Many times. [1:54:48, 1:54:51]: Oh over and over again. We've had that. [1:54:51, 1:54:54]: It's standing out in the middle of the road, the manhole cover blows off. [1:54:55, 1:54:57]: The rain, the water's flowing out of it. [1:54:57, 1:54:59]: What do are we doing? [1:54:59, 1:55:01]: компрегенсивли [1:55:01, 1:55:13]: to fix these issues. We got the American Recovery Act funding coming in. But in essence, if we got buildings that we own right inside the city limits that are on septic. [1:55:13, 1:55:18]: What what is the plan to to get all of these buildings up to where they need to be at? [1:55:19, 1:55:23]: Well, there are no buildings inside the city limits of Stockbridge that are on septic. [1:55:23, 1:55:24]: Um [1:55:24, 1:55:29]: The system over that supplies the Merrill manus, which is it goes to Clark Park. [1:55:29, 1:55:33]: We'll be going out to be it in a couple of weeks. We've identified that project. [1:55:33, 1:55:39]: There is a top ten list of projects, water source, thong, water, and public works that were identified. [1:55:40, 1:55:45]: And we're working through that list to make comprehensive improvements to our stormwater, water, and sewer infrastructure. [1:55:46, 1:55:51]: And this is like the fourth or fifth project, sewer project that staff is working on. [1:55:51, 1:55:54]: We're replacing a sewer main that runs through Clark Park. [1:55:54, 1:56:02]: We brought that before council a couple of months ago. It's called a Burke Street Sewer Rehab. So we're working on that project. It will be out for bid. [1:56:03, 1:56:07]: I think the documents have been submitted to procurement to advertise it for me. [1:56:08, 1:56:13]: So we uh we do have a comprehensive plan of how we address our water, sewer, and stormwater infrastructure. [1:56:14, 1:56:15]: Okay. [1:56:15, 1:56:17]: Thank you. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:56:18, 1:56:27]: Yeah, Mr. Dacious or or Brad, how y'all doing tonight? Uh the the that vehicle that we purchase, is that a vehicle that the one that does the pumping? [1:56:27, 1:56:43]: Is that something now that we can use since we we're purchasing it as a city to kind of help alleviate some of these uh blockages or or whatever in in these drains to kind of catch it before it gets too bad? Is that I don't know if that is that what that purpose of that? [1:56:43, 1:56:45]: that vehicles for [1:56:45, 1:56:53]: Yes, sir. Brad and his staff, they do have a cleaning program. They have a regular maintenance where they go in and video. [1:56:53, 1:57:04]: and uh clean out lines as well that VAT contract would greatly help with that process. So they do have a a program of maintenance where they're videoing and cleaning store means. [1:57:05, 1:57:19]: And and the reason I'm asking because as you all know, this is the time of year where you know we're we're come you know everything's growing, but you know, uh with when about three months when all these leaves start falling. [1:57:19, 1:57:27]: Uh and then you and I have to go back to Mr. Alexander said, you know, and it leaves fall during campaign uh campaigning uh days. [1:57:28, 1:57:30]: And so we don't want everything backing up. So [1:57:31, 1:57:36]: Would this help alleviate those those drainage uh those clogging from leaves? Because I think [1:57:36, 1:57:42]: the number g get gets kind of higher during closer to fall months. Is that correct? I'm not sure. [1:57:42, 1:57:47]: Well, the reason in the fall you normally see sewer overflows is because [1:57:47, 1:58:07]: When it starts to cool, the the sewer collection system has grease floating in it year-round. During the summer, it stays liquefied. But as the weather starts to cool, grease starts to solidify in the collection system. So Brad and his staff, as I mentioned earlier, have a cleaning program to address these issues. We've got major projects coming up. [1:58:07, 1:58:27]: We've got another sewer project coming up with the Smith Barnes Sanitary Sewer Basin. We've used a combination of CDBG funds. We'll use fund balance blocks and the American Recovery Act funds. So we're addressing issues that have been here for over 60 plus years since this sewer system was here. And we're addressing those issues. [1:58:27, 1:58:47]: They didn't happen overnight and they're not going to get repaired overnight. But we have a plan of action on how we are addressing these issues. And one by one, we're crossing them off the list. And like I said, we're going to have four or five sewer projects that are coming up for bid. And also we'll have a couple of water projects that we're doing to make our system more dependable. [1:58:47, 1:58:48]: [7131.2, 7139.0]: Um council abundant, are you uh are you complete, sir? That's it. Well well, I mean, if unless Mr. Alexander has I was just gonna uh motion to approve the uh [1:59:00, 1:59:07]: approve the uh task order twenty nine for uh the okay you make you're making a motion is there a second is there a second [1:59:08, 1:59:13]: Uh Ms. Barber second Ms. Barber had to second that. Mayor Pro Tem further discussion. Go ahead. [1:59:14, 1:59:34]: I just wanted to to make sure that we were very, very clear. Now we had to report a spill. Is this issue that we're talking about related to that? Is this issue solved? Is it not gonna solve? Or is there something else that it would take to solve these uh particular areas, especially when it comes to [1:59:34, 1:59:36]: The overflows near [1:59:36, 1:59:38]: Uh Clark Parker Merlman. [1:59:40, 1:59:54]: This is Aaron or Bray, one of them. The the Burst Street project will address those concerns, but there is not a sewer collection system in America that does not experience sewer overflows during periods of heavy rain. [1:59:54, 1:59:55]: It does not. [1:59:56, 2:00:00]: fathom that you do not have skills, but we're working to address those concerns. [2:00:00, 2:00:05]: I can say the Burke Street Sewer Rehab Project will address that issue in Clark Park. [2:00:06, 2:00:11]: So we're gonna rehab that sewer main. And then when we do the Smith Barn Sanitary Sewer Basin. [2:00:11, 2:00:16]: That project will address those overflows we've had over there in Smith Barnes Basin. [2:00:17, 2:00:36]: So we're we're working our way to resolving these issues, but sewer collection systems gonna always, I worked with EPD for seven years. That's not a system I have come across that have not had inflow and infiltration or overflows. You just address it as best you can and we're taking the measures to address those concerns. [2:00:36, 2:00:41]: I certainly understand that, but when a cer when the same area is [2:00:41, 2:00:53]: the cause for concern. It is it has to be asked, is that particular area? You say Berk Street is going to address this issue. That is what you are saying. [2:00:53, 2:01:01]: Yes, sir. The Clark Park issue will be addressed by the product that will be bidding being advertised for bidding next couple couple of weeks. [2:01:01, 2:01:02]: Okay, thank you. [2:01:03, 2:01:05]: Any other comments for discussion? [2:01:06, 2:01:10]: If not, the motion was made and seconded. So all improv uh all that approved the motion, please indicate. [2:01:11, 2:01:15]: I okay, so it's unanimous. Thank you very much. Council, appreciate it. [2:01:15, 2:01:19]: Council consideration to approve task order number thirty with Carter and Sloop. [2:01:20, 2:01:29]: Uh water system improvements in around in amount, excuse me,$85,800. And funding source would be the water department fund balance. Mr. Aaron, please. [2:01:29, 2:01:49]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. This is a project that would uh provide some redundancy for the water's distribution system. One of the things about water systems is you try to make sure if you have a leak as fewer as people as possible are out of water, this will allow us to install some additional valves and have avenues to reroute reroute water in the [2:01:49, 2:02:08]: events of water leaks. Mr. Mullis has identified a lot of things in our distribution system. He brings a wealth of knowledge to the city of Stockbridge. He's been a utility contractor for over 27 years. He's bid at project, he's worked for Making Water Authority. He's worked for independent contractors and he's done a great job of [2:02:09, 2:02:15]: uh investigating our distribution system and made some recommendations and this will help with the redundancy. [2:02:15, 2:02:17]: And also make our system more reliable. [2:02:19, 2:02:22]: Okay, questions for Mr. Aaron, please. Counsel. [2:02:24, 2:02:28]: Seeing none. Is there a motion to accept this proposal? [2:02:30, 2:02:33]: So moved. Ms. Gantt, is there a second? [2:02:34, 2:02:39]: Second. Well, Councilman Blount had a sent what was a plan. So all right, any further discussion? [2:02:40, 2:02:41]: All in favor, please indicate. [2:02:42, 2:02:43]: Aye. [2:02:43, 2:02:46]: Okay, thank you. Unanimous decision. Appreciate that. Thank you. [2:02:47, 2:02:50]: Council consideration to approve tax order number. [2:02:52, 2:03:08]: Council consideration to approve task order number thirty one, McCarter and Sloop, Northbridge subdivision sanitary sewer main rehabilitation in the amount of hundred and seventy six thousand nine hundred dollars once again wastewater fund. Mr. Aaron, please. [2:03:08, 2:03:15]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. This problem will this task order is addressing a a problem that's long term problem. [2:03:15, 2:03:21]: dates back to the early 60s, the uh collection system within the subdivision is made of terracotta. [2:03:22, 2:03:24]: Terracotta was used in the early sixties. [2:03:25, 2:03:30]: is very brittle, is prone to have breaks and leaks and allow root intrusion. [2:03:30, 2:03:38]: So we're gonna go in and replace the entire collection system within that subdivision and make it a more viable system so that when staff have [2:03:38, 2:03:42]: has to clean out that system. They don't have any any issues with calling. [2:03:42, 2:03:47]: damaging problems because the terracotta piping is so brittle in that subdivision. [2:03:50, 2:03:52]: Okay, Council, any questions for Mr. Aaron at all? [2:03:54, 2:03:57]: Seeing none, I need a motion to accept the proposal. [2:03:57, 2:03:58]: Two more. [2:03:58, 2:03:59]: Is there a [2:04:00, 2:04:03]: Mr mr I got Mr. Blount, so moved to the second. [2:04:03, 2:04:04]: Circuit. [2:04:05, 2:04:09]: second any further discussion. [2:04:10, 2:04:11]: If not all in favor, please indicate. [2:04:13, 2:04:13]: Uh [2:04:15, 2:04:17]: Okay, she now she says, thank you very much. [2:04:18, 2:04:29]: Council of consideration to approve amendment to the city's ordinance to provide uh for the regulation of small box discount stores distant requirements. Uh Ms. Johnson and uh [2:04:30, 2:04:31]: Our attorney, Mr. Washington. [2:04:32, 2:04:32]: Please. [2:04:36, 2:04:39]: Yeah, Mr. W go ahead, Mr. Washington, go ahead. [2:04:39, 2:04:51]: This has just been the ordinance that have been requested by uh uh Mayor Pro Tem Alexander about exp expending expanding the small box to five miles. And so this is what we're representing the council for your consideration. [2:04:53, 2:04:58]: So qua let me ask this question. Is extended five miles, what is it right now? Three miles? [2:04:59, 2:05:00]: What [2:05:00, 2:05:03]: It's feet. Let me I'll have to pull it up. Hold on. [2:05:05, 2:05:08]: It's one mile. It's one mile. Oh one mile. [2:05:09, 2:05:10]: Right now. [2:05:11, 2:05:17]: It's currently one, but I believe this county is five. If not, is that correct, Mayor Pro Tem? [2:05:17, 2:05:31]: Yeah, that's five the county is five. We just simply mention what they do because what's gonna happen is if they have five and we have one, they're gonna find the holes uh in our ULDC and they're gonna find those available plots. So we're in line with them. [2:05:31, 2:05:38]: It helps uh for to protect us. So we're just the only thing that's changing is the distance to match up with what Henry County has. [2:05:40, 2:05:46]: And this is five the original ordinance that we had was a mileage just stated as five thousand two hundred and eighty. [2:05:47, 2:05:48]: That's cool. [2:05:50, 2:05:57]: Okay. And so if we approve this, that means any small box stores are grandfathered in. Is that correct? [2:05:57, 2:05:58]: Great. [2:06:00, 2:06:02]: All right, Councilman Blount, I saw your hand, sir. [2:06:02, 2:06:04]: I just like us to move to approve this amendment. [2:06:06, 2:06:07]: Okay, you're gonna make a motion? [2:06:07, 2:06:08]: A second. [2:06:10, 2:06:16]: Okay. Mr. Blount made a motion, uh, Councilwoman Gad, second any further discussion. [2:06:17, 2:06:19]: If not all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:06:20, 2:06:23]: Manage decision. Well there we go. All right. Fantastic. [2:06:24, 2:06:31]: Uh council consideration approval of amendment to the city's personnel possible policy. Uh Miss Wheeler, go ahead, please. [2:06:45, 2:06:48]: She's muted. [2:06:51, 2:06:53]: Renee you gotta unmute yourself. [2:06:53, 2:06:54]: There you go. [2:06:55, 2:06:56]: Well good evening. [2:06:56, 2:06:57]: Evening. [2:06:58, 2:07:00]: Uh the agenda item before you [2:07:01, 2:07:10]: Is to revise the performance and salary review policy, section 630.00 in the employee manual. [2:07:10, 2:07:12]: The evit the revision will read [2:07:13, 2:07:15]: Appointed employees [2:07:15, 2:07:18]: Сіті клек, сиді трежура, сиді менеджер. [2:07:18, 2:07:21]: City Attorney, Executive Assistant to Mayor and Counsel. [2:07:22, 2:07:28]: Will receive their annual performance reviews during the months of October through December in executive session. [2:07:30, 2:07:39]: Okay. Well let me let me say this. Um I'll start this off and I'm pretty sure the other comments. Uh for the record, I have to admit I'm not in favor of this particular move. [2:07:40, 2:08:00]: I honestly think that uh the people that are appointed by the council, uh mayor council should actually evaluate these individuals on their anniversary dates, which is already set in the personnel policy itself. Now, granted, I understand that I am a culprit of this along collectively with the council, that we have not routinely been doing this. [2:08:00, 2:08:15]: in a timely manner like we should have and we're quauled. I own that up along with members of the council. So I'm a culprit of this not doing the right thing in this aspect as well. And I think we honestly need to do that as opposed to making this particular change. So I just want to go on record and say that. [2:08:15, 2:08:32]: in this aspect. So I think that uh we should not do it this way. We should tighten up loose ends and do things the properly way that were initially approved in the in the policy, personnel policy. And we need to own up to things that we need to do and tighten it up in that aspect. Thank you. Any further comments? [2:08:34, 2:08:39]: No further comments. If they're not, then I need a motion to approve this uh amendment. [2:08:42, 2:08:42]: Yeah, forward. [2:08:43, 2:08:46]: Okay. It's been uh Councilman Barber, is there a second? [2:08:47, 2:08:49]: I'm sorry I didn't hear that. Who's that? [2:08:50, 2:08:50]: Right. [2:08:51, 2:08:51]: Who second that? [2:08:52, 2:08:53]: Second [2:08:53, 2:08:56]: Okay. So Barber makes in [2:08:57, 2:08:59]: And the mouse out or second that all all in favor? [2:09:01, 2:09:04]: Okay. Okay. See you next. All right. [2:09:05, 2:09:08]: All right, so now we move on here. Council consideration to approve the [2:09:09, 2:09:24]: Amphitheater change order number 77 and 78, an amount of$142,000,$269,$142,269, funding source bond, bond. And this is Mr. Knighton, along with uh Carl, project manager, please. [2:09:25, 2:09:29]: Yes, uh Mayor and for uh mayor mayor and council there is uh [2:09:30, 2:09:37]: request a change order here that we want you to consider. Carl will go through it with you. Um [2:09:37, 2:09:41]: And the sp the specifics of the particular change order itself. [2:09:42, 2:09:42]: Okay. [2:09:44, 2:09:47]: Good evening here and uh council. [2:09:47, 2:09:48]: Um [2:09:49, 2:09:54]: Going to share my screen so that we can kind of go through [2:09:57, 2:10:02]: the uh extent of this. Um so this particular um [2:10:04, 2:10:11]: Uh so um Randy, is this um um I've got two tonight, I wanna make sure I'm addressed the correct one. [2:10:12, 2:10:12]: Um [2:10:13, 2:10:17]: This is the perimeter fencing and black hole. No, no, this [2:10:18, 2:10:20]: Yes, yes, it is. Yes, it is. [2:10:21, 2:10:22]: Not that one first one. Yeah. [2:10:23, 2:10:37]: Um so there are two scope items that the city has requested be uh pursued um on the amphitheater project. So these are uh city requested scope changes. [2:10:38, 2:10:42]: Um and I wanna go back uh since we're talking about this one. [2:10:43, 2:10:47]: Again, uh mayor, just to clarify which one [2:10:48, 2:10:50]: We're talking about um [2:10:50, 2:10:55]: You read off, I think the second on the list on the agenda tonight, is that correct? [2:10:56, 2:10:56]: Right. [2:10:58, 2:11:04]: Mayor Mayor wait let's make sure we're clear here. The agenda item uh there are two agenda items. [2:11:04, 2:11:09]: Mayor, I believe you read off the amount of one hundred and forty [2:11:09, 2:11:13]: Two thousand two hundred sixty nine dollars. That's change order number seventy seven. [2:11:13, 2:11:18]: Right, and seventy eight. And that's one forty two. The hump one hundred and one is for the [2:11:18, 2:11:28]: uh proposed fencing and the other forty thousand in change is for adding three pat flag poles with lighting. So that is the item that we're discussing right now. [2:11:30, 2:11:35]: Right. So and I wanna back up and clarify because uh mayor, I think you also hadn't [2:11:35, 2:11:40]: Stated the funding source. Let's Randy, let's just state the funding source for this one before we go forward. [2:11:41, 2:11:42]: Proposed [2:11:43, 2:11:46]: The proposed funding source for this is fund balance. [2:11:46, 2:11:47]: Okay, then [2:11:48, 2:11:50]: Okay, well my copy says bond, but that's what it says. [2:11:51, 2:11:53]: Okay, so I went but but if it if it's uh [2:11:53, 2:12:13]: Yep, that is correct. That is correct, Mayor. On the agenda item, that is correct. That's what that what was on the agenda. On the agenda item, it does say fund balance. So I will make that clarification. And I'm uh and also did the forty thousand dollars you're referring to, uh it didn't see that on here. It might be in the documents, but it wasn't on the written uh written uh format uh for the clarifying. [2:12:13, 2:12:13]: Yeah, yeah. [2:12:14, 2:12:14]: Okay. [2:12:16, 2:12:18]: All right, so let's let's kind of start all over again. [2:12:18, 2:12:31]: So for this change order, this is two scope items requested by the city to be added to the um uh to the project. And um [2:12:32, 2:12:52]: The first one is that's in in this particular change or is to add fencing and landscape buffer to the I think this is the north, at least it's a planned north side of the project. So let me get you oriented as to what you're looking at on this drawing. [2:12:52, 2:12:56]: Uh you can can everybody see my cursor hand? [2:12:56, 2:13:02]: moving around here. Okay. Yeah. So this is this is the amphitheater down here. [2:13:03, 2:13:08]: Uh this is the main drive that goes that we built through the the middle of the project. [2:13:08, 2:13:18]: And all of this over here is the phase two parking and the ponds. I think that should get you oriented as to what we're looking at. Any questions so far? [2:13:20, 2:13:21]: I don't think so. Go ahead, sir. [2:13:21, 2:13:29]: The requested scope um for the fixing in landscape buffer involves adding a um [2:13:29, 2:13:31]: Uh forty uh [2:13:32, 2:13:35]: Two inch, I'm sorry, a sixty inch tall. [2:13:35, 2:13:42]: I focal uh fence uh where you see this red line along this property line here. [2:13:43, 2:13:47]: to this point here. So that's about eight hundred and fifty four total feet. [2:13:48, 2:13:54]: Of this five foot fencing and the same fencing that you see that's where in the amphitheater project that [2:13:55, 2:13:59]: that surrounds and secures the action at the theater. So it's that black aluminum [2:14:00, 2:14:01]: uh ornamental fencing. [2:14:02, 2:14:05]: Uh and we've indicated two gate openings. [2:14:05, 2:14:10]: Uh this is for these will be locked, it's for maintenance purposes. [2:14:10, 2:14:12]: And and here's blue uh [2:14:13, 2:14:14]: Here's blue dots. [2:14:15, 2:14:16]: Okay. [2:14:16, 2:14:21]: We we ended the fence here uh for several reasons. [2:14:22, 2:14:29]: Uh this will tie into a neighbor's fence that continues along this property line here. I believe it's a chainling fence. [2:14:30, 2:14:38]: This is also going to get heavily wooded area once the landscaping that's installed around this pond gets into full maturity. [2:14:39, 2:14:45]: Uh and it's uh also the terrain is is slopes quite a bit here, so [2:14:45, 2:15:00]: So we didn't successfully continue a fence when we have a fence. And then as we move over to this area, that's where we run into the creek bank, which provides a kind of a natural security buffer right there. [2:15:00, 2:15:07]: Um so and along with this is a lot of uh evergreen type planting. [2:15:07, 2:15:11]: uh along here, some some larger, some smaller. [2:15:11, 2:15:12]: Uh [2:15:12, 2:15:13]: uh for plants [2:15:14, 2:15:17]: Along this property line. [2:15:17, 2:15:19]: He's had for visual buttons. [2:15:20, 2:15:23]: uh between the proper owners of [2:15:23, 2:15:25]: And the parking lot here. [2:15:26, 2:15:36]: Um, so that is the extent of the first part of the change order and that tools$101,598. [2:15:37, 2:15:45]: And then the other um forty thousand six hundred and seventy-one that makes the total of this change is to add. [2:15:45, 2:15:47]: Uh the three flagpoles here. [2:15:47, 2:15:51]: Just outside the amphitheater, visible from inside the amphitheater. [2:15:52, 2:15:54]: Uh, these flag poles are. [2:15:55, 2:15:59]: price right now to be ground mounted on concrete pedestals. [2:15:59, 2:16:01]: We'll have additional lighting light. [2:16:02, 2:16:02]: Yeah. [2:16:03, 2:16:04]: The flag poles. [2:16:05, 2:16:09]: I believe the American flag center one's a twenty five foot pole. [2:16:09, 2:16:12]: And the two other poles that flank it are twenty foot poles. [2:16:12, 2:16:22]: Uh price also includes having to rearrange existing landscaping and aeration in this area in order to install the flagpoles. [2:16:23, 2:16:27]: uh one caveat about this. I don't think should [2:16:27, 2:16:30]: Change your approval process tonight, but [2:16:30, 2:16:31]: Um [2:16:31, 2:16:33]: We are looking at an option. [2:16:34, 2:16:40]: uh to mount those flagpoles actually to the to the concrete uh wall [2:16:41, 2:16:44]: That exists right here that uh delineates the amphitheater. [2:16:45, 2:16:46]: Um [2:16:46, 2:16:48]: And if we can do that or that [2:16:49, 2:16:54]: from an engineering perspective, sure that the wall was holding the plant holes up there. [2:16:54, 2:16:55]: And um [2:16:55, 2:17:04]: Uh if we're successful in doing that, we're we're looking at saving eight to ten thousand dollars off of this forty thousand dollars tag. [2:17:05, 2:17:07]: Um, but I don't want that to [2:17:08, 2:17:11]: We didn't want that process to slow down this approval. [2:17:11, 2:17:16]: tonight because we do need to go ahead and get the five pools on order and move on with this. [2:17:17, 2:17:26]: Um so if we do realize additional savings here we'll bring that back to the city council and let you know that we were able to save some additional monies. [2:17:27, 2:17:35]: Uh so that is the extent of this change order and the um the scope that's included in it. So [2:17:35, 2:17:41]: Any questions? Yeah, Carl, first of all, the flagpole is US State and City, is that correct? [2:17:43, 2:17:46]: Um I I know that we're getting three flag poles. [2:17:46, 2:17:48]: Uh I do believe that [2:17:49, 2:17:49]: Um [2:17:51, 2:17:56]: I'm not really sure if the flags are actually included in that pricing. I'll go back a little, but I I think you're right it is. [2:17:57, 2:18:00]: Uh state city media maritime. [2:18:00, 2:18:05]: Right. Similar to what we right, that's correct. Similar to what we have on the other side of City Hall. [2:18:05, 2:18:06]: Okay, right. [2:18:06, 2:18:08]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [2:18:08, 2:18:21]: That's exactly the point. I mean, this is that this is already on the same campus. We have flags already, because you can't get to the amphitheater literally without driving by City Hall and then that whole complex. [2:18:21, 2:18:32]: The original plan did it call for flags here or was that something that was added on? Because literally on the other side of City Hall, you have three flagpes with the American flag. [2:18:32, 2:18:38]: The Georgia flag and the city and the side. [2:18:38, 2:18:42]: Well the the issue, Mayor Pro Tem, and obviously this is for the council to approve. [2:18:43, 2:18:51]: Is that if you're in the amphitheater, you cannot see the flags from the amphitheater. Remember, the amphitheater goes down into a bowl in City Hall. [2:18:51, 2:18:53]: is right behind [2:18:53, 2:19:00]: On the rear side of the amphitheater, so you can't see those American or American state and city flags, you can't see the flagpole. [2:19:00, 2:19:03]: arrangement when you're in the amphitheater. [2:19:03, 2:19:06]: In this situation, you would be able to view it. [2:19:07, 2:19:11]: Um from the amphitheaters you're seated for whatever events or [2:19:11, 2:19:14]: um activities take place there. And that was [2:19:14, 2:19:32]: part of the impetus for this. But again, I would I would add to it, I think it's proper protocol to have the the flags there anyway, of this venue of this type in this aspect as well. And uh so I I think it's more proper to do that. And uh amount of money we're spending was forty thousand dollars these days, right? Anyway. [2:19:33, 2:19:34]: Any other comments? [2:19:36, 2:19:38]: All right, there are no other comments at all. [2:19:39, 2:19:40]: Then I need a motion to accept this proposal. [2:19:43, 2:19:43]: Is there a motion? [2:19:44, 2:19:49]: Miss Barber has her hand up. Okay, I can't sorry, I gotta scroll down there. I'm sorry, Miss Barber. Go ahead. You got a question? [2:19:50, 2:19:51]: Or you won't make the motion. [2:19:52, 2:19:59]: Um Mr. Travatan was explaining about an alternative for um [2:20:00, 2:20:02]: The flag posts. [2:20:04, 2:20:06]: The alternative is cheaper. [2:20:06, 2:20:10]: than actually installing, I guess, cementing coal. [2:20:11, 2:20:12]: Is that what you were saying? [2:20:12, 2:20:13]: Can you explain? [2:20:14, 2:20:22]: Okay. Sure, I'll have to go back to that again. Um, so this pricing that that I've presented tonight includes ground mounted flagpoles. [2:20:23, 2:20:28]: Which means that they are installed on concrete base that's gonna be uh dug into the ground. [2:20:28, 2:20:33]: Uh the alternative is to actually attach the flag holes to the [2:20:33, 2:20:37]: uh a concrete retaining wall that you're looking at out there. [2:20:38, 2:20:44]: Um so it would play ha having a couple of things you would have to do the uh [2:20:44, 2:20:46]: Uh the creative tool bases. [2:20:47, 2:20:48]: So you'd say that money. [2:20:48, 2:20:54]: And you'd also save money for uh rearranging some of the landscaping that would be affected in this area. [2:20:55, 2:20:55]: Um [2:20:56, 2:21:03]: So that that's the savings and it would be eight to ten thousand. We don't know the exact amount yet'cause we have not engineered that solution. [2:21:03, 2:21:06]: But um being told that it's uh eight to ten thousand dollars stable. [2:21:09, 2:21:11]: All right. Is that ask your question, Ms. Barber? [2:21:13, 2:21:16]: I wanted to ask a follow up question if you're gonna go right in, please. Go ahead. [2:21:16, 2:21:17]: Thank you. [2:21:17, 2:21:21]: So um the alternative would it be a fixed [2:21:21, 2:21:23]: To the side of [2:21:23, 2:21:24]: The building. [2:21:26, 2:21:38]: Talking about the the the the cheaper the cheaper version. Yeah, they would be attached to the side of that concrete wall that goes right along the seating where my car's at. [2:21:38, 2:21:57]: be on the outside you wouldn't actually see the attachment when you're setting inside the amphitheater. It'll be attached to the inside of that wall. So from the amphitheater, it really does there's no difference in the site and what you're looking at. It's just a a a uh less expensive way to mount those poles. [2:21:57, 2:22:10]: Okay, and I can kind of visualize what you are explaining there. I'd much rather have that as opposed to having a um post in the middle of or on or near the sidewalk. [2:22:11, 2:22:12]: Um [2:22:12, 2:22:13]: So [2:22:13, 2:22:14]: Yeah. [2:22:14, 2:22:18]: Okay, thank you. Councilman Blount, we've got [2:22:18, 2:22:35]: Arrangement of the fed pole would still be in this general location. So um really they're not gonna be close to the sidewalk along the main drive that would occur here. So the petpoles are still gonna be tucked up pretty close to concrete walls there now, even if we ground those. [2:22:37, 2:22:38]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [2:22:39, 2:22:46]: Yeah, mayor, uh just to give the council something to think about because you know I've been to several venues. [2:22:46, 2:22:49]: And they've had flagposts, uh [2:22:50, 2:22:55]: um outs you know have flagpoles outside but they're they're [2:22:55, 2:22:56]: They're tall. [2:22:57, 2:23:08]: But they'll sit, they f sit it doesn't have to be right inside the venue wall. I mean, right close to the right inside, you know, close in. They because they're so tall. [2:23:08, 2:23:28]: And you know, to have one with the city stop bridge, uh and and the America flag and and uh um you know uh where community connects and and if we're celebrating certain months to have uh have that flag replaced the where community connect. I I think it's I think it's not [2:23:28, 2:23:30]: Nice. I mean, you know, uh [2:23:30, 2:23:37]: Flags at venues, I think, are nice. Um, but it's it's the placement of them, and I don't want to attach to a [2:23:38, 2:23:42]: I wouldn't want to see it attached to a a wall or anything. I because I've seen those [2:23:43, 2:23:50]: flag poles that are at venues, but they're kind of off, but you can still see the flag uh waving and I I just think it's a [2:23:50, 2:23:53]: You know, it wouldn't take away from empathy and I think it, you know. [2:23:55, 2:24:02]: For me, I'm I'm just trying to figure out where where are you actually trying to place these. Can you use your pointer one more one more time to show me where you're [2:24:02, 2:24:03]: Try to play. [2:24:04, 2:24:06]: The flags would go right in this area. [2:24:07, 2:24:17]: Um which is outside the wall of the amphitheater. So it's not not not a whole lot further away. But I'll I will say this, we put them anywhere. [2:24:17, 2:24:35]: Wherever wherever you want to put'em. Um it's just with the visibility to the seating um that we we believe that's being asked for, uh that we put'em just outside the wall uh in this location. Um they get away. [2:24:37, 2:24:57]: Sorry, to me. I'm sorry to cut you off. I it's kind of a delay and I didn't know if you was finished. To me, you know, if you when you have those lar large flagposts, they're usually off uh way off near the parking area or something like that where you're gonna be in entering the facility, but you can still see it because they're pretty tall. [2:24:57, 2:24:58]: And uh [2:24:58, 2:25:18]: But I think, you know, for me, uh I I I don't think it takes away from the amphitheater to have us see the stop bridge flag, American flag, and uh where where community connects and then we split we switch to community connect for different uh um for different, you know, when we have uh child abuse month or this different. [2:25:18, 2:25:22]: different different months we put a different flag on for what we're celebrating. [2:25:22, 2:25:25]: Um, so I mean that's just a suggestion. [2:25:26, 2:25:45]: Well, I'll offer this um in response to that, uh, Councilman. This right here in relation to the seat is actually pretty tall. It's a security wall. So it's it's it's pretty tall. Um if I'm recalling, it's at least eight foot above the seating area. [2:25:45, 2:25:49]: So the further you pull the flat ball away from this wall. [2:25:51, 2:25:57]: the less you're gonna see those fly holes because of that the height of that wall as you're looking at it from inside the amphitheater. [2:25:59, 2:26:13]: Well, I would suggest there, Carl, that and hopefully council I recommend that you put it somewhere that you can see it from the amphitheater on the inside and it need to be individual poles for those three flag poles concreted in. It's a$20 million amphitheater, stated art. [2:26:14, 2:26:27]: You don't need to go cheap with with with am with flagposts. Just get put a nice solid concreted uh individual flagpole for the three flags to be to fly or our venue. I mean that's just my recommendation, folks. Uh mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [2:26:27, 2:26:45]: Uh I could kind of go along with that, but the issue is I what he's saying is that this wasn't originally in the plan. We gotta tear something up in order to put the flags in the location where they are. Is there another more suitable location where they can go without tearing up the concrete? [2:26:47, 2:26:54]: Well, Ms. Alexander, what I I'm sorry to cut you off real quick. What I was saying is most of the venues that I've seen. [2:26:54, 2:27:03]: Those flagpoles can be seen from the amphitheater at some point where the entry of uh with the entry of vehicles coming in. [2:27:04, 2:27:19]: The way the way the amphitheaters is situated, whether we put it on the East Atlanta side that's sitting high, or we put it on the Lee Street side, they're sitting high. They still can be seen. Uh is all just determining where you wanna where you wanna sit'em because we're not talking about eight feet. We're [2:27:20, 2:27:22]: We're we're talking about thirty to forty feet high. [2:27:22, 2:27:23]: Or more. [2:27:24, 2:27:44]: Yeah. All I was trying to say was again was that I don't want to have to tear the place up because since we've already done something, there should be a smarter way to put the flags in a location that is visible. I can understand what the mayor is saying because you do uh in in retrospect if they're not visible from the front side of city hall is to [2:27:44, 2:27:57]: be able to when you're having a ceremony or something, you want to be able to appropriately respect the flag and you want it to represent uh the facility was in. My concern is I the what was stated by Mr. Trebathan is that they have to [2:27:58, 2:28:01]: basically tear up what they've already done. That doesn't seem smart. [2:28:04, 2:28:21]: Hey Carlton, it really just involves um I hear you Peyton, I'll let you talk just a second. Um, but it really just involves, you know, just a few plantings that are right in this immediate area. Uh I I hear Peyton, who is the uh civil engineer on the line, I think he wants to comment about [2:28:21, 2:28:24]: That le uh last question. Go ahead, Peyton. [2:28:24, 2:28:31]: Sure. Thanks, Carl. Hey everyone. Yes, um Peyton Peterson with TSW Design Landscape Architect on the project. [2:28:31, 2:28:36]: We explored with HJ Russell what would be the least intrusive area. [2:28:36, 2:28:41]: uh to the as built conditions in the field currently to date. [2:28:41, 2:28:49]: Um and still be seen from within the amphitheater proper, um, the limits of the wall essentially inwards. [2:28:49, 2:28:52]: And this was the um [2:28:53, 2:28:57]: least destructive to what is currently uh built in the field. [2:28:58, 2:29:15]: and still have the best views from the amphitheater, um, nothing blocking it, and would be prominent, a prominent view of the three flags. Um, so with this area, we're talking about relocating a few of the trees that are planted in the immediate vicinity. [2:29:15, 2:29:21]: Um and then pending on if you guys wanna do a ground uh embedding concrete pad. [2:29:21, 2:29:23]: Or on the wall. [2:29:23, 2:29:24]: Um [2:29:25, 2:29:45]: It would essentially just if it's a concrete pad, they will have to have some sort of machinery to uh get the concrete over there that could pump it from the roadway. But uh there could be potential of a little bit of sod being damaged, but mostly it's just soft scape material. Everywhere else that we looked at, there was some hard hardscape and you [2:29:45, 2:30:00]: utility infrastructure um limitations that um really weren't feasible. In this area, we don't have um really any utility lines running in this area or hardscape materials that we're gonna have to be ripping out. [2:30:00, 2:30:05]: So that is that's sort of where we end how we ended up with this location. [2:30:05, 2:30:06]: Um [2:30:07, 2:30:13]: And again, as Carl mentioned, twenty feet for both the city and state and then twenty five for the US flag. [2:30:16, 2:30:18]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [2:30:20, 2:30:24]: You we we got three three ponds that's gonna be out there. So [2:30:25, 2:30:28]: Near one of those ponds with the height of those flags. [2:30:29, 2:30:32]: That all three ponds can be all three [2:30:32, 2:30:42]: uh location can be seen by the amphitheater. We couldn't we could I I I just got for me, I just have a problem with those flags sitting right there back close to the amphitheater for me. [2:30:43, 2:30:54]: I don't know about the other council member. I I I just think those flags could sit off somewhere and they're tall enough. I I don't think I wanna I would wanna see those flags sitting right there up on the amphitheater like that. [2:30:57, 2:31:17]: That's uh that's typically where they would be, I would think. But I I would I would think they need to be really close to the amphitheater so you can see it from the amphitheater. You can see it there. But anyway, once again, that's just my thoughts. But that look there I go again, Mayor. All three of those ponds, if a flag, if a 30-foot flagpole is by either one of those ponds, it could be seen from that whole area. [2:31:18, 2:31:27]: Why would we want to put those flags that close up on the amphitheater? I mean, when I go to other venues, they're not up close, they're they're off. [2:31:28, 2:31:39]: Go to Atlanta Raceway, for example. You see where those flags are? Go to Talladega. Go to the go to uh different uh other amphitheaters that have flags. They're not right up on the amphitheater, they're they're sitting off. [2:31:41, 2:31:55]: Just to keep in mind, if um we also did look at possibly relocating the flags on the north side of this new through road near closer to the ponds. Um one thing that we felt was uh [2:31:55, 2:32:15]: you know, sort of a disadvantage from that viewpoint is you there will be these street trees that align the road that are currently installed out there already that at mature height are going to be forty, fifty feet tall. Um, there's also, you know, trees around in and around the pond and then also evergreen trees up against the uh amphitheater. [2:32:15, 2:32:19]: outer wall area that will have some height to them. [2:32:23, 2:32:24]: All right, any further comments, council? [2:32:27, 2:32:33]: All right, if there are no further comments, then I need a motion to accept the proposal. This change order. [2:32:34, 2:32:34]: Mm-hmm. [2:32:35, 2:32:39]: Okay, that was uh that's Councilman uh Councilwoman Barber. Is there a second? [2:32:40, 2:32:40]: Second. [2:32:41, 2:32:44]: We have airport ten miles on any further discussion. [2:32:44, 2:32:47]: If not all in favor, please indicate. [2:32:48, 2:32:49]: Okay. [2:32:49, 2:33:05]: Okay. I believe that's unanimous. I saw everybody's hand, I believe. Okay. Okay. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Mayor, I have I have stayed, Mayor. I just don't want yeah, I don't I just don't think we I just don't want to see those flag poles that okay. I'm sorry. So it's uh four zero one, I believe it is. I'm sorry, sir. [2:33:06, 2:33:14]: There we go, thank you. All right, and so uh we'll go to the next thing: council consideration to approve amphitheater change order number seventy-four. [2:33:14, 2:33:23]: In the amount of two hundred and ten thousand six hundred and sixty-one dollars, funding source. I guess this is fund balance and not bond, right? And Mr. Nighting and Carl, please. [2:33:24, 2:33:44]: No, actually this is uh Yeah, this is the bond. This is the bond. Yes, yes, yes. This is the bond. All right. Yes, yes. This was accounted for in the monies that were set aside for the bond and was part of what was uh anticipated and expected. All right. And I'll let uh Mr. Uh Trevathan again uh go through the particulars. [2:33:44, 2:33:45]: Okay. Sure. [2:33:46, 2:33:48]: Um yeah, real quick. Um [2:33:48, 2:33:55]: back when we presented this phase two parking, the big project, and you approved that. [2:33:55, 2:34:03]: Um we had not yet designed all the landscaping uh in this area, um a phase two area. [2:34:04, 2:34:05]: Um [2:34:05, 2:34:06]: Mainly [2:34:06, 2:34:11]: time purposes, we wanted to go ahead and get that to um approved so [2:34:12, 2:34:14]: Set aside a two hundred thousand dollars allowance. [2:34:15, 2:34:17]: Uh that was included there. [2:34:17, 2:34:19]: For this landscaping. [2:34:19, 2:34:24]: We've since designed the landscaping and the associated irrigation. [2:34:24, 2:34:26]: Uh the total cost of that is two hundred and [2:34:27, 2:34:29]: ten thousand six sixty one [2:34:29, 2:34:38]: Um and that was not the first number, so we massage this quite a bit to get this uh close to the allowance that we put in the project. [2:34:38, 2:34:42]: And still have a robust uh landscaping. [2:34:42, 2:34:45]: uh design full space parking. [2:34:45, 2:34:46]: Um, so [2:34:47, 2:34:52]: The the two hundred thousand dollar allowance that we included in previous approval. [2:34:53, 2:34:58]: uh covers most of this, the balance of it, which is a little over ten thousand dollars. [2:34:58, 2:35:08]: uh will be uh funded through the contingency and object which still is uh is a bit healthy for this point in the project. So I'm pretty happy about that. [2:35:08, 2:35:14]: uh we can cover this uh thousand dollar overage through that contingency amount. So [2:35:14, 2:35:18]: Uh there is no additional funding needed for this. The reason has come before you. [2:35:19, 2:35:25]: is that we do have to transfer the allocation from the the project intensity. [2:35:25, 2:35:30]: into the contractor's contract via chain holder because of the size of the chain order. [2:35:30, 2:35:34]: Uh it has to come to you, uh, the city council approval. [2:35:35, 2:35:35]: All right. [2:35:35, 2:35:37]: Go ahead, Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [2:35:37, 2:35:47]: Yes, uh basically that was a awesome explanation. Uh it's already fully funded. And I think truly from seeing what they've shown me so far and us. [2:35:48, 2:35:51]: This will be even more po as popular. [2:35:51, 2:35:56]: as the amphitheater for a walking course so this is simply going to be amazing. So [2:35:56, 2:36:01]: Uh he's answered all my questions, so I'll go ahead and make a motion to move forward. [2:36:01, 2:36:03]: Uh with this request because [2:36:03, 2:36:07]: It's already covered financially and uh it's it's worth it's worthwhile. [2:36:08, 2:36:09]: Okay, is there a second? [2:36:11, 2:36:12]: Is there a second? [2:36:13, 2:36:16]: Uh Miss Barber second then. Okay. Any further discussion? [2:36:16, 2:36:19]: If not, all in favor, please indicate. [2:36:20, 2:36:27]: Okay, I believe this is you uh there we go. All right, we're it's announced season. Fantastic. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [2:36:28, 2:36:34]: Okay, discussion purposes, council discussion, amphitheater status update and operation. Mr. Knighton, please. [2:36:34, 2:36:38]: Yes, Carl is still there. Carl, you still where's Carl? Still there? [2:36:39, 2:36:45]: Yeah, you still have you still there, right? Yeah, yeah. Carl and I perhaps will tag team on this one as well. [2:36:45, 2:36:49]: Mayor, just wanted to give a brief update on um the amphitheater. [2:36:49, 2:36:51]: Um project itself. [2:36:52, 2:36:56]: And um you know, where things stand uh overall. [2:36:56, 2:36:59]: Um with the amphitheater, let me see if I can [2:37:04, 2:37:05]: Well [2:37:06, 2:37:06]: Yeah. [2:37:08, 2:37:15]: Well, I was gonna show some uh photos of the amphitheater, but the the project basically is coming to a close with respect to [2:37:15, 2:37:25]: The building side. On the buildings, they're going through several things now. Basically some punch list items on the the building itself. [2:37:26, 2:37:30]: Um um they're of course doing the grading and phase two parking. [2:37:31, 2:37:36]: Um uh is coming to completion and they've done the retaining wall along Atlanta Road, East Atlanta. [2:37:36, 2:37:44]: Um they're installing uh uh light poles in phase two and landscaping in in phase two uh again with the items that [2:37:45, 2:37:48]: Have been approved tonight, and so that is moving forward. [2:37:48, 2:37:49]: Um [2:37:49, 2:37:51]: uh with that portion of the project. [2:37:52, 2:37:56]: In addition, um there'll be some fiber installation we this week. [2:37:57, 2:38:03]: um for uh internet internet and wifi access uh that is being done. [2:38:04, 2:38:05]: Uh Johnson control. [2:38:06, 2:38:08]: Uh has been out there with uh security systems. [2:38:09, 2:38:10]: Um as well. [2:38:11, 2:38:16]: And uh ensuring that um as the project comes to a close on the building side. [2:38:17, 2:38:21]: That everything is in order, of course, with a project of this magnitude. [2:38:21, 2:38:25]: There will continue to be uh some items that um will need to be [2:38:26, 2:38:27]: Uh just [2:38:27, 2:38:29]: Um cleaned up, tidied up. [2:38:29, 2:38:31]: Um over the uh [2:38:32, 2:38:34]: The next uh few weeks. [2:38:34, 2:38:37]: uh as we close out the project uh in particular. [2:38:38, 2:38:38]: Um [2:38:39, 2:38:45]: Uh Carl, if there was anything you wanted to add as it relates to that in terms of closing out in the items that are currently being [2:38:46, 2:38:49]: uh worked, uh that would be helpful as well. [2:38:50, 2:38:53]: Um projector had received their [2:38:54, 2:38:58]: Final expenses and and certificate of occupancy for all the buildings. [2:38:58, 2:39:02]: Um rows are are done and the punch lists are done. [2:39:02, 2:39:05]: Uh uh well there are a few [2:39:08, 2:39:16]: We're looking at a few things from an operational standpoint and we may are looking at doing a few changes, nothing of any huge significance. [2:39:17, 2:39:30]: There are a few uh punch list items on the site that are to be complete and once completed we'll get a certificate from the city and that close out uh phase one. [2:39:31, 2:39:40]: Um and then uh Randy, you're correct on phase two, uh landscaping is about ninety percent done, eighty to ninety percent done. [2:39:40, 2:39:42]: Uh they're doing the the paving work now, so [2:39:43, 2:39:58]: the kind of things that tend to our contingency, uh unsuitable spoils, things like that, that creep up on us. Uh all that's behind us. So we're really uh we're really working the surface of the parking lot and getting that completed. [2:39:59, 2:40:03]: Uh I'm in the uh completion for that contractually lies. [2:40:04, 2:40:06]: Um the [2:40:07, 2:40:07]: Um [2:40:10, 2:40:20]: The additional items that you approved tonight will not be completed by July fifteenth. I think that's gonna run through about mid August before we can get perimeter fencing up. [2:40:20, 2:40:23]: And the and the landscape above that and the and the black holes. [2:40:24, 2:40:28]: The the balance of the phase two parking to be done mid line. [2:40:31, 2:40:38]: Carl, if I understand if I understand you said the the parking lot and the green space area primarily be done by mid July. If that is that what I understood? [2:40:39, 2:40:44]: Contractually, yes, and they look like they're trying to defend that. Um [2:40:45, 2:40:54]: It my gut feeling is I'm looking at three or four weeks of of work left. So it may a little past mid July, but certainly before the end of July. [2:40:54, 2:40:57]: All right. Thank you, sir. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [2:40:57, 2:41:01]: Yeah, so Carl, thank you. So as we close out this project. [2:41:01, 2:41:06]: How much funding will be left in this contingency fund? Would there be any funding left in? [2:41:07, 2:41:09]: Um I'm I'm gonna all be guarded. [2:41:09, 2:41:21]: Answering that question um because we don't know what happened between now and the end, but uh our risks are behind us. Um there is um if [2:41:22, 2:41:32]: you know be totally transparent there's about 80,000 in our agency that's not uh that is unass called unassigned. There's there's nothing to to eat that up. [2:41:33, 2:41:36]: Um, unless we decide to do something different. [2:41:37, 2:41:57]: uh on the project. Um we look at things operationally at the elevator and how it operates and other things, there may be some some scope items that we've been uh to make the to make the place better. So I don't want to say that whole 80,000 or so is going to be available at the end, but I'm happy that at the [2:41:57, 2:42:01]: this point in the project that our continued is robust that we can handle. [2:42:01, 2:42:03]: No, a few things might come up at the end. [2:42:04, 2:42:13]: The reason I asked that question is we have proposed sidewalks on that um on the on the north side bank as you approach. [2:42:13, 2:42:15]: North Lee Street. [2:42:15, 2:42:23]: And we were looking at um that doing that project because there's only sidewalks on one side of the street. [2:42:23, 2:42:26]: There wasn't sidewalks on that second side of the street. [2:42:26, 2:42:30]: by the third pond which is leading down to North Lee Street. [2:42:30, 2:42:31]: So [2:42:31, 2:42:36]: If we decided to circle back to that project and put sidewalks on the other side. [2:42:36, 2:42:40]: If this money is going to be there, we don't know that, but as we get closer. [2:42:40, 2:42:43]: Maybe we could circle back to that. That's why I wanna know how much money. [2:42:44, 2:42:45]: Might possibly be left over. [2:42:46, 2:42:49]: uh in that pot. So you could if you would come back and [2:42:49, 2:42:52]: update us at the end and how much money was left over, I think. [2:42:53, 2:43:01]: We might want to add those additional sidewalks. Uh, if the group uh were to do so, we spoke on wanting to do so. I think we were told there was gonna be [2:43:02, 2:43:22]: Some additional grading and all of that is concerned. I would think hopefully$80,000 would be enough to cover that. But uh if you would come back to us. And Mr. Wiggins, uh, it's the end of June. We've been hearing all year about how it's going to be. We're gonna hear Malden and Jenkins. They're not here. So uh did they give [2:43:22, 2:43:27]: give you some information on what the budget surplus is or do we have [2:43:27, 2:43:32]: That number, uh, we were looking at your projection at being over two million dollars. [2:43:32, 2:43:40]: What has Malden and Jenkins told you at this point when we were told that they were gonna be at this meeting at the end, but we would have those numbers by the end of June. [2:43:43, 2:43:47]: Um, I wasn't aware that they were supposed to be at this meeting, but um Yeah, we [2:43:48, 2:44:05]: And for clarification, we have Maltin Jenkins and a mid-year report scheduled for our next work session in July. Yeah, end of July. Yes. We've got them scheduled or would have them scheduled as well as I already talked to Mr. Wiggins about having that mid-year report in the July because [2:44:06, 2:44:13]: Obviously the first six months is June. And so for everything to reconcile, we'll be ready to do that uh in the second meeting in July to have that report. [2:44:13, 2:44:18]: That's right. Okay, okay. Well maybe I I I heard I got that wrong. I was thinking that normally we would have [2:44:19, 2:44:23]: uh a number by this point, even though we don't have the final report. [2:44:23, 2:44:27]: Pretty much they got it nailed down. So we have anything on that? [2:44:28, 2:44:29]: But uh um [2:44:30, 2:44:35]: For the fun for the you you're talking about for the fund balance? Talking about fund balance, yeah. Fund balance for general fund. [2:44:36, 2:44:37]: Yeah, well um [2:44:38, 2:44:39]: I know we initially uh [2:44:40, 2:44:42]: Had a number with uh [2:44:42, 2:44:46]: Ed Wall and when we did went through and did the uh five year [2:44:46, 2:44:47]: Projection. [2:44:48, 2:44:48]: Uh [2:44:48, 2:44:51]: More things has camp come back and this is um [2:44:53, 2:44:56]: Um, you know, not not official until we can um [2:44:57, 2:45:02]: uh sign off on it, but the number is coming out with the corrections that we went back and made. [2:45:03, 2:45:06]: Uh fund based is gonna be seventeen million. [2:45:07, 2:45:19]: Okay, so the bond balance would be seventeen million and the portion coming out of this year would be how much? Was was it cl was the two point five that you stated for this current year? Or was it more than that? [2:45:20, 2:45:21]: Mm. Yeah. [2:45:22, 2:45:23]: You may saw [2:45:23, 2:45:24]: I'm sorry for you. [2:45:25, 2:45:34]: Because we were fourteen million, now we're at seven we the projection it was fourteen million. The projection now is seventeen, so that's close to three million dollars being added. [2:45:35, 2:45:48]: I just want us to be careful. The audit comes back in full. I just, you know. Yes, yes, we do expect there to be a positive increase from fund balance. We expect that. [2:45:49, 2:45:54]: I just you know, until the auditors have a chance to finalize everything with their official [2:45:55, 2:45:59]: uh documentation and completion. I just you know, I'm always [2:45:59, 2:46:01]: Want to be conservative about that. [2:46:04, 2:46:08]: Mr. Wiggins, you still checking out something here or or not? Yeah, because you know. [2:46:08, 2:46:11]: Last year was nineteen made, so this year [2:46:11, 2:46:14]: It's gonna be seventeen seventeen means. So we [2:46:15, 2:46:16]: It's going down. [2:46:17, 2:46:23]: Right, we well remember remember we're taking out we've taken out a portion of our money for the amphitheater project. [2:46:23, 2:46:24]: Yeah. [2:46:25, 2:46:31]: That's the reason why that we that would be accounted for. So even though the fund balance has gone down, obviously we took out uh five million. [2:46:31, 2:46:37]: From fund balance for the amphitheater project. So if you look at it in total of where things are, including the amphitheater. [2:46:38, 2:46:42]: There's not been a you know absent that project. There's not been [2:46:42, 2:46:49]: any substantial decrease or any decrease really to what we would normally place in our fund balance on a regular basis. [2:46:49, 2:46:51]: Absent again the project itself. [2:46:52, 2:46:56]: Yeah, because I mean think about Yeah, mine saw that it would be about two point two. [2:46:57, 2:47:13]: two point two. So in the end, what I'm trying to say is we've we've spent this money on the amphitheater. The project is basically done, card uh Mr. Trevadan just told us that outside of a few exceptions, and we're still gonna be looking at co uh approximately [2:47:14, 2:47:16]: Seventeen million dollars in fund balance. [2:47:17, 2:47:18]: That is amazing. [2:47:19, 2:47:31]: And we don't want anybody saying that the council has been financially irresponsible when at the end of the day we built a twenty million dollar amphitheater and we're still gonna have. [2:47:31, 2:47:35]: Approximately seventeen, maybe a little bit less, maybe a little [2:47:35, 2:47:41]: million in the fund balance. That's unbelievable. That's great stewardship. That's what I want to point out. [2:47:43, 2:47:44]: Outstanding. [2:47:45, 2:47:48]: Okay, any other questions for Mr. Knighton? [2:47:49, 2:47:52]: Or Mr. Wiggins or Carl. [2:47:53, 2:47:55]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:47:57, 2:47:57]: Um [2:47:58, 2:48:07]: Is there anything else to provide the council with as far as the management company, the operations of the amphitheater? [2:48:10, 2:48:18]: Or is that something we will discuss offline? I I I I think that's uh that's still in negotiation, I would have believed, but Mr. Knight could answer those questions. [2:48:18, 2:48:25]: I would like to have that conversation with you in a different format uh than here. Just uh so I don't wanna compromise anything that [2:48:26, 2:48:31]: uh could be um in play with um uh those types of operations. [2:48:32, 2:48:36]: I do owe to the council uh some uh understanding. [2:48:36, 2:48:40]: In summation of where we are with that and I will provide that to you. [2:48:40, 2:48:42]: uh in the next day or two. [2:48:44, 2:48:49]: Okay. Any further questions from Mr. Knighton, John Wiggins or Carl? [2:48:50, 2:48:55]: If not, thank you, gentlemen. I'm gonna go into my comments. And my first comment is [2:48:55, 2:49:13]: I I would hope that you're all rooting for our hometown Hawks to beat the Bucks tonight in game four. The game has already started, but unfortunately we're here. So hopefully you taped it and you get a chance to uh listen to the first half'cause we'll probably be around for at least to do what this meeting for at least in the first half here anyway. [2:49:13, 2:49:17]: So wish the Hawks well. We need to get we need to get an NBA championship here, right? [2:49:17, 2:49:18]: Absolutely. [2:49:19, 2:49:37]: And happy Fourth of July to everybody. It's right around the corner. And hopefully you'll have a good time to enjoy with your family and friends and be safe and careful in the whole process. And gentlemen, I'm sorry. I I forgot our last meeting to wish you a happy belated Father's Day now. And hopefully your family and loved ones and uh treated you well during your special day a couple of weeks ago. [2:49:38, 2:49:49]: On that note, in reference to the public health department and a public health issue, we're still in a pandemic, folks, but it's getting better. And I would hope that after the this Fourth of July holiday, the numbers continue to go down. [2:49:49, 2:50:09]: in this aspect and we have not had any deaths in Henry County from COVID 19 in two weeks. Uh so it's it's a good thing. It's a great thing, matter of fact. I also want you to know that it's no longer uh the testing for COVID nineteen is no longer going on at Heritage Senior Center. If you want to be tested for COVID nineteen you have to go to the Red Hawk [2:50:09, 2:50:10]: [10210.0, 10230.0]: Field, which is a 143 Henry Parkway. The Red Hawk Field is right next to the public health department in Madonna or across the street from the Henry County Commissioner's uh government building, commissioner government building there. And to do that, to make an appointment, you would have to uh call the actual um uh public health department. [2:50:30, 2:50:46]: and uh set of appointment. And that would be 800-847-4262. Once again, 800-847-4262. And the testing for that would be on Tuesdays and Thursdays only at Red Hawk Field, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. [2:50:47, 2:50:55]: Tuesdays and Thursdays only, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. at Red Hawk Field. And on all actuality, you can actually call the public health department. [2:50:55, 2:50:57]: of Georgia [2:50:57, 2:50:59]: And actually uh schedule a uh [2:51:00, 2:51:02]: Vaccination through them as well. [2:51:02, 2:51:07]: And that would be eight hundred, uh excuse me a second. One second. [2:51:10, 2:51:30]: That is 800 uh 888-457-0186. Once again, for a Georgia Public Health Department to schedule an appointment for an actual vaccination is 888-457-0186. And those lines are open from Monday to Friday. [2:51:30, 2:51:41]: a.m. to 8 p.m. or Saturday and Sunday, 8 a.m. to 5 PM. And they would tell you where where the local nearest local per uh place would be to get a a vaccination shot. [2:51:41, 2:52:01]: And of course, they're going to ask you several different things, demographic demographics, uh details on race, ethnicity, and gender and age, medical history, whether or not uh you have uh had a current or past ailments and allergies, and whether or not you had any past infections, testing, and further other vaccinations, and then of course contact information. [2:52:01, 2:52:21]: information this aspect. So we still need to defeat this particular virus. And the District 4 Public Health Department can also help you or individuals with any nonprofit organizations or churches to get into hard to reach communities or underserved type of communities. And they'll [2:52:21, 2:52:41]: Coordinate that with the core, and that's a non-profit. Uh Sean Penn is working with, and that can be coordinated through the district uh for health department andor our Henry County Health Department, and uh, and that'll probably include the uh the uh the actual um emergency management folks at the county to help assist with that as well. Uh on that note. [2:52:41, 2:52:53]: Let me read some uh excuse me some other announcements here. We're scheduled to have a virtual town hall meeting on the Quiet Zone and Railroad Crossing. This is Thursday, July 1st, 6 p.m. by way of Zoom. [2:52:53, 2:53:02]: Uh the Main Street Advisory Board meeting is the second Friday of each month, 8 a.m. Excuse me, 9 a.m. And that's by way of Zoom. That next meeting would be July 9th. [2:53:02, 2:53:22]: The next city council meeting is 6 p.m. Zoom, second Monday of each month, and that'll be on the 12th of July. The downtown development authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, and that next one is July 20th. Youth Council and Advisory meeting is 6:30 by way of Zoom. Third Tuesday of each month, which is July 20th. [2:53:22, 2:53:42]: And the planning commission at it will have a next Zoom, the next meeting by way of Zoom is 6 30 on a fur a fourth Thursday of each month, and that's July 22nd. And our next uh city council work session is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom last Tuesday of each month, and that'll be on the 27th of July. Council initiatives here. [2:53:42, 2:53:53]: or city events. Food truck tasty Tuesday returns to Clark Park, which is one fifth one one Davis Road and the dates with Food Truck Tasty Tuesday, July 20th. [2:53:54, 2:54:14]: July 27th, August 3rd, and August 10th, 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. Once again, food truck tasty Tuesdays at Clark Park with July 20th, July 27th, August 3rd, and August 10th, 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. And please join me and the Divine Nine of the South Metro area for a [2:54:13, 2:54:33]: uh food truck rally and uh collecting of of school supplies uh for our Henry County students. And that'll be on Friday, July 9th, is 5 p.m. to 9 p.m. And then also join Councilwoman Gantt for her let's get back to normal food truck council initiative, which is Tuesday, July 13th. [2:54:33, 2:54:37]: And that's 5 30 to 8 p.m. at Clark Park. [2:54:37, 2:54:51]: And so in the the next six weeks or so we got a lot of food truck activity. So that's fantastic. Bring the public back out. And on that note, uh ladies and gentlemen, uh that's all my announcements. Council, I need a motion to Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [2:54:51, 2:55:01]: Thank you. May I I just want to take this opportunity to uh thank all of the citizens that came out to assist in the uh first responders uh drive-through luncheon. [2:55:02, 2:55:06]: I want to thank Mr. Knighton for coming out, uh, Mayor Pro Tem Alexander for coming out. [2:55:07, 2:55:09]: Uh we fed roughly uh [2:55:10, 2:55:12]: Two hundred first responders. [2:55:12, 2:55:13]: Um [2:55:13, 2:55:33]: There is a second phase of this. It's a virtual celebration as well. But I just want to thank those that came out to assist. We had about 15 to 20 uh volunteers to come out with that. It was a pretty good day. And I just want to thank all those that participated. [2:55:33, 2:55:42]: And then definitely want to thank all of our first responders for the service that they do. And just wanted to thank everybody. [2:55:43, 2:55:49]: Thank you, Mayor. Problem. Appreciate it. You're welcome, sir. On that note, Council, I need a motion to go into executive session, please. [2:55:50, 2:55:51]: Mm-hmm. [2:55:51, 2:55:55]: Okay, I need for I need for litigation. [2:55:56, 2:56:02]: Personnel, real estate. Okay. Okay, councilman. Oh, thank you. Councilman Barber, is there a second? [2:56:03, 2:56:06]: Second. All right. Uh all in favor, please indicate. [2:56:07, 2:56:19]: All right, we're gonna go into second session. Okay, thank you very much. It's unanimous. Uh Ms. Holiday, please send us uh new different types of connectivity so we can get this echo session. I'll see you all in the probably within the next 10 minutes. [2:56:19, 2:56:22]: And to include our attorneys as well, Ms. Holley. Thank you very much. [2:56:26, 2:56:27]: On [2:56:28, 2:56:34]: There we go. There we go. Okay. All right. [2:56:35, 2:56:36]: Alrighty. [2:56:38, 2:56:40]: Oh, I forgot. [2:56:41, 2:56:42]: Let's see. [2:56:48, 2:56:49]: Jeremy Berry. [2:57:01, 2:57:04]: Shake Vanessa's back. Oh, she's still at the office. [2:57:06, 2:57:08]: Okay, whip okay, okay. [2:57:14, 2:57:15]: All right. [2:57:19, 2:57:22]: We don't have a quorum yet. We need one more person for a quorum and then we'll close out. [2:58:03, 2:58:04]: I'm here. [2:58:14, 2:58:20]: All right, we actually have a quorum now. So um N S I special I need a okay, one second, stand by. [2:58:42, 2:58:46]: All right, so what do we have here? We got uh okay, we got a quorum. [2:58:46, 2:58:48]: So I need a motion to end the second session, please. [2:58:49, 2:58:49]: So move. [2:58:50, 2:58:51]: Okay, is there a second? [2:58:52, 2:58:52]: A second. [2:58:52, 2:58:55]: Dan seconds is all in favor, please indicate. [2:58:56, 2:59:02]: Okay. Okay, thank you very much. I need a motion to reconvene our regular uh work session, please. So move. So moved. [2:59:03, 2:59:05]: Okay, uh Mayor Pro Tem, second. [2:59:06, 2:59:07]: Any second. [2:59:07, 2:59:09]: Uh Barber seconds that okay. [2:59:10, 2:59:11]: All in favor, please indicate. [2:59:12, 2:59:17]: All right. Okay, good deal. Now any motion to end our uh council work session, please. [2:59:18, 2:59:18]: Tell me. [2:59:18, 2:59:21]: Okay, Ms. Cat, second. Who's the second? [2:59:21, 2:59:22]: Any second? [2:59:22, 2:59:23]: There could [2:59:23, 2:59:28]: Miss Barber raised her hand first. Okay, great. No problem. All in favor, please indicate. [2:59:28, 2:59:33]: All right. All right. Good night, everybody. Have a good evening. Good night. Good night.
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[0:10:18, 0:10:22]: Ms. Knight, have you uh were you able to make contact with him and let him know? [0:10:22, 0:10:23]: Remind them. [0:10:25, 0:10:25]: Yeah. [0:10:26, 0:10:29]: Yes, and I'm attempting to contact now as well. [0:10:29, 0:10:30]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. [0:10:50, 0:10:58]: All right, folks, we'll get started as soon as our one of our attorneys shows up. We need to make sure we have our legal advisors online as well. [0:11:15, 0:11:17]: Mayor Ford, the attorney is attempting to join now. [0:11:17, 0:11:19]: I see it. Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate it. [0:11:26, 0:11:27]: There we go. [0:11:28, 0:11:34]: Mr. Washington, how you doing, sir? I'm doing well. I apologize. The other link that I had wasn't wasn't the correct link. [0:11:34, 0:11:35]: Okay. [0:11:36, 0:11:40]: Well you're here now. On that note, we're gonna start a meeting. I have roughly uh six oh one. [0:11:40, 0:11:45]: And so I'd like to call our fo June fourteenth council city council meeting to order. [0:11:45, 0:11:47]: And Madam Clerk, could you give me a roll call, please? [0:11:55, 0:11:57]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:11:57, 0:11:58]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:11:59, 0:12:00]: Present. Councilwoman Barber. [0:12:01, 0:12:02]: That's it. [0:12:02, 0:12:03]: Councilman Blount. [0:12:06, 0:12:10]: Let the record reflect Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:12:13, 0:12:17]: Let the record reflect, Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Thomas. [0:12:17, 0:12:18]: What is it? [0:12:19, 0:12:20]: Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? [0:12:20, 0:12:40]: Thank you, Madam Clerk, and uh Councilman Blount uh called me and has a a medical emergency, a personal medical emergency for a family matter. And so he informed me that he probably will not be present uh this evening. Uh so on that note, um I want to at least mention that and I'll give the invocation this evening. Okay. Thank you, Lord, for bringing it to the next slide. [0:12:40, 0:12:58]: bring us together once again as we continue to discuss our issues and concerns and the betterment of our city and for our citizens, allow us to have good logical dialogue and to help move the city forward and do the due diligence that is necessary to serve our citizens properly. [0:12:59, 0:13:01]: equitably and in in order. [0:13:01, 0:13:15]: allow us to do the best we can as we continue to fight this uh virus as we continue to get better and people continue to get vaccinated and we continue to get stronger as our our society gets better and and hoping soon [0:13:15, 0:13:18]: It will continue to have a new normal. [0:13:18, 0:13:21]: Continue to guide us, Lord, and be with us always at this time. [0:13:21, 0:13:22]: Your name. Amen. [0:13:23, 0:13:26]: Amen. All right. Please stand for the pleasure, please. [0:13:29, 0:13:34]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. [0:13:34, 0:13:36]: And to the remote. [0:13:36, 0:13:40]: Well would you stand one nation under God [0:13:40, 0:13:42]: In different. [0:13:42, 0:13:45]: With liberty and justice for all. [0:13:47, 0:13:48]: Thank you. [0:13:50, 0:13:52]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:13:55, 0:13:57]: Ms. Can I ask a question, please? [0:13:57, 0:13:58]: What's that, please? [0:13:59, 0:14:08]: Uh Mr. Washington, uh we had previously discussed uh changing the distance limits on the small box retailers. [0:14:08, 0:14:24]: Yeah, we just simply uh want to change the limit. We want to keep the original formula. Uh Henry County has a formula of five miles distance. I simply want to change the distance. Is it is it okay if we add that to the agenda and then [0:14:24, 0:14:29]: Uh just change the distance or do we need to have uh is there some other legal thing we just [0:14:30, 0:14:35]: So what you all have to do and correct me whether I'm I'm wrong on this man for is that [0:14:35, 0:14:42]: If you want to present an ordinance to change an an ordinance to change or a a law or a rule. [0:14:42, 0:14:48]: You have to write it down and submit it and then it'd be it's something that we can vote on. But if you all want to [0:14:49, 0:14:54]: And I need to check to see what your procedures are for that. If you all want to suspend all of your rules to do that. [0:14:55, 0:14:58]: Then I'd have I'd just have to check and see what the vote count would be for that. [0:14:58, 0:15:02]: to be able to suspend the rules and add an ordinance like that to the agenda. [0:15:03, 0:15:05]: You'd be waving your rules. You you'd have to [0:15:06, 0:15:07]: Way yards rules of procedure. [0:15:07, 0:15:22]: Well I would I would say hold on a second, I would think that if you want if you wanted to add it to the agenda, we'd take a vote to add it to the agenda and discuss this issue. But obviously the the attorneys doesn't have I don't think we have any documentation ready for any type of um approval aspect thus far. [0:15:22, 0:15:26]: But uh in that aspect. But if you want to end it, uh add it, I believe I imagine we can add it. [0:15:27, 0:15:28]: Oh, go ahead, Mayor Putin. [0:15:28, 0:15:34]: How how about we do this? We get the documentation ready and we add it at the very next meeting. [0:15:35, 0:15:39]: Uh we brought the subject up before. I'd just like to have it ready at the next meeting if that would be great. [0:15:40, 0:15:45]: No, and that's and that's fine. Here's what we were going to also discuss and [0:15:45, 0:15:47]: We've been thinking about this one, Mr. Knight. [0:15:48, 0:15:58]: It would be beneficial to us if we could have an email that goes around or either we'll just get a sheet together of what the council consensus is so that that way we know what. [0:15:59, 0:16:07]: If three of you all want something brought to you all, what we need to bring. Because what's happening is we're getting direct we're getting directives and requests. [0:16:07, 0:16:14]: And so the question of how to prioritize those could be greatly honed in on if you all would just send us. [0:16:15, 0:16:32]: an email that says council consensus request or either we have a sheet that goes around where you are what three people sign off on it so that way we'll know what to send you off and we can do that in a timely manner. We can do that weekly it's council consensus requests so that that way we can go forward and have these items. [0:16:32, 0:16:36]: Okay, no problem, sir. Uh so moved to approve the agenda. [0:16:37, 0:16:38]: Is there a second? [0:16:40, 0:16:41]: Is there a second? [0:16:42, 0:16:47]: I hold it. Thanks. Thank you. Councilman Barber seconded. All in favor, please indicate. [0:16:48, 0:17:08]: All right, fantastic. Thank you very much. All right. Uh adoption of the minute. Excuse me, adoption of the minutes. So we have several different minutes that we need to approve. Approval of the retreat minutes from the 17th of March. Approval of the minutes from uh the retreat minutes from 18 March and also 19 March. Those uh approval of those. [0:17:08, 0:17:09]: Those retreat minutes. [0:17:10, 0:17:19]: And then approval of the minutes of our council meeting on April 12th and approval approval of the minutes on our council work session, which was April 27th. [0:17:20, 0:17:22]: So move. Thank you. Zero second. [0:17:23, 0:17:26]: And Miss uh Ms. Barber second that all in favor please indicate. [0:17:27, 0:17:32]: Fantastic. It passes. Good. I have several proclamations to uh read at this time. [0:17:34, 0:17:41]: And the first one is going to be with the uh four proclamation dealing with Caribbean uh heritage uh celebration. [0:17:42, 0:17:53]: And it seems though there's several individuals here that are are going to in a sense receive this. And once I finish this, if you want to have any comments, you can have any comments in reference to uh uh this proclamation. [0:17:54, 0:17:59]: So this is actually excerpts uh from the twenty twenty one presidential proclamation. [0:17:59, 0:18:04]: and it's uh celebrating uh National Caribbean uh American Heritage Month. [0:18:05, 0:18:10]: Whereas America's diversity is and always has been a defining strength of our nation. [0:18:10, 0:18:20]: In every generation our society, spirit, and shared ambitions have been refreshed by the wave after wave of immigrants seeking out their American dream. [0:18:21, 0:18:33]: Whereas throughout our history, Caribbean uh Caribbean Americans have brought vibrant cultures, languages, traditions, and values that strengthen our country and add new chapters to our common story. [0:18:34, 0:18:43]: Whereas in recognition of Caribbean American countless gifts and contributions to our nation, we celebrate National Caribbean American Heritage Month. [0:18:43, 0:18:54]: And whereas Caribbean Americans have made our country more innovative and more prosperous, they have enriched our nation's arts and culture, our public institutions and our economy. [0:18:55, 0:19:01]: Whereas President Biden's administration has barrier-breaking public servants, including Vice President Kamala Harris. [0:19:02, 0:19:18]: Secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mecakis, Secretary of Education, Manuel Cordona, and Domestic Policy Advisor Susan Rice, all whom continue to be sources of pride and inspiration for Caribbean Americans across the country. [0:19:19, 0:19:32]: Whereas Caribbean Americans, intellects, and artists like James Weldon Johnson, the poet who gave us the anthem Left Every Voice, Lift Every Voice and Sing, celebrated Neo Esprecius painter John Mikhail Makwitsk. [0:19:32, 0:19:34]: And John B. Russ Wham. [0:19:34, 0:19:40]: the first Caribbean American editor of the US newspaper have left a lasting impact on our country. [0:19:40, 0:19:50]: Caribbean American jurists like Constance Baker Motley, the first black woman appointed to the federal bench, and the nation's first Latina Supreme Court Justice, Sonia Sotomayor. [0:19:51, 0:19:54]: Have made innumerable contributions to the American justice system. [0:19:55, 0:20:00]: Shirley Chisholm, the daughter of Caribbean immigrants, blazed new trails as our nation's first black congresswoman. [0:20:01, 0:20:04]: And the first black woman to launch a major party bid for the presidency. [0:20:05, 0:20:06]: Public servants like Antonia. [0:20:07, 0:20:10]: Noventole, our nation's first female surgeon general. [0:20:10, 0:20:25]: And Colin Powell, our first black secretary of state, have followed in their footsteps, starting new paths of their own in service to the American people. Now for now, therefore I, Anthony S. Forbes, virtual authority invested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:20:26, 0:20:29]: On behalf of council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber. [0:20:29, 0:20:31]: John Blount, Lakeisha Gadden, Afonso Thomas. [0:20:32, 0:20:34]: Who hereby proclaim tune. [0:20:34, 0:20:36]: Twenty twenty one is Caribbean American Heritage Month. [0:20:37, 0:20:43]: Where we celebrate the legacy and essential contributions of Caribbean Americans who have added so much to our American fabric. [0:20:43, 0:20:57]: And witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand on the fourteenth day of june twenty twenty one. They have caused the official seal of the Great City Stockbridge to be affixed here too, and I signed this proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holiday. Outstanding. [0:20:58, 0:21:08]: Okay. Congratulations. Now I I imagine there are several individuals. Uh uh I guess uh invites that you had here, Mayor Mayor Pro Tem, you want to introduce folks here? [0:21:08, 0:21:15]: Yes, uh Miss Samantha Samuels will accept um she's president of the Caribbean Association of Georgia and she will accept [0:21:16, 0:21:19]: uh on the behalf of that community and welcome. [0:21:19, 0:21:20]: Absolutely. [0:21:20, 0:21:24]: We'll just start reading the resonant. How about that? Fantastic. [0:21:24, 0:21:27]: But Samuels, you have any comments or questions, concerns, or thoughts here? [0:21:28, 0:21:40]: I just want to say thank you all so much. Sylvia, I see you. Thank you, uh Mayor Ford and Mayor Pro Temp, um Alexander and everyone else. We just wanna say thank you for recognizing. [0:21:41, 0:21:41]: Um [0:21:41, 0:21:48]: Caribbean American and the contributions that we bring to the community locally and at large. And we're just truly excited. [0:21:48, 0:21:51]: That you all we are all one. That's what we say. We're all one. [0:21:52, 0:21:56]: Um, so we just really appreciate it. Thank you so much on behalf of the executive team. [0:21:56, 0:21:57]: I say thank you. [0:21:58, 0:22:10]: You're more than welcome. Outstanding. Uh what it is, I I want to be able to set up a time frame where I we can get this frame. I can issue this to you in public. We'll just coordinate a time frame for that uh here shortly, within a we'll say within a week. [0:22:11, 0:22:26]: And uh look forward to doing that. I would imagine Mayor Pro Tem, Alexander won't be present for for that actual execution of that actual uh proclamation to you. Okay. Okay, thank you. Thank you for being here. And and you can stay as long as you like. Okay. Okay, thank you so much. You're more than welcome. [0:22:26, 0:22:29]: I have another proclamation here deals with uh [0:22:29, 0:22:33]: Alzheimer's uh awareness month. Okay, so I want to read this one as well. [0:22:34, 0:22:54]: Whereas Alzheimer's disease is a progressive brain disease that slowly deteriorates brain cells, affecting one's reasoning skills and abilities to perform simple tasks, ultimately leading to memory loss. Whereas Alzheimer's disease, which currently has no cure, is the sixth leading cause of death in adults aged 18 or older in the United States. [0:22:54, 0:22:58]: And whereas with no currently defined definite defendant. [0:22:58, 0:22:59]: Definite, excuse me. [0:23:00, 0:23:09]: Interventions to prevent Alzheimer's disease, essential public health services of elderly detection, excuse me, early detection, risk reduction, and surveillance are necessary to protect [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: protect and improve the health of our citizens. [0:23:13, 0:23:28]: And whereas during the month of June, citizens across Georgia take part in the longest day, which is the longest the long day, longestday.alz.org to raise awareness and support research and care for Alzheimer's patients. [0:23:28, 0:23:39]: And whereas further research in Alzheimer's disease is critical as it is the only cause of death among the top ten causes in the United States that currently cannot be prevented, cured, or even slowed. [0:23:40, 0:24:00]: Whereas nearly 50% of the individuals with increased memory problems reported they had not discussed their symptoms with the healthcare provider. Yet early and documented diagnosis, when coupled with access to care planning services, leads to a better outcomes for individuals with Alzheimer's disease as well as their caregivers. [0:24:00, 0:24:11]: And whereas caregivers and family members are crucial in the maintaining a healthy quality of life with those battling Alzheimer's disease. And now therefore I, Anthony S. Four, by virtue of authority vested in me, [0:24:11, 0:24:16]: As a mayor of the city of Stockbridge Georgian on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander and Alana Barber. [0:24:16, 0:24:29]: John Blount, Lakeisha Gann, Afonso Thomas do hereby recognize June 2021 as Alzheimer's and Brain Awareness Month in the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And we call this observance to the attention of all our citizens. [0:24:29, 0:24:38]: In witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the fourteenth day of the year of our Lord 2021. [0:24:39, 0:24:42]: And I sign this along with our clerk Vanessa Holiday. Thank you. [0:24:43, 0:24:54]: Okay, and I would imagine is it Miss Sylvia uh Dennis is here to I imagine receive the this proclamation as well. If that's the case, ma'am, I'm glad you're with us. Do you have any comments or words, please? [0:24:55, 0:25:03]: Yes, I would just like to thank you, Mayor and Council, for recognizing June as Alzheimer's and Brain Awareness Month. [0:25:04, 0:25:05]: Um [0:25:05, 0:25:14]: And during my journey here, um, working with the Alzheimer's Association and working with the new center that I now run. [0:25:14, 0:25:15]: Um in Clayton County. [0:25:16, 0:25:18]: And working with these patients. [0:25:18, 0:25:19]: Um [0:25:20, 0:25:28]: The COVID pandemic has really, really affected a lot of them this between last year and this year. [0:25:28, 0:25:33]: So if you all could just keep keep all of us lifted up in prayer. [0:25:34, 0:25:38]: Um and I just appreciate you all for um [0:25:38, 0:25:40]: Giving us the proclamation. [0:25:40, 0:25:52]: And I just want to remind everyone, the walk will be in person this year. Yay. We're so excited. Um, we're in the process of planning the walk. It will be September the 18th. [0:25:53, 0:25:55]: Um back at Alexander Park. [0:25:55, 0:26:00]: Um, and we would love to have you all present um during that walk. [0:26:00, 0:26:03]: We'll be there. Absolutely. And the same. [0:26:03, 0:26:06]: I'm sorry, Mayor Protein, you have something there, sir? [0:26:07, 0:26:26]: Uh I thank you so much. I thank them for accepting. And I understand the news has just got a little bit better on the ALZ with uh one the first drug being introduced. Uh maybe I don't I don't I don't know if Miss Ray could talk about that a little bit. Maybe the proclamation gotta be updated, which is good to use. [0:26:26, 0:26:31]: Yes, um the F VA just did an emergency approval. [0:26:32, 0:26:34]: For um a drug. [0:26:34, 0:26:41]: Um Emery did the research on they just um I think it was last week, they the FDA approved it. [0:26:41, 0:26:44]: And it's still not a cure. It's not a cure. [0:26:44, 0:26:47]: But it is to slow down the progress. [0:26:47, 0:26:53]: Um the progress for those who have been um detected who who have been [0:26:53, 0:26:55]: Early detected. You have to be early to detect. [0:26:56, 0:26:56]: So [0:26:57, 0:27:01]: Um, we thank God for that that outbreak. So yes, you're correct. [0:27:02, 0:27:03]: Fantastic. [0:27:03, 0:27:04]: And um uh [0:27:05, 0:27:19]: Sylvia, just like with Ms. Samuels, I gotta uh call you, work with, try to figure out your uh your schedule and meet you somewhere and be able to issue this proclamation in person, framed and to you. So hopefully within next week we'll be able to coordinate sometime. So we'll be able to do that, okay? [0:27:19, 0:27:25]: Okay, thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. And you you're m once again, you're welcome to stay as long as you like. [0:27:25, 0:27:26]: Thank you. [0:27:26, 0:27:41]: Okay, the third proclamation for tonight uh deals with uh Juneteenth celebration, celebrate freedom. And this is the first time that in the census city is going to uh outwardly celebrate uh Juneteenth and and actually our our uh employees have a um [0:27:41, 0:27:50]: Have a uh actually a holiday holiday for this as well. But let me read this. And we have, of course, an activity scheduled later on this week. But let's let me read this proclamation here. [0:27:51, 0:28:01]: Whereas President Abraham Lincoln signed the emancipation emancipation proclamation on january one, eighteen sixty three, declaring the slaves of the Confederate territory free. [0:28:01, 0:28:06]: paving a way for the passing of the thirteenth amendment, which formally abolished slavery in the United States of America. [0:28:07, 0:28:26]: And whereas word about the signing of the Emancipation Proclamation was delayed some two and a half years to June 19, 1865, in reaching authorities and African Americans in the South and Southwestern United States. And whereas the last enslaved African Americans in Texas, [0:28:27, 0:28:47]: were pronounced free people and that momentous date, June 19, 1865, has been proclaimed as Juneteenth. Whereas June 19th has a special meeting to African Americans and is called Juneteenth, combining the words of June and 19th, and has been celebrated by African American community over 150 years. [0:28:47, 0:29:04]: And whereas on June 19th, each year we celebrate and honor the African American heritage, free a history, freedom, culture, with events and ceremonies to reflect the power of the community, family, art, and traditions. Now therefore, I Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:29:04, 0:29:11]: On on behalf of council members Elton Alexander, Lana Barber, John Blount, Akisha Gannon and Founcil Thomas do hereby proclaim. [0:29:11, 0:29:17]: June nineteenth, twenty twenty one is Juneteenth in the great city of Stockbridge, and urge all citizens to become more aware. [0:29:18, 0:29:38]: Of the significance of this celebration in African American history and in the heritage of our nation. In witness thereof I have hereundo set my hand and cause of the seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, to be affixed on this fourteenth day of June in the year of our Lord 2021, and I signed the proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. [0:29:38, 0:29:38]: Standing. [0:29:39, 0:29:47]: And on that note, I've I'll tell you what I like to do. I like to turn this over. Yeah, I see he's already he's already unmuted. Councilman Thomas, sir, uh, you have some words of wisdom for us. [0:29:49, 0:29:50]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:29:51, 0:29:54]: Of course, uh, Juneteen is [0:29:55, 0:29:58]: Um an historial celebration. [0:29:59, 0:30:01]: Uh, this is the first year that [0:30:01, 0:30:03]: The city of Stockbridge [0:30:03, 0:30:06]: Will, to my knowledge, celebrate. [0:30:07, 0:30:09]: uh this [0:30:09, 0:30:11]: Um event. [0:30:12, 0:30:16]: My goal and my intentions uh to bring this forward. [0:30:17, 0:30:20]: was for the city of Stark Bridge to [0:30:22, 0:30:24]: Bien those trenches to educate. [0:30:26, 0:30:29]: And to unify all of our citizens. [0:30:30, 0:30:33]: Uh here in the city of Starkbridge, all races [0:30:33, 0:30:36]: Cause I think the more that [0:30:36, 0:30:39]: We all learn about different cultures. [0:30:40, 0:30:43]: А і бризя інті. [0:30:44, 0:30:47]: So that was my goal and bringing this forward. [0:30:48, 0:30:53]: And it was my desire that the city of Stockbridge would be. [0:30:53, 0:30:57]: Um in that as far as educating [0:30:58, 0:31:01]: Uh all citizens and I was hoping that [0:31:01, 0:31:03]: All of our activities [0:31:04, 0:31:05]: Centered around Juneteenth. [0:31:06, 0:31:07]: Would reflect [0:31:08, 0:31:11]: And would have that kind of impact. [0:31:12, 0:31:15]: Uh uh in that uh [0:31:15, 0:31:17]: understanding and and unity. [0:31:18, 0:31:21]: But I do want to thank my colleagues for [0:31:22, 0:31:24]: Um confirming this. [0:31:25, 0:31:28]: Um as a celebration here in the city of Stockbridge. [0:31:28, 0:31:31]: And I hope that we are successful in. [0:31:31, 0:31:33]: In our uh intent. [0:31:33, 0:31:35]: А то еду. [0:31:36, 0:31:37]: To unify [0:31:38, 0:31:39]: And to celebrate. [0:31:40, 0:31:41]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:31:41, 0:31:52]: Thank you, uh Councilman Thomas. And and I know the city has a lot of things planned and things are on our website to help educate and and and celebrate and to make sure people understand the meaning behind Juneteenth. [0:31:52, 0:31:57]: And uh and uh how far we've come and how far we still need to go in our country to [0:31:57, 0:32:00]: show diversity and show u unity among all people. [0:32:00, 0:32:01]: This aspect. [0:32:01, 0:32:07]: Uh any other comments for any other council members before I move on to our public comments? Anyone else? [0:32:07, 0:32:16]: Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead. I wanted to note that um Councilman Blount had joined the meeting during the previous proclamation. Outstanding. Good to see you there, Mr. Blount. [0:32:16, 0:32:19]: Okay, Mayor Pro Tem, you're unmuted. You have something you want to say, sir? [0:32:20, 0:32:25]: I just wanted to say, you know, I wanted to thank Councilman Thomas for leading the way uh on spearheading. [0:32:26, 0:32:32]: uh this on the Juneteenth because recognizing it is a holiday here uh in the city. [0:32:32, 0:32:39]: It needed to be put on par with all the other holidays and I'm glad that we were able to do that. [0:32:39, 0:32:42]: And uh he led the way doing that. So kudos uh for his leadership. [0:32:43, 0:32:52]: Outstanding. Yeah. Mr. Thomas, go ahead. You have something else or you just go ahead. Well, I I I just wanted to say that I would since there is no recipient. [0:32:52, 0:33:05]: For this, I would like to receive that uh if I may, if there's no objection from our councilmates. No problem. We'll put in a frame for you too, sir, and and issue it to you as well. Outstanding. You're welcome. [0:33:06, 0:33:15]: Okay. Uh on that note, uh Ms. Holliday, a public comments. Do we have any public comments at all? We do have one public comment tonight, Mayor. Okay. Sure. Go ahead, please. [0:33:15, 0:33:16]: Hey. [0:33:16, 0:33:24]: To the mayor and council members, good evening. My name is Charles Marshall, president of the Henry County Coalition Committee. [0:33:24, 0:33:30]: I live at 140 Somerset Hills, McDonough, Georgia, which is in the Eagles Landing area of Henry County. [0:33:30, 0:33:34]: My comments this evening have to do with the T Splos referendum. [0:33:34, 0:33:36]: And his upcoming vote. [0:33:36, 0:33:39]: I am strongly in favor of this referendum. [0:33:40, 0:33:43]: And am working hard through the Henry County Coalition Committee. [0:33:44, 0:33:47]: To get the word out about the positive impact this referendum [0:33:48, 0:33:53]: will have on the infrastructure of the city of Stockbridge and surrounding areas. [0:33:53, 0:33:58]: The continued enhancements of our highways, roads, and trails. [0:33:58, 0:34:02]: Are all vital to the robust growth of our community. [0:34:03, 0:34:08]: Your unrelenting commitment to these projects brings hopes to the vision of the [0:34:08, 0:34:14]: Of making the city of Stockbridge and surrounding areas a great place to live, work and play. [0:34:15, 0:34:20]: Many of the projects that the city has proposed as part of the draft under T S PLOSS [0:34:21, 0:34:26]: include some beautification enhancements such as sidewalks and other improvements. [0:34:26, 0:34:37]: Sidewalks bordered with the red brick pavers, along with decorative street lamps, could also enhance the beautification of our roadways and trails. [0:34:37, 0:34:41]: And would also add a certain amount of safety. [0:34:41, 0:34:45]: Making pedestrians more visible to oncoming traffic. [0:34:45, 0:34:51]: The$1 million fund that you have proposed for traffic and safety improvements along [0:34:51, 0:34:54]: Country Club Drive hopefully will include [0:34:55, 0:34:59]: These enhancements as this corridor is widely used by many [0:35:00, 0:35:03]: Within as well as outside of our community. [0:35:04, 0:35:08]: The reasphing and striping of country club drive. [0:35:08, 0:35:10]: has been greatly appreciated. [0:35:10, 0:35:15]: And really speaks volumes to your commitment of keeping our city safe. [0:35:15, 0:35:16]: And looking great. [0:35:17, 0:35:28]: Please keep these efforts going throughout the city and continue to make safety and beautification enhancements a prominent place within your T Splos projects moving forward. [0:35:29, 0:35:42]: Keeping the city of Stockbridge clean and beautiful incorporates directly into the city's continued beautification efforts. And we commend you all for your commitment. Thank you for your time. Charles Marshall, President. [0:35:42, 0:35:56]: There are no further comments, Mayor. Thank you. And and we'll be talking uh some T splot. We'll have a T sploss presentation from Mr. Knight a little later on in our meeting. So we'll be able to cover all those things here. Okay. So on that note, we'll talk about new business and [0:35:56, 0:36:07]: Council consideration to approve the Main Street Program 2021-2022 Classic Main Street MOU presented by Miss Braggs, please. [0:36:08, 0:36:25]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council members. On behalf of the Stockbridge Main Street Advisory Board and the Main Street program staff, I come before you requesting the renewal of our memorandum of understanding with the Georgia Department of Community Affairs. [0:36:26, 0:36:33]: Um, this past year, despite COVID nineteen implications, the Main Street Advisory Board has continued its work. [0:36:33, 0:36:38]: Um, from establishing new partnerships with the first readers of Henry County. [0:36:39, 0:36:50]: and the Henry County Arts Consortium to strengthening our current partnerships with the Cochrane Library, Stockbridge Elementary School, and the SBDC along with Operation Hope. [0:36:50, 0:37:03]: Through the pandemic, we've kept small business owners informed about funding opportunities. And when they were ready to slowly reopen, we helped them and informed the public through our Stockbridge Open campaign. [0:37:04, 0:37:11]: These are just a few of our programs and accomplishments that we have been able to maintain during these challenging times. [0:37:11, 0:37:27]: All of which culminated with our recent Main Street DDA joint planning session and Main Street staff's certification as Georgia Downtown Professionals. We thank the Stockbridge City Council for their support of our work. [0:37:27, 0:37:33]: And we look forward to even bigger, better and bigger and better things in the coming year. [0:37:34, 0:37:45]: Fantastic. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Any comments, uh Council, uh approval of this uh MOU that's been reestablished. Um Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:37:46, 0:37:47]: Thank you. [0:37:47, 0:37:52]: Uh as an advisory board member to the Main Street, I just wanted to [0:37:52, 0:37:56]: Confirm that the uh Main Street [0:37:56, 0:37:59]: program has met all [0:37:59, 0:38:01]: Uh five articles. [0:38:02, 0:38:04]: According uh to [0:38:04, 0:38:10]: uh community affairs and after all comments i'd like to move that uh we accept [0:38:11, 0:38:18]: Uh, this presentation from uh Mrs. Braggs, the manager of the Stockbridge Main Street program. [0:38:19, 0:38:20]: Okay, is there a second? [0:38:21, 0:38:26]: Is there a second? Second. I got councilman, I saw Councilman Blount's hand raised for a second there. [0:38:26, 0:38:28]: Any further discussion? [0:38:29, 0:38:30]: All favor, please indicate. [0:38:31, 0:38:36]: Casey Nanus. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Council. Thank you, Ms. Bright. Okay. [0:38:37, 0:38:55]: Council consideration to approve request for proposal, RFP number two zero one five zero eight-zero two, sanitation collection services contract renewal with waste industries Atlanta LLC GFL presented by Miss Lindell Miller and Desi Aaron, please. [0:38:57, 0:39:00]: You're you're muted, uh Miss Merrill Miller. [0:39:02, 0:39:02]: There you go. [0:39:03, 0:39:06]: Sorry about that. Good evening, Mayor and Council. I do pray that everyone's well. [0:39:07, 0:39:11]: The uh public works department is requesting council approval to renew the term contract. [0:39:12, 0:39:17]: For sanitation collection services, which is for the collection and transportation. [0:39:17, 0:39:30]: Of all residential solid waste within the its boundaries, from the point of pickup to the customer owned transfer station located in the city limits of Stockbridge. We have with us this evening uh Mr. Dwayne Isaac. [0:39:30, 0:39:34]: Who's also present along with um the public works director, if there are any questions. [0:39:35, 0:39:38]: Okay. Thank you for that. Mr. Aaron, do you have anything you need to add right now, sir? [0:39:40, 0:40:00]: Uh, I'm just saying now it's some challenging times in the uh sanitation industry. I know living here in Macon has been hit and miss for us for the last three months. I haven't had my garbage collected on the day of collection. And I'm proud to say that we haven't had that issue in Stockbridge. I received two services last week. [0:40:00, 0:40:05]: week my collection day is Friday. They collect me me on Monday and this past Friday. So [0:40:05, 0:40:08]: The industry is experiencing a great deal. [0:40:09, 0:40:10]: of issues with [0:40:10, 0:40:17]: finding correct staffing to provide these services. And I'm just glad that we're not experiencing that in Stockbridge. [0:40:17, 0:40:21]: Okay, thank you. Good deal. Appreciate it. Mr. Dwayne Isaac, sir. [0:40:21, 0:40:24]: But GFL, anything you need to say at this time? [0:40:26, 0:40:46]: No, sir. Mayor Ford, thank you guys for allowing me to be on the call and being in consideration to um partner with you guys for the next five years. Hope that decision comes. I know it's not a um easy decision, but I think over the last five years we've we've done a pretty good job. Um every day we improve and we look to improve. [0:40:46, 0:40:51]: and um just hope that I get five more years to continue to prove that we can do the job. [0:40:51, 0:40:52]: All right. [0:40:52, 0:40:58]: On that note, council, any any questions, concerns for any one of Ms. Miller, Ms. Aaron, or of course Mr. Isaac at all. [0:40:59, 0:41:00]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:41:02, 0:41:06]: Thank you, Mayor. I I just wanted to take this opportunity to [0:41:06, 0:41:09]: Uh come in, Mr. Isaac. Um [0:41:10, 0:41:20]: I could give him a call uh from time to time with some concerns that I hear from citizens. And he has always been willing. [0:41:20, 0:41:40]: um you know to to to meet those um residents to uh satisfy them with their service but i just want to take this opportunity uh mr ize just to thank you uh for being able to to respond to uh citizens uh when they do have um issues of [0:41:40, 0:41:45]: I just wanted to to speak to someone. So I just want to thank you for your service. [0:41:46, 0:41:48]: Okay. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:41:51, 0:41:56]: Thank you. I actually have two questions. One of them is for [0:41:56, 0:42:02]: Uh Mr. Wiggins, um, the finance piece. With this renewal, does it include an increase? [0:42:03, 0:42:04]: In our annual [0:42:05, 0:42:06]: What's it about? [0:42:09, 0:42:12]: Uh increase? No, it's is um [0:42:13, 0:42:15]: The budget was was set uh [0:42:16, 0:42:17]: Budget time and I [0:42:18, 0:42:21]: If uh if if district can add something add add to it. [0:42:22, 0:42:23]: I I um [0:42:23, 0:42:25]: I'm not sure if he added in. [0:42:26, 0:42:27]: I got increase. [0:42:27, 0:42:29]: Thank you just uh I I don't know. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: I'm not sure about an increase. [0:42:32, 0:42:38]: I I can I can chime in on that if you would like. Yeah, go write it, sir. The contract calls for a [0:42:39, 0:42:59]: A GOP increase yearly. Last year, I did not apply an increase because of the issues that we were having with COVID. Um, the reps not coming to work and not being able to be there because of COVID and their family issues. So I didn't pass along a PI for you to you guys last year. But the contract calls for a PI. [0:42:59, 0:43:00]: Yeah. [0:43:01, 0:43:01]: And [0:43:02, 0:43:16]: I reach out to Mr. Aaron yearly to make sure that we're good with moving forward with the PI. And if there's an issue, I do not apply it, even though the contract requires it. When it comes down to the city of Stockbridge, there's a partnership between [0:43:17, 0:43:30]: And you guys and what's best for the residents and the citizens of Scott Bridge, that's what we move forward with. So though the contract says that it requires a PI every year, if the city and the council have an issue with that PI, I don't pass it along. [0:43:32, 0:43:33]: Okay. [0:43:33, 0:43:33]: Oh [0:43:34, 0:43:42]: My question is still not answered. Um, I need to know what is exactly the increase amount. I know last year. [0:43:43, 0:43:44]: Or was it earlier this year? [0:43:45, 0:43:46]: We didn't pay. [0:43:47, 0:43:48]: For additional cost. [0:43:49, 0:43:52]: to waste industries or was it someone else? [0:43:52, 0:43:56]: I know that there were a lot of additional sanitation. [0:43:56, 0:43:59]: Um that waste industries. [0:43:59, 0:44:00]: had to incorporate. [0:44:01, 0:44:02]: into our contract. [0:44:02, 0:44:03]: Mm. [0:44:03, 0:44:05]: was last year doing COVID. [0:44:05, 0:44:11]: Well, last year we didn't apply. We I spoke with Mr. Aaron about the recycle increase. [0:44:12, 0:44:21]: And after me and Mr. Aaron discussed, I pulled that PI back because the PI rates for disposal increased to 60 bucks a ton. [0:44:21, 0:44:33]: So I initially sat down with those guys and talked to them about it. And he said that the the budget couldn't afford it. So I pulled that PI back and I ate that cost. Last year you did not receive a PI for GFL. [0:44:34, 0:44:38]: whatsoever. And I just recently added a PI the first of June. [0:44:38, 0:44:43]: of three percent. But now how the the price increase goes every year is is government [0:44:44, 0:44:58]: So next year it may only be 1.5%. It's based on the GOP. And I can forward that information to you so you can have a better understanding of it. But we haven't gotten any um increase from you guys since 2019. [0:44:59, 0:45:03]: Thank you, Mr. Isaac. But I know last year the council approved [0:45:04, 0:45:06]: additional funding for sanitation. [0:45:07, 0:45:08]: Mr. Aaron. [0:45:09, 0:45:15]: Do you recall um us having this conversation? I know that the whole the [0:45:15, 0:45:18]: Explanation was because of COVID, the [0:45:19, 0:45:26]: Everyone was spending a lot of time at home. So they were cleaning their garages, they had extra, you know, trash. [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: And [0:45:28, 0:45:30]: Waste industries was picking up the trash. [0:45:31, 0:45:31]: So [0:45:32, 0:45:34]: The council was asked to approve additional [0:45:34, 0:45:36]: cost associated with that. [0:45:36, 0:45:40]: Is that separate from what you're asking for here? [0:45:41, 0:45:57]: Yes, ma'am. We had a uh rate increase last year because the uh sanitation fee was up operating out of deficit. We were charging less than what was being charged us to dispose of the cart, but there's no increase for this year or the next year. [0:45:58, 0:46:03]: Okay, so I'm confused then. Mr. Knighton, help me please. Um [0:46:04, 0:46:05]: This contract I know [0:46:06, 0:46:11]: It says it expires um on the thirty first of this year. [0:46:11, 0:46:13]: And of course there is a [0:46:13, 0:46:16]: Um renewal of one year. [0:46:16, 0:46:21]: For five consecutive times. I don't know why this is being brought to us. [0:46:22, 0:46:25]: this early in the year, but I'm trying to understand [0:46:25, 0:46:27]: What in addition to what [0:46:27, 0:46:29]: The council approved last year. [0:46:30, 0:46:31]: Are we now? [0:46:31, 0:46:33]: As to approve now. [0:46:34, 0:46:36]: Let me let me see if I can try to [0:46:36, 0:46:38]: Clarify some things. One is [0:46:39, 0:46:44]: Reason why it's brought being brought now is because sanitation is a huge, huge [0:46:45, 0:46:47]: um infrastructure item. [0:46:47, 0:47:02]: And if the council were uncomfortable with moving forward with GFL or or not necessarily even uncomfortable with GFL, but wanting to bid it out, it would take several months to be able to construct that RFP, put it out. [0:47:02, 0:47:12]: uh and obviously uh review it, evaluate it and then bring it back before December before this particular contract expires. And that's why it's being brought now because it's just the [0:47:13, 0:47:16]: The massive nature of a sanitation contract. [0:47:17, 0:47:24]: The other thing is um related to your your uh other question related to costs uh associated with it. [0:47:24, 0:47:29]: I think there are two different things here. One is the contract, the actual contract with GFL. [0:47:30, 0:47:35]: Which Mr uh Isaac uh alluded to earlier in terms of consumer price index or GOP that [0:47:36, 0:47:40]: natural increase that that natural increase that would take based on [0:47:41, 0:47:48]: that price index, that's with their con that's with their contract and their assessment to us per the contract. [0:47:48, 0:47:55]: And so I think their their contract with us is about 1.1 million or so, right about 1.1 million. And so [0:47:55, 0:47:59]: So if it increased by one percent based on that governmental figure. [0:48:00, 0:48:01]: Then it would be a one percent [0:48:01, 0:48:04]: um increase that would be applied. [0:48:04, 0:48:06]: Per our contract with them. [0:48:06, 0:48:12]: The rate increase, if I recall correctly, the rate increase had to do with what is assessed [0:48:13, 0:48:14]: Per the um [0:48:15, 0:48:15]: for the resident. [0:48:16, 0:48:20]: Um that was the rate increase, if I remember that correctly. Is that m correct, Mr. Aaron? [0:48:21, 0:48:21]: Yes, sir. [0:48:26, 0:48:33]: So we're dealing with two things. One is the actual resident application of what the resident is charged. [0:48:34, 0:48:37]: Versus the contract with the GFL. [0:48:37, 0:48:43]: which would increase based on the a a price index or consumer price index type uh figure. [0:48:49, 0:48:52]: Does that answer your question, Ms. Barber? [0:48:54, 0:48:56]: Not really. But thank you. [0:48:57, 0:48:57]: Thank you. [0:48:58, 0:49:02]: Well we wanna well we wanna make sure that question gets answered and and and clarified. [0:49:03, 0:49:07]: Well in two thousand and nineteen when we had our budget retreat ret [0:49:08, 0:49:11]: tree we requested a rate increase because [0:49:11, 0:49:14]: The city was charging the residents twelve dollars per car. [0:49:15, 0:49:33]: And when we went in and calculated what the actual cost was per resident, it was$17.34 what the city was paying GFL and and uh waste management for the disposal. So we increased the rate to match the rate that GFL, we're not making any money or anything. We increased it. [0:49:34, 0:49:40]: to pay for the actual cost of disposal per resident. And that was the rate increase the city implemented. [0:49:42, 0:49:46]: So what is the difference between what we were what we're currently paying? [0:49:46, 0:49:49]: And what this n renewal includes. [0:49:50, 0:49:54]: We're j we're just renewing, I guess, at our current terms. [0:49:54, 0:50:00]: is that we're not re the city is not requesting a rate increase to to the residents. [0:50:00, 0:50:11]: Like I stated earlier, the last increase we had was just to cover the expenses that we were paying for the disposal. We were losing five dollars for every cart and we were supplementing that. [0:50:12, 0:50:20]: out of a uh small fund balance sanitation had. And when that would have been exhausted, then we would have had to find resources to cover the shortfall. [0:50:22, 0:50:23]: And just a [0:50:24, 0:50:29]: They were charged a seventeen thirty four cart. That's what we're paying per cart, but the city was dealing twelve dollars. [0:50:32, 0:50:34]: Well, go ahead, Mr. Isaac, you were gonna say something, sir? [0:50:40, 0:50:42]: Mr. Isaac, you were gonna say something, sir? [0:50:44, 0:51:00]: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was talking and I was muted. Um, our charge monthly is only about ten dollars and thirty-five cents per month. So it's not an astronomical fee that drove that increase, but if I'm not mistaken, it's been several years since the city of Stockbridge um had increased. [0:51:00, 0:51:09]: And that loss was really truly being affected. That's why I didn't pass along the the increase in 2019. [0:51:12, 0:51:14]: Okay. Thank you for that. [0:51:15, 0:51:17]: Uh Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:51:18, 0:51:24]: Yeah, Mayor, I just want to echo uh Councilman uh Thomas's uh sentiments when it comes to GFL. [0:51:24, 0:51:44]: Um I've I've been appreciative of his work and I've talked to many citizens that are appreciative of the of the job they're doing. Also um the work that they've done in communities uh which um trash days and all that's uh those things, whatever all that entailed. Um for for me, uh I would I like to make a motion. [0:51:44, 0:51:46]: motion to approve the uh contract. [0:51:47, 0:51:48]: With you. [0:51:49, 0:51:53]: Okay, Miss Gantt, welcome. She seconded any further the conversation discussion. [0:51:55, 0:51:59]: Yeah, Ms. Mayor Potem, go ahead, please. Yes, I certainly support the approval. [0:51:59, 0:52:02]: uh of this measure the service has been [0:52:02, 0:52:05]: Good for me. Okay. I've heard some uh you know [0:52:05, 0:52:09]: There's been some grumbling in the community from time to time about [0:52:09, 0:52:11]: Some things that have happened, but [0:52:11, 0:52:14]: For the most part, I certainly appreciate when they pivoted. [0:52:14, 0:52:18]: Uh on Martin Luther King uh King Junior holiday weekend. [0:52:19, 0:52:28]: And they gave their employees the day off. I I certainly wanna thank you for doing that because you did it on a dime. You gave them the day off and then you bumped the schedule back. [0:52:28, 0:52:30]: Uh in real time. [0:52:30, 0:52:38]: So we understand each other and moving forward. We uh hopefully that'll be uh a yearly thing automatic. I got a couple of operational things. [0:52:39, 0:52:40]: I know that I've had [0:52:40, 0:52:43]: А капла сидис контакт мі. [0:52:44, 0:52:48]: When the trucks come through the neighborhoods and they're driving down. [0:52:48, 0:52:56]: People are saying that they're driving behind the truck and there's trash blowing off the back of the truck that is causing some of the litter that we're having. [0:52:57, 0:53:02]: And i is there a a s a provision where maybe we could have somebody to go out [0:53:03, 0:53:04]: And take a look. [0:53:04, 0:53:06]: At those corridors to see [0:53:06, 0:53:26]: uh what they look like after the trash day because I've heard that from several citizens that uh when the trash is getting put in there as the truck is driving down the road, they've had some some of those issues. If we could probably get that rectified, I think we would uh certainly be in in good shape because the service has been very consistent uh as far as I'm concerned. [0:53:26, 0:53:32]: concern and uh, you know, we just need to make sure that we're cognizant of when we get feedback. [0:53:32, 0:53:43]: No worries. Um whatever you guys need, um when it comes down to, you know, checking back on the streets, I'm very open for suggestions, but [0:53:43, 0:53:51]: I don't want to put it on the citizens as far as how they load their trash, but a lot of citizens, they put loose trash. [0:53:51, 0:54:02]: And when you pack it up, it blows out. It's not the customer's fault. It's our job to make sure we service those communities and pick up that trash. So when you guys have any issues with GM. [0:54:03, 0:54:10]: So I want to be the first one to know so I can address it and I will put my supervisors on a daily basis to go out there. [0:54:10, 0:54:20]: the streets and if they see something, say something so we can get it corrected. Um but I I I would love to hear from all of you from time to time what GFL [0:54:20, 0:54:25]: because my job is to make sure we don't fail and I want to continue this partnership for years to come. [0:54:27, 0:54:40]: Okay. And I'll tell you what, I appreciate that, Mr. Isaac. And I will tell you what I want to also say that I've called you several times about issues and concerns in in my particular neighborhood or things I've heard from other neighborhoods as well. And you've been very responsive. [0:54:41, 0:54:46]: And so I appreciate your service and your guidance and your leadership in reference to your team. It's worked out pretty well. [0:54:46, 0:55:01]: And so I want to thank you for that. You you've uh come to the rescue and you solve these problems. If there were problems or some minute little issue, but you took care of it. And you took care of it with uh with a smile and with leadership and got it resolved. So I really appreciate that as well. [0:55:01, 0:55:07]: If there are if there are any other comments, what are they? If not, we had a motion and a second. [0:55:08, 0:55:10]: So seeing none, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:55:12, 0:55:13]: Okay, all polls. [0:55:14, 0:55:15]: Abstain. [0:55:16, 0:55:19]: Abstain. Okay, so it's four zero four zero one. Okay. [0:55:19, 0:55:20]: Record. [0:55:21, 0:55:24]: Um, Clark, I don't have adequate information. [0:55:25, 0:55:26]: Oh well that's candy. [0:55:26, 0:55:27]: Okay. [0:55:27, 0:55:32]: More zero one. Thank you, Ms. Isaac. I appreciate uh your presentation. Appreciate you being with us this this evening. [0:55:33, 0:55:39]: I'm I'm sorry, Mayor. The um the council young lady, what is her name? Councilman, that's councilwoman barber. [0:55:39, 0:55:51]: M Miss Barber, is it is it possible that you and I can meet, have a conversation so I can clear up what GFL can do for the for for the city of Top Brees as well as for yourself? [0:55:51, 0:55:54]: I I want to clear up any question that you may have in [0:55:54, 0:55:55]: But we make sure that you understand. [0:55:56, 0:55:57]: Absolutely. Thank you. [0:55:57, 0:56:04]: I will I will send you an email tomorrow. I have your email address and we go to lunch. And and I just want to say one thing before I go. [0:56:05, 0:56:07]: V van Vanessa Harry [0:56:07, 0:56:08]: She's the bomb. [0:56:08, 0:56:18]: And you got a great, great person there, a great contact for me. I really appreciate the relationship and working with her. And I can't wait till we get to GMA. [0:56:18, 0:56:20]: Um it's been too long. [0:56:20, 0:56:24]: Mr. Isaac, thank you. You guys take care and thank you. [0:56:25, 0:56:25]: Okay, bye bye now. [0:56:26, 0:56:45]: Okay, we'll move on. The public works and events department are requesting that the city council declare the surplus inventory list below for wood and kitchen supplies unserviceable items since the items can no longer be used advantageously by city staff. Presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [0:56:50, 0:56:52]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll let Miss McGee. [0:56:53, 0:56:58]: speak to this matter since they're doing some partial renovations at the Merrymanders in the kitchen. [0:57:02, 0:57:03]: You see? [0:57:10, 0:57:11]: Yeah. [0:57:12, 0:57:16]: I think we we might have lost her. She might be lost her there for a second. Yeah. [0:57:18, 0:57:23]: She said uh she sent me a message says she can't get on. I thought she was I thought we saw her. [0:57:23, 0:57:25]: I thought I did too. Oh, Councilman Blount, go ahead, sir. [0:57:25, 0:57:32]: Uh Mr. Mr. Aaron is is these the items you sent over to us um that that are unusable that that was um [0:57:33, 0:57:36]: These uh look like uh kitchen items or whatever that's unusable. [0:57:37, 0:57:37]: Yes, sir. [0:57:38, 0:57:50]: I mean, there's nothing we can do with and why we I mean, uh I I don't if it if it pleased the will of the council, I would like to go ahead and approve it. Um, the disposal, however, you guys gonna do it though without the presentation because that's [0:57:51, 0:57:54]: Uh if it's all right with the council, I'll let you go ahead and approve it. [0:57:56, 0:58:03]: I'm if that's no objection. Then make a motion, sir. You make a motion? I'd like to make a motion to approve uh this item. [0:58:03, 0:58:04]: Is there a second? [0:58:05, 0:58:06]: I think [0:58:06, 0:58:08]: Just ten seconds that any further discussion. [0:58:10, 0:58:11]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:58:12, 0:58:17]: Okay, so are these items that are being replaced with new items? [0:58:18, 0:58:19]: Mr. Aaron. [0:58:21, 0:58:26]: Yes, Councilmember Barbera, these items that are being surplused are being requested to be surplused have [0:58:27, 0:58:36]: outlived their useful life and they have been replaced and upgraded. So they're we're requesting that these items be declared surplus so the city can dispose of them. [0:58:38, 0:58:42]: Are these items operable? Do they work? [0:58:44, 0:58:50]: I'd have to uh speak Miss McGee to speak on it, but I I don't think they do. [0:58:51, 0:58:55]: Were these just items that were in inventory or something or? [0:58:55, 0:58:58]: We're doing renovation instead of Merrill Manders. I mean [0:58:59, 0:59:00]: [3540.6, 3550.2]: Go ahead, Deshaus. We're doing some renovations to the kitchen and these items have outused their useful outlived the out lasted their useful life and they're no longer serviceable. [0:59:10, 0:59:12]: For their intended usage. [0:59:15, 0:59:22]: Typically if items were put on if they were usable we would put them on gut deals or something like that. I believe these are beyond that. [0:59:23, 0:59:24]: Um [0:59:24, 0:59:31]: And uh these are just items that you know can't be fully used or placed on GUB deals to recoup any cost for. [0:59:35, 0:59:37]: Okay, any further questions? [0:59:38, 0:59:40]: Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, Councilman Barber. [0:59:41, 0:59:42]: So [0:59:43, 0:59:50]: Are these considered capital assets? I'm just curious because I know that we um approved the [0:59:50, 0:59:52]: Insurance. [0:59:52, 0:59:53]: How's he? [0:59:54, 0:59:56]: So are these items also included? [0:59:58, 1:00:00]: with the insurance policy that we just approved. [1:00:01, 1:00:04]: No, they're they're they're not they're not capital assets. [1:00:05, 1:00:07]: Camera assets is or items that are [1:00:08, 1:00:11]: That we would deem that that's over five thousand dollars. [1:00:12, 1:00:15]: These are not capital assets. These assets, these these are appliances. [1:00:16, 1:00:17]: That uh [1:00:18, 1:00:19]: Basically a job right now. [1:00:20, 1:00:24]: And we don't think we're gonna get anything on Gov Dale. So [1:00:25, 1:00:28]: Right now we're asking council, which by the ordinance. [1:00:28, 1:00:29]: We have to. [1:00:30, 1:00:31]: Before we throw'em away. [1:00:34, 1:00:39]: Now we we will before we throw'em away though, we will go back and see if it's something we can. [1:00:40, 1:00:42]: Put on Gov D up for one last time. [1:00:45, 1:00:48]: But most time when when when the public works, when he deems it [1:00:49, 1:00:51]: We can't use them on subscribe. [1:00:51, 1:00:52]: We just throw'em away. [1:00:56, 1:00:57]: Thank you. Mm-hmm. [1:00:57, 1:00:59]: Mirable Tim, Alexander Guay, please. [1:00:59, 1:01:05]: That begs the question, if we did put it on uh the dot gov site, is there a charge to do so? [1:01:09, 1:01:11]: Or is that just what we pay for the service? [1:01:13, 1:01:15]: No, there isn't a charge. [1:01:15, 1:01:21]: Okay, so w is there any harm enlisting them just to see whether or not they bring anything in? [1:01:21, 1:01:27]: No, there isn't. Once council approves it tonight, we'll automatically place it on Gov Deals and see what we can get on the bidding. [1:01:28, 1:01:35]: Okay, well let's do let's do that. Let's just not throw them away and just see what we can get for them. So yes, let's move forward. [1:01:35, 1:01:35]: Okay. [1:01:37, 1:01:40]: All right, so a motion is made in a second. Any further conversation? [1:01:42, 1:01:46]: All in favor of motion, please in the yes, uh one stand by, stand by folks. Miss Holiday. [1:01:46, 1:02:00]: I just want to make sure does the motion need to include that they will be placed on gov deals because that was made by a separate council member. I think that's uh I think they said that that's automatic. That's something they're gonna automatically do. Didn't you guys say that's something that you all is gonna automatically do? [1:02:00, 1:02:02]: I mean, I don't think it needs to be said. [1:02:03, 1:02:09]: Well, the treasurer said it wasn't required, then the procurement manager said that it would. So I just want clarification for the record. [1:02:10, 1:02:14]: We will put them on Gov deal if if if they can't sell within a year. [1:02:16, 1:02:16]: Um [1:02:17, 1:02:20]: We'll let council know that at that time when we can't sell'em. [1:02:21, 1:02:22]: We need to throw'em away. [1:02:23, 1:02:28]: I would clarify it in the motion that they be placed on gov deals if that's the pleasure of council. [1:02:29, 1:02:32]: Um, I like to include that it'd be placed on Gov deals. [1:02:33, 1:02:33]: Fair. [1:02:34, 1:02:36]: Uh yes, Ms. Uh [1:02:36, 1:02:37]: Yeah. [1:02:39, 1:02:56]: Ms. Grant? Um, yes. I I don't really need to know whether or not they sold or not on Gov Deal until the end if we kind of budget and show that we sold something for a surplus. I don't need I mean, we we already know the process. Go ahead and do it. If you get something out of it, great. Thank you. [1:02:57, 1:02:58]: All right. [1:02:58, 1:03:08]: Mayor mass say something. Yeah, go ahead, sir. If we say for a year we don't have storage room for it for these items. [1:03:09, 1:03:14]: So could we have a shorter time frame?'Cause we really don't have any storage room for [1:03:15, 1:03:16]: Items. [1:03:17, 1:03:21]: May Mayor, if you will. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. Go ahead. It's your motion, sir. [1:03:22, 1:03:33]: Uh Mayor, whatever their the staff deems is appropriate time to to post this and see if we can get anything from it, I'm fine with that. If it's unusable, what are we gonna do with it? [1:03:34, 1:03:37]: If it doesn't sell them good, then what we're gonna do, put them back in the Merrill Manders? [1:03:38, 1:03:51]: I mean, come on. You I mean, you know, we we'll we'll I mean staff, I I I believe you all are gonna post it. I believe you all, if we can get anything for it, you're gonna get it. And uh I'd just like for us to go ahead and uh prove this and keep moving. [1:03:52, 1:03:57]: All right, so let's make sure that we have the motion right. What do you have for the motion, Ms. Clerk, please? [1:03:57, 1:04:05]: The motion is to uh put the items on gov deals and to approve as stated. [1:04:06, 1:04:07]: That these items be surplused. [1:04:08, 1:04:16]: Uh the the motion is that the that we move to surplus these items and allow staff to replace them on gov deals at a deemed time that they that they uh [1:04:17, 1:04:19]: uh that they deem is the appropriate time for. [1:04:21, 1:04:21]: А сек [1:04:22, 1:04:23]: All right. [1:04:24, 1:04:26]: Ms. Alda, you have that correct now? [1:04:27, 1:04:28]: Yes, sir. [1:04:28, 1:04:30]: All right. Any further conversation? [1:04:31, 1:04:33]: If not, all favored motion please indicate. [1:04:34, 1:04:34]: Uh [1:04:35, 1:04:45]: Okay. It's a unanimous decision. Fantastic. Thank you very much. All right. Uh what's next is a council on aging board appointment presented by Mr. Washington, please. [1:04:48, 1:04:55]: No, there was a Miss Barber now getting Mr. Night to help out who's of no relation to Councilwoman Barber who was interested in this position. [1:04:55, 1:04:59]: And I guess at this time I guess Mr. Night you can tell me. [1:05:01, 1:05:03]: Um, what else needs to be presented before the council? [1:05:04, 1:05:14]: Well, let before Mr. Night, normally what happens when we have this it deals with citizens here, typically we go into Zegar session and discuss it and then come out of Zegar session and and and make our [1:05:14, 1:05:15]: Or vote known. [1:05:16, 1:05:21]: Uh unless un unless the the the council doesn't want to do that. I mean there are two individuals here. [1:05:21, 1:05:26]: So um and I don't know if I know either person know either one of them myself, but uh [1:05:26, 1:05:29]: Anyway, that's typically what happens, Mr Washington. Two individuals. [1:05:29, 1:05:31]: Okay. [1:05:31, 1:05:32]: Isn't there only two? [1:05:32, 1:05:34]: I thought it was one. [1:05:34, 1:05:37]: There's two. [1:05:37, 1:05:41]: Okay, and and and and there's only one position available or two positions? [1:05:41, 1:05:48]: That is correct. And just um to state for the history, the previous um representative has moved out of the area. [1:05:49, 1:05:49]: Okay. [1:05:51, 1:05:55]: All right. Mr. Nine, uh Mr Washington asked you a question, sir. I don't [1:05:55, 1:05:56]: If you want to respond to that. [1:05:56, 1:06:01]: No, I I think you answered the question that, you know, you've got um two citizens here who [1:06:02, 1:06:07]: um, are candidates for this board and typically the council discusses that in executive session. [1:06:07, 1:06:08]: Makes determination. [1:06:09, 1:06:11]: Well, I didn't know there was anything else I needed there. [1:06:13, 1:06:17]: Well that's that's why I mentioned it. That's that typically that's what happens. Uh we got one position, two people. [1:06:17, 1:06:23]: And we typically go in since it's personnel a type issue and appointment, we go into a single session and discuss it, then come back out. [1:06:23, 1:06:32]: Okay. That's that's what we typically do, counsel. Is that if that's the case, we'll do that tonight, unless somehow there's a consensus not to do that with this these two individuals. [1:06:33, 1:06:40]: Mayor, if you don't mind, uh if you will I I think that we have two candidates. [1:06:40, 1:06:51]: And we have to make that choice. I think that it's best to make that choice behind closed doors and come back and give uh our appointment. Okay, I gotcha. I understand. So we'll uh if that's if that's the case, uh we'll we'll do that. [1:06:52, 1:07:01]: And we'll come back from executive session and make that announcement at that point. Okay, on that note then um HB 317 collecting tax for short-term rentals. [1:07:01, 1:07:03]: Once again, Mr. Washington, it's on you, sir. [1:07:04, 1:07:09]: Yeah. This is just a hotel motel excise tax. [1:07:09, 1:07:12]: that we're asking for you all's support of. [1:07:12, 1:07:17]: And the fund management will be the unrestricted HMT collections and special revenue. [1:07:17, 1:07:18]: B [1:07:19, 1:07:33]: Revenue that we listed here is for the hotels and the motels that would be in City of Stockbridge. And this is the House Ways and Means Bill that was submitted in that this was House Bill 317, which was submitted. [1:07:35, 1:07:37]: with this as part of joining the legislature. [1:07:37, 1:07:40]: And so we would be asking for [1:07:41, 1:07:44]: You all's participation in supporting this. [1:07:45, 1:07:46]: And we would just draft the [1:07:48, 1:07:51]: I'm realizing you all y'all aren't seeing what I'm looking at on my screen. So [1:07:52, 1:07:52]: That irrelevant. [1:07:53, 1:07:55]: We would just draft the [1:07:55, 1:07:57]: You would just draft the appropriate resolution. [1:07:58, 1:07:58]: Format. [1:07:59, 1:08:01]: Well actually an ordinance format for this. [1:08:02, 1:08:03]: To be able to be adopted. [1:08:04, 1:08:05]: Okay. [1:08:06, 1:08:08]: Uh questions uh for Mr. Washington. [1:08:09, 1:08:18]: I'm assuming that uh howdy lay that out that you're an you're accept that. If that's the case, uh we need a motion to accept to his proposal in this aspect. [1:08:19, 1:08:26]: Is there a move? So move. Mayor Pro Tem. Okay, so moved. Is there a second? Mayor okay, council, Councilman Blount, second that. [1:08:26, 1:08:28]: Any further discussion? [1:08:28, 1:08:33]: I would just like to say a couple of words is that so the folks understand what's going on. [1:08:33, 1:08:35]: Uh you know the things that the city is working on. [1:08:36, 1:08:42]: Uh like the wayfinding sign it so you actually know where a building is, where you will know where the amphitheater is. [1:08:42, 1:08:44]: Well, you know where our city limits is. [1:08:45, 1:08:47]: Those types of things are full are funded by [1:08:47, 1:08:49]: The whole tail multi on text. [1:08:49, 1:08:54]: I was at a very excellent uh retreat with the Main Street Advisory Board. [1:08:54, 1:08:56]: And the D D A. [1:08:56, 1:09:00]: We talked about tourism, and I know tourism is one of the things that you can [1:09:00, 1:09:01]: Um [1:09:01, 1:09:02]: You can support. [1:09:03, 1:09:05]: uh with the hotel motel tax. [1:09:05, 1:09:10]: And I heard a great idea from uh this uh the advisory board that they wanted [1:09:10, 1:09:12]: To present a statue. [1:09:12, 1:09:14]: Of the King family with their [1:09:14, 1:09:16]: Uh with their permission. [1:09:16, 1:09:21]: Of course, uh up in in in downtown Stockbridge. They working on a mural. [1:09:21, 1:09:22]: Those types of things apply. [1:09:23, 1:09:25]: uh for this as well as [1:09:25, 1:09:34]: uh you know, uh other items. So understanding that these dollars will be put to good use and uh they're uh commensurate with the surrounding jurisdictions. [1:09:35, 1:09:40]: Any other questions? Understand if not, the motion is made and seconded. [1:09:41, 1:09:42]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:09:44, 1:09:47]: I okay now decision. Fantastic. [1:09:48, 1:09:53]: And for discussion's sake, uh we're gonna talk about uh T S PLOSS. Uh Mr. Knighton, please. [1:09:58, 1:10:03]: Uh yes, Mayor Ford. I will uh attempt it to share my screen here in just a moment. [1:10:03, 1:10:09]: This relates to the uh transportation proposed transportation splots that will be coming up by vote. [1:10:10, 1:10:11]: uh in november [1:10:11, 1:10:14]: Um Henry County, um [1:10:15, 1:10:16]: Probably early to mid July. [1:10:17, 1:10:22]: Um, we'll call for that referendum, essentially call for that referendum to be placed on the ballot. [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: uh for a November boat. [1:10:24, 1:10:27]: Oh, from we have discussed from time to time. [1:10:27, 1:10:29]: Um the [1:10:30, 1:10:31]: Is much easier. [1:10:32, 1:10:35]: From time to time we have discussed the um [1:10:35, 1:10:36]: Uh [1:10:36, 1:10:40]: various items that would be potentially on a T Splost. [1:10:41, 1:10:44]: And uh the different projects that would be [1:10:44, 1:10:48]: Uh on that particular list from the city of Stockbridge. [1:10:50, 1:10:51]: All right, there we go. [1:10:52, 1:10:54]: All right, let me see if I can share. [1:10:57, 1:10:57]: One [1:10:59, 1:11:01]: Can everyone see my screen here? [1:11:02, 1:11:04]: Now we can, yes sir. Go right ahead. Okay, good. All right. [1:11:05, 1:11:11]: All right, I'll go through this for uh for for you council and also for the viewing public as well. [1:11:12, 1:11:15]: Uh, because we will the city will need to make some decisions. [1:11:16, 1:11:17]: With respect to this. [1:11:17, 1:11:24]: Course, um, as always, we start with our vision statement, which is important to be the most progressive business and family oriented community. [1:11:25, 1:11:31]: in Metro Atlanta with an enhanced or focus on enhanced quality of life initiatives which promote a sustainable live, work, play environment. [1:11:32, 1:11:34]: And certainly transportation and trails. [1:11:35, 1:11:37]: Walkability functionality. [1:11:37, 1:11:39]: is something that um [1:11:39, 1:11:41]: supports that mission statement. [1:11:42, 1:11:47]: The T spas is expected to generate two hundred and forty five to two hundred and fifty million dollar total. [1:11:47, 1:11:51]: Uh in the county, um as you recall back in April. [1:11:51, 1:11:57]: Uh, when there was a uh called meeting of the county and all of the city jurisdictions. [1:11:57, 1:12:01]: County expects city contribution on certain projects. [1:12:11, 1:12:12]: It looks like uh [1:12:12, 1:12:13]: Something got stuck here. [1:12:19, 1:12:19]: All right. [1:12:21, 1:12:24]: Well, I may have to refer to you all. You should have um [1:12:25, 1:12:27]: Receive this item. I don't know what just happened here. [1:12:28, 1:12:29]: Um [1:12:30, 1:12:36]: But basically the um city would be expected city city of Stockbridge would be expected to receive [1:12:36, 1:12:40]: In the range of twenty five to thirty milyen dollars. [1:12:40, 1:12:42]: There are a couple of things that the county is seeking. [1:12:43, 1:12:45]: Um the city to provide some direction. [1:12:46, 1:12:47]: Or the city needs to determine. [1:12:48, 1:12:49]: One of which [1:12:49, 1:12:54]: Um would be um the percentage split. As you recall, there have been some [1:12:55, 1:12:58]: Concerns about various percentage splits, the cities. [1:12:58, 1:13:01]: Uh, were more in tune of working off of a [1:13:02, 1:13:04]: Percentage split based on population. [1:13:05, 1:13:09]: And um the county had uh a various [1:13:10, 1:13:12]: Um options that they propose, but [1:13:13, 1:13:15]: Um the cities proposed working off of population. [1:13:16, 1:13:19]: And then the other item was related to [1:13:20, 1:13:30]: the um city um uh share or contribution to um to the um [1:13:31, 1:13:35]: uh T S PLOST itself. In other words, there were a couple of projects, one of which was [1:13:36, 1:13:37]: The um [1:13:38, 1:13:40]: project related to Hudson Bridge Road. [1:13:41, 1:13:42]: I'm gonna try this again. [1:13:43, 1:13:44]: Hudson Bridge Road. [1:13:44, 1:13:47]: And uh Eagles Landing Parkway. [1:13:47, 1:13:49]: And some [1:13:49, 1:13:50]: Mm-hmm. [1:13:50, 1:13:52]: Contribution there. [1:13:53, 1:13:53]: All right. [1:13:54, 1:13:59]: Can you s can you see that, Mayor and Council? Yes, yeah, we can okay. We'll leave it there. Thank you. We'll leave it there. [1:14:00, 1:14:04]: Um so Rock Quarry World riding from Hudson Bridge to Hospital Drive. [1:14:04, 1:14:12]: State Route 138, that's 2.45 miles. The split based on lane miles is 70-30, which the county proposed. [1:14:12, 1:14:20]: And once stock bridge to contribute eighteen million dollars, as you see in Henry County contribute eight million dollars. Again, this is what was mentioned at the last. [1:14:21, 1:14:23]: uh the uh joint meeting and I wanna make sure that we [1:14:24, 1:14:25]: uh address that particular issue. [1:14:27, 1:14:27]: The next item [1:14:28, 1:14:33]: Hudson Bridge Road and Eagles Landing Parkway resurfacing from Millis Drive to State Route 42. [1:14:33, 1:14:39]: Total of two point nine miles. That split is thirty point five percent, sixty-nine point five percent. [1:14:39, 1:14:44]: Stockbridge's contribution would be four hundred and eighty-nine thousand nine hundred and eighty-two dollars. [1:14:44, 1:14:53]: Henry Counties is$1.116 million. Again, this is what the county proposed in terms of a split in share. [1:14:53, 1:14:56]: For those particular roadway projects. [1:14:56, 1:14:59]: Um that traverse both jurisdictions. [1:14:59, 1:15:05]: This is a uh a just component of our bicycle, pedestrian, and trail plan. Obviously that's very important. [1:15:05, 1:15:07]: It was seeking to implement. [1:15:07, 1:15:10]: And then this list is a list you've seen before. [1:15:10, 1:15:12]: Um that [1:15:12, 1:15:21]: uh is a proposed list of projects for the city of Stockbridge as it relates to the T Splost. As you can see there, there are a number of projects that deal with [1:15:22, 1:15:25]: Um some curbing gutter sidewalks and widening. [1:15:25, 1:15:33]: Uh resurfacing and sidewalks on Davison Parkway, Old Atlanta Road, Tie Street sidewalks, Davis Road, Curb and Gutter and Sidewalks. [1:15:33, 1:15:34]: Reeves Creek Trail. [1:15:34, 1:15:39]: M L K Heritage Trail, um the extension of the um [1:15:40, 1:15:40]: Um [1:15:41, 1:15:44]: uh potential trailhead location with Reeves Creek Trail link. [1:15:45, 1:15:51]: Um and also a country club drive, uh traffic and safety improvements at a million dollars, and then Burke Street. [1:15:51, 1:15:56]: uh pedestrian improvement sidewalks love street as well as well as Walt Stevens Road Trail. [1:15:57, 1:16:03]: One of the things that is of of utmost importance, um, I believe, um based on council. [1:16:03, 1:16:06]: uh comments as well is connectivity. [1:16:06, 1:16:09]: Um, especially throughout our downtown. [1:16:09, 1:16:14]: Uh with respect to obviously city hall, the amphitheater, municipal court, you've got Clark Park. [1:16:14, 1:16:17]: Garden Park Merrill Manders Conference Center. [1:16:17, 1:16:21]: We've got the what is the Ted Stricton facility that'll be uh renovated. [1:16:21, 1:16:23]: Мейн стріт офіс. [1:16:23, 1:16:30]: You have the library, the tag office, and then you have of course the Martin Luther King Herit uh Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [1:16:30, 1:16:35]: Uh and then over to uh Memorial Park. So if you look at all of these public facilities. [1:16:35, 1:16:39]: Uh, they're really within about a mile and a quarter, mile and a half of one another. [1:16:39, 1:16:42]: And to be able to provide uh a [1:16:42, 1:16:43]: Um pedestrian [1:16:44, 1:16:46]: Um аксес. [1:16:46, 1:16:52]: And connectivity uh throughout the traditional downtown, as well as obviously you see some other road projects on there. [1:16:52, 1:16:55]: Is the impetus for uh this particular list? [1:16:56, 1:17:00]: Um again, uh a couple of things that would need to be determined by the council. [1:17:00, 1:17:04]: is um the population sp or the the percentage split. [1:17:05, 1:17:08]: Also, if there is a desire to [1:17:08, 1:17:15]: Um, contribute to any one of those road projects, the Rock Fori Road Widening or the Eagles Landing Hudson Bridge Resurfacing Project. [1:17:16, 1:17:19]: And then uh if there's anything on this particular list. [1:17:20, 1:17:25]: um that the council wants to see modified or anything that you would like to see included. [1:17:25, 1:17:29]: And so with that, Mayor, I will uh stop sharing the screen for a moment. [1:17:30, 1:17:50]: And um uh obviously entertain any questions or thoughts from the council. Well let me ask you this. I there was a time time frame we had to give a uh some type of maybe I missed this. I I don't know. If you said this, shame on me if I missed it, but I thought there was a we have to give the uh Henry County government an answer on what what we're gonna do here here shortly, I believe. [1:17:50, 1:18:05]: sometime this month, is that correct or is that next month? Well, right. Originally it was mid June, which is why I'm bringing this now. Okay. However, I talked to uh the Henry County Transportation Planner um in fact uh late this this evening and uh he said he mentioned by the end of the month [1:18:06, 1:18:09]: Okay. So if this is something that you still need to ponder. [1:18:09, 1:18:12]: Obviously, I think we have an opportunity to do that. [1:18:13, 1:18:18]: But we will certainly need to come back at the next meeting and make some definitive decisions with respect to these items. [1:18:19, 1:18:21]: Councilman Blanc, go ahead, please. [1:18:23, 1:18:26]: Yeah, Mr. Knight and um and this is kind of [1:18:27, 1:18:31]: in line with uh roads when it comes to the city of Stockbridge. [1:18:32, 1:18:35]: One of the projects pertaining to Rose was kind of [1:18:35, 1:18:39]: You know, a thing of the past now, which was an extension of Rock Quarry Road. [1:18:40, 1:18:50]: uh what is the what is district four and district five gonna do about the millions of dollars that they were pulled from from the city area stockbridge pertaining to roads that they could apply to this [1:18:51, 1:19:05]: Instead of looking at the city of Stockbridge right now, first of all, reapplying the money that was allotted to that road in itself, the widening rock core uh extension, which could have been redirected to the widening because it's still dealing with roads. [1:19:06, 1:19:12]: uh with splot when is that when where the negotiation for that money is to be returned to the city areas of stockbridge. [1:19:15, 1:19:20]: See, we're just because because the I'm sorry, the questions are about how much money we're gonna put in. [1:19:21, 1:19:25]: But we'll but for me, I'm asking the question of when will the monies be returned? [1:19:26, 1:19:31]: to the cities of the city of Stockbridge that the that the that the citizens of Stockbridge paid into splots for. [1:19:35, 1:19:44]: Well, uh I I uh if if the you're talking about the extension of Rock Court Road, and I understand that maybe some monies have been shifted here or there or to other places. [1:19:44, 1:19:46]: Think that's what might we may be alluding to. [1:19:47, 1:19:53]: Um, you know, I I had asked some questions pertaining to Rock Quarry Road and Rock Quarry Road in particular and the funds that have been [1:19:54, 1:19:55]: Um [1:19:55, 1:19:58]: provided uh previously to Rock Quarry Road. [1:19:59, 1:20:00]: Um, if the question is [1:20:01, 1:20:01]: And thank you. [1:20:03, 1:20:06]: We I think the council needs to make a decision regarding this D's plus. [1:20:06, 1:20:11]: If the question is then if there is some concern about what has happened in the past. [1:20:11, 1:20:18]: then the then then the council can look at that and determine that there won't be any contribution on these particular roadway projects. [1:20:18, 1:20:25]: uh be it Hudson Bridge or Rockford Road. Now there is some some some funds that were specifically designated. [1:20:27, 1:20:29]: For a project in Stockbridge. [1:20:29, 1:20:32]: The city has not received or the project. [1:20:33, 1:20:34]: Has not come to fruition. [1:20:35, 1:20:37]: Then that is a question that [1:20:37, 1:20:41]: Certainly warren's asking and determining where those funds may have gone. [1:20:42, 1:20:46]: Well in in this in and let me let me go ahead and clarif get some clari clarify this. [1:20:47, 1:20:55]: Even if the when we talk about working collaborately with the county in funding for these roads. [1:20:55, 1:21:05]: Uh I think that we have to sit at the table altogether and talk about the totality of funds that that that are needed and how we fit into this. Um [1:21:06, 1:21:15]: I think that when we look at the the portion that we're gonna be putting in in certain roles with with the city of Stockbridge, I I think it's kind of a bit a lot, but [1:21:16, 1:21:21]: It needs to be done, but I think that we really need to evaluate and look over what's what's going on because when you [1:21:21, 1:21:26]: Those funds have been utilized. Let me go go there. [1:21:27, 1:21:29]: But how do we now come back? [1:21:30, 1:21:34]: District four, district five, and the city of Stockbridge to two. [1:21:34, 1:21:37]: sit at the table and make these things happen. [1:21:37, 1:21:38]: Mm. [1:21:39, 1:21:42]: Other than the per I think these percent for me. [1:21:42, 1:21:49]: Uh I'm I'm okay with the Hudson Bridge road percentage, but I think to to me, I think the other percentage is kind of high for the City Stockbridge. [1:21:49, 1:21:57]: Because remember this now, because I'm not suggesting that you do necessarily make determinations about contribution or or how much that's your decision to make. [1:21:58, 1:22:05]: But the list that I showed with those uh trail projects, sidewall projects, and road projects for the city of Stockbridge that actually totaled$29 million. [1:22:05, 1:22:07]: Anything that you are [1:22:07, 1:22:09]: going to contribute. [1:22:09, 1:22:11]: To those other road projects that I mentioned. [1:22:12, 1:22:16]: is going to have to be subtracted from that particular list. [1:22:16, 1:22:18]: I just want that to be clear. [1:22:20, 1:22:24]: Okay, yeah, but stand by please. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [1:22:24, 1:22:30]: Yeah, and understanding uh what Councilman Blount said, there was four million dollars that was allocated [1:22:30, 1:22:35]: to the East Atlanta Road Extension, which is a project that certainly could have benefited [1:22:35, 1:22:39]: The amphitheater with additional access. So that four million dollars was. [1:22:39, 1:22:40]: Moved away. [1:22:41, 1:22:44]: Uh from downtown Stockbridge, it was allocated. [1:22:44, 1:22:47]: Реалока то але кани проєкts. [1:22:47, 1:22:53]: Uh there was two million dollars uh for the flipping road sidewalks. There's no sidewalks on flipping road. [1:22:53, 1:22:56]: That is a separate discussion because the law [1:22:56, 1:23:00]: Requires that these projects, the voters completed. [1:23:00, 1:23:06]: uh uh voted on and approved be completed at some point. That's the splash law. [1:23:06, 1:23:07]: I'm not sure how. [1:23:08, 1:23:09]: They're able to not do that. [1:23:10, 1:23:11]: As a part of [1:23:11, 1:23:15]: uh what the law is because it requires them to complete these projects. So [1:23:15, 1:23:17]: We need uh that's probably maybe like a [1:23:18, 1:23:23]: legal thing that we need to really talk to our attorneys about. Is there any recourse [1:23:23, 1:23:25]: uh under the splash law to [1:23:25, 1:23:33]: Recoup those funds. And in discussing what we're dealing with now in terms of the T-SPLOST, the window is very short. [1:23:34, 1:23:45]: And honestly, we we we need uh these funds. The twenty million dollars in additional funds will help us to be able to build uh our master trail plan. And understanding this. [1:23:45, 1:23:48]: There's no way possible. [1:23:48, 1:23:52]: for those those formulas to work so no [1:23:52, 1:24:04]: We the formulas are not gonna work where the city budget is twelve million dollars a year and the new county budget is like a hundred and ninety million dollars. If we're paying sixty percent. [1:24:04, 1:24:06]: Those road projects will never happen. [1:24:07, 1:24:15]: And I keep uh wanting to understand that these citizens who live in Stockbridge cast ballots countywide. [1:24:15, 1:24:25]: Uh so I mean for the county election of those two commissioners. So when they come to these citizens and they ask for their vote, they don't they don't say to them, you know. [1:24:25, 1:24:36]: All of your road or or 70% of your roads need to be taken care of by the city and and then 30% us. How would we ever come up with that funding? The county receives [1:24:36, 1:24:40]: All of the funding, a hundred and ninety million dollars, to do [1:24:41, 1:24:54]: Just that. And every and you can't say that the county's not benefiting from uh the funding that's going into Rock Quarry Road or all all of those those that benefits all of us. And they're reaping a windfall. [1:24:54, 1:24:57]: uh over these collections because they're up tremendously. [1:24:58, 1:25:00]: And the the city needs to make sure that [1:25:00, 1:25:02]: We move forward. [1:25:02, 1:25:05]: To approve this. You know, last time we got into this dispute. [1:25:06, 1:25:17]: uh with the county between twenty-five and and thirty percent and we ended up losing several million dollars when they decided to go in another direction. Unfortunately the splotch laws and even the T splotch laws [1:25:17, 1:25:29]: or vo uh or written in favor of the county because the county calls these particular elections and should and with the relationship that we have they gone on their own and left us out. [1:25:29, 1:25:41]: was cost us six million dollars on the last floss. So we gotta be we gotta be we gotta make prudent decisions in order for us to move forward because there's we just cannot afford not to have [1:25:41, 1:25:45]: Uh this T Splus funding with traffic backed up every single day in our city. [1:25:47, 1:25:49]: Councilwoman uh Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:25:51, 1:25:54]: Thank you, Mayor. Um, I'm agreeing with [1:25:54, 1:26:02]: But both of my colleagues, I I do want to say that I believe that Commissioner District Number Four is willing to work with us. [1:26:03, 1:26:08]: On certain projects jointly, however, I also have some concerns. [1:26:08, 1:26:09]: Um [1:26:09, 1:26:14]: based off of the formula that was presented to us by the county. [1:26:14, 1:26:17]: We wouldn't be able to do any of the road projects. [1:26:18, 1:26:24]: I hope that all of my colleagues here are agreeing that we do want the teeth gloss. [1:26:25, 1:26:28]: But it sounds like negotiation's gonna be towards what [1:26:29, 1:26:34]: formula or what roads are we gonna agree to work with the county on jointly. [1:26:34, 1:26:45]: And currently, although it is badly needed, and when I say badly needed, Rock Quarry Road expansion, I mean you know, to to widen that road. [1:26:45, 1:26:47]: Is is [1:26:48, 1:27:02]: ambulances going to a hospital that is actually within the county and not in the city limits. The impact of the road is from the hospital. And that's some other things that we need to discuss as well. [1:27:02, 1:27:22]: However, it is unreasonable to think that we can agree to the formula that is presented as is as of now. And what I want to know from legal and from um from our uh Mr. Knighton is where are we with those particular negotiations? Um, because I we I would love to get our mass. [1:27:22, 1:27:24]: the trail plan up and running. [1:27:24, 1:27:29]: Um that would benefit us, but based off of the formula right now, just so the public knows. [1:27:29, 1:27:40]: we we wouldn't be able to do anything because all our money would be going towards county projects, joint county projects for a few roads and they have the majority of the funds. [1:27:41, 1:27:42]: So [1:27:42, 1:27:46]: In in addition to that, when it comes to splots and reallocating funds. [1:27:47, 1:27:59]: Um the projects that the money that was reallocated was sent over to a park up in the Fairview area that is not within the city limits of Stockbridge. It was a single park. [1:27:59, 1:28:13]: Um those things are documented in black and white and can be seen from anyone by anyone. And so we do need to make those points and efforts. Whether or not we'll be able to retrieve that back, I I don't know. [1:28:13, 1:28:19]: Um but uh we've known as Sotridge to honor our side of the bargaining. [1:28:20, 1:28:26]: portion. So I'm just asking that we, you know, if we're gonna go ahead and move forward with this. [1:28:27, 1:28:39]: We're moving forward, but we have plans for roads and we have plans. I mean, we have plans for our master trail and for our downtown area, but the funding is not there if we are, you know. So so what's the next step? [1:28:42, 1:28:45]: Well, I I think the issue though is [1:28:46, 1:28:47]: You know [1:28:47, 1:28:51]: What is the answer from the city with respect to those two projects that I've mentioned? [1:28:52, 1:28:56]: Your answer could be that um you don't desire to contribute anything. [1:28:57, 1:28:59]: And that you desire to [1:28:59, 1:29:05]: um move forward with the list of projects in the city of Stockbridge that I recounted uh uh just a while ago. [1:29:06, 1:29:09]: You could determine that you uh want to contribute to. [1:29:09, 1:29:15]: uh to a a certain point on those road projects, not the full amount that's listed or [1:29:15, 1:29:19]: That was mentioned by the county, you may want to contribute a certain amount. [1:29:20, 1:29:21]: Um or [1:29:21, 1:29:26]: Um you may want to decide that you want to contribute the full amount. Doesn't sound like you want to do that. [1:29:27, 1:29:31]: Um but um those are options that uh that you have and [1:29:32, 1:29:35]: And obviously as a sovereign city, you can make that decision. [1:29:35, 1:29:45]: And and let the county know this is where the city has landed with respect to T Sploss, that you believe that is in the best interest of the citizens of Stockbridge and Henry County. [1:29:46, 1:29:48]: Um, based on the ultimate determination you make. [1:29:50, 1:29:55]: And then also there has to be a master uh a master list, a master transportation list. [1:29:55, 1:29:59]: It's going the the county is going to have to decide as well in mid July. [1:30:00, 1:30:06]: Well what it is before uh stand by what I imagine we could have discussion tonight and then [1:30:06, 1:30:26]: And potentially once the meeting ends, have continue to have discussion and make a final decision at our next meeting, our work session, um if that's the case. Uh and because you said that uh today that you got a word that they don't necessarily need and know until the end of the month. And so we will meet at least officially one more time before the end of the month. But that's just food for thought for the rest of the council. [1:30:26, 1:30:27]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [1:30:29, 1:30:35]: Uh one of the things that we should understand is that we have an existing agreement with the county. [1:30:35, 1:30:55]: That they enforced on the last PLOS at 75-25. That's the way that it has always traditionally been. If there was gonna be, it was it was broken down between 75-25. So I'm not sure how they came up with this new formula that the city would be contributing 60 and 70. [1:30:55, 1:31:15]: 70%, the month the the the old formula seemed to be better because understanding is split based on how much of the funding that you receive from SWAS. So that would seem more reasonable uh for us to continue along the same process that they insisted upon. [1:31:15, 1:31:15]: Yeah. [1:31:15, 1:31:18]: Uh on the last flash, which was seventy five, twenty-five. [1:31:19, 1:31:20]: Uh, should we decide? [1:31:20, 1:31:21]: Uh to contribute. [1:31:22, 1:31:26]: Let me if I may, Mayor, let me make one point'cause I want to make sure this is clear. [1:31:27, 1:31:32]: The two projects that I showed, Hudson Bridge and Eagles Landing Parkway, and then the Rock Court Road project. [1:31:32, 1:31:46]: Those are based on lane miles. Those are based on how much of those roads go through the city of Stockbridge versus unincorporated. That's their breakdown. Okay. That's why they presented it that way. Okay. And they're asking for the city to contribute. [1:31:47, 1:31:48]: The overall collection. [1:31:49, 1:31:53]: In terms of a seventy five, twenty-five, as you mentioned, mayor pro tem or seventy thirty. [1:31:53, 1:31:57]: The overall collection of how they're split by the city, that's a different calculation. [1:31:58, 1:32:01]: based on in the cities of Sey, that should be based on population. [1:32:01, 1:32:05]: Now the the county seemingly was a lot more receptive. [1:32:05, 1:32:09]: To the population breakdown, which would be about thirty percent for us. [1:32:09, 1:32:12]: population break uh for the cities, I'm sorry, overall. [1:32:12, 1:32:17]: Музмо рецепти в популяцію. [1:32:17, 1:32:22]: uh for the T Splos as opposed to the traditional SPLOS that was passed uh previous year. [1:32:25, 1:32:28]: Okay, thank you for that. Any further questions or comments? [1:32:28, 1:32:31]: Council. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:32:31, 1:32:39]: Yeah, I just wanted to ask Mr. Knighton, looking at the map, it indicates the potential trailhead and linked to Reeves Creek Trail. [1:32:39, 1:32:40]: Uh-huh. [1:32:40, 1:32:42]: Can you tell me which end? [1:32:42, 1:32:43]: Um [1:32:45, 1:32:48]: Martin Luther King Senior Heritage, where this trailhead would be. [1:32:50, 1:32:52]: Can't tell based on this map. Let me see. [1:32:53, 1:32:58]: It would be um I'm sorry, which which side of [1:32:59, 1:32:59]: Mm. [1:33:00, 1:33:01]: The [1:33:01, 1:33:05]: So I'm looking at the table that's included on the map and it says in the [1:33:06, 1:33:07]: See your hair display. [1:33:08, 1:33:10]: But then it also lists [1:33:10, 1:33:13]: Several of the connecting points, I guess. One of [1:33:14, 1:33:15]: Potentially friendly. [1:33:16, 1:33:18]: And Lee Lee's Creek Trail. [1:33:18, 1:33:29]: Sir I would think it'd be Memorial Park is where it would be. That's what I would think. But anyway, yes, go ahead and map protect. [1:33:29, 1:33:32]: of the parking at Memorial Ro Memorial. [1:33:32, 1:33:37]: uh part that was the desire. We talked about it at that time when we discussed it. [1:33:37, 1:33:38]: But there's no particular [1:33:39, 1:33:41]: uh piece parcel that has been acquired. [1:33:41, 1:33:46]: uh as of yet and I don't think we want to talk about which parcel in public. [1:33:46, 1:33:49]: Right. Yep. That's right. Okay. That's right. Thank you. [1:33:52, 1:33:55]: All right, yeah, okay. Any other comments or questions? [1:33:57, 1:34:17]: All right, so I made a s a suggestion or a thought process. I mean, we'll could probably continue this on for another week or so and make a final decision uh at our next meeting. Uh or is that that the the consensus here on this particular issue further discussion? Uh if that's if that's the case, if there are no other comments then we will do that. And [1:34:17, 1:34:21]: and uh we'll make a consolidated uh decision. [1:34:21, 1:34:24]: In a little bit, in about ten to twelve days or so. [1:34:24, 1:34:25]: All right. [1:34:25, 1:34:30]: If there's no other comments, then I'm gonna move out of discussion and I'll go into my particular comments. [1:34:30, 1:34:32]: I'm I'm sorry, Mr. Night, you have something, sir? [1:34:33, 1:34:34]: Are you good? Okay. [1:34:35, 1:34:36]: I'll go into my particular comments. [1:34:36, 1:34:40]: Uh today's the fourteenth of June and believe it or not, today is what you call flag day. [1:34:41, 1:34:50]: It commemorates the adoption of the flag of the US, United States of America, what happened on uh fourteenth June, nine uh excuse me, fourteenth June 1777. [1:34:50, 1:34:52]: by resolution of the second congressional [1:34:53, 1:35:00]: uh Continental Congress. So our flag that we salute that we pledged to earlier this evening is two hundred and forty-four years old today. [1:35:00, 1:35:02]: Just wanna let you know that. [1:35:03, 1:35:05]: Uh I attended a um [1:35:05, 1:35:13]: A an activity with the youth council, our Stockbridge Youth Council, a couple of days ago. And it was a it was an activity to honor. [1:35:13, 1:35:19]: the youth council members that are seniors that have graduated or or that graduated high school and move on to college. [1:35:19, 1:35:37]: And those three individuals were Jaden Williams, uh Creighton Carr, and Brittany Brown. All three of those individuals received certificates of completion as members of the Stop at Youth Council, which has obviously been very difficult uh to to do, to do all the things they had to do this year based on the on the pandemic, which we're all living through. [1:35:38, 1:35:42]: Then also Mr. Jaden Williams received a letter of commendation. [1:35:42, 1:35:52]: uh from me in reference to all the things that he has done uh during his uh high school career, Dutch on high school, all the things he's done with NWACP, youth council, things of that nature. [1:35:52, 1:35:56]: So I wanted you to let you know about those three individuals that are moving on to college. [1:35:56, 1:36:00]: And they've been uh they served the the youth council very well. [1:36:00, 1:36:15]: And I if I understand this correctly, our youth council uh is going to be very active this year. I believe they're uh they've got at least 15 applicants, uh additional applicants to join the the the individuals that are on the youth council right now. So that's fantastic. [1:36:15, 1:36:18]: Uh so I look forward to have a great year again. [1:36:19, 1:36:23]: As you well know, the COVID nineteen, the coronavirus is still with us. [1:36:24, 1:36:34]: Uh but things are getting better. Uh things get the hospitalizations are going down, the deaths from the uh this virus are going down. So things are getting better. So we're gonna get to the new normal soon. [1:36:34, 1:36:38]: But vaccinations are still available and people still need to get vaccinated. [1:36:38, 1:36:39]: And you can still get tested. [1:36:40, 1:36:42]: But I would tell you the senior Heritage Senior Center. [1:36:43, 1:36:45]: Uh, which test individuals for COVID nineteen. [1:36:46, 1:36:48]: And it will actually end at the end of the month of June. [1:36:48, 1:37:00]: And there'll be no more testing of COVID-19 at the Heritage Senior Center, uh, effective the uh 30th of June. And so, but you can still do that, citizens, if you if you need to get tested. [1:37:00, 1:37:03]: Yeah, eight hundred you have to set McGarrity Road, ten fifty Florence McGardy Road. [1:37:04, 1:37:06]: And the number to set an appointment is eight hundred. [1:37:07, 1:37:10]: eight four seven four two six two. Once again eight hundred eight four seven. [1:37:11, 1:37:16]: four two six two Monday to Thursday, nine a.m. to three p.m. and Saturdays, nine a.m. to twelve noon. [1:37:16, 1:37:28]: And after that, the only way you can get tested if you want to test you have to go to the public health department uh right here in Madonna and right in Madonna uh to uh set an appointment and to get tested if you want to do that. And also [1:37:28, 1:37:33]: Uh the actual vaccinations that the the county was doing with the public health department. [1:37:33, 1:37:35]: Uh the Lana Motor Speedway has ended. [1:37:36, 1:37:50]: It ended last Tuesday. Now if you want to get uh t uh vaccinated for the COVID-19 uh virus, you can call our once again our public health department, eight hundred-eight four seven four two six two. [1:37:50, 1:37:58]: Okay, that's locally, or you can actually call the uh the toll-free number for the state public health department, which is eight eight eight. [1:37:58, 1:38:10]: four five seven zero one eight six. Once again that's eight eight eight four five seven zero one eight six and that's the the state of Georgia's uh public health department to two seven appointment for vaccination. [1:38:11, 1:38:12]: Anywhere in the state. [1:38:12, 1:38:27]: And of course you can get vaccinated at uh at CVS and Walgreens and certain other doctors' clinics and things of that nature. So still very important, folks. We still we're still in this in this pandemic, uh, but it's getting better for us all, uh, collectively. And so uh [1:38:27, 1:38:30]: I look forward for us to get through this process. [1:38:30, 1:38:34]: If you happen to call the toll the Georgia State uh [1:38:35, 1:38:55]: uh COVID 19 uh line, hotline to set up a vaccination. They will ask you about your demographics, race, ethnicity, gender, and age, any type of medical history that you may have, current past ailments or allergies, whether or not you had any past uh infections or testing and vaccinations, and then your contact information. So just want to let you know we're still [1:38:54, 1:39:03]: Trying to get folks vaccinated, and we still have to be vigilant about this actual virus. It is still among us, but it's we're starting to conquer this thing. [1:39:04, 1:39:04]: Okay. [1:39:05, 1:39:25]: On that note, let me talk about some upcoming announcements and events for the city of Stockbridge. And Friday, June 18th, in observance of Juneteenth, the uh the actual staff, the city staff is off. Um, and we have a day off for that actually. The planning commission meeting is at 6:30 via Zoom on the fourth Thursday of each. [1:39:25, 1:39:36]: month which would be June 24th in this case. A city council work session is 6 p.m. via Zoom, which is the last Tuesday of each month, otherwise or otherwise noted, but that'd be June 29th. [1:39:36, 1:39:41]: Our Main Street Advisory Board meeting at n uh nine AM to noon. It's the second Friday. [1:39:41, 1:39:52]: of each month and that's by Zoom and that's July 9th is the next one they have. The city council meeting uh which will be next month, the second Monday of each month, and that'll be July 12th. [1:39:52, 1:40:00]: The Downtown Development Authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom. And that's uh third Tuesday of each month. And that next one will be July 20th. [1:40:01, 1:40:06]: and you council advisory meeting uh six thirty by way of Zoom, the third Tuesday of each month. [1:40:06, 1:40:08]: And that's also July twentieth. [1:40:08, 1:40:28]: Now and then and then Councilman Afonso Thomas uh has a city event, uh council initiative uh coming up here shortly, and that is called the responders and uh the first responders, these honored first responders, and that uh and he hosts that appreciation luncheon on Wednesday, June 23rd at the Merrill Master's Comp Merrill Maners Conference Center. [1:40:28, 1:40:39]: and Clark Park at 12 noon. And it's going to be a drive-thru, drive-by in a sense. And of course, uh in uh in celebration for uh Juneteenth. [1:40:40, 1:41:00]: uh the city uh has a um has an actual celebration to honor juneteenth and give information about that and celebrate that incense. And now Juneteenth is also known as Freedom Day, Jubilee Day, Liberation Day, and Emancipation Day. And uh obviously it's a holiday sele celebrating the emancipation [1:41:00, 1:41:11]: of those who have been enslaved in the US, which originated uh originated in Galvison, Texas, which was two and a half years after President Lincoln and actually signed the Emancipation Proclamation. [1:41:12, 1:41:13]: And so um [1:41:14, 1:41:18]: Now what's happening is in the country, forty seven states in Washington D C celebrate. [1:41:18, 1:41:28]: Juneteenth annually, um in this aspect. And uh but it was actually a union general uh by the name of um [1:41:28, 1:41:29]: Gordon Granger [1:41:30, 1:41:45]: uh that proclaimed uh freedom from slavery in a Texas and slaves that were in Texas. And uh once again it happened on Monday, June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, once again two and a half years after President Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation. [1:41:45, 1:41:53]: Now for this um the city of Stockbridge, um we are having a an activity on the 17th of uh [1:41:53, 1:41:55]: of uh this month. [1:41:55, 1:42:00]: And uh in reference at Merle Manor's Conference Center, five thirty to eight PM. [1:42:00, 1:42:06]: It's a drive-thru uh activity. It'd be gift bags and and uh a Juneteenth uh t-shirt it'd be issued out. [1:42:07, 1:42:08]: The council will be there as well. [1:42:09, 1:42:29]: And uh be some other activities happening uh during that time frame, during that uh couple hour time frame on the 17th. Uh now the city has other things going on as well. Uh so the on the um the 14th, which is today, to the 19th, we have several participating restaurants in the area. [1:42:29, 1:42:45]: which will be offering Juneteenth specials. And you would have to actually go to the uh website, the Stobbers website, to find out uh the actual uh restaurants and what is actually gonna be the specials they're actually offering. But I have a list of those restaurants right here though for you. [1:42:46, 1:42:50]: That it honors those specials from the fourteenth to the nineteenth. This is it. [1:42:50, 1:42:51]: El granero. [1:42:52, 1:42:53]: Tony's Pizza. [1:42:54, 1:42:55]: Italian oven. [1:42:55, 1:42:58]: Jen Fish Fry, Mrs. Winners, [1:42:59, 1:43:01]: Silver Bay seafood. [1:43:01, 1:43:07]: Country Cooking Depot, Sarah's Country Cooking, and Silver Sands Jamaican Cuisine. [1:43:08, 1:43:18]: Okay, all those restaurants will be offering specials, Juneteenth specials for this week. Uh so you'll have to go to the website to find or even go to the restaurant and [1:43:18, 1:43:27]: and uh find out what those specials are and and and take part in that to help us uh celebrate the uh juneteenth and Saspate. And let me do this one more time just in case. This is it. [1:43:27, 1:43:28]: El granero. [1:43:28, 1:43:29]: Tony's Pizza. [1:43:30, 1:43:41]: Italian Oven, Gen Fish Fry, Mrs. Winters, Silver Bay Seafood, Country Cooking Depot, Sarah's Country Cooking, and Silver Sands Jamaican Cuisine. [1:43:41, 1:43:51]: Okay. And also from the twentieth to the twenty sixth on social media, uh the the uh actually city our our uh social media expert, I guess, or uh [1:43:51, 1:44:10]: a social media guru, I would say, for the sort of city, right? And once you send in photo gallery uh post and families taking pictures at the particular restaurants, selfies, and participating uh that you went to these restaurants wearing the particular t-shirts and uh and also send those in so you can put them on our social media for the for the um [1:44:10, 1:44:30]: uh a public affairs uh officer would do this uh for the city. And then of course each and every day, I believe starting today actually, uh there'll be educational engagement type of information about the meeting on Juneteenth to help educate the uh the citizens on what it means and what how it came about and uh just to make sure that you're well aware of what you're celebrating for. And again [1:44:30, 1:44:32]: give you some information about that as well. [1:44:33, 1:44:36]: I believe on that note is all that I have for any type of announcements or information. [1:44:37, 1:44:39]: And it's my understanding based on yes, ma'am. [1:44:40, 1:44:48]: I have a council initiative I wanted to um for you to announce. Go right here. I'm sorry about that. I I've uh that's stand by go ahead please. [1:44:49, 1:44:54]: Um, I'll be doing a uh council initiative over at Clark Park on the twenty second. [1:44:55, 1:45:05]: um a let's get back to normal. I would like to thank the Eagles Landing Longevity Center, Dr. Sylvain, as well as the Mercy. [1:45:05, 1:45:18]: um group, mercy care group. Um they both will be in attendance. One will be giving out COVID vaccine vaccines and the other will be signing up children for free health care. [1:45:19, 1:45:27]: Um, so I'm excited about that. We'll have music and food trucks and I hope that the public will attend and free ice cream. [1:45:28, 1:45:35]: Absolutely. Thank you very much. Mirapo Tim, sir. Go ahead. Yeah, I just wanted to uh say really quick, uh Walgreens will be having a [1:45:36, 1:45:39]: Uh vaccination pop-up clinic at Mount Olive tomorrow. [1:45:40, 1:45:41]: From ten to two. [1:45:41, 1:45:51]: They're going to have all three vaccines and they're encouraging people 12 yeah it's 12 and over to come out and get vaccinated on tomorrow at Mount Island Baptist Church. [1:45:52, 1:46:12]: You know, thank you for that. That's a good point. Uh what it amounts to, the the the public health department is working with the a nonprofit called CORE, uh, which is uh which goes around in with churches or try to serve uh some unserved communities or or try to communicate and educate people that are apprehensive about taking uh taking uh the vaccination. So [1:46:12, 1:46:26]: If uh so what we can do is that what we can communicate with the public health department, work with core and get activities such as what uh Mayor Potan mentioned about the the Mount Olive uh church or other churches in the area, other or other organizations that uh help out on this. So [1:46:26, 1:46:34]: On that note, uh, we have one item I believe we need to talk about at least one item in the executive session in reference to the council of aging. So I need a [1:46:34, 1:46:36]: A motion to go into executive session, please. [1:46:38, 1:46:43]: So I moved. I moved that we're going to executive session for real estate personnel and litigation. [1:46:43, 1:46:49]: Thank you, Ma uh Ms. Gatt. Uh Mr. Blount, second that all in favor, please indicate. [1:46:50, 1:46:50]: Aye. [1:46:51, 1:46:51]: Okay. [1:46:52, 1:47:03]: I appreciate it. All right. See you in a few minutes. Uh I guess uh Quentin, you'll be ready to talk to us about that, sir, or lead us down that road. And Vanessa, if you send us a separate link to go into Zego session, please. Folks, I'll see you shortly. [1:47:04, 1:47:04]: Yeah. [1:47:05, 1:47:05]: Thank you. [1:47:07, 1:47:08]: We are back. [1:47:10, 1:47:10]: Okay. [1:47:11, 1:47:13]: Let's see what we got a moha. [1:47:14, 1:47:15]: We've got a quorum yet. [1:47:16, 1:47:18]: Okay, come on folks, still need to get in. [1:47:40, 1:47:45]: Okay, we're back live with a webinar on Facebook once again. [1:47:49, 1:47:50]: Still missing a couple of folks though. [1:48:13, 1:48:14]: Okay. [1:48:15, 1:48:24]: I tell you what, uh we have a quorum and I'm going to uh ask this. Council, I need a motion to end the second session, please. So move. There's a second. [1:48:25, 1:48:26]: A second. [1:48:26, 1:48:29]: Good. Councilman Barber second that. All in favor, please indicate. [1:48:30, 1:48:30]: Mm. [1:48:31, 1:48:33]: Okay. Appreciate it. Uh [1:48:34, 1:48:37]: Everybody everybody voted for it except for uh Blount, who's not back yet. [1:48:38, 1:48:44]: All right. So he's still missing. But anyway, uh now I'm needing a motion to reconvene our council meeting, please. [1:48:44, 1:48:45]: Oh. [1:48:45, 1:48:45]: Okay. [1:48:46, 1:48:46]: So a second. [1:48:47, 1:48:47]: I second. [1:48:48, 1:48:49]: Okay, Ms. Cat second that. [1:48:50, 1:48:51]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [1:48:53, 1:48:53]: Uh. [1:48:54, 1:48:54]: Okay. [1:48:55, 1:49:04]: All right. All right, from the executive session we have something we need to bring forward and I believe that is going to be initially mentioned by Mr. Washington. [1:49:08, 1:49:10]: Mr. Washington. [1:49:12, 1:49:13]: I apologize, man, for [1:49:14, 1:49:15]: I think. [1:49:15, 1:49:17]: The council has moved to [1:49:17, 1:49:27]: appoint one person to the council and aging for the city of Stockbridge. And if you all if you want to go ahead and release the name, you can release it and they will be able to vote for it. [1:49:28, 1:49:29]: And this person will be on the [1:49:30, 1:49:30]: Council. [1:49:30, 1:49:32]: And the name of the individual? [1:49:32, 1:49:34]: Miss Dorita Barber. [1:49:34, 1:49:37]: Okay. Slow move. Okay. [1:49:38, 1:49:40]: Miss Gantt second that okay. [1:49:40, 1:49:42]: All in favor, please indicate. [1:49:43, 1:49:45]: Okay, opposed? [1:49:46, 1:49:46]: Abstain. [1:49:47, 1:49:48]: I I'm sorry. [1:49:49, 1:49:52]: I I I I accept. [1:49:52, 1:50:02]: Well okay, all all accept. Okay, I have three. All accept. Let's do it again. All accept the Miss Barber. Okay. Okay. I got I got three. All polls. [1:50:02, 1:50:03]: Abstain. [1:50:04, 1:50:07]: I'd say and I want it for the record. [1:50:07, 1:50:07]: Um [1:50:08, 1:50:11]: I'm abstaining because her last name is Barber. [1:50:11, 1:50:20]: For the record, there is no relations. Um, I don't know this individual, or at least I've I don't think I've ever met her, if I have. [1:50:20, 1:50:22]: I don't recall, but I'm abstaining for that reason. [1:50:23, 1:50:24]: Three zero one. [1:50:24, 1:50:25]: On that note [1:50:26, 1:50:30]: Is there a motion to end our council meeting for this evening? Oh boo. [1:50:30, 1:50:31]: Is there a second? [1:50:32, 1:50:35]: I second. Ms. Ganttz second that again. [1:50:35, 1:50:36]: All three please indicate. [1:50:37, 1:50:37]: Aye. [1:50:38, 1:50:41]: Good night, everybody. Have a good night. Good night. Good night. [1:50:41, 1:50:42]: Oh my. [1:50:42, 1:50:44]: Bye bye. God bless ya.
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    --- title: May 25 2021 Work Session Meeting Via Zoom date: 2021-05-25 source: 2021-05-25_May_25_2021_Work_Session_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:06, 0:00:07]: Good evening, everybody. [0:00:09, 0:00:11]: Good evening. Uh good evening as well. [0:00:11, 0:00:12]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:00:13, 0:00:14]: Good to see you. [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: Evening, uh Mayor Pro Tem. [0:00:53, 0:00:53]: I don't. [0:00:55, 0:00:55]: Mm. [0:00:55, 0:00:57]: Good evening, sir. How are you doing? [0:00:58, 0:00:58]: Right. [0:01:20, 0:01:20]: Okay. [0:01:27, 0:01:28]: Hmm. [0:01:36, 0:01:40]: [106.7, 107.7]: How do you do Mr. Nighton? [0:01:50, 0:01:54]: Mayor Ford, Council members and guests. [0:01:55, 0:01:56]: Good evening. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: Good evening, sir. [0:02:25, 0:02:27]: Hot out there today. It's hot out there today. [0:02:30, 0:02:34]: It was really hot out during the food drive at ninety degrees. Boy, we made it though. [0:02:35, 0:02:36]: Good deal. [0:02:38, 0:02:41]: Yes. Summer is upon us. [0:02:42, 0:02:43]: Yes, it is. [0:02:55, 0:02:57]: Castleman Blount, uh evening to you. [0:03:01, 0:03:02]: [198.9, 199.6]: So it's not. [0:03:20, 0:03:22]: Good evening, everybody. This is Michelle Battle. [0:03:22, 0:03:24]: Good evening, Michelle. [0:03:24, 0:03:27]: I'm not gonna be on camera'cause I am uh [0:03:27, 0:03:31]: actually driving back from Ohio. So wow. [0:03:31, 0:03:32]: Mm-hmm. [0:03:33, 0:03:34]: We'll be safe. [0:03:34, 0:03:39]: Same trip. I'm actually just about home, but I don't wanna uh I wanna scare anybody. [0:03:41, 0:03:42]: Okay. [0:03:45, 0:03:48]: And Councilman Gantt, uh woman Gantt, how you doing? [0:03:49, 0:03:51]: I'm good, man. How are you? [0:03:51, 0:03:51]: Alrighty. [0:03:53, 0:03:54]: All right. [0:04:02, 0:04:03]: Vanessa's online. [0:04:07, 0:04:08]: Good evening. [0:04:08, 0:04:09]: Evening to [0:04:12, 0:04:13]: Councilman Thomas, how you doing, sir? [0:04:19, 0:04:33]: Uh rushing, rushing trying to get here before the start, but uh seemed like I made it on time. Yeah, you did, sir. Now I've I tried to I called you, sir, and I wanted to ask you. Now I know this is late, late message, but want to ask you whether or not you'd be willing to give the invocation this evening. [0:04:38, 0:04:39]: You you muted, sir. [0:04:40, 0:04:44]: For me? Yeah, no councilman uh Thomas. I'm talking Councilman Thomas. [0:04:44, 0:04:53]: I'm a little rushed. Uh, you know, it's always a good time to pray. I I I'll do my best. All right. I appreciate that, sir. Thank you very much. And on that note, we have a full council. [0:04:54, 0:04:56]: Uh so I have actually six o'clock. [0:04:56, 0:04:59]: So I like to call this uh council work session to order. [0:05:00, 0:05:04]: And uh this is Tuesday, uh May 25th. [0:05:04, 0:05:09]: And on that note, Councilman Thomas, I appreciate it if you can give the invocation for us. [0:05:10, 0:05:11]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:05:12, 0:05:24]: Like to just also just thank all of our citizens and everyone that is tuning in. We ask that you uh pray with us. Uh we, you know, we always need prayer. [0:05:24, 0:05:28]: Um, you know, we're still facing all of the challenges here. [0:05:29, 0:05:30]: Uh in life. [0:05:30, 0:05:35]: So we just ask that you uh be about praying for all of us. [0:05:36, 0:05:39]: With that being said, let us pray. [0:05:40, 0:05:42]: O Heavenly Father [0:05:42, 0:05:50]: We thank you for this day and we thank you for the many blessings you bestow upon each and everyone's every day. [0:05:51, 0:05:55]: We ask that you lift up all those who are facing. [0:05:55, 0:05:57]: uh challenges in life. [0:05:58, 0:06:01]: We ask that you be with them. We ask that you give them hope. [0:06:01, 0:06:04]: And give them courage they need to [0:06:04, 0:06:06]: Face every day, Father. [0:06:07, 0:06:13]: Uh we ask that you surround them with peace, love, and happiness and your mercy. [0:06:13, 0:06:17]: Uh we ask that you be with this city council. [0:06:17, 0:06:20]: Uh be with us to do. [0:06:21, 0:06:22]: The citizen's business. [0:06:23, 0:06:43]: uh to remove our own self-agenda, Father. Uh help us to move forward with the agenda for this municipality and for all citizens, O Heavenly Father. And we just thank you, Father. We just thank you for your mercy. We thank you for your grace. And we just ask that you be with us and bless all of us, Father. And let us [0:06:43, 0:06:49]: all be as one to move this city forward. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:06:49, 0:06:53]: Amen. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Can we please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: Well. [0:06:57, 0:07:02]: I pledge allegiance to the United States of America. [0:07:03, 0:07:04]: Yeah. [0:07:05, 0:07:07]: But we're just standing. One nation. [0:07:08, 0:07:09]: Undergo. [0:07:09, 0:07:14]: [438.7, 440.2]: Madam Clerk. [0:07:25, 0:07:26]: Mayor Ford. [0:07:26, 0:07:27]: Present. [0:07:27, 0:07:29]: May approach him, Alexander. [0:07:29, 0:07:29]: Present. [0:07:30, 0:07:31]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:07:31, 0:07:31]: Exactly. [0:07:32, 0:07:33]: Councilman Blount. [0:07:33, 0:07:34]: Present. [0:07:34, 0:07:35]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:07:36, 0:07:38]: Present. Councilman Thomas. [0:07:39, 0:07:39]: Present. [0:07:40, 0:07:41]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:07:41, 0:07:45]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate it. Council, I now need a motion to adopt agenda, please. [0:07:48, 0:07:52]: So m so move. Some right. Uh thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Is there a second? [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: Is there is there a second? [0:07:57, 0:08:02]: Ms. Barber, Councilwoman Barber seconds that all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:08:03, 0:08:16]: Thank you very much. Um we have two uh motion uh two agendas here. Review the minutes from our council meeting on April twelfth and also the council work seven uh session on April twenty-seventh. [0:08:17, 0:08:28]: And at our next council meeting will approve those minutes. If there are any changes or alterations or changes there, please submit that to the clerk for revision if that's the case. On that note, uh [0:08:28, 0:08:33]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? We do. We have one public comment this evening. [0:08:33, 0:08:34]: Okay, go write it, please. [0:08:35, 0:08:40]: Um this comment is from Ron Shaw, 535, Gable Court. [0:08:41, 0:08:49]: I am excited about the direction that the city of Stockbridge is going now. All citizens of Stockbridge have a voice now. [0:08:49, 0:08:55]: Thank you for bringing new jobs to the south side of Atlanta with all the new projects around the county. [0:08:56, 0:09:01]: The city council members have done a great job and I would like to thank them all for their hard work. [0:09:01, 0:09:02]: Еспешли [0:09:03, 0:09:06]: Mr. Alexander, your community is proud of you. [0:09:07, 0:09:08]: There are no further comments. [0:09:08, 0:09:12]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Uh Old Business Council. [0:09:13, 0:09:26]: Council consideration to approve the development agreement to complete the requirements for rezoning case number OR03-15 for the property located 438 East Atlanta Road and Stockbridge, of course. [0:09:26, 0:09:28]: Mr. Knighton and Becca Johnson, please. [0:09:32, 0:09:36]: Yes, Mayor, you this item of course was heard at the previous meeting. [0:09:36, 0:09:39]: And at that time the council wanted to [0:09:39, 0:09:44]: uh go back and or the council via the comments that were made wanted to ensure that [0:09:44, 0:09:46]: Some of the uh current [0:09:47, 0:09:48]: uh standards were put in place. [0:09:48, 0:09:56]: with respect to or at least addressed with respect to this particular development that was originally approved in the early two thousands. [0:09:56, 0:10:02]: And so with that, uh there have been uh discussions with uh the applicant, with our attorneys, with [0:10:03, 0:10:07]: Community development director um as well to bring this to a place. [0:10:08, 0:10:13]: That can be mutually agreed upon via the applicant and via the staff. [0:10:13, 0:10:15]: It's being presented to you, council. [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: For your consideration. [0:10:17, 0:10:21]: I'll let Ms. Johnson um kind of walk through um [0:10:21, 0:10:27]: any particular uh technical matters with respect to it and and any additional conditions that are part of this proposal. [0:10:29, 0:10:30]: Okay. [0:10:31, 0:10:35]: Thank you, Mr. Knighton. Um Mayor Ford, Council members and [0:10:35, 0:10:47]: Colleagues and residents, so um what we did as a result of the conversation among the board at our last meeting on the 10th is go back, look at the requirements for the overlay district. [0:10:48, 0:11:04]: Make sure we included those items. The specifics were for sidewalk width. We wanted to have a 10-foot-wide sidewalk that was added for the external portions of the property and then a four-foot fent, a four-foot-wide. [0:11:04, 0:11:07]: um sidewalk internally throughout the site. [0:11:07, 0:11:08]: Uh another [0:11:09, 0:11:11]: I don't know if I'm going to the road with. [0:11:11, 0:11:14]: So we worked with our fire marshal to ensure that we were in [0:11:14, 0:11:22]: compliant with our international fire codes to ensure that we met the minimum requirement for those. [0:11:22, 0:11:28]: Um some other things you all um may see in the updated changes is that because [0:11:30, 0:11:32]: Thank you. [0:11:34, 0:11:34]: Okay. [0:11:35, 0:11:35]: Yeah. [0:11:37, 0:11:38]: Um [0:11:39, 0:11:45]: a discreping first half um the developer would will adhere to uh detailed site plan. [0:11:45, 0:11:51]: and um the highway overlay district to ensure that all of those requirements are met. [0:11:51, 0:11:52]: Um that's kind of the [0:11:53, 0:11:53]: Don [0:11:54, 0:11:55]: No. [0:11:55, 0:11:55]: But [0:11:56, 0:11:56]: Well [0:11:57, 0:12:01]: Long and short of it. Um if there are any questions I'd be more than happy to uh [0:12:02, 0:12:05]: Well, Becca, I want to know that you were fading in and out a little bit there, Ms. Johnson. [0:12:06, 0:12:15]: Uh but hopefully uh we got to just of that, but we'll see. Council, any questions uh that you have for Ms. Johnson and and uh anything you need to clear up? Anyone? [0:12:16, 0:12:17]: Mayor Protein, go ahead, please. [0:12:17, 0:12:23]: Yeah. Um in terms of uh the sidewalks, we want we had asked for sidewalks on both sides of the street. [0:12:24, 0:12:27]: Uh we would just want to make sure that that language is spelled out. [0:12:27, 0:12:30]: uh in its entirety. You mentioned uh the multi use path. [0:12:31, 0:12:35]: along uh east Atlanta Road. Um I think um they had agreed to do that. [0:12:35, 0:12:36]: And um [0:12:37, 0:12:39]: I think we had uh asked the applicant. [0:12:39, 0:12:43]: Uh of course we couldn't require it and they were gonna check [0:12:43, 0:12:44]: Uh, I think Miss uh [0:12:47, 0:12:53]: Miss Battle was gonna check with Miss Battle was gonna check with the applicant about uh possibly making it gated. [0:12:55, 0:12:55]: Um [0:12:56, 0:13:00]: This is Michelle Battle with Battle Law, one West Court Square, Decatur, Georgia, three zero. [0:13:01, 0:13:13]: Uh 030. We have gated the community. Um it will be gated um as requested and we put that in the conditions and it's on the site plan. Outstanding. [0:13:15, 0:13:21]: Okay, any other questions from the council at all? What about the sidewalks on both sides of the street? [0:13:21, 0:13:27]: Was that um the sidewalks internally the sidewalks will be on uh both sides of the street, yes. Awesome. [0:13:27, 0:13:27]: Thank you. [0:13:30, 0:13:32]: Any other questions, Council? [0:13:32, 0:13:33]: Yeah. [0:13:33, 0:13:34]: Yes, sir. [0:13:34, 0:13:37]: I'll go ahead and make a recommendation to approve. [0:13:37, 0:13:38]: Uh the [0:13:39, 0:13:42]: Staff recommendation uh for this project. [0:13:42, 0:13:44]: uh to move forward with the conditions outlined. [0:13:45, 0:13:46]: All right, here a second. [0:13:46, 0:13:49]: Ms. Barber Second then. Okay. Any further discussion? [0:13:50, 0:13:52]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:13:53, 0:13:55]: It's a nano decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [0:13:56, 0:13:57]: All right, new business. [0:13:58, 0:14:03]: Council consideration to amend the twenty twenty one meeting schedule. [0:14:03, 0:14:04]: Miss Holiday, please. [0:14:04, 0:14:13]: Thank you, Mayor Council. This item was kind of a housekeeping item based on the GMA conference scheduled in Savannah. [0:14:13, 0:14:15]: And with covet. [0:14:16, 0:14:22]: Um well the city council first of all approved the twenty twenty-one meeting schedule back in twenty twenty. [0:14:22, 0:14:28]: And GMA has revised their annual conference. [0:14:28, 0:14:30]: And we changed the meeting date. [0:14:31, 0:14:32]: In June [0:14:33, 0:14:34]: Where the original [0:14:34, 0:14:40]: GMA conference was set for June. So we changed our meeting date that's normally held on the last Tuesday of the month. [0:14:40, 0:14:43]: and moved it from June twenty ninth to june thirtieth. [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: That Wednesday. [0:14:45, 0:14:50]: And um now with GMA moving the conference to August. [0:14:50, 0:14:52]: It actually [0:14:52, 0:14:56]: falls on the same day that the city council is scheduled to have their [0:14:57, 0:15:01]: Council meeting on the second Monday of the month in August on August ninth. [0:15:02, 0:15:07]: So I just needed to know so that we can advertise uh to the public if [0:15:07, 0:15:08]: How we want to [0:15:08, 0:15:10]: Hold those meetings. [0:15:10, 0:15:12]: In both June and August. [0:15:14, 0:15:34]: Well, thank you, Vanessa. Let me mention this to um to the council. Everybody, that I was on a uh a Zoom call, listening to a call today on COVID-19. It's a weekly update that GMA has. And the president uh Vince Williams mentioned that we will be having the GMA conference August 6th to August 10th. It will occur. [0:15:34, 0:15:42]: They're gonna plan for that. And so um it's gonna be a go. Now things are as you well know, things in our society are moving that way to [0:15:43, 0:15:47]: free up uh operations and meetings and things of that nature. Now it may very well be that [0:15:48, 0:16:02]: come August that you may still want to wear masks if you want to, but I don't know what the what the parameters for that will be. But they still they said they're going to be a go on the having the conference then. So I guess that we just need to decide which option we want as outlined in in uh the presentation here. [0:16:03, 0:16:05]: Any c any other comments, Council? [0:16:07, 0:16:08]: A mayor. [0:16:08, 0:16:09]: Yes, sir. [0:16:09, 0:16:20]: I would say uh next month's meeting, uh the public is accustomed to us having the meetings on Tuesday on two on the last Tuesday of the month. So for consistency, I would say [0:16:20, 0:16:22]: Next month's meeting. [0:16:22, 0:16:27]: Uh move it back to Tuesday uh to the Tuesday. That's the second meeting, right, Miss Holliday? Correct. [0:16:27, 0:16:33]: So you know, the public is used used to seeing that second m that second meeting on the last Tuesday. [0:16:33, 0:16:38]: So I think that would make make it consistent so nobody looking and missed the meeting on the wrong date. [0:16:39, 0:16:41]: Uh uh uh obviously August would be a different date. [0:16:42, 0:16:49]: And it will uh move us. We'll have to make some adjustments there, but I certainly would support moving next month to Tuesday as for consistency. [0:16:51, 0:16:55]: Well that eliminates option number three. So then um [0:16:55, 0:16:58]: We would be looking at one or two for the the August meeting. [0:16:59, 0:17:05]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, sir, please. Uh Madam Clerk, would you read um for everyone uh option one? [0:17:06, 0:17:12]: I would option one is to reschedule the meeting um that's currently scheduled for Wednesday, June 30th. [0:17:13, 0:17:15]: To Tuesday, June twenty ninth. [0:17:16, 0:17:19]: Uh twenty twenty one, as just mentioned by Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:17:19, 0:17:23]: And to reschedule the meeting for Monday, August ninth. [0:17:23, 0:17:26]: to Monday, which will be the following Monday, August sixteenth. [0:17:28, 0:17:29]: Well nah uh [0:17:29, 0:17:35]: You did provide the information, but just for those that are listening in, um [0:17:35, 0:17:55]: Would you share uh option three? So whatever decision we make tonight, uh they will be informed or could you speak to the difference uh in one and three? Okay, so uh option three would be to have no changes um to the meeting date and when on Wednesday, June 30th. [0:17:55, 0:17:57]: And to reschedule the meeting. [0:17:57, 0:18:00]: on Monday, August ninth to August sixteenth. [0:18:00, 0:18:04]: Option number two is to reschedule the Wednesday meeting. [0:18:06, 0:18:08]: uh June thirtieth and move it to [0:18:08, 0:18:13]: Tuesday, June twenty ninth, as has been recommended, but to also cancel [0:18:13, 0:18:14]: The [0:18:14, 0:18:18]: Monday meeting, August ninth. So the difference between [0:18:18, 0:18:21]: One and two is to have the Monday meeting out. [0:18:21, 0:18:24]: Um, but just move it to a different day the following week. [0:18:25, 0:18:27]: Option two is to cancel it altogether. [0:18:27, 0:18:33]: And option three is to make no changes to the June meeting and reschedule the August meeting. [0:18:35, 0:18:35]: Uh [0:18:38, 0:18:49]: Uh okay. Councilman Thomason, you die? Well, I I was gonna say I would consider one, but I yield to I see some hands. I'll just yield before the motion is made. Okay, Councilman Barber, you you're next. Go ahead, please. [0:18:50, 0:18:55]: No, I'll wait till the rest of the questions. I was just gonna motion as well. So Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:18:55, 0:19:08]: Yeah, Mayor, I would I would recommend that if we need to council that meeting uh at the first of August, that we just council the meeting and we have that meeting at the last Tuesday, the end of the month. And if it's something pending, [0:19:08, 0:19:16]: Uh after that, if the uh prior to that, this council is amenable to it since we're still doing Zoom. If there's a special call meeting with something that's uh [0:19:17, 0:19:37]: pending and needs uh attention to then we sp do do a special call meeting uh in between that time but uh to throw off the schedule i agree that we don't either we cancel the meeting because if we don't when we start flip-flopping next thing you know we're gonna have one meeting then another meeting the next week and I don't think that uh that's warranted right now. So I was [0:19:37, 0:19:47]: Say we're just counseling the meeting if we need to do something pending. We do a special call meeting prior to that last meeting in August and just stick with the last Tuesday in August to uh have that meeting. That's my recommendations. [0:19:48, 0:19:58]: Mayor. Yeah. Yes, ma'am. Councilman Blount, does that mean you're in favor of op option number two with also moving the June meeting work session back to Tuesday? [0:20:00, 0:20:20]: If if if it's to keep the schedule that we are on, I think that same rule would still apply. Okay. If we keep the days that we have and if there's something pending, then we do a special call meeting or whatever day we need to do that. Other than that, I I I agree that we we definitely want to kind of keep the same schedule that the citizens are used to. I'd rather for us to council meeting. [0:20:20, 0:20:27]: meeting, if nothing's pending and call a special call meeting if it is, versus us to continue to move these days around. [0:20:28, 0:20:28]: Got it. [0:20:29, 0:20:35]: Councilman Blount, we always have something probably p pending though, I will tell you. But uh we'll we'll see how this shakes out. [0:20:35, 0:20:38]: But Councilman uh Gantt, Councilman Gantt, please. [0:20:40, 0:20:41]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [0:20:41, 0:20:47]: I could go either way. Um it does make sense if if we're having uh [0:20:48, 0:20:51]: in August we pushed that meeting back. [0:20:51, 0:21:01]: one week, then the following week after that we're had we're back at a work session. So we'll be meeting two weeks in a row back to the back. Um I think that's the way it looked. I I kind of [0:21:01, 0:21:06]: Lightwick Councilman Blount said, um, but I'm fine either way. [0:21:06, 0:21:07]: Um [0:21:08, 0:21:18]: I'm fine either way. I think we keep that June meeting though, definitely on schedule as is. And then for for August, I'm okay with [0:21:18, 0:21:20]: Um have a special coffee needed. [0:21:21, 0:21:28]: But if we don't, then I'm okay with having it the following week. The only concern I have with that is the following week after that, we're back in another meeting. [0:21:30, 0:21:31]: Okay. [0:21:31, 0:21:35]: So I guess I would prefer probably to [0:21:35, 0:21:38]: just you know if we needed a meeting we would call it. [0:21:39, 0:21:40]: for that following Monday. [0:21:40, 0:21:47]: Councilman Thomas, please go ahead. I was gonna ask Mr. Knighton uh if we council a meeting. [0:21:47, 0:21:58]: How would that um stack up as far as things that we need to um litigate uh if we counsel, if he can sort of just speak to that somewhat? [0:21:59, 0:22:06]: Yes, sir, Councilman Thomas. Generally, as you know, um we have an ambitious council uh to move the city forward. Therefore, generally we do have [0:22:07, 0:22:10]: items that come up on the on the agenda uh frequently. [0:22:10, 0:22:16]: The one clarification I do want to make here in understanding is because of the way the calendar falls. [0:22:16, 0:22:21]: If the the s the meeting in August were moved to August sixteenth. [0:22:21, 0:22:27]: The work session would not be until August thirty first. So there would still be a two week gap. [0:22:28, 0:22:29]: Between the sixteen [0:22:30, 0:22:32]: The council meeting, even though it's moved to the sixteenth. [0:22:33, 0:22:36]: then the work session would be on the thirty first. That's just kind of a quirk in the schedule. [0:22:37, 0:22:40]: the way it works out. So there would be a two week gap in between there. [0:22:42, 0:22:48]: Then I would imagine there'll be another two week gap between that meeting and the red council meeting in uh September. [0:22:49, 0:22:50]: I would think it's for another two weeks. [0:22:52, 0:22:54]: Yes, it would be September fourteenth. [0:22:54, 0:22:56]: Right. So it's another two week gap. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: Okay. [0:22:58, 0:23:10]: You know, for the same thing. I'm not sure which option that is, but that's seemed to be the one that's doable. I I don't know if that one meets uh Councilman Blount's. [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: Um indication I I'm not sure. [0:23:13, 0:23:19]: No, I'm fine with that because it it it keeps us on uh it keeps us on a Monday and a uh [0:23:19, 0:23:37]: Tuesday. It just won't be the first uh Monday of the month. It'll be the uh look like the third Monday of the month on August sixteenth is the third Monday, and then we'll have a meeting on that uh last Tuesday. So that's the only change. It changes the Monday. It changes it to the third Monday of the month instead of the [0:23:38, 0:23:52]: Well mayor Yeah go right here sir I I'll I'll be willing to make that motion. Um I'm not sure madam clerk which option that is, but that's option one. Okay, I I move that uh we accept option one. [0:23:52, 0:23:54]: for the uh meeting schedule. [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: Sir a second. [0:23:56, 0:23:57]: A second. [0:23:57, 0:23:59]: Ms. Okay, Mr. Gantt, second that okay. [0:24:00, 0:24:01]: Uh all in favor, please indicate. [0:24:03, 0:24:04]: Okay, unanimous decision. [0:24:04, 0:24:13]: Thank you. Thank yeah, thank you very much. Now food for thought, Council. Do you have you have any idea when you think we may be meeting in person? Food for thought. We could eventually we'll do that. [0:24:14, 0:24:16]: I don't know how soon you want to do that, but eventually that'll happen. [0:24:17, 0:24:17]: All right. [0:24:19, 0:24:20]: More to follow. [0:24:20, 0:24:30]: Council consideration approved site engineering to replace 36 inch CMP culverts on Hudson Bridge Road in the amount of$129,225. [0:24:31, 0:24:35]: Funding source, stormwater fund balance. Mr. Aaron, please. [0:24:35, 0:24:43]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. During a stormwater inspection, staff found a cobalt under Hudson Bridge Drive that had rusted out. [0:24:44, 0:24:50]: And so this is a subdivision with the one way in and one way out. There's no other entrance or exit. [0:24:51, 0:24:56]: And so staff want to move forward with replacing this pipe before it becomes hazardous. [0:24:57, 0:25:11]: Okay. Thank you for that. Any questions for Mr. Aaron Council? Mary Portam Alazana, go ahead, please. Well, where is is this the uh town home community? What subdivision what is this? What's this subdivision behind the town home development? [0:25:12, 0:25:19]: Is that why the sidewalk is like the or that indention is out front? Is that what what the issue is? I know this the sidewalk look like it. [0:25:19, 0:25:23]: Or that uh the between the sidewalk and the curving looked like it was compromised. [0:25:24, 0:25:24]: Yes, sir. [0:25:25, 0:25:31]: Okay, thank um I know we had talked about. Okay. Well good. It's good to see uh that that is moving forward. [0:25:32, 0:25:34]: Any other questions, Council for Mr. Aaron? [0:25:36, 0:25:39]: Okay, seeing none, I need a motion to accept his proposal. [0:25:41, 0:25:44]: So moved. Okay. Ms. Gantt, is there a second? [0:25:45, 0:25:45]: Perfect. [0:25:46, 0:25:48]: Miss Barber seconds that okay for the discussion? [0:25:49, 0:25:51]: And if not all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:25:52, 0:25:55]: Okay, unanimous decision. Appreciate that. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mayor and Council. [0:25:56, 0:25:56]: Thank you. [0:25:57, 0:26:05]: Council consideration to approve RFP request for proposal number 2020 zero zero two seven p [0:26:05, 0:26:11]: National Auto Fleet Group source well contract number one two zero seven one six [0:26:11, 0:26:20]: NAF in the amount of eighty-seven thousand nine hundred three dollars and ninety cents for one stormwater vehicle in the amount of twenty-nine thousand. [0:26:20, 0:26:23]: three oh one and thirty cents. [0:26:23, 0:26:28]: one water department vehicle in the amount of twenty nine thousand three hundred one and thirty cents. [0:26:29, 0:26:44]: and one code enforcement vehicle in amount of 29,301 and 30 cents funding source, stormwater, water code enforcement uh department budgets. And this is going to be presented by Ms. Miller and Miss Johnson, please. [0:26:51, 0:26:55]: Miss uh Miller, you are you're muted. If you're talking, you're muted, ma'am. [0:26:56, 0:26:58]: Hi. How are you doing? [0:26:59, 0:27:00]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. [0:27:01, 0:27:09]: Um, I do hope everyone's well. The procurement division is requesting council approval to piggyback and award a contract to 72 hour LLC. [0:27:10, 0:27:15]: uh DBA National Auto Fleet under the uh NJPA better known as Sourcewell. [0:27:16, 0:27:21]: Um as stated, the contract number for a source well is one two oh seven one six NAF uh for the record. [0:27:21, 0:27:33]: uh for vehicles, cars, um, and light trucks with related equipment accessories and services for an overall cost of eighty-seven thousand nine hundred three dollars and ninety and ninety cents. [0:27:35, 0:27:38]: Okay, any questions, uh counsel for Miss Miller? [0:27:38, 0:27:40]: At all. Um Councilman Barber Guay, please. [0:27:41, 0:27:53]: questions for Ms. Miller. This is for Mr. Aaron. Okay. Vehicles will be assigned to Public Works. Mr. Aaron, how many vehicles do you have in Public Works already? [0:27:53, 0:27:54]: Just curious. [0:27:55, 0:27:57]: It's probably about [0:27:57, 0:27:59]: Thirty, thirty five. [0:27:59, 0:28:03]: Thirty five vehicles already. I'd get you an exact count tomorrow. [0:28:03, 0:28:05]: Okay, can you tell me what these will be used for? [0:28:06, 0:28:18]: This is a one of the stormwater, you're replacing a 2006 with 139,000 miles on it. And the other one is a 2005 with 130-some thousand miles. So [0:28:18, 0:28:24]: These are public works trucks. They're not like the typical vehicles like the one I have, the 2013. [0:28:24, 0:28:32]: You could drive it for about 15 or 20 years because it's just you're just going like the city hall back and forth. But these vehicles are hauling equipment. [0:28:33, 0:28:43]: And also they're stopping and going and stopping and going and things like that. People in and out of them. So they get more wear and tear than the the normal vehicle that are used by administrative personnel. [0:28:43, 0:28:45]: Are these being used every day? [0:28:46, 0:28:47]: Yes, ma'am, they are. [0:28:48, 0:28:55]: 'Cause the stormwater you've got stormwater inspectors that are out. You've got uh four inspectors that are out. [0:28:55, 0:28:59]: doing inspections. So each one I'm uh doing separate inspections. [0:29:00, 0:29:02]: So they don't share vehicles. [0:29:02, 0:29:04]: No ma'am, because in order to [0:29:05, 0:29:10]: inspect over five thousand structures a year, they need to be going their separate ways. [0:29:14, 0:29:18]: All right. Okay. Uh Councilman, stand by. Councilman Thomas, go here, please. [0:29:18, 0:29:24]: Thank you, Mayor. Uh it it also my understanding that one of these vehicles would be for the new. [0:29:25, 0:29:31]: Uh code enforcement supervisor. Uh Mrs. Johnson, could you speak to [0:29:32, 0:29:34]: Uh the aggressive [0:29:35, 0:29:39]: It's my aggressive is my words, not yours. Uh could you speak to [0:29:40, 0:29:46]: um the desires in the future for this position going forward as far as code enforcement. [0:29:47, 0:29:49]: Uh certainly, Councillor. [0:29:49, 0:30:04]: Ms. Thomas. So the as you know, the new code enforcement supervisors started about two weeks ago in community development. You started going in and out. [0:30:04, 0:30:05]: Mira, can you [0:30:05, 0:30:10]: Yeah. Miss Johnson, we can uh you're you're fading in and out. [0:30:11, 0:30:14]: Because you don't have a great connection, you come in and out [0:30:14, 0:30:20]: Yeah, she may need to rec may need to reconnect. I'll I'll s I'll mention that um of course we've [0:30:20, 0:30:28]: Hired the code enforcement supervisor, uh, Miss Vanderpool, who comes with a great deal of experience not only in code enforcement, but also in law enforcement at an extensive career. [0:30:29, 0:30:33]: and law enforcement and um she's been uh with us for about two weeks now. [0:30:34, 0:30:46]: Uh she uh in my conversation with Ms. Johnson, she's come up with a some interesting uh thoughts and ideas about addressing uh some code enforcement matters and how we might go about uh doing that. [0:30:46, 0:30:52]: Obviously, this uh is an additional person who will be out in the field, not just administrative, but will be out in the field. [0:30:53, 0:30:59]: uh to be able to uh re uh view the city on a regular basis, uh make recommendations and of course [0:30:59, 0:31:03]: Enforce our codes and that is been and still continues to be. [0:31:04, 0:31:06]: An emphasis for the city to ensure [0:31:07, 0:31:12]: Um that the proper maintenance and beautification uh are done and and completed throughout the city. So [0:31:13, 0:31:20]: Um I I think that uh Miss Miss Johnson is trying to rejoin, but uh just wanted to provide that summary. [0:31:20, 0:31:22]: Uh to the mayor and council. [0:31:23, 0:31:25]: Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. [0:31:25, 0:31:34]: It's yeah, I I yield back. Uh I just wanted to emphasize the new code enforcement supervising. Thank you. I yield back. Oh, no problem. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:31:35, 0:31:37]: Yeah, Mayor, this is um [0:31:37, 0:31:40]: To Mr. Ayr and I guess any other departments. [0:31:40, 0:31:45]: Uh at the end of the year, we we approve a budget for each department. [0:31:46, 0:31:50]: And at the end of the year, we would hope that staff that are on board [0:31:51, 0:31:55]: We take those for me, I think it'd be better to take those inventories of what you're going to need. [0:31:56, 0:32:01]: the following year because the budget had already has already been approved, those interdepartmental budgets. [0:32:02, 0:32:05]: And just make inventory on everything you're gonna need because [0:32:06, 0:32:08]: Why keep coming back piecing piecing piecing? [0:32:09, 0:32:10]: when these are things that you know you need. [0:32:11, 0:32:13]: When you get those budget set. [0:32:14, 0:32:22]: Um, by this council and whatever fine balance that you all have in those inner departments, is that you just do a sweep of what you need. [0:32:22, 0:32:31]: And so when it's approved by council, we don't have to keep coming back doing this. You just go ahead and make those purchases because they already been approved with the budget that's already been been approved by the council. [0:32:32, 0:32:38]: I mean, I don't understand why we wouldn't I mean what would be the what would be the the the fallback from operating like that? [0:32:40, 0:32:55]: These are budgeted. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead, Mr. Everett. These are budgeted funds. We're coming before council to get council to ratify the purchase. These were budgeted. You approved these purchases in the budget. We're just coming back before council to ratify the purchase. [0:32:55, 0:33:01]: Well and well then it goes back to follow up, if you may will, Mayor, then it goes back to what I just stated. [0:33:02, 0:33:08]: If there's a if if there's if there's a line item of ob uh of of items that are needed. [0:33:09, 0:33:15]: All you have to do is come to that council ja in January and we approve those items off the budget that was approved before January. [0:33:16, 0:33:28]: And those things wouldn't have to keep coming back to council because they've already been approv approved and the monies are already accounted for unless there's something out of the way or or haven't been uh um [0:33:28, 0:33:41]: uh uh thought uh or seeing that that would that that is needed, then you would come back to the council. But but but to keep coming back and piecing this, I need this little piece that's been approved of that piece. I'm just just thinking of a better shifting in what we're doing. [0:33:41, 0:33:49]: Well I think I think if I may add and I think it's correct is um Mr. Aaron and his staff did assess what they needed. [0:33:49, 0:33:54]: which was approved in the twenty twenty one budget, which we're in now. So these vehicles were approved. [0:33:54, 0:34:01]: So when they're actually purchased, we're using a piggyback contract uh via procurement through essentially a state contract. [0:34:01, 0:34:05]: And in order to do that and to have um all of that [0:34:06, 0:34:11]: properly documented and put out the RFP and use this or use the piggyback on a state contract. [0:34:11, 0:34:16]: We need to have that come through the council for you to in order for you to approve it. And so [0:34:17, 0:34:19]: The state contracts generally give you a very good deal. [0:34:20, 0:34:26]: In this case, we're using them for three vehicles, not only public works, but for the code enforcement supervisor as well, to bundle them together to get [0:34:26, 0:34:32]: uh the best deal for it. So that's the reason why even though it's been budgeted funds, the actual purchase is via [0:34:32, 0:34:36]: the state contract um from a um piggyback award. [0:34:39, 0:34:39]: Right. [0:34:40, 0:34:48]: Uh okay, any other questions from Mr. Aaron? And if they're not, then I need a motion to accept his proposal, please. [0:34:48, 0:34:52]: So moved. Okay, Ms. Bobler and Ms. Kent second that. [0:34:53, 0:34:54]: Any further discussion? [0:34:55, 0:34:57]: If not, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:34:58, 0:35:01]: And it is unanimous. Plant, thank you very much. Appreciate it. [0:35:01, 0:35:15]: Council consideration to approve RFP request for proposal number two zero one nine-007P contract renewal with the Rush Truck Center of Georgia incorporated in the amount of forty-eight thousand nine hundred ninety-five dollars. [0:35:16, 0:35:26]: for purchase of a Izu, Izu, chassis and truck bodies, funny source, public works department. Miss Miller and Dessis Aaron, once again, please. [0:35:27, 0:35:44]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Uh in the public works budget, this was approved along with the lawnmowers that we purchased. So this is the truck that would haul the lawnmowers to the different sites. So we're coming before a council to get a ratification to go ahead and purchase this uh chassis off of the state contract. [0:35:45, 0:35:47]: Mm-hmm. Alexander Goy, please. [0:35:47, 0:35:50]: Yeah, the s the question that I want to ask Mr. Aaron. [0:35:50, 0:36:03]: And Mr. Night is at some point I think we we had discussed us pursuing at least a few alternative fuel vehicles, electrical electric vehicles or [0:36:03, 0:36:06]: or some other form, clean green energy type vehicles. [0:36:07, 0:36:12]: uh adding them to their fleet, but I don't see us moving in that direction of going toward [0:36:12, 0:36:13]: Clean energy. [0:36:14, 0:36:16]: Uh'cause that's where the world is going to and [0:36:16, 0:36:20]: Uh you know, we we we s we seem to try to we want to represent that. [0:36:20, 0:36:23]: When when is it that we're gonna make a move toward [0:36:24, 0:36:24]: Um [0:36:25, 0:36:27]: Some green energy vehicles in terms of [0:36:27, 0:36:36]: You know, we have Georgia Power headquarters right here, uh call center right here in in Stockbridge, right? So it surely would make some sense for us to [0:36:36, 0:36:40]: move in that direction. But in terms of the environment and the planet that we leave. [0:36:40, 0:36:46]: Can we talk about that a little bit? At some point we need to move toward alternative fuel vehicles instead of [0:36:46, 0:36:49]: Uh in it, especially in Atlanta, we have bad air day. [0:36:50, 0:36:50]: Today. [0:36:51, 0:36:51]: But [0:36:52, 0:36:56]: Folks who are sensitive, you got smog and everything going on. We gotta do our part. [0:36:56, 0:36:59]: Uh it i in little increments, I think, up front. [0:37:02, 0:37:22]: Well, I would mention that that that is a point uh worth noting. I think that um, you know, for the vehicles that we currently use, these vehicles, given their economy and given the use that they have, may be the best option now. Although I will say this, I think in the infrastructure plan that uh President Biden is proposing that hopefully will [0:37:22, 0:37:26]: will navigate its way through the legislature here in the next month or two. [0:37:27, 0:37:35]: That there will be some funding for those types of vehicles, especially for local governments. And so that is something that I have an eye on. [0:37:36, 0:37:40]: If that does happen, that provides yet another window and opportunity to be able to [0:37:40, 0:37:41]: Purchase those purchase. [0:37:42, 0:37:44]: potentially purchase those types of vehicles. [0:37:45, 0:37:47]: Um, via the infrastructure plan that's being proposed. [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: Okay, Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:37:52, 0:38:00]: Uh Mr. Aaron, on this uh because I I think this is a non-motors rise, it's it's it's just a chassis that's gonna be pulling. [0:38:00, 0:38:03]: Uh is that how many is that one purchase of a chassis? [0:38:04, 0:38:08]: Yes, and then you you put like a trailer on it. A trailer. [0:38:08, 0:38:12]: And so they can haul those lawnmowers and other equipment on it. [0:38:12, 0:38:14]: So this is the purchase of one chassis. [0:38:15, 0:38:20]: Yes, and the trailer's about eight thousand dollars that that attaches to it. So [0:38:21, 0:38:25]: But this is the actual truck, the truck and the truck chassis. [0:38:25, 0:38:29]: But it's a body that goes with it to haul the equipment. [0:38:32, 0:38:32]: Okay. [0:38:33, 0:38:38]: So so you already have the funding for every the other portion already? [0:38:38, 0:38:44]: Yes, sir. We we put it in the budget to buy the truck, the chassis, and and the trailer for it. [0:38:45, 0:38:46]: Okay. [0:38:46, 0:38:54]: Mayor if there's no more further question, I'd like just like to go ahead and approve uh the uh purchase of the any other questions from the council. [0:38:55, 0:38:57]: All right, then I need a motion to accept the proposal. [0:38:57, 0:39:00]: Uh so moved. Okay, is there Mr. Blount so moved? Is there a second? [0:39:01, 0:39:09]: Second. I second. Mr. Alexander, I second that. Any further discussion? And if not, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:39:10, 0:39:13]: Another unanimous decision. Fantastic. Okay. Thank you. [0:39:15, 0:39:29]: Council consideration to approve RFP request for proposal number two zero one eight dash zero zero one Q special non-hazardous waste service agreement renewal with Republic Services incorporated amount of thirty-five thousand dollars. [0:39:30, 0:39:35]: Funding source water and sewer department budget, Miss Miller once again, and Miss Darren, please. [0:39:35, 0:39:42]: Good afternoon, once again, Mayor and Council. The Public Works Department is requesting City Council's approval to renew the term contract. [0:39:42, 0:39:47]: For request for proposal number two two thousand eighteen zero zero one Q. [0:39:47, 0:39:51]: For the record, the agreement with Republic Services a request for proposal. [0:39:52, 0:39:53]: Um between [0:39:53, 0:39:58]: between the city and republic services was initiated back in 2018. [0:39:58, 0:40:13]: Uh the uh Republic Services own and operates the Pine Ridge landfill, which is closest, which is the closest landfill within a reasonable distance to dispose of waste, biosolid waste and acceptable waste from the city water treatment plant. [0:40:14, 0:40:19]: Therefore, city staff is requesting uh your approval to renew the contract through December fourth, twenty twenty two. [0:40:21, 0:40:22]: Questions, council? [0:40:22, 0:40:24]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:40:24, 0:40:42]: Mayor, there's no in no questions. I'm I'm pretty sure there's been pretty vetted. Uh uh hasn't been anything on my radar uh for as the uh I haven't gotten anything about about the uh quality of service. So I'm assuming that everything is going well with it. So I like to approve this tonight if there's no more questions from council. [0:40:43, 0:40:44]: A second. [0:40:44, 0:40:51]: Okay, uh Blount and then Gantt further discussion. And if not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:40:52, 0:40:54]: All right, unanimous once again, outstanding. [0:40:56, 0:41:12]: Council consideration to approve change order number for the new public works facility in amount of fifty-eight thousand two hundred and ninety-four dollars and fifty cents, extending the existing contract number RFQ 2015909-01 with Pawn Company. [0:41:12, 0:41:20]: To an overall total of six hundred sixty-seven thousand one hundred and ninety-six dollars and fifty cents. Once again, Miss Miller, Mr. please. [0:41:21, 0:41:25]: Good afternoon. Once again, the public works department is requesting city council approval. [0:41:25, 0:41:28]: or change order for additional services. [0:41:28, 0:41:32]: The existing contract for Pond uh was at six oh eight nine oh three. [0:41:33, 0:41:48]: Um, with this change order,$58,293.50, it extends the contract out to$667,196.50. I do know that um they they do have a representative from Pond here this evening, uh along with public works. [0:41:50, 0:41:53]: Okay. Um any questions, council? [0:41:55, 0:42:02]: For this Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. Is the representative from Pond here? I uh I'm trying to [0:42:02, 0:42:04]: Yeah, so I um [0:42:04, 0:42:07]: Okay. This is B J Marin with Pond and Company. [0:42:08, 0:42:10]: Go ahead, sir. Do you have anything you need to add, sir, at this point? [0:42:11, 0:42:17]: Yeah, the um the so this request for uh traditional services is [0:42:17, 0:42:20]: An extension of our contract which [0:42:21, 0:42:40]: And um our original contract was actually due to um to expire I think it was August of last year, which was based on the overall construction contract. Um because of uh you know, earlier change orders remember we had the weather delays last year, but we also had some contractor um initiate delays with some [0:42:40, 0:42:42]: scheduling and steal and some um [0:42:42, 0:42:50]: And some quality issues regarding the steel that we've uh worked with the contractor and and the reason you hired us is to make sure that through this construction process that um [0:42:51, 0:42:52]: That the uh the work was [0:42:53, 0:42:54]: Done in a quality manner. [0:42:55, 0:42:57]: Um, so between weather delays [0:42:57, 0:43:05]: Um and um some testing delays and then also making sure the qu the construction work was done. Um we were able to actually leverage [0:43:05, 0:43:09]: that the the cost of that contract all the way to about February fifteenth. [0:43:10, 0:43:17]: But at that point, um, we also and had made got an extension of agreement on the clash change order with the contractor to extend [0:43:18, 0:43:21]: The construction date, if you recall on the last comp on the last uh [0:43:22, 0:43:23]: meeting we had [0:43:23, 0:43:27]: that extended the construction schedule to February fifteenth. [0:43:27, 0:43:30]: As of right now, the contractor has [0:43:30, 0:43:38]: As in as near completion of the facility, we've done a walkthrough and there's uh still several items that the contractor needs to [0:43:39, 0:43:44]: fix or finish up and correct before we can deliver the the uh project to the city. [0:43:45, 0:43:51]: Right now he is actually outside of contract because he was scheduled to be done February fifteenth, which is where [0:43:52, 0:43:56]: our agreement had extended and we were able to leverage our existing agreement to the [0:43:57, 0:44:02]: But because now we're February fifteenth to to a date here in the near future. [0:44:02, 0:44:09]: Um we needed additional funds in order to manage the contractor through delivery of this building. [0:44:09, 0:44:14]: Now I will say this is because the contractor is outside of his construction schedule. [0:44:14, 0:44:19]: We are we withhold as part of the process ten percent of the construction fee. [0:44:19, 0:44:32]: for situations like this where he's operating outside the contractor due to contractor his own initiated delay. So while you are extending, we're asking you to extend or asking you to approve this change order. [0:44:33, 0:44:45]: the the negotiation for that ten percent retainage will be will be negotiated and we'll be having discussions with the contractor that the contractor reimbursed the city for the amount of funds [0:44:45, 0:44:48]: required to pay for our services. [0:44:48, 0:44:52]: because of his delays past his p um contractual delivery date. [0:44:52, 0:44:53]: So [0:44:54, 0:44:57]: Um while this is a additional cost right now to the city. [0:44:57, 0:44:59]: Um it will it will be in the end. [0:44:59, 0:45:04]: the um at it the contractor's cost to reimburse the city out of the pain. [0:45:05, 0:45:06]: for this uh change order. [0:45:07, 0:45:09]: Okay, thank you. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:45:09, 0:45:11]: So a question, Mr. Um [0:45:12, 0:45:14]: Market. This is Mark. [0:45:14, 0:45:22]: Okay. Um on on this, so you're looking at that they're approximately three months outside of the window of of what they said the completion would be. [0:45:23, 0:45:24]: Correct. [0:45:24, 0:45:29]: And so when we talk about the fifty-eight thousand dollars fifty-eight thousand two hundred and ninety-three dollars and fifty cents. [0:45:30, 0:45:33]: What what actually does this entail for for you all? [0:45:34, 0:45:37]: on basis of what you have all have to do that needs to be completed. [0:45:38, 0:45:41]: So so this actually extends back to [0:45:41, 0:45:45]: February fifteenth. So we're we're really kind of operating [0:45:45, 0:45:47]: at risk right now from February fifteenth. [0:45:47, 0:45:52]: till this day today. What this is, is this is management of [0:45:52, 0:45:54]: The um the contractors work. [0:45:54, 0:45:56]: Weekly site inspections. [0:45:56, 0:45:59]: Um the uh manager of the pay application. [0:45:59, 0:46:01]: It also includes [0:46:01, 0:46:02]: Um in um [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: specialty inspections having [0:46:04, 0:46:11]: the um the design team come back and do the inspections, the close out inspections of all the contractors work. So we had [0:46:11, 0:46:17]: We had um site observation reports just recently completed for architecture, but the interior exterior. [0:46:17, 0:46:20]: We had structural inspections, we had [0:46:20, 0:46:25]: Electrical inspections, mechanical inspections. So it's inspecting the contractor's work from the design side. [0:46:25, 0:46:29]: And then it also um it also the cost for um [0:46:29, 0:46:34]: any m any additional uh a small amount of additional special inspections. [0:46:34, 0:46:41]: related to uh the building and structural aspect. So this is all inspecting and managing the contractor's work on behalf of the city. [0:46:42, 0:46:46]: So we're it's you're paying us to make sure that the contractor delivers you a quality product. [0:46:47, 0:46:50]: So the project itself was expected to only be a year? [0:46:51, 0:46:55]: Yeah, I think the uh I have to go back and look at what the original [0:46:55, 0:46:57]: schedule date was, but I think it was like ten months. [0:46:58, 0:47:03]: Um it originally got extended because of the weather delays that we experienced. If you recall a year ago we had [0:47:04, 0:47:09]: Several months of heavy rain, unsuitable soils, which we had to come in doing remediation. [0:47:09, 0:47:14]: Um around the middle of last year we we experienced some significant delays because [0:47:14, 0:47:16]: the fabrication um [0:47:16, 0:47:19]: of the steel that was delivered to the site. [0:47:19, 0:47:25]: was not uh correct. There was some issues with it. And so we ended up having to spend some um [0:47:25, 0:47:27]: We had to end up getting the contractor to [0:47:28, 0:47:36]: to uh redo, um add some additional steel, do some additional welds, and then we had to go back and do a lot of additional inspections on those welds to make sure. [0:47:36, 0:47:43]: that the um that the that it met all of the quality standards that we would expect and that were of the contract document. [0:47:43, 0:47:45]: We were able to uh [0:47:45, 0:47:54]: And so a lot of those costs, all that cost and everything else that was on the contract initiated, which was burdened by the contractor, is encompassed in these uh [0:47:54, 0:47:55]: additional fees. [0:47:55, 0:48:14]: So what what you're saying is that when when you find unsuitable soils and when you find some of the complications that you just explained, that would throw a schedule off. And right now we're at three months out from the project of completion because of you guys with the oversight, we're three months off because of the things that you guys saw. [0:48:14, 0:48:22]: I'm just trying to figure out how do we get to the$58,000 change order. Uh how many is this the only change order we've gotten from you all? [0:48:23, 0:48:27]: This is the so this is the only well [0:48:28, 0:48:40]: There was for for Pond and company itself, this is the third change order since I've been involved. The first one was a small change order um to um um to re I think it was to um [0:48:40, 0:48:42]: It was a change order to resize. [0:48:42, 0:48:58]: Um in the the the first two change order were city initiated change orders, one to resize the IT room and then there was a change order on some material changes as well. And so those so those were small a small um under or I think one was like eight thousand it was like [0:48:59, 0:49:01]: twelve thousand or thirteen thousand dollar change orders. [0:49:02, 0:49:10]: Um, but this is the first change order on the program side as far as the owner's rep, the work that we're doing as far as managing the contractor and the inspection work. [0:49:10, 0:49:11]: And um [0:49:11, 0:49:20]: And uh and like I said, this work this change order that we're getting from you, we are we are gonna be holding that against the contractor to reimburse the city because [0:49:20, 0:49:27]: These are contractor initiated delays, which is contractor initiated cost burden burden of cost. [0:49:27, 0:49:33]: which will come out of which we will negotiate out of is ten percent retainage, meaning this is money we have not paid the contractor. [0:49:33, 0:49:37]: So we're gonna negotiate the fee down so that the city [0:49:37, 0:49:46]: essentially will not be paying we'll be paying fifty eight thousand or whatever and this is an hourly contract. So if we don't reach the fifty eight, you we don't we don't cost the fifty eight, but [0:49:46, 0:49:55]: it'll be uh money that that we that the city will not reimburse the contractor for until you'll get it back if whatever we have to expend about this contract part of this change. [0:49:56, 0:50:03]: Last last follow-up, mayor. I'm not a contractor in it. I'm just [0:50:03, 0:50:09]: But I'm saying if you if you came into these different situations, and I'm pretty sure you've been doing this quite a while. [0:50:09, 0:50:18]: Yeah. There's using an extension of grace period of whatever times because unsuitable soils and other things that you've seen. I'm just trying to figure out why the city is coming now. [0:50:19, 0:50:36]: to pay this an extension that you saying is won't be charged back to the city. And we have now we can recoup that because the contract went outside the window, but it went outside the window because of some of the things you just mentioned. I'm just saying we're kind of going in a circle coming back, but it's costing the city over$58,000. [0:50:37, 0:50:43]: So so love let's go to the timeline. So there's been two contract extensions for the contractor. [0:50:43, 0:50:45]: And the first contract extension [0:50:46, 0:50:46]: Um [0:50:46, 0:50:51]: included in unforeseen conditions related to the soil's unsuitability. [0:50:51, 0:50:53]: The the contractor [0:50:53, 0:50:54]: is not [0:50:54, 0:50:55]: Is not [0:50:55, 0:50:58]: The contractor we extended that at a as a grace because [0:50:59, 0:51:02]: He was not aware of that those unsuitable soils. [0:51:02, 0:51:04]: We we've fixed the unsuitable soils and so [0:51:05, 0:51:07]: He was burdened by that because he didn't know about it. [0:51:07, 0:51:18]: Now there were some delays on the schedule related to contractor performance, the performance of his work, the quality of his work, and the effort that we had to go and inspect and reinspect the work because of [0:51:19, 0:51:20]: Workmanship and that type of thing. [0:51:21, 0:51:36]: Now those are those are contractor initiated delays, meaning if you had ordered the the right just to be layman here, if you'd ordered the right part, if you'd have constructed it of qual the right quality of the standard that we expect the first time, these delays would have never occurred. [0:51:36, 0:51:39]: Those those are the delays right now. [0:51:39, 0:51:43]: that are that are that we're coming back in and saying, Okay [0:51:43, 0:51:46]: There's a cost here. There's a cost for additional inspections. [0:51:46, 0:51:49]: There was a cost for time spent by myself. [0:51:49, 0:51:50]: And our partner [0:51:51, 0:51:57]: to go back to go and s and go weekly site visit, to have the um bi weekly OAC meetings. [0:51:57, 0:52:05]: To review reports, to do site visit inspections, do this work on behalf of the city. So we're representing the city to make sure that [0:52:05, 0:52:09]: Вер окей, а в токве відлай. [0:52:09, 0:52:12]: But those costs, the burden of cost to the city. [0:52:12, 0:52:15]: Is not should not be burdened by the city. [0:52:15, 0:52:18]: However, our contract is with the city. So we're asking the city [0:52:18, 0:52:20]: to approve a change order. [0:52:20, 0:52:22]: to to allow us [0:52:22, 0:52:31]: the cost the cost to get us through final completion. However, when we reconcile the final contract with the contractor, the negotiation of saying we're [0:52:32, 0:52:36]: Is saying we're gonna pay the contractor his agreed fees less the cost. [0:52:37, 0:52:40]: That was burdened by the city at renew response and [0:52:40, 0:52:46]: by and no responsibility by the city, meaning the city did not initiate these the contractors issues. [0:52:46, 0:52:51]: cost the city fifty eight thousand. So therefore the contractors should should we the the contractors should be [0:52:52, 0:53:03]: should be is warranted his full contract less the amount of money that was burdened that he burdened the city by. And that's where that's where you're gonna that's where the city will eventually be made whole and there'll be and it'll really be a zero dollar [0:53:04, 0:53:07]: This will be a zero dollar change order once we close out the project. [0:53:08, 0:53:12]: But wouldn't you all make those provisions with the contractor? [0:53:12, 0:53:14]: Well I'll try to use digital thing. [0:53:15, 0:53:16]: But what what I'm saying is [0:53:17, 0:53:19]: That that negotiated amount. [0:53:19, 0:53:39]: Is should be between you and it since you're the overseer of the project and this should just be reported to us that what is not gonna have to be paid b per what the standard is for completion and materials and all these other things. I'm just trying I'm trying to get to the city paying over fifty-eight thousand dollars for a change order when it seems to me that whatever. [0:53:39, 0:53:42]: embodies the the process [0:53:42, 0:53:57]: um uh that we are paying for already should already been formulated and and and prevailed through whatever needs to happen. That's that's what I I don't understand why we're getting a change order. That's well uh let's let's let me let me let me reclarify because this is really more of an administrative formality. [0:53:57, 0:53:58]: So [0:53:58, 0:54:01]: We're not asking we're not asking you to pay us [0:54:01, 0:54:07]: fifty eight thousand dollars. We're asking you to approve a change order to authorize the fifty eight thousand dollars. [0:54:07, 0:54:08]: To [0:54:08, 0:54:10]: for the services that we're gonna do to manage the contract. [0:54:10, 0:54:25]: When we go and we ask the city to pay and we go to approve the contractor, so we're we're approving the payout. So the city's paying the contractor, the city's paying us. When we go and say, Okay, we're approving the final bill to the contractor, we're gonna we're gonna approve [0:54:25, 0:54:39]: the final bill less the amount of money you're giving to the city. So that final bill, you're gonna instead of paying the contractor the full amount of his contract, you're gonna pay most of it to the contractor and the portion that goes to Ponds for because of the cost. [0:54:39, 0:54:43]: of the over of the delays are actually going to come to us. So [0:54:43, 0:54:49]: really it's more of an administrative formality. It's not you're having to pay an extra fifty eight thousand dollars, if that makes sense. [0:54:52, 0:55:05]: Okay, Mr. Blount, just you're you're good now? Uh if so, Councilman Gantt. Yeah, I'm I'm gonna yield, uh Mayor. Uh no, it doesn't make sense, but I'm gonna yield. Okay, Councilman uh Councilwoman Gantt go ahead please. You got a question? [0:55:06, 0:55:13]: I I wanted to make sure that there was a contract that's in the contractual language. Um [0:55:13, 0:55:20]: with the construction company that we would be that they would be reimbursing us for what we're having to pay now. [0:55:21, 0:55:22]: Yeah. Yeah, they [0:55:23, 0:55:30]: The the the contractor's not reimbursing. Remember we what we're doing is the contractor when he completes a certain amount of money. [0:55:30, 0:55:34]: Or we can can uh completes a certain amount of work, we review the work. [0:55:34, 0:55:41]: And we and we and then we inform the city that the contractor has completed this work that has this value and the city should pay the contract. [0:55:41, 0:55:46]: Now throughout this whole process we we we hold what we call a ten percent retaining. [0:55:46, 0:55:54]: Which means that even though he says I completed, let's say, two hundred thousand dollars worth of work, he's actually only getting paid a hundred and eighty thousand dollars. [0:55:54, 0:55:56]: But the city only paid them one hundred and eighty thousand dollars [0:55:57, 0:56:00]: twenty thousand dollars goes into retainage for issues exactly like this. [0:56:01, 0:56:02]: So [0:56:02, 0:56:08]: At the end of the day, now we're getting towards final completion. He's still got another another invoice and bill that he'll do for final completion. [0:56:08, 0:56:11]: Uh which at that point he'll ask for the retainers. [0:56:11, 0:56:12]: Now [0:56:13, 0:56:15]: What happens is that that point [0:56:15, 0:56:17]: We're gonna come back and say, Okay [0:56:17, 0:56:20]: Yes, you're entitled to final completion. [0:56:20, 0:56:40]: but you're not getting your full repaintage because there was cost beyond your contract agreements that says you were gonna deliver this on February fifteenth. Everything after February fifteenth, there was cost incurred by the city in order because you delayed this project past the fifteenth. So we are not going to pay you that money that that you know goes back there. [0:56:40, 0:56:51]: those costs there then are going to be re are going to be delivered to Pond and to the the the consultants and the inspections and everybody I got working underneath me to reimburse for our time. [0:56:51, 0:56:55]: for those inspections that were due to the contractor's delay. [0:56:55, 0:56:55]: So [0:56:56, 0:56:57]: At the end of the day [0:56:57, 0:57:09]: the city's gonna pay the same amount of money no matter what. All we're doing is saying there's a portion of that, up to fifty eight thousand, that may be redirected from the contractor to pond for those inspections. And that's part of the agreement. [0:57:11, 0:57:11]: Yeah. [0:57:12, 0:57:14]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [0:57:16, 0:57:24]: Okay. Um so your current contract, is it still active or has it expired? I have a copy of it, but it's too lengthy for me to read. [0:57:26, 0:57:27]: Is it still active? [0:57:28, 0:57:30]: So our contract so our contract [0:57:30, 0:57:31]: It's [0:57:32, 0:57:33]: It is [0:57:33, 0:57:34]: Um [0:57:35, 0:57:52]: I don't know that was necessarily an expiration date, but there was a cost of the services with an expected deadline of services of when the things were supposed to be complete. So we have we have really an ongoing contract, but our but the money that we've spent, we've gone we are now over budget on that contract. [0:57:52, 0:57:59]: Gotcha. Okay. This is for professional services, professional design services. So I get it. Um [0:58:00, 0:58:00]: So [0:58:01, 0:58:06]: What you're saying is this fifty eight thousand dollars change order. [0:58:06, 0:58:08]: is for additional work that you all are doing. [0:58:09, 0:58:11]: Outside of what has already been [0:58:12, 0:58:14]: Formulated in the original contract. [0:58:15, 0:58:17]: But because there were delays. [0:58:18, 0:58:20]: Due to the fault of the contractor. [0:58:20, 0:58:26]: we're having to pay you for your design services, the$58,000. [0:58:27, 0:58:30]: We will recoup that fifty-eight thousand dollars that we're paying you. [0:58:31, 0:58:32]: Through payment. [0:58:33, 0:58:37]: that we would pay to the contractor when we close out. [0:58:37, 0:58:38]: The agreement. [0:58:38, 0:58:39]: So Mr. Knighton. [0:58:40, 0:58:42]: Um and maybe Mr. [0:58:42, 0:58:44]: The attorneys. Oh, Mr. Berry. [0:58:44, 0:58:56]: Um I hope that you all will be in discussions with that contractor if you have not already. Mr. Knighton, have you spoken with this particular contractor? [0:58:57, 0:59:02]: I ha I have not spoken directly with the contractor, which is Pelicano Construction is the one who's [0:59:02, 0:59:06]: uh the contractor of record for the public works facility. I had not spoken [0:59:06, 0:59:17]: I've met some of them, I think, at the walkthrough or walkthrough, but I have not spoken to them about this particular issue. Okay, Mr. Aaron, have you spoken with this particular contractor? [0:59:18, 0:59:23]: Yes, I have along with Mr. Martin. We've had uh bi-weekly. [0:59:23, 0:59:30]: uh OAC meetings with the contractor and them design team. So those issues have been brought. [0:59:30, 0:59:39]: Okay, so they are aware that this$58,000 that the city is paying out now, it will be deducted from their final payment. They are aware of that. [0:59:40, 0:59:42]: Mm-hmm. Yes, they are. Yes, they are. Okay. [0:59:43, 0:59:43]: Alrighty. [0:59:44, 0:59:45]: Thank you. [0:59:45, 0:59:55]: Uh Mayor Prochema, you at you adjusting your camera or you do want to speak here? Okay. All right. Anybody, any other council member? All right. I see. I have one more question. So yes, go ahead, Ms. Kent. [0:59:56, 0:59:57]: So [0:59:57, 1:00:08]: Are we the contract that we have with you all already? What does it state about payments? Why are we paying you extra exactly? Um what what are we [1:00:10, 1:00:18]: Is is yours not an hourly rate or or a flat fee rate or what is it that we're paying you for in addition that that's addition? [1:00:18, 1:00:23]: To this fifty eight thousand dollars. Why are we doing that? Is that not in your contract already? [1:00:23, 1:00:35]: So you're right. It is so we had actually an hourly rate. So when we pay fifty eight thousand, what we did is we weren't sure how long it was gonna take the contractor to complete his work. So it's a projected cost out to a certain date. [1:00:36, 1:00:40]: Whether we we made it where we likely are probably not gonna get to the fifty eight thousand dollars. [1:00:40, 1:00:43]: Just you know, so it is an hourly not succeed. [1:00:43, 1:00:45]: Our contract for professional services. [1:00:45, 1:00:52]: as as a representative uh for the city. So we're we're your we're your representative to manage the contractor. [1:00:52, 1:00:56]: We're being we're you're we're being contracted through professional services. [1:00:57, 1:01:01]: To manage the contractor, manage the schedule, manage the performance of his work. [1:01:01, 1:01:04]: 'Cause we want to make sure that that [1:01:04, 1:01:05]: The work is being [1:01:05, 1:01:10]: performed exactly the way we need it to be with regards to design quality, everything else. [1:01:11, 1:01:11]: So [1:01:12, 1:01:23]: when delays like this happen because material delay had two different site superintendents now change over and they the multiple issues that have happened, that that project gets delayed. [1:01:23, 1:01:23]: Well [1:01:24, 1:01:28]: Our budget, our original budget that was set with the city was based on ten months. [1:01:29, 1:01:29]: Now [1:01:29, 1:01:31]: We were efficient with our time. [1:01:31, 1:01:33]: Especially during the rain delay. [1:01:33, 1:01:35]: that we were able to extend [1:01:35, 1:01:38]: our time, I think, up to thirteen months. [1:01:38, 1:01:45]: of the of what was in our original budget. So that's why we after ten months we didn't come back to you for additional money because we're [1:01:45, 1:01:49]: Well we got an hourly contract on up to a certain budget cap, right? [1:01:49, 1:01:57]: So once the February fifteenth mark rolled around, that's when we hit our budget cap and that's why we and we came back and we're asking for additional money. [1:01:58, 1:01:58]: Um [1:01:58, 1:02:03]: And so but we also didn't know how much longer it was going to take the contractor to resolve [1:02:03, 1:02:09]: or to get the building to final so we could do the walkthrough. And then now we still there's still unclear a little bit. [1:02:09, 1:02:11]: how long it's gonna take him to resolve [1:02:11, 1:02:17]: the the um the items that we've marked in our latest latest report because once he finishes those items [1:02:17, 1:02:20]: then we're gonna be able to close out the building and deliver it to the city. So [1:02:20, 1:02:27]: It's a that that fifty eight thousand is really kind of a projected cost for I think it was an additional five months or something like that. [1:02:27, 1:02:30]: If we don't get to the five months or we don't spend that money. [1:02:30, 1:02:35]: then we only charge you and and ultimately the contractor only gets charged for what [1:02:35, 1:02:38]: those costs were incurred past February fifteenth. [1:02:39, 1:02:39]: Got it. [1:02:39, 1:02:40]: Thank you. [1:02:41, 1:02:41]: Mm. [1:02:41, 1:02:43]: Councilwoman uh Barber, you had another question? [1:02:44, 1:02:47]: Oh, I wanted to make a motion to approve, but I see councilman. [1:02:48, 1:02:50]: Uh Blount does have a question. [1:02:50, 1:02:51]: Mr. Blanc, go ahead, please. [1:02:52, 1:02:59]: Yeah, since we're throwing out figures and actuals uh when it comes to figures, what was the original amount of the contract? [1:03:00, 1:03:03]: For this for the ten months that extended to [1:03:04, 1:03:07]: February fifteenth. What was the original amount? [1:03:07, 1:03:09]: Of the actual contract. [1:03:11, 1:03:12]: So um [1:03:12, 1:03:27]: I'll have to go back and take a look at my numbers. So I came in, so this professional services contract and the way the city's been tracking it, they've been tracking it as professional services from beginning of design. But when I came on board, the owner's rep side of the contract. [1:03:27, 1:03:30]: When we s when I initiated that contract back um back in [1:03:31, 1:03:38]: I guess it was uh beginning of last year, January last year, the original contract was a hundred and forty four thousand dollars. [1:03:38, 1:03:40]: For the owner's rep work. [1:03:40, 1:03:42]: Then then there was an additional [1:03:42, 1:03:45]: twenty thousand dollars for special inspections. [1:03:45, 1:03:46]: That was brought in. [1:03:47, 1:03:48]: approximately twenty thousand. [1:03:48, 1:03:53]: And then there was then there was two small design or design change orders. [1:03:53, 1:03:55]: Which were not owners' rep. And then so this is the [1:03:55, 1:03:57]: The last owner's rep change. [1:03:57, 1:04:00]: Um which is basically just extending the work that I've been doing. [1:04:01, 1:04:19]: So from what you just said, and I don't know what's all in between. So you're looking at from$164,000 to if this is approved, it would take this, uh it would take this amount over six hundred thousand dollars. So there's a lot in between that we're not getting as this council when it comes to this project and change orders. [1:04:20, 1:04:39]: Well, I I'll have to I'll have to let uh let Mr. Aaron go through that because those the numbers on the chain on the the numbers to get to six hundred thousand was before I got involved. That involved the design, the architects design of the building, the um the building design, civil design. I think we've gone through a couple of different designs, all predated my involvement on this project. [1:04:39, 1:04:41]: So my involvement on this project [1:04:41, 1:04:47]: if this change order w right now to date, my involvement on this project is roughly around a hundred and sixty four thousand. [1:04:47, 1:04:51]: Everything else prior to that was all predated in design, not in construction. [1:04:52, 1:04:58]: Mr. Knightner, Mr. Aaron, what was the original cost on this project for uh uh the pond and country? [1:05:01, 1:05:06]: Let me look through my records, but the majority of this has been [1:05:06, 1:05:21]: the site issues with the site, the building has moved from to three different locations on that site. Then we had to do a study for the uh it was in the floodplain. We had to do that to mitigate that. So it's it's been most of the [1:05:21, 1:05:28]: Issues have been with the site that we've had the build on. You got over a half a million dollars in just that site. [1:05:28, 1:05:30]: to get it prepped and ready to build. [1:05:31, 1:05:41]: Mr Mr. Aaron, uh, because I remember Mr. Alexander asking prior to a lot of this, hey, we don't wanna come back and we're sitting on this swamp. [1:05:41, 1:05:47]: Trying to build a a building. And now I just want to know what's the original cost. [1:05:47, 1:05:52]: to this company from the beginning and where we're at right now. [1:05:52, 1:05:55]: And now we're getting another fifty-eight thousand dollar change orders. [1:05:56, 1:06:05]: I just want to as this for me as a council member, I can't speak for my colleagues, but I can't keep raising my hand without justification of cost. [1:06:06, 1:06:13]: Okay, I'll I'll go over it further geotechnical exploration, estimating floodplain model and CDs. [1:06:13, 1:06:18]: We spent with Pond$181,945. [1:06:18, 1:06:37]: Then we had to do a site adaptation, existing design, road abandonment, geo evaluation. That was$92,870. Then material testing was$21,000. And then supplemental services we changed for the IT closet. [1:06:37, 1:06:41]: And then another twelve thousand for the additional. [1:06:42, 1:06:44]: uh testing on on the side. [1:06:45, 1:06:49]: Also you gotta include in the hundred and sixty four thousand that Mr. [1:06:49, 1:06:54]: Martin just mentioned about for their services to oversee the project. [1:06:56, 1:06:57]: We still got a big gap. [1:06:58, 1:07:01]: between six hundred six hundred plus thousand dollars. [1:07:02, 1:07:05]: That hasn't that hasn't closed that gap. I'm running the figures as you speak. [1:07:06, 1:07:15]: And I for me, I can't raise my hand to continue to give money on something that now you all can't even tell me what what was the contract amount versus [1:07:16, 1:07:30]: versus putting this$58,000 plus dollars on it and where we're at already, all we know is that we don't know what the starting amount was. And all we know right now is that this council is gonna be spending over$600,000. And we have no idea how we got to this point. [1:07:31, 1:07:36]: For me, I can't raise my hand to approve something if I don't see justification for that action. [1:07:37, 1:07:38]: That's just me. [1:07:41, 1:07:45]: Okay, uh Mayor Protein Alazana, go ahead, please. [1:07:47, 1:07:48]: You you muted, sir. You muted. [1:07:49, 1:07:57]: As Mr. Blount indicated, when we first started this project, I asked why were we building it in a floodplain? [1:07:57, 1:08:02]: And in the end, we are in a position where we're too far to turn back now. [1:08:02, 1:08:22]: So in essence, we're paying for that decision to build this facility where it's located at. But at this point, it's too late to turn back. So this is what we're having. I remember we had the first discussion where I asked the same question where we got we had to move the building because it uh uh it was sinking. So [1:08:22, 1:08:30]: So we these kind of things didn't just appear, but at the end we are where we are because we decided to build. [1:08:31, 1:08:32]: This particular structure. [1:08:32, 1:08:34]: In a floodplain where we're building. [1:08:34, 1:08:35]: That's where we're here. [1:08:38, 1:08:40]: Right, uh any other questions from the council? [1:08:43, 1:08:46]: Mr. Aaron, you're looking for some additional information to give the council? [1:08:46, 1:08:53]: Yes, because the majority this started before I got here. This started in June of 2016. So [1:08:54, 1:09:03]: Um I've got one estimate uh that Miss Neal signed in 2017. It was for [1:09:04, 1:09:06]: That a hundred and eighty something thousand [1:09:08, 1:09:11]: 181,945. [1:09:13, 1:09:13]: And [1:09:14, 1:09:16]: That was for exactly what, sir? [1:09:17, 1:09:18]: That was for [1:09:20, 1:09:23]: the geotechnical exploration estimate and floodplain model. [1:09:24, 1:09:24]: Okay. [1:09:26, 1:09:30]: And then there's been some issues. There was a request also at one point. [1:09:31, 1:09:32]: To see if they can [1:09:32, 1:09:36]: Add a second story to the building. That had a cost involved. [1:09:46, 1:09:52]: So what's go a go ahead stand by Alexander. Go ahead, Mr. Aaron. Go ahead. You can say something else, sir. [1:09:53, 1:10:01]: And I'd have to ask Mr. Martin, what was Pond's fees for, you know, for designing the building? That goes into there as well. [1:10:03, 1:10:04]: Yeah, so [1:10:04, 1:10:06]: So so I've only been involved [1:10:07, 1:10:11]: on this project as your as your owner's rep for the construction since [1:10:12, 1:10:14]: January of twenty twenty. [1:10:14, 1:10:15]: So [1:10:16, 1:10:19]: There was cost for design, redesign. [1:10:19, 1:10:24]: um geotech exploration, the decisions that the city council made in order to [1:10:24, 1:10:34]: get design documents together and even go through the bid process to select Pelicano as the contractor, all predated my involvement on this project. [1:10:35, 1:10:38]: Um after Pelicano was selected by the city. [1:10:39, 1:10:45]: then I was I was asked to assist the city in managing the construction process as the owner's rep. [1:10:46, 1:10:47]: From that time when I've got involved. [1:10:48, 1:10:54]: My sole job and sole responsibility was to take the design documents that was approved by the city, approved [1:10:54, 1:10:55]: To be built. [1:10:56, 1:11:00]: that was given to Pel bid to Pelicano that the those Pelicano won as the bid. [1:11:00, 1:11:03]: And to oversee them the construction of this project. [1:11:03, 1:11:06]: on the site as it was as it was finalized. [1:11:07, 1:11:09]: From that from the time I got involved. [1:11:09, 1:11:10]: The total cost [1:11:11, 1:11:13]: For the construction and the owner's rep work. [1:11:14, 1:11:18]: Um comes out to around a hundred and sixty five thousand dollars. [1:11:18, 1:11:19]: Hundred and s um [1:11:19, 1:11:21]: Hundred and forty four thousand of that. [1:11:22, 1:11:28]: was for the management of the contractor for which was which ended up being over thirteen months. [1:11:28, 1:11:28]: Which was [1:11:29, 1:11:30]: No weekly site visits. [1:11:31, 1:11:34]: Weekly coordination, bi weekly OAC meetings. [1:11:34, 1:11:37]: inspection you know, inspections, a lot of these different types of things. [1:11:38, 1:11:39]: Every all the other costs. [1:11:39, 1:11:41]: They're roll up to [1:11:41, 1:11:43]: six hundred thousand or whatever that number is. [1:11:43, 1:11:47]: All predated my involvement and were all involved in the design. [1:11:48, 1:11:50]: prior which was approved by the city [1:11:50, 1:11:56]: and approved and then and submitted to Pelicano and Pelicano won the bid and started forward. So [1:11:56, 1:11:58]: When if I think we need to be [1:11:58, 1:12:03]: I mean just saying from my standpoint, I was not involved I'm not I wasn't the architecture was not involved in the design. [1:12:03, 1:12:07]: That's why I was able to come in and represent the owner objectively. [1:12:07, 1:12:08]: And it's the same. [1:12:08, 1:12:11]: You know, I'm gonna make sure that this building gets right and and [1:12:11, 1:12:14]: It gets built right in in accordance with design plan. [1:12:14, 1:12:16]: So if we're taking a look at [1:12:16, 1:12:18]: This objectively [1:12:18, 1:12:24]: the total cost for the city once we started construction on the site is about a hundred and sixty four thousand dollars. [1:12:25, 1:12:27]: To get the building from when we first cut the dirt. [1:12:28, 1:12:31]: to where we are right now. I'm asking for fifty eight thousand dollars. [1:12:32, 1:12:35]: as a as an extension of the budget. Remember we're still charging hourly. [1:12:36, 1:12:45]: in order to extend our services from February fifteenth out to the middle of the year to make sure that the contractor will deliver this final building to the city. [1:12:45, 1:12:50]: You know, um with all issues resolved to make sure that's of you know, the top quality. [1:12:50, 1:12:51]: The um [1:12:52, 1:12:54]: And I'm not saying we'll get there, but what I but I want to reiterate. [1:12:55, 1:12:56]: The fifty eight thousand [1:12:57, 1:12:58]: cap that we're actually asking for. [1:12:59, 1:12:59]: That money [1:13:00, 1:13:08]: that we g that we would that we would bill against hourly against that, which we already have worked past our February fifteenth cash limit, is [1:13:08, 1:13:12]: is at no additional cost to the city because that also [1:13:12, 1:13:14]: Priest that also goes past [1:13:14, 1:13:15]: The contractors [1:13:15, 1:13:17]: date for delivery. [1:13:17, 1:13:25]: So he has an obligation to deliver by February fifteenth, otherwise there's some potential cost impacts to not delivering it. [1:13:25, 1:13:26]: He's aware of that. [1:13:27, 1:13:31]: And so whatever amount of money that it costs the city in order to deliver that building. [1:13:32, 1:13:34]: the contractor ultimately will burden that cost. [1:13:35, 1:13:36]: So we're here today. [1:13:36, 1:13:37]: Really to take a look at [1:13:38, 1:13:40]: delivering this building and at the end of the day [1:13:40, 1:13:42]: If you approve this change orders, it's [1:13:43, 1:13:46]: there's still gonna be zero cost to the city as an additional cost. [1:13:47, 1:13:48]: in order to deliver this building. [1:13:50, 1:13:51]: Okay. [1:13:51, 1:13:52]: Mm. [1:13:52, 1:13:57]: Th what's stand by please. Uh council, I mean Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, do you you were going to say something earlier? [1:13:58, 1:14:03]: Yeah, I I what I really want to know at this point is, I mean, we gotta finish the building. We're at this point now. [1:14:04, 1:14:08]: And basically there's a zero cost return. Basically it's [1:14:08, 1:14:12]: It's a wash in terms of which way we're going in terms of finishing the project. [1:14:12, 1:14:16]: The project has to be finished now. We can't turn back and say [1:14:16, 1:14:20]: We're we're not gonna finish it. So Mr. Knighton, what is it that we need to do to finish this? [1:14:21, 1:14:24]: project uh to brought to completion, we [1:14:24, 1:14:28]: We we went down this road, we're here now, so what's the next step? [1:14:29, 1:14:37]: The the staff recommendations is to approve this change order to be able to close out this project and complete the building. That is the recommendation. [1:14:37, 1:14:39]: Thank you. Okay. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:14:40, 1:14:43]: Okay, with that recommendation, I understand that. [1:14:43, 1:14:49]: And I understand what it is to uh when you talk to talk about the build out and you talk about the changes. [1:14:50, 1:15:00]: But what I'm gonna need from Mr. Aaron or Mr. Knighton or whoever, I need to find out how we got from the original contract to s over$600,000. [1:15:01, 1:15:07]: When when when when this change if this change orders approved tonight, how do we get to this amount? [1:15:08, 1:15:10]: Because that's not making sense to me. [1:15:11, 1:15:31]: But the numbers you all are saying doesn't come to six hundred some six hundred plus thousand dollars. And that's what's on the agenda that this app is approved tonight. We're looking at over six hundred thousand dollars. So somewhere something hasn't been said to this council or somebody's not doesn't know any figures. And I think that we should get all the information at [1:15:31, 1:15:34]: Well that means meetings anytime something's on the agenda. [1:15:34, 1:15:54]: We need to be able to get all the information pertaining to these issues or pertaining to these items instead of people telling us we're going to go back and check and check. If it's going to come from money and we got questions, those questions need to be answered because the decision is going to be made the night of those questions are being answered on the on the agenda. And that's what I'm saying. If we you [1:15:54, 1:15:59]: all want us to prove it tonight, then a questions that are asked tonight need to be answered. [1:16:00, 1:16:04]: Well, let me let me address that. I think Mr. Aaron was actually going through [1:16:04, 1:16:08]: The items that were part of the original contract and so forth. For instance, I've [1:16:09, 1:16:11]: And I think this is the what he was going through. [1:16:12, 1:16:14]: Original contract 149 two eighteen. [1:16:15, 1:16:18]: Geotechnical Exploration one hundred eighty one nine forty five. [1:16:19, 1:16:22]: Site Adaptation Existing Design 92870. [1:16:23, 1:16:26]: Construction Program Management one hundred twenty six two fifty. [1:16:27, 1:16:32]: Code evaluation and adapting existing design documents thirty three eight seventy. [1:16:32, 1:16:34]: Material testing twenty one thousand. [1:16:35, 1:16:38]: IT closet modification thirty seven fifty. That adds up to six oh eight [1:16:40, 1:16:40]: Excuse me. [1:16:41, 1:16:42]: six oh eight nine oh three. [1:16:43, 1:16:50]: You had additional night, all due respect, at no point in time, those figures was given to us just now. [1:16:51, 1:16:53]: You just read that off to us. [1:16:54, 1:16:58]: I didn't get that from Mr. Dacious. I only got that right now from you. [1:16:58, 1:17:06]: And so when we ask the question, we don't, you know, if if we had gone on from a vote from this, I wouldn't have gotten that. [1:17:07, 1:17:08]: You just gave me that. [1:17:09, 1:17:13]: None of that was given to us just now. Who who incited that besides you? [1:17:15, 1:17:18]: I mean you're talking like we've heard that, but we haven't heard it. [1:17:19, 1:17:22]: Okay, Councilman. I'm I'm saying that Mr. Aaron. [1:17:22, 1:17:27]: I think as he was going through, was mentioning those items as he was going through. Okay. [1:17:27, 1:17:32]: You asked a question about uh the totals and how you get to six hundred. So I was looking through [1:17:32, 1:17:36]: items here and I think this is what he was referring to in terms of [1:17:36, 1:17:39]: How you get to that number since twenty seventeen. [1:17:41, 1:17:45]: So my my attempt was to answer your question and try to be specific. [1:17:45, 1:17:47]: About what you were requesting. [1:17:48, 1:17:49]: Which I think Mr. Aaron had started. [1:17:52, 1:17:54]: All right, uh Councilwoman Barber, your hand was up. [1:17:58, 1:18:12]: Yes, Mayor. I moved to approve this change order for the new public works facility in the amount of$58,293.50, extending the existing contract with Pond and Company. [1:18:13, 1:18:13]: So [1:18:14, 1:18:16]: Okay, Mr. I was that second that [1:18:16, 1:18:17]: Further discussion. [1:18:18, 1:18:20]: And if not all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:18:22, 1:18:24]: Four. All pose. [1:18:26, 1:18:29]: Uh can't uh uh Mr. Blount, do you oppose? [1:18:30, 1:18:31]: Yep. [1:18:31, 1:18:32]: Abstain. [1:18:32, 1:18:35]: Abstain. So it's four zero one. All right. Thank you. [1:18:36, 1:18:37]: All right. [1:18:39, 1:18:46]: On that note, uh council consideration approved a resolution in support of I-75 Central Corridor Coalition. [1:18:46, 1:18:49]: And actually this has Mr. Knighton's name on it. [1:18:49, 1:18:51]: Ms. Knight, do you want to start this off, sir? [1:18:55, 1:18:56]: You're you're muted, Mr. Knight. [1:18:59, 1:19:01]: Yes, Mayor. Let me give give us just a moment. [1:19:01, 1:19:02]: Okay. [1:19:04, 1:19:13]: Yes, this is related to the I-75 Corridor Coalition, which is a group of cities um and jurisdictions that run along I-75. [1:19:14, 1:19:22]: Um basically uh through Butts County, Henry County, Lamar County, down to Macon Bibbs, Baldwin, Jackson, Locust Grove, McDonestock, Ridge Griffin. [1:19:22, 1:19:23]: For sight. [1:19:24, 1:19:32]: Barnesville and so forth, who uh have been assembled as an organization for probably right at about uh three and a half to four years, about four years. [1:19:33, 1:19:38]: And have been taking a look at the commonalities along Interstate Seventy Five as it relates to [1:19:39, 1:19:41]: transportation as it relates to growth, et cetera. [1:19:42, 1:19:46]: What this resolution is intended to do is just provide a letter of support. [1:19:47, 1:19:49]: Um for a smart growth study. [1:19:49, 1:19:52]: Along Interstate seventy five. [1:19:52, 1:19:56]: Uh there's no specific expenditure that's being requested of the jurisdiction. [1:19:56, 1:20:04]: We do pay an annual membership fee of$500, I believe, to be a part of this I-75 coalition, which typically meets monthly. [1:20:05, 1:20:23]: I know Mayor Ford attends, I believe, regularly every month, this coalition that discusses issues along I-75. And this is intended to provide a study of smart growth along that corridor. I yield to the mayor since he is a regular participant and regular attendee of those meetings. [1:20:23, 1:20:43]: I I think this is a a great thing for us to do. Obviously, some of you have been involved in these meetings in the past and a growth potential and looking at the mass transit uh and the sense from the the airport from the airport downtown Atlanta from Bib. And obviously we're right in the mix of all that. We're surrounded by 75 and recently have obtained uh$500,000. [1:20:43, 1:21:03]: through Senator Kennedy uh from the st from the state uh to in a sense to uh uh to have uh use that funding to help with the process here to do the study and things of this nature. So and so this that's uh the the actual chairman of the group was uh Tarp Tarpley, Tapley, I'm sorry, along with Janine uh Miller. [1:21:03, 1:21:23]: We're going to work through some processes. But we did be able to secure$500,000 for this additional work that we want to get done. And we're so we're making some progress. And the county, Chair Harrell now. [1:21:23, 1:21:43]: Now and along with the cities of uh Locust Grove and uh Madonna are also involved in this whole process. So just wanted, and they needed resolutions from all our municipalities and government county governments to make sure that we're all on board in reference to with the resolution indicating that we're supportive of what we're doing. [1:21:43, 1:21:48]: we're trying to do here. That's my quickest assessment of this. Any comments or questions or thoughts? [1:21:51, 1:21:53]: May Mayor Pro Time, you unmuted. [1:21:55, 1:21:58]: I remember Mary, we did go to we went to the meeting in Barnesville. [1:21:58, 1:22:03]: The group is is very engaged uh in the region. They want to [1:22:03, 1:22:09]: uh make some pr uh progress because in terms of there's never been a [1:22:09, 1:22:11]: A cohesive message. [1:22:11, 1:22:20]: uh for the south side. So this would c kind of bring all the communities together so we can work on some things. You know, I remember at the meeting we went to [1:22:20, 1:22:24]: Uh Griffin was talking about their multi-use trail network. [1:22:24, 1:22:27]: That would run from the University of Georgia Extension. [1:22:27, 1:22:29]: All the way over to Heron Bay. [1:22:30, 1:22:31]: Which was in Henry County, so [1:22:32, 1:22:34]: Folks are moving along. I remember uh Mayor uh [1:22:35, 1:22:38]: Amir K Pippen Pippin I'm Ms. Mayor Pippen. [1:22:38, 1:22:42]: From Jackson, she was talking about the her trail network. [1:22:42, 1:22:46]: Which is what I understand maybe twelve miles long and they're ready to open it. [1:22:46, 1:22:48]: So folks are making progress. [1:22:48, 1:22:51]: along the south side and this particular entity has really been [1:22:52, 1:22:54]: Um you know, sharing good ideas. [1:22:55, 1:23:05]: And they're a force. I like to see them punch a little harder, but in the end, I think, you know, it's a good idea for us to be able to work together collectively. [1:23:05, 1:23:07]: uh as a team to move. [1:23:07, 1:23:09]: Uh, the south side but uh uh [1:23:09, 1:23:11]: uh forward. So certainly [1:23:11, 1:23:16]: Uh, this is something that uh we should move forward to because they were talking about a resolution. [1:23:16, 1:23:21]: uh at that time. So I guess we're moving along with some of these processes, putting things in place. [1:23:21, 1:23:23]: I think they talk about some advertising or [1:23:24, 1:23:29]: some type of theme or a slogan uh uh for a down that corridor as well. Is that correct? [1:23:29, 1:23:42]: That's correct as well. That's right. That's correct. Promoting smart growth in Georgia's central corridor is is this is the theme. That's the tagline. Once again, promoting smart growth in Georgia's central corridor. That's the tagline. [1:23:43, 1:23:57]: Okay. So anyway, that so it they just needed resolution. And so uh there's a sample resolution that's in the document that you have there. And upon approval we'll have the uh our attorneys draw off that resolution and of course I will sign it and we'll continue to move on. This any other questions? Yes, go ahead. [1:23:58, 1:24:02]: Mayor'd like to make a motion to move forward with this r resolution. [1:24:02, 1:24:08]: Uh as described, it's a good program. Thank you. I second. I missed can't second that. Okay, any further discussion? [1:24:09, 1:24:11]: And if not all in favor of resolution, please indicate. [1:24:12, 1:24:27]: of the proposal. And I have an unanimous decision. Thank you, Council. Appreciate it. Good deal. Uh council consideration to approve cultural arts center funding. Mr. Knight and then of course Mr. Wall has joined us. Our financial advisors joined us for this uh discussion, please. [1:24:28, 1:24:33]: Alright, uh thank you, Mayor. Uh and to the council and to summarize here. [1:24:33, 1:24:39]: Um the uh cultural arts center uh has been bonded for fourteen million dollars. [1:24:39, 1:24:42]: Um that was approved by the council a few months ago. [1:24:42, 1:24:48]: Uh since that time uh with comp conversations with TSW, our architect, and going over [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: An attempt to try to reduce [1:24:51, 1:24:57]: uh the original concept plans from eighteen million dollars to fourteen million dollars. [1:24:57, 1:25:05]: Um, it was found that it would be very difficult to do that. And very little savings, perhaps a million and a half, two million dollars perhaps could be saved, but [1:25:06, 1:25:11]: It would significantly change the vision of the um original cultural art center. [1:25:11, 1:25:13]: as envisioned by the council. [1:25:13, 1:25:20]: Mr. Wall is here. Uh, he's our financial advisor, and he provided uh a letter to you about potential funding. [1:25:21, 1:25:27]: Um, if the council is inclined to move forward with um an additional four million dollars for the project. [1:25:27, 1:25:31]: Also, along with the information provided, were term sheets. [1:25:32, 1:25:33]: Of the bonds that were approved. [1:25:34, 1:25:36]: uh by the council a few months ago. [1:25:36, 1:25:42]: And the schedules for payment of those bonds using a combination. [1:25:42, 1:25:45]: Of general find and splost. [1:25:46, 1:25:46]: Five. [1:25:47, 1:25:50]: I'm going to share my screen because I want to run through [1:25:51, 1:25:55]: Um a brief presentation, if that's all right, with council. [1:25:55, 1:26:01]: Um for councils and the public's um sake who are watching here. [1:26:08, 1:26:10]: All right. Can everybody see the screen? Okay. [1:26:10, 1:26:12]: Yes, we got it, sir. Okay. All right. [1:26:14, 1:26:23]: I always like to start with a vision and mission statements to be the most progressive and fan business and family-oriented community in Metro Atlanta with a focus on enhanced quality of life initiatives. [1:26:23, 1:26:26]: Which promote a sustainable live work and play environment. [1:26:26, 1:26:33]: Also our acronym of Peace are values, professionalism, excellence, adaptability, communication, and ethics. [1:26:34, 1:26:36]: Go through a couple of things here. [1:26:36, 1:26:38]: Uh general fund fund balance. [1:26:38, 1:26:45]: Um, is right at 14 million dollars. I want to be clear about this. This is based on [1:26:45, 1:26:48]: Some una uh unaudited um [1:26:48, 1:26:48]: Uh [1:26:49, 1:26:51]: information that's provided by auditor. It won't be official. [1:26:52, 1:26:58]: until well until June, until they go through all of the final documents. But this provides a pretty good snapshot in time. [1:26:59, 1:27:03]: of those uh funds and where our actual fund balance [1:27:04, 1:27:07]: Would stand as it relates to today. [1:27:07, 1:27:10]: The the only actual um [1:27:10, 1:27:14]: Uh item we have for fund balance was from the twenty nineteen. [1:27:14, 1:27:16]: Audit the twenty nineteen audit. [1:27:17, 1:27:20]: They're completing the twenty twenty audit, which would be [1:27:20, 1:27:23]: At the end of the year, twelve thirty one at the end of the year. [1:27:24, 1:27:30]: Based on the information they've been able to provide us thus far, and based on some commitments that uh we're aware of. [1:27:31, 1:27:33]: as it relates to use of fund balance. [1:27:33, 1:27:37]: This is the number that has been determined and I had this conversation with [1:27:38, 1:27:43]: Uh my treasurer and an auditor, uh Hope Pendergrass earlier um uh or had this conversation with them. [1:27:43, 1:27:49]: about trying to get a realistic number for fund balance for the purposes of this conversation. [1:27:49, 1:27:52]: That does not include two point two million dollars in assets. [1:27:53, 1:27:54]: For instance, though [1:27:54, 1:28:02]: We know that there are funds out there that'll be used in 2021 from fund balance, but they haven't been used yet, for instance. [1:28:03, 1:28:04]: Are ill made. [1:28:05, 1:28:07]: Twenty twenty roads projects. [1:28:07, 1:28:13]: Council approved using fund balance for those projects. It's about seven hundred thousand dollars. It has not have not been expended. [1:28:14, 1:28:18]: But it's gonna come out of fund balance and I know that it's gonna come out in twenty twenty one. [1:28:19, 1:28:25]: But it has not been expended yet, but we know that's a commitment. And so we wanted to factor that in. [1:28:26, 1:28:28]: And so to try to get a realistic picture. [1:28:29, 1:28:30]: Aware fund balance. [1:28:31, 1:28:31]: Withstand. [1:28:34, 1:28:44]: Our net position. This is overall net position. There was a question about that. Um actually it's a little bit more than ninety-two million dollars is overall net position, but that includes building properties, capital assets. [1:28:44, 1:28:50]: Basically everything in terms of overall net position of the city, that does not include the amphitheater. [1:28:51, 1:28:55]: But that's overall net position in terms of all of these ass assets. [1:28:55, 1:28:57]: Infrastructure items and so forth. [1:28:59, 1:29:01]: This is the other general funds that we have. [1:29:02, 1:29:05]: And then I've got there in capital assets, you'll see. [1:29:07, 1:29:15]: Move that around. Water and sewer fund, those are capital assets. 22 million, stormwater, two million, solid waste, 1.25, Meral Manners, 2.3. [1:29:15, 1:29:21]: Um the uh test recording building two uh six forty nine, those are the capital assets that we have. [1:29:22, 1:29:23]: And the column to the right. [1:29:24, 1:29:29]: Um we see water and suitfront two point one six six forty seven, one point one one eighty three eighty one. [1:29:30, 1:29:35]: Those are essentially cash or or um funds that are a part of [1:29:36, 1:29:38]: Those essentially those enterprise funds. [1:29:38, 1:29:44]: But it is recommended that we leave those funds there to be able to take care of those particular items. [1:29:44, 1:29:46]: from which they have been generated. [1:29:57, 1:29:59]: Well, something happened. Oh, there we go. [1:30:00, 1:30:02]: All right. There we go. Sorry about that. [1:30:03, 1:30:05]: All right. This is from Splost Five. [1:30:06, 1:30:08]: Wanna to put this item up again? [1:30:09, 1:30:10]: It's plastic five. [1:30:10, 1:30:14]: Lost five civic projects nine point eight million, road projects four point seven. [1:30:16, 1:30:18]: Park improvements one point two. [1:30:20, 1:30:26]: Remember out of Splas five, it's twenty point five million dollars total. Remember, out of the bond issuance. [1:30:27, 1:30:31]: Nine point eight million dollars for civic projects is devoted to help pay back the bonds. [1:30:31, 1:30:35]: It was also 500,000 from roads and 500,000 from parks. [1:30:35, 1:30:36]: Portrayals. [1:30:38, 1:30:41]: So that's part of splas five bond commitments. [1:30:41, 1:30:47]: Wanted to mention again kind of this the story of how we got here. We had a rough plan concept in twenty eighteen. [1:30:48, 1:30:50]: And another wish list content to twenty nineteen. [1:30:50, 1:30:56]: Then in a reduced program plan we were discussing in 2020 of the um cultural arts center project. [1:30:57, 1:31:02]: Also, this is the current iteration of where we are in terms of a 320 seat ballroom. [1:31:03, 1:31:06]: Three hundred and twenty uh seat ampathe or excuse me, theater. [1:31:07, 1:31:11]: Um which includes um obviously meeting rooms. [1:31:11, 1:31:17]: um includes a museum, includes other rooms for culinary arts, ballet, etc. [1:31:20, 1:31:23]: This is the renderings of the outside of the cultural arts center. [1:31:24, 1:31:26]: Sideview cultural arts center. [1:31:26, 1:31:31]: Again, some other renderings of the outer scope of the cultural arts center. [1:31:31, 1:31:32]: Um as well. [1:31:34, 1:31:43]: I would mention again, um Mr. Wall is here. We provided the bond documents again of what the commitments are as it relates to the bonding of projects. [1:31:44, 1:31:51]: $14 million for Cultural Arts Center as a part of the original bond that was approved. Seven million dollars for the amphitheater. [1:31:52, 1:31:55]: One milyen dollars for um trails. [1:31:55, 1:31:58]: And then three million dollars for the police starting. [1:31:59, 1:32:01]: Okay, that was approved by the council. [1:32:02, 1:32:04]: The term sheets were shared with you. [1:32:05, 1:32:09]: Um, of how all of those plan to be paid back again, as I mentioned, via Splost Five. [1:32:10, 1:32:14]: And also via general fund payback starting in August. [1:32:14, 1:32:15]: Twenty twenty two. [1:32:16, 1:32:18]: If the council wants to entertain [1:32:19, 1:32:21]: Uh uh um [1:32:21, 1:32:23]: Committing to an additional four million dollars. [1:32:24, 1:32:28]: For the Cultural Arts Center project, as Mr. Wall stated in his letter last week. [1:32:29, 1:32:32]: This recommendation is to um [1:32:32, 1:32:35]: Not you not bond at this point in time, not bond. [1:32:36, 1:32:38]: But because we have a very healthy fund balance. [1:32:40, 1:32:42]: That the fund balance would be what would be used [1:32:43, 1:32:43]: Four [1:32:44, 1:32:47]: the uh additional four million dollars for the cultural arts center project. [1:32:48, 1:32:52]: Now the other thing I do want to mention, which is relevant to the discussion, is [1:32:52, 1:32:53]: The [1:32:54, 1:32:57]: Best case scenario, if we were to start a [1:32:57, 1:33:01]: A ground have a groundbreaking at the end of this year for Cultural Arts Center. [1:33:02, 1:33:06]: Obviously the$14 million that has already been committed would be expended first. [1:33:06, 1:33:10]: And then by the time the additional four million dollars would need to be expended. [1:33:11, 1:33:13]: That would be late 2022 more than likely. [1:33:14, 1:33:15]: Early twenty twenty three. [1:33:16, 1:33:25]: Um and so that's where we would stand um with um that particular uh or with those particular payouts if the council is inclined to go to. [1:33:25, 1:33:27]: uh an eighteen million dollar project. [1:33:28, 1:33:35]: I will yield at the moment, Mayor, and ask Mr. Wall if he has any comments. And of course, uh if there are any comments or questions from [1:33:36, 1:33:36]: From the council. [1:33:38, 1:33:44]: Thank you, Mr. Knight. There you go. Mr. Wall, yes, sir, Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Knighton. That was an excellent presentation you had. [1:33:44, 1:33:45]: Um [1:33:45, 1:33:47]: My recommendation to y'all [1:33:47, 1:33:48]: Is that [1:33:48, 1:33:50]: You have a healthy fund balance. [1:33:51, 1:33:53]: And we just two months ago borrowed money. [1:33:54, 1:34:04]: I would like you to use that fund balance and reserve four million of it with the bond issue to let the contract for the Cultural Arts Center for 18 million. [1:34:05, 1:34:10]: A year from now or eighteen months from now, after the fourteen million is gone. [1:34:10, 1:34:20]: when you actually need the four million, we'll we should have more options that we can come up with that four million. Option number one, if T Splos is approved. [1:34:20, 1:34:31]: You no longer need the four million in splosed five because you'll have T-SPLOST for roads, street, and bridges. You could choose to repurpose that four million and splosh specific buildings. [1:34:32, 1:34:33]: Option number two. [1:34:34, 1:34:36]: I could bond it at that point in time. [1:34:36, 1:34:37]: Option number three. [1:34:38, 1:34:45]: revenues could continue to come in greater than what you spend will add to fund balance and you can use fund balance. [1:34:45, 1:34:46]: And so [1:34:46, 1:34:58]: My recommendation to you was not to go borrow the four million now, but wait till you actually had to spend it, but reserve four million of fund balance between now and then so you can let the contract. [1:34:59, 1:35:05]: Well I would say I would tell you, Ms. Wall, I'd like your rec I personally like your recommendation, but we'll see what the rest of the council wants to do with this. [1:35:05, 1:35:06]: Who's first? [1:35:07, 1:35:10]: Mayor Putam, you're you unmuted. Go ahead, sir. [1:35:10, 1:35:16]: All right, thank you so much. Uh and thank you guys. Thank you both for doing an excellent job coming up with the data. [1:35:17, 1:35:25]: With the facts in terms of what um the city's position is. I I want you I want to kind of take you back down this road. [1:35:25, 1:35:31]: Right now the the number stated was ninety-two million, but the amphitheater is a twenty million dollar project. [1:35:31, 1:35:33]: That puts the city's net position. [1:35:34, 1:35:42]: At 112 million dollars. Okay. That's the net position of the city. Of course, that's all in with what. [1:35:43, 1:35:45]: uh the things that we will want to do. [1:35:45, 1:35:45]: But [1:35:46, 1:35:49]: Uh if you go back to uh the twenty [1:35:49, 1:35:51]: Seventeen, twenty eighteen. [1:35:51, 1:35:52]: Um [1:35:53, 1:35:53]: Portion. [1:35:54, 1:35:56]: Where we were in the cityhood fight. [1:35:56, 1:35:59]: Which we prevailed in and we presented a lot of these data with [1:36:00, 1:36:02]: finances that the city was solid on. [1:36:02, 1:36:04]: And the foundation for why we were able to [1:36:05, 1:36:06]: Uh when that dispute [1:36:06, 1:36:10]: Is because everybody believed in the direction that we were going in. [1:36:11, 1:36:15]: And think about it at that point, the number was said to be in the low eighties, and now [1:36:15, 1:36:20]: All in with the amphitheater. Of course that's not cash. It's all the assets. [1:36:20, 1:36:24]: uh would be nearly a hundred and twelve milyen dollars. [1:36:24, 1:36:33]: Think about it, this council and uh sold the 135 building at 135 North Park Trail for$2.8 million, I believe it was. [1:36:34, 1:36:39]: We have other properties over there in the same business part, which is the north business part. [1:36:40, 1:36:43]: That's two point mi two point two million dollars in assets. [1:36:43, 1:36:49]: When we sell those properties, which they're being marketed by our economic development director, I understand and [1:36:49, 1:36:50]: The city. [1:36:50, 1:36:52]: uh representative. [1:36:52, 1:36:53]: We should net. [1:36:53, 1:37:10]: in excess of two million dollars. Uh so even though it's not the fund balance is not showing up as at 16 million, it's 14 million right now plus 2.2. But in the end, the numbers don't lie. Mr. Wiggins did a preliminary uh assessment. [1:37:10, 1:37:15]: He thought that our surplus would be nearly two point five million dollars for this year. [1:37:15, 1:37:19]: Even if it falls short of that, it's gonna be north of two million. [1:37:19, 1:37:34]: Understanding this, Molden and Jenkins is not finished with the with the uh city audit for this year, but I've been on this council now five years, and each year, right, you know, a month or so before, they would have to give us pretty good numbers. [1:37:34, 1:37:38]: They were very close to where they ended up being. [1:37:38, 1:37:57]: At the final audit. But pretty much now they're reviewing, cross-checking the numbers that they have. They have all the information. But they should, they, they were been able to give us a solid uh or uh assessment. And then the treasurer's been in contact with them over the past few months. They've been able to give us a solid assessment. I follow that number. [1:37:58, 1:38:03]: Because each time I wanted to kind of get something going in or leading into that conversation. [1:38:03, 1:38:05]: And they were able to do that. [1:38:05, 1:38:07]: Uh for us each time. [1:38:07, 1:38:08]: And looking [1:38:09, 1:38:12]: Uh at this particular these fund these funds. [1:38:12, 1:38:15]: Just like we made a decision to move forward with. [1:38:15, 1:38:18]: Uh the main street office that's progress in our city. [1:38:19, 1:38:25]: And that's eighty one thousand dollars in that fund for Ted Strickland, if I'm if I'm correct. Is that correct, Mr. Knight? [1:38:28, 1:38:33]: I thought that's the number that I saw. I'm sorry, for the T at Strickland. You're right. [1:38:35, 1:38:52]: There's$81,000 in cash. I mean in in list. That's right. Right. So as we move forward with that project, there's$81,000 already in the count to move forward to do what we need to do with that particular building. It was correct, it was collected in a fund to move forward with this. [1:38:52, 1:38:59]: Also forward thinking we have four point seven million dollars for roads, streets, and bridges. We know that. [1:38:59, 1:39:03]: President Biden and the Congress are working on a s a large [1:39:03, 1:39:12]: a large infrastructure program. So if we got four point seven million dollars in roads and bridges and trails, all we know that we have that money backed up. [1:39:13, 1:39:27]: And just last week we had nine million dollars plus dollars confirmed. I think Mr. Knighton is the city designee. He's working on working on securing those funds and having those funds arrive because. [1:39:28, 1:39:34]: The Congress cares about you and they care about cities to make sure that we were moving forward on a solid foundation. [1:39:35, 1:39:41]: There are winners and losers uh in the pandemic. The city of Stockbridge in Henry County is a tremendous winner. [1:39:41, 1:39:43]: our revenue actually went up. [1:39:44, 1:39:45]: We're collecting [1:39:45, 1:39:46]: Money. [1:39:46, 1:39:50]: Monies at a higher rate than we anticipated. We didn't lose any revenue. [1:39:51, 1:39:55]: So it with the fact that we didn't lose any revenue. [1:39:55, 1:40:02]: And we have nine million dollars coming uh to be spent. Of course, it has different categories to be spent in. [1:40:02, 1:40:04]: And we're gonna make sure that we follow those. [1:40:04, 1:40:07]: But you know, essential personnel was a part of that. [1:40:07, 1:40:24]: There was uh water and sewer that's a part of that. I think Mr. Knighton, uh we had a discussion where you you said that you thought that we would be able to use uh three hundred thousand dollars of those funds uh for the Carrie May Humboldt Cultural Arts Center uh in terms of the uh paying for that. Is that correct? [1:40:25, 1:40:26]: That's correct, yes. [1:40:27, 1:40:38]: Okay, talk about tell tell the council how were we gonna be able to do that. So this is a pot of money that is coming that we we should we we we believe that we should be able to tap in in terms of a fund that we already have. [1:40:39, 1:40:48]: The American Rescue Plan, which has been approved, already approved, and we've provided information via the state to receive those funds when they become available. [1:40:48, 1:40:52]: We'll provide about nine million dollars to the city of Stockbridge. [1:40:52, 1:41:00]: Specifically, the American Rescue Plan uh expressly talks about water, sewer, and broadband infrastructure specifically. [1:41:01, 1:41:06]: There is still some um instruction coming from the Department of Treasury on how [1:41:06, 1:41:12]: Uh funds can be expended otherwise, but some of it seems to appear to be similar to what the CARES Act funds for. [1:41:13, 1:41:14]: were used for. [1:41:14, 1:41:18]: But also for water sewer infrastructure. So those funds will be coming in. [1:41:18, 1:41:25]: What they call two tranks. Um, you know, get half the funds at one point in time, probably in in summer. [1:41:25, 1:41:28]: And then the other uh half, I think the end of the year, first of next year. [1:41:29, 1:41:30]: is when we'll receive those funds. [1:41:31, 1:41:33]: All right. Thank you, sir. [1:41:33, 1:41:53]: And let me mention this as well in reference to the weekly COVID GMA COVID meeting. Uh good news came out of that simply is that the Treasury Department uh has uh approved and allocated a little over 800 million uh dollars uh for the non-entitlement cities in the state of Georgia, which is roughly uh about five hundred. [1:41:53, 1:42:13]: 15 cities. And there was an announcement made to earlier today during the conference call. And then there is a webinar that's set for tomorrow at four o'clock where they're gonna expand this. They're gonna talk about this even further. So the funds are coming. It's a good news story for our ourselves and other cities in the state of Georgia. And and [1:42:13, 1:42:19]: And the state of Georgia is going to be a total winner in all this as well. I'll move on here. Uh Councilman Thomas, you're unmuted, sir. [1:42:19, 1:42:20]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:42:21, 1:42:27]: I just want to concur with the Mayor Pro Tem uh uh assessment. [1:42:27, 1:42:29]: Uh I concur with [1:42:30, 1:42:33]: uh the future vision that he just laid out and [1:42:33, 1:42:53]: But what I wanted to, well, first let me just thank Mr. Mr. Mr. Walls. He always comes when we need him, when we ask him. And uh he does a great job in laying that out for us. Mr. Walls, I just want to thank you for always uh being there with us and being honest with us and laying [1:42:53, 1:42:55]: out the facts. I really appreciate that. [1:42:55, 1:43:07]: Uh Mr. Knight, we we thank you for your due diligence. I know we have tasked you to lay this out for us so we can actually see it. And I just thank you all and appreciate that. [1:43:07, 1:43:12]: But what I want to share with the council and and and it dawned on me just a minute ago. [1:43:12, 1:43:15]: Uh Mr. Nay, when you read the [1:43:15, 1:43:16]: Virgin [1:43:17, 1:43:19]: And the mission statement. [1:43:19, 1:43:27]: And I think we are a uh a vision visionary leaders here, and I think we exemplify [1:43:27, 1:43:29]: uh that leadership. [1:43:29, 1:43:31]: And I think we we have to continue. [1:43:32, 1:43:34]: uh to be able to do that. [1:43:35, 1:43:38]: Also in our mission statement, it talks about [1:43:38, 1:43:40]: Services [1:43:40, 1:43:42]: That enhanced [1:43:42, 1:43:44]: The quality of life [1:43:44, 1:43:46]: For all citizens. [1:43:46, 1:43:53]: And and I think this is in the forefront. Everything that we do, I think we have to continue to [1:43:53, 1:44:13]: uh provide that quality of life for all of our citizens. And I think with this endeavor, the amphitheater, the cultural arts, trails, public safety, youth and senior facilities, I think this is the groundwork that we are laying um to enhance the quality of [1:44:13, 1:44:20]: life for all citizen. And then also in the mission statement, we talked about tourism. [1:44:20, 1:44:22]: And cultural events. [1:44:23, 1:44:30]: It is stated in our mission statement. So all of these things fall in, but let me just continue by saying. [1:44:31, 1:44:34]: You know, we we always talk about [1:44:34, 1:44:35]: Um [1:44:35, 1:44:37]: Our destiny is [1:44:37, 1:44:40]: А вибрант сі. [1:44:40, 1:44:44]: Uh moving forward for a robust downtown. [1:44:45, 1:44:48]: These things does not happen. [1:44:48, 1:44:50]: Байсел. [1:44:51, 1:44:54]: We have to be aggressive enough. [1:44:55, 1:44:56]: To reach for that. [1:44:57, 1:45:00]: It does not happen by itself. [1:45:00, 1:45:02]: The cultural art [1:45:02, 1:45:05]: Facility has been on the table for six years. [1:45:06, 1:45:08]: And you know, we have been waiting. [1:45:08, 1:45:11]: And and waited for what? Um [1:45:11, 1:45:12]: The future. [1:45:13, 1:45:15]: Your destiny, it doesn't wait. [1:45:15, 1:45:22]: You have to go out there and make it happen. So I just appreciate this council moving forward because this is what we are doing. [1:45:23, 1:45:24]: We are річен. [1:45:25, 1:45:26]: For that [1:45:26, 1:45:36]: uh a vibrant city, that robust downtown. We're working toward that. We're reaching for that. Because like I say, it doesn't happen by itself. [1:45:37, 1:45:53]: We have to take that step and work toward that to make this a success. And I think with these things that we talked about and the things that uh Mayor Pro Tem just laid out and all of these uh capital projects that we have talked about. [1:45:54, 1:45:56]: This is this is us reaching. [1:45:57, 1:46:01]: And trying to make Stockbridge that city. [1:46:01, 1:46:03]: That we all envision. [1:46:03, 1:46:09]: this quality of life that we are trying to provide for all of our citizens. [1:46:09, 1:46:17]: Public safety, uh, better schools. Because we know that when businesses come into the city of Stockbridge and we try to lay out that welcome at. [1:46:18, 1:46:38]: They want to make sure, and you know, we we talked about crime here recently. We want to ensure these businesses that we have their best at heart of what we're trying to provide. And I just want to share that, but again, Mr. Knight, Mr. Wall, Mayor Pro Tem, I just want to thank you for articulating that vision. [1:46:38, 1:46:42]: digit of the future. But I just want to encourage our council. [1:46:42, 1:46:46]: It is there. Our destiny is there. [1:46:46, 1:46:50]: But we have to go for it. We have to reach for it. It's not gonna come to us. [1:46:51, 1:46:56]: We have to work toward making these things happen. And it has been laid out. [1:46:57, 1:46:59]: But we have to work. [1:46:59, 1:47:06]: We have to go forward. We have to make it happen. And I just encourage us, let's make it happen. [1:47:07, 1:47:09]: Let's create this vibrant. [1:47:09, 1:47:13]: city that we talked about, this uh robust downtown. [1:47:14, 1:47:34]: Let's do it. Let's go for it. Mayor, I just want to thank this council and I just hope that we can get past uh you know this tonight so that uh TSW can move forward and we can be about uh the other business of this city in increasing and in moving forward with this virtual. [1:47:34, 1:47:37]: City that we always talked about. Our destiny [1:47:38, 1:47:41]: And our future, it is that waiting on us to make the move. [1:47:41, 1:47:43]: Thank you, and I yield back, Mayor. [1:47:43, 1:47:45]: Okay. Councilwoman Gann, go ahead, please. [1:47:47, 1:47:48]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:47:49, 1:47:49]: Um [1:47:50, 1:47:59]: Mayor and Council, I think we have all agreed that we love the design we we love the original design. We didn't want a shortchange for the art center. [1:48:00, 1:48:04]: Um that's first and foremost, but I am concerned about [1:48:04, 1:48:07]: financials. I have a lot of questions in regards to [1:48:08, 1:48:10]: The n nine million dollars that is coming in from [1:48:11, 1:48:15]: the federal government and what it can be applied to and for. [1:48:15, 1:48:18]: Um, I still have some questions in regards to that. [1:48:18, 1:48:25]: I am all for the art center. And I've always said that. I said that last time we had a meeting. [1:48:26, 1:48:30]: Um, but I'm not for spending out of our fund balance. [1:48:30, 1:48:31]: Um [1:48:31, 1:48:32]: The [1:48:32, 1:48:44]: additional amount of money until I know that it's gonna be covered by something else, such as the T splass. And once the T-SPLOST pass, which it should, at least I hope. [1:48:45, 1:48:50]: Then I would be more susceptible to saying, okay, let's go ahead. [1:48:50, 1:48:51]: And [1:48:51, 1:48:57]: spend you know we can go ahead and spend additional funds or find funding for the art center. [1:48:57, 1:49:06]: I'm not against the art center. I want the art center. It's the next thing on our list. It's our part of our plan. Um, I just want to make sure. [1:49:06, 1:49:09]: that all costs are covered. Um [1:49:10, 1:49:12]: Mayor Pro Tem Oxander did mention. [1:49:13, 1:49:17]: that we had a um ninety two mil [1:49:19, 1:49:26]: Balance. That's true, but not true. Um, we have assets, which they did a presentation on. [1:49:26, 1:49:40]: that basically is our buildings. Those are things that are not liquid. That's not cash. That's not something we can spend. It's buildings. And we bonded out a lot of money right now. Um I just want to make sure that we're covered first. [1:49:40, 1:49:41]: Um [1:49:41, 1:49:47]: It makes sense to move and it and it will make sense to move forward. If that nine million can [1:49:47, 1:49:56]: Help alleviate whether it was some of the police services we're talking about when we talk about we might have to tax our citizens, whether it is um. [1:49:57, 1:50:00]: The um art center and [1:50:00, 1:50:03]: operating it. Now we have a cost of [1:50:03, 1:50:05]: Right now, what is it? 18 million. [1:50:06, 1:50:07]: Projected. [1:50:08, 1:50:11]: But we also had a projection cost for our amphitheater. [1:50:11, 1:50:12]: So [1:50:12, 1:50:14]: Take into consideration [1:50:14, 1:50:15]: Incidentals. [1:50:16, 1:50:16]: Um [1:50:17, 1:50:18]: Think that [1:50:19, 1:50:35]: one that we may not know will come up, um, upgrades if need be or or different things that happen during construction, which we see each and every day. We just we have to vote on it even at this meeting tonight. And so I I ask you to be smart about this. [1:50:36, 1:50:45]: I'm not it it won't cause a delay. The project is still moving forward. They're working on the design and working on things even now. [1:50:45, 1:50:58]: But let's make sure that we have all of the funding. If we can transfer the the when we get T Splash and we can move those projects from the budget and then reallocate funds, that would be awesome. [1:50:59, 1:51:06]: It would be, but we don't have a ninety two million dollars just sitting around. We don't. Those are those are buildings. [1:51:08, 1:51:10]: Um, and I want us to be realistic about it. [1:51:11, 1:51:13]: I want us to be responsible. [1:51:14, 1:51:25]: And I join my colleagues in welcoming this art center. I can't wait for it to happen. But I wanna be financially and physically responsible when it does happen. [1:51:25, 1:51:44]: And I still think it's gonna happen on time. I don't think it's gonna be delayed. I think that once the the teeth was or you know funds are allocated in that way, or if we can reallocate funds and we can spend on some other things with that nine million dollars, I would be fine with that, but I haven't gotten that answer yet. [1:51:45, 1:51:53]: That is what ifs and possibilities. As soon as one of them passes or as soon as we know we can spend or change, I'm all for it. [1:51:54, 1:51:54]: Thank you. [1:51:55, 1:51:57]: Councilman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:51:58, 1:52:05]: Thank you, Mirror. Um yeah, I did listen to that call um as they talked about ARPA. [1:52:05, 1:52:11]: And one of the things that it mentioned um covering was stormwater and infrastructure. [1:52:11, 1:52:11]: Um [1:52:12, 1:52:20]: So with the nine million dollars that the city is projected to receive, I know currently in our stormwater. [1:52:21, 1:52:24]: budget or account, there's about eight million dollars. [1:52:24, 1:52:25]: So [1:52:26, 1:52:36]: any projects that are already allocated with the city using the stormwater account, we should be able to replace it. [1:52:36, 1:52:37]: Oh. [1:52:37, 1:52:44]: we should be able to use some of the funds from the stormwater account and replace it with ARPA. [1:52:44, 1:52:47]: Am I correct, Mr. Knighton in my thinking? [1:52:49, 1:52:58]: Considering that those funds, the nine million dollars that the city is projected to receive, covers stormwater and infrastructure improvements. [1:52:58, 1:53:09]: Right, right. Water water and sewer were explicitly mentioned and then the Treasury Department has talked about stormwater, things like that could be used out of the nine million dollars that we'll receive. That is correct. [1:53:10, 1:53:18]: Okay, so currently, Mr. Wiggins, um, do we currently have eight million dollars that's in our stormwater account? [1:53:20, 1:53:21]: Yes, um [1:53:22, 1:53:25]: But it's not all it's it's not all cash though. [1:53:25, 1:53:40]: When you say fund fund balance is not always cash. So some of that is uh is is is part of the um infrastructure, which is the um uh capital assets associated with stormwater. [1:53:40, 1:53:42]: So it's all not cash. [1:53:42, 1:53:47]: think it's about half of it is cash. About half of it is half of it would be cash. So you like [1:53:47, 1:53:51]: It's still four million dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. [1:53:51, 1:53:59]: I know that uh Mayor Pearl Tim also mentioned the sale of some property off of North Park or Park North. [1:54:00, 1:54:03]: Whichever one. Um, I know that that also [1:54:04, 1:54:04]: The [1:54:05, 1:54:05]: Um [1:54:06, 1:54:11]: The funds that we received from that sale, did it go into our fund balance, Mr. Knighton? [1:54:13, 1:54:17]: I think Mayor Pro Tem was was referring to property that we still have. [1:54:17, 1:54:28]: Okay, what about property that was sold recently? Right. The previous right previous property that was sold some years ago. Yes, essentially that's a that's a part of your overall fund balance. Yes. Okay. [1:54:29, 1:54:32]: That did go into our fund balance. That's right. [1:54:33, 1:54:40]: Okay. So I know uh um Keggy Race is also on the line. [1:54:40, 1:54:41]: Um [1:54:41, 1:54:43]: Is he available? [1:54:44, 1:54:45]: Carl is. [1:54:45, 1:54:46]: Carl is there. [1:54:46, 1:54:46]: All right. [1:54:48, 1:54:50]: Oh, there he oh there they're yes. [1:54:51, 1:54:54]: Awesome. Good evening, Mayor and Council. How are you doing? [1:54:54, 1:55:10]: Um one of the things that I was really concerned about is the management of the amphitheater. Um the fact that we went from budgeting 16 million dollars to now 20 million. Um we have to be very careful about managing um. [1:55:10, 1:55:13]: The cost of these capital projects. [1:55:14, 1:55:31]: I understand that there will be unknown and unforeseen things that will happen. But one of the critical things that we have to have in place is an experienced project manager. Kekin Woods has done, I think, a really good job with helping us to manage. [1:55:32, 1:55:42]: the amphitheater. Considering that we are now wanting to um kick into second gear, third year, um with all of our capital projects. [1:55:43, 1:55:47]: Being able to manage multiple capital projects at one time. [1:55:47, 1:55:54]: Is going to require our project manager, which Kekin Woods is now on board, to be able to help us. [1:55:54, 1:55:54]: Um [1:55:55, 1:56:00]: keep our pulse on to on all these major projects. [1:56:00, 1:56:00]: Um [1:56:01, 1:56:08]: I would like to make a motion after uh we uh decide what we're gonna do with the Culture Arts Center. I wanna make a motion. [1:56:08, 1:56:17]: Um, in regards to capital lives, um, ensuring that they take the lead on all of our capital projects right now, including um [1:56:17, 1:56:26]: The Cultural Arts Center, if that's something we want to move forward with, the master trail plan. Um, I know with the expansion of um [1:56:26, 1:56:29]: East Atlanta Road, Widening and Lee Street. [1:56:29, 1:56:35]: All those major projects we have to have an individual who's designated um to really [1:56:35, 1:56:37]: Keep the council in the known. [1:56:38, 1:56:43]: about the status and what's going on with it. And I think Kekin Woods would be an asset to us. So [1:56:44, 1:56:50]: Um, I do support the Cultural Arts Center. I do think we now have a pathway forward. [1:56:50, 1:56:54]: Realizing that this project is not going to break ground probably. [1:56:55, 1:56:56]: Around this year. [1:56:56, 1:57:00]: We're just right now looking to um [1:57:00, 1:57:02]: Identify the funding source. [1:57:02, 1:57:05]: for this eighteen million dollar project. [1:57:05, 1:57:06]: Is that correct, Mr. Knighton? [1:57:10, 1:57:11]: Um that is correct, yes. [1:57:12, 1:57:12]: All right. [1:57:13, 1:57:14]: Thank you. [1:57:14, 1:57:15]: That's all. [1:57:15, 1:57:17]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [1:57:17, 1:57:21]: Mayor, uh I I was waiting to get in. I everybody spoke except me. [1:57:22, 1:57:22]: Good. [1:57:23, 1:57:28]: Well I I didn't see your hand. I didn't I actually saw a council. [1:57:28, 1:57:31]: Um thanks for recognizing me. I'd like to move forward. [1:57:32, 1:57:33]: With the motion to accept [1:57:34, 1:57:35]: The um [1:57:36, 1:57:38]: Cultural arts facility at the [1:57:38, 1:57:52]: Uh eighteen. Uh mayor point of order, mayor. Well stand by. He's making a motion. Well well the point of order, mayor. If I had my hands up this before the motion, I told you I didn't see you. I saw him first. I'm trying to keep order here. [1:57:53, 1:57:54]: Go ahead, Casman Thomas. [1:57:55, 1:57:57]: Let me reiterate my motion. I I move [1:57:58, 1:57:59]: That we [1:57:59, 1:58:03]: accept and move forward with the culture art facility. [1:58:04, 1:58:06]: At the eighteen million dollar level. [1:58:07, 1:58:16]: Uh, I believe that is the issue at hand. Uh, Mr. Knight, if I'm incorrect, uh, would you please correct me uh for the proper motion? [1:58:20, 1:58:24]: Councilman, I think that's the question that we're looking for here, it was uh whether or not the council [1:58:25, 1:58:31]: I wanted to move from the fourteen million dollars to the eighteen million dollars. And so I think that motion in and of itself would be in order. [1:58:32, 1:58:35]: To the fact that my motion [1:58:35, 1:58:42]: Yeah, I'd like to issue a second and then I'd like to ask the councilman Thomas to add Kekinwood as the project manager on the motion. [1:58:44, 1:58:45]: Mayor Four, if I may. [1:58:47, 1:58:50]: Go ahead, sir. Mayor Ford, if I may. [1:58:50, 1:58:53]: I like to add to my motion. [1:58:53, 1:58:57]: That Kekken would be the uh designated [1:58:57, 1:58:59]: Project manager. [1:58:59, 1:59:03]: on this uh particular project and hopefully [1:59:03, 1:59:04]: All of you have a capital project. [1:59:05, 1:59:09]: Seconds. Okay, it's been a second. Now, further discussion, Mr. Blount. [1:59:10, 1:59:15]: Yeah. Um I want to say is is Mr. Wall still on here? Yes. [1:59:17, 1:59:23]: Uh one of the things I want to look at when I looked at uh what you sent us, Mr. Walls. [1:59:24, 1:59:29]: Um when we when I got on this council back in twenty sixteen. [1:59:30, 1:59:31]: We labeled [1:59:32, 1:59:34]: priorities on what we wanted to do with this city. [1:59:35, 1:59:39]: And in those priority, one of the top things that we put on there was the police department. [1:59:41, 1:59:47]: Because this was extension of of what we was trying to do when we said we need to build this amphitheater. [1:59:48, 1:59:50]: was a police department. [1:59:50, 2:00:01]: And so Mr. Wall, from the paperwork that you sent us with that four million added, because you're looking at$9.8 uh million dollars in bonds that would be paid back by SPOP SPLOSS. [2:00:01, 2:00:05]: was released fifteen point two, but if you add that four, you're talking about uh [2:00:06, 2:00:11]: about nineteen point two million dollars, which now because the eighteen million dollars for the culture art center. [2:00:12, 2:00:19]: When this council came together and we talked about what's best for the city, we we put public safety. [2:00:19, 2:00:20]: In a position [2:00:20, 2:00:26]: Not in a position where we we're built we we're not even in completion of an amphitheater. [2:00:27, 2:00:29]: We haven't opened the doors of the amphitheater. [2:00:30, 2:00:33]: Yes, still what's the priority to this council? [2:00:34, 2:00:36]: is an eighteen million dollar cultural art center. [2:00:37, 2:00:39]: And one of the things that [2:00:39, 2:00:41]: Given by Mr. Walls [2:00:41, 2:00:45]: If we was to start a police department right now. [2:00:46, 2:00:48]: With the millions of that we've already bonded. [2:00:49, 2:00:56]: It will be a strain on us to sustain one, yet we're still as this council moving forward, we're hiring a police chief. [2:00:56, 2:01:02]: For how long? Because we're not focused on public safety right now. We're focused on the cultural arts center. [2:01:02, 2:01:08]: I raise my hand in motion that we name this cultural arts center Kerry Mae Hamburg officially. [2:01:09, 2:01:10]: I did that. [2:01:10, 2:01:12]: And it and it passed. [2:01:12, 2:01:15]: But when this council sits here and we talk about public safety. [2:01:16, 2:01:30]: But yet still we're putting an amphitheater and a cultural art center before public safety. And now we're ready to say, hey, can we take the money from uh uh uh public works? Can we take the money from here? We're making the cultural art center work. [2:01:32, 2:01:37]: But Ed Walls, our financial advisors, told us with everything that all these expenditures. [2:01:38, 2:01:46]: It would be a strain on the city of Stockbridge to start a police department and sustain it without the implementation of a tax. [2:01:47, 2:01:56]: Now, if this is what our financial advisor is telling us, why are we moving forward without strategizing and making sure we have proper funds in place? [2:01:57, 2:02:11]: to do the things was best for the citizens, in my opinion, is to look forward to what we've already said we wanted to do and what was important was a public s was public safety and starting our own police department. So what we're about to do now is hire a police chief. [2:02:12, 2:02:14]: That's gonna sit here for how long? [2:02:15, 2:02:35]: How laughable is that? How long would a police chief sit here? Mr. Wall, I would like for you to home in because one of the things that you referenced in what you gave us is the strain that will be put on this city because only$9.8 million is going to be paid in bonds. We as elected officials can talk about all about what can [2:02:35, 2:02:43]: Can and can't do, but we hire you to show us a path, a clean path on paying these expenditures and starting a police department. [2:02:43, 2:02:47]: So how can we do that? Because we ask that this be brought to us. [2:02:49, 2:02:51]: So uh Councilman Blount, um [2:02:52, 2:02:54]: I'll I'll try to take'em one at a time. So [2:02:55, 2:02:55]: No. [2:02:56, 2:02:59]: When you establish a police department, um [2:03:00, 2:03:05]: There's a millage rate that Henry County currently levies on stock bridge tax digest. [2:03:06, 2:03:08]: that uh generate a set amount of money. [2:03:08, 2:03:11]: Seems like the study that y'all had done. [2:03:11, 2:03:16]: shows that you'll have to add a little bit to that, that you can't do a police force. [2:03:16, 2:03:21]: for exactly the amount of the millage rate that your citizens are currently paying to Henry County. [2:03:22, 2:03:23]: Is that true or false? [2:03:25, 2:03:26]: Do I remember that right? [2:03:26, 2:03:33]: Wouldn't they have to add a little bit extra money to it? Yes. Yes, that is correct. Sure. And so [2:03:33, 2:03:34]: Um [2:03:36, 2:03:43]: The the fifteen million that we borrowed, of which was a a little bit of a portion for um [2:03:43, 2:03:44]: The um [2:03:45, 2:03:48]: the cultural arts, um, you know, the trails. [2:03:48, 2:03:51]: And the seven move amphitheater paid by splots. [2:03:51, 2:03:55]: So the remaining amount that we borrowed for um [2:03:55, 2:03:58]: the uh cultural arts center is having to come from the general fund. [2:03:59, 2:04:03]: And it was a fifteen year issue and seemed like the annual payment was around nine hundred thousand dollars. [2:04:04, 2:04:06]: And so we'll have to [2:04:06, 2:04:09]: bake that into your general fund budget. [2:04:09, 2:04:20]: I fixed it up so that your first payment doesn't come until next fiscal year. Remember we capitalize interest. So next fiscal year when you do your budget, you'll have to add nine hundred thousand for the cultural arts. [2:04:21, 2:04:22]: You'll need to add [2:04:22, 2:04:24]: Whatever you're gonna add for the police. [2:04:25, 2:04:25]: Um [2:04:25, 2:04:26]: And um [2:04:27, 2:04:41]: Uh if you borrow this four million dollars, that'll add another$350,000. But what I had hoped that you could do is find the$4 million elsewhere and not actually use fund balance and not have to borrow it. That would be my hope. [2:04:41, 2:04:46]: Is that you would find the four million some other place? Uh Councilman Gantt made a good point. [2:04:47, 2:04:48]: That she [2:04:49, 2:05:04]: might not want to actually vote for it until we actually identify the four million instead of say here are the places it could come from. She wants to know exactly where it comes from before she votes. And I and I understand that that would be a very conservative way to approach it. But um [2:05:04, 2:05:07]: Mr Knighton asked me for my advice to you that [2:05:08, 2:05:28]: I didn't want you to borrow the four million dollars today. If you all choose to do a eighteen million dollar cultural arts center and you're four million short, I didn't want you to do the four million dollars today because I think the four million can come from other places. To borrow the four million, you know, you're gonna pay a hundred thousand dollars in upfront issuance costs to borrow it and [2:05:28, 2:05:34]: That's money you wouldn't get back if you paid the four million dollars off early. And so um [2:05:34, 2:05:39]: I I I do believe that that with the police department coming on [2:05:39, 2:05:44]: The operations of the amphitheater and the operations of the cultural art center. [2:05:44, 2:05:46]: You're gonna have pressure on your general fund budget. [2:05:47, 2:05:53]: Well, th I I appreciate that, Ms. Wall. Let me just say this real quick before I before you all move forward. [2:05:54, 2:05:55]: Um [2:05:56, 2:05:58]: When we was fighting for our city. [2:05:59, 2:06:01]: When we looked at the finances and fought for our city. [2:06:03, 2:06:06]: There was a person that that had a desire to [2:06:06, 2:06:08]: Fight for our city because their concerns. [2:06:09, 2:06:11]: We're about the future stock bridge. [2:06:12, 2:06:14]: So many people shed it tears. [2:06:15, 2:06:18]: Because they was concerned about the future stop bridge. [2:06:19, 2:06:21]: When we start to raise our hands. [2:06:23, 2:06:25]: And start to spend make expenditures. [2:06:26, 2:06:27]: Without a clear path. [2:06:28, 2:06:31]: to what those future expenditures, how they would be paid. [2:06:31, 2:06:38]: This is why I supported those that were so concerned about our city. And I've seen many shed tears. [2:06:38, 2:06:46]: This is putting our city in the blind. We do not put our city in a position to raise taxes to get what we need. [2:06:46, 2:06:56]: for public safety versus going to those citizens first and letting them know this is the plans of the city, have the town hall meetings and do it, but we're gonna hire [2:06:57, 2:06:58]: A police chief. [2:06:58, 2:07:01]: So we'll have a police chief on an unspecified time. [2:07:02, 2:07:03]: Because this council right now [2:07:05, 2:07:08]: In a blink of an eye, say, Hey, let's go ahead and add four more million dollars. [2:07:09, 2:07:10]: On this culture art center. [2:07:12, 2:07:18]: And so now what went what was twenty five million dollar bonds, we're talking about now total twenty four million. [2:07:18, 2:07:23]: Which now gonna put the city in a po place of nineteen point two million dollars to pay back. [2:07:25, 2:07:28]: And so now we're talking about no clear path financially. [2:07:29, 2:07:30]: By our financial advisor. [2:07:31, 2:07:35]: Every council member can speak on here, but we pay people to give us information. [2:07:36, 2:07:37]: So tonight [2:07:38, 2:07:40]: What this council is going to do. [2:07:41, 2:07:43]: Is approved eighteen milyen dollars. [2:07:44, 2:07:45]: For culture arson. [2:07:46, 2:07:50]: Which now the expenditure can go high as it can go, whatever wherever it goes. [2:07:50, 2:07:55]: We just spent a twenty plus million dollar amphitheater that hadn't even opened yet. [2:07:56, 2:08:05]: We're gonna hire a police chief without even a clear path to how we're gonna start a police department and how we're gonna fund it and sustainability. Our finance advisor told us that. [2:08:06, 2:08:13]: It would be hard to sustain one with the decisions we've already made and the obligations we've already committed ourselves to. [2:08:14, 2:08:16]: So when we raise our hand to approve. [2:08:17, 2:08:19]: This eighteen milyen dollars, remember. [2:08:20, 2:08:21]: The citizens are watching. [2:08:22, 2:08:34]: And I would hope that they would get involved with what's going on here because when I when I ran for office, I ran to be good stewards of the taxpayers' money. And when we were raising our hands in the blind without even having a clear path. [2:08:34, 2:08:43]: Even to public safety right now. No clear path of how we would how we would create or the monies would come to create it and sustain it, but we can raise. [2:08:43, 2:08:44]: Four million dollars for [2:08:45, 2:08:46]: Extra, let's do it. [2:08:47, 2:08:48]: And that's all it takes. [2:08:49, 2:08:51]: Where are we at when it comes to [2:08:52, 2:08:53]: When we talk about communities. [2:08:54, 2:08:56]: When we talk about expenditures. [2:08:57, 2:08:59]: I think public safety should have been top of the list. [2:09:00, 2:09:04]: I want to culture our center like anybody else. Why are we Russian? [2:09:04, 2:09:09]: And that's the exact same thing our uh financial advisor saying. We don't have to rush into this. [2:09:09, 2:09:19]: Let's get some solid numbers. One of the things Council Woman Barber has always been saying put it on paper right. Point of order. Point of order. Mr. Alexander, I'll let you talk as long as you want to talk. [2:09:20, 2:09:35]: And I and I expect that same respect. You ask for point Alexander, I let you talk as long as you want to talk. And I want that same point of order time. The time. We have two minutes, two time to speak. And we have a five-minute rule. American Pro Tem I got this. Councilman Blanc, go ahead, please. [2:09:35, 2:09:36]: Finish his c his statement. [2:09:37, 2:09:41]: One of the things that I'm gonna say right now, and I will be finished. [2:09:42, 2:09:46]: Is that when this council started to move and talk about what's better for the community? [2:09:47, 2:09:54]: Look into your own hearts and say, is this really needed right now without a clear path on what was gonna start to get public safety? [2:09:55, 2:10:04]: To start our own, but if if we would do what we're doing for this cultural arts center for a public, for our uh to start a police department, we would definitely be on the right track. [2:10:05, 2:10:08]: But we want to start we want to spend all these millions. [2:10:08, 2:10:10]: and bond without a clear path. [2:10:10, 2:10:13]: Фома коч фромал фінанс адвізор. [2:10:13, 2:10:14]: Telling us. [2:10:16, 2:10:19]: Telling us that we don't need to move on it right now. He's told us this. [2:10:21, 2:10:23]: And he's reiterated that tonight. [2:10:24, 2:10:25]: But we're gonna make it happen. [2:10:26, 2:10:36]: And now there's not a clear path to starting the police department without what he just said, implementing a tax and with going about it the wrong way and transparency to the citizens. [2:10:36, 2:10:50]: is to go to the citizens first, have the town halls and let them know, not burn all that we're doing and put a strain. These are the words from our financial advisor, put a strain on us to do other things like starting the police department. [2:10:51, 2:10:53]: Councilman Barber, go ahead, please. [2:10:58, 2:11:10]: I think Mayor Pro Tem had his hand up first. All right. If you say so, go ahead. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Yes, sir. Let me just chime in and honestly say the first thing that this council bunded. [2:11:10, 2:11:14]: Was three milyen dollars for the police department. It's number one. [2:11:15, 2:11:15]: We did not. [2:11:16, 2:11:19]: prove any bond until we bonded that public safety. [2:11:20, 2:11:40]: This council charged the city manager with hiring a police chief, which we will do now. There's nothing gonna happen right until we get this police department nailed down. That's what we wanted to do first, and that's why we bonded that money first, understanding that we are being good stewards of the citizens' money. I want Mr. [2:11:40, 2:11:45]: Mr. Light and to speak on the facts. The fact is the Georgia Municipal Association. [2:11:46, 2:11:55]: where we attend once a year says twenty-five percent is a baseline for what they look at for a fund balance. We have almost two hundred percent. [2:11:56, 2:12:16]: In our fund balance. So, yes, we could spend the money out of fund balance and still have a$10 million surplus in our budget, nearly 100%. When all of us go to the same class, all of us do for Georgia Municipal Association. And I think that they tell us that. Some cities, what the issue is. [2:12:16, 2:12:23]: Is the reason that the stock bridge got in the condition that it is we haven't spent the money that we need to spend to be best in class? [2:12:23, 2:12:37]: I thank Councilman Alfonso Thomas for having the courage to lead us into the in the direction that we need to go in order to make this project happen. Understand, Mr. Knight, speak on that, on the facts. [2:12:40, 2:12:45]: on the fund balance facts of where we are, the recommendation, and then where we are. [2:12:47, 2:12:54]: Typically, um, for fund balance determination, you want at least three months to four months, basically twenty five percent. [2:12:55, 2:12:58]: Of your overall fund balance, which is considered fairly strong. [2:12:59, 2:13:04]: Obviously with the ex with the um commitments from fund balance. [2:13:05, 2:13:12]: Um, we would be as I mentioned earlier, about fourteen million dollars or so. Our budget is about eleven point five million dollars or so. [2:13:12, 2:13:19]: And so we're just over we're over a hundred percent in terms of uh what we have for fund balance. I mentioned to the council [2:13:20, 2:13:21]: And my correspondence to you. [2:13:22, 2:13:24]: Along with um Mr. Wall. [2:13:24, 2:13:26]: And his recommendations. [2:13:27, 2:13:32]: If this is done, if the council is inclined to to move forward with this in terms of Mr. Wall's recommendation. [2:13:33, 2:13:36]: I would then as we move forward with other projects. [2:13:36, 2:13:41]: want to keep our fund balance where it is at that point, allow it to replenish itself. [2:13:42, 2:13:44]: In order to keep the fund balance strong. [2:13:44, 2:13:51]: Right. Um and so um with that um caution as well, uh I want to make sure I mention that. [2:13:52, 2:13:56]: Um that the fund balance is strong now. We want to keep it strong. [2:13:56, 2:14:00]: But we have commitments out of fund balance that we want to monitor. [2:14:00, 2:14:07]: And make sure that we allow the fund balance to increase and replenish itself before we make any cut other commitments beyond this out of fund balance. [2:14:10, 2:14:11]: All right. Um [2:14:12, 2:14:13]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [2:14:18, 2:14:27]: Um I wanted to make sure that I made the uh motion or asked um Councilman Thomas if he could amend his motion. [2:14:27, 2:14:31]: Because I want to make sure that Kekinwood takes the lead on all of our. [2:14:32, 2:14:33]: capital projects. [2:14:33, 2:14:36]: And they also provide weekly updates. [2:14:36, 2:14:39]: directly to the mayor and council. [2:14:39, 2:14:43]: We have a number of capital projects right now that's [2:14:43, 2:14:44]: Going on. [2:14:44, 2:14:53]: And I think all of us have been just reaching out to Mr. Knight and just randomly asking him what status is. So having a project manager. [2:14:53, 2:14:56]: who'd be able to provide us with those updates regularly. [2:14:57, 2:14:58]: Um okay. [2:14:59, 2:15:00]: Keep us at bay from [2:15:01, 2:15:03]: Stand by a second, please. Miss Holiday. [2:15:03, 2:15:09]: Could you repeat back the motion that's been properly what motion that's been sec properly seconded? What does it actually say? [2:15:10, 2:15:16]: Yes, for the motion um by Councilman Thomas and seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [2:15:17, 2:15:20]: was to approve eight at the eighteen million dollar level. [2:15:21, 2:15:25]: With the project manager designated as Kekin Woods. [2:15:25, 2:15:28]: And it did say with other capital projects, but um [2:15:30, 2:15:32]: Councilwoman Barber is now adding [2:15:32, 2:15:32]: Yeah. [2:15:33, 2:15:34]: It to be amended. [2:15:35, 2:15:36]: to include [2:15:36, 2:15:39]: All of the capital projects and [2:15:39, 2:15:53]: reporting directly to with reports going directly to the mayor and council. Yes. Thomas, is it okay to amend this to ask that Kekkenwood provide weekly updates directly to Mayor and Council? [2:15:54, 2:15:57]: Castle Thomas played. Okay with that. [2:15:58, 2:16:07]: Mayor, if I may. Yeah, go ahead, sir. Go ahead, please. Um, I I did include in the motion that Kekin would be would be the project manager. Right. [2:16:07, 2:16:13]: um weekly uh monthly updates. I I do not have a a problem with that. [2:16:14, 2:16:17]: Um is that something that I need to add to that or [2:16:18, 2:16:21]: Monthly update, is that something that we can just work out? [2:16:22, 2:16:22]: Uh [2:16:22, 2:16:25]: Hello, including the question. [2:16:25, 2:16:32]: Um, because I want to know the status of all the projects. Okay, well, if I may then, Mayor, I'd like to add to my motion. [2:16:33, 2:16:35]: Um that Kek in Woods. [2:16:36, 2:16:37]: provide [2:16:37, 2:16:44]: uh weekly uh monthly i'm not sure which one we want to uh indicate but updates i'm sorry [2:16:45, 2:16:45]: Weekly. [2:16:45, 2:16:47]: Weekly updates. [2:16:47, 2:16:48]: Two [2:16:48, 2:16:51]: The mayor and council report to the mayor and council. [2:16:51, 2:16:53]: The updates. [2:16:53, 2:16:54]: On a weekly basis. [2:16:55, 2:16:56]: Of all [2:16:56, 2:16:58]: Projects, capital projects. [2:16:58, 2:16:59]: Okay. [2:17:00, 2:17:00]: Okay. [2:17:01, 2:17:05]: Even if there is no status or change in it, I still want [2:17:05, 2:17:08]: You know, just to know where we are with the project as all [2:17:08, 2:17:16]: Okay, uh Mr. Mayor I I know Mr. Night wanna respond, but I would like to come back after Mr. Night uh comments. And I know Mr. [2:17:16, 2:17:21]: All right, Mr. Nine, go ahead, please. I know I know Councilman Gann has had her hand up for a while. I don't know if if [2:17:22, 2:17:25]: Well, I was gonna get to her. I'm trying to taste it all over, but go ahead. Okay. All right. [2:17:26, 2:17:35]: I was just gonna simply mention with respect to that, I'm fine with that, of course. Kevin Wood is they provide me with weekly updates of the amphitheater progress. They provide me that every week. That's been a tremendous help. [2:17:36, 2:17:47]: and very detailed. The only thing that I would caution about, well, two things. One is for any current projects that we have, we may have some other project managers like Falcon on a given project. [2:17:47, 2:17:52]: It may have helped with an RFP on that project, therefore they're in intimately involved with that project. [2:17:53, 2:17:56]: And provide that level of of oversight in that regard. [2:17:57, 2:18:01]: Um any other project of course um that we take on it could be with kept and keck and wood. [2:18:01, 2:18:08]: um if if I understand the council's um uh desire in motion. The only th the other thing that I would mention [2:18:08, 2:18:17]: Um, is that um obviously as these projects come on board, Kekken would then being the project manager and again, uh, they've done a very good job with the amphitheater. [2:18:18, 2:18:23]: Um as they as they uh expand their realm, as they expand, for instance the cultural arts center. [2:18:23, 2:18:40]: We may need to look at um I think they're on an hourly right now and so forth. So we'll obviously have to look at the expanse of of their scope as well, but typically those are taken out of the overall project scope. But I just want to mention the monetary aspect of it as well as we continue to move forward with these projects. [2:18:40, 2:18:45]: Uh Mr. Mayor, I I'd like to reclaim my time if I may. Sure. Go ahead, sir. Go ahead. [2:18:45, 2:18:48]: And I and I just wanted to say that um [2:18:49, 2:18:53]: I think all of council members hear from citizens. And let me just say [2:18:53, 2:18:56]: Without a doubt, my heart. [2:18:56, 2:18:58]: And my mind is clear. [2:18:58, 2:19:00]: On the direction that we're going. [2:19:01, 2:19:04]: I hear from citizens all the time. [2:19:04, 2:19:06]: And they commend [2:19:06, 2:19:08]: The leadership of this council. [2:19:08, 2:19:19]: to take these bold steps to make things happen uh in the city of Stargrid. So with that being said, Mayor, I'd like to call for the vote. [2:19:19, 2:19:39]: Well, I appreciate that, but uh there's a couple of things we still need to do. Miss Gantton needs to talk, and I want to try to make sure everybody has a say so. But I want to make sure your motion, your motion was made. Stand by your motion was made, is second by Mayor Pro Temp. But I want to make sure that the clerk has the proper motion. So she can read back the motion, make sure is what you want, and then I'll move on. [2:19:39, 2:19:40]: On to a couple other comments here. [2:19:41, 2:19:41]: Right. [2:19:42, 2:19:50]: Go ahead, Ms. Ms. Okay. Councilman Thomas has made the motion seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Alexander to approve. [2:19:50, 2:19:54]: the culture arts center funding at the eighteen million dollar level. [2:19:55, 2:19:57]: And designating Kekin Wood [2:19:57, 2:20:02]: As the project manager on this project and all other capital projects. [2:20:02, 2:20:05]: And provide weekly updates. [2:20:05, 2:20:08]: on those projects directly to the Bayern Council. [2:20:08, 2:20:15]: All right. That's what you that's what your motion was, Councilmember Thomas. That's what was second. Okay. [2:20:15, 2:20:16]: Councilwoman Gan, go ahead, please. [2:20:18, 2:20:19]: Thank you. [2:20:19, 2:20:21]: Um mayor council and thank you, Mayor. [2:20:24, 2:20:29]: I had a question in regards to I heard some of the ways that we can [2:20:29, 2:20:32]: um possibly have bonds [2:20:33, 2:20:33]: So [2:20:35, 2:20:39]: Um it has been advised by our financial advisor not. [2:20:40, 2:20:48]: to go to the twenty five percent. I know that a lot of times you hear that in GMA that that's the recommendation, but [2:20:48, 2:20:52]: I don't necessarily agree that that is a strong position to have, right? [2:20:52, 2:21:04]: Um, especially with the police services coming on board and a couple other things. And you always hear about cities getting in the red. Um, again, I ask that we are financially responsible. [2:21:04, 2:21:05]: For that. Um [2:21:06, 2:21:17]: Stormwater. I heard a thing about stormwater and I had a question in regards to that. I do believe by law we cannot reallocate stormwater funds. Is that not correct? [2:21:20, 2:21:22]: Can anyone give me an answer to that? [2:21:26, 2:21:33]: I would need to know. Stormwater funds. That's why they have their separate budget. Is that not correct? [2:21:35, 2:21:36]: I believe this is because they're [2:21:37, 2:21:44]: I believe because they're enterprise funds, they need to be used for stormwater purposes. You you couldn't use them, you know, build a baseball field. [2:21:45, 2:21:47]: So let me make this very clear. [2:21:48, 2:22:00]: We do have funds in certain positions, certain state places, but they can't be reallocated. We can't use those funds, particularly with stormwater. We can't transfer those funds. [2:22:00, 2:22:03]: over for another purpose and use. [2:22:03, 2:22:12]: And I believe it, and I read something about it in regards to taxes and different things of that nature. And you guys can find that on some of the GMA handbooks if you would like. [2:22:12, 2:22:13]: Um [2:22:13, 2:22:18]: I also want to let you know that again [2:22:18, 2:22:21]: I think we all have agreed we all are in favor of [2:22:22, 2:22:23]: This project. [2:22:24, 2:22:29]: I we've already voted to bond the fourteen million dollars. I said, let's get started. [2:22:29, 2:22:33]: on those things, whether yet we need to make sure everything [2:22:33, 2:22:34]: Thing [2:22:35, 2:22:42]: We can start building or whatever the case may be on those expenditures, just like Mr. Knighton has stated, but it would [2:22:45, 2:23:05]: T Splash is coming up. We can reallocate funds. In regards to that, and I always get the ACT name confusing, the$9 million federal funds that are coming in. Um, I've heard, you know, yes, it is that you can use some of that for infrastructure, but I don't think you can use it for new infrastructure for a specific purpose. [2:23:05, 2:23:09]: And what I'm what I'm trying to say is right now [2:23:10, 2:23:15]: I just want to make sure that the funds are there. I am for this project. [2:23:15, 2:23:25]: I just want to make sure we've already voted to to move forward. We actually voted for 14 million. And I do believe that we had every intention on going with the 18 million. [2:23:25, 2:23:27]: Right. But I I also [2:23:28, 2:23:47]: also believe that we must be wise in our decisions. And I don't think it's impossible that we can't find the four million somewhere else, just not from fund balance. And that was the advisement of our financial advisor as well as our c um as well as Mr. Knighton. [2:23:48, 2:24:08]: And I don't know if if things have changed since then, but I think that, you know, even though this is so many years out, and not in so many years, a a year out or whatever the case may be, and we can break ground, we can still keep moving, we still have to be responsible. And right now, what we're saying is forget. [2:24:08, 2:24:17]: All the rules and all the advice, and we we're paying people to give us advice and then just screw all of that. Let's do what we want to do blindly. [2:24:18, 2:24:21]: Blindly and that is wrong. [2:24:22, 2:24:31]: That is so wrong. That's not that's not being um you know not wanting to move the city forward. That's being smart. [2:24:31, 2:24:51]: Making sure that we have a city and we're not gonna go bankrupt or we're not gonna do something crazy and not have money and be one of those cities that are in the red. We haven't been that way. And I don't think we will. I'm saying that make sure we have the money first. That T-splice is coming up. Once they do that, I'm ready to go. If we can get so [2:24:51, 2:24:56]: that$9 million and reallocate some funds and pool, I'm ready to go. [2:24:57, 2:25:01]: But nobody's given us a direct path on where to get that money from. [2:25:01, 2:25:06]: And I think that's what we that where we need to be smart. Now Kekinwood. [2:25:07, 2:25:08]: In regards to that [2:25:08, 2:25:20]: We are throwing out names of who we want to hire. Is is there money to be have we allocated I mean we have a the project we know what that's gonna cost 18 million based off of what we want. [2:25:21, 2:25:36]: Does that include the fee for Keck and Wood? And what would that fee be? Right? We already have money set aside. Will it be, would it be that we need to increase that budget? Has that been taken into consideration? Has that been budgeted for? [2:25:37, 2:25:45]: I always ask myself, where's the money? Show me the money, and I'm good to go. I'm not going to agree. [2:25:46, 2:26:00]: um with a 25% fund balance reserve, right? And I think that's where we're trying to get. And we we do need to spend money, right? We needed to spend some of our spots funds. And we've done that. We've overdone that. [2:26:00, 2:26:05]: So much that we are on zero and are having to pull from other places. [2:26:05, 2:26:20]: We do not have nine yeah, that's correct, Mr. Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. It's correct. We don't have ninety-two million dollars of cash. That's correct as well. We don't have that. So we're not gonna mislead the citizens letting them think that we do. [2:26:22, 2:26:24]: 'Cause we're not refinancing buildings, we're bonding money. [2:26:25, 2:26:28]: And those things have not made a profit. [2:26:28, 2:26:31]: And won't in years for years to come probably. [2:26:32, 2:26:34]: Just like our Merrill Manders is [2:26:35, 2:26:39]: These are for the citizens. We're not here for that. [2:26:40, 2:26:41]: All of us want to do this. [2:26:42, 2:26:49]: What's the rush in making sure that we do it right? We still gonna start at the same time. Let's just find the money, please. [2:26:51, 2:26:56]: That's all I have to say. Councilman Ballant, stand by for a second, please. Mr. Wall, come back. [2:26:56, 2:26:59]: I need I need to ask you something. I want to see you, sir. [2:27:00, 2:27:07]: Yes, sir, Mayor. All right. Well, you made a recommendation in reference to the four million coming sometime a year from now or so. [2:27:07, 2:27:27]: And and probably other funding sources for that. And I actually, when you first made your initial uh recommendation, I agreed to that publicly in this aspect. I want to go now to Councilman Thomas. You made a motion for 18 million. Does that 18 million mean bonding 18 million right now? Or are you talking about four million later, like a year from now? Or so that that the recommendation to Mr. Wall. [2:27:27, 2:27:30]: made it. What how you how do you foresee that 18 million? [2:27:30, 2:27:31]: The path. [2:27:32, 2:27:34]: Just a few minutes ago, the past that [2:27:35, 2:27:36]: Mr. Knighton. [2:27:36, 2:27:38]: And Mr. Walls laid out. [2:27:38, 2:27:39]: Okay. [2:27:40, 2:27:41]: There was no [2:27:42, 2:27:45]: mention abundant any additional monies. Okay. [2:27:45, 2:27:46]: There was no [2:27:47, 2:27:50]: Uh the the whole path that they laid out. [2:27:50, 2:27:52]: Did not include [2:27:52, 2:27:54]: Uh any addition of bonded. [2:27:54, 2:27:57]: Uh Mr. Knight, if you would just nod your head, am I correct? [2:28:02, 2:28:06]: That's correct. That would not be the recommendation to bond any money at this time, no. [2:28:06, 2:28:07]: Right. So mayor. [2:28:08, 2:28:12]: I know you wanna allow everyone to think everyone has speak. [2:28:12, 2:28:15]: Uh I I I don't believe in [2:28:15, 2:28:18]: Fear tactics, you know, the sun is gonna fall. [2:28:19, 2:28:22]: Um, poison the you know, the the public drinking water. [2:28:22, 2:28:25]: Uh I don't have a problem with folk disagreeing. [2:28:25, 2:28:28]: I I think everybody have voiced their opinion. [2:28:28, 2:28:30]: Uh I I again. [2:28:30, 2:28:36]: Uh I am calling for the vote. I tell you, I appreciate that, uh, Councilman Thomas, but I'm gonna I'm gonna go one more. [2:28:36, 2:28:38]: Yeah, uh call. [2:28:38, 2:28:42]: You rose your hand, sir. I did. Go right in. Um [2:28:43, 2:29:03]: Before you vote on it, I was and first of all, thank you very much for your confidence in us. We've really enjoyed working on the uh amphitheater and uh certainly wish we could have got in there earlier, uh, but um it it it has been a great project. Um before you vote on this motion, I want you to [2:29:03, 2:29:23]: To revisit something that was brought up that I'm not sure the motion yet addresses, and that is current uh capital projects. I think it would be awkward for us to be assigned to current capital projects if you already have a project manager on board. If you don't, that's certainly fine. We can we can assume that role. [2:29:23, 2:29:42]: role on ones that don't, but for the one the capital projects that do have other project managers on board, I think your motion should exclude those or at least address that so that you don't end up approving in essence two project managers on the same on the same project. [2:29:44, 2:30:04]: I believe that's something that Mr. Mighton kind of alluded to also earlier in the conversation. But um if that makes sense, um I don't know, Mr. Councilman Thomas, if you if if you wanted to amend uh uh that in reference to uh Carl mentioned since he is with Kek and Wood. And before and before you speak, I want to make sure that our attorneys are well aware of what we're talking. [2:30:04, 2:30:10]: about here and whether or not there's any legal guidance you need to give us in reference to any additional changes or modifications we're about ready to make. [2:30:13, 2:30:15]: In s in short, the humble. [2:30:17, 2:30:26]: In short, the issue is if we're going to in effect put new project managers, as Mr. Traverton said, on [2:30:26, 2:30:30]: all these other deals that may incur additional fees and costs. [2:30:30, 2:30:36]: And we need to look at that because we don't know how many contracts that affects. Like that's a that's a blanket that's a blanket. [2:30:38, 2:30:41]: I guess that's a that's a blanket move by council. [2:30:41, 2:30:55]: And we would just need to in implement that, pull every contract that we have in them before the city and then go back and tell them that they have a new project manager on it. And once they have a new project manager on it, see what they say about it and how much they would charge us to manage projects that they're currently not on. [2:30:58, 2:30:58]: Okay. [2:30:59, 2:31:00]: So [2:31:00, 2:31:03]: Mr. Mayor, if if I if I may then [2:31:04, 2:31:05]: Um [2:31:07, 2:31:08]: In the budget. [2:31:08, 2:31:11]: Uh in the city budget, professional services. [2:31:12, 2:31:16]: Page kick and wood already. It's it's in the budget as well. [2:31:16, 2:31:16]: Yeah. [2:31:17, 2:31:20]: But if the council would just like for [2:31:20, 2:31:24]: Kickham was to be the project manager on the culture arts now. [2:31:25, 2:31:26]: Just to get get us through. [2:31:27, 2:31:34]: Because we're gonna keep continue to go round and round and then we can always come back and it and once we see a a clear [2:31:34, 2:31:36]: plan fear for the other project. [2:31:37, 2:31:40]: then we may can come back then and and put kicking woods. [2:31:41, 2:31:46]: uh on those project projects. But I do understand the caution that Mr. Nine just made. [2:31:46, 2:31:49]: And uh attorney uh Washington. [2:31:49, 2:31:55]: Uh if Falcon is already the project manner on on some of these other projects, I understand that. [2:31:55, 2:31:57]: Um, to my knowledge, Mr. Knighton. [2:31:58, 2:32:00]: Uh the character art facility. [2:32:00, 2:32:04]: Kek and Woods can there's a clear path that they could be [2:32:04, 2:32:08]: the project manager for this particular project. Is that correct? [2:32:09, 2:32:16]: Yes, yes. Okay, so if it's okay with council, so we can go ahead and move this forward. [2:32:17, 2:32:36]: Was that well if you might move forward? Does that mean that that you that the motion that you originally made made doesn't need to change, or do we just go with that motion uh in this aspect to to deal with this uh latest statement? Well, well, let me ask Mr. Night, can we go forward with the motion as is when we state our project? [2:32:36, 2:32:42]: Uh uh do we have to amend that to pull back on all projects and just specify. [2:32:42, 2:32:45]: Um the cultural arts and then [2:32:45, 2:32:50]: come back and do something later. But if we say all projects now in this motion. [2:32:51, 2:32:51]: Uh [2:32:52, 2:32:56]: Can we come back then and and and alter that? [2:32:56, 2:33:05]: Uh but I'm trying to just move this forward for the cultural art. I think for the I think for the purposes of this discussion in the cultural art center, which is the agenda item. [2:33:06, 2:33:13]: If your motion includes Kekinwood as the um project manager for that project, I think that's [2:33:13, 2:33:17]: Uh again, given that if the council wants to move in that direction. [2:33:17, 2:33:20]: that would um be a path to do that. [2:33:20, 2:33:29]: Um, anything that we would need to do in terms of any scope that they have, I think their scope is fine. Anything that we would need to do would bring that back to you. And then any other projects that [2:33:29, 2:33:35]: we take on as new projects, obviously then that they would have an opportunity to be the project manager on those projects. [2:33:37, 2:33:43]: Okay, Mayor, um I I'm I'm sorry to to stand by please. [2:33:43, 2:33:52]: Go ahead, Mayor. I was saying good go ahead, Council Thomas. If you're gonna make an adjustment and our attorneys are listening, so I just want to make sure that we're doing everything legally in this aspect as well. [2:33:52, 2:33:59]: But if you need to make an adjustment once again, amendment to your original motion, please do so if that's appropriate. [2:33:59, 2:34:02]: Yeah, to cover all this and I'll get you other folks a little in a little bit. [2:34:02, 2:34:22]: Okay. Hold on, it's not your turn. Councilman Barber, stand by please. Stand by. Go ahead, Councilman Thomas. Do you want to understand why I'm asking? Because you have to listen, wait, will you wait for a second, please? [2:34:22, 2:34:23]: speak. [2:34:24, 2:34:29]: Councilman Thomas Courtney, please. I do understand the comments that Mr. Knight made about [2:34:29, 2:34:31]: The word all [2:34:31, 2:34:32]: Projects. [2:34:32, 2:34:36]: And the cautions that this uh a turn is made about [2:34:36, 2:34:37]: Oh [2:34:37, 2:34:38]: Uh private. [2:34:39, 2:34:41]: problematic in itself. [2:34:42, 2:34:43]: For us, the word all. [2:34:44, 2:34:47]: I I I do not have a problem in pulling that back. [2:34:48, 2:34:50]: Uh but I'm sort of curious as to [2:34:51, 2:34:51]: Um [2:34:51, 2:34:56]: Since Councilwoman Barb asked me to add that I'm I'm I'm a little curious as to [2:34:56, 2:34:59]: What is her comments uh concerning it? But [2:34:59, 2:35:02]: And if you don't have an issue in coming back with me. [2:35:02, 2:35:08]: to see if I need to amend, but I do hear what Mr. Nine has said and I do hear what the attorneys are saying about [2:35:09, 2:35:11]: The word all projects. [2:35:12, 2:35:12]: All right. [2:35:13, 2:35:14]: Councilman Barber, go ahead. [2:35:15, 2:35:25]: Okay, the reason why I asked Thomas to amend this motion to include Kekinwood as the project manager of all other projects. [2:35:25, 2:35:28]: is because we have been routinely [2:35:28, 2:35:34]: and constantly asking Mr Knighton for updates on projects such as the [2:35:34, 2:35:39]: Current road projects, I know that they are now out for bid. [2:35:40, 2:35:41]: Um [2:35:41, 2:35:42]: I know that [2:35:43, 2:35:49]: Dalking design is a part of those road projects, but also the wayfinding signage. [2:35:50, 2:35:52]: We need someone. [2:35:53, 2:35:55]: Someone other than Mr Knighton. [2:35:55, 2:35:59]: To provide updates to the mayor and council. [2:35:59, 2:36:00]: regularly. [2:36:01, 2:36:04]: I don't want to have to send emails to Mr. Knight and [2:36:05, 2:36:07]: every week asking him about wayfinding signage. [2:36:07, 2:36:10]: That was something that the council approved. [2:36:10, 2:36:11]: Last year. [2:36:11, 2:36:13]: During our retreat. [2:36:13, 2:36:18]: So if Falcon Design or someone else is the project manager. [2:36:19, 2:36:22]: We need status updates regularly. [2:36:22, 2:36:23]: Without me asking about them. [2:36:24, 2:36:31]: So that's why I was asking about Kekin Wood being the project manager of all of our capital projects. [2:36:31, 2:36:34]: So that we are provided updates regularly. [2:36:35, 2:36:49]: without having to wait or without Mr. Knighton or any member of staff being prompted by counsel asking for a status update. Now I understand um Mr. Washington, the city attorney, and I understand Mr. Knighton [2:36:50, 2:36:53]: If Falcon Design is the um [2:36:53, 2:36:56]: project manager of those the road project. [2:36:57, 2:36:59]: I want to know what the status is. [2:37:00, 2:37:02]: I don't wanna have to keep asking. [2:37:02, 2:37:03]: What's the other? [2:37:04, 2:37:08]: These are projects that have already been approved by this council months ago. [2:37:09, 2:37:10]: We expect it for the globe. [2:37:11, 2:37:16]: Um the awards of the road projects to be met to this council. [2:37:17, 2:37:18]: For approval. [2:37:18, 2:37:20]: Before the summertime, but it looks like [2:37:21, 2:37:23]: Those solicitations won't even close until [2:37:24, 2:37:25]: Great summer. [2:37:25, 2:37:29]: And we won't get a recommendation to award until after the summer. [2:37:29, 2:37:32]: Everything is kind of moving slowly. [2:37:32, 2:37:46]: And I don't know why. So that is why I figured if we had a manager who was designated as the project lead of all of our capital projects, we would have everything moving at the same time. [2:37:47, 2:37:49]: Just seems like we're a slow walking project. [2:37:49, 2:37:53]: One thing at a time. Everything is just moving slow. [2:37:54, 2:37:55]: That's all. [2:37:55, 2:37:56]: Okay, Mayor, if I may. [2:37:57, 2:37:59]: Yeah. [2:37:59, 2:38:01]: To try to finalize this. [2:38:01, 2:38:03]: Let me just clarify my motion. [2:38:04, 2:38:05]: Ту стей. [2:38:07, 2:38:12]: All Kekinwood would be the project manager on all. [2:38:12, 2:38:13]: Um [2:38:13, 2:38:14]: A sand [2:38:15, 2:38:18]: projects. And I think that will clear that up. [2:38:19, 2:38:21]: I I think that may be [2:38:21, 2:38:27]: uh the best path forward to have kicking wood uh as a project manager. [2:38:27, 2:38:30]: On projects that are unassigned. [2:38:31, 2:38:33]: to a project manner. And I think that would clear it up. [2:38:34, 2:38:36]: Okay, you made a motion, he made his motion zero second. [2:38:39, 2:38:40]: Is there a second? [2:38:40, 2:38:42]: Mayor the attorney. [2:38:42, 2:38:53]: The attorney's trying to speak. Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry. Second by my approach. Go ahead, Quentin. No, I d I just want to ask a question. So we're fine with that, but when we're going to execute on this. [2:38:53, 2:38:57]: If Kek and Wood and Ms. Travis and you let me you need to let us know this. [2:38:57, 2:38:58]: But that [2:38:59, 2:39:06]: If there's a question about additional funding for this request, is that also included in this if it's above Mr. Knighton's signature? [2:39:09, 2:39:12]: Okay, I know you're breaking up and I know I think you were dragging back. [2:39:12, 2:39:14]: Yeah. [2:39:14, 2:39:18]: If we do this for the unassigned projects, is that going to be another feedback? [2:39:19, 2:39:21]: Kick and Wood would want from us. [2:39:21, 2:39:35]: And if so, is there a way to do we need to and I guess council need to ask this, do we need to bring it back to you all if it's above Mr. Knight's signature authority? Or how do we want to proceed with that and the execution of it? I I think the answer is if it's above the sing his assignment authority, it comes to me. [2:39:36, 2:39:45]: to sign off on it. And if it and I'll sign off on if the council agrees, you got a simple majority of three, four, or five unanimous decision. If it comes before me, I will sign it. Okay. [2:39:46, 2:39:58]: And if I can't sign it for some strange reason, I got a broke hand, the mayor of Potem will have to sign it. All right. Okay. All right. Thank you. Right. Mr. Mayor, let me just be mindful of everyone that in the budget that that we just passed. [2:39:58, 2:40:01]: That is a line item for professional services. [2:40:02, 2:40:04]: [9604.3, 9616.2]: Okay, now m Councilman Thomas, I know you said we needed to vote. Stand by stand no, not yet. Sorry, sir. Not yet. Councilman Blount been waiting quite some time for this. I got a couple more people trying to make this fair across the board. [2:40:16, 2:40:20]: All right. Now, Councilman Blount, go ahead now. We're just still in discussion. [2:40:20, 2:40:22]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [2:40:23, 2:40:28]: You know, this thing is so convoluted. You know, we've just spent we're spending over thirty minutes on emotion. [2:40:28, 2:40:30]: That we keep amending. [2:40:30, 2:40:37]: You know, uh for uh one of the things before I get before I finish, I'd like to know what what did this do what does this do with our procurement process? [2:40:38, 2:40:48]: uh you know when we when we're assigning um uh we we're bypassing our procurement process and already assigning people or companies to uh um [2:40:48, 2:40:59]: uh contracting companies on the spot. Uh that's one of the questions. And and and one of the things I want to say is Mr. Knighton giving us updates. That's the way it's supposed to work. [2:41:00, 2:41:01]: Not not for us to [2:41:01, 2:41:06]: uh contract people to do a job that we've already hired someone to do. [2:41:06, 2:41:11]: Uh, you know, why are we spending double money and giving double duties? [2:41:11, 2:41:13]: For something that we supposed to be getting anyway. [2:41:14, 2:41:16]: So when it comes to this culture art center right now. [2:41:17, 2:41:22]: And I just want to get to the point at hand, it's not a scare tactic, it's the reality. [2:41:22, 2:41:25]: The reality is that what is the big rush? [2:41:26, 2:41:34]: What is the big rush? There's still some preliminary things that this city has to do in order to even get the cultural arts center even moving correctly. [2:41:34, 2:41:39]: So what is the big rush? What is the big rush when our financial advisor tells us? [2:41:39, 2:41:51]: that not speculative, not probabilities, but let the actual money come forward to say, hey, okay, wow, you were let us say you were right and now let's do it. [2:41:53, 2:41:57]: We're sitting here moving forward this project, adding four more millions. [2:41:58, 2:41:59]: Offer probabilities. [2:42:02, 2:42:03]: How about it, you know? [2:42:04, 2:42:19]: But my heart and my future, I'm vested in here in the city of Stockbridge and I'm saying that what is the big rush? Because it's months down the road before this project can even get started. So why are we rushing this tonight without a clear path? [2:42:20, 2:42:23]: That has not even been given to us by our financial advisor. [2:42:24, 2:42:28]: Jeremy, I'm gonna tap into you for a second, sir. If you don't mind, could you come back on? [2:42:29, 2:42:47]: Okay. Okay. He asked about the procurement process and what we're doing, the reference to doing uh for this uh uh for this taskmaster, for this individual for Keck and Wood here. Is is does he have can you answer his question? Do we have a legit does he have a legitimate concern about the process here? [2:42:47, 2:43:00]: Yeah, may I I think Mayor that the and Councilman Bur Brunt that these are services agreements uh that the the city can enter into, that the city can retain uh you know, companies for services agreements. [2:43:01, 2:43:07]: And then the those any contracts that are entered into down the road would then need to come to council. [2:43:07, 2:43:11]: А со Кекін Войс актing аз е на аджен в до си. [2:43:11, 2:43:12]: Um [2:43:13, 2:43:21]: And it the council can go through procurement if they want to for those, but it's not required to because there's services agreements, but any contracts would need to come back before the city. [2:43:22, 2:43:26]: Contracts, tasker orders, purchase orders, what have you. [2:43:27, 2:43:33]: Okay, thank you. Councilwoman Gantt, I believe you had you've been waiting for some time. You had any if you had nothing else, I'll move on. [2:43:34, 2:43:36]: No, Mayor, I don't have anything I don't have anything else. [2:43:37, 2:43:39]: Councilman Barber, you have one last comment? [2:43:39, 2:43:47]: Um yeah, um my understanding, Kekin Woods was awarded a professional service agreement in 2019. [2:43:47, 2:43:50]: So they're already working on the [2:43:50, 2:43:53]: contract and it's I mean my understanding. [2:43:53, 2:43:56]: based on the projects that they are being assigned to. [2:43:58, 2:43:58]: That's right. [2:43:59, 2:44:05]: The council will expect a new contract to come before us for Kekin Wood is not [2:44:06, 2:44:08]: He already has a contract. [2:44:08, 2:44:09]: That's all. [2:44:09, 2:44:10]: Yeah. [2:44:10, 2:44:20]: All right. That's correct. A clerk, Miss Clerk, once again. Okay. I mean we read the motion before we vote. What do you have for the motion? [2:44:21, 2:44:24]: I have a motion by Councilman Thomas, seconded by [2:44:24, 2:44:29]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander to move forward with the Culture Arts Center funding. [2:44:30, 2:44:32]: At the eighteen million dollar level. [2:44:33, 2:44:39]: And assigning or designating Kekin Wood as the project manager on this project. [2:44:39, 2:44:41]: With weekly updates. [2:44:41, 2:44:42]: And [2:44:42, 2:44:44]: Also on any unassigned [2:44:45, 2:44:46]: projects. [2:44:46, 2:44:49]: And this would be excluding any current. [2:44:49, 2:44:50]: projects assigned. [2:44:51, 2:44:53]: to any other project managers. [2:44:54, 2:45:00]: Okay, Councilman Thomas is nodding his head. So that's your motion, sir. It's already a second. All right. We've had m plenty of discussion. [2:45:01, 2:45:02]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:45:05, 2:45:06]: I have three. All opposed. [2:45:07, 2:45:12]: I abstain. Only I abstain, Mayor, only because [2:45:13, 2:45:14]: I agree with the art center. [2:45:15, 2:45:21]: But I want to make sure that we have the funding and and where we're going to get the funding source from. That's the only reason. [2:45:21, 2:45:24]: You abstain. Councilman Blount, you oppose or abstain? [2:45:24, 2:45:32]: I'm abstaining for the same reason, Mayor. Uh I'm not just not gonna blindly spend the money like that. Okay, so it's three zero two. Motion passed. [2:45:33, 2:45:33]: All right. [2:45:34, 2:45:37]: Uh what we got we got my comments next for the next few minutes. [2:45:38, 2:45:42]: COVID testing is still important, still happening at Heritage Senior Center in Middonnah. [2:45:43, 2:45:51]: You can go, you can uh actually call this number 800 847 4262. Once again, 800 847 4262 to make an appointment. [2:45:52, 2:45:57]: And that's on Monday to Friday, ten AM to three p uh ten AM to three PM or Saturday, nine AM [2:45:58, 2:45:59]: to twelve noon. [2:45:59, 2:46:03]: But obviously testing is important, but the vaccination is even more important uh important. [2:46:04, 2:46:24]: And so uh today at the uh Atlanta uh Motor Speedway, the county along with the public health department uh vaccinated 122 people uh only. And actually the vaccinations at the Mo Atlanta Motor Speedway is only going to occur for two more weeks before the contract ends. That's on Tuesdays. And it'll be second [2:46:24, 2:46:42]: Doses, second doses only for those individuals. Now, uh, now what's happening is that you can still make a vaccination with the public health department, get a vaccination with the public health department or any type of mass vaccination site that's still operating in the state of Georgia. And to do that, you have to call 888-888-888-888 [2:46:42, 2:46:55]: 457-0186. Once again, 888-457-0186. That's Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. or Saturday and Sunday. [2:46:55, 2:47:15]: 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. And when you and when you actually call that number and you'll get an appointment for the closest location to your home, to your to your rest to your home there. Now, Odyssey vaccinations are extremely important. And you can get vaccinations at the CVS, Walgreens, any uh many other uh types of uh of uh [2:47:15, 2:47:35]: healthcare centers and the public health department as well. But the for us, what's happening at the Atlanta Motor Speedway, once again, it's only going to last for two more weeks. And then we've got to work through issues with the public health department in reference to how else we we service those individuals who need to get a vaccination but have not a made appointment yet. [2:47:35, 2:47:40]: Now I'll also tell you that the public health department along in coordination with the [2:47:40, 2:48:00]: EMS of the of the county are working along with CORE. CORE is a nonprofit organization. I believe that's funded by actor Sean Penn. And whereas that uh they go around to underserved communities and or uh communities in which they need additional assistance, they haven't gotten out. And this can be with church groups. [2:48:00, 2:48:08]: And or it can be with other organizations that they can work through this free vaccination, work through this process to set it up. [2:48:08, 2:48:20]: So it's still very important and can still be done. Now vaccinations are now available for individuals 12 years old or older, 12 or older for Pfizer only. Pfizer only 12 years or older. [2:48:21, 2:48:25]: And Moderna, the Moderna vaccination and Johnson and Johnson, you have to be eighteen years or older. [2:48:26, 2:48:30]: Okay, eighteen years older from Maderma and and Johnson and Johnson. [2:48:30, 2:48:50]: But Moderna is is looking to get approval to go down to the age 12. That hasn't happened yet, but maybe it'll get approved within the next several days that they you can utilize the vaccination with individuals uh that are uh down to 12 years old shortly. And uh what it also amounts to as you probably well know if you listen to the media and news there that vaccinations [2:48:50, 2:48:57]: As well as the amount of hospitalizations, vaccinations are still going up, but not up as quickly as we'd like. [2:48:57, 2:49:03]: Uh hospitalizations are down and deaths are down, but you still can get colds. You still need to do get the test. [2:49:04, 2:49:11]: public if you want to coordinate anything for uh with a nonprofit organization or with core once again with a Sean's Penn organization. [2:49:11, 2:49:27]: You can call the public health department and they can work through that process with you to set it up. And that is a point of contact is a guy named Xavier Crockett. In the public health department, it is Xavier Crockett. His number is 706-350-0281. Once again, 706-0-260-260-26 [2:49:28, 2:49:32]: Three five zero eight two eight excuse me, zero two eight one. [2:49:32, 2:49:47]: And uh you talk with him, he can help you work with the process and getting his team of people and the public health department and the core agency to kind of coordinate that for any underserved areas or any type of uh hard to reach uh areas in the community to take the vaccination. [2:49:49, 2:49:50]: All right now. [2:49:50, 2:49:53]: All of a sudden another another note you realize today [2:49:53, 2:49:56]: The one year anniversary of George Floyd's murder. [2:49:57, 2:49:58]: It happened in Minneapolis. [2:49:59, 2:50:08]: So obviously one year ago today it sparked a protest across the entire country and globally against police brutality towards African Americans or people of color. [2:50:09, 2:50:20]: And otherwise uh against uh the use of excessive force. Yeah, nine minutes and I think it's twenty eight seconds, I believe it was, if I got that number right, that that uh the police officer's on George Floyd's neck. [2:50:21, 2:50:21]: So [2:50:22, 2:50:27]: During the protests last year as you rallies and protests, as you well know, I can't breathe. [2:50:27, 2:50:32]: was a cry and during those protests. Now hopefully most protests were peaceful, but obviously a lot of them were not. [2:50:33, 2:50:37]: A lot of times folks at protest will say say their names. Hands up, don't shoot. [2:50:38, 2:50:39]: But you know what's pretty interesting to me? [2:50:40, 2:50:42]: That during last summer for all these protests [2:50:42, 2:50:50]: Across the nation and across the world, a lot of people that were protesting for Black Lives Matter were not African Americans or people of color. [2:50:51, 2:50:57]: Those individuals joined in on our whole process to protest because they felt I will say they felt [2:50:57, 2:51:05]: That uh they're protesting for hopefully for equal quality and and across the board for everybody. Everybody gets treated equally as individuals, as human beings. [2:51:06, 2:51:09]: So hopefully any other protests that do occur in the future. [2:51:10, 2:51:15]: would be peacefully and a sense and not uh get disrupted and destroy property. [2:51:15, 2:51:16]: And hopefully [2:51:16, 2:51:22]: The the George Floyd police reform bill, justice and policing act will pass. [2:51:22, 2:51:24]: We'll have hopefully we'll see that happening. Hopefully. [2:51:25, 2:51:33]: So on that note, I want to make that that present to you all in reference to the one year anniversary and how that upturned or turned up in a sense our country last summer. [2:51:34, 2:51:54]: Now, Stockbridge City uh is going to have its Memorial Day virtual uh program Monday versus Memorial Day at eight PM. So we'll be able to look at that on Facebook in that aspect. I know several of us, the council along with some other organizations, will be virtually and be able to give a message and honor our our our military. [2:51:54, 2:51:58]: uh dead that have passed through to conflicts and wars and things of this nature. [2:51:59, 2:52:19]: Offices of course will be closed on Monday the 31st in observance of Memorial Day. And of course the offices be offices will be closed in observance of June closed on 18 June for the observance of Juneteenth holiday. And I know that we'll have a celebration uh virtually, I believe it is, uh for the city of Star Brays and more information come on that as as well. And that also will be on our website. [2:52:21, 2:52:33]: Main Street Advisory Board and Downtown Development Authority joint planning session is at nine AM by way of Zoom, June 12th. And of course, the Main Street Advisory Board meeting for June 11th has been canceled. [2:52:34, 2:52:50]: City Council meetings at six p.m. by way of Zoom, second Monday of each month, and that'll be June 14th. The downtown development authority meeting, six p.m. Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is June 15th, has actually been council because of the joint meeting they're having with the Main Street Advisory Board. [2:52:50, 2:52:52]: on June uh twelfth. [2:52:53, 2:52:58]: The new council advisory meeting is 6 30 by way of Zoom, third Tuesday of each month, which is June 15th. [2:52:59, 2:53:19]: City Council work session. Uh okay, it's uh by six o'clock, uh last Tuesday of each month, unless notified, of course. And uh that's what we just decided tonight. So that's that's back to the Tuesday, and I believe that is the June 29th. Is that right, Miss? Okay, thank you very much. The planning commission meeting 6:30. [2:53:19, 2:53:39]: By way of Zoom, the fourth Thursday of each month, which is uh uh June 24th. And of course, um uh the uh oh okay, I said already said it. Join us for the Star Breeze virtual memorial day musical tribute. Remember, say 8 p.m. on the 31st. On that note, council, we need to go into executive session. We're gonna have a motion. [2:53:39, 2:53:40]: Take us in a second session, please. [2:53:41, 2:53:42]: So move. [2:53:42, 2:53:46]: Uh well okay. We're going to cycle session for what minute please? [2:53:47, 2:53:48]: Oh yes, Ms. Gantt go ahead, please. [2:53:48, 2:53:50]: Oh no let her [2:53:51, 2:53:54]: I need a motion to go on a second session. You said so move, but it's for litigation. [2:53:55, 2:53:56]: Perfect. [2:53:56, 2:53:58]: Litigation and real estate matters. Okay. [2:53:58, 2:53:59]: I think. [2:54:00, 2:54:18]: Okay, Barber and then Gantt. All right. And um and actually in this case, uh, Mr. Washington, I believe this is actually a session as one primary issue to talk about. And I believe there's uh that this is only for the council and the the attorneys. Is that correct, sir? [2:54:18, 2:54:19]: Yes, this. [2:54:19, 2:54:29]: Okay, so counsel, uh Miss Boliday, if you can send uh the a connection uh for everybody getting a Zecos session for the immediate counsel and our attorneys, please. [2:54:29, 2:54:43]: Okay, I'll need about 10 minutes. So if you could resume at nine o'clock, that'll be nine o'clock sounds good then. We'll see you at nine. Thank you very much. Thank you. And you have the email address I gave you, Miss Collins? I do, I do, sir. Thank you. All right. See you in ten minutes, folks. [2:54:48, 2:54:49]: Yes, it's the [2:55:54, 2:55:55]: All right. [2:56:04, 2:56:06]: Uh [2:58:04, 2:58:11]: All right, uh got everybody back here. We got a quorum. Okay. There I know I see your count there, Miss Ms. Holiday. [2:58:13, 2:58:20]: All right, uh council, uh uh I need a motion to end the second session, please. [2:58:21, 2:58:22]: Some of a second. [2:58:23, 2:58:24]: A second. [2:58:24, 2:58:27]: Okay, Ms. Cann, second Dan. All in favor, please indicate. [2:58:29, 2:58:37]: Okay, you now have decision. Uh need a a motion to reconvene our city council meeting, a work session. I'm sorry, work session, please. So moved. [2:58:38, 2:58:39]: Okay. Is there a second? [2:58:40, 2:58:41]: Second. [2:58:41, 2:58:45]: Okay, Ms uh Mary Portem second that or all favor, please indicate. [2:58:47, 2:58:57]: Okay, it's unanimous again. All right, so obviously there's nothing for us to report out of this particular executive session. So otherwise I need a motion to adjourn our city council work session. [2:58:57, 2:58:59]: So moved. Is there a second? [2:59:02, 2:59:04]: Is there a second? Ms. Barber second that? [2:59:05, 2:59:06]: Canton and Barber, okay. [2:59:07, 2:59:09]: Uh, all favor, please indicate. [2:59:10, 2:59:15]: So you never decision. Good night, everybody. Good night, everyone.
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    --- title: Main Street Advisory Board Meeting date: 2021-05-14 source: 2021-05-14_Main_Street_Advisory_Board_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:06]: May 14th, Main Street Advisory Board meeting to order at nine oh three. [0:00:07, 0:00:08]: Yeah. [0:00:10, 0:00:12]: And we will begin of course with [0:00:12, 0:00:13]: Roll call. [0:00:13, 0:00:17]: And we would like to acknowledge if there are any guests on the call. [0:00:17, 0:00:19]: or on the meeting or in the meeting. [0:00:20, 0:00:20]: as well. [0:00:21, 0:00:21]: Yeah. [0:00:23, 0:00:29]: We have Mr. Alan Peterson, who is our um economic development director on the call, Madam Chair. [0:00:30, 0:00:33]: Thank you, Miss Braggs. Hello. Morning, everyone. [0:00:33, 0:00:37]: Good morning, Mr. Peterson. Thanks for being with us today. [0:00:38, 0:00:39]: So we'll begin our roll call. [0:00:40, 0:00:42]: See, um, Miss [0:00:43, 0:00:44]: Rocio [0:00:44, 0:00:45]: Camacho. [0:00:48, 0:00:50]: Shimari urch. [0:00:52, 0:00:53]: See you, sir. [0:00:55, 0:00:58]: Mr. Willie Hopkins. Present. [0:00:58, 0:00:59]: Sir. [0:00:59, 0:01:01]: Mr. Greg Horton. [0:01:01, 0:01:02]: Present. [0:01:02, 0:01:03]: You said? [0:01:04, 0:01:05]: Miss Linda Jones. [0:01:08, 0:01:09]: It's Linda Jones. [0:01:11, 0:01:13]: Anika Potts, I am present. [0:01:14, 0:01:16]: Miss Mildred Reed. [0:01:17, 0:01:17]: Present. [0:01:18, 0:01:19]: President. [0:01:19, 0:01:20]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:01:20, 0:01:22]: Miss Barber Richardson. [0:01:24, 0:01:25]: Miss Barber Richardson. [0:01:27, 0:01:29]: Mr. Afonso Thomas. [0:01:29, 0:01:30]: Present. [0:01:30, 0:01:31]: Thank you, sir. [0:01:31, 0:01:41]: Right, yes, uh we absolutely do have a quorum. Um, and we would again like to welcome Mr. Peterson to our meeting and acknowledge his presence. [0:01:41, 0:01:46]: Um, do we have a volunteer amongst us to read our mission statement this morning? [0:01:49, 0:01:52]: Madam Chair, I'll take the honors to do that on your behalf. [0:01:52, 0:01:55]: Thank you, sir, if you'd be so kind. Yes, ma'am. [0:01:56, 0:02:12]: The Main Street mission is the Stock Business Main Street program mission is to design and support and identify a downtown historical district that promotes economic vitality, culture-based artistic expressions, encourage culture enrichment, and nurtures community spirit. [0:02:13, 0:02:16]: Thank you. And thank you for saying it with such zeal. [0:02:17, 0:02:32]: All right, we will move on to the review and approval of our minute, our meeting minutes, I'm sorry, of our meeting agenda. Agenda first. Um, because we did not have a quorum for our April meeting, we will need to um [0:02:34, 0:02:35]: Need to [0:02:36, 0:02:46]: approve both our March and April agenda meeting uh minutes. So um in doing so, if you were present [0:02:46, 0:02:49]: for the April meeting, you would have the ability [0:02:49, 0:02:54]: to um bring a a motion or move that we approve [0:02:55, 0:02:59]: the agenda as it was presented or if any amendment was made during that time. [0:03:00, 0:03:05]: So um at this time we would like to begin with the um [0:03:05, 0:03:11]: review and approval of the meeting agenda from our March 2021 meeting. [0:03:12, 0:03:13]: Do we have any um [0:03:15, 0:03:16]: We have a motion. [0:03:16, 0:03:20]: to accept that agenda as it was presented or amended at that time. [0:03:22, 0:03:25]: Oh let's see, Madam Chair. Um [0:03:25, 0:03:26]: I was [0:03:26, 0:03:27]: Go ahead. [0:03:27, 0:03:32]: I was gonna say I'm sorry, Anico, sorry to interrupt, but we've gotta approve [0:03:32, 0:03:35]: The agenda for this meeting first, I think. [0:03:36, 0:03:38]: So okay. [0:03:39, 0:03:54]: And then we can approve all the other business. I'm sorry about that. So the order should be we need to approve Westbur Senate, which the need to do those two items is a part of this active agenda for today. So I apologize. Yes, ma'am. Okay. So um [0:03:55, 0:03:57]: At this time we would like to have um [0:03:58, 0:04:00]: A motion to [0:04:01, 0:04:08]: Approve the agenda for the May meeting as presented, or if there's a need to amend it, please present it now. [0:04:10, 0:04:15]: Madam Chair, I move that we accept the May 14, 2021 meeting as presented. [0:04:16, 0:04:18]: Thank you, sir. Do we have a second? [0:04:24, 0:04:25]: Thank you, Mr. Thomas. [0:04:26, 0:04:31]: All those in all those in favor of accepting the May agenda as presented. [0:04:31, 0:04:33]: Please raise your hand to acknowledge so. [0:04:38, 0:04:42]: And I do not believe there's anyone who is um not visual. [0:04:42, 0:04:45]: Uh so anyone opposing, please indicate. [0:04:46, 0:04:50]: Okay, unanimously we are approving the um [0:04:50, 0:04:57]: meeting agenda for May 14, 2021, as presented. Thank you. At this time we will um [0:04:58, 0:05:00]: Go back and [0:05:01, 0:05:02]: Review. [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: And approve. [0:05:06, 0:05:08]: The agenda for our March. [0:05:09, 0:05:09]: meeting. [0:05:10, 0:05:16]: Again, if you were present at that meeting, you have the ability to move that it be accepted as presented. [0:05:17, 0:05:23]: I'm sorry, um, Madam Chair, again it's gonna be the April meeting that is [0:05:23, 0:05:28]: April. I'm so sorry you guys. I'm I apologize. The April meeting. Ah. [0:05:29, 0:05:39]: The April meeting. It's only April and May. March was fine. Yeah, March was fine. So just April and May. And um I wanted to note that um Linda Jones has joined the meeting. [0:05:39, 0:05:42]: Yes, thank you. Good morning, Miss Jones. [0:05:42, 0:05:43]: Morning, everyone. [0:05:44, 0:05:46]: Alrighty. So the maid. Good morning. [0:05:49, 0:05:52]: April meeting, goodness, April meeting, agenda. [0:05:53, 0:05:54]: We would like to approve it. [0:05:55, 0:05:57]: As presented or if it was amended. [0:05:58, 0:05:58]: We have a motion. [0:05:59, 0:06:05]: Madam Chair, I move that we accept the April um meeting agenda as presented at that time. [0:06:06, 0:06:08]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [0:06:09, 0:06:12]: Do we have a second for someone who was present at that meeting? [0:06:15, 0:06:16]: Thank you, Miss Reed. [0:06:18, 0:06:23]: All those that were present, if you can please acknowledge if you accept the motion as presented. [0:06:24, 0:06:25]: By raising your hand. [0:06:26, 0:06:27]: Okay. [0:06:27, 0:06:31]: Thank you. Everyone actually can vote on that. [0:06:31, 0:06:38]: Just the motion and second had to be made by the people who were actually there, but everyone on the board can vote to approve it. [0:06:40, 0:06:41]: Okay. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: So [0:06:44, 0:06:46]: Could please if you [0:06:47, 0:06:51]: approve the agenda as presented and moved, please raise your hand. [0:06:53, 0:06:55]: Any of those opposing? [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: Okay, thank you. [0:06:58, 0:07:03]: I do apologize for the confusion of my speech and um [0:07:04, 0:07:13]: movement of this particular part of our agenda. We will move on now. Thank you all to review and approve our meeting minutes. [0:07:14, 0:07:16]: for our April meeting. [0:07:17, 0:07:20]: Actually with this it is going to be [0:07:20, 0:07:24]: the minutes from March and April, correct? [0:07:24, 0:07:30]: Thank you. So in terms of reviewing and approving the minutes from our March meeting. [0:07:32, 0:07:35]: For those who were present for the April meeting. [0:07:36, 0:07:40]: Is there a motion to accept those minutes as they were presented? [0:07:43, 0:07:49]: Uh madam chair, gosh. Uh I I move that we accept the March minutes. [0:07:49, 0:07:58]: uh with any necessary corrections at that time and I don't think we had any at that time and placed in the historical uh archives of the Main Street board. [0:07:59, 0:08:01]: Thank you, sir. Do we have a second? [0:08:02, 0:08:03]: Thank you, Miss Reed. [0:08:04, 0:08:05]: All those in favor? [0:08:06, 0:08:07]: Of accepting [0:08:08, 0:08:10]: the marshmallows as presented. [0:08:11, 0:08:14]: during that April meeting. Please raise your hand. [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: All those opposing. [0:08:19, 0:08:21]: Okay, Mr. First, do you have a vote? [0:08:29, 0:08:41]: Sorry, I was trying to unmute. Yes. I've actually couple of meetings. Sorry. So it's uh uh approval of the March meeting minutes. [0:08:41, 0:08:42]: Carrie. [0:08:42, 0:08:44]: We'll move on to our April. [0:08:45, 0:08:48]: Meeting minutes for those that were present for the April meeting. [0:08:49, 0:08:52]: Um again, all this information was sent to you prior to our meeting. [0:08:53, 0:09:02]: Uh can we please have a motion to accept the minutes as presented or bring up any discussion necessary to make amendments to it. [0:09:05, 0:09:09]: Yes, Ms. Madam Chair, um I move that we accept the April minutes. [0:09:10, 0:09:11]: As [0:09:11, 0:09:12]: Bidden. [0:09:13, 0:09:16]: Yeah, that's what you want. Okay. Yes, ma'am. [0:09:16, 0:09:17]: Mm-hmm. [0:09:17, 0:09:18]: Do we have a second? [0:09:19, 0:09:21]: Madam Chair, I second that motion. [0:09:21, 0:09:23]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [0:09:24, 0:09:31]: All those in favor of accepting the April 2021 meeting minutes as they were presented. [0:09:31, 0:09:32]: Please raise your hand. [0:09:35, 0:09:37]: Anyone opposing, please raise your hand. [0:09:39, 0:09:43]: Mr Firch, do you accept the minutes as they were presented? [0:09:44, 0:09:45]: Thank you, sir. [0:09:46, 0:09:47]: Okay, so fairy. [0:09:49, 0:09:54]: Right, and finally we would like to review and approve the financial statement for [0:09:55, 0:09:56]: uh both march [0:09:57, 0:09:58]: In April. [0:09:59, 0:10:00]: At this time. [0:10:00, 0:10:02]: We will do each one individually. [0:10:02, 0:10:10]: So first for the March twenty twenty one financial statement, which was presented at the April meeting for review and consideration. [0:10:10, 0:10:12]: Is there any um [0:10:12, 0:10:15]: conversation that we need to have regarding that. [0:10:16, 0:10:16]: Um [0:10:17, 0:10:22]: And if not, can we please have a motion to accept them as they were presented during the April meeting? [0:10:24, 0:10:34]: Madam Chair, I move that we accept the March financial statements as presented at April's meeting and placed in the Main Street Archive for auditing purposes. [0:10:34, 0:10:36]: Thank you, sir. Do we have a second? [0:10:39, 0:10:40]: Thank you, Miss Reid. [0:10:40, 0:10:43]: All those in favor, please raise your hand to acknowledge. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: Thank you all. Any opposition? [0:10:48, 0:10:49]: Not seeing any. [0:10:49, 0:10:50]: Um [0:10:50, 0:10:54]: the financial statements or March twenty one. [0:10:54, 0:10:55]: Have been approved. [0:10:56, 0:11:03]: Okay, and that final brings us finally to our April 2021 financial statement for review and approval. [0:11:04, 0:11:12]: Uh this is our most active, I understand, statement. So if there's any need for discussion, now would be the time to do so. [0:11:13, 0:11:14]: If not [0:11:14, 0:11:17]: Can we have a motion to approve it as presented? [0:11:19, 0:11:20]: Madam Chair. [0:11:20, 0:11:24]: Yes, sir. I raise my hand to move that we accept the April. [0:11:24, 0:11:31]: 2021 financial statements as presented and placed in the Main Street uh historical for auditing purposes. [0:11:32, 0:11:34]: Thank you, sir. Do we have a second? [0:11:36, 0:11:37]: Thank you, Mr. Furch. [0:11:39, 0:11:42]: All right. All those in favor, please raise your hand to indicate so. [0:11:43, 0:11:45]: Any opposition opposing. [0:11:46, 0:11:50]: Okay, seeing none, uh financial statement for April twenty-one. [0:11:50, 0:11:54]: uh will be approved as presented. [0:11:55, 0:12:07]: And with that, I turn the move meeting over to our Main Street manager, Ms. Kara Bragg. Sada M's there. Okay, thank you so much, Madam Chair Potts. [0:12:07, 0:12:12]: Um, good morning to everyone and thank you all for being here on this beautiful [0:12:13, 0:12:17]: May morning. Um, it's the weekend and I'm very excited. [0:12:18, 0:12:25]: Um this is our first day back in the Main Street program office here. Um the city's [0:12:25, 0:12:30]: Um city hall and city buildings are still closed to the public, however, staff [0:12:31, 0:12:36]: Um has um started back in the offices this week. [0:12:36, 0:12:40]: And hopefully we are moving toward being able to [0:12:40, 0:12:43]: Open our building to the public so that um [0:12:44, 0:12:48]: People can come in to transact business and we will be able to start hosting. [0:12:48, 0:12:52]: Um our main street advisory board meetings in person again. [0:12:52, 0:12:58]: Um but until that time, um, we'll still be meeting via Zoom and [0:12:58, 0:12:58]: Um [0:12:59, 0:13:05]: We'll keep you abreast of everything that's going on with the downtown program and our projects. [0:13:06, 0:13:20]: Okay, um I have first some housekeeping items that I wanted to go over with everyone. Um as you all know, we have our joint Main Street DDA um [0:13:21, 0:13:25]: Planning meet strategic planning meeting coming up on Saturday, June twelfth. [0:13:26, 0:13:29]: From nine am until one PM. [0:13:29, 0:13:34]: Please make sure that you have noted that on your calendars. [0:13:34, 0:13:36]: As you know, this is [0:13:36, 0:13:41]: The only mandatory training other than Main Street 101. [0:13:41, 0:13:46]: that all of our Main Street advisory board members are asked to attend. [0:13:47, 0:13:50]: So um please make sure that your Saturday [0:13:51, 0:13:52]: June twelfth. [0:13:52, 0:13:54]: Has been um [0:13:55, 0:13:59]: Um put on your c marked on your calendars and in your schedules. [0:13:59, 0:14:04]: as time that you will be spending with the Main Street Advisory Board and the DDA. [0:14:04, 0:14:05]: Board. [0:14:05, 0:14:09]: We will be meeting at the Tad Strickland Community Center. [0:14:10, 0:14:16]: Um, that is in our downtown area on Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. I think everyone is familiar. [0:14:16, 0:14:20]: With that location, we've met there several times before. [0:14:21, 0:14:21]: Um [0:14:21, 0:14:26]: We are going to be taking as many precautions as we possibly can. [0:14:26, 0:14:29]: To make that room socially distant. [0:14:29, 0:14:34]: I'm working with our main street. I'm I'm sorry, our city of Stockbridge. [0:14:34, 0:14:35]: Vince. [0:14:35, 0:14:36]: Manager. [0:14:36, 0:14:37]: C C McGee. [0:14:38, 0:14:39]: And her staff. [0:14:39, 0:14:43]: To uh make sure that uh we are having the building. [0:14:44, 0:14:46]: Um sanitized and [0:14:46, 0:14:47]: That we are [0:14:47, 0:14:53]: going to have um all of the tables wiped down, chairs wiped down, surfaces cleaned. [0:14:53, 0:14:56]: And we will also have um tables. [0:14:56, 0:14:59]: and chairs said appropriately. [0:14:59, 0:15:02]: So that we can maintain our social distancing. [0:15:02, 0:15:07]: We are also asking everyone to um bring a mask to wear. [0:15:07, 0:15:12]: We'll also have some mask available just in case anyone um forgets their mask, but [0:15:13, 0:15:18]: We ask that everyone be prepared to wear a mask to this particular session. [0:15:18, 0:15:22]: And we'll have breaks built in where people can step outside and [0:15:22, 0:15:26]: Um, get a breath of fresh air if they need to, but we feel that the [0:15:26, 0:15:26]: Um [0:15:28, 0:15:31]: The building will accommodate um our group appropriately. [0:15:32, 0:15:34]: And there have been some um [0:15:35, 0:15:36]: Some um [0:15:36, 0:15:38]: Renovations made to [0:15:38, 0:15:45]: The not renovation, but I guess some upgrades made to the um ventilation, the HVAC system there. [0:15:46, 0:15:48]: In the Ted Strickland, so we feel that um [0:15:48, 0:15:52]: The ventilation system um with those upgrades. [0:15:52, 0:15:55]: uh will be appropriate to accommodate us as well. [0:15:56, 0:16:01]: Um in your Main Street Advisory Board meeting packet, you all receive [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: A um order sheet. [0:16:04, 0:16:08]: For your lunch order for this particular meeting, we will have a working lunch. [0:16:09, 0:16:11]: during our session. [0:16:11, 0:16:13]: So please make sure. [0:16:13, 0:16:20]: That you complete that form and get it back to me so that I can have all of that information. [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: Um [0:16:22, 0:16:25]: And make sure that if you have any kind of dietary restrictions. [0:16:26, 0:16:30]: allergies, anything like that, to put that in the special notes section. [0:16:30, 0:16:36]: of the order form so that we can make sure that those needs are accommodated as well. Miss Reed. [0:16:37, 0:16:42]: Um that form is in a PDF. Are we able to get it? [0:16:42, 0:16:45]: Otherwise so that I can complete it and send it back to you. [0:16:45, 0:16:51]: Does it speed yes? Yes, I can send it to you as a Word document. Right. If you okay, thank you. [0:16:51, 0:16:57]: Okay. If you're unable to print it out, fill it out by hand and scan it back to me. [0:16:57, 0:17:11]: I can um send you a word document. Just send me an email to let me know that you need it in a word document and I can do that. It was it was just it was just easier to do it that way. Okay, yes, I can send it to you, no problem. If anyone else wants it as a word document. [0:17:11, 0:17:13]: I can send it to you that way as well. [0:17:13, 0:17:17]: And I need to get that order by June fourth. [0:17:17, 0:17:22]: To ensure that we um are able to place our order in a timely manner. [0:17:23, 0:17:23]: Garrett. [0:17:23, 0:17:24]: Yes, sir. [0:17:25, 0:17:30]: Mr. Hopise me uh who's gonna be cooking the real tips on my list uh real [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: Section on here. [0:17:33, 0:17:35]: Are you volunteering? [0:17:36, 0:17:41]: Oh we are going to have a very um healthy lunch. [0:17:43, 0:17:46]: Um, I guess the chips might not be too healthy, but um [0:17:47, 0:17:50]: The rib tips are not on the menu for this meeting, maybe the next one. [0:17:51, 0:17:51]: Ha ha. [0:17:53, 0:18:03]: Are there any other questions about that meeting or about lunch? Um, I did want to direct you all's attention to the survey. You all should have received the link. [0:18:03, 0:18:08]: for the survey that our f meeting facilitators have provided us with. [0:18:09, 0:18:11]: Um, make sure that you [0:18:12, 0:18:15]: Respond to that survey. As a matter of fact, please. [0:18:15, 0:18:16]: Um [0:18:16, 0:18:20]: put a rubber band on your wrist or something to remind you to re [0:18:20, 0:18:22]: spawn to that survey today. [0:18:22, 0:18:23]: They've only received [0:18:24, 0:18:26]: Four responses so far. [0:18:27, 0:18:32]: And we need everyone on the Main Street Advisory Board and on the DDA and staff. [0:18:32, 0:18:34]: That will be in attendance. [0:18:35, 0:18:35]: At [0:18:35, 0:18:38]: the meeting to respond as well. [0:18:38, 0:18:44]: So that means Alan, please respond if you have not already done so and I'll make sure that um [0:18:44, 0:18:47]: The sta other staff members who are planning to attend. [0:18:48, 0:18:51]: will um pay attention to the survey as well. [0:18:51, 0:18:54]: Are there any questions about the survey or? [0:18:54, 0:18:56]: Anything about the retreat. [0:18:58, 0:18:59]: strategic planning meeting. [0:19:01, 0:19:04]: Okay, I'll move on to the next item. [0:19:04, 0:19:05]: Um [0:19:05, 0:19:08]: As far as training is concerned. [0:19:08, 0:19:13]: There was um an announcement sent out to everyone with regard to [0:19:13, 0:19:14]: The um [0:19:15, 0:19:20]: Boot camp, the design downtown design boot camp that is going to be hosted next month. [0:19:20, 0:19:24]: Um there I'm sorry, in July there are three dates. [0:19:24, 0:19:30]: that are um included in that. And the only people that responded that they were interested [0:19:30, 0:19:33]: In attending the boot camp are Mildred. [0:19:33, 0:19:36]: Um councilman Thomas and um [0:19:36, 0:19:37]: Uh Willy. [0:19:38, 0:19:43]: Is there anyone else that I missed with regard to the boot camp? I know it's three days, so that's kind of hard to [0:19:43, 0:19:44]: Commit to [0:19:45, 0:19:48]: But um I think that it's gonna provide us with um [0:19:49, 0:19:52]: A wealth of information, and I'm glad that we will have. [0:19:52, 0:19:56]: some advisory board members who are able to attend. [0:19:56, 0:19:58]: Okay, did I miss anyone? [0:19:58, 0:20:01]: And of course Lisa and I will be attending, and I think um [0:20:02, 0:20:05]: Alan has said that he'll be um attending as well. [0:20:06, 0:20:07]: Okay. [0:20:08, 0:20:12]: All right, we're still uh recruiting for board member positions. [0:20:13, 0:20:17]: Um, and they are specific positions. We've had some people from the community. [0:20:17, 0:20:22]: express an interest in serving on the Main Street advisory board, but they don't [0:20:22, 0:20:23]: Um [0:20:23, 0:20:26]: quite meet the criteria that we're recruiting for now. [0:20:26, 0:20:29]: One is a licensed business. [0:20:30, 0:20:30]: Um [0:20:30, 0:20:32]: Outside of the Main Street district. [0:20:33, 0:20:38]: Um, but within the city of Stockbridge and then the other one is the [0:20:38, 0:20:43]: architect landscape designer and or uh interior designer. [0:20:43, 0:20:44]: So if [0:20:45, 0:20:50]: You all have friends and family who are interested in either one of those positions, please let me know. [0:20:51, 0:20:53]: And um [0:20:54, 0:20:59]: Oh yes, and then the arts position. We were still trying to find someone within the um [0:21:00, 0:21:03]: city limits of Stockbridge who represents an art organization. [0:21:04, 0:21:05]: So if you have [0:21:05, 0:21:07]: Friends or um [0:21:07, 0:21:13]: contacts or um anyone who you feel would fit any one of those positions, please. [0:21:14, 0:21:17]: Let me know so that we can speak with them. I think that we're close. [0:21:18, 0:21:24]: to having someone for the um business outside of the main street district within the city limits. [0:21:24, 0:21:29]: Um, that has um showed an interest. They're just trying to kind of mull it over a little bit. [0:21:29, 0:21:34]: And I'll let you more about know more about that person if they actually submit an application. [0:21:34, 0:21:35]: So that one is close. [0:21:36, 0:21:37]: Okay. [0:21:37, 0:21:38]: Um [0:21:39, 0:21:40]: Let's see. [0:21:41, 0:21:41]: Um [0:21:42, 0:21:43]: Асфар [0:21:44, 0:21:46]: The main street advisory board. [0:21:46, 0:21:51]: Um status if you um are at the end of your term. [0:21:51, 0:21:56]: Um, I need you to start thinking about uh whether or not you're going to continue with the board. [0:21:57, 0:22:02]: Um, because there is a process that we have to go through in October if you're interested in renewing. [0:22:03, 0:22:04]: Your um position. [0:22:05, 0:22:09]: So um just let me know. Um there's several members of the board who will be [0:22:10, 0:22:11]: Who are scheduled to roll off. [0:22:11, 0:22:12]: This year. [0:22:12, 0:22:16]: However, if you're interested in renewing your term. [0:22:16, 0:22:19]: Just let me know and um I will [0:22:19, 0:22:22]: Make sure that we start that proper process. [0:22:22, 0:22:23]: Okay. [0:22:23, 0:22:27]: I think that's all that I had with regard to um housekeeping items. [0:22:28, 0:22:30]: So now we can move to [0:22:30, 0:22:35]: Um the logo redesign and [0:22:36, 0:22:38]: Before you go, I have a question. [0:22:39, 0:22:46]: Is that me? I have a question regarding you said that the architect, I'm still the licensed business outside of the city. [0:22:46, 0:22:48]: A stock with Main Street. [0:22:48, 0:22:50]: Was close or closed? [0:22:51, 0:22:52]: Close. [0:22:52, 0:22:54]: There's someone who has approached me. [0:22:54, 0:23:02]: Um, that is interested, but um they wanted to get all of the details with regard to what the um [0:23:03, 0:23:06]: what it would actually entail and then they um [0:23:06, 0:23:12]: you know, said that they would get back to me by next week as to whether or not they were gonna submit an application. [0:23:12, 0:23:18]: So if they do submit an application, I of course will let you all know that the person is interested in being a candidate. [0:23:20, 0:23:21]: Okay. [0:23:24, 0:23:28]: Now I have a piece of old business that I wanted to um [0:23:29, 0:23:31]: Um go back to um what [0:23:31, 0:23:33]: Северо манс аго. [0:23:33, 0:23:34]: Um, we [0:23:35, 0:23:36]: talked about [0:23:36, 0:23:39]: The redesign of the main street. [0:23:39, 0:23:40]: logo. [0:23:40, 0:23:41]: Um [0:23:42, 0:23:44]: And we discussed this. [0:23:44, 0:23:46]: А і не контекст [0:23:46, 0:23:49]: trying to create a logo that would [0:23:49, 0:23:51]: play well or with um [0:23:52, 0:23:53]: Look good, um [0:23:53, 0:23:59]: sitting next to the city's new logo after they went through their whole branding process. [0:23:59, 0:24:01]: We thought that it would be a good idea. [0:24:01, 0:24:10]: Um, to move forward with um making a different logo or at least freshening up our logo for the Main Street program. [0:24:10, 0:24:12]: And that was voted on by the group. [0:24:12, 0:24:15]: And so we have uh reached out. [0:24:15, 0:24:16]: Then [0:24:16, 0:24:22]: We had some issues as far as us being in the office and you know that sort of thing. So we finally connected with [0:24:23, 0:24:24]: A um local [0:24:24, 0:24:25]: Designer. [0:24:26, 0:24:32]: And she has submitted several um options for us and uh we've kind of narrowed it down to [0:24:33, 0:24:38]: Um some options that we feel would be um very appropriate and would look good with [0:24:39, 0:24:43]: Our um city of Stockbridge logo. So you all should have received [0:24:44, 0:24:46]: A second email from me. [0:24:46, 0:24:49]: That had samples of [0:24:49, 0:24:50]: They [0:24:50, 0:24:52]: Акчуа дизайн [0:24:52, 0:24:54]: Did everyone receive? [0:24:54, 0:24:56]: That email with um [0:24:57, 0:25:02]: It should have had the two new designs and then our actual stock bridge logo on that. [0:25:03, 0:25:06]: And what I wanted to do was just have a discussion about [0:25:06, 0:25:13]: Those two options, see if you all like them, if you felt like they were moving in the right direction. [0:25:13, 0:25:16]: And then if possible, try to take a vote. [0:25:16, 0:25:18]: To see if um [0:25:18, 0:25:20]: We can approve [0:25:20, 0:25:25]: Um, one of those logos to move forward with. As you all know, we are working on the website. [0:25:25, 0:25:28]: And we would like to have that um [0:25:28, 0:25:32]: logo in place so that it can start being inserted into the new website. [0:25:33, 0:25:34]: Um as soon as possible. [0:25:35, 0:25:37]: So I'm going to [0:25:37, 0:25:42]: try to share my screen and bring up the two um logos that we have. So just give me [0:25:43, 0:25:45]: A minute to bring those up. Hold on. [0:25:53, 0:25:55]: Do this. [0:26:02, 0:26:03]: Okay, wait a minute. [0:26:04, 0:26:05]: Bear with me here. [0:26:15, 0:26:18]: Thought I had it queued up, but it looks like it's not quite. [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: Okay. [0:26:33, 0:26:35]: Oh shoot, I have to [0:26:36, 0:26:37]: Sorry, y'all. [0:26:38, 0:26:38]: Mm-hmm. [0:26:42, 0:26:44]: I tried to open it with the wrong program. [0:26:55, 0:26:58]: Okay, Main Street photos and branding, rebrand. [0:26:59, 0:27:01]: Local concepts option one. [0:27:03, 0:27:04]: Open with [0:27:12, 0:27:13]: Option two. [0:27:24, 0:27:26]: Okay, now let me see if I can [0:27:28, 0:27:29]: Share this. [0:27:46, 0:27:47]: Okay, yay. [0:27:49, 0:27:51]: Now can you all see? [0:27:52, 0:27:54]: Um the logo on your screen. [0:27:56, 0:27:56]: Yes. [0:27:56, 0:27:57]: Okay. [0:27:57, 0:27:59]: This is [0:27:59, 0:28:00]: Опшен Она. [0:28:01, 0:28:05]: This is a um what Lisa and I are calling a [0:28:06, 0:28:09]: nostalgic stamp style logo [0:28:10, 0:28:11]: Um we [0:28:12, 0:28:18]: Really like this one because it does have kind of a nostalgia to it. It kind of makes you think of [0:28:18, 0:28:23]: Um, like a old, maybe even a a postal stamp. Um [0:28:24, 0:28:25]: That they would put on a a letter. [0:28:26, 0:28:27]: Back in the day. [0:28:27, 0:28:30]: It has of course Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:28:30, 0:28:35]: Um, it does have Main Street, of course, this and then it has our established date. [0:28:36, 0:28:40]: As we had in our um last logo, and as you can see. [0:28:40, 0:28:42]: The colors for [0:28:43, 0:28:46]: The new stock city of Stockbridge branding. [0:28:46, 0:28:52]: Have been incorporated into this. So we think that this is kind of a crisp and clean. [0:28:52, 0:28:54]: option and it um [0:28:54, 0:28:56]: Kinda has a little um [0:28:56, 0:28:58]: cutesiness to it as well. [0:28:58, 0:29:03]: Lisa, did you have any comment with regard to this particular option? [0:29:07, 0:29:08]: Lisa. [0:29:09, 0:29:11]: Yes, I'm sorry. I was trying to unmute. [0:29:11, 0:29:14]: Um can everyone hear me okay? [0:29:15, 0:29:16]: Yes. [0:29:16, 0:29:18]: Good. Um [0:29:18, 0:29:19]: So [0:29:19, 0:29:27]: Some things I just wanted to point out is that um other Main Street logos we've seen across the state and across the country. [0:29:27, 0:29:30]: usually have some kind of a nod. [0:29:30, 0:29:34]: To uh historiк preservation or historic quality. [0:29:35, 0:29:37]: And also they usually have a nod to [0:29:37, 0:29:40]: The business district. So I think this one. [0:29:41, 0:29:42]: Represents that theme. [0:29:42, 0:29:45]: or Main Street. Um I just [0:29:45, 0:29:47]: Wanted to point that out because you know. [0:29:48, 0:29:50]: There's another choice and it [0:29:50, 0:29:55]: Has different characteristics, so those are some of the things you might want to keep in mind here. [0:29:56, 0:29:57]: Okay. [0:29:57, 0:29:58]: Thank you, Lisa. [0:29:58, 0:30:02]: And now I'm gonna share my screen again and pull up the other option. [0:30:12, 0:30:13]: Okay. [0:30:14, 0:30:16]: This is option number two. [0:30:17, 0:30:20]: This one has kind of a more modern look to it. [0:30:21, 0:30:28]: And it um again, like the other one, is very clean. I think that it will um fit into [0:30:29, 0:30:31]: Um different promotional [0:30:31, 0:30:32]: Type [0:30:33, 0:30:33]: Um [0:30:34, 0:30:38]: Things that we do as far as promotional items, as far as um [0:30:38, 0:30:40]: Promotional advertising. [0:30:40, 0:30:44]: Um, I think that this one will have um [0:30:45, 0:30:46]: Kind of a fresh look. [0:30:47, 0:30:50]: It also incorporates the city of Stockbridges. [0:30:51, 0:30:51]: New [0:30:52, 0:30:52]: Logo. [0:30:53, 0:30:54]: Um as well. [0:30:55, 0:31:02]: So this is kind of a nod to the city and also bringing us in as a partner with the city. [0:31:03, 0:31:04]: So [0:31:05, 0:31:06]: This one is also [0:31:07, 0:31:10]: a winner as well. So I think that [0:31:10, 0:31:12]: Від ідеос2 лоґос. [0:31:13, 0:31:17]: we would be able to um show kind of a brightness. [0:31:17, 0:31:18]: Freshness. [0:31:18, 0:31:22]: very clean lines and then also uh [0:31:22, 0:31:23]: Make sure that we are. [0:31:24, 0:31:27]: Bringing forth I our identity as well. [0:31:27, 0:31:28]: Okay. [0:31:28, 0:31:33]: Lisa, did you have any other comment? And then I'm gonna ask um for board comment. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: On either one or on both. [0:31:37, 0:31:48]: I don't think that, you know, the importance of um this one is that it's a direct nod to the city's uh logo and brand mark. [0:31:48, 0:31:52]: Um and I do like the fact that it's kind of bright. [0:31:52, 0:32:00]: Clean and modern looking. I like both of them quite a bit actually, but um the the difference here is that this one is not. [0:32:00, 0:32:03]: Nodding to nostalgia. It's kind of [0:32:03, 0:32:05]: A nod to today's stock bridge. [0:32:05, 0:32:10]: So um I'll leave everything else up to the board. I guess they can see. [0:32:10, 0:32:12]: What they see and make their own [0:32:12, 0:32:14]: uh perspectives from that. [0:32:14, 0:32:15]: Okay. [0:32:15, 0:32:18]: So were there any comments from the board? [0:32:20, 0:32:21]: Um, I like the first. [0:32:22, 0:32:23]: Who's that? I didn't hear. [0:32:24, 0:32:25]: Yeah. Linda? [0:32:25, 0:32:27]: Hey Linda. I'm sorry, say it again. [0:32:28, 0:32:30]: I really like the first one. [0:32:30, 0:32:47]: Okay. So option one, that's the one with the little house. And if you what do you like about it, Linda? I was gonna say if you all prefer, I can um have them, you know, up and we can kind of go between the two or we can have the gallery up. Which do you all prefer? Having it actually up there. [0:32:49, 0:32:55]: Well, I'm looking at it on my computer. So does everybody have it out, you know, on their desk or whatever so I don't have to [0:32:56, 0:32:58]: Toggle back and forth. Okay, good. [0:33:01, 0:33:03]: All right, Linda, I'm sorry. [0:33:03, 0:33:05]: I interrupted Linda. Linda. [0:33:05, 0:33:10]: Yeah, I I do like the the year that we started. I think that's very important. [0:33:10, 0:33:13]: Um that's good for you. [0:33:13, 0:33:16]: Uh let you know and everyone else know when you started. [0:33:16, 0:33:20]: uh stock grant uh which we didn't have a main street board. [0:33:20, 0:33:23]: And you came in and opened up the windows for us. [0:33:23, 0:33:25]: And created this board. [0:33:25, 0:33:45]: Also, I like that little house that's on there because it's like buildings of like downtown. It represents what we do and we are here to um preserve and promote and build the community. So um I like that part and the colors are nice and it's very readable. It's not [0:33:45, 0:33:46]: So [0:33:46, 0:33:48]: The fonts are not so [0:33:48, 0:33:49]: Wait. [0:33:49, 0:33:51]: I I just like it. I like that one. [0:33:51, 0:33:52]: The comments I love. [0:33:53, 0:33:54]: Okay. [0:33:55, 0:33:57]: Anyone else? [0:33:57, 0:33:59]: Councilman Thomas. [0:33:59, 0:34:00]: Okay, um [0:34:01, 0:34:05]: I I really don't like the second one. I I really don't like the fact that the main [0:34:06, 0:34:10]: And the street is separated. Um, I really don't care for that. [0:34:10, 0:34:13]: Uh and I and I'll just be honest with you, um [0:34:14, 0:34:19]: Either one of the it doesn't move me. Um the old original logo. [0:34:19, 0:34:23]: I I think it has it has more features. I just my take, um [0:34:24, 0:34:27]: These two just j just don't move me. [0:34:27, 0:34:30]: And and definitely uh separating the main [0:34:30, 0:34:31]: And the street. [0:34:32, 0:34:33]: Um [0:34:33, 0:34:36]: I really I really just don't get that period. [0:34:36, 0:34:38]: But that's just my take. These two [0:34:39, 0:34:43]: Um I'm a visual kind of person, but this it just doesn't move me. [0:34:43, 0:34:44]: Um [0:34:45, 0:34:46]: Uh you know, out of these two. [0:34:47, 0:34:52]: versus the old logo, I would still have to go with the old logo. I mean, that's just my take. [0:34:53, 0:34:53]: Okay. [0:34:55, 0:34:55]: Um [0:34:56, 0:34:57]: Greg. [0:34:58, 0:35:18]: Yeah, I I really like the option one. Uh I think it gives a true nod to what we say we're here to do as far as Main Street. You know, it it kind of gives a nod to uh historic district promotion. It gives a nod to business with the little storefront there. And I like the established. [0:35:18, 0:35:21]: [2121.4, 2126.0]: I if we're talking about re rebranding our logo, option two is really [0:35:26, 0:35:34]: the city's logo, it's not ours. Even though Main Street's on there, it's not our logo. It's the city's logo. I don't think our logo should [0:35:35, 0:35:41]: just be including any other logo, it ought to be unique and on its own. So I like option one. [0:35:42, 0:35:43]: Okay. [0:35:45, 0:35:49]: Yeah, uh Mildred, did you have something you wanted to say? And I had yes, I did. Um [0:35:50, 0:35:52]: I like option two because of the color. [0:35:52, 0:35:55]: Not for any other reason but because of the colour scene. [0:35:55, 0:35:57]: More can be added. [0:35:57, 0:35:58]: Two option two. [0:35:59, 0:36:01]: I believe the d the date. [0:36:02, 0:36:04]: And some other things. But as every time I looked at it. [0:36:04, 0:36:05]: I just saw it. [0:36:05, 0:36:07]: I could see it clearer. [0:36:07, 0:36:11]: On option two. For some reason that colour on option one. [0:36:11, 0:36:15]: just didn't sit well with me. And I realize you're saying that it's the cities. [0:36:15, 0:36:16]: No no. [0:36:16, 0:36:18]: But I'm talking about the brightness of it. [0:36:19, 0:36:19]: Um [0:36:21, 0:36:21]: That [0:36:22, 0:36:30]: Now it's the same colors on both both um one is the same colors, but one is in green. One is green, circle is green. [0:36:32, 0:36:36]: And the other Yes. Yes. And the other one is gold. Yes. [0:36:36, 0:36:41]: But it's still incorporating the the colors that are in the city's logo. [0:36:41, 0:36:43]: Right. Okay. Okay. [0:36:43, 0:36:45]: Anyone else? [0:36:47, 0:36:47]: Anika [0:36:48, 0:36:49]: And then Shamari. [0:36:50, 0:36:56]: I'm gonna defer to Shamari first. He had his hand up before I did Oh, I'm sorry, Shamari. I didn't see yours up first. [0:36:57, 0:37:02]: Oh yeah, I just put the little icon hand thing up over there. Um, but um [0:37:03, 0:37:19]: I like the first one as well. Um, as I'm looking at it, it does give like that stamp. That's the first thing I thought of as well, too. Like this would be perfect. You could like stamp it on stuff and um it kind of stands out and and you know, put our stamp on it. [0:37:19, 0:37:20]: Um [0:37:20, 0:37:21]: You know, I think [0:37:22, 0:37:22]: Um [0:37:23, 0:37:29]: Greg said it best about the other one that has the the logo in there for Stockbridge. [0:37:29, 0:37:43]: Um it's a little awkward in there because it's not even, you know, I like stuff to be kind of even and straightforward. That one's kind of just like stuck in there as well. And it's their logo. I think we do need to have something defined for us. So if both the logos are together. [0:37:44, 0:37:56]: it would really stand out that this is Stockbridge Main Street and this is the city of Stockbridge, um, which we do have a lot of stuff where the logos are together. So um I really, I really like it to be unique. Um [0:37:57, 0:38:15]: You know, there's definitely opportunity, I would say, in both. So I agree with uh, you know, Councilman Thomas that um you know, they're not absolutely perfect. If I if if I did have to be critical, I would say the first one. Um, I do like the little house there as well, or you know, kind of like a main street shop. [0:38:16, 0:38:27]: I was gonna say it's supposed to be a shop. If it looks too housey, we might need to change the the icon. Because several people have called it a little house and it's supposed to be like a storefront. [0:38:27, 0:38:36]: Right. Which so and that's where, you know, it kinda gets a little I would this would just be me. I would suggest maybe if it's not too much to stick in [0:38:37, 0:38:46]: the you know same color but have it with um the bridge and a train on it, you know, something like that. Um that might be [0:38:47, 0:38:58]: something to kind of add in there to kind of throw in stock bridge and the train and and all of that as well. I know our our bridge our trains don't run on bridges, but you know, it'd be something to kind of put it together. So [0:38:58, 0:39:00]: That would be my two cents. Okay. [0:39:01, 0:39:03]: All right. Um [0:39:04, 0:39:05]: Anyone else? [0:39:06, 0:39:06]: Oh, this one. [0:39:07, 0:39:08]: Yes, Anika. [0:39:08, 0:39:18]: Okay. Um I honestly echo the much what the majority of the board is stating. Um I do prefer the first over the second. Um [0:39:18, 0:39:22]: The only thing that comes to mind though though is very on trend. [0:39:23, 0:39:31]: Um and when things are on trend, they kind of go out of style. Um, so when I saw it, my eye instantly understood it, liked it. [0:39:32, 0:39:37]: Totally understood it. It was a storefront. That is what Main Street's all about. I don't want I don't want to repeat what everyone is saying. [0:39:38, 0:39:49]: But the only thing that kind of kinda got me is it felt very trendy and that, you know, when the cupcake theme is over, do we change our theme our logo again? So just want to make sure that we're careful. [0:39:49, 0:39:50]: Um [0:39:51, 0:39:58]: with that piece. Um, but totally agree with with um the majority of the board is stating um with option one. [0:39:58, 0:39:59]: Okay. [0:39:59, 0:40:04]: All right. Thank you. Mr. Hopkins, did you have an opportunity to say anything? [0:40:06, 0:40:07]: Um [0:40:08, 0:40:09]: Pretty much uh uh [0:40:10, 0:40:17]: Pretty much everybody's pretty much echo the same thing that that that I think uh can be done. I like option one on that. Um [0:40:18, 0:40:20]: The young l uh [0:40:20, 0:40:26]: difference that I see is uh well it's not a well that's a difference. Um [0:40:26, 0:40:30]: Main Street need to be a no s in inclusive. [0:40:30, 0:40:35]: and supportive of the city and we need to have that identifiable piece. [0:40:36, 0:40:41]: For Main Street. And I think that gives us that identifiable piece for Main Street. And I do know. [0:40:42, 0:40:49]: Uh we are here to support the city, but at some point th that that I I think that Main Street is a vital. [0:40:50, 0:40:54]: uh identifiable piece that we need to put in place so folks know that. [0:40:55, 0:41:02]: Stockbury has a viable downtown Main Street identity, and that gives us that identity. And uh like I said, that that that [0:41:03, 0:41:08]: I thought it was a little house as well, but I think the oning throws it off a little bit. [0:41:09, 0:41:15]: In reference to that. So if if that can be shaping up just a hair just so it looked like a s a [0:41:15, 0:41:27]: downtown storefront with a RN where you see that difference in there. I think that gives us what we need as Main Street because we are that Main Street piece that have to uh [0:41:28, 0:41:29]: Pretty much uh [0:41:30, 0:41:41]: represent the downtown businesses and make it more viable for for businesses to come down here when they see this then they're like oh I like that and and like what a nigga said trendy uh [0:41:42, 0:42:02]: What I've learned over these years and and and being the age that I am right now, trend it changes all the time. But I think this right here fits right into if that change do come, you don't have to change it. You can fit fit it right into whatever that trend may be. Because it's real subtle. It's not we're out loud and it's real subtle. [0:42:02, 0:42:13]: settle to that I think it can fit pretty much in any trend that you put it in. So but overall I think one is is will be my choice if those are two choices that we have to choose. Okay. [0:42:15, 0:42:17]: Did anyone else have any comments? [0:42:19, 0:42:23]: I just wanted to say to everybody, and I'm laughing under this mask. [0:42:23, 0:42:43]: But that little um storefront icon is uh being used by several different not the exact same one, but even American Express uses it for small business Saturday. But everybody is always saying house, and that cracks me up because it's really supposed to represent a storefront. So I don't [0:42:43, 0:42:48]: know if we should be mad at American Express or everybody else at once, but maybe we can re [0:42:49, 0:42:49]: Uh [0:42:49, 0:42:52]: restyle it a little bit and see what we could come up with. [0:42:52, 0:42:57]: And that's what I was gonna say. Um, if there is [0:42:57, 0:43:00]: You know, once we um choose which direction we want to go. [0:43:00, 0:43:06]: we can have the designer possibly look at a different little building or, you know, ways that we can [0:43:07, 0:43:09]: Punch it up a little bit, um [0:43:10, 0:43:13]: I um was looking at the word stock bridge. [0:43:14, 0:43:16]: I would kinda like to see maybe those letters, maybe a [0:43:17, 0:43:17]: Fuck. [0:43:17, 0:43:19]: A a point size larger. [0:43:20, 0:43:27]: Um, so that the stock bridge is a l a little bit or make I'm sorry, not the stock bridge larger, but the Georgia a little smaller. [0:43:28, 0:43:29]: So that um [0:43:29, 0:43:34]: The Georgia isn't bigger than the Stockbridge or the um Main Street letters. [0:43:34, 0:43:36]: So we can um [0:43:37, 0:43:44]: You know, go with one direction and then try to punch it up a bit and bring it back to you all so you can kind of see. [0:43:44, 0:43:47]: uh what the difference is um [0:43:48, 0:43:49]: And um I know [0:43:49, 0:43:50]: And [0:43:50, 0:43:51]: Ліса [0:43:51, 0:43:52]: Um [0:43:52, 0:43:57]: And I had talked about the e the establishment date being in green as well. [0:43:57, 0:43:59]: Um, so we might look at it. [0:44:00, 0:44:00]: Um [0:44:00, 0:44:04]: couple of different versions of this particular one, if this is the one that [0:44:04, 0:44:08]: Um everyone wants to go with. And it seems like that is a majority. [0:44:08, 0:44:12]: is kind of moving toward this, but we'll take a um formal vote. [0:44:13, 0:44:13]: Um [0:44:14, 0:44:16]: For option one and option two. [0:44:19, 0:44:20]: So um [0:44:20, 0:44:24]: All of those who are interested in um [0:44:25, 0:44:26]: Option one. [0:44:26, 0:44:29]: being our new direction for logo [0:44:30, 0:44:31]: Please raise your hand. [0:44:34, 0:44:36]: If we uh [0:44:36, 0:44:37]: Under [0:44:42, 0:44:47]: I'm sorry, I didn't I apologize trying to take a call. What was that? I didn't hear that. [0:44:47, 0:44:52]: I was just asking everyone to raise their hand if they were interested. [0:44:52, 0:44:53]: And um [0:44:54, 0:45:02]: Everyone interested in option one to raise their hand and then we'll do a a like vote for option two if we're up for one. [0:45:03, 0:45:03]: Okay. [0:45:05, 0:45:08]: So that's Mildred, Anika. [0:45:09, 0:45:10]: Really? [0:45:13, 0:45:14]: Greg. [0:45:17, 0:45:20]: Linda, are you did you raise your hand? I'm sorry. Linda. [0:45:21, 0:45:22]: Okay. Shamari. [0:45:23, 0:45:24]: Okay. [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: All right. [0:45:27, 0:45:29]: And so I don't think [0:45:29, 0:45:29]: Mm. [0:45:30, 0:45:33]: Is there anyone who is more in favor of option? [0:45:34, 0:45:35]: Two. [0:45:38, 0:45:38]: Okay. [0:45:40, 0:45:43]: Okay. And then um Councilman Thomas, you abstain? [0:45:46, 0:45:47]: You're on mute, sir. [0:45:51, 0:46:00]: out of the two, I would actually go with one, uh, even though I you know, I made my comment, but I go along with the majority. But if I had to vote for either one, it would be uh option one. [0:46:01, 0:46:01]: Okay. [0:46:03, 0:46:07]: All right. Well, it looks like we're going to go with option one. [0:46:08, 0:46:23]: Is um is there any interest in um doing some tweaking like with the building and coming back to you all with that? Or are you all fine with this? Like I said, we might make the word Georgia a little bit smaller. That's a personal preference for me. [0:46:24, 0:46:30]: But is there any other tweaking that anyone is interested in seeing that I can go to the designer with? [0:46:31, 0:46:33]: Yeah, Kira, I would I I would say if you can um [0:46:34, 0:46:54]: See if they can drill down a little more detail in that in in in the storefront. Okay. Call a house this time, but storefront. Yeah, the little house. Just get some more narrowed down to some detail so you can see the difference in it. And I think well they might have some um different ones, you know, that can be put in I know Lisa and I have seen different ones. [0:46:54, 0:47:00]: They have um one that's kind of like a two story building, even though we don't really have two story buildings down now. [0:47:00, 0:47:04]: But they have some other one story buildings that look more shoppy. [0:47:04, 0:47:13]: That don't have that little awning. They're more square and have like a banner on the front or whatever. So we can see if she can come up with a different icon for that. [0:47:14, 0:47:21]: Or or maybe even having two back to back to kind of look like, you know, a couple of storefronts, that might help as well. [0:47:21, 0:47:41]: We thought about that um sort of a strip of stores, maybe three different heights. Um one reason we didn't and she never drew this for us, but Kara and I talked about it. But we also thought if we ever get it printed, that could get a little bit mushy in the threads, you know what I mean? Because it's kind of small. [0:47:41, 0:47:44]: and crowded when you add all the buildings. [0:47:45, 0:47:57]: But we can ask her and see what it looks like. There's also a version that's kind of a wider building. It almost looks sort of like Gl Greg's store, where uh instead of it being short and narrow, it's kind of [0:47:57, 0:48:01]: wide and it's got more windows. [0:48:01, 0:48:03]: So that that's another possibility. [0:48:04, 0:48:05]: So we'll um [0:48:06, 0:48:10]: Take a look at that with the designer and get back to you all. [0:48:10, 0:48:12]: As soon as possible. Yes, Anika. [0:48:12, 0:48:21]: Um, I was going to um say very much the same thing as Mr. Firch, but I did recall Miss Reed having a like [0:48:22, 0:48:35]: of the outer circle being a different color or the other color. So perhaps we can entertain what that looks like just to see if that's more appealing. Uh because it seemed like that stood out to her. [0:48:35, 0:48:36]: Okay. [0:48:37, 0:48:38]: Yeah, I'll second that. [0:48:39, 0:48:41]: So a version with the outer circle gold. [0:48:42, 0:48:45]: Yeah, if you're gonna change the established [0:48:45, 0:48:55]: in t twenty twenty fifteen to green as well. I think I think the offset of making the circle gold will give it a little bit of pop as well. [0:48:56, 0:49:01]: And you know, um the original version that she showed us, um [0:49:01, 0:49:21]: The the house was still the the teal green and so was established 2015. So the only offset was the red orange of Stockbridge, Georgia. So we we asked her to make the house house, the storefront to make the storefront gold. [0:49:21, 0:49:28]: When she did it, she also made the date gold and we didn't ask for that, but we've presented it to you anyway. [0:49:28, 0:49:30]: I think that it would look better. [0:49:30, 0:49:37]: Um, in the green. But now of course I'm gonna have to see it again. I'm gonna have to see it with the other changes and see how it [0:49:37, 0:49:42]: Place. See now I like the gold established 2015. I mean it's like a million combinations. [0:49:43, 0:49:46]: Um that we could come up with. But we'll try to bring you um [0:49:47, 0:49:48]: The options that um [0:49:49, 0:49:55]: We just discussed possibly making the established teal, possibly um changing the storefront. [0:49:55, 0:49:57]: To multiple stores or a different store. [0:49:58, 0:50:04]: And then the outer circle um possibly being gold. And we'll come back with those um versions. [0:50:04, 0:50:07]: To see if anyone um stands out to you all. [0:50:08, 0:50:15]: Yeah. The good thing is we're down to one and we can ask her to make good tweaks based on the one that there is. Yeah. [0:50:16, 0:50:20]: And this is really a three color logo, which is good because that [0:50:21, 0:50:26]: Um, cuts down on cost when you're thinking about printing things. Anytime you go over three colors. [0:50:26, 0:50:29]: It really gets to be expensive. So keeping it [0:50:30, 0:50:31]: Um to three colors is is good. [0:50:32, 0:50:38]: So um thank you all for your um participation with that. Yeah, that was good feedback. Thank you. Yeah. [0:50:39, 0:50:39]: Okay. [0:50:40, 0:50:50]: Um now I'm going to move to the um portion of my report about um new business. We actually have been approached by the um [0:50:50, 0:50:54]: Arts Consortium with Visit Henry, Georgia. [0:50:55, 0:50:56]: Um, which is our um [0:50:57, 0:51:00]: Henry County C V B Convention and Visitors Bureau. [0:51:00, 0:51:02]: And um Greg Horton. [0:51:03, 0:51:06]: Is a part of the Arts Consortium and um [0:51:07, 0:51:17]: He has spoken with us about the squirrel table project before, but Greg, do you mind just um coming off mute and just giving them just a little quick [0:51:18, 0:51:23]: um review just to refresh everyone's memory about what the project actually is. [0:51:24, 0:51:25]: Sure, um [0:51:26, 0:51:42]: The uh the project is actually called the Bushytail Art Trail. And as you're familiar, it's about the squirrel tables that uh the artist consortium has uh worked with various artists in the county to decorate and install. [0:51:42, 0:51:45]: in the various parts and our goal is to get'em [0:51:46, 0:51:57]: uh in parks and municipalities throughout the county uh as a way of bringing art in public places to the community, to the county to kind of help. [0:51:57, 0:52:17]: uh transform Henry County's image to be more associated with public art and and the arts in general. And so we have we have the an ongoing project that we've divided into three stages. The first stage has been completed and that was getting 10 tables out across the county [0:52:17, 0:52:25]: County in the public uh in the county parks and a few city parks. And now we're engaging in phase two of that project. [0:52:26, 0:52:32]: And phase two is an additional nine tables. Our goal is to have a total of 30 tables throughout the county. [0:52:32, 0:52:36]: Um but phase two is an additional nine tables and [0:52:36, 0:52:45]: What those nine tables consist of is we have committed three tables for each of the main street districts being Stockbridge. [0:52:45, 0:52:45]: Um [0:52:46, 0:52:49]: uh Hampton and Locust Grove. McDonough has their own [0:52:49, 0:52:50]: Uh [0:52:50, 0:53:04]: their own thing. Uh uh so they're they're kind of not in the main street part of our installation. But anyway, so we've committed three tables to each of the main streets, meaning Stockbridge has the option to uh present [0:53:05, 0:53:09]: Three of the squirrel tables for corporate sponsorship. [0:53:09, 0:53:21]: um meaning that any business within the main street uh in stockbridge within and preferably within the main street district uh can sponsor a table and have that table [0:53:22, 0:53:22]: Uh [0:53:22, 0:53:42]: installed and located within the Main Street district of Stockbridge. What we also and in thinking through that project, it it's you know the trying to figure out how to safely or or fairly present that sponsorship opportunity to businesses within the Stockbridge area. [0:53:42, 0:53:49]: It it gets, you know, it's difficult and how you do it and and you know and uh it can it can get a little uh [0:53:50, 0:53:56]: crazy or people get their feelings hurt because they didn't get one of the three tables. And so we thought maybe the first thing [0:53:57, 0:54:07]: our first step should be to offer first refusal to the actual Main Street program. Um and in working with Kira in and trying to get [0:54:08, 0:54:08]: That [0:54:09, 0:54:11]: Phase uh [0:54:11, 0:54:15]: Defined uh we ask uh that [0:54:15, 0:54:26]: the Main Street program present possible installation locations within the district for those three tables. Um and and uh Kira came back with a short list of of [0:54:26, 0:54:39]: uh possible locations to install and but because she has to go through and get also get that improved with the city manager and you know uh the the whole make sure everything's above board and and and fair and and represented. [0:54:40, 0:54:53]: Um, but one of the locations Kira offered, uh, is it okay for me to talk about the amphitheater situation? Sure. Kira, um, was uh the for a location for the amphitheater park. [0:54:53, 0:55:13]: Uh, once the amphitheater is open, we'd like to have a squirrel table in that park, we think. It would help bring attention to the amphitheater, and the amphitheater would help bring attention to the Bushytail Art Trail and it would put public art there. Um, just a little whimsical fun piece there in that park. And we thought maybe uh we could talk with the CDNC if [0:55:13, 0:55:33]: If the amphitheater, once it's open, it will be its own entity if the amphitheater would actually be one of the corporate sponsors and sponsor that table. And so that would leave two tables for the Stockbridge Main Street District for the Main Street program to have first refusal on. And so that's what we're asking. [0:55:33, 0:55:53]: We'd like to present to the advisory board this morning to say, would the advisory board be interested in sponsoring two of the uh squirrel tables for the Bushy Tail Archale to be installed in one of the locations that Kira has presented to us? [0:55:53, 0:55:54]: Okay. [0:55:54, 0:56:01]: And um as far as the sponsorship is concerned, it's$250 per table. [0:56:01, 0:56:05]: So that would be a total of five hundred dollars um for [0:56:06, 0:56:11]: The two tables and um I have um presented this to [0:56:11, 0:56:14]: Mister Knighton with regard to the amphitheatre. [0:56:14, 0:56:18]: So um he would make the decision with regard to whether [0:56:18, 0:56:19]: Um [0:56:19, 0:56:22]: The city wanted to sponsor the um [0:56:22, 0:56:25]: one for the and or if we could put it there. [0:56:25, 0:56:26]: Um, but if [0:56:27, 0:56:35]: He is not interested in having the amphitheater um as one of the or the city as one of the sponsors for the amphitheater park. [0:56:35, 0:56:37]: Um we can also [0:56:37, 0:56:39]: take the third table and have it [0:56:40, 0:56:48]: Um, you know, located somewhere else if the amphitheater is not a location that they would like to have it. So basically we're trying to split the cost a little bit. [0:56:48, 0:56:53]: Unless you all want to approve going forward with [0:56:53, 0:56:59]: Um Main Street sponsoring all three tables, and then we get the permission to put it in the amphitheater. [0:56:59, 0:57:04]: to make sure that that is, you know, that they're actually paid for. Greg, did you have another comment? [0:57:05, 0:57:23]: Yeah, uh maybe it would help too also if I defined what the sponsorship is. The the the$250 sponsorship gets um we expect the life of the project to be two to three years. And so that$250 gets you that table maintained and and and uh [0:57:23, 0:57:24]: And and [0:57:24, 0:57:33]: And located and sponsored for approximately a two-year lifespan. Um, and we'll, you know, if if the table is damaged irreparably. [0:57:33, 0:57:33]: Oh. [0:57:34, 0:57:37]: The consortium will replace that table at no cost. [0:57:38, 0:57:54]: the first time. Um, but you know, if we if we have a problem with vandalism or you know, s uh then the second time uh we're prepared to offer that for that table to be replaced at cost. Um so just just so you understand what that$250 per table gets you is is what I was wanting to define. [0:57:55, 0:58:01]: Right. And I was just gonna go over the sponsorship listing um as I've received. [0:58:01, 0:58:06]: Um we would have discretion over where the table is placed. As Greg um mentioned, it would be [0:58:06, 0:58:12]: maintenance and quarterly visit to visits to the table based on um any [0:58:12, 0:58:13]: Um [0:58:13, 0:58:17]: Maintenance that needs to be done, ma basic maintenance would be done. [0:58:17, 0:58:18]: А фри в кас. [0:58:19, 0:58:25]: Um he mentioned the one replacement table if there is any vandalism or theft, and then the next one would be at cost. [0:58:26, 0:58:32]: Um, recognition of our organization as the sponsor with a link on the Bushy Tail. [0:58:32, 0:58:36]: Art Trail web page and elsewhere as appropriate. [0:58:36, 0:58:43]: Um this would be um promotion for us and we do have a promotion budget if you look on your [0:58:43, 0:58:53]: financial statements. Um we really haven't touched that due to the pandemic. We really haven't um hosted as many um events and things that we usually [0:58:54, 0:58:56]: would be doing so we do have the um [0:58:57, 0:58:58]: The money's there. [0:58:58, 0:59:01]: А формочно перпис. [0:59:01, 0:59:07]: So um is there any discussion on this particular art project? Um it has gotten a lot of [0:59:07, 0:59:09]: Umbas [0:59:09, 0:59:11]: On the C V B website. [0:59:11, 0:59:22]: Also um on um in the local magazine, the um We Are Henry magazine, they did a big feature. Our Henry County Times has done a feature, and Greg was [0:59:22, 0:59:26]: Featured in that particular article, um, in the newspaper on the front page. [0:59:27, 0:59:32]: So um I think that this is um yet another step that we could take. [0:59:32, 0:59:34]: Toward bringing public art. [0:59:35, 0:59:35]: Um [0:59:36, 0:59:37]: to our community and [0:59:37, 0:59:40]: More specifically to the um downtown area. [0:59:41, 0:59:42]: Um [0:59:42, 0:59:47]: So are there any questions, recommendations? Um yes, Annika. [0:59:47, 1:00:01]: Thank you. Um two questions. One is where are the other two locations that or other locations that we're entertaining if the city does not approve us using the amphitheater park? [1:00:01, 1:00:12]: And um just for understanding the scroll tables are is there actually food that's being placed there as well? Is or is it just the art piece and [1:00:13, 1:00:16]: How does that work? I was just curious on um [1:00:17, 1:00:23]: Is there actually food being placed there for nature, nick na natural creatures? It's it's an art piece first. [1:00:24, 1:00:42]: And then um you can utilize the table or an organization can utilize the table any way they want to. Um we could put nuts there if we wanted to, um, because they have different promotions that they're running with regard to the tables. And Greg can tell you a little bit about um how those um [1:00:43, 1:00:45]: Promotions have been going so far. [1:00:46, 1:01:03]: Um uh the the first promotion was actually just a scavenger hunt for the public to locate the first ten tables and we've just completed that scavenger hunt and awarded the the the three prizes to the the first uh three people or groups of three people that [1:01:03, 1:01:23]: Uh took selfies with themselves at each table. So that promotion has already happened. Ongoing promotions or things such as we we have created what we call the golden acorn. And we have a blue acorn, yellow acorn. We can also do heart stars, but things that can be placed on the table to increase. [1:01:23, 1:01:32]: courage uh promotions and any any sponsor or the excuse me the artist consortium or main street [1:01:32, 1:01:34]: Could place a golden acorn in [1:01:35, 1:01:47]: on a table somewhere and ask people to go find it in conjunction with some type of promotion, find the golden acorn and you get this or you can do this kind of thing. Um so so there's that and [1:01:47, 1:02:07]: Um Kira, I don't have the list of locations that you presented in front of me, so I can't answer that. I can't answer that question for Anika. Um, but uh we expect that the promotions will will go on at least uh the CVB is prepared to the CBB, the artist consortium is prepared to conduct promotions at least quarterly using the goal. [1:02:07, 1:02:17]: an acorn or maybe a heart around Valentine's Day or Mother's Day or a star at a certain time of the year. We could even come up with something for shop small. [1:02:17, 1:02:22]: um to place on the tables and and offer promotions in that manner, if that answers your question. [1:02:23, 1:02:28]: Yes, thank you. Um as far as locations are concerned, we already have one in Clark Park. [1:02:28, 1:02:35]: We were thinking of a second, you know, somewhere maybe near the dog park or somewhere like that in Clark Park. Uh, we mentioned the amphitheater. [1:02:35, 1:02:45]: Um also because we have a little free library um along Reeves Creek Trail, we were thinking, you know, somewhere along Reeves Creek Trail and Memorial Park because we're kind of connected. [1:02:46, 1:02:51]: Even though those are those two locations are outside of the Main Street district because [1:02:51, 1:02:53]: The trail connects to the downtown. [1:02:53, 1:02:58]: We felt that there was, you know, a causal connection to those two. [1:02:58, 1:02:59]: Faces as well. [1:03:00, 1:03:07]: Well and in addition to Clark Park here, we also have a table at JP Moseley Park for you know, and that's considered a Stockbridge Park. [1:03:07, 1:03:08]: Yeah. [1:03:08, 1:03:09]: So [1:03:09, 1:03:15]: And and and people have really connected with the project. There's been a lot of excitement about it. I've even received a a letter from [1:03:15, 1:03:19]: uh uh a a local judge uh out of mcdonna [1:03:19, 1:03:33]: uh commending the project and and and her and expressing her excitement over the project and and its life and what it can do for for tourism uh and for you know just the community as a whole with connecting with public art. [1:03:33, 1:03:33]: Okay. [1:03:34, 1:03:39]: Well, thank you so much. And financially we could afford all three if we wanted to, correct? [1:03:39, 1:03:43]: That is correct. Um, Mr. Firch, I saw your hand raised. [1:03:44, 1:03:49]: Yeah, I just had a quick question about how it's set up. More talking about positioning. So [1:03:49, 1:03:57]: Is it like connected to a tree or is it built on its own pole or how are we what are we looking at on in regards to placement? [1:03:58, 1:04:18]: We have the option for either. Um, all the trees thus far are installed uh, excuse me, all the tables thus far are installed on trees. And we've gone through the process of making sure that we do that uh echo-friendly and safely so that we're not damaging or or injuring the trees. We use what we call as we ordered it as. [1:04:18, 1:04:34]: specifically called tree strap. It's an elastic, an elastomeric type strap that we attach the tables to the trees with. And we're also going back and reinforcing that with metal zip tie straps. And but with the metal zip tie straps just means we'll have to [1:04:34, 1:04:54]: uh make sure that we keep an eye and make sure it doesn't at some point as the tree grows cut into the tree or the bark in in any way. But but we feel like that helps make it a little more secure. So that um but so all thus far have been installed on trees, but we do have the option if the CD chooses to install it on a post. But you know, obviously it being in a parks, we'd have to work with the public works department. [1:04:54, 1:05:00]: To have the post installed like we did the little free libraries and then install the table to that post. [1:05:01, 1:05:03]: Gotcha. Okay, cool. Yeah, sounds good. [1:05:04, 1:05:04]: Okay. [1:05:05, 1:05:10]: So is there any other discussion? And I'm sorry, we actually I was [1:05:10, 1:05:14]: kinda trying to look through my files while we were talking to see if I had the picture. [1:05:15, 1:05:18]: of the one that's in um Clark Park attached to the tree, but [1:05:19, 1:05:25]: I didn't have enough time to pull it up. And I'm sorry I didn't have it because it shows how it's strapped to the tree, but it's up high enough. [1:05:25, 1:05:45]: where kids can't jump on it and swing on it, but you know, low enough for you to be able to see it. Uh Willie, did you have a comment? Yes. Yes. A couple. One, that was the qu first question. Do you is there a site or picture we can go to? I'm a little visual of this to see a a picture of what [1:05:45, 1:05:46]: We're referring to [1:05:46, 1:05:56]: Yeah. I can show you a table uh here if you you have a picture of one installed, but I can show you a completed table here that hasn't been installed yet. Let me grab it. Okay, thanks. [1:05:56, 1:06:02]: And secondly, uh I know the sponsorship for the table is two hundred and fifty dollars. [1:06:02, 1:06:22]: It's$250 for one. Right. And it's um if we go with two, it would be$500. And if we go with the three, it would be the$750. Right. Um, and that would give us, you know, control over all three of the tables. Okay. You know, so for those who haven't seen them yet, this is the size. It's actually scaled down. [1:06:22, 1:06:26]: down to the size of a s it's a picnic table scale down to the size of a squirrel. [1:06:26, 1:06:28]: So if you can picture a squirrel sitting here on top. [1:06:29, 1:06:49]: eating uh nuts and and walnuts and things. Um and and and I guess to uh uh Anika's question about uh is it or will food be placed on them? Nobody intends to regularly uh check the tables and see if there's food for squirrels, but we do encourage and and the tables are designed [1:06:48, 1:07:08]: to encourage public interaction. I have checked on a couple of tables from phase one in the county parks and people are placing walnuts and and peanuts on the tables and leaving them there and feeding the squirrels that way. So we encourage interaction with the public in that manner as well. But some people have caught pictures with the squirrels on them, so. [1:07:09, 1:07:09]: Yes. [1:07:10, 1:07:24]: Um this table was decorated by local artist Velkita Reading. She's one of the artists that presents a product here in our store. We were able to work with Velkita and uh entice her into decorating a table. [1:07:24, 1:07:27]: And so you know and and the only uh [1:07:27, 1:07:47]: We encourage them to decorate the tables in a manner that expresses their art. So, you know, there doesn't have to be a squirrel on it, though she did. Most of them have some type of image of a squirrel, but that's not required. We just ask that they be decorated in a manner that we will weather treat them and they'll be able to withstand the element. [1:07:47, 1:07:48]: For two years. [1:07:49, 1:07:50]: So [1:07:50, 1:07:53]: And um my second question was the [1:07:54, 1:08:14]: The sponsorship of 250 per table. Is that the same cost after the two-year period uh to service these tables? What is the cost? Would that be 250 if we had to replace them again? Would that be the same cost? What's the difference in the sponsorship and the cost after after the two years to replace if something [1:08:14, 1:08:14]: happens. [1:08:15, 1:08:35]: Uh the the original sponsorship willie is two hundred and fifty and that and what and what we're saying is that two hundred and fifty not only gets you a decorated table and and installation, it also gets the maintenance of the table for two years. So if a table and but we we back that up with a guarantee that if a table is stolen or [1:08:35, 1:08:55]: Or irreparably damaged by act of nature or vandalism or something, we will replace that table the first time for free. Right. If it is damaged or stolen again, then we replace it at cost if the sponsor chooses to have it replaced. And cost for us has turned out to be the base cost. [1:08:55, 1:09:03]: Cost for the table is$40 plus whatever materials the artist might have in it. So I'm thinking cost is probably gonna be around. [1:09:03, 1:09:06]: eighty or ninety dollars, depending on the individual artist. [1:09:06, 1:09:26]: Okay. All right. Uh and and also um I think this was a good idea from my perspective. Uh the pandemic has helped a lot of us and a lot of our budget, so we didn't hadn't spun any money. And we're very good stewards of money. And based on me looking at the the the financial sheets, I think we're in a good position. Uh [1:09:26, 1:09:44]: not to try to allow the city to to partner to buy one, why not Main Street just purchase all three? And then if the city won't, we uh give one to the city on behalf of Main Street. And since we have that that that budgetary line out of the money that we hadn't spent. So I think it's a good investment. [1:09:44, 1:09:58]: in reference to it and it brings some continuity and some excitement downtown to our downtown and it it it goes along with with with the other cities as well. So I I think it's a good idea. That's a good idea. Okay. Well sir would you like to make that motion? I would. [1:09:58, 1:10:08]: Okay, fabulous. I moved that we allocate$750 towards the the Bushy Tail Art Trail Project Squirrel Tables. [1:10:09, 1:10:11]: And as the main street bowl. [1:10:12, 1:10:14]: Okay. [1:10:14, 1:10:16]: Okay. Is there any discussion? [1:10:18, 1:10:19]: Can I ask a question? [1:10:20, 1:10:20]: Yes, sir. [1:10:21, 1:10:27]: Since I'm actually on the on the consortium and and the one presenting this here, is it appropriate for me to vote on this or should I abstain? [1:10:29, 1:10:30]: Oh [1:10:30, 1:10:31]: Um [1:10:32, 1:10:37]: I guess you should abstain from this particular vote. Yes, please. And that you sustain, yes, sir. [1:10:37, 1:10:38]: Mm-hmm. [1:10:38, 1:10:42]: Okay. Um Anika, you want to call the vote? [1:10:42, 1:10:48]: Yes. Um all those in favor of accepting the motion as presented, please raise your hand. [1:10:50, 1:10:55]: And Linda and Mildred are um having a black screen, so we just need to hear from them. [1:10:56, 1:10:59]: I accept. Thank you, Miss Jones. Miss Reed? [1:10:59, 1:11:00]: I accept. [1:11:00, 1:11:01]: Thank you. [1:11:02, 1:11:05]: Okay, we will move forward with that. [1:11:05, 1:11:09]: Thank you very much and thank you, Greg, for um the presentation. [1:11:10, 1:11:20]: All right. Um and Greg, I'll get with you um after our meeting at another time to kind of settle all of that up. Okay. Thank you all for the vote. [1:11:21, 1:11:33]: Okay. Next on the agenda are my updates with regard to the mural. The mural concept has been decided upon in the um [1:11:33, 1:11:36]: Artist is working on that particular [1:11:36, 1:11:40]: Um design. So we're excited about that in the committee. [1:11:40, 1:11:50]: Um, I think is very satisfied with that. So we're looking forward to being able to unveil that mural at the end of June if everything goes well, fingers crossed. [1:11:50, 1:12:00]: Um the website is also moving along pretty swiftly. Um I had hoped to get more um beta testing from our um [1:12:00, 1:12:07]: Main Street Advisory Board, only a few people um gave me any comment with regard to [1:12:07, 1:12:12]: the website and functionality and that sort of thing. So if you can [1:12:12, 1:12:23]: Still we're still working on it. So if you will all please again put that rubber band on your wrist to remind you to please go onto the website. I sent the link out. [1:12:23, 1:12:30]: Um before our last meeting, I can send it out again. If you have any feedback, we really need you all to test this site. [1:12:30, 1:12:32]: And look at it to make sure that. [1:12:32, 1:12:46]: We haven't missed anything as far as, you know, misplaced words, any kind of functionality difficulties, if it gets stuck, if it freezes anywhere, especially on cell phones, because we really want this to be mobile friendly. [1:12:46, 1:12:50]: So if you all could take some time. [1:12:51, 1:12:52]: Yes, um [1:12:52, 1:12:56]: Somebody's got music playing me to you. Nice, please. [1:12:56, 1:12:57]: Um but [1:12:58, 1:13:03]: If you all could just take a an opportunity to go on, some of you did um respond and I thank you for that. [1:13:04, 1:13:07]: feedback but if everyone else could please just do your part and [1:13:08, 1:13:12]: Go on just for five minutes and just see if you see anything that we need to correct. [1:13:13, 1:13:16]: Because we're gonna try to launch this um [1:13:16, 1:13:20]: Hopefully at the end of June when we're launching our [1:13:20, 1:13:20]: Um [1:13:21, 1:13:29]: mural launching the website, launching the new logo, just doing a big launch to welcome um the summer season. So [1:13:29, 1:13:33]: Um hopefully um we can get that done. Yes, Anika. [1:13:33, 1:13:42]: Um are you interested in getting some feedback at this time or you want it written? Cause I was able to navigate quite a few times on the [1:13:42, 1:14:02]: And would love to just share like literally five seconds if that's okay. You can do that. And and I will say if there's anything that you want to send in, you know, there's more detail or whatever, please do that as well, because we forward that on to the um designer. But yes, go go ahead, please. So just very briefly, just wanted to state that. [1:14:02, 1:14:11]: That it is very robust. There's a lot of content. When you scroll through it, it feels like it's extremely long. [1:14:11, 1:14:31]: I don't know if that was the intention. So meaning you're scrolling, you're scrolling, you're scrolling with most websites, that home landing page doesn't have that ability to scroll so deep into the site. So that was a little different. I didn't know if that was the intention or not. So I did want to mention that. Um Were you on mobile or were you on um [1:14:31, 1:14:51]: Desktop. Desktop. Okay. Yeah. And and I just felt a little different. Not that anything was wrong with it, but I didn't know if that was the intention that you can scroll so far, you know, into the site. Um, and the colors were gorgeous. The photographs were uh again very robust and did want to say the content was rich. Um didn't see any time. [1:14:51, 1:14:59]: typos, very easy to navigate, but just that was a little different. So I just wanted to mention if I don't know if that was the intention or not. [1:15:00, 1:15:20]: It was um the intention for you to be able to kind of if you didn't want to navigate the toolbar at the top or selection bar at the top, you could kind of scroll through and then when something grabs your interest, you could kind of stop and and hit that um icon or you know click on that picture or that video or whatever and [1:15:20, 1:15:40]: Go to that immediately. It does have arrows on the side to show you that you can go up and down, or you can immediately go back up to the top to where the selection bar is. So it was kind of designed for you to kind of keep moving until you saw something that struck your fancy. [1:15:40, 1:15:43]: Um Lisa, did you have any more comment on that? [1:15:43, 1:15:50]: Yes. Um first I wanted to thank the folks who have already given feedback because [1:15:50, 1:16:05]: It was uh it was really valuable. We were able to use that information to um make major tweaks, you know, because it had not been seen by anybody but us and we were kind of working [1:16:05, 1:16:13]: on the backside of the program, not you know, not the front side where you can do it on your mobile or or on any other device. So that's one. [1:16:13, 1:16:17]: And two, um, I appreciate Anika's comment. [1:16:18, 1:16:18]: Um [1:16:19, 1:16:20]: What we [1:16:20, 1:16:22]: thought about when we were designing it is that [1:16:23, 1:16:28]: The data we have says that most of our visitors are older people. [1:16:28, 1:16:29]: Um they're not like [1:16:30, 1:16:31]: millennials. [1:16:31, 1:16:34]: Um, we hope we get more millennials and [1:16:35, 1:16:38]: younger gen X and all of them, but um [1:16:38, 1:16:44]: I say Gen Z and all of them, but we get moms, grand moms. [1:16:44, 1:16:56]: you know, people who come out for family activities. And we thought about making sure it's easy for those people to navigate who may not be accustomed to being online often. [1:16:56, 1:16:58]: So uh we thought the [1:16:58, 1:16:59]: Scrolling. [1:16:59, 1:17:15]: uh down was simpler. But like Kara said, there are easy uh navigations to the other pages and and it'll bring you, you know, kind of circle you back. So you're not like, how did I get here and how do I get back where I want to go. [1:17:15, 1:17:18]: Um, we just thought it was easier that way. [1:17:19, 1:17:31]: Thank you. And I love our board picture. Gorgeous. Thank you. Yes. Isn't it a wonderful picture? Or it should fall right in there. If for nothing else, just go to the about us part of the website to see the Main Street advisory board stuff. [1:17:32, 1:17:44]: Oh, just wonderful. Okay. Um, any other comment? Cause we're kind of going long, so I want to keep on moving if there are no other comments. But if you get a chance, please go. I'll send the link back out again. [1:17:45, 1:18:01]: Um as far as our downtown projects are concerned, the one that I have the um most information that I'd like to share with you all about, and um that is the um revitalization or remodel of 114 MLK. [1:18:01, 1:18:04]: And I'm gonna share my screen um very quickly. [1:18:05, 1:18:05]: Um [1:18:06, 1:18:10]: If you all can you all see my screen? [1:18:12, 1:18:29]: Yes. Okay, great. All right. Um, this is 114 Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail in its current condition. Um, you all um drive by it when you go into the downtown area. Um, we've got the um [1:18:29, 1:18:31]: We the city has [1:18:31, 1:18:33]: Перші this particular property. [1:18:33, 1:18:36]: And has given us the go ahead, as you all know, to um [1:18:36, 1:18:37]: Remodel and white. [1:18:38, 1:18:40]: Basically white box the inside. [1:18:40, 1:18:43]: Just to give you some um historical reference. [1:18:43, 1:18:51]: These are some historic photos of downtown. Um, this is looking down the street from like if you were standing up at Greg's shop. [1:18:52, 1:18:53]: Looking down. [1:18:53, 1:19:00]: Um and this is in the um opposite if you're walking in the opposite direction from what I understand. [1:19:00, 1:19:01]: Um [1:19:02, 1:19:04]: And as you can see, we've got. [1:19:05, 1:19:10]: Flat front um where you have kind of a um zero um inverted front. [1:19:11, 1:19:14]: And then we have the inverted front with the recessed um [1:19:15, 1:19:18]: Entrance into the the building. So you've got [1:19:18, 1:19:19]: You know, where you does [1:19:20, 1:19:23]: literally go into the front door and then you have the recessed [1:19:24, 1:19:24]: Um [1:19:25, 1:19:27]: Entrance. So this is what [1:19:27, 1:19:30]: The hiss from a historic point of view, what the downtown looked like. [1:19:31, 1:19:31]: Um [1:19:31, 1:19:33]: In the early nineteen hundreds. [1:19:34, 1:19:34]: Okay. [1:19:35, 1:19:42]: Um this is kind of a close up of the historic facade. So you can kind of see that. I probably should have brought that up um for the [1:19:42, 1:19:43]: To explain that. [1:19:44, 1:19:52]: But we have three options for 114, and we're working with TSW, the city's architect. [1:19:52, 1:19:53]: Two [1:19:53, 1:20:01]: Um, decide what that building is gonna look like, what that facade is gonna look like on the front. And I wanted to present it to you all. [1:20:01, 1:20:08]: to get some um feedback with regard to what you all would like to see as the main street advisory board. [1:20:09, 1:20:14]: First option is um of Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [1:20:14, 1:20:19]: Um one building one fourteen reimagined. This is what it looks like now. [1:20:19, 1:20:20]: Um [1:20:20, 1:20:25]: This is the flat front with no recessed um or inverted entrance. [1:20:25, 1:20:27]: And if you look at this. [1:20:27, 1:20:29]: Picture at the bottom. [1:20:29, 1:20:34]: This is what it would look like basically, the door here and the picture windows across the front. [1:20:34, 1:20:35]: Okay. [1:20:36, 1:20:39]: Um, so that's what it looks like now. [1:20:40, 1:20:44]: But of course we'd fix this, but you know, see, it's all windows and just a door. [1:20:45, 1:20:45]: Yeah. [1:20:46, 1:20:48]: The second option would be [1:20:49, 1:20:51]: Oh, I should have this on. [1:20:51, 1:20:53]: Presentation. Sorry about that. [1:20:57, 1:21:01]: The second option would be uh inverted entrance. [1:21:02, 1:21:02]: Okay. [1:21:03, 1:21:04]: And we [1:21:04, 1:21:09]: We um maybe because you're using your double screen today. [1:21:09, 1:21:12]: What we see is both your um [1:21:13, 1:21:21]: We see the small uh presentation, but we see your slide, your next slide and series as well. [1:21:21, 1:21:23]: It's not really doing a slideshow. [1:21:23, 1:21:24]: Okay. [1:21:24, 1:21:29]: Hmm. I don't know why I that's because you've got on double screen. If you were not [1:21:29, 1:21:32]: plugged into the double monitors, it wouldn't work that way. [1:21:33, 1:21:34]: Oh. [1:21:34, 1:21:39]: So how do I fix that? You can see it as it is. Yeah, it's okay like this. [1:21:40, 1:21:44]: We okay. We can get it. We get it. Okay. I'm sorry. I don't know how to fix that. [1:21:45, 1:21:45]: And um [1:21:46, 1:21:55]: We're running long, so I don't want to explore them. I'm sorry. Um, so this is um option two. Can you all see the inverted entrance there? [1:21:56, 1:21:56]: Mm-hmm. [1:21:57, 1:22:05]: And that is, you know, kind of what's depicted in this particular storefront where you've got the inverted entrance. [1:22:06, 1:22:07]: So [1:22:08, 1:22:14]: We don't we don't know that that building we can't tell because we think that in this picture. [1:22:14, 1:22:22]: This is the space where that building actually was. And as you can see, there's an empty space. So we don't know. [1:22:22, 1:22:23]: Um [1:22:24, 1:22:26]: We're thinking that it was a flat front. [1:22:27, 1:22:27]: Фасад [1:22:28, 1:22:32]: Батс наверted фаса і [1:22:32, 1:22:34]: Um relevant to that period and [1:22:35, 1:22:36]: Um could be [1:22:36, 1:22:38]: Um, as we've seen. [1:22:38, 1:22:42]: In this picture here, that inverted facade, um, which is [1:22:43, 1:22:43]: Um [1:22:44, 1:22:45]: Like what Greg. [1:22:45, 1:22:47]: Had with his particular building. [1:22:47, 1:22:50]: Um, we would be able to. [1:22:51, 1:22:53]: Бринг інверти фасад. [1:22:53, 1:22:55]: to this particular building if [1:22:56, 1:22:57]: Uh we would like to. [1:22:58, 1:23:01]: And then the third option is uh [1:23:02, 1:23:04]: Флат фронт фасад, азю кінсі хір. [1:23:05, 1:23:10]: But there would be columns put here on each side of the door. [1:23:11, 1:23:15]: And there would be flat front, those are the two columns, and that is just to help. [1:23:16, 1:23:16]: Sure up. [1:23:17, 1:23:21]: the um brick facade because we'd be adding some additional brick here. [1:23:21, 1:23:24]: Пикас, аж you saw in this particular building. [1:23:25, 1:23:27]: It was all glass across the front. [1:23:27, 1:23:33]: So we would basically be putting columns on each side, which is also still relevant to the period. [1:23:33, 1:23:36]: Деву флет агріґєнс та фасад. [1:23:36, 1:23:40]: That would um help shore up the brick. [1:23:40, 1:23:42]: That would be needed to fill in the space. [1:23:43, 1:23:44]: So [1:23:45, 1:23:52]: Is there any opinion or preference based on those three options with regard to? [1:23:52, 1:23:56]: the front facade. So we have flat two flat fronts. [1:23:57, 1:23:58]: Flat with um [1:23:59, 1:24:01]: All of the picture windows. [1:24:01, 1:24:02]: We have [1:24:03, 1:24:05]: The inverted entrance. [1:24:06, 1:24:10]: Which still has the picture windows, but would have the inverted windows. [1:24:10, 1:24:12]: On each side. And then we have the [1:24:13, 1:24:15]: Ам смале пікчу. [1:24:16, 1:24:17]: Um [1:24:17, 1:24:20]: But the columns to help support the brick that would be put in place. [1:24:21, 1:24:23]: Where that glass would have been. [1:24:24, 1:24:27]: So is there any um [1:24:27, 1:24:29]: Preference or discussion or [1:24:30, 1:24:34]: interest in um what that is actually going to look like. [1:24:37, 1:24:39]: And um [1:24:39, 1:24:43]: Perhaps our our shopkeepers can even um [1:24:43, 1:24:50]: Um, Greg and Linda can even um add some comment with regard to the need for um [1:24:50, 1:24:58]: you know, picture windows and entering into the building, um, what you all have experienced because we would like to [1:24:59, 1:25:03]: make these either retail or make this either a retail or restaurant space. [1:25:04, 1:25:05]: Um [1:25:06, 1:25:10]: All right, so I'll just jump in there. Um you know, with with the resist. [1:25:10, 1:25:12]: Uh entrance. Uh [1:25:12, 1:25:14]: The setback. Um [1:25:14, 1:25:29]: you're actually eating into the square footage of your space by doing that. Although it is a nod to historic preservation, um that may be something to consider. And so you know depending on what you the intended use of the building is may [1:25:29, 1:25:37]: may have some influence as to which way you go. And I I think the the second option or or maybe it was the third option of adding the brick [1:25:37, 1:25:38]: Um [1:25:38, 1:25:58]: Columns. So that was the third. Yes. Kind of gives it more of a modern uh approach from my standpoint. But uh the recessed uh opening there could actually, instead of being a recess, could just be used as as uh an enclosed vestibule, and that may help with uh air cons air conditioning. [1:25:58, 1:26:00]: conditioning and air control. [1:26:00, 1:26:20]: with the building. So I I don't know that I helped. I'm just kind of defining what what I kind of what I see. Our building used to have a recessed front. You when we first moved in here, you could tell from the paint lines, and actually you can kind of still see the paint lines on our ceiling from where it used to be a recessed opening and it was pushed back out to be a flat front. [1:26:20, 1:26:32]: Which kind of helps with the look of the store actually, just to have a solid wall of glass. Um so I think it depends on what the intended use of the building is, may dictate maybe which direction you want to go there. [1:26:32, 1:26:35]: Okay. Linda, did you have any comment? [1:26:36, 1:26:51]: Yeah, I concur what Greg said. Um that opening is very important. So it's according to what's going to be put in that space, um, retail or what have you, the window uh glass opening is very nice. I don't personally have that at my place because. [1:26:52, 1:26:53]: I just don't. [1:26:53, 1:26:58]: I bought it like it is, but I do like um that having the open space on that part. [1:27:00, 1:27:01]: I went the window. [1:27:01, 1:27:02]: Mm-hmm. Or glass. [1:27:03, 1:27:03]: Okay. [1:27:04, 1:27:05]: Any other comment? [1:27:08, 1:27:14]: I will say that with the um inverted space, those inverted spaces were designed to kind of have like a [1:27:15, 1:27:16]: Um for the uh [1:27:16, 1:27:20]: retailer to have kind of a um showcase um box. [1:27:21, 1:27:24]: Where people would be able to spend more people. [1:27:25, 1:27:32]: Who s were spending more time looking in the window to see what the shopkeeper had in their inventory or what they were displaying? [1:27:33, 1:27:35]: І вот алаутем то степ інтер. [1:27:36, 1:27:36]: That [1:27:36, 1:27:48]: um recessed area, have cover if there were elements, and be able to look in the window more thoroughly and not be blocking the sidewalk for people walking back and forth. [1:27:48, 1:27:57]: So that's what that invert was actually designed for, to keep people out of the elements while they were looking in the shopkeeper's showcase window. [1:27:57, 1:28:00]: And to also keep them off of the sad walk. [1:28:00, 1:28:04]: In the you know, right away while other people were busily walking up and down the street. [1:28:05, 1:28:09]: Um, I have seen those recesses used in um [1:28:09, 1:28:13]: restaurants and they put tables in those little [1:28:13, 1:28:14]: Um [1:28:14, 1:28:16]: Showcase windows that are [1:28:17, 1:28:20]: Available at the front that that recess creates. [1:28:20, 1:28:28]: And then also I've seen, you know, shopkeepers put displays in those windows that are created, those showcase boxes that are created. [1:28:28, 1:28:30]: Um by the recess. [1:28:31, 1:28:33]: But as Greg said, it does. [1:28:33, 1:28:34]: You know. [1:28:34, 1:28:35]: Come into it can take [1:28:36, 1:28:38]: You know, way, you know, up to [1:28:38, 1:28:39]: Anywhere from [1:28:39, 1:28:42]: you know, I guess twenty square feet or more. [1:28:42, 1:28:43]: Of your um [1:28:44, 1:28:45]: Your [1:28:46, 1:28:47]: Um shop space. [1:28:48, 1:28:49]: So [1:28:50, 1:28:54]: You know, that's a concern. And again, we don't know what's going there yet. [1:28:55, 1:29:00]: That would be up to the council as to what they want to um try to recruit for that particular building. [1:29:01, 1:29:07]: Um and the DDA. And I think we can probably also talk about that at our strategic planning meeting. [1:29:07, 1:29:08]: So um [1:29:10, 1:29:13]: I don't know if this is the time to move forward with [1:29:13, 1:29:14]: Making a a [1:29:14, 1:29:15]: An exact decision. [1:29:16, 1:29:24]: without maybe also talking about it with the DDA, but we do want to make some decision quickly because we want the work to start. [1:29:24, 1:29:26]: Greg and then Amika. [1:29:26, 1:29:38]: Uh uh I will just add that the you know, the recessed entrance can actually add interest to the line of storefronts because you've got a little variation there. So it kind of makes it a little more interesting. So maybe [1:29:39, 1:29:43]: I was leaning a little bit more toward that um recess because [1:29:44, 1:29:45]: Um for the for the [1:29:45, 1:29:50]: exact reason to give it a little that building a little bit more character and to [1:29:50, 1:29:56]: add some variety to our downtown um that historic row of buildings there. [1:29:56, 1:29:57]: Um [1:29:57, 1:29:59]: So thanks for bringing that up. [1:29:59, 1:30:00]: Greg. Um Anika. [1:30:01, 1:30:21]: Uh yes, you guys pretty much hit the points I were I was thinking. Aesthetically, the recess looks better in terms of walkability. It will attract people to look in the windows. Yes, it may take away from your ability to have inventory, but if you have display in there explaining what's inside, it'll bring [1:30:21, 1:30:36]: people in so it's it you know it it's your marketing or if it's a restaurant it's your your um customer sitting there so I think it allows for the space to be used for so many different purposes [1:30:36, 1:30:37]: Um [1:30:38, 1:30:47]: Also, like the concept if you're going to keep it flat or the building requires that you have to keep it flat, that the the uh brick be used. [1:30:47, 1:30:52]: Um, because it kind of gives it a little more um substantial look. This is all me looking at it. [1:30:52, 1:31:11]: as a person walking down the street and the aesthetics of it. But um if I was to choose between the three, the recess um is awesome. And then also remembering the per um historical conservation and bringing that back is awesome too. But you guys really hit it when you said one [1:31:11, 1:31:11]: Um [1:31:12, 1:31:12]: Uh [1:31:13, 1:31:32]: People being able to walk and look and see what your product is. We can use it for just about everything. And you gotta think about the person or business that wants to be in there. They want to have the best possible box to work with. And if your box has, you know, that concept as well, I think you would attract a a a larger um [1:31:33, 1:31:35]: I guess, pool of potential businesses. [1:31:36, 1:31:38]: Okay. Yes, Greg. [1:31:38, 1:31:51]: I want to add one other thing. Um, and and it's from my experience with a wall of glass here. Um, j because of our situation, we we actually get sunrise. So for the first half of the day, especially in the summer. [1:31:51, 1:32:11]: those windows get baked. And and that may so that may require, you know, consideration of maybe even putting an awning uh if if we choose to go with that if you know, if we're gonna go forward with that wall of glass, which I think the wall of glass is the right thing to do. Um, but you know, maybe it should be uh tempered glass or or in in some manner that [1:32:11, 1:32:15]: that kind of cuts back on the UV a little bit and the heat. [1:32:16, 1:32:19]: Um, but just keep in mind that for the first half of the day. [1:32:20, 1:32:22]: It's gonna get baked and that may have an effect on [1:32:23, 1:32:23]: Uh [1:32:24, 1:32:34]: You know, you'd take to you'd take to go through all that process to have that wall of glass there to have the first tenant come in and put up window blinds. That's not gonna look good. So another consideration. [1:32:34, 1:32:35]: Okay. [1:32:36, 1:32:38]: All right. Any other comment? [1:32:39, 1:32:44]: Okay. Um and I did um kind of bring up the option of um [1:32:45, 1:32:49]: Tabling this until our joint meeting when we have the DDA. [1:32:50, 1:32:54]: Um, with us as well. Is that something that you all have an interest in? [1:32:55, 1:32:58]: Um, maybe having it on the table for um maybe [1:32:59, 1:33:01]: Um, discussion with the DDA as well. [1:33:02, 1:33:06]: Or is that something we feel more comfortable with going on and making a decision? [1:33:07, 1:33:08]: Um today. [1:33:10, 1:33:17]: Well, I would say to just to hold off on until the DVA to see what they had in mind. Cause I know um [1:33:17, 1:33:37]: with the other building, the firehouse building, they're talking about the restaurant and all that. So we don't know if they're trying to do restaurant retail or or what that looks like. That might help us in regards to, you know, getting an idea. I am leaning towards the inverted, whether it's a restaurant and has tables or like little bar stools right there, kind of like what you were mentioning. Or if it has um [1:33:37, 1:33:50]: um, you know, some retail space where, you know, people can look in there. I think, you know, having that discussion, um, bringing them in bringing their opinion into the fold of what they're they're planning on doing will will help make that decision. So [1:33:51, 1:33:51]: Okay. [1:33:52, 1:33:53]: Any other comment? [1:33:57, 1:33:57]: Okay. [1:33:58, 1:34:01]: All right. I think Lisa might be frozen. Um [1:34:02, 1:34:04]: Oh no, she's not frozen. Okay. [1:34:05, 1:34:06]: All right, um [1:34:06, 1:34:08]: Anyone else have any comment on that? [1:34:09, 1:34:11]: Okay, well um [1:34:11, 1:34:20]: I think that, you know, in the spirit of um the joint meeting and um looking forward to being more collaborative with the DDA with regard to [1:34:20, 1:34:23]: The downtown design, this might be a good um [1:34:24, 1:34:24]: First [1:34:24, 1:34:26]: Step toward um [1:34:27, 1:34:28]: Talking with them and discussing. [1:34:29, 1:34:31]: Um something that's gonna have a [1:34:31, 1:34:34]: An impact in our downtown, how it looks and [1:34:34, 1:34:39]: Bills. So I think that um that's a good idea if if you all are in agreement with that. [1:34:42, 1:34:50]: Okay, so we're gonna go on and table that until our next meeting. I don't I mean, yeah, until the joint meeting, joint strategic planning meeting. [1:34:50, 1:34:57]: Um, I do not have um a report from the DDA. So now we can move to um [1:34:57, 1:35:01]: The announcement and the concerns that concludes the Main Street Manager's report. [1:35:03, 1:35:04]: Thank you very much. [1:35:04, 1:35:05]: Ranks. [1:35:06, 1:35:11]: Uh are there any announcement or concerns for the board at this time? [1:35:12, 1:35:12]: Okay. [1:35:13, 1:35:13]: Yes, Mr Horse. [1:35:15, 1:35:27]: Um it I guess it's more of a a question and concern is uh I'm glad we're having the joint strategic planning meeting with the DDA, uh but but hearing that we're we're doing it [1:35:28, 1:35:32]: At the end of June in the community center makes me question [1:35:32, 1:35:42]: the progress of converting the community center to be Main Street. Where are we on that project? And where are we on the alleyway project? Things that [1:35:42, 1:35:45]: You know, I I kind of assume dirt that through the pandemic we would [1:35:46, 1:35:49]: Have accomplished some things, but it it seems like [1:35:50, 1:35:53]: And this is gonna sound a little negative, it seems like our [1:35:53, 1:36:07]: City Council has been more focused on trivial things and as opposed to helping us move Main Street and the RSVP plan or anything forward for development. So that that's that's the concern I have is what are we actually accomplishing. [1:36:08, 1:36:08]: Um [1:36:09, 1:36:12]: Physically and visibly as Main Street, um [1:36:12, 1:36:15]: And and where are we on all that? Okay. [1:36:15, 1:36:22]: And I can speak to um I was hoping that Mr. Knighton was going to be on the meeting because he would have been able [1:36:22, 1:36:26]: To provide us with a better update on the alleyway project. [1:36:26, 1:36:31]: Um 114 is um moving forward as you can see. We're working with the architects. [1:36:31, 1:36:41]: As are we with the Ted Strickland, I just didn't have a drawing to show you all of the completed work, but Lisa and I have been meeting with them with regard to [1:36:41, 1:36:46]: um the interior of that particular space. So that work is going on. [1:36:46, 1:36:47]: Um [1:36:47, 1:36:51]: The uh so that's the Ted Strickland and the um [1:36:51, 1:36:56]: MLK f one fourteen MLK, Lisa and I have been very active with that. [1:36:56, 1:37:01]: Um the alleyway project, not so much. We have not received an update. [1:37:02, 1:37:02]: Um [1:37:03, 1:37:08]: in over a month and that's why I was hoping that Mr. Knighton would be able to provide us with that. [1:37:08, 1:37:14]: So unfortunately, I'm not able to give you an update when we last talked with them. [1:37:14, 1:37:15]: Um [1:37:15, 1:37:20]: They were trying to work with the engineering designs for. [1:37:20, 1:37:21]: The underground utilities. [1:37:22, 1:37:30]: And um I had not received anything other than I've requested updates but haven't um received them yet. So I was hoping we would be able to get that. [1:37:30, 1:37:43]: But I will um I am noting your concern with regard to that and hopefully I'll be able to send you all some sort of update with regard to that. Um as far as the Ted Strickland um the construction, yes. [1:37:44, 1:37:45]: The construction um [1:37:46, 1:37:48]: Can't happen until we have an approved [1:37:48, 1:37:49]: Um [1:37:49, 1:37:53]: design and an approved budget. So we're supposed to be getting [1:37:53, 1:37:56]: those final designs um very soon. [1:37:56, 1:38:00]: Um so we'll be hearing um that coming up in council meeting. [1:38:00, 1:38:02]: Um very soon as well. [1:38:02, 1:38:05]: Uh Mr. Thomas, did you want to respond? [1:38:06, 1:38:06]: Yes. [1:38:07, 1:38:07]: Oh. [1:38:09, 1:38:11]: Um Mr. Thomas first, then Alan. [1:38:11, 1:38:12]: Okay. [1:38:12, 1:38:16]: Yeah, I just wanted to say uh the city council is just like the main street. [1:38:17, 1:38:21]: We are pushing for these projects to move forward as well. [1:38:21, 1:38:27]: Um the city council really do not have an issue with trying to to stop any of these projects. [1:38:27, 1:38:34]: Um we are pushing the city managers well. I just want you know the the board to be clear that. [1:38:35, 1:38:39]: You know, we don't really have an issue of trying to stop uh entities project. [1:38:39, 1:38:50]: Uh we push every day uh with wayfinding uh what's going on with the uh refiguration of Lee Street. So we push every day for things to move forward. [1:38:51, 1:38:52]: Um [1:38:52, 1:38:58]: We we just have issues with with with the snail pace, but Mr. Peterson may be able to speak to some of that. [1:38:59, 1:38:59]: Okay. [1:39:00, 1:39:00]: Ellen [1:39:01, 1:39:15]: Yes, I spoke with Mr. Knighton on yesterday about the RSVP uh plan, particularly the um the MLK senior bridge. Uh we've been talking about this for a while. Mr. Knighton contacted ARC. [1:39:16, 1:39:36]: And uh we're going to set up a meeting with them. It'll be myself, Mr. Knight, and Breca, who's over community development. And right now we're waiting on the ARC to get some contracts signed with GDOT. So we are uh moving along with the RSVP plan, particularly that bridge. That's been a primary concern. [1:39:35, 1:39:41]: concern of mine because we need that connectivity piece since the amphitheater is coming. So I've been [1:39:41, 1:39:50]: um Mr. Knighton about the uh the RSVP plan and and the bridge and waiting on ARC to get back with us. But you know, ARC knows we're we're aggressively trying to get this done. [1:39:52, 1:39:52]: Okay. [1:39:53, 1:39:57]: Thank you, um, both Councilman Thomas and Mr. Peterson. [1:39:57, 1:40:01]: Um hopefully they gave you a little bit more information, Greg, and we'll [1:40:01, 1:40:04]: Um keep you updated and um [1:40:04, 1:40:07]: That's something that I'll probably add to our agenda. [1:40:07, 1:40:13]: Um, to allow for Mr. Peterson to give us a little update with regard to economic development. [1:40:13, 1:40:18]: Um, how it touches Main Street and the progress of those particular projects. [1:40:18, 1:40:22]: Because that was an update for me as well with regard to the um [1:40:22, 1:40:23]: The breach. [1:40:23, 1:40:32]: Okay. Um I did want to make one other announcement, and that was um there will be a Carrie May Hambrick. [1:40:32, 1:40:33]: Days so [1:40:34, 1:40:35]: Operation. [1:40:35, 1:40:38]: And I have misplaced my [1:40:38, 1:40:39]: Why yeah. [1:40:40, 1:40:51]: Um, Mr. Thomas, you might know some. Yeah, actually I was gonna make yeah, I was gonna make two announcements. Uh yeah, on tomorrow the fifteenth, uh we will [1:40:52, 1:40:55]: Um, honor is hammered by [1:40:55, 1:40:57]: uh providing a grocery [1:40:58, 1:41:01]: give away uh to the community [1:41:01, 1:41:17]: uh it is in partnership and collaboration with uh Mrs. Diane Miller who owns the Greenfront Cafe. Oh I got it. Ms. Linda Jones uh who is the owner of uh Feeding My People Food Pantry. [1:41:17, 1:41:21]: And community for real people. [1:41:21, 1:41:25]: Uh and the Starkridge Civic Association. [1:41:26, 1:41:28]: Uh from eleven [1:41:29, 1:41:32]: to where from eleven until the food runs out. [1:41:33, 1:41:35]: Uh there are um [1:41:35, 1:41:39]: Fly is being circulated and there is a route. [1:41:39, 1:41:40]: Like that. [1:41:40, 1:41:44]: Yes, that indicate the route for the cars to to come through. [1:41:45, 1:41:47]: Uh so we're excited, you know, in twenty twenty. [1:41:48, 1:42:01]: was the first year we did not do anything to honor Mrs. Hamburg. You know, we started this in 09, um, the last year that she was alive, uh, but since uh oh nine, [1:42:01, 1:42:15]: All the way up until 2020. Uh, we have been celebrating her life and legacy every year. So this year in 2021, we're going to honor her uh by um hosting a grocery giveaway and [1:42:16, 1:42:20]: And if God willing in twenty twenty two we will uh resume the [1:42:20, 1:42:22]: Full scale um [1:42:22, 1:42:28]: Community celebration. And while I do have the floor, I will just say that we are moving forward. [1:42:28, 1:42:30]: to um [1:42:31, 1:42:37]: Finalize uh a budget for the Carame Hambridge uh Culture Art facility. [1:42:37, 1:42:42]: Um so we had this on the agenda at the last meeting. If any of you was tuned in. [1:42:42, 1:42:52]: So at our very next meeting, we should be able to uh confirm uh that dollar amount so TSW uh can get started. [1:42:53, 1:43:01]: Also, June the 23rd, Wednesday, June the 23rd, I will be uh hosting the first responders. [1:43:01, 1:43:04]: Drive through luncheon. [1:43:04, 1:43:09]: at the mirror manders. Uh so if any of you would like to just be on site to [1:43:10, 1:43:14]: Uh thank and honor uh the f our first responders, um I would appreciate. [1:43:15, 1:43:17]: And what what date is that again? [1:43:17, 1:43:19]: That is uh Wednesday. [1:43:20, 1:43:22]: June the twenty third at twelve noon. [1:43:23, 1:43:31]: Uh we would be feeding uh in a drive-through the Henry County Sheriff, the office of the Henry County uh sheriff. [1:43:31, 1:43:39]: The uh police department, the fire department, and the um emergency management uh staff. [1:43:40, 1:43:47]: Okay. A a drive thru luncheon, twelve noon, Wednesday, June the twenty third, twelve noon. Okay. [1:43:50, 1:43:55]: Excellent. Yes, Mr. Hopkins. [1:43:55, 1:44:09]: Uh just a a brief announcement. Unfortunately, I will not be able to be at the Caremy Hambricks uh event. Normally I would, but just for information purposes, I will be not too far from Carramet Hambrick. [1:44:10, 1:44:30]: The leadership at Globe Impact Christian Ministries will be doing a rolling fish fry. So if you got time once it's over, please come through, get you a hot plate of fish, and just roll through so we can wave at you and see if you can throw some fish, you know, after the carry may hammer's uh event or doing the [1:44:30, 1:44:37]: that time. So I just want to give you that tidbit of information. Uh we're out doing our thing and supporting the community in Henry County. [1:44:37, 1:44:42]: What time is what time does it start and end? Twelve to two, noon to two. [1:44:43, 1:44:44]: Okay. [1:44:46, 1:44:47]: All right. [1:44:47, 1:44:59]: Wow, we have lots of great things going on this weekend in Stockbridge. Good stuff. Thank you all for your questions, concerns, announcements, shares. Is there anything else? [1:45:01, 1:45:16]: Right, sounds great. Well, with all our announcements and concerns addressed, can we please have a motion to adjourn our Main Street Advisory Board meeting for today? Um, we would adjourn at ten forty-eight AM. [1:45:19, 1:45:22]: Adam Chair, I moved that we adjourn, didn't you mean at ten forty AM? [1:45:23, 1:45:25]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. We have a second. [1:45:25, 1:45:26]: A second. [1:45:26, 1:45:30]: Weakness the first. All those in favor, raise your beautiful hands. [1:45:32, 1:45:36]: Or uh state by saying I agree if you're unable to show yourself. [1:45:37, 1:45:38]: Miss Jones. I agree. [1:45:39, 1:45:40]: Thank you, ma'am. [1:45:40, 1:45:44]: Thank you all for your time today. Um our meeting is adjourned. [1:45:45, 1:45:57]: All right. Thanks everybody. We were a little longer today, but we had a lot to cover. So thank you so much for your patience and your time. Thanks everyone. All right. Bye-bye. [1:46:02, 1:46:07]: Uh-huh. They did good, so we have loads of bread. [1:46:08, 1:46:12]: Use a I don't know that was something else. [1:46:13, 1:46:14]: I was talking to Alan. [1:46:17, 1:46:20]: Well, yesterday what is going on? [1:46:20, 1:46:22]: I'm trying to get it off, honey. [1:46:22, 1:46:35]: I just want to say bye. Oh bye. I'm sorry. I'll talk to you later. All right. Bye, Linda. Have a good one. Bye-bye. [1:46:52, 1:46:53]: Yeah.