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--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2024-06-10 source: 2024-06-10_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:26, 0:00:46]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, good evening to you. Um what we have going on now will be our ceremonial type of uh part of our council meeting for today. And the first thing I'd like to do is uh I'll have some recognition for city employees. So uh Ms. Smith Sellers, could you come forward please? [0:00:47, 0:00:49]: As well as [0:00:52, 0:00:53]: Stephanie. [0:01:01, 0:01:03]: Okay, follow. [0:01:08, 0:01:13]: Be careful allowing me to touch these things because all of a sudden things start falling apart, right? [0:01:13, 0:01:22]: All right, ladies, congratulations on your recognition. These are both um um certificates of pr want you come on this side just a minute. [0:01:22, 0:01:29]: Might I need a mic, uh yeah, let me stay near the mic here. Uh these are both uh certificate appreciation for uh [0:01:29, 0:01:42]: I'll yeah, come on this side please. Yeah, I'm sorry. Uh for um your ten for you for ten years of service. Uh so fantastic and uh it's uh ten years. That's that's a long time. [0:01:42, 0:01:56]: But you got about another twenty to go, right? About another ten. Another twenty? All right. And on that note, there is a ten year pin for you as well. Okay? Okay. Thank you. Fantastic. [0:01:57, 0:01:59]: You have any comments? [0:02:00, 0:02:04]: It's been great being here. Look for twenty more. [0:02:05, 0:02:05]: Mm-hmm. [0:02:06, 0:02:26]: And for you, Stephanie, uh certificate of appreciation. Uh so recognition and outstanding customer service. And I know that you uh do a lot down downstairs and meeting and greeting all the businesses and and customers and citizens and stakeholders and ribbon cuttings and so it's great. So congratulations uh to you as well. Thank you. Okay. And there is [0:02:26, 0:02:31]: A pen here for you as well. Oh, thank you. We appreciate you. Thank you. All right. [0:02:33, 0:02:39]: I do well yeah, well we'll do it. It's uh she's take uh would you have anything you'd like to say? [0:02:40, 0:02:43]: Thank you to City of Stockbridge. I'ma continue to do what I do. [0:02:43, 0:03:01]: You got you got ten, twenty more, twenty more years or so to go as well. Maybe twenty. All right. Hold on, this uh why don't you want you call them on this side? You go on this side and then we'll see uh oh uh I don't want to be necessarily be in the middle. You lay grasping on the end if you can get us and get better, okay? [0:03:09, 0:03:12]: Thank you. [0:03:14, 0:03:17]: You may eventually be our full our uh photographer the rest of the evening. [0:03:18, 0:03:32]: You're gonna you I'm gonna tag you to be our photographer for us, our photographer. Cause we got several more to go here, bro. Oh okay. All right. No problem. No problem. Good deal. What I have next is uh Georgia Municipal Court Clerks Week, ladies. Come on up. [0:03:42, 0:03:44]: Okay, Java. [0:03:46, 0:04:03]: So this this proclamation for the city of Stockbridge in recognition of Georgia's Municipal Court Clerks Week, June 10th to June to June 24th, 2024. Whereas municipal courts play a significant role in providing access to justice, preserving public safety, and promoting quality in life in Georgia. [0:04:03, 0:04:23]: Whereas more people encounter municipal court clerks than any other court personnel in Georgia, and a public impression of the entire Georgia judicial system is largely dependent upon the public's experience with municipal courts. Whereas municipal courts' clerks have pledged to be ever mindful of their neutrality and partiality. [0:04:23, 0:04:43]: Rendering equal service to all and conforming to the standards set by the uniform rules of municipal courts of the state of Georgia. Whereas in the most appropriate, and that, excuse me, whereas it is most appropriate that we recognize municipal court clerks representing over 380 Georgian municipal courts and a critical role they play. [0:04:43, 0:04:51]: Whereas the Governor Kemp has proclaimed June 10th to the twenty uh to the fourteenth, twenty twenty four, as Municipal Court Clerk's Week in the state of Georgia. [0:04:51, 0:05:11]: Whereas the state of Georgia recognizes the positive impact the municipal court clerks have had on its citizens and quality of life. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vesting me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda, Barber Kyle, Berry, Lakeese Gantt and Alfonso Thomas, do hereby recognize the week of June. [0:05:11, 0:05:31]: June 10th through the 14th, 2024, as Georgia Municipal Court Clerks Week, and further extend appreciation to our municipal court clerk and members of the court clerks office team for the vital services they perform and the experimentary dedication to the Stockbridge community and witness thereof whereof, I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal city. [0:05:31, 0:05:34]: [334.9, 337.9]: two thousand and twenty four and I signed the proclamation along [0:05:38, 0:05:46]: with uh the clerk for Nelson Holiday. And congratulations. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you. [0:05:46, 0:06:03]: Now you y mic is yours. If you have any comments that you'd like to make? I don't have any comments, just thank you to Kenya and Quinn, my great team. Okay. Fantastic lady. Okay, good. I uh you you now give now you're not official photographer now. All right. Come on there, ladies. Good deal. [0:06:08, 0:06:10]: Okay. [0:06:14, 0:06:22]: Mary, if you don't mind, you wonder um if you know what Shane taking the picture. Oh yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. [0:06:25, 0:06:30]: We're gonna p right here, ladies, we'll take two. Take two. [0:06:30, 0:06:35]: That's all we're not quick. [0:06:36, 0:06:37]: Right. [0:06:43, 0:06:45]: Yeah, that's it. Okay. [0:06:46, 0:06:49]: [416.7, 436.7]: The next proclamation uh we have is Juneteenth. And so obviously you all know that the city of Stockbridge, I think it's going to be our third year. Third year. Third year celebrated Juneteenth, which is just right around the corner. So it's a proclamation recognizing Juneteenth. Whereas on June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, about I need to get over here, I'm sorry. [0:07:17, 0:07:24]: Uh once again, whereas on june nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, about two months after the Confederate general Robert E. Lee surrendered at Atomatics, Virginia. [0:07:25, 0:07:34]: Gordon Granger, a Union uh general, arrived in Galveston, Texas to inform Envl enslaved African Americans of their freedom and that the Civil War had ended. [0:07:34, 0:07:38]: General Granger's announcement put into effect the Emancipation Proclamation. [0:07:39, 0:07:43]: issued on january first, eighteen sixty three, by President Abraham Lincoln. [0:07:43, 0:08:03]: Whereas the word about the signing of the Emancipation Proclamation was delayed more than two and a half years to June 19, 1865, in reaching authorities and African Americans in the South and Southwest, Southwestern part of the United States. Whereas the last enslaved African Americans in Texas were pronounced free people and that the [0:08:03, 0:08:10]: Momentous date of june nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, have been proclaimed Juneteenth, combining the words June and nineteenth. [0:08:10, 0:08:15]: The holidays also call Juneteenth Independence Day, Freedom Day, or Emancipation Day. [0:08:16, 0:08:36]: Whereas on june seventeenth, twenty twenty one, President Biden signed the bill into law making Juneteenth, the eleventh na uh national holiday recognized by the federal government. All fifty states in the District of Columbia recognize Juneteenth as a holiday or observance. The national observance of Juneteenth provides a full a fuller and more accurate portrayal of America's history. [0:08:36, 0:08:56]: Whereas on June 19th each year, we celebrate and honor African Americans' heritage, history, freedom, culture, and events and ceremonies that reflect the power of the community, family, art, and traditions. In 2024, National Juneteenth theme, the wildest dreams, honors the history of our ancestors, highlights present uh accomplishments. Now, therefore, our [0:08:56, 0:09:08]: Anthony Sfor, by virtue of authority vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Londa Barber, Cowberry, Lakesa Gan, and Afonso Thomas, do hereby proclaim [0:09:08, 0:09:11]: June nineteenth, twenty twenty four, as a juneteenth. [0:09:11, 0:09:31]: Excuse me, as Juneteenth day in the great city of Stockbridge, we call upon everyone to observe Juneteenth as an important milestone in our long march towards equality. The reminder of the great uh contributions of African Americans have made as free citizens of our nation, as well as the injustices they suffered as slaves and the courage of our forefathers. [0:09:31, 0:09:41]: forbearers of all races and creeds who gave their lives to fight against slavery. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in great seal city, Stockbridge, Georgia, [0:09:42, 0:09:49]: On the tenth day of June of uh year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty four, and I signed a proclamation along with a clerk for Nessa Holiday. Okay. [0:09:54, 0:10:02]: Sure. [0:10:03, 0:10:03]: [604.5, 606.7]: Staff, folks, wanna come on up? [0:10:08, 0:10:21]: Come on, Miss Weber. Come on, Miss Dress. Come on. Come on, folks. Come on today. Rhonda. Rhonda. Rhonda. Rhonda. [0:10:21, 0:10:41]: We probably I think we need to shift. I think we're out of the we're out of the um how but this is gonna probably block some of us here. We may have to double up. If you come in, some of you come on double up. Shift a little bit and come up. Some of you ladies come on up front. [0:10:41, 0:10:49]: [653.8, 656.1]: In far on that. [0:11:00, 0:11:09]: No, you're not in the whole thing. [0:11:11, 0:11:13]: Yeah. [0:11:21, 0:11:23]: Ready? Mm-hmm. [0:11:27, 0:11:34]: Thank you so much. [0:11:39, 0:11:44]: Be fine. No problem. [0:11:45, 0:11:53]: Okay. Well that reading makes me parts, huh? [0:11:54, 0:11:57]: Oh yeah. [0:12:01, 0:12:05]: The next proclamation we have is Father's Day. So uh [0:12:05, 0:12:14]: Both Councilman Alexander and I are father. So I tell you what, anybody that's out here if you like, if you're a father, if you wanna come on up, come on up if you know. [0:12:15, 0:12:22]: Yeah. This is this is a Father's Day proclamation. Any fathers? If you if you like any fathers, come join me. [0:12:23, 0:12:25]: If not, I'll continue I'll [0:12:27, 0:12:32]: Your father all right, all right. Come on, Mr. Your father, come on up here, [0:12:34, 0:12:36]: Father's Day. [0:12:37, 0:12:40]: How about you, Anderson? Ryan, your father? [0:12:44, 0:12:45]: Ryan, you Ryan, your father? [0:12:47, 0:12:49]: Come on, come on, guys. [0:12:52, 0:12:55]: Yeah, I guess I need I guess that I need to speak out. [0:12:56, 0:12:59]: All right, gentlemen. Uh come come on up here, get on. Okay. [0:13:01, 0:13:01]: Okay. [0:13:02, 0:13:07]: All right, so this is a proclamation city star bridge recognizing Father's Day 2024. [0:13:08, 0:13:16]: Whereas a gift of fatherhood requires commitment and dedication to the rising and raising and preparing our children to grow into productive, positive adults. [0:13:16, 0:13:36]: Whereas fathers teach by example the values of love, trust, work, responsibility, and faithfulness to family and others. Whereas we set aside the third Sunday in June to honor our fathers for their valuable contributions and selfless sacrifice. Fathers, whereas fathers impart to the sons and daughters a sense of heritage, duty, responsibilities, [0:13:36, 0:13:39]: as part of their family, friends, community and country. [0:13:39, 0:13:48]: Whereas in homes across the great nation, state, and local communities, we look to the fathers to provide the strength and stability which recognize a successful family. [0:13:48, 0:13:58]: And whereas if the father's responsibilities are many, his rewards are also great, the love, appreciation, respect of children and spouse, there is a desire to acknowledge publicly [0:13:58, 0:14:18]: these feelings to have for their fathers and of the beloved Stockbridge community. Now therefore I Anthony's for by virtue of authority less than me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Yolanda, Barber, Kyle Berry, LakeesaGantt, and Afonso Thomas, to hereby recognize June 16, 2024, as Father's Day in the Great City of Stockbridge. Let us honor [0:14:18, 0:14:33]: honor our fathers, living and deceased, and show them the love and gratitude they deserve. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand, the great seal city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the tenth day of June, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty four. And I signed a proclamation along with our cliff with Nessal Holiday. [0:14:34, 0:14:37]: [878.9, 884.7]: Now I have to admit I have to admit my my on my own father passed away five years ago, but I think about him often. [0:14:44, 0:14:53]: Uh so uh gentlemen, you're all fathers. So I uh any comments? Any comments, any fathers you have any comments at all? F I mean really. [0:14:54, 0:14:58]: Mr. Alexander, uh why you ha I'm I know you probably have some comments, I would imagine. [0:14:58, 0:15:18]: You go ahead, Pray. Well, but I got well I'll you know I can give you the proclamation. Go ahead. So, what kind of comments do you have? Well, I just want to thank uh all the fathers out there if you're tuning in and everyone up here recognizing the contribution of fathers in the community and everything that you do uh to make sure and sustain the [0:15:18, 0:15:38]: Community and to protect the village and do everything necessary to make the city prosperous. Understand, statistics don't lie. Fathers matter in the household and doing what we do and to make sure that we are fostering a family and doing what's necessary to be involved in the children's lives. [0:15:38, 0:15:58]: Because even though fathers who are not in the home are actively involved in their child's life and making a difference. And so let's make sure that we continue to recognize the contributions of fathers not just today, but every day, three hundred and sixty-five days a year. [0:15:58, 0:16:04]: Anybody else? Anybody come on gentlemen, we're gonna take a picture. Come on, we're gonna take a picture. Anybody else have any comments that you wanna make? [0:16:05, 0:16:25]: Well I know you're all great men, all great fathers. So uh let's let's double up. Come on, come on, so let's kinda get in here tight. Remember, you have to have a different uh second row. You jumped on the book. [0:16:25, 0:16:27]: Oh, it's my own. [0:16:40, 0:16:41]: Mm-hmm. [0:16:41, 0:16:50]: Probably not. We got a limited amount of time. Yeah, we're limited. [0:16:52, 0:16:52]: Mm. [0:16:55, 0:17:07]: We got one more proclamation. Stand by folks. Uh yeah. Oh C okay C is here. Okay. All right. Okay. Well come on up. Y'all come on? [0:17:08, 0:17:16]: All right, so this this proclamation here is for LGBTQ and National Pride Month. So anybody wants to re recognize or as I read this, come on up. [0:17:17, 0:17:17]: Okay. [0:17:20, 0:17:31]: How you doing? How you doing? Good. I said thank you for making it all short. I was here at Saturday. Absolutely. No, I know you said you were gonna be late. Anybody else at all? Okay. [0:17:31, 0:17:44]: And co how you doing by the way? I'm fine, how are you? Anybody else wanna join us, feel free to join us as well. We wanna make sure everybody feels welcome here. Feel free to join us. Anyone else to join us? Okay. [0:17:45, 0:18:05]: Proclamation, City Stockbridge, and recognition of LGBTQ and National Pride Month. Whereas June is Pride Month, although it runs through June 30th, Pride Month typically wraps up with a series of events scheduled on or about June 28th, the anniversary of Stonewall Rising. Whereas in June 1969, a courageous group of Americans rolled [0:18:05, 0:18:25]: Goes up to protest the violence and materialism, marginalism, excuse me, they face in what became known as the Stonewall Uprising. Police have raided the Stonewall Inn, a gay bar located in New York City. And for the next six days, they clashed with LGBTQ plus protesters who bravely [0:18:25, 0:18:45]: Stood their ground. The courage sparked the civil rights movement for the liberation of the LGBTQ plus community and changed the nation forever. Whereas during lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and intersexual LGBTQ plus Pride Month reflects on the progress we made as a nation in the [0:18:45, 0:18:55]: fight for justice, inclusion and equality, while reaffirming a commitment to do more about more to support LGBTQ plus rights at home and abroad. [0:18:56, 0:19:08]: Whereas all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights, LGBTQ plus individuals have had immeasurable impact on to cultural, civic and economic successes to our of our country. [0:19:09, 0:19:29]: Whereas, while society at large increasingly supports LGBTQ plus, equality is essential to the knowledge acknowledgement that needs to for the need of education, awareness remains vital to the end discrimination and prejudice. Whereas this nation is founded on the principle that every individual has [0:19:29, 0:19:49]: In definite uh dignity and work. The city of Stockbridge embraces the principle of and we will continue to work to eliminate prejudice everywhere it exists. Now therefore our Anthony Sforr, by virtue of authority, vesting me, is the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members out, now Zandy, Londa, Barber Cowberry, Lakeesha Gantt and Afonso Thomas, you [0:19:49, 0:20:01]: We hereby proclaim June 2024 as National Pride Month and call upon the Sustabbers community to recognize the achievements of LGBTQ plus community and to celebrate the great diversity in America. [0:20:01, 0:20:20]: And witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the tenth day of June, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty four. And I signed a proclamation along with our clerk Winness Olive. And I'd like to issue this to you. Oh, thank you. Thank you. No, you have we have no comments at all. [0:20:21, 0:20:34]: I just like to say thank you to the city of Stockbridge for acknowledging the LGBTQ plus community. There are a lot of us here. You make us feel welcome and we will continue to contribute to the community. [0:20:35, 0:20:36]: Oh really? [0:20:37, 0:20:39]: So you know we want to take a picture over here? [0:20:40, 0:20:40]: Yeah. [0:20:41, 0:20:46]: So that should be right. This is good for this part. Okay. Okay, sure. Come on. [0:20:48, 0:20:57]: [1263.2, 1268.6]: Thank you. All right. Thank you all for the [0:21:09, 0:21:20]: Okay, you said now. You too. All right ladies and gentlemen, that is the the last of our proclamations and part of our uh ceremonial portion for the meeting. It's ten minutes to six, so we'll start the meeting at six o'clock. All right? [0:21:22, 0:21:25]: So relax yourself and stand by, okay? [0:22:53, 0:22:57]: Council, let's let's take our seats so we can get started with the meeting, please. [0:23:11, 0:23:13]: Gentlemen, let's uh let's start the meeting. [0:23:35, 0:23:37]: Ladies and gentlemen, I have six oh one. [0:23:37, 0:23:42]: I'd like to start our city council meeting dated um Monday, June nineteenth. [0:23:44, 0:23:51]: Excuse me, June tenth. I got Juneteenth on my mind. I can't wait to that celebration. Monday, June tenth, okay, six oh one. [0:23:52, 0:23:55]: Invocation, uh Miss Jackson, please, could you come to the mic? [0:23:56, 0:23:59]: Please stand folks if you're willing to do and can do so. [0:24:01, 0:24:02]: Make sure the mic's on for you, please. [0:24:03, 0:24:04]: Is the green light showing? [0:24:06, 0:24:07]: There you go. Thank you. [0:24:08, 0:24:12]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. May we all bow our heads. [0:24:12, 0:24:32]: I pray for this council meeting tonight. Give the council members wisdom and guidance as they deliberate on the items before them. May every decision be righteous in your sight, for our benefit and for your glory. In the name of the Father, of the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Amen. We will pledge allegiance. [0:24:32, 0:24:45]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the world for which is hands, one nation under God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. [0:24:47, 0:24:49]: Anclock uh Rokaw, please. [0:24:50, 0:24:52]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Berry. [0:24:54, 0:25:14]: Let the record reflect Mayor Berry. Mayor Pro Tanberry is not in attendance. Councilmember Alexander. Present. Councilmember Barber. Present. Councilmember Gantt. Present. Council Member Thomas. Present. Mayor Cord, you have a call. I thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate it. Uh Council, I have before me, there's a motion before me to amend. [0:25:14, 0:25:20]: To remove item number six, the lottery to be put to be published, and announce at a future [0:25:21, 0:25:28]: date to be determined. Is there a second to that motion? Or is there a motion to say so moved or a second? So move. Is there a second? [0:25:28, 0:25:34]: I second. Okay, from uh from Mr. Alexander to Miss Gann. All in favor, please indicate. [0:25:34, 0:25:45]: Okay, thank you, Namus. Thank you very much. So ladies and gentlemen, item six will not be seen this evening. All right, so on that note, I need a motion to adopt the reining the remaining of the agenda, please. [0:25:45, 0:25:57]: Mayor. Yes sir. If I would like to make a note, I think there was a previous advertisement that um there was a rezoning on Hudson Bridge Road for tonight, but it will not be heard tonight'cause I don't see it on the agenda either. [0:25:58, 0:26:07]: Uh what item you referring to, sir? Well, it wasn't only agenda, but I think that there was some confusion about that being on this agenda tonight, but it's not. Okay. Yeah. [0:26:09, 0:26:11]: Ma'am may applaus. Yes, ma'am. [0:26:12, 0:26:20]: It's my understanding that the Planning Commission deferred the item, so it has to go back to the Planning Commission before it can come to the council. [0:26:21, 0:26:25]: Okay. [0:26:30, 0:26:35]: Who's who's determined if the applicant will give me some information cannot be decided to refer? [0:26:36, 0:26:54]: Okay. That's why it's not on the agenda tonight. Yes. Okay? So so be it. Ms. Alexander? Yes, thank you. Okay. So moved. All right. Uh so move to the amendment to the uh rest of the agenda. Yes. If so moved, is there a second to the motion? My second. Ms Ms. Gantt, second and all in favor, please indicate. [0:26:55, 0:27:11]: All right, we'll go forward with the agenda. Before you council, you have the adoption of the minutes, um, the adoption of minutes for May thirteenth, the city uh city council meeting May thirteenth, and also city work session, council work session on the twenty eighth. Is there a motion to uh to approve those minutes, please? [0:27:12, 0:27:17]: So move. Okay, Mr. Alzheimer's, is there a second? Ms. Barber, second that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:27:18, 0:27:22]: Okay, unanimous decision on that moment as well. Uh Madam Clerk, any public comments at all? [0:27:24, 0:27:24]: Okay. [0:27:25, 0:27:36]: Ladies and gentlemen, before we started a meeting tonight, we had uh uh several different ceremonial type of presentations. First of all, uh we recognize uh a couple of our own employees. [0:27:37, 0:27:57]: Um Miss Unita Sellers, um or ten years of of working in the city of Stockbridge and she says she's gonna be around for another twenty, so I said, Okay, fantastic. And uh Stephanie Milton uh for special recognition doing a great job down in the in the um in his in the office downstairs dealing with all you the customers and all the [0:27:57, 0:28:06]: anybody coming in for do businesses in the in this aspect. So uh those ladies were identified and recognized and honored in that aspect as well. [0:28:07, 0:28:27]: We have proclamations for Municipal Court Clerks Week, and we have several members of our court clerk that were here present for that as well. We want to recognize all the good work they're doing. And uh a proclamation reference to Juneteenth, and uh we will have a Juneteenth celebration, of course, here soon, in another nine days city event. It'll be third year in a row. [0:28:27, 0:28:47]: That will have that event. And obviously that's in recognition of individuals, African Americans finally receiving, an entire country finally receiving that the fact that the Civil War has ended and they're free from slavery. And so we want to recognize that as well. And then we recognize Pride Month here in the city of Stockbridge. [0:28:47, 0:29:07]: And Miss Lisa Carter received uh that particular proclamation. And we recognize Father's Day. We had several of us that were joined for that, include myself and Miss Alizander, several other staff members, gentlemen that are fathers, and so we want to give them recognition as well. A lot of times the recognition normally goes to mothers, but there [0:29:07, 0:29:21]: our fathers so and we do our part as well so we wanted to make sure we did that. On that note I have a um next on the agenda would be a a public hearing. May I we'll go back to the public comments. [0:29:21, 0:29:26]: Oh yeah, oh I missed that. Yes we did. Um Mr. Lewis Fonseca. [0:29:26, 0:29:35]: Okay. Okay, go right here, I'm sorry. Come on up come up, sir, if you have public comment and uh give your name and address. You get three minutes, sir. [0:29:44, 0:29:49]: That's i is a green light on, sir? Green light? Okay, go ahead, please. [0:29:49, 0:30:09]: Uh good afternoon, everyone. My name is Louis Van Seca. I'm actually uh I come from New York City and did this back for the past two years. Okay. Unfortunately I'm not I'm standing here and had to make great comments. It's unfortunate to tell you that the police department you have sort of people that are racist against my Latin community. [0:30:09, 0:30:17]: the clean spackage. And that's very disappointing because I thought it's supposed to protect the serve. [0:30:17, 0:30:33]: You know, and we need to start paying attention to all that. We provide a lot of a lot for the for the community. Also, over the weekend, you know, I also represent Royal Sports Park, yeah, down down on North Liverpool Park. [0:30:34, 0:30:54]: And our company was raided by the city. I don't know who made the phone for me on the audio of you guys. If you make the phone to shut us down, I would appreciate for you to start talking to us and start doing great business and protect the local businesses. We're here to support the LA community, the Korean. [0:30:54, 0:31:14]: community which we have a lot of community in this in the city you know to work together with the city we are bringing a lot of business to the city and actually one of you guys shut us down and that's a very paid move we start we need to start working together and this very disappointing you affect other people you help but [0:31:13, 0:31:33]: A lot of people that need second chance because they get out of jail. And we can work to make sure to support the children. It is unfortunate because I started doing my research. It's very upsetting and I'm very [0:31:33, 0:31:53]: I'm very disappointed to say this. One of them are the police department, like I mentioned. You need to start looking into that because like I said, we were very uh we were treated like criminals over the weekend, like pigs, and that's the way the boss was supposed to work. Let's do this thing the right way. [0:31:53, 0:32:13]: proper way and I know how I know exactly how they move because I used to work for city council in the mayor in New York City. So you know you have a person like myself that speaks three languages that you could actually use to work together with the city. But no right now you don't have to access because we're being shut down. We can't work here. We're being kicked [0:32:13, 0:32:33]: Out instead of kicking us out, why don't we just educate businesses to make sure we do the right moves, the right things which we want to proper progress, not to delete us from the city? And that's how I feel this community right now. Very disappointing. And a lot of the community, Korean, Afro-American, was very happy with what we were doing. [0:32:33, 0:32:53]: doing at what you're supposed to are you know bringing businesses uh to the big uh into where you're uh into stack which is very important because we could work together we could build this together you know thank you and i'm sorry for for being very very upset but whoever did make that phone call think about it before you do have [0:32:53, 0:33:00]: because you know that community is ready to come out and protest about this move and then you just it's a right. [0:33:00, 0:33:12]: Thank you for the comments. We'll check further into this. The first I've heard of it. I don't know if the council knew anything about this before, but we'll check further in into your concerns, sir. Any other and that's that's the only comment? Uh yes. Ms. Suzette Wilkinson. [0:33:13, 0:33:18]: Mayor Ford. [0:33:19, 0:33:25]: Yes, um yeah, you go ahead, sir. Um I I didn't get the name of the sports bar. [0:33:27, 0:33:33]: Okay. Royal. Right. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Go come on, ma'am. Your name and address, please. [0:33:41, 0:33:42]: Okay. [0:33:45, 0:33:47]: Uh taxes would be [0:33:47, 0:34:00]: lower that it wouldn't affect us, but in actuality we were not told like I have homestead exams with Henry County. I was not told prior that I would have to file a separate homestead exam. [0:34:00, 0:34:02]: What the city of Stockwell is. [0:34:02, 0:34:10]: Also, we were built, I was built$264 for trash, and then they came and took one of my trash can. [0:34:10, 0:34:29]: When I requ inquired about getting the can back, they told me under the city ordinance, you're only entitled to one can and in order to get the second can back, I would have to pay additional thirty-six dollars quarterly. Which in actuality that takes me from paying$192 a year. [0:34:29, 0:34:44]: To$264 plus in order to get my other can back, that's an additional$144. So that takes me a disabled resident to$404 a year for the same trash that I was paying$192 for. [0:34:45, 0:35:05]: And then you have other people in the subdivision that are paying cycle works, and they don't realize that they're being billed through the city of Stockbridge for their training. So they're being double paid. Then I have an elderly neighbor that lives next door. Their son takes care of their bills. He wasn't aware. He's still paying waste management, but he was [0:35:05, 0:35:09]: Bill and his parents will bill the two hundred and sixty-four dollars for trade. [0:35:09, 0:35:15]: So why are they still accepting payments from the people in the neighborhood but they're getting paid through the city? [0:35:17, 0:35:35]: All right, well I'll tell you we'll have to check into this. Obviously you as a as city residents you have two trash cans. You have a regular trash can and you have a recyclable can. You're supposed to have also a recyclable as well, ca w everybody gets recyc has recyclable service. Uh the city manager's taking note of this, we'll have to get you got your name and address and we'll have to follow up with this ask this for you, okay? [0:35:40, 0:35:41]: I had two tradifications. [0:35:41, 0:35:44]: And I'll be paid forty eight dollars for [0:35:44, 0:35:51]: Now I'm telling being told in order to get my old can bash. I'm gonna have to pay separately to get that can. [0:35:51, 0:36:03]: All right. Mr. Gardner, take a note of this please so we can follow up with this. This is resident. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. All right. Um no further comments. Okay, thank you. On that note. [0:36:05, 0:36:08]: We're going to public hearing, ladies and gentlemen. And so um [0:36:09, 0:36:11]: When we go into public hearing, um [0:36:15, 0:36:19]: Let me go I'm gonna read this now and then uh then Ryan you'll give you a briefing. All right. [0:36:20, 0:36:40]: Public hearing rules, please mute all mute all your cell phones and other electronic devices. 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Please refrain from applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, which is me, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to members of the council, staff, or the audience. [0:37:31, 0:37:51]: All comments will be made from the podium where you will be where you'll be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than [0:37:50, 0:38:10]: applicant no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part or part of his time, his or her speaking time, as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire 10 minutes to allow for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. [0:38:10, 0:38:11]: Yeah. [0:38:11, 0:38:29]: Providing officer will call for a motion and second to that motion and have a necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. The first item for public hearing deals with text amendment case tx. [0:38:30, 0:38:50]: That's two zero two four-four for housing shelters citywide. Consideration of tax amendment to the Stock Bridge Unified Development Code UDC to allow for the location of various types of housing shelters within the C2 General Commercial, C three, heavy commercial, OI office institutional, and [0:38:50, 0:39:06]: ally light industrial zoning districts use as special uses requiring the approval of the special use permit through the public hearing process. Planning commission recommendation 05 on 1624 denied that. Mr. Ryan please. [0:39:07, 0:39:16]: Good evening. Um the yes, the Planning Commission did recommend denial. However, they were um mostly influenced by um unincorporated [0:39:16, 0:39:19]: Henry County residents. Uh no one from the city spoke. [0:39:20, 0:39:22]: Uh out against this text amendment. [0:39:24, 0:39:28]: Um the general definition of um of what we're proposing. [0:39:29, 0:39:33]: An amendment to our UDC is a sh it will be ca is a specialized housing facility. [0:39:34, 0:39:37]: Is a shelter home a refuge for those in urgent needs. [0:39:37, 0:39:53]: or in times of emergency, it is designed to provide temporary living accommodation to individuals, family families who are experiencing homelessness in general. We have we have proposed three different types of shelters. Tier one, a shelter providing specialized housing, [0:39:53, 0:39:59]: Whose primary purpose is to provide temporary shelter for no more than thirty days, uh a tier two shelter. [0:39:59, 0:40:03]: A shelter providing homelessness services whose primary purpose [0:40:03, 0:40:06]: Is provide temporary shelter for no more than six months. [0:40:06, 0:40:13]: And a tier three shelter, which is a long term shelter, which is to provide temporary shelter for no more than one year. [0:40:18, 0:40:33]: Um like in the in the agenda item that the mayor read, um to operate one of these facilities you still have to come before the city council to get a special use permit. Uh they will be allowed in uh OI, C2, C three. [0:40:33, 0:40:40]: and L I they will not be allowed in the downtown overlay district or the parkway mixed use overlay district. [0:40:40, 0:40:49]: Uh, we're amending section three point one of the UDC, the table to add specialized housing facilities as a special use. [0:40:51, 0:41:00]: Um listed in section D are the sec are the requirements um in rel in relation to setbacks and buffering and things of that nature. [0:41:02, 0:41:05]: Uh the the map on the screen right now is [0:41:05, 0:41:12]: Is all the of all the potential locations for a specialized housing facility. As you can see, it's not allowed in the DT. [0:41:12, 0:41:25]: Downtown Overlay District or the PMU, the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. Uh the parcels available are all zone L I, C2, OI, and C I mean C two, C three, L I and O I. [0:41:26, 0:41:33]: And uh on the map lists all the potential locations for those facil types of facilities. Uh we feel like [0:41:34, 0:41:54]: This potenti uh particular text amendment is needed to help combat um the issue we have with the unhoused in the city because currently there is no provision allowed to uh no provision in the UDC to allow for these types of facilities. And we feel like this will be beneficial for the public health and safety of the overall city. [0:41:54, 0:41:58]: So staff uh staff recommended approval of this. [0:42:00, 0:42:05]: Okay. All right. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Council, questions that you may have? [0:42:09, 0:42:11]: Ms. Ms. Barber, are you ready for a do you have a question? [0:42:12, 0:42:12]: Okay. [0:42:13, 0:42:21]: Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Um what's driving this change? Did you get a request or something? [0:42:22, 0:42:38]: N not not not in particular. I mean we just um we have several uh citizens, um residents complaining about our the housing encampments and things of that nature and uh people in need don't have a place to go within the city. [0:42:39, 0:42:43]: So we felt like it was uh done, it needed to be done out of a need basis. [0:42:48, 0:43:08]: Thank you, sir. All right. So let me ask go ahead. So there's no particular applicant or anything at this time. This is just a preemptory a preemptory preemptive move. Yeah, we're trying in anticipation of something that may or may not happen in the future. Well, we have several people that want to apply for one of these facilities, however [0:43:08, 0:43:15]: Or uh we don't have an application process for it, or we don't have any provisions in the UDC to allow them to. But we get inquiries all the time. [0:43:16, 0:43:35]: Right. I d uh I didn't hear you so this this the are these allowed in residential areas potentially no only C two, C three, O I and L I only districts and uh and they are excluded from the downtown overlay district area and the Parkway mixed use overlay area. [0:43:35, 0:43:49]: So how were how were the uh i uh y how did you go about the process of determining the location? Did you have consultation with the particular vendors or you how d how did you formulate these particular loc go back to the locations if you [0:43:50, 0:44:10]: Staff and I um we basically made the determination we wouldn't want these type of facilities in in our areas, but we're where we were trying to encourage growth and we want and we don't want them in our residential areas. So um and and we did some comparative analysis with what other cities have and these are the four districts that most [0:44:10, 0:44:13]: other cities have these types of facilities located in. [0:44:14, 0:44:16]: Okay, l put the map back up there if you wouldn't. [0:44:21, 0:44:41]: Wait a minute. And if it would be helpful, I've had several individuals approach me or come to my office, have conversations with me about this issue. So I talked further with Mr. Gardner and uh about what how what we can do if it can need to accommodate this. And that's what drive Mr. An uh Anderson to do some research on this and bring it back before the council to see if this is something that the council [0:44:41, 0:44:48]: we want to do. So that's how that I believe this how this got started with conversations initially some of the citizens had with me when it came to visit me. [0:44:49, 0:44:56]: Okay. Thank you for that. I want to follow up when it gets to the back up. Hey Demetris. [0:44:58, 0:44:59]: Was the victor. [0:45:01, 0:45:02]: Like you. [0:45:09, 0:45:09]: Oh. [0:45:11, 0:45:15]: I can't get it to go back to slide number seven. What you got in um? [0:45:15, 0:45:16]: Slides up. [0:45:28, 0:45:30]: One more is that one. [0:45:32, 0:45:35]: Mm. There we go. [0:45:38, 0:45:58]: Okay, so these areas that are indicated aren't traditional uh residential areas that you have outlined. Is that what you indicated? Uh no sir. Uh these are C two, C three, L I and O O I districts. And the properties are already zoned for those the in those designation as you've indicated. [0:45:58, 0:46:18]: Yes, sir. Okay, certainly, Mayor, I certainly do concur uh with the need uh and uh Miss Councilwoman Barber and I actually served on a commission uh seeking to do something similar to this to be able to provide a a homeless shelter working [0:46:18, 0:46:38]: With the county partners, and at some point when uh the funding is available or entity is present, then uh we would need some locations in the city uh as potential locations for this. Obviously, you know, folks will be sensitive to uh the locations and because of the population. [0:46:38, 0:46:58]: You're dealing with you certainly want to be very sympathetic as we encounter the homeless population weekly at my food drive. And I'm sure uh Miss Linda Jones and cur and in uh comes in contact with them frequently during her food drive and all the nonprofit organizations, and we're scrambling because we don't have the resources. [0:46:57, 0:47:17]: To do so. So I do believe this is a very necessary move in order to have these done. But certainly they got to be done right in partnership with the community so that when funding does become available, we see it every day out there at the interstate. We see it at re-retail locations. [0:47:17, 0:47:37]: With people panhandling. And then we had a situation where Councilwoman Barber and I participated in this commission where we were looking to establish a homeless shelter. And during the cold weather, when it was so cold, and they went out and they were [0:47:37, 0:47:57]: actually picking up folks in various areas of the city because it was so cold in the wintertime that the death was a real, real possibility. And housing these individuals in hotels, that was what they were forced to do. So certainly this is necessary. I just want to make sure we're [0:47:57, 0:48:17]: Doing it in line with what's what's appropriate for the city and that uh they're in appropriate locations. Yes, we follow national um standards uh when we devise this text amendment. Uh we put it in the most familiar familiar districts that other cities nationwide have these. [0:48:17, 0:48:20]: facilities permission to be located in. [0:48:24, 0:48:37]: So uh the vendors that you talked to, did anybody express a desire for a particular location? Uh no sir. It didn't it didn't go that far because after we told them we don't have a provision in our UDC for it, uh it just kinda was left at that. [0:48:39, 0:48:42]: Thank you. Any other questions from the council? [0:48:45, 0:49:00]: Any other questions from the council? Good. All right. So if that's the if that's no one of the questions, then obviously are we gonna make a change. Yeah, we need a public hearing. I'm sorry, sir. Public hearing. Uh yes, thank you, sir. It is a public hearing. You're absolutely right. [0:49:01, 0:49:17]: Before we start the public here. Talk about these locations. The map is kinda small. So you can blow up each location uh that that you had some determination for so folks can can see that. I see that. Um [0:49:19, 0:49:39]: Looks like the majority of them are in my district. Or well I'm not necessarily in uh Marypro Tim's district. Well'cause they're north of Eagles Land. There can only um there can only be three, one of each, one Tier One, one Tier Two, and one Tier Three in the city. So there won't be a proliferation of of these types of facilities. Okay. So there can only be [0:49:39, 0:49:40]: Be three. [0:49:43, 0:49:48]: Okay, so this uh the lo the one that's right there by Eagles Landing Parkway, that is in the business center, correct? [0:49:48, 0:50:08]: Yeah, um I mean some of these these properties could be are um could be filled already. Um they're not necessarily vacant. Um but these this is just an example or illustration of the LI the C C two, C three, OI, and LI parcels in the city as a whole. So some of them could be taken. [0:50:08, 0:50:09]: Bacon uh [0:50:16, 0:50:36]: Okay, if no other questions, then uh what I'd like to do is uh is open this up further for the for the public to uh give the comments. So if you're interested in approving or this one having good comments about what has been presented, uh from the very my very uh left section, is anybody wants to speak on this? [0:50:36, 0:50:56]: This in reference to it being a good thing to do in the city. Anybody on my left that wanna speak? And if that's the case, I need for you to line up on the right there in the in the aisleway if you're gonna if you wanna speak. Anybody in the middle wanna speak? This is four. Anybody four? This in the middle. [0:50:56, 0:50:59]: [3059.6, 3060.2]: Four. [0:51:01, 0:51:02]: Okay. [0:51:02, 0:51:05]: If you're the one four man, come to your mic, give your name and address, please. [0:51:08, 0:51:09]: Make sure the green light is on. [0:51:10, 0:51:25]: Good evening, Mayor Ford and the council members and all city stock of Stockbridge residents. Mrs. Paula Neely, 165 Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia. There is a need. There is a [0:51:25, 0:51:26]: Critical need. [0:51:27, 0:51:29]: It has been addressed on the neighborhood [0:51:29, 0:51:30]: Email. [0:51:30, 0:51:34]: Від концерс абої тоді а за ситі. [0:51:34, 0:51:36]: For those that are homeless and in need. [0:51:37, 0:51:52]: many times coming out of the Walmart on Hudson Bridge, giving. We have seen many sleeping under the tower that says City of Stockbridge there at the corners of Rockbridge. [0:51:52, 0:51:55]: And Hudson Bridge. It's a shame. [0:51:55, 0:51:56]: It's a shame. [0:51:56, 0:51:58]: We're all God's children. [0:51:58, 0:51:59]: And they need help. [0:52:00, 0:52:20]: Because it could be us. But by the grace of God, there go I. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, if there are no other comments for comments that may be against and that that say that we don't want to do this, you know what the council to do this, that's against this. Anybody in my far left that wants to speak? My far left. [0:52:20, 0:52:28]: Anybody in the middle? Please, it's line up right there, please. Anybody in the middle who want to speak against this? Anyone by far right. [0:52:29, 0:52:31]: Okay, ma'am, please name and address. [0:52:36, 0:52:56]: Uh the green light is on Mayor. Okay. And uh my name is uh Jocelyn Williams, one ninety Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, three oh two eight one. Uh just like other residents, I totally agree with us being able to form three Tier One, Tier Two, and Tier Three. My only question is as a resident, I came to the last meeting when I don't understand or [0:52:56, 0:53:16]: Or not allowed to ask questions, I go to the opposition. Opposition because I want it at least to be documented that at least one person didn't understand because how many occupants will be in a building. I think I saw uh I live near Oak, uh Red Oak, uh is there and Banks Road is there. [0:53:15, 0:53:35]: Uh that there is a industrial area near me and I was just wondering um is that where one of the tiers will be and if it's a tier, what tier is it? So uh my opposition is because I don't understand and because I don't have enough information, but there is a need. I'm just opposing because I don't understand [0:53:35, 0:53:43]: And when given an opportunity to sit in on the discussion, but it's nothing I can do because it was approved. And I thank you so much. [0:53:44, 0:53:48]: M Mr Ryan, could you come back and further explain the different tier system for folks for their understanding? [0:53:52, 0:54:05]: Yes, sir. Uh a tier one facility, you um person can shelter there for up to thirty days. A tier two s uh shelter, a person can shelter there for up to six months, and a tier three up to a year. [0:54:05, 0:54:05]: Okay. [0:54:06, 0:54:11]: So I'm sorry, follow up. How many people would be basically Uh we got that in the regulations, let me see. [0:54:26, 0:54:41]: And for clarification, even if we did move forward with this particular um amendment and we approved at those locations, as you indicated, they would still have to come back to the council for uh final approval. [0:54:42, 0:55:02]: For a special use permit, yes. For a special use permit. So it would never would be the final step, so whatever details would be provided before any final approval or a special a special permit was issued. Yes, sir. That's correct. They would have to come back before council and fill out a special use application, go through the public hearing process. They would have to [0:55:01, 0:55:21]: Meet with her, meet with the affected. Well, it's not in a residential uh neighborhood, but the the closest affected neighborhood. They will have to attend a a CZIM, our new CZIM meeting. They will have to attend the Planning Commission meeting, and then they will come back before city council, and it will be advertised in the newspapers, and everybody would be. [0:55:21, 0:55:23]: [3324.0, 3325.0]: Mm-hmm. [0:55:25, 0:55:26]: Right. [0:55:26, 0:55:31]: Stand by any other questions for Mr. Ryan? Any other questions, concerns you council may have? [0:55:36, 0:55:45]: Well none of them can ex exceed forty beds. On supplemental regulations, um no more than fi forty beds are to be maintained within the shelter. [0:55:47, 0:55:49]: You said no more than forty beds? Yes, yes. [0:55:51, 0:55:52]: Is that for what tier? [0:55:52, 0:55:59]: Uh that's for all tiers. For all tiers. Yes. You there it goes on the screen. It's um item is uh alphabet number E. [0:56:01, 0:56:04]: These are the regulations governing the process. [0:56:09, 0:56:10]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [0:56:10, 0:56:20]: Thank you. Um I just wanna say that this has been an ongoing discussion on Nextdoor and other social media outlets. Um I think that we all [0:56:20, 0:56:31]: um understand that and hope that the I hope. I'm definitely in support of this. I'm in hope that um my colleagues are too. I have confidence that they are. [0:56:31, 0:56:32]: Um [0:56:32, 0:56:37]: because there is a need. Um and there's a need w throughout, not just Stockbridge. [0:56:37, 0:56:40]: But when I say c colleagues, that includes [0:56:41, 0:56:43]: My sister cities and our county. [0:56:43, 0:56:45]: Um in as a whole. [0:56:45, 0:56:48]: From Hampton, Locust Grove, McDonough. [0:56:48, 0:56:50]: Um and throughout. And I think [0:56:51, 0:56:54]: That stock bridge I applaud all of us and our staff. [0:56:55, 0:56:57]: And you mayor for taking the lead. [0:56:58, 0:57:00]: on something that this county hasn't had. [0:57:00, 0:57:03]: And unfortunately, when I first got [0:57:03, 0:57:06]: on council back in twenty fourteen. [0:57:07, 0:57:14]: Um and even before then I was told and even when we found out that there was a need for the community, we were told that [0:57:14, 0:57:18]: Shelters weren't warned it here because if you bring a shelter [0:57:19, 0:57:20]: You bring [0:57:20, 0:57:20]: And [0:57:21, 0:57:22]: homeless people. [0:57:23, 0:57:24]: Буре all [0:57:25, 0:57:27]: uh people of love. [0:57:27, 0:57:34]: And um with those shelters come, hopefully the right non profit will come. [0:57:35, 0:57:48]: Um we have now designated and found out locations we we're ahead of the curve and I applaud us for being ahead of the curve. We're spearheading this and I hope that other our county and our s other cities will follow. Um [0:57:50, 0:57:54]: If anyone is hearing that loud and clear, um, I I think that [0:57:55, 0:57:55]: Um [0:57:57, 0:58:15]: It's definitely a need and I hope that we all as a community embrace and love and understand that there are people who whether they need mental help, um, hopefully it's a facility that helps get people back on their feet, whether there are some moms with kids, we've had some shelters for that. [0:58:15, 0:58:25]: Um, who knows? But I I'm I'm glad that we're doing this and I thank you for tasking staff to do this. I think this is important to all of us. We see it all the time. [0:58:26, 0:58:35]: Okay, any other comments for the council? Um Ms. Barbagoy, please. I have a question for Mr. Anderson. Does this include like transitional housing? [0:58:36, 0:58:37]: Um [0:58:39, 0:58:42]: Like if a person lose their home and they're trying to to [0:58:43, 0:58:47]: So there are programs where um [0:58:47, 0:59:06]: Entities can purchase a residential home and use that um as a way to no mail. So it doesn't include like programming for this. This is just for the text amendment. Yes, yes ma'am. In our code. Yes, sir. Thank you, sir. Mayor Ford, um if there are no other questions, I'd like to make a motion. Go right ahead, please. [0:59:07, 0:59:22]: Go right ahead. A motion to approve the text amendment for housing shelters. Second. Okay. May the second. All favor please indicate Mr. NAMS decision. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Thank you, Council. [0:59:23, 0:59:25]: Now we have um [0:59:25, 0:59:45]: Well c well s I'll say to you, we'll close out that particular public hearing, but we have another item, so we'll have another public hearing here. Uh rezoning case R Z twenty twenty-three-zero five, City Council District two. Consideration of a request to rezone three parcels on Davison Parkway and walked away from C three heavy commercial to the PU [0:59:45, 1:00:05]: Planned unit development to allow for mixed residential development. The applicant is D. R. Horton, Atlanta East, represented by Tiffany D. Hogan. The property contains three parcels, are listed below in the landlot fifty-seven of District 12 with 79.16 plus minus total acres. [1:00:05, 1:00:25]: Commission recommendation on 092823 denial. Council action on 12-1123 deferred per applicant's request, deferred by applicant on also on four April 18th, 24 and May 13, 24. Council meetings. Community held meetings, uh community meeting held [1:00:25, 1:00:45]: on May first of twenty four. Parcel number zero three zero dash zero one zero zero nine zero zero zero contains seventy three point eight five nine acres. Parcel number zero three zero dash zero one zero zero nine zero zero five contains three point six three six acres and parcel number [1:00:45, 1:01:01]: number 030-01009006 contains 1.369 acres. Mr. Anderson, please. Okay. Thank you. All right. On the screen now is an aerial photo of the low of the site. [1:01:01, 1:01:04]: Of the large parcel, there are three parcels of land. [1:01:07, 1:01:12]: Here's the second parcel. It's a smaller parcel. Located front known Walter Way. [1:01:14, 1:01:20]: Uh parcel three is the smaller of the three parcel it fronts on Davidson Parkway. Um [1:01:22, 1:01:31]: Staff originally um recommended denial of the project. However, our uh analysis was was based on um an LCI study that that is more than twelve years old. [1:01:32, 1:01:45]: And usually um the standard for a study is um 10 years. Um here is uh 2023 zoning map of the property. You can see that it's zone C three. [1:01:47, 1:02:00]: The Future Land Use Map, uh Low Density Mixed Vertical Originally, but uh when we adopted our comp plan back in October we changed it to uh medium density residential. So the applicant didn't need a uh comp plan amendment anymore. [1:02:08, 1:02:28]: So I've I m I made this presentation uh several times before, so I'm not gonna go in too deep on it. Um the surrounding land uses to the north of the property is is vacant land, northwest of the property is Clayton County, south is um vacant land, but it was recently approved by the city via CP 22-04. [1:02:28, 1:02:45]: RZ 2022 05 and DRI 3799 for a major mixed use development off Flippin' Road, which is also known as the Reeves Creek Project, Reeves Creek 2 Project. To the southeast, the automobile refurbishing business. [1:02:45, 1:02:48]: Dry time and also uh staff was made aware uh [1:02:49, 1:03:09]: that if the project isn't approved tonight, that drive time is interest is interested in purchasing the purchasing the property and uh expanding their operations in the area. Um they already have the zoning is C three. So if this project isn't approved, Drive Time will acquire the property and expand their operations in the area. [1:03:09, 1:03:24]: east of the property you got North Ridge Crossing 1 subdivision and that is the group that we met with on May 1st and uh they recommended approval and they were in favor of the project. To the west you got uh Interstate 75 and 675. [1:03:29, 1:03:37]: The applicant plans to construct 296 total units, 168 single-family detached dwellings, and 128 townhomes. [1:03:47, 1:04:05]: Here's the um LCI study that I referenced earlier. It's um it's twelve years old. It was done in twenty twelve and it's kinda outdated at this time because like I previously mentioned, um a plan is usually usually only good for ten years due to the changing conditions and development trends inside of the city. [1:04:10, 1:04:19]: The LCI did reference this particular land as to be commercial and wanted to be site of uh a large scale mixed use development. [1:04:20, 1:04:32]: However, due to the frontage, the lack of frontage for the uh property, um nothing has been developed at this time. Um this is the conceptual site plan for the project. [1:04:35, 1:04:36]: That's the layout. [1:04:41, 1:04:48]: So I I I I don't I don't have any additional um information, Mayor, uh and the applicant is is here. [1:04:48, 1:05:08]: Okay, stand by one second. Mr. Thomas, please. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Okay. Um, just to give a little history, um, this item is in District 2. Uh I've met with the a number of residents in the Homeowns Association. Uh [1:05:08, 1:05:28]: Um Mrs. Hogan has met um with the residents as well. As you mentioned, it's been deferred a couple of times. So we we sort of been in and out with this issue, but what's sort of driving [1:05:28, 1:05:38]: the complexity of this issue, as you mentioned, um, drivetime refurbishing business and [1:05:40, 1:05:45]: that's a history that's been a little baffling because [1:05:45, 1:05:49]: Um past administration allowed [1:05:50, 1:06:05]: um this residential component plus um this other heavy commercial component which does not mix but um it is what it is now. [1:06:05, 1:06:08]: Um, and I've been asked by some council members [1:06:09, 1:06:11]: uh about this issue [1:06:11, 1:06:13]: And at one point we talked about [1:06:14, 1:06:18]: Um this area being a large tract. [1:06:19, 1:06:21]: And would be great for commercial. [1:06:22, 1:06:23]: Excuse me. [1:06:24, 1:06:29]: Because this is one of the um lasting areas that we could come with commercial. [1:06:30, 1:06:50]: And and from my understanding from the residents, and and some of them are here tonight, um, we're not 100% opposed to the mixture with commercial, but it's the unknown of what commercial may come in. But and I don't want to use the word [1:06:50, 1:07:00]: and and I won't use the word, but just the fact that um the present zoning is uh [1:07:00, 1:07:01]: For a heavy commercial. [1:07:02, 1:07:04]: And that's the fear. [1:07:05, 1:07:07]: that I know that many of these um [1:07:08, 1:07:13]: homeowners have is is that if it is denied and if it stays with [1:07:13, 1:07:33]: Uh and you mentioned this as well. If it stays heavy commercial, then that door is open for not only drive time but any other um heavy commercial that can actually come in. Um so that's sort of a little the history, but in meeting with Mrs. [1:07:33, 1:07:36]: Hogan a couple of times and with the residents. [1:07:36, 1:07:39]: We sort of talked about some [1:07:39, 1:07:59]: uh amendments and some some changes uh to the plan and I know she's gonna speak to some of that here shortly. And I think the citizens were and I'm not gonna speak for them, they're gonna be able to speak for themselves. But they was we were sorta okay with with some of the changes. But um [1:07:59, 1:08:19]: From the city standpoint, as far as this track of land being for that commercial. And I'm going to uh year to the concerns of the citizens uh as far as the unknown. Um and and this track [1:08:19, 1:08:39]: Of land is very close to the residential structure. So if you're talking about bringing in commercial and you're talking the unknown, that's that's fearful. So I just want to sort of give counsel a little history that, you know, we have met. [1:08:39, 1:08:51]: several times with the developers and some concessions have been made and hopefully um some of that will come out tonight [1:08:51, 1:08:55]: um that would be satisfactory for [1:08:56, 1:08:58]: um the homeowners and [1:08:58, 1:09:02]: I'm not sure if the council and the city I know we want it [1:09:02, 1:09:04]: A commercial component. [1:09:04, 1:09:09]: I I I just don't know if that's gonna happen tonight, but um [1:09:11, 1:09:25]: My role here tonight is just to share that information. And as again, as a representative for that particular area, I have met with the Homeowners Association of Citizen. So I do have a feel for [1:09:25, 1:09:27]: Uh their concerns. [1:09:27, 1:09:29]: And so I just want to share that. [1:09:30, 1:09:32]: Thank you. Yeah, okay, Ms. Alzheimer, please comment. [1:09:34, 1:09:54]: Uh thank you, Councilman. So certainly you've done the homework and you've done the work and you've met with the residents to uh garner their feedback and we'll hear from them tonight. Uh if you do recall, I certainly wanted to let you take the lead since it's in your district, that um they were tasked with bringing [1:09:54, 1:10:14]: Back a rendition with some amount of commercial before they came back to us. And the idea, as far as I thought, what we were going for was we're gonna try to give the residents in North Bridge Crossing some relief from having those tractors go through the middle. [1:10:14, 1:10:34]: Of their neighborhood. With this particular design, I don't see any pass-through roadway that will connect with the flippin' road development so that residents can have uh so those residents in those new, it's about a thousand units, will have access to Davison Parkway. [1:10:34, 1:10:54]: This neighborhood seems to close off all options going to Davison Parkway. And to me, we went, we took tireless hours in planning that flippin' road development so that this and I and maintain this so that [1:10:54, 1:11:14]: that it would offer those residents some access to Davidson Parkway. And you know, I don't know where maybe I'm just missing it on here, Ryan. Where this looks like it's a closed in subdivision and it does not offer any option to connect to the parcel to the south. So [1:11:14, 1:11:20]: So those residents will have access to Davison Parkway and they won't all have to go off on flipping. [1:11:20, 1:11:32]: Yeah, that's true. I'll let um Tiffany come up and speak on that, but uh she's in the audience. But it looks to be closed, appears to be, yes, sir. She'll have her opportunity in just a second to do that. [1:11:33, 1:11:53]: Right. And I think the second concern was again, um, you know, uh this is very intensive and certainly um as far as the residents are concerned, you know, um with that frontage along I seventy five, we did want to have some commercial uh in pretty much all of these developments. So [1:11:53, 1:12:13]: When you left your home in Northbridge or one of the surrounding subdivisions, that you would have, you wouldn't have to drive far in order to have some type of uh retail there for you to be able to access. Because driving out on 138, we want you to be able to walk to this commercial park. [1:12:13, 1:12:33]: parcel to be able to use it versus having just all uh additional homes. And then lastly, I think we just went through a really extensive presentation with the county about building residential and billing commercial. Some of that commercial has to be resolved with paying for some of these [1:12:33, 1:12:53]: additional homes uh that will go. Certainly I think this is a more desirable outcome than the that what was mentioned which is a C3 because uh being a C3 uh an expanding of the existing business that were there would actually create uh [1:12:53, 1:13:13]: more of the traffic that we see uh going through uh the North Bridge subdivision. And uh certainly uh that is regrettable that that ever happened, that uh though that that development was approved with the access for the tractors going through the middle of a subdivision, which is just unbelievable. So [1:13:13, 1:13:26]: So my desire in all of this has been a desire to offer the residents an opportunity to get those tractors out of the subdivision and have some type of access through this area to Davidson Parkway. [1:13:28, 1:13:48]: All right. Thank you for the comments. If uh if there are no other comments from the council right now. I do. Oh I'm sorry, go write it, please. I do. Um and perhaps uh when the Miss Logan does her presentation, it won't answer the question. That's what's coming next, but go ahead. Sh I was gonna call her up next, but go ahead with your comment. Okay, I'll wait then. All right, fine. Thank you. All right, on that I need the applicant, Miss [1:13:48, 1:14:08]: Tiffany quant won't you come up here and make it anything else right now, Ryan? I have one question. I'm sorry. Go right in. Well she can come on up, but I I do have a question. Okay. Like the houses look everything looks so close together based off of this. Now it could be very well be different. But we did discuss a commercial component. Um and I do have [1:14:08, 1:14:28]: have concerns about that. I also have concerns because I'm looking at the other surrounding neighborhoods around it. For instance, North Bridge Crossing, which has outlets on Davison Parkway and Walter Way, and to be constructed with those sidewalks, um, in addition to the other areas. And all of the [1:14:28, 1:14:33]: Are we not requiring mixed use? [1:14:33, 1:14:35]: Residential slash commercial. [1:14:36, 1:14:38]: If this is medium density, [1:14:38, 1:14:44]: Um, I just I have some issues about that. Um, and I just I don't [1:14:45, 1:14:46]: I don't see it working. [1:14:47, 1:14:50]: I don't think it's something I that the community would want. [1:14:50, 1:14:55]: And that that's just me talking in that instance. I'm I'm gonna go based off of [1:14:55, 1:14:57]: Whoever the district representative is. [1:14:57, 1:15:00]: But um and and I'll you know [1:15:01, 1:15:03]: Respect the wishes of the community. [1:15:03, 1:15:05]: But I'm looking here [1:15:05, 1:15:12]: Um, for instance, you know, we talk about that C three wick the QTOM or whatever the name of the group are are. [1:15:13, 1:15:14]: And um [1:15:14, 1:15:30]: They were established before the subdivision was established, just so people know. They were established in two thousand three, May fifteenth, two thousand three, that C three component was made and then they put a neighborhood in front of it. So for history purposes, just so you know. [1:15:31, 1:15:37]: That was poor planning. We weren't up here, right? But we're here now. And I wanna make sure. [1:15:37, 1:15:38]: Um [1:15:40, 1:15:40]: Um [1:15:40, 1:15:48]: that whatever we give right now is is quality and something that, you know, the our community will want. [1:15:49, 1:15:51]: And it looks very similar. [1:15:52, 1:15:53]: To what you brought back. [1:15:54, 1:15:55]: What you brought the first time? [1:15:55, 1:15:58]: I don't really see a lot of changes here, if if any. [1:15:58, 1:16:04]: And maybe you can help point those out to me, but we definitely talked about a commercial piece. [1:16:06, 1:16:06]: Okay. [1:16:07, 1:16:16]: May I miss the mayor? Yes, yes, Tiffany, you can go to along with your presentation now. Thank you. Tiffany Hogan, 1371, Dogwood Drive, Conyers, Georgia. [1:16:17, 1:16:37]: I am here representing D.R. Horton this evening as the Vice President of Ford Planning. Uh first to begin starting off addressing some of your main concerns. Uh the plan that you see is very similar, and the reason that it was deferred previously is because we did attempt for what six months now to add a [1:16:37, 1:16:57]: commercial component to the site. The reason that uh as we previously discussed, we had one of the uh largest commercial brokers in the metro area take a look at this to see if he could shop it around to some of his clients. Uh he made comments and did not believe that it was something [1:16:57, 1:17:17]: That was viable for him. You will see his quote in here a little bit later. And so what we did during the last six months is we actually went to this corner adjacent piece. Unfortunately, I don't have a pointer, but it's kind of that mint green piece that's there in the corner because we learned that it was under contract for a commercial. [1:17:16, 1:17:36]: Commercial use and we wanted to be able to connect with them for a commercial component here. What we have since learned is that is that it was a use that I think would have actually made this council even less happy, probably. And we did not feel like it would be a good connection for a community. [1:17:36, 1:17:42]: community of our future homeowners, which is why we did not choose to take that path. [1:17:43, 1:17:48]: Looking at this, I'm going to use this just for a second before I get deep into my presentation. [1:17:48, 1:18:08]: You do have Walter Way here, and then you have Davis Drive, and you have I-75 here. Although it is visible from I-75, there is not frontage access to I-75. So that is one of the main problems for a commercial use at this location, is those things that would be deemed your salt after crack. [1:18:08, 1:18:25]: commercial uses have not seemed to be interested in this piece because again, it has been zoned for 20 plus years and sitting here. And until we went under contract, there was very little movement other than an attempt to rezone it a few years ago that was unsuccessful as well. [1:18:29, 1:18:42]: Staff already showed you this map here. So this is the current piece. It was changed to medium density residential. And as you'll see from the next slide, we have 3.7 units per acre, which does fall into your medium density. [1:18:52, 1:19:12]: Uh three point seven units per acre is seventy-nine total acres with the development. So councilwallman, one of the things that you mentioned is when you're looking at it, the homes look very close together. It is a conceptual site plan. The layout of the community as far as the lot sizes are pretty similar to North Bridge phase one that is across the street. [1:19:12, 1:19:27]: There is actually 36% open space with this development or 45% of the entire site. And again, as staff mentioned, 296 total units, 128 of those is townhomes, 168 as single family detached. [1:19:28, 1:19:29]: Excuse me. [1:19:29, 1:19:34]: We are seeking to rezone it from C three, which is heavy commercial, to the plan unit development. [1:19:34, 1:19:54]: Ooh, that came out rather small there on my screen. It looked fine, but it sounds like you've all done a bit of your homework and you know the uses now that would be available as a C3 development. Um so those are those uses there, which include automobile brokers, automobile gasoline sales, so a gas station, commercial parking garages and lots. [1:19:54, 1:20:03]: Commuter transit, such as buses and trains, farmers markets, many warehouses and storage buildings, among other things there. [1:20:03, 1:20:23]: A few more details on the site here. There is a five-foot setback between each home, so 10 feet total between the homes, a 20-foot front yard setback, and if it's a corner lot, it is a five-foot setback. The townhomes are 24 feet wide, and those are two car garage townhomes. [1:20:23, 1:20:43]: And the lots are 50 foot by 110 feet deep. So that's a 50-foot frontage on those homes there. Uh we wanted to pay close attention as well to additional parking spaces for guests. So we were strategic with that. There is parking. Again, I apologize, there's not a corner here, but if you see the pond. [1:20:43, 1:20:50]: That's in the top north side of the project. There's a an additional guest parking space there. [1:20:50, 1:21:10]: And in the townhome section is really where we thought people would need more additional guest parking. And so there's guest parking when you enter, which is where the mail kiosk will be, as well as guest parking that's kind of down at the corner. So place those throughout the community so that people could park in various places and still walk to the home that they are coming to. [1:21:10, 1:21:30]: To visit. The area that has the little red patch there in the middle is where the main amenity area would be. We are proposing a pool, a clubhouse, a playground, and four play courts or pickleball courts in that area. Then in the lower corner of the project, there will also be a pocket park that's specific to the townhome. [1:21:30, 1:21:46]: community that may include adult walking area or a picnic area or something else in that pocket park as well. This is the quote that I was referencing a while ago from the commercial broker. He has been in the industry for more than 20 years. [1:21:46, 1:22:06]: He is one of the most sought after commercial brokers in the area. We wanted to go to an expert to understand why no commercial, such as what you all have spoken of, has sought out this piece. And this was his quote. And again, he did not seek the opportunity to shop around the site to get it to any of his commercial clients, which is pretty telling. [1:22:08, 1:22:28]: Uh North Bridge Crossing Phase Two, what we're currently calling it, because you'll see in a minute that one of the things that came out from meeting with the community is that they actually requested that we don't name it North Bridge Crossing Phase Two in order to alleviate uh confusion with their phase of the community original phase. But we want to maintain a family-friendly and [1:22:28, 1:22:48]: Environment in this area. That's one of the things that the community really, really expressed during our meetings with them was that they would much rather see residential stuff there and stuff that makes it a home environment for them rather than more commercial being in the area. We wanted to seek the ability to create a connection between research. [1:22:48, 1:23:08]: Creek and community of potential users, as Councilman Alexander spoke to. We did take a look at that. If I go back for a second here to the site plan, unfortunately what we have learned since we first filed this application is that some promises were made to you about a stub rope being placed on the Reeves Creek side and there being a potential for connectivity. [1:23:08, 1:23:28]: As you see, there's a creek there, and also there is a 30-foot drop on that side. So we did have our engineers explore the possibility of how to make a vehicular connection between that, and it is just so taxing to do it and potentially dangerous as well for a 30-foot drop to be able to build that. [1:23:28, 1:23:39]: that up from the other site and create that vehicular connection that it just was not feasible for this. Where that little arc is just above the creek is where the potential Reeves Creek site is located. [1:23:41, 1:24:01]: Um again there hasn't been interest in years for the existing site as a commercial development, and the community did express that they don't want any additional heavy truck traffic coming through. This development obviously would not be heavy truck truck traffic coming through for the community. We also have a traffic impact study that was provided to staff and to council. [1:24:01, 1:24:21]: previously that determined that there would not be a significant impact on the roadways from the additional traffic from the community. There will be two deceleration lanes that are added on each side, one at Walter Way and one at Davis Parkway, so that people can pull off the road in order to be able to turn into the community safely. [1:24:26, 1:24:36]: This is a rendering, uh actually a actual photo of a clubhouse that would be similar uh to the one that would be there and the pool. [1:24:38, 1:24:58]: And as I spoke about the proposed conditions, there are a few things first that I want to iterate reiterate. Uh there's no access from the site to I seventy five. There will be sidewalks on both sides of the streets internally for walkability and connectivity throughout the community. So if people want to walk for exercise, walk to neighbors houses, whatever. [1:24:58, 1:25:17]: they will be able to walk throughout the community. Where we have frontage on the exterior of the property, there will also be sidewalks that will be installed there so that people can walk wherever there's sidewalk connection to other properties or what the city has provided. We have also [1:25:17, 1:25:21]: Uh from the community meetings there was a concern [1:25:22, 1:25:36]: The site plan that you saw that staff had up had homes that were located in that dark green area at the top. The mint green homes are already existing. Those were a part of North Bridge phase one that were put in across the street. [1:25:37, 1:25:50]: where the the dark green is directly across from that. We had homes planned there initially and one of the comments that came from the existing residents was a request to remove those. So those have been removed. [1:25:50, 1:25:58]: So the original site plan was 311 units, which bring brought this one down to 296 units. That was the reason for the reduction there. [1:25:58, 1:26:13]: We also changed some of the road connectivity in order to make it connected throughout. Again, that was another comment and request that we heard was that people wanted to be able to have a continuous loop. And so we made that change as well. And then also, as I mentioned, [1:26:15, 1:26:27]: We thank you all and I will put the proposed condition screen up so that you can't. Council, I'm I'm assuming you'd be more than willing to give her more time to finish her presentation. Yes. Okay. Yes. Well. [1:26:28, 1:26:48]: Yes, I'm I'm in agreement with the addition of time, but I did want to address a question or two when we get a chance. Okay, sure, no problem. Continue on, please. Yes, sir. Um so again, the third thing was to not name it North Bridge Crossing Phase Two, which we have agreed to. The proposed conditions that we came up as a result of the meetings with the community [1:26:48, 1:26:50]: hearing feedback from staff and from the councilmen. [1:26:50, 1:27:10]: Or number one, developer will remove the 15 homes plan for the front of the community as were reflected on the 12-7-2023 site plan, and we have made that revision. Number two, developer will select a name for the development that does not reference North Bridge. Number three, developer will place the main entrance monument for the development at the Davidson. [1:27:10, 1:27:30]: Entrance in order to encourage usage of this entrance as the main entrance. A secondary entrance will be located off Walter Way and both entrances will remain as full access. That was something that also came from the community. They actually preferred that some of the traffic be diverted from Walter W and instead driven over to Davis Drive. [1:27:30, 1:27:46]: And so in order to help encourage that, we will put the main monument sign on that side. We have proposed a rental cap. No more than 5% of the homes may be used as rental property. And number five, there shall be a mandatory homeowners association within the community. [1:27:49, 1:28:02]: This is just some um notes on the homes that will be included in the community. Again, all two-car garages, even the townhomes. All of the homes have three to five bedrooms, the townhomes included. The townhome standard is three bedrooms. [1:28:02, 1:28:15]: There is an option for each one of the end units to have a four-bedroom unit, and that's only one of those per building, a mandatory homeowners association, and then the amenities that I spoke of. [1:28:16, 1:28:36]: D.R. Horton is extremely committed to creating home ownership. And so when we speak of having commercial in the area and bringing jobs to your area, employment, which all bring up the economic development of the area, the jobs have to have somewhere to go home at night and sleep. And so that's what we want to do here is bring some diversity in housing project. [1:28:36, 1:28:56]: product to the area where people can purchase affordable quality homes. A part of our commitment to that is D.R. Horton actually also provides incentives to certain folks that we consider hometown heroes. So military, law enforcement, firefighters, healthcare professionals, educators, all they have to do is show their IDs and they receive an automatic incentive. [1:28:56, 1:29:07]: incentive towards home purchase. Again, as a part of our commitment to home ownership and success in that, we have the Home Buyers Club, which is a free program for people to participate in. [1:29:07, 1:29:22]: even if they end up not purchasing a DR Horton home. And what that does is help them become creditworthy for purchasing homes, teaches them about the finances of home ownership, and hopefully that way they are able to maintain their homes for years to come and help to build generational wealth. [1:29:25, 1:29:40]: And I am happy to entertain any questions that any other council members Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. Thank you, Mayor. Uh Mrs. Hovind, you you thought of answered uh a few questions that I had. Um, but if you would for the council [1:29:40, 1:29:43]: Um the the the fifteen homes that were removed [1:29:44, 1:29:46]: Uh just so council would know. [1:29:46, 1:29:51]: Uh they were located directly f across from the pool house. [1:29:52, 1:29:53]: And the whole intent [1:29:53, 1:30:13]: And even with the uh ingress and egress, as you mentioned, trying to direct more of that on Davison Parkway as opposed to Walter Way, uh, to try to minimize as much traffic on Walterway that we can. That was one of the things that the residents would. [1:30:13, 1:30:32]: really concerned about. Now with the removal of the fifteen units, um can you elaborate what will now substitute would it be green space, would it be a parking park? Um we sort of talked about trails. Can you elaborate on some of that? [1:30:32, 1:30:51]: Yes, sir. So what you're looking at on the screen right now is staff's version of the site plan, which shows those 15 homes there. And then if I switch over, you see the 15 homes have been removed. So that area we do have planned to be an additional pocket part. We talked about there being an edible garden there, um, perhaps some um [1:30:52, 1:31:10]: uh uh grill area or something like that to add an additional park pocket park to the community as well. And then you are correct, sir, again sidewalks on both sides of the street throughout the community. So right there off of that area, you'll be able to connect and walk the entire property if you chose to. [1:31:11, 1:31:24]: So i if you would, can you indicate how many units would be closer to Walterway and how many units would be closer to uh Davison Parkway? [1:31:24, 1:31:44]: Um, so the ones right now, if you're speaking on the side of the creek, so the north side of the creek, those green unit, the mint green units that you see there that have numbers in them, again, those are already existing there as of today. So we have not planned any new homes to be constructed north of the [1:31:44, 1:32:04]: Creek site that would be closer to North Bridge Crossing Phase One. All of the development that we currently have planned would start south of the creek crossing, which is a little bit into the development and pulls those away from the current North Bridge phase. The townhomes are over on the [1:32:04, 1:32:11]: the west side of the um property. And so there uh it's 128 townhomes total. [1:32:12, 1:32:25]: So it depends on, you know, your definition and what you're considering closer to Davis Way, but the town home units are the ones that are c planned closer to Davis. And and and and again I'm not gonna speak for the homeowners, but it was a concern about [1:32:25, 1:32:27]: Uh traffic on um [1:32:27, 1:32:29]: Walter Way. [1:32:29, 1:32:48]: Uh trying to minimize that. And so I was trying to give everybody a picture of how many even though we did remove the fifteen units, but how many um home would still be closer to uh entering and exiting um on the walk away side. [1:32:49, 1:33:09]: You know, honestly, with the design the way that it is now, if you come in off Davis, you have homes that are on um kind of the north side of Davis Road, and it's just a few of those. Uh it looks like probably between the town homes and the single family. I can't count them exactly a little small on my screen here, but less than twenty that are on that. [1:33:09, 1:33:29]: At Northside. So those would probably be the folks that would be coming from Walterway. And a bit of it depends on which way they're coming from town, to be quite honest, uh, where they're coming from. But with us directing that traffic to come primarily through Davis, uh, I would believe with the main entrance being there, particularly guest traffic, definitely would come. [1:33:29, 1:33:41]: through that access point more likely than the one off of Walway. But if you come in off of Davis, it connects throughout the entire community. So Walway is just an alternative essentially. Right. [1:33:41, 1:34:01]: And I know Councilman Alexander is gonna weigh in on this, but I would be okay with uh you or council speaking more to um the construction side. Uh I know we spend a lot of times dealing with some of the other issues and not with the [1:34:01, 1:34:05]: quality of the construction. Can you can you speak to some of that? [1:34:05, 1:34:25]: Absolutely. Uh so the homes would be constructed out of a mixture of materials for the front elevation. The materials that we use for siding is a Hardy cement, is probably the uh brand that you hear most often. It's a cement fiberboard. Hardy is a brand of it. Uh if there is shake on the homes, which we sometimes do for a decorative architectural feature. [1:34:25, 1:34:45]: Just like in the gable area, that is a cement product as well. So those products tend to last longer, have more durability. People need to press what pressure wash them a little bit less often, which keeps them looking really nice. We are the number one home builder in the country. Last year we closed the millionth home. This year we're on track to close our [1:34:45, 1:35:05]: 100,000 more homes with the closest competitor being probably 10,000 homes away from us. So, you know, I say all that to say there's a way that we've figured out to make things work. And, you know, we don't hide the ball. There's absolutely stuff out there that you will hear that's negative as well. But one of the things that's really excellent about us is we [1:35:05, 1:35:25]: We have a great warranty program. Our warranty manager for our particular division has been with us for almost 30 years. So she probably does this stuff in her sleep. But as long as we know about the issue and it's entered into the portal correctly, it is an issue that we can take care of, and I can assure you we do take care of. At these public hearings, [1:35:25, 1:35:45]: I've had people before come up and say, DR Horton didn't fix this, they didn't do this. I asked them for their address and stuff afterwards. We look in the portal. It turns out that they never reported it to us. We can't fix what we don't know. But what we in turn do is because we didn't have the address, we're able to reach out to them, say one of our representatives heard from you that they had an issue, and they're able to [1:35:45, 1:36:05]: To then see if there's something that can be done to rectify the issue. In some of the larger situations that you've heard about or may have read about, those cases are likely third parties that were doing some work for us. And I can assure you that those people no longer do work for us if there is a major issue that causes a problem. So we are very serious. [1:36:05, 1:36:15]: about our programming. We call it a five-star program. There are surveys throughout the process for homeowners to be able to let us know how we're doing and what needs may need repair. [1:36:16, 1:36:17]: Thank you. [1:36:18, 1:36:27]: Any other questions, Council? Yes. Cool. Ms. Barber Goy, please. She had her hand up. Okay, so I have several questions actually. [1:36:28, 1:36:48]: It's difficult for me to really understand the areas that you are describing. I want to see how many entrance and exit points from the total development. Sure. So there are two full access points for the community. Full access means you can come in and go out. [1:36:48, 1:37:08]: It's not a right-on entrance or anything. So there is one that is at Walter Way that the driveway should align with the development across the street because that is something that your DOT is going to require, is that those access points align for safety purposes. The other one is right there in that curve on Davis Drive. If you're looking at my screen now, [1:37:08, 1:37:14]: Closest to where it says presentation, that gray that comes out of there is the other full access point. [1:37:16, 1:37:16]: Okay. [1:37:19, 1:37:30]: Okay. Um did you mention five feet between each unit? Or is that just a setback? It's a five foot setback, side setback. [1:37:30, 1:37:31]: Okay. [1:37:32, 1:37:32]: Yep. [1:37:32, 1:37:35]: Which means ten feet between the units. Okay. [1:37:35, 1:37:36]: Um [1:37:37, 1:37:57]: I'm not really a big fan of high density residential. Sorry. Um and besides, that just seems like it's a lot of units just compacted together. But of course I will follow the lead of the city council representative for the district. [1:37:58, 1:38:13]: They would hope my councilmates would do the same when proposals are coming to my district as well. And again, this uh I'm sorry for you. Um just as a reminder, is three point seven four units per acre for density, which falls into your medium density category. [1:38:16, 1:38:17]: Thank you. Um [1:38:18, 1:38:21]: Tell me again the breakdown a hundred and twenty eight town homes. [1:38:22, 1:38:37]: Uh it's a hundred and twenty eight twenty four foot town homes and a hundred and sixty eight single family detached homes, which are your traditional homes. These are single family detached homes. The other the ones that kinda look yellow on the screen are detached, yes ma'am. Nice. [1:38:38, 1:38:42]: I'm sure they would prefer those, but just not the density. Um [1:38:43, 1:38:45]: The price points. [1:38:45, 1:38:46]: Can you talk about that? [1:38:47, 1:39:07]: Sure. So I can give you an estimate based on today's cost. So one of the things that I thought Councilman Thomas was leading to with this question was timing. And so I'll speak to timing a little bit because that speaks to the price point. So being here today, seeking this zoning, means that if approved today, we would then have to apply for the land disturbance process. [1:39:07, 1:39:27]: Permit and go through everything where your engineers and your planning department and everyone else digs through with a fine-tooth comb. We estimate approximately six to eight months for that process to take place. So if we're now in June, obviously it would be the end of the year before we anticipated getting a land disturbance permit, meaning that at that time, that's when [1:39:27, 1:39:47]: When we can actually start moving dirt to grade the site. Grading the site will likely take another uh nine months or so to get it to a point where we could go vertical with the first house, the first home being constructed. So it would be sometime around September of next year, 2025, before you're looking at actually beginning to sell your first. [1:39:47, 1:39:50]: home is what we would estimate and anticipate. [1:39:50, 1:40:10]: So if I were looking at today's market, keeping in mind we won't go vertical with the first one until sometime next year, then we would estimate that the townhomes would likely fall somewhere uh between the 325 range, starting probably up to 350-ish, um, and then the homes, the single-family detached homes. [1:40:10, 1:40:21]: would likely start around 350 and go up from there. We will always follow the direction of the market with the sales prices. And if there is an opportunity to, you know [1:40:22, 1:40:35]: arrange those prices based on the market, then we op we make those changes. There is someone in our office that every day her job is to just look at the price of materials and everything else and do the market analysis and adjust prices as such. [1:40:36, 1:40:56]: Okay. With the townhomes, I know you mentioned three bedrooms. Are they all three bedroom units? With the exception of one unit on the end of each building, could potentially be a four-bedroom. Okay. And what's the square footage of the three-bedroom? The townhomes. Uh it's a uh 1860, those start at they range from 1860 to [1:40:56, 1:40:57]: eighteen ninety. [1:41:03, 1:41:23]: And the single detached homes? The ranch product that we have planned for this community is a little bit over 1,800 square feet. That would be the smallest plan within there. It is the number one plan in the entire United States. Sells very well, very popular with folks that don't want stairs, that want kind of the house to be all [1:41:23, 1:41:32]: All be there in one area. So that would be the smallest, and it would range up to about just under 3,000 square feet for the largest. [1:41:32, 1:41:38]: I did not share a conceptual of the homes. [1:41:38, 1:41:39]: Do you have [1:41:40, 1:41:56]: Uh I do not have those with me today, but uh that eighteen hundred square foot plan that I mentioned, uh like I said, it's the number one selling plan in the market. Uh I can give you some communities uh in a moment that you could look at the website and see those homes. Okay. [1:41:58, 1:42:01]: That's all I have for now. Thank you. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [1:42:03, 1:42:16]: I don't even know where to start. Let me just say, this is the exact same plan that we deferred. This is the exact same plan coming back to us with all of these homes on it with no commercial. [1:42:16, 1:42:36]: There th this plan destroys our transportation plan because there's no through road from Flippin' Road to Davison Parkway. And you got all of these homes going on a two-lane road with no access out there with no future improvement. I do have good news for the residents on Flippin' Road, it's gonna go on Splash 6. [1:42:36, 1:42:40]: You're gonna get a chance to vote to widen flippin' road. [1:42:40, 1:43:00]: If you say yes. If you say no, there won't be any money for it. So it's gonna be up to the residents to do that. So the major transportation plan and the DRI that Mr. Anderson spoke to, that he says is too old for this area, call for a through road through this development. [1:43:00, 1:43:20]: That would run parallel with I-75 and kind of connect the area and go over the flipping road. This development does not do that. I thought that was our number one charge was to have the through road. If you're a resident over there in North Bridge Crossing, this development means that you will be stuck with those tractor trailers. [1:43:20, 1:43:23]: Coming through your subdivision for the rest of your life. [1:43:24, 1:43:30]: This development offers an opportunity for us to move traffic through here. [1:43:31, 1:43:51]: From Flippin' Road to Davidson Parkway, and it would give you an opportunity to leave your house, go through this area, and go down the Flippin' Road where it'll be four lanes or access it, it gives you multiple access. This is not the plan that we asked for. We asked for some that the reason that uh we asked for the commercial was so that [1:43:50, 1:44:10]: We limited commercial, that there would be a through road. And the reason that this property has not had any commercial development with it at this point was because there was not enough residential. But we just approved 1,200 new residential units on Flippin' Road that's going to serve the [1:44:10, 1:44:30]: Commercial component of this. But I tell you, residents, I'm looking at this and saying, wow, you're gonna be stuck with those tractor trailers coming through your neighborhood forever if this is approved. I I say that you that there needs to be a revision to this plan, even if there is residential, so [1:44:30, 1:44:50]: There will be a through road. It destroys our trail plan because we had planned on having the road come through there, allow the trails to run along the road and connect the Davison Parkway so that you could leave your home, ride your bike from your neighborhood down the flipping road, down to Walt Stevens, through here. [1:44:50, 1:44:54]: this is built, we can't do any of that. So [1:44:55, 1:45:15]: I'm I'm confused at how we got to this point because when we deferred this, the whole point was to have it be so that we have a through road. I heard I with all due respect, ma'am, it is gonna be expensive. You gotta build a bridge. You don't wanna build a bridge. And the problem is that bridge needs to be built. And the reason [1:45:15, 1:45:35]: that we set this up so a bridge would have to be built at some point to connect this. And the and nobody wants to build that bridge. And the reason that we understood and what we wanted the mixed use is because the businesses and the commercial d development would help pay for the bridge and the development [1:45:34, 1:45:39]: Whereas residential probably would not. And and and for me. [1:45:39, 1:45:59]: Could I support this? I could not because it is it is a it is counterproductive to our transportation plan that we have talked about. It's country it's counterproductive to our trail plan and it is very dense development that offers no opportunity for transportation improvements that would get the residents out. [1:45:59, 1:46:19]: The residents are gonna be in a worse situation than they much worse situation today than they would be uh uh in tomorrow if this is approved versus they're in today without the commercial because the commercial would give you an opportunity, it would be less intense, the cars will be coming and going. These cars are gonna be there every day, every day. [1:46:19, 1:46:24]: Every day coming out onto uh there with no other access. [1:46:24, 1:46:44]: I I don't understand how we got from you were here and we talked about the commercial component. We talked about the through road. You took notes on that. There's no through road and there's no commercial component. But as I said, and I'm gonna finish with this, is that the reason that this commercial component, which is we've talked about [1:46:44, 1:47:04]: This forever has not moved forward because there wasn't enough residential. But that we've already approved the rooftops. We all on this council have seen it work. We go to those ribbon cuttings at Jodico every single week because this is what they want first. But this development right here, I'm I'm just scratching my head that we didn't. [1:47:04, 1:47:22]: And we didn't do any of the things that we deferred for. And I and I don't understand why we did not do the through roll and why do we not why do we not even attempt to do the through road and you said because of the the bridge, the bridge is going to be expensive, but certainly you're not willing to build a bridge? [1:47:23, 1:47:32]: May I respond, Mr. Mayor? Okay. So not to make this a debate, Mr. Alexander, but as stated previously, we did take those six months in order to [1:47:33, 1:47:53]: check feasibility, to check safety, to check engineering. And as previously stated, there is a thirty foot drop there. I understand what you have previously seen, but as discussed that LCI is from twelve years ago. The zoning for this property is over twenty years old. That rezoning with Reeves Creek that you speak of, those rooftops were approved about a year ago. [1:47:52, 1:48:12]: at this time, maybe just a little bit less. But what I can tell you, because we are in constant contact with the seller and he has advised us as to who has been in touch with him, it has not been any commercial as you speak of. As this far as this road being put in, it's not that we don't want to put a bridge in because that has been done on projects where it is feasible. [1:48:12, 1:48:32]: And it is efficient to do so. With a 30-foot drop, it's not. And I'm of it's unfortunate that promises were made to you and things were shown that actually do not make sense for development. So that is, we have some of the top engineers that have taken a look at this. We've looked at the traffic impact study, all of the costs. [1:48:32, 1:48:52]: Cars will not be leaving the community at the same time. As I said, the level of service that they evaluated from that traffic impact service will remain at a B or better for these roads. So, you know, that's where we are with it. The seller has not had anyone else that has reached out to him other than the use that staff has previously. [1:48:52, 1:48:56]: previously mentioned since the Reeves Creek development was approved. [1:48:58, 1:49:18]: Upon that, I'll follow up and then say generally, as we said, once we saw the construction started, uh Council, is that that's when we saw things started to happen. And we have it um coming here. And I I just I don't know, I'm not an engineer, but I went to Savannah and there's a two or three hundred-foot tall bridge. [1:49:18, 1:49:38]: That they use to cross that we cross when we go down there. So I don't know what engineers said we can't compensate for a 30-foot drop. But in the end, this plan right here, I would ask that you go back and look at some of the things that we originally asked for, and then you would come. [1:49:38, 1:49:47]: Back to us with what we will some of the things that we asked for. Because in this present state, it would just be nearly impossible for me to support this. [1:49:48, 1:49:49]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:49:50, 1:49:51]: Thank you. [1:49:52, 1:50:00]: I the the houses up closer to walk away, there's some spots there. Is that parking? Like it's gray with little s dots. [1:50:01, 1:50:12]: Wha what exactly is that? It's closer to that's the creek. That's the buffer for the creek area. That's the required state and federal buffers around the street. But there's like gray area like there's actually subdivided lots. [1:50:13, 1:50:20]: Those are the homes that are existing from phase one. The ones that are right adjacent to Walterway. Okay. Those are the phase one houses. All right. [1:50:20, 1:50:37]: And so they would add in addition to that? Those are existing as of today. Okay. That would not be a part of our proposed development. Well not that, but the yellow ones with the circle right next to it are added to the old existing, correct? Correct. All right. And you mentioned [1:50:38, 1:50:38]: Um [1:50:39, 1:50:50]: town homes and have an additional parking in certain areas. And w we Mayor and Council we had a development, I don't know if you remember Councilman Berry, but [1:50:50, 1:50:53]: We talked a little bit about that where [1:50:53, 1:50:55]: It's inconvenient for [1:50:56, 1:51:01]: uh people to park at the entryway or whatever and have to walk to a town hall. [1:51:01, 1:51:02]: So we [1:51:03, 1:51:07]: had decided that we wanted the driveways to be larger. [1:51:07, 1:51:08]: Longer? [1:51:08, 1:51:11]: Right? So that two cars could go in. [1:51:11, 1:51:13]: And two cars could be on the [1:51:13, 1:51:21]: actual driveway, right? Instead of parking in a parking pad somewhere and walking'cause that's unrealistic. [1:51:21, 1:51:36]: People are not don't want to do that, right? So I I definitely can't I I mean, I know if they were at an amenity, they were at a pool, they came to park at that that location, but to say that, oh, when they have guests, they're gonna park [1:51:37, 1:51:46]: in some parking pad and walk all the way down, I I doubt very seriously that would happen. So that's something that concerns me. It it concerns me that it looks like it tr it looks like [1:51:47, 1:51:50]: They wanna get as many houses as they can in here. [1:51:51, 1:51:58]: I mean that's what it looks like. And that doesn't look like quality in me. It just doesn't. And I'm not I'm not trying to be [1:51:59, 1:52:09]: insulting or I'm uh out of concern. It looks like I just wanna cram as much money as I can get out of this community instead of looking at it [1:52:09, 1:52:14]: where it's spaced out and you have maybe a pool here and a park here. [1:52:15, 1:52:17]: You got all these houses just [1:52:18, 1:52:38]: clustered together. It's not something that I want to live in. So I don't know what my community wants to live. I don't I don't think it's I think they should go back to the drawing board. I really do. And and I'm I'm sympathetic to that. I know that it's zone C three. I'm not threatened by that. And the reason why I'm not threatened by that is because there have been proposals [1:52:38, 1:52:54]: of green developments. There have been proposals of other commercial buildings and uses that might actually take place. We're growing by leaps and bounds. There's no secret that we barely have, we have, we don't have a lot of land to choose from. [1:52:54, 1:52:58]: So it's coming, right? It's here. It's already here. [1:52:58, 1:52:59]: And [1:52:59, 1:53:02]: I'd rather take the risk than to put up something poor. [1:53:04, 1:53:24]: So oh may I respond? Go go ahead please. So the guest parking that I mentioned, Councilwoman, is additional parking. The townhomes are two car garages and there's two spots in the driveway for additional two cars to park as well. So there is parking opportunity at each one of the units. There's just additional parking that we've added so that [1:53:24, 1:53:42]: additional guests would be able to park. And then as far as going back to the drawing board, you know, I'll be fully transparent. We've spoken with the seller and as you know we deferred twice already. This application started last year. So if it's not approved tonight, then we are likely going to have to walk away. [1:53:42, 1:53:43]: Okay. [1:53:43, 1:53:44]: Thank you. [1:53:45, 1:53:47]: Got a question. Oh Mr. Thomas Graser. [1:53:48, 1:53:55]: Yeah. Okay. Um let me just say I I as a representative for District Two. [1:53:55, 1:53:58]: Um, I don't have an issue with [1:53:58, 1:54:18]: Councils weighing in. I I think this is the way it's supposed to be because all of these developments throughout the city, you know, we are responsible for all of that. So I don't have any issues with councils weighing in. I I keep hearing, well, this is uh District 2, District 2. Trust me. [1:54:18, 1:54:38]: Me, I don't have issue with that because we have to look at the city as a whole. And I appreciate uh council weighing in with their concerns because when it all comes in, you know, it still falls on us. Because no, as I mentioned all the time, no one council person makes these. [1:54:38, 1:54:50]: decisions. This is a group decision and I appreciate that. But it is disappointing because as Kelson and Alexander indicated when we talked about the flip and road development. [1:54:51, 1:54:53]: You know, the whole stub issue. [1:54:53, 1:54:56]: Was highlighted and we felt then [1:54:56, 1:55:10]: that going forward in the future that this would be. And I do understand uh the thirty foot drop. I know Councilman wanted you to sort of go back. So now is that is that cost [1:55:10, 1:55:13]: Why that cannot be done is it costs? [1:55:14, 1:55:27]: It is not just cost, it's also safety and the development of that because it's not necessarily just a bridge. That's something that an engineer would have to evaluate what actually makes sense to be put there. Um in [1:55:28, 1:55:48]: Being that that was shown on an LCI 12 years ago, you know, is it something that the city is going to look at putting in at some point, putting that boulevard throughout? Um and it sounds like there's no plan for that. Councilman Alexander Alexander mentioned the Splash 6 uh with widening on flipping road. [1:55:48, 1:55:52]: But there doesn't seem to be a plan by the city to put that road in there. [1:55:52, 1:56:12]: So and the other issue when we get back into the commercial part of it. Um, and this is something that we really wanted to see. But I do understand that it's sort of when we spoke earlier and we we we met with the residents, it was sort of like [1:56:12, 1:56:16]: the chicken and the egg, which come first. [1:56:16, 1:56:36]: And what we were told, uh, based on, you know, your research and information, that a lot of those potential commercial felt that this development would sort of be off the beaten path and no one would know that this commercial was there and they wanted to wait. [1:56:36, 1:56:37]: And C [1:56:37, 1:56:39]: No. [1:56:40, 1:56:43]: My issue though is my concern is [1:56:44, 1:56:46]: And if the city of Starkbridge [1:56:46, 1:56:49]: Пудил після. [1:56:50, 1:56:56]: then an adjoining county can come in and put the commercial in. [1:56:56, 1:57:04]: And I don't want to get into that because that should not, in a sense, drive us to what we do. So [1:57:05, 1:57:10]: Let me ask you and maybe I do want Mr. Anderson to come back forward too. [1:57:10, 1:57:12]: But one of the concerns [1:57:13, 1:57:16]: And you're probably gonna hear this from some of the residents when they do come up and speak. [1:57:17, 1:57:37]: that the unknown, we're fearful of the unknown. We don't know what commercial is coming. I know we s we talk retail, restaurant, you know the ideal commercial, but we don't know. And I guess we as a council, I guess we can dictate some of that. And I don't I'm I'm just [1:57:37, 1:57:45]: Speaking from just from what I've heard, I don't think uh residents would be too concerned about those types of commercial. [1:57:45, 1:57:49]: But there probably are some undesirable commercial [1:57:49, 1:57:51]: that would come in because again [1:57:51, 1:57:53]: These units [1:57:53, 1:58:08]: are very close to where they live right now. And I know none of us would want a certain type of commercial business that close to us. So that is sort of a concern. So [1:58:09, 1:58:29]: Speak a little bit more. And I know you mentioned in your research that um that whole commercial piece was not viable for this particular era. But is there any other research that we could do to try to look at the commercial? Now, and I still understand. [1:58:29, 1:58:31]: [7111.5, 7116.9]: your statement that you just made that you all probably withdraw because see that's another issue. [1:58:37, 1:58:48]: If this zoning remains C three and I know I heard from one council person they weren't fearful of that, but my concern is the fear for the homeowners. [1:58:48, 1:58:58]: 'Cause I don't know and I wanted Mr. Anderson to speak to, I know there's not an application right now from drive time to to expand. [1:58:59, 1:59:00]: But [1:59:01, 1:59:05]: Let me just let me just be very clear. I is this a ploy? [1:59:05, 1:59:08]: Uh to for for dry time. [1:59:08, 1:59:16]: I would hate to think that drive time would do these residents like this, even though they were there first, and that someone mentioned. [1:59:16, 1:59:20]: Uh the city should never have approved of a residential. [1:59:20, 1:59:24]: Area anyway. But well here we are. [1:59:24, 1:59:25]: So [1:59:27, 1:59:43]: If you can, Mr. Anderson, speak to that possibility of dry time really expanding,'cause I know I I I just feel if I know if I live there, I would want I would not want that expansion. [1:59:44, 2:00:04]: Well, yes, sir. Um the property zone C three and um drive time is a commercial establishment. So if they purchase the land, they could expand without coming in to s to s before council or they will go straight to the development phase. They don't need a zoning action at all. So they have the zoning in place to expand. [2:00:04, 2:00:12]: If they purchase the land. And that's the fear. So have you had any communications? [2:00:12, 2:00:20]: Uh so how was this how how did we hear about this potential expansion? Well I heard [2:00:20, 2:00:22]: Through a developer. [2:00:25, 2:00:45]: Okay. Well Mayor, I know we need to get to the public hearing, but but I think I think the the Homeown Assace Association and I know the interim president is here and some of the others. I I I think they do appreciate this dialogue because it gives them a little bit more information and a little bit more knowled knowledge. So [2:00:45, 2:01:05]: So I don't think this is a waste of time, us going back and forth, Mrs. Hogan, and asking these questions. But I do understand we have deferred this twice to allow the community to get a little bit more understanding, to inject some of their feelings, et cetera. So, but here we are. [2:01:05, 2:01:05]: Today. [2:01:06, 2:01:14]: And and I I do feel, Councilwoman Gann and Alexander, I do feel where you're coming from, and I'm in agreement with that, but [2:01:14, 2:01:28]: uh I'm still going to uh represent the the homeowners and and it's uh it's just it's unfortunate. It's just one of these kind of situations, you know, blank if you do and blank if you don't. So [2:01:29, 2:01:49]: So maybe I'm just gonna yield back and give the citizens a chance to weigh in on it. Before we do that though, Mr. Barrett, did you have any comments at all? No, sir. You good? Okay. All right. And we're good down on this end, I would imagine. All right. So what we're gonna thank you, Miss Uh Tiffany, Ms. Hogan. We're gonna open up uh public hearing. I already read the public hearing guidelines. We went that initially on another [2:01:49, 2:02:04]: uh subject. So public hearing rules over establish that. So anybody's four. For this to happen, for this development, four on my very left side. If you're four, I need you line up in a aisle right over here. Four. [2:02:05, 2:02:09]: Anybody for it, all right, or agree with this development in the middle. [2:02:12, 2:02:13]: And maybe I'm on the right side. [2:02:15, 2:02:25]: Okay, seeing no one. Anybody's against this particular development the way it stands right now, what it's presented, from my very left side. That's against this development. Wanna make comments? [2:02:25, 2:02:26]: Anybody in the middle? [2:02:30, 2:02:33]: Came before right side. Anybody's against? Make any comments. [2:02:37, 2:02:40]: Any comments at all, folks? I'm gonna close or close it out. [2:02:40, 2:02:46]: If you've got comments, I've I'll offer in the comments so you have public comments at all. What are you a for against? Or you you're for? [2:02:47, 2:02:48]: Okay. [2:02:49, 2:02:58]: Please pay attention, folks. Line up I might line up on that side right there. If you got if you you want to make comments for, is that correct? For the development, please line up on this side. [2:02:58, 2:03:06]: Four folks. Four. We'll go back to four. Make sure. All right. Anybody from on the left side, middle or the right, that's for this development. [2:03:08, 2:03:08]: All right. [2:03:10, 2:03:14]: Ma'am, p come to the podium please, and uh state your name and address. [2:03:16, 2:03:24]: My name is Patricia Smith. Make sure the green lights on, please. It's on. Okay, go ahead. Please in the mic. My name is Patricia Smith. I live at North Bridge Crossing. Is that live or [2:03:25, 2:03:27]: Yeah, could you speak louder please so we can hear you? [2:03:27, 2:03:43]: I can't say that again. Could you speak a little louder, please, in the mic? Patricia Smith. There you go. And I live at North Bridge Crossing. Okay and the president of the H the um HOA. Okay. I am for the development. Okay. Only because [2:03:43, 2:03:51]: I don't want commercial in that area because of the trucks that comes through. We already deal with drive time and the way that the [2:03:52, 2:03:55]: Веркис дві девелмент. [2:03:56, 2:03:57]: Speeding. [2:03:57, 2:04:03]: It's crazy. Okay. So um no, I d I do not want drive time to expand. [2:04:04, 2:04:08]: Now if you're talking about commercial property as far I mean commercial home I mean [2:04:08, 2:04:11]: Developments as far as maybe [2:04:12, 2:04:13]: Good restaurants. [2:04:13, 2:04:15]: Or something you could walk to. [2:04:16, 2:04:17]: That's fine. [2:04:17, 2:04:19]: Беню гарантия? [2:04:20, 2:04:27]: That's the question. I don't know what kind of commercial gonna roll up in there and then have the all these big trucks. [2:04:28, 2:04:30]: coming through that they already tore up the road. [2:04:31, 2:04:38]: Um in our development. The bumpers that this that was put in by the city, they're pretty much flat. [2:04:39, 2:04:45]: From those big trucks that come through our development. They're supposed to come down waterway, they're coming through the side streets. [2:04:46, 2:04:49]: So there's no policeman coming through there to [2:04:49, 2:04:54]: to direct any traffic for us. So no, I don't I'm against um commercial. [2:04:56, 2:05:00]: Certain certain type of commercial I would imagine you can see. All right. Good deal. [2:05:00, 2:05:06]: Anything else? That's it? That's it for you. No, just want to make sure folks anybody for the development. [2:05:06, 2:05:08]: Ma'am, you can have your seat please if we don't. [2:05:08, 2:05:18]: Thank you. Anybody that's for? All right. Now we'll try this again. Anybody against the development from my that wanna make a comment, public hearing, my far left side. Anybody against it? [2:05:19, 2:05:21]: In the middle. Anybody against this development? [2:05:22, 2:05:22]: The middle. [2:05:23, 2:05:25]: Right side, anybody against the development? [2:05:26, 2:05:26]: All right. [2:05:27, 2:05:31]: We've done that. I will close this part of the uh public hearing. [2:05:31, 2:05:33]: Mr. Anderson, come back to the podium, please. [2:05:36, 2:05:50]: Council. I was I was I was gonna open up the council. What what kind of questions do you have? Mr. Alexander, you spoke, so I guess you go first now. See, I wanna I wanna speak to the residents concerned. It's terrible when you got a resident has to decide between [2:05:50, 2:06:10]: I'm gonna take drive time or I'm gonna take these trucks running through the middle of my neighborhood. That is a terrible dichotomy of the worst choices possible. I'm telling you, Miss Tiffany, come back to us with a better plan with some residential in it. I'm talking the whole the the the Tiffany, want to come to Tiffany. [2:06:10, 2:06:12]: Please come back to Mike. [2:06:12, 2:06:13]: B. [2:06:13, 2:06:33]: Commercial I'm talking about certainly I wouldn't I wouldn't vote for anything that would bring any more trucks in there. I certainly would not support anything that would involve any intense development. We're talking about this is reserve frontage, which is similar to what you would see up at the area where you would go through the perimeter or or the or you would go through [2:06:33, 2:06:40]: The Cumberland area that has expressway frontage. You have ex maximum exposure. [2:06:40, 2:06:58]: For not some cheap motel like they have on the other side, but a very nice hotel that would have like a steakhouse or something in it, or some commercial component or some retail stores in it. Certainly not any intense development. And I don't want you to have to make the choice between [2:06:58, 2:07:18]: If drive fearful because draw time will go in there or some commercial component. I can assure you that I would never vote for any type of truck or facility. Matter of fact, we turned one down about a year ago that wanted to locate over there a warehouse. We voted against it. And your choices aren't limited to drive time or [2:07:18, 2:07:20]: Some um [2:07:20, 2:07:40]: Or this development here. The developer can take some time, go back, bring us a better plan than this, because we will approve some residential, but this plan is just not it. So if you could take a certain amount of time, go back, come back to us within maybe thirty days or or less. [2:07:40, 2:08:00]: We'll bring you back up so we can talk about that through road. So we can talk about some commercial component that would be limited to where you would be agreeable. You would agree that it wouldn't be no trucks in that commercial development. You would agree that it would be restaurants. We could actually agree on what. [2:08:00, 2:08:20]: The commercial is going to be and put that in the zoning for approval and that it would exclude trucks and that type of thing. And I understand you've been going through this process. I won't we wanna be fair with you and approve some residential. This is too much. If you had some commercial to go with it to offset it. [2:08:20, 2:08:29]: And you had that through roll, I could see myself approving it if you would take a little more time to define this program of maybe about thirty days. [2:08:30, 2:08:35]: Alright, any other comments? Anyone else? Um [2:08:37, 2:08:48]: I'm having some some sidebar conversation here as y'all you really notice. Um and and and this is just one of those developments. I think this is unique. Um [2:08:49, 2:08:50]: And I'm um [2:08:51, 2:08:53]: I sort of lean toward [2:08:54, 2:09:00]: the right kind of commercial which we have no guarantee. So Mr. Anderson um [2:09:01, 2:09:04]: What control does the city have? [2:09:05, 2:09:08]: If we are, Mrs. Hogan, allowed to [2:09:08, 2:09:11]: get some interest from some commercial. [2:09:12, 2:09:12]: Um [2:09:13, 2:09:17]: Фот контроль до вича диктат. [2:09:17, 2:09:22]: The kind of commercial that can come in, you know, the retail, the restaurants. [2:09:23, 2:09:26]: You know, o of that nature. What what control do we have? [2:09:28, 2:09:31]: Usually by placing zoning conditions on a property? [2:09:31, 2:09:33]: Okay. [2:09:33, 2:09:36]: An and another thing is [2:09:39, 2:09:49]: With the threat of of dry time really coming and then misses Hogan, are you willing are you willing? If hard are you willing? [2:09:50, 2:09:51]: To [2:09:52, 2:09:55]: Put a little bit more time into this and see [2:09:56, 2:10:04]: I understand about the, you know, the whole s stub and and the and the and the drive-thru, but more of the the the right kind of commercial. [2:10:05, 2:10:06]: Are you willing to [2:10:07, 2:10:12]: to t'cause this will be a great development, I think, for for Horton and for the city of Stockbridge. [2:10:13, 2:10:33]: But uh uh are you willing to work a little harder to try to get some commitment, you know, from that because I I'm going to personally I'm going to lean toward uh the community that I I represent and we heard from the uh president of the association. [2:10:33, 2:10:53]: I've had the opportunity to meet with a number of them, even though it's just a few here tonight. So this is the way I'm going to lean toward. But ideally, I think all of us would be happy, and as the president mentioned, yeah, the restaurants, you know, the retail. Ideally, this is what we want to see in this area. [2:10:53, 2:11:06]: They can actually live with that. They can walk to the restaurants and the retail, but just dealing with that unknown, and that's the reason I asked uh Mr. Anderson, what control do we have? [2:11:06, 2:11:13]: to try to dictate or to mold that kind of retail and I'm pretty pretty comfortable in that, but [2:11:14, 2:11:16]: is hard and willing to [2:11:17, 2:11:18]: Stay in the game, said [2:11:19, 2:11:32]: and work with the city, work with the residents to try to fix it. I don't I I just don't want you to say, well, if it's not approved tonight, then we're gonna take all, you know, bats and balls and go home. [2:11:32, 2:11:34]: And so so [2:11:35, 2:11:40]: So sorta s share some of that with us if you if you could I know this is the public hearing phase of it, but [2:11:48, 2:11:56]: And and while they're talking, Mirror, I I s I still wanna sort of get a sense from uh from the president to [2:11:56, 2:12:16]: uh their willingness. Now I don't I'm not gonna uh roll the dice for them. Um I'm like I say I'm leaning toward cause I've met with them. They have indicated to me they have asked me to uh in a sense vote in that direction which I will but I don't have just one vote. [2:12:16, 2:12:20]: But I'm just trying to see how we can fix this. [2:12:20, 2:12:22]: And I don't want us to uh [2:12:23, 2:12:43]: take a chance on this other entity coming in and just you know and just knocking all of us out with the application. And like you said, they really don't even have they don't have to even come to us. We could just wake up the next day and and here we are. And so [2:12:43, 2:12:45]: I know we don't want that, so [2:12:45, 2:12:58]: Mr. Thomas I've already opened and closed at uh the public hearing and people th she was the only one that spoke and I mean pl I went through this uh two entire times. So I mean so i i I think it's clear there in this aspect. But uh [2:12:59, 2:13:02]: So yeah, so I appreciate that, Mayor. So let's just see [2:13:05, 2:13:07]: What we can do to [2:13:08, 2:13:28]: have everybody happy tonight knowing that we do have a a a great plan in place that's gonna satisfy the city, it's gonna satisfy the residents, and it's gonna give us a bright future for this area as far as the kind of um [2:13:28, 2:13:38]: commercial that's gonna come in and even the kind of uh residential. And I do appreciate uh Mrs. Gann, I do appreciate your comments [2:13:38, 2:13:39]: With the [2:13:40, 2:13:47]: interior of this of the development, I think that was great, great dialogue and and that's always a concern [2:13:48, 2:13:50]: You know, the quality of life. [2:13:50, 2:13:58]: How do you live within these subdivisions? And I think we had to take all of that in consideration as well, the quality of life. [2:14:00, 2:14:01]: Let's see what isn't it? [2:14:02, 2:14:04]: I thought it fifty. [2:14:11, 2:14:16]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Are the setbacks fifty feet? What are the setbacks? [2:14:18, 2:14:21]: For the town homes or the single family? [2:14:36, 2:14:38]: Ryan, do you know off the top of your head? [2:14:45, 2:14:47]: for the corner because it's a public. [2:14:48, 2:14:50]: We didn't. [2:14:53, 2:14:56]: Which one's that? [2:15:00, 2:15:20]: Because it's a put-up location. But as Ryan spoke to earlier, if there are some conditions that uh council wants to put on the property, then we can definitely entertain those. Um some of this feedback is first-time feedback tonight, unfortunately, because I don't have [2:15:20, 2:15:29]: have time to get our engineers online and check the feasibility of it, but obviously if it's approved with a condition of that sort, is that something that we would have to [2:15:32, 2:15:52]: Okay, so did you get your answer in reference to the setback? Well, I did. Sorry, I just realized the mic was off. That was townhomes, that was all of them twenty feet? Because it's a PUD application, it's based on the concept plan, so it's throughout. But I wanna say that in the past with our other applications, we required a additional amount of setback, like thirty five feet was it? Yeah, that was in if it's in the [2:15:54, 2:16:02]: If it's in the MFR district, it requires fifty feet frontage. Uh-huh. And we've been issuing variances to thirty feet. [2:16:03, 2:16:06]: Yeah, we've been reducing it to thirty feet. [2:16:10, 2:16:10]: Standard. [2:16:10, 2:16:11]: And this is twin. [2:16:13, 2:16:15]: Mm. Then this is twenty though. [2:16:15, 2:16:25]: Yes, she's basing it off her concept plan. When you do a a PUD doesn't have set PUD Plan Unit Development Zoning doesn't have setback requirements. It's based off a concept a concept plan. [2:16:25, 2:16:30]: Okay, but we can request those, right? Yes, you as a condition of zoning, yes. [2:16:30, 2:16:31]: Okay. [2:16:32, 2:16:44]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Uh Mrs. Hogan, I I I I I may have missed it. I was uh asked the question, is Hogan still willing to [2:16:46, 2:16:47]: Stay in the game. [2:16:47, 2:17:02]: Ah, I'm I do apologize, Councilman, I did hear you ask that. Uh that question is a bit out of my hands. We are under contract with the seller of this property and so the seller would have to determine if he wants to stay under contract to get allowed additional time. [2:17:06, 2:17:09]: All right. So So uh Mayor, um [2:17:11, 2:17:22]: I was wondering, are you willing to make since you are the district representative, are you willing to make a motion with uh any type of conditions uh for the council's consideration to approve or deny? [2:17:25, 2:17:26]: Yes, sir. [2:17:27, 2:17:35]: And request to reduce the number of mutants to a hundred and fifty single family and a hundred and twenty five. [2:17:36, 2:17:38]: Okay. [2:17:40, 2:17:42]: Yeah, repeat. [2:17:43, 2:17:55]: The applicant proposed the condition for approval of a hundred and twenty-five townhomes and a hundred and fifty single family units for a total of two hundred and seventy-five units down from two hundred and ninety-six units. [2:17:57, 2:17:57]: Okay. [2:18:00, 2:18:02]: Well go ahe what's the question, sir? Two one seventy five. [2:18:03, 2:18:07]: Two seventy five. One twenty five town homes and one fifty single. [2:18:08, 2:18:17]: But the bu the buffer is five feet on the sides. So are the houses gonna be reach out and touch I'm five feet and I'm the shortest little thing there is. [2:18:18, 2:18:19]: So I I need to know. [2:18:20, 2:18:23]: You know, that might a little bit of town home. [2:18:23, 2:18:25]: So I mean I'm not trying to be funny. [2:18:25, 2:18:31]: Councilwoman Gat, it's ten feet total between the homes because it's a five foot setback for each. Yeah, that's two of me. [2:18:33, 2:18:34]: That's two of me. [2:18:35, 2:18:36]: And I'm not too big. [2:18:38, 2:18:39]: That's my concern. [2:18:41, 2:19:01]: All right, so right now 125 and 150 is what you're willing to to to do. Yes, sir. All right. Yeah, yeah. Well st stand by a second, please, before I did you Mr. I am prepared to make a motion. I wanted to to see where the conversation was going and uh Mrs. Hogan did say they are willing to to stay in the game. [2:19:01, 2:19:09]: I and I think this is good with the reduction. Uh and that may help Mrs. Gantt. Did that [2:19:10, 2:19:12]: Councilwoman Gantt, did that sort of [2:19:12, 2:19:15]: Help your concern any for the [2:19:15, 2:19:17]: Well, yeah. [2:19:17, 2:19:28]: I don't know if it did any good. I um I mean it's five feet side buffers, two on each side, so that's ten feet. Mm-hmm. That's two of me from one house to the next. [2:19:29, 2:19:30]: Right. That's it. [2:19:31, 2:19:32]: Just so you know. [2:19:32, 2:19:52]: Right, right. Well, I I I will say that um that the Homeowners Association uh wants to approve. I do represent them. Uh it is unfortunate that we could not get the uh commercial component in, but I think again the [2:19:52, 2:20:12]: The fear of the beast coming in and really just taking this over anyway. I think that is really the biggest concern right now that if we do deny that we leave that door open. [2:20:12, 2:20:20]: open. I don't from what I'm getting from the Homeowners Association, uh, they don't want to roll the dice that way. [2:20:21, 2:20:25]: They don't want to take that chance. So with that being said, [2:20:25, 2:20:27]: Um I will motion [2:20:28, 2:20:48]: to approve the rezoning case RZ 2023-05 consideration to request a rezoning for the three parcels on Davidson Parkway and Walter Way from C three heavy commercial. [2:20:48, 2:20:55]: To PUD plan unit development to allow a mixed residential development. [2:20:57, 2:21:07]: I do do we need to put in any conditions such as the the the change in the number of home yes, with the conditions to reduce [2:21:07, 2:21:08]: Um [2:21:09, 2:21:22]: the townhomes to one twenty five and the single detached to one fifty. Uh did I miss any other conditions other than that? Was it any set and and the setback [2:21:23, 2:21:29]: Setback. Thirty feet is my recommendation. Is that on the town homes only, Councilwoman Gat? [2:21:30, 2:21:42]: I n I whatever we've done with the other communities, it's all i they've been thirty feet or thirty five? Thirty feet on townhomes. Huh? Thirty feet on townhomes. Thirty feet for townhomes and what about the single family? [2:21:42, 2:21:49]: Uh they usually are fifty feet front yard seven. And fifty feet residential. [2:21:51, 2:21:52]: You see more comment. [2:21:53, 2:21:59]: Okay. Okay. Oh Mrs. Hogan is that acceptable by the the by the builder? [2:22:02, 2:22:03]: That's that's our proof. [2:22:03, 2:22:04]: Mm. [2:22:11, 2:22:12]: Right quick. [2:22:16, 2:22:21]: Staff recommended the denial but we but uh if you approved it we have several conditions that need to be read into the record. [2:22:22, 2:22:26]: Right. That's what that's why we're trying to make sure we we do that. [2:22:26, 2:22:33]: So let's can you for the record can you indicate those conditions uh from staff? [2:22:35, 2:22:38]: One question. Oh a question too. [2:22:38, 2:22:42]: Stand by, stand by speaker. All right, we'll go get to your question in a second. [2:22:56, 2:22:57]: Mm-hmm. [2:22:58, 2:22:59]: [8583.1, 8587.1]: People are interested in that cultures and [2:23:08, 2:23:21]: If if if if drive for would they have to do a special use permit? For drive time? They they don't they don't because [2:23:22, 2:23:42]: Yeah, but see, but they they they want me to you know, my homeowner so shit, they want me to go ahead and get through. You think I need to ask for a recess? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Um if you keep it. [2:23:42, 2:23:45]: Let me see if I can get a recess. [2:23:45, 2:24:05]: Mayor Ford, I know I'm in the middle of my motion. Yes, sir. Um I I think we all need to get a better understanding of the conditions. I did read into the motion uh the rezoning case, but when it comes to the [2:24:05, 2:24:20]: uh conditions such as the reductions, the setbacks, and even the uh staff recommendation, um I like to ask counsel for a five-minute recess. [2:24:21, 2:24:33]: All right. Council, we want a five minute recess? So moved. Is there s uh all f okay uh all in favor indicate? Five minute recess? Okay it's approved. All right, we'll take a five minute recess. [2:24:35, 2:24:36]: Mm. [2:24:40, 2:24:43]: Council, I need you back on the dies, please. [2:25:10, 2:25:13]: Council, I need you back on the dias, please, so we can get going. [2:25:20, 2:25:40]: Yes sir. I got a communication from the city management with the meaning uh uh COVID uh communication. So we wanted to move this uh makes that something more do we need to watch it? Yeah, we're gonna have to use. [2:25:40, 2:25:42]: Yes. Okay. All right. [2:25:42, 2:25:58]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I need uh council back to the back to dial. So we made a motion to go in a five minute recess. It's a little more than five minutes. So I need a motion to reconvene our meeting, please. So move. Second. Okay, from Miss Barber to Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. [2:25:58, 2:26:12]: All right, so we're back we're back on a session. Now yes sir. Uh a move to move this agenda item down the agenda. [2:26:12, 2:26:14]: There's still some [2:26:14, 2:26:27]: conversation but I move to move this agenda item down on the agenda. Well down agenda so the uh the last agenda item is number eleven so this will go down past the eleven. Once we get to eleven then we'll bring this back up. [2:26:28, 2:26:29]: Okay. [2:26:29, 2:26:32]: Second. Okay. Miss Holliday. [2:26:34, 2:26:37]: Well the motion is to move this agenda item down. [2:26:37, 2:26:57]: First let me go back since we're reconvening. I will remove my original motion, which was incomplete, but I removed that motion. Now I'm motioning to move this agenda item down to agenda item It'll be after eleven. Eleven. Okay. [2:26:57, 2:27:10]: There's a second emotion. Mr. Allison has a second. All favor, please indicate. Okay, on that note, then we'll continue on. We'll go back to uh uh item five and we'll reopen that uh uh public hearing on that as well. [2:27:10, 2:27:30]: Okay, now let's see here. Item number six, we uh we took that off the agenda. We we're gonna reconvene on that at a later date. So item number six that dealt with the lottery process determined the rewarding of two additional alcohol licenses and possibly to two additional licenses for certain other types of businesses in the city of Stockbridge. It uh it's been deferred to a later date. So we've [2:27:30, 2:27:50]: here for that particular one specifically. Unfortunately we won't be here tonight. We'll have to re-announce at another public uh public meeting. Okay, so we'll move on to item number seven. Council consideration to approve the renewal of landscape maintenance services contract with Yellowstone landscape in the amount of$350,000. Funding source is from the government building amphitheater budgeting. [2:27:50, 2:27:55]: funds presented by Mr. Aaron, please. Mr. Aaron. Mr. Aaron. [2:27:57, 2:28:03]: Right, item number seven, sir. Okay, I'm sorry. There we go. Got Al doing this tonight. All right, sir. [2:28:04, 2:28:14]: Yes, I'll answer for uh for the Yellowstone uh landscaping company. We're just asking for approval of uh contract renewal for Yellowstone. [2:28:14, 2:28:15]: Landscaping company. [2:28:18, 2:28:22]: Yes, any questions that anybody have for council have for yeah, go ahead, Ms. Barber. [2:28:24, 2:28:27]: Um so our current contract that's active. [2:28:28, 2:28:32]: The amount that we're paying is it three hundred thousand dollars that we're currently paying? [2:28:37, 2:28:43]: Um, I'm not sure if if this is an increase or not, but from my understanding that it this was already budgeted. [2:28:44, 2:28:51]: Ms. Aaron's coming, sir. Okay. Um, I just need to know what we're currently paying and if this is an increase. [2:28:54, 2:29:14]: What we're currently paying is around three hundred and twenty-four thousand. So we added some additional funding in case council wanted to do some things during the year, like add additional pine straw. They're not going up on the contract, but we just added some additional funding in case there are some items that are not covered in the scope of service. [2:29:14, 2:29:16]: [8957.0, 8958.1]: Then perform. [2:29:18, 2:29:21]: Okay, so this is a contract renewal. Yes. [2:29:23, 2:29:25]: So we should be approving the amount. [2:29:26, 2:29:27]: Of the contract. [2:29:27, 2:29:28]: Renewal. [2:29:29, 2:29:33]: Not the extra, I'm sure it it's already in your budget, you already said. [2:29:34, 2:29:36]: Three hundred and fifty you budget for this. [2:29:36, 2:29:40]: So we should be approving the contract amount. [2:29:40, 2:29:41]: Not what you [2:29:41, 2:29:44]: Estimate might be overage. [2:29:45, 2:29:49]: That's why I always ask for the supporting documents. [2:29:50, 2:29:51]: I need no [2:29:52, 2:29:54]: This three hundred and fifty thousand. [2:29:54, 2:29:57]: That is not the amount of the contract. [2:29:58, 2:30:13]: So the supporting documents are included and like I say the reason why we ask cause there's always a request to do some things in addition to and there's no money for that. [2:30:13, 2:30:33]: So we're getting questioned about, well, why they don't do that. Well, there's not funding available to do those things you want to do because there's been some talking concern like mulch. You only get one application a year. We try to do that right before the concert season. But before the end of the year, the mulch needs to be replaced or replenished. [2:30:33, 2:30:41]: But if we just go with the budgeted amount, there's no money to refresh or replenish those kind of things. [2:30:42, 2:30:46]: A contract is set. There are set terms. [2:30:46, 2:30:49]: There are set scope of work. [2:30:49, 2:30:52]: That is the amount that we should be approving. [2:30:53, 2:30:55]: Well not what you budgeted. [2:30:55, 2:31:15]: I don't that is what's confusing. I don't have an issue with that, but like I say, I know we're constantly asked why we don't do this, why we don't do that. So we're trying to ensure that if there's some things that you want to see done, that there's money available to do that. And that's the only if you want to do it. [2:31:15, 2:31:27]: for the budget amount, we're fine with that as well. But then just know that if something comes up during the year that you want it done, it will not be done because you would not have money available to. [2:31:27, 2:31:29]: So in that instance [2:31:29, 2:31:31]: You would bring back to the council. [2:31:32, 2:31:33]: An amendment. [2:31:34, 2:31:36]: to the budget or to the contract. [2:31:37, 2:31:38]: And we would approve. [2:31:38, 2:31:42]: Whatever the added services are that we're requesting. [2:31:42, 2:31:46]: But this says for us to approve the renewal. [2:31:46, 2:31:47]: Of the contract. [2:31:48, 2:31:50]: So I need to know what the actual [2:31:50, 2:31:53]: contract amount is [2:31:53, 2:31:53]: Well. [2:31:56, 2:31:57]: That's just me. [2:31:58, 2:32:18]: Any other any other comments from the council? Yes, go ahead, sir. Let me just say this. Certainly those those emeritus points that need to be ironed out. So sounds like to me what you just really need to do is say, okay, we'll replace the mulch twice or three times. I thought we were on a quarterly basis. I thought at some point we had agreed that we were gonna do the [2:32:18, 2:32:38]: pine straw quarterly because that's what it called for in the past and uh because certainly once a year certainly is not enough in order to make that happen. So how what's the frequency that you will be able to do it by going up to the 350? I think that'll kinda uh tell tell us what the extra money is going to be for. [2:32:38, 2:32:43]: Yeah, we're gonna increase the frequency of the mulch replacement or the services. [2:32:43, 2:32:52]: Well some well, some of that we came predetermined because as you know that we finished some of the area as far as the amphitheater, the back parking lot area. [2:32:53, 2:33:13]: So there's a lot of stuff that's been added to that that we have to compensate for and we can keep it all uniform together. That whole North Lee street and everything like that. So um across from PD, South Lee, all of that was redone. That had it get moach and had it look uniform as well as with the amphitheater. [2:33:13, 2:33:25]: City Hall, and PD. So there's a lot of that stuff where we can account for, but we have data provements on East Atlanta. A lot of that was added on as well. [2:33:25, 2:33:45]: So so basically what you're saying is there are additional service'cause right now North Leastry ain't is not being the grass is not being cut to my I is before the concert this weekend is very long. Yeah. So maybe it was it's been a couple several weeks. So certainly that'll be in that we will be it we that will be added to this. Well [2:33:45, 2:34:05]: No, I wasn't addressing uh grass cutting as far as North Lee, but there is mulch. There is mulch. Right, but I'm saying that this is the Yellowstone contract here is for the grass cutting and everything, right? Right, for the landscape. Right. So in essence, you're adding the service. I'm hoping that's what you're telling me that you're gonna add service on North Lee Street, so it's maintained. Correct. [2:34:05, 2:34:25]: Like the rest of this is. That's what you're doing. Yes. Right. So that's what I'm saying. Her question was valid. You are adding additional services to what we're doing, which is something that we need to do because the grass is not being maintained on North Lee Street. So this would allow us to do that. It will also allow us to be able to uh replenish the [2:34:25, 2:34:39]: mulch uh at a more frequent basis uh as well. And this is kind of like doing a up to. You not you may not use the 350,000, but you will have authority to use the 350,000. So we do that regul we do that sometimes. [2:34:40, 2:34:48]: Regularly, what we say, you you basically you're asking for authority to spend up to three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You may not do that. [2:34:49, 2:35:01]: Yes, like one of the things that came up is about the sound and noise. So there was a request made to plant some additional trees. There is no money budgeted. [2:35:01, 2:35:02]: To to do that. [2:35:03, 2:35:11]: Because we're actually at the contract limit. So in order to do things like that for the noise mitigation, to plan additional planning. [2:35:12, 2:35:32]: There's gotta be money from somewhere and you talk about a budget amendment, you still gonna have to amend the the budget where you take the m where do you take the money from? If the budget is X amount and then we need the additional money and it's not in the budget, where does that money come to do those additional things? So which basically you explained that you're gonna plant more trees, you're gonna [2:35:31, 2:35:51]: to do more mulch, you're going to increase the scope of services. Basically you asked her the question which is her originally you said you were not, but you are, you in any case it uh it seemed like you indicated and I won't speak for you that there were not going to be an additional services, but there are. So I do understand you need the additional money to do work on the sound [2:35:51, 2:35:56]: mitigation and that other stuff with the tree. So I understand where you're going. Yeah. [2:35:57, 2:35:59]: Any other questions for the council? [2:35:59, 2:36:00]: I do. [2:36:00, 2:36:01]: Go ahead, please. [2:36:01, 2:36:08]: The item as it is on the agenda says council consideration to approve contract renewal invitation. [2:36:09, 2:36:11]: Contract renewal. [2:36:12, 2:36:17]: There are specific terms, scope of work that this contract covers. [2:36:18, 2:36:23]: Anything outside of that will need to be brought back to the council if it exceeds [2:36:24, 2:36:25]: Fifty thousand dollars. [2:36:25, 2:36:30]: So planting some trees, that won't have to come back to the council. [2:36:30, 2:36:32]: You have the city manager who has the authority. [2:36:33, 2:36:34]: to spend up to fifty thousand. [2:36:35, 2:36:36]: What I don't want to do. [2:36:37, 2:36:38]: Is approved [2:36:38, 2:36:40]: Three hundred and fifty thousand. [2:36:41, 2:36:43]: Based on what your br budget is. [2:36:43, 2:36:44]: I wanna know. [2:36:45, 2:36:46]: Exactly. [2:36:46, 2:36:47]: What is the amount? [2:36:47, 2:36:49]: Of the contract. [2:36:50, 2:36:53]: Our current contract is at three hundred and twenty seven thousand. [2:36:54, 2:36:59]: I am willing to approve the renewal of three hundred and twenty seven thousand. [2:37:00, 2:37:04]: In your budget, you may have three hundred and fifty thousand budgeted. [2:37:04, 2:37:05]: Four [2:37:05, 2:37:06]: landscaping. [2:37:07, 2:37:12]: But I don't wanna approve three hundred and fifty thousand'cause that's what you're asking me for. It's already in the budget. [2:37:13, 2:37:14]: It's the contract. [2:37:15, 2:37:17]: Та ви а тобі консирань. [2:37:18, 2:37:19]: The contract amount. [2:37:19, 2:37:21]: That's what I wanna know. That's all. [2:37:23, 2:37:34]: So we're asking for a twenty-three thousand dollar increase to that contract amount to cover the additional things you had done when the road was widened. [2:37:35, 2:37:48]: and reconfigured. We added additional areas that like Mr. Barnes said, that are moats, that's gotta be taken care of. They gotta be replenished and refreshed as well. And and those areas gotta be maintained. So [2:37:49, 2:37:58]: Well then I would think that the scope of work for the contract will have to be revised to include all of those areas. [2:37:58, 2:38:02]: What you're asking us to do is to renew the existing contract. [2:38:03, 2:38:05]: If you're changing it and you're adding something else. [2:38:06, 2:38:08]: It's not the new it's not the same contract. [2:38:09, 2:38:10]: It's different. [2:38:11, 2:38:13]: That's all. I see now um probably [2:38:14, 2:38:16]: going to be opposing this. [2:38:17, 2:38:19]: Only because I don't have support and documents. [2:38:19, 2:38:35]: to support this 350,000 that you're requesting. That's all. Thank you. But also what was done though, prior to those areas on East Atlanta being redone and Lee Street, those areas did not have mulch. They just had grass. [2:38:35, 2:38:54]: If you recall on East Atlanta Road over there, that was grass. Over there where they reconfigured the road by the school, that was just grass. It's got mulch in it. On East Oh I'm gonna say Lee Street, South and North Lee Street. Now you got mulch instead of just grass. There's a difference between cutting grass and putting mulch down. There's an an additional cost. [2:38:54, 2:38:56]: And I understand that, Mr. Erin. I guess what I [2:38:57, 2:39:01]: What I was expecting was that you would either bring a quote [2:39:01, 2:39:05]: For whatever the extra services are. [2:39:05, 2:39:10]: That's beyond what we're already what we're currently contracted for. [2:39:10, 2:39:13]: If I knew how much the extra services were. [2:39:14, 2:39:19]: then I could support approving this, but I don't know how much the extra services are. [2:39:19, 2:39:21]: All I know is on the agenda. [2:39:22, 2:39:24]: It says for this particular item. [2:39:24, 2:39:30]: Council consideration to approve the renewal of the lands landscape maintenance services contract. [2:39:31, 2:39:32]: To renew. Yeah. [2:39:32, 2:39:34]: The existing contract. [2:39:36, 2:39:45]: What are there questions coming? I'm not confused. I'm real clear. Okay, thank you. Then can we just get approval for the regular the original contracted amount? [2:39:47, 2:39:49]: And what is that original contract amount? [2:39:50, 2:39:51]: Because that's not in here. [2:39:52, 2:39:56]: That's what I asked. The original contract amount. [2:39:56, 2:40:00]: Із три хандатосев тазен тухаренсік стін дала. [2:40:02, 2:40:05]: And where's what the contract amount is for. [2:40:05, 2:40:07]: It's on page one. [2:40:07, 2:40:09]: Yeah, for the member. [2:40:09, 2:40:18]: On the back the agenda item form that you completed? Yes. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Where is that in the supporting the actual contract? [2:40:18, 2:40:21]: The second paragraph specifies what the contract amount. [2:40:22, 2:40:24]: Of a contract. [2:40:25, 2:40:28]: It said three hundred and twenty seven thousand two hundred and sixteen no. [2:40:31, 2:40:37]: Is it this page that's hard to read? This one? No, it's this page. [2:40:38, 2:40:41]: It's your agenda item form. [2:40:42, 2:40:45]: That's the form that's completed by staff? Yes. [2:40:45, 2:40:46]: I want to see [2:40:47, 2:40:50]: the information in the contract. [2:40:50, 2:40:52]: Because I know stab can kinda [2:40:52, 2:40:55]: Transpose mistakenly numbers. [2:40:56, 2:40:57]: We're talking about [2:40:58, 2:40:58]: Three hundred. [2:40:59, 2:41:01]: And twenty seven thousand dollars. [2:41:01, 2:41:19]: The the resolution, there was several resolutions cause when it was originally adopted, there wasn't sufficient funding. So we brought it back to you. This says the initial contract was approved by council on September twenty, twenty twenty-one for an estimated annual amount of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [2:41:19, 2:41:39]: On December 14, 2021, Resolution R twenty one, thirteen eighty-two, the city council approved an increase in the amount of fifty thousand dollars, bringing the annual total amount to three hundred thousand. On May thirtieth, twenty twenty-three, resolution R twenty three fifteen seven, and council approved the landscape maintenance project with [2:41:39, 2:41:48]: Yellowstone for general maintenance and grass cutting in the amount of three hundred and twenty-seven thousand two hundred and sixteen dollars from the FY twenty twenty-four budget. [2:41:49, 2:41:54]: So that's what the contract amount is, three hundred and twenty seven thousand two hundred and sixteen dollars. [2:41:55, 2:41:55]: Thank you, sir. [2:41:57, 2:42:17]: Any other comments from the council? Listen, I'm about common sense. Is this what you need is this what we need to maintain the marriage? Well, if that's what you're gonna approve, then we'll go with the budget amount of the biggest. [2:42:17, 2:42:37]: Ms. Barber's concern, but she's only one council member. The deal is the rest of us up here have to work together to be able to understand. If you now, if you're telling me you don't need the money, then that's different. But if you're telling me you need the money to plant trees, to minimize this the sound the sound, you need money to take care of the extra areas that need money. [2:42:37, 2:42:55]: You need money to do the areas that we spent three million dollars to improve so they would look beautiful. I want them to look beautiful. I want them to look maintained just like they are today without you coming back to me saying they look like North Lee Street because the grass ain't been cut because it hasn't been approved. [2:42:56, 2:43:16]: So like I said, the reason why we ask for the three hundred and fifty, because there are always things that come up with. It makes sense. Somebody comes in City Hall and says, why is this looking a certain way? It's not looking like that, because there is not money to to do those. Yellowstone is only gonna do what's in the contract and what in there. [2:43:16, 2:43:20]: Scope of service. If it says one application or two applications. [2:43:20, 2:43:21]: That's all we're gonna get. [2:43:21, 2:43:41]: But if we got some additional money, there's some things you wanna see done, council wanna see done, then we have money available to do that. If not, then we coming back before council and funds wasn't weren't budgeted, so where are we gonna get that money from? You know, if you're gonna amend the budget or adjust the budget, that money's gotta come somewhere. So we just try [2:43:41, 2:43:58]: Trying to be proactive instead of being a media. Better yet, how about this? This is I I've asked several times for council comments, only two of you have spoke. That's why make a motion. Go ahead and make a motion. [2:43:58, 2:44:10]: I certainly I make a motion to go with the staff recommendation to be very proactive to be ready for these engagements to keep the area exemplary outside City Hall. Is it sa is there a second? [2:44:11, 2:44:12]: Is there a second? [2:44:14, 2:44:15]: Okay. [2:44:15, 2:44:16]: It's not a second. [2:44:17, 2:44:19]: All right. [2:44:20, 2:44:22]: Now no any other comments from the council? [2:44:22, 2:44:23]: Mayor Ford. [2:44:24, 2:44:25]: Yes, ma'am. [2:44:26, 2:44:27]: I will make a motion. [2:44:28, 2:44:28]: Mm-hmm. [2:44:28, 2:44:31]: That we renew the current contract. [2:44:31, 2:44:33]: And the amount of [2:44:33, 2:44:35]: A motion to approve. [2:44:35, 2:44:45]: To renew the current contract an amount of three hundred and twenty seven thousand. What was it? Two hundred and sixteen dollars. Three twenty seven two sixteen. [2:44:47, 2:44:49]: Three twenty seven two [2:44:50, 2:44:51]: Three twenty seven. [2:44:51, 2:44:53]: Two hundred and sixteen dollars. [2:44:55, 2:45:01]: Okay. And if there are additional expenses that are needed [2:45:02, 2:45:04]: And they exceed fifty thousand. [2:45:04, 2:45:06]: Please do bring it back to the council. [2:45:07, 2:45:13]: We know that anything less than fifty thousand, the city manager can sign off on it without bringing it to us. [2:45:14, 2:45:16]: That's my motion. Is there a second to that motion? [2:45:17, 2:45:20]: Is there a second to the motion? [2:45:20, 2:45:23]: Mr. Berry, second that motion. Any further discussion? [2:45:24, 2:45:30]: I have a discussion with the Go ahead, please. On the second page it says on September eleventh, twenty twenty three, council approved the payment amount of [2:45:31, 2:45:38]: Seventy thousand one hundred and fifty eight dollars and ninety-six cents to Yellowstone landscaping for the Campground Road and Hudson Bridge median enhancement work. [2:45:39, 2:45:40]: Is that in addition to [2:45:41, 2:45:57]: Our budget or is that that was that was a part of the budget? That was something that was outside the contract. That was a beautification project for Campground and Hudson Bridge Road. That's that wasn't included in the budget amount. This was something in addition to [2:45:57, 2:45:59]: So why is it in our notes here? [2:46:00, 2:46:08]: Did you submit that to the procurement prepares this form and we just we present it. [2:46:08, 2:46:16]: Okay. I don't know why they put that in there for because that's not included in the contract. It's not. This was a one time [2:46:16, 2:46:18]: Where's procurement? Are they here? [2:46:19, 2:46:19]: Oh. [2:46:20, 2:46:27]: But I also is one of the reasons why we were trying to be proactive for the calls and stuff that we get as far as that. [2:46:27, 2:46:33]: Okay. That and I get that. And I understand that. And that was for for needed at that time. [2:46:34, 2:46:54]: My question is, so the additional funds that you wanted was to just in case for other upkeeps and things that we would need in the future. There wasn't something in addition where the company said, well, that's gonna cost you more money right now. No, no. That's just like [2:46:54, 2:47:01]: that whole Hudson Bridge and Campground where maybe you all or someone complains and they want beautification that [2:47:02, 2:47:09]: We wouldn't have to go in front of you all for those extra funds. We can just go ahead and get it tackled and then just keep moving on. [2:47:10, 2:47:13]: I get it. Well I think we should wait until the budget to [2:47:14, 2:47:21]: put those that cushion, you know, put that in there if that's what we need, if we're gonna look at that. I appreciate you guys being proactive with it. [2:47:21, 2:47:25]: I mean the contract renews in September. I totally understand that. [2:47:25, 2:47:28]: And then our budget cycle doesn't start until January, right? [2:47:29, 2:47:35]: But we look at some of the things that we need based off of that, I would think. Um [2:47:39, 2:47:42]: I'm okay with re keeping the contract as is for now. [2:47:45, 2:47:47]: uh as far as m amount is concerned. [2:47:48, 2:47:51]: Okay, motion has been made and been seconded. Did Miss Barby have something else? [2:47:51, 2:48:09]: I do, I have a question. So m um Mr. Aaron, I know you pointed out the second page of this agenda item form. Um the amount what was it? Three hundred and twenty-seven thousand two hundred and sixteen dollars. Yes. But looking at the actual agreement. [2:48:09, 2:48:16]: The amount that it has on here is for two hundred and forty-four thousand nine hundred and ninety-two dollars. [2:48:16, 2:48:20]: Annually? No, that was written that was That's what it says. [2:48:20, 2:48:21]: And then it goes on. [2:48:22, 2:48:37]: It explains the equal monthly installments billed in the amount of twenty thousand dollars. So I'm I need to understand, I know that this was signed back in twenty twenty-one and we've had some renewals since then and the cost has increased. [2:48:37, 2:48:57]: No ma'am. Explain to me how we go from 244,000 to 327,000. Because when this contract was initially signed, the amphitheater was not online. Okay. And so it wasn't accounted for in the in the original scope of services for the landscaping. So it includes [2:48:57, 2:49:17]: Increased the ad the landscaping for the amphitheater. That's why it went from the$244,000 up to$300 because you didn't have the amphitheater at that time. Thank you for that. One more question. So I'm looking at the 2024 budget book. Can you tell me? [2:49:17, 2:49:31]: me I just want to know what was budgeted for landscaping. Can you tell me where I would find this? I don't I don't have the budget in front of me right now. I but I just want to see information. Can the um interim treasurer [2:49:32, 2:49:36]: Tell me where I can find what was budgeted for landscaping for this year. [2:49:37, 2:49:38]: Do you have a copy of the budget? [2:49:39, 2:49:45]: I have copy of the budget here, but I'm not able to find where landscaping is. [2:49:53, 2:49:55]: Yeah. Keep keep on it. [2:49:56, 2:49:57]: Because it goes all over here. [2:50:02, 2:50:05]: Cold sign and then six. Mm-hmm. [2:50:45, 2:50:49]: Why they're looking at that, but can I get some clarification real quick? Sure, go ahead. So [2:50:50, 2:50:59]: 'Cause I'm I'm torn in between. I like the fact I don't want staff to think that I don't appreciate you thinking ahead with that cushion amount. I love that idea. [2:50:59, 2:51:03]: I don't like being behind the curve on it. But I also [2:51:04, 2:51:05]: In thinking [2:51:06, 2:51:18]: If we have a contract agreement, which we did have and we we did increase the amount based off of what I'm reading here on page one and the history. I trust staff, by the way. [2:51:18, 2:51:20]: on what was written. [2:51:20, 2:51:25]: And my uh the amount is three hundred and twenty seven thousand two sixteen. [2:51:25, 2:51:27]: Currently for maintenance, right? [2:51:29, 2:51:32]: And so you're talking about a little less than [2:51:33, 2:51:42]: So you're talking about twenty-three thousand dollars more in addition to what we already have. So by the time we do the services here. [2:51:43, 2:52:03]: It would be okay to come back to us and ask for additional I understand you try to prevent that, but if it was something that was needed. Well, yeah, just in a timely matter, you know, we'll we'll get the calls like, hey, you know, can we get these flowers changed? Or, you know, saying, Can we get them to do this? You know what I'm saying? So [2:52:03, 2:52:17]: You know, we're being asked to act fast on, you know, saying the services and the results, you know, saying. So that's the reason for us to wanna, you know, make that increase. That we don't have to come back for, you know, to you all and say, hey [2:52:18, 2:52:25]: Which you were asking for last week, we need, you know, X amount of dollars to get that accomplished. But we're not over budget right now. [2:52:25, 2:52:37]: Right. Excuse me. We're not over budget right now. We're we're halfway through. I'm just asking'cause the winter months have come. I'm just trying to figure it out. Right, right. Okay. No, we're not we're not over budget. [2:52:37, 2:52:38]: All right. So [2:52:40, 2:52:45]: All right, Miss Barber, did you get your answer? I did. Um actually for landscaping. [2:52:45, 2:52:47]: According to [2:52:47, 2:52:49]: The twenty twenty four budget. [2:52:49, 2:52:52]: It's budgeted for three hundred and thirty thousand. [2:52:53, 2:52:54]: Put this here. [2:52:54, 2:52:59]: What you're asking us to approve is three hundred and fifty thousand, so it exceeds what you budgeted. [2:53:00, 2:53:20]: So this is actually for next year for twenty twenty-five because it was requested that contract be presented a hundred and twenty days before expiration for renewal. The current contract expires in September of this year. It would include three months of this year plus [2:53:20, 2:53:20]: Mm-hmm. [2:53:21, 2:53:32]: that you got enough money in this year's budget to cover us what we're doing. But for the 12 months, this you're proving really for like 15 months. [2:53:32, 2:53:35]: The you know, the three months [2:53:35, 2:53:45]: to the end of the year, then twelve months for next year. So we ti we're just actually asking for FY twenty five for it to be three fifty. That's what we was gonna budget. [2:53:46, 2:53:55]: One last question. So that seventy thousand um that was spent for the campground road maintenance or landscaping. [2:53:56, 2:53:58]: Is that a part of No. [2:53:59, 2:54:03]: What you it's not a part of that. [2:54:04, 2:54:06]: Okay. Thank you, sir. [2:54:08, 2:54:09]: Okay, so if another [2:54:10, 2:54:20]: I just want to make uh we we had discussion. Yeah, you had discussion. You have another point, sir? I just want to say listen. [2:54:20, 2:54:40]: We don't wasted another 30 minutes. Listen, I I appreciate you guys. I do. I tr I really do. I this is what I ask of you is to be proactive. Just like yesterday when we had that trash situation over off of uh right across from campground, y'all were able to jump right on that because you had the funding already in your budget. Otherwise, you would have [2:54:40, 2:55:00]: Had to come to us to get somebody to authorize the cleanup and we'd have that trashed area still be over there right now. I understand. We gotta have trust in our staff when they come to us with recommendations that make sense. They're trying to do something and be very proactive for the area. [2:55:00, 2:55:20]: They're trying to improve our operation. But are we going to micromanage them and tell, listen, don't do that. Don't bring us any good ideas. You just do what we've already done. It sounds like a great idea to me. You're going to approve a 15-month budget going through, you're just starting three months early. You're starting three months early, you're adding three. [2:55:20, 2:55:28]: Three months to a year's renewal so that next we'll be prepared for next year right now instead of in two in three months. [2:55:28, 2:55:45]: It makes sense. Now in other we we we could go and keep going on in this same argument, but I want to encourage our staff to keep coming to us with good recommendations that make sense. And I will vote for them every single time. And I understand [2:55:46, 2:56:06]: I don't understand our hesitancy to embrace good change and good ideas. That's what I want to do. Sometimes I uh um it mystifies me that we don't embrace the changes that are being brought to us by professional staff. They are the experts on the work that they do. Who are we to tell them, listen, you don't need that? [2:56:06, 2:56:12]: You you they just tell they just sit there and told us for thirty minutes they do need it and we talked them out of it. [2:56:14, 2:56:25]: All right. If there are no other comments, the motion was on the floor to uh keep with the s uh budget numbers, original budget numbers that are outlined here three thout three hundred twenty seven thousand two hundred sixteen dollars. [2:56:26, 2:56:31]: All right. So matter of fact, uh how'bout this? Miss Holiday? [2:56:32, 2:56:33]: Meshaudi. [2:56:34, 2:56:35]: Read the motion back, please. [2:56:42, 2:56:43]: I'm hearing. [2:56:50, 2:56:55]: twenty seven thousand two hundred and sixteen dollars and if needed [2:56:55, 2:57:00]: Or any purchases over fifty thousand dollars which is over to six million. [2:57:04, 2:57:05]: Is that it to a motion, Ms. Barber? [2:57:07, 2:57:15]: Is that your motion? Okay. And that was seconded by Mr. Uh Berry. Okay. All um all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:57:17, 2:57:31]: Okay, you abstain? All in favor of motion, please. I'm abstaining too because uh uh to show support for the staff. Okay. Because they came up with a good idea. Okay. Okay, I'll all okay. Once again, all favor. Okay, I got two favor of the contract. [2:57:31, 2:57:33]: Screw me. Staying as is right now. [2:57:35, 2:57:36]: I'm I'm in favor. [2:57:37, 2:57:48]: You're of of keeping it okay. Keeping it. So so you're in favor of this motion. That's right, ma'am. Ms. Ganttz in favor. Mr. Mr. Barr is in favor. And Miss Barber's in favor. Okay, all polls. [2:57:49, 2:57:52]: And it's uh we got two abstentions. So pass three zero two. [2:57:53, 2:57:53]: Okay. [2:57:54, 2:57:55]: All right. [2:57:55, 2:58:06]: You got it now? I just got one further question. So now that we don't have North Lee Street covered, what what's gonna happen with North Lee Street since it's do we have enough money to cover that? [2:58:07, 2:58:10]: Because it's not currently the you're not do you have enough money to maintain it? [2:58:11, 2:58:12]: We'll we'll take care of it. [2:58:12, 2:58:32]: You got but I'm saying you you gonna have to come back and ask for money for that or answer. I mean it it's it's it's a possible. So like you said, any requests that maybe have from, you know, council or you know, any ideas will we'll be right back up here. So technically what's gonna happen is we're gonna do it. The money's gonna be spent for it. It just yellowstones. [2:58:32, 2:58:41]: Won't spend the money, but we'll just try to find some resources within the budget to ensure that it gets maintained. So the [2:58:44, 2:58:45]: All right gentlemen, appreciate it. [2:58:46, 2:58:48]: Motion passes. [2:58:48, 2:58:49]: Thank you, Mayor Council. Thank you. [2:58:50, 2:59:10]: Thank you. Council consideration approved the contract renewal invitation to bid ITB for number 16RFP 101216-DRR, American Tank Maintenance LLC, food uh full service tank maintenance program and amount of sixty-one thousand four hundred nineteen dollars. Funding [2:59:10, 2:59:30]: source would be the water department uh budgeted funds. Uh Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. On October 1st, 2021, the city of Stockbridge entered into a water tank maintenance contract with the American Tank Services. It was the initial term was one year with nine one-year renewals. So we're coming up [2:59:30, 2:59:37]: Upon renewal number three. So we're asking the city to approve us to renew the contract with American Tank Service. [2:59:38, 2:59:39]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [2:59:40, 2:59:48]: I move that we approve the American tank maintenance full service program in the amount of sixty one thousand four nineteen. Okay, is there a second to the motion? [2:59:50, 2:59:53]: Is there a second emotion? Oh mister Mr. Barrett second that? [2:59:54, 2:59:55]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [2:59:57, 3:00:01]: Okay, all polls? Opposed. Um exhibit B. [3:00:02, 3:00:04]: According to the [3:00:05, 3:00:14]: The motion the motion passes three three three one. If I may add my comment, mayor. I'm just want to make note the motion does pass. You can go on with your comment. [3:00:15, 3:00:19]: According to exhibit B of the contract. [3:00:19, 3:00:20]: It's missing. [3:00:21, 3:00:22]: And it's the compensation piece. [3:00:23, 3:00:28]: It says contractors shall r shall receive compensation from the city as set forth. [3:00:28, 3:00:31]: In the attached exhibits B. [3:00:32, 3:00:33]: That's not included. [3:00:36, 3:00:37]: Opposed. [3:00:45, 3:00:55]: Well, uh once again, as I said, Public Works is presenting what procurements gave to us to present. So we all we can only present the documents that were given to us. [3:00:56, 3:00:58]: See that so proper. [3:00:59, 3:01:01]: All right. We'll move on. [3:01:02, 3:01:12]: Thank you, Mayor. Council of Consideration, thank you. Council of Consideration filled the vacancy of the youth council advisory committee appointment of a member to serve an unexpired term. Mr Washington, please. [3:01:37, 3:01:40]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. We have three different [3:01:41, 3:02:01]: App we have three different board we have three different boards that have applicants on them. And each one of the members that have each one of the people who have submitted do if you all vote for them to be on would be able to fill it at the seat that's on there. Well you got one person for Henry Count we have one person for the youth advisory council. [3:02:01, 3:02:03]: Miss uh Tariqah Powell. [3:02:03, 3:02:05]: And her applications before you [3:02:06, 3:02:07]: You have [3:02:07, 3:02:13]: Just take one at a time, sir. Each each each each different board at a time. We have several line items sir. [3:02:14, 3:02:20]: All right, so you have Miss Tariqa Powell who submitted her application to be a member of the youth advisory council. [3:02:20, 3:02:22]: And that's for your consideration now. [3:02:23, 3:02:29]: Okay. Council, any questions in reference to this uh individual coming forward? He appointed the youth council? [3:02:32, 3:02:36]: If no questions then uh I need a motion to accept this uh this appointment. [3:02:37, 3:02:38]: Some oh [3:02:38, 3:02:45]: Ms. So moved. Okay, is there a second? Second. M Mr Berry's second that from Ms. Scanton. Ms. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. [3:02:46, 3:02:48]: Okay, so now it's decision. [3:02:48, 3:02:57]: Okay, appreciate that. All right, Council of Consideration to fill vacancies and appoint uh appoint members to the citywide development authority. Once again presented by Mr. Washington. [3:02:58, 3:03:03]: I you have two. You have Mr. Antonio Gordon and then you have [3:03:05, 3:03:06]: Yeah. [3:03:06, 3:03:07]: Yeah, three. [3:03:09, 3:03:12]: I think they're two apples with three. Three. [3:03:15, 3:03:17]: So am I well, I mean [3:03:20, 3:03:23]: Right,'cause in my book I have three vacancies. There are two vacancies. [3:03:24, 3:03:27]: Three years only six people you're going up at nine. [3:03:28, 3:03:33]: That's correct. Remember you all approved. We approved it nine. Right. We approved it in nine. [3:03:34, 3:03:35]: Yeah, okay, I want to hear. [3:03:35, 3:03:39]: All right, so I've got first I have is Antonio Gordon. [3:03:40, 3:03:40]: Yeah. [3:03:41, 3:03:45]: I have a second application that at least it's in my book from Antonio Gordon. [3:03:47, 3:03:47]: Mm-hmm. [3:03:48, 3:03:51]: Then I have Miss Kim Mays. [3:03:55, 3:03:57]: Then I have Miss Monica Jones. [3:04:01, 3:04:05]: Then I have Miss Ivy D. Sears. [3:04:08, 3:04:08]: Okay. [3:04:10, 3:04:13]: And you have you have these applications but only three vacancies. [3:04:14, 3:04:14]: Okay. [3:04:16, 3:04:23]: So so it's three individuals that need to be selected and this is for a duration of the amount of time. [3:04:25, 3:04:27]: What's the amount of time for the duration once approved? [3:04:28, 3:04:32]: Oh the for the C DA membership? Right, right. It's t it's it's two years or three years. [3:04:43, 3:04:43]: Okay. [3:04:54, 3:04:56]: Oh yeah. Up to four years. [3:04:59, 3:05:02]: I think it's two each. So member. [3:05:04, 3:05:13]: I'm not sure. Ms. Holliday, what if a new appointment for the city wide is it is it initial new appointment, is that two years to extent? Initially two years? [3:05:22, 3:05:35]: I th uh Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I thought that we agreed that all new members would have like I know we have staggering terms for everyone, but I thought we were putting everyone on these two year terms. [3:05:36, 3:05:36]: No. [3:05:38, 3:05:39]: We can, correct? [3:05:40, 3:05:41]: We can do that. [3:05:42, 3:05:45]: We can do that. We can put'em on two year terms. [3:05:46, 3:05:48]: Yeah. That's what we need to do. [3:05:52, 3:05:55]: are still in there. [3:05:56, 3:06:00]: So they're able to stack we're able to put these on two years and it still be staggered somewhat. [3:06:01, 3:06:13]: So if I'm to understand we increase it by three so those three individuals can have two year terms and there's somebody that's a fourth person that needs to fill an unexpired term, is that correct? [3:06:13, 3:06:13]: Third person. [3:06:14, 3:06:17]: I see. Okay. Did you understand that? [3:06:17, 3:06:33]: Two two new seats and one filled No no no no no no three new seats. Three new seats, there'll be two year terms for three new seats, and there'll be a fourth person that's gonna fill unaspired term of an individual that's left. It's my understanding. We agreed the three new seats. That's not it? [3:06:33, 3:06:34]: So then what is it? [3:06:37, 3:06:42]: Right. [3:06:43, 3:06:43]: Okay. [3:06:44, 3:06:47]: All right. [3:06:49, 3:06:50]: [11210.8, 11219.5]: So we okay fine. That's what we need to know. All right. So on that s note, then we have to as we approve this, we've got to figure out who gets to one unaspired term and who get the two new seats then. [3:07:00, 3:07:01]: It's not it's gotta be decided. [3:07:02, 3:07:03]: And bowed it on. [3:07:04, 3:07:05]: I'll make a motion. Go right in, please. [3:07:06, 3:07:17]: I would like to move that Monica Jones replaces the um current uh member that left, resigned. [3:07:20, 3:07:21]: And [3:07:22, 3:07:26]: I moved for Kimberly Mays and Ivy Sears. [3:07:28, 3:07:33]: For two year terms. For two year terms. I mean two two years in the term. All right. Is there a second to that motion? [3:07:34, 3:07:36]: Mr. Alzheimer's second, all favor, please indicate. [3:07:38, 3:07:56]: Okay. All polls? Oh, it's a unanimous decision? Oh it's a unanimous decision. Okay. Miss Halder, you have that right? Okay. All right. And then we have one let me make sure this Yeah, we got council consideration to fill vacancy to a downtown development authority board and appoint a member to serve the unexpired term. [3:07:57, 3:08:01]: And we only have one applicant and that is Miss Kenya Cook and her information is attached. [3:08:03, 3:08:12]: Okay, from Mr. Alexander and Mr Um Berry. If you know further conversations on favor, please indicate. [3:08:13, 3:08:23]: Yes, unanimous decision. All right. So congratulations to all these individuals for joining the boards. And I would imagine then, Miss Holiday, you'll work it out uh with them and myself to when I can swear them in. [3:08:24, 3:08:24]: Okay. [3:08:26, 3:08:34]: Okay, so on that note, we are now going back to uh the rezoning case that we talked about earlier. [3:08:35, 3:08:44]: Dealing with district two. We're now part of that part of the agenda. So and this deals with uh this goes back to our public hearing. Mayor forward. Yes, sir. [3:08:45, 3:08:46]: Um [3:08:47, 3:08:58]: Not to prolong this, I'll be willing to make a motion, but before I do, uh I'd like to ask uh Miss Hogan and Mr. Gardner to come forward. Sure. [3:08:59, 3:09:01]: Mr. Hogan, Mr. Gardner, come forward, please. [3:09:12, 3:09:15]: Is there anything that you'd like to share before I make my motion? [3:09:19, 3:09:35]: Good evening, Council. Good evening. Uh at this time, applicant would request a rezoning to a PUD with the site plan specific to be worked out with your staff members for approval, retaining two acres of the site as commercial. [3:09:39, 3:09:57]: With the preference for vertical mixed use commercial, that's what we will try. Um, but at any rate it will be commercial, but the seller will have to retain someone for the commercial. So preference will be for vertical mixed use, but it will be up to the seller for c the commercial that is retained there. [3:09:58, 3:09:59]: True. [3:10:00, 3:10:02]: I'm not just such a good one that he's preferred to do. [3:10:06, 3:10:13]: PUD with site plan to be worked out with staff members at a later date. [3:10:18, 3:10:21]: And to retain two acres as commercial on the site. [3:10:22, 3:10:27]: And also to allow an easement for the city for trail connectivity. [3:10:34, 3:10:54]: And when we work with the site plant, so if you look at your that cul-de-sac and that's that roadway, that is a racetrack. And that needs to go away. Um, because a car in the back of that cul-de-sac with a straightaway is gonna speed. So we're gonna work with them to try to get some other mid block crossings and do some other uh [3:10:54, 3:10:57]: traffic harming devices so that that doesn't become a racetrack. [3:10:58, 3:11:03]: Um I could tell you because I've seen it happen before. If you have anything over a thousand feet in length, [3:11:04, 3:11:06]: You're gonna have somebody speeding on that road. [3:11:07, 3:11:08]: Um [3:11:08, 3:11:28]: And obviously getting speed humps and developments is a problem unless you want to mandate that they put it in there. Um but we could actually work with we could work with them to on the design to make it a little bit more pedestrian friend pedestrian friendly with the design and some a little bit more connectivity. But definitely to have the the trail system as well as the potential [3:11:28, 3:11:31]: for medical mixed use which we'll work with them on. [3:11:31, 3:11:44]: Uh and the number of units I think'cause they specified before. If that's fine with with the district council member we'll work to make sure that that site plan reflects what we say and uh with you. Sir, go ahead. [3:11:45, 3:12:04]: Uh are those conditions? Mr. Garden? Yes. Yes, sir. Because I want I didn't take a note of that for my motion that I'm going to make. Yes, sir. So when I do make the motion, I'm gonna refer back to you to include that. Yes, sir. Okay. Uh Mrs. Hogan, um, do you wanna speak to the setbacks before I make my motion? [3:12:06, 3:12:17]: Yes, sir. As previously discussed, we would agree to 30 foot setbacks on the townhomes as we work through the site plan for increased front yard setbacks. [3:12:18, 3:12:19]: The singer detached. [3:12:21, 3:12:26]: single family detached setbacks to remain at twenty feet for the front yard setbacks. [3:12:26, 3:12:31]: Because I know Councilwoman Gann had some issues that we wanted both to be at thirty. [3:12:32, 3:12:49]: So we did take a look at um because we did not want to misspeak for development that is around the area, but fifty foot front yard setback is for much larger lots typically. And we did take a look for similar lot sizes in Henry County and the front yard setback is twenty-five feet in the county. [3:12:50, 3:12:51]: Mm. [3:12:52, 3:12:59]: Mr R Ryan, Mr. Anderson, can you tell me what our normal single family dwelling setback is right now? [3:12:59, 3:13:13]: Depend it depends on it depends on what the zoning is. Um if it's S R R um it depends on Okay, so single So our s single f uh suburban residential is uh fifty feet. [3:13:14, 3:13:22]: Okay. So Berkeley residential's fifty feet. Yeah, but she's going um put so I don't care. Okay. [3:13:23, 3:13:35]: Go you got it, Mr. Go ahead, sir. So with a smaller lot with a smaller lot, but I've had to set back and reduce your your buildable area. And if they're proposing the build a two thousand [3:13:36, 3:13:43]: plus square foot house, it's gonna be hard to put that two thousand square foot house without a looking like a root foot box. Um [3:13:49, 3:13:55]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Mr. Gardner. Yes, sir. So on the single detach, um [3:13:55, 3:14:00]: What's your opinion to for that to remain at twenty feet to set back on the second detach? [3:14:00, 3:14:15]: Just just as a uh a thing, I think that's been typical what what's being approved on priory zones. I think it's been either twenty five or somewhere around the twenty feet on on townhomes is what we've been doing. I think the Davis Road development is the same. [3:14:15, 3:14:31]: as that the other one that's that was zoned on Valley Hill Road is twenty five feet, correct me, or th sorry or thirty. Um so we've we've kinda been between twenty, twenty five and thirty feet on the on the setbacks for townhomes. [3:14:32, 3:14:33]: Um [3:14:33, 3:14:37]: If you're doing single f like I said, if you're doing single family single family cluster. [3:14:38, 3:14:40]: Um ten feet in between. [3:14:40, 3:14:55]: And I I kinda show showed you guys some examples of what five feet in between looks like. Uh it just depends on, you know, what makes the what makes the lot is the house. I could put a trailer on an acre and it's still a trailer. I could put a nice home on it, I could reduce that lot. [3:14:56, 3:15:06]: And I can put a nice quality house on it and that's what's gonna drive the price. It's not the land. Um so if they're willing to do a product that they say they're gonna do. [3:15:07, 3:15:13]: It's up to council whether or not y'all wanna give'em it, but typically on a cluster lot, a smaller lot. [3:15:13, 3:15:13]: Yeah. [3:15:15, 3:15:20]: So Y your your setbacks are a little bit more relaxed than they are at fifty feet for residential. [3:15:21, 3:15:37]: If I may, ma'am forward, um could we look at the difference? I know originally it was at twenty. Council wanna see thirty. Um council with with twenty five be satisfactory. What's the happening with that with twenty four? [3:15:37, 3:15:39]: And staff had recommendations too. [3:15:40, 3:15:55]: Yeah, there was there was some there were come back to Mike, please, sir. That's twenty that's twenty four. They were just outstanding recommendations. Yeah, so that's about what's the recommendation. So what's your me let me twenty five thirty three? Yeah, that's about twenty four. No recommended denial. [3:16:05, 3:16:06]: Um [3:16:07, 3:16:10]: The first condition was the rezoning should not be approved. [3:16:11, 3:16:16]: Unless the comp plan amendment was adopted. But that was already approved through our um [3:16:17, 3:16:20]: Ми удати аупрессив. [3:16:20, 3:16:22]: Playing in um October. [3:16:22, 3:16:26]: No permits shall be issued by the city of Stockbridge until the developer provides [3:16:27, 3:16:32]: to the planning and zoning office a copy of the recorded plat for the recombination of the three parcels. [3:16:32, 3:16:34]: Comprising the subject property. [3:16:35, 3:16:55]: The proposed mixed residential development shall be constructed according to the site plan, which is similar to the um uh condition she made. So the site plan that will be developing consultation with the staff. The developer shall submit construction plans to the Stockbridge Public Works Department six months prior to [3:16:55, 3:16:57]: [11819.5, 11822.7]: Um the applicant shall submit a traffic impact study. [3:17:03, 3:17:08]: environmental impacts. The d developers shall submit an environmental impact study [3:17:08, 3:17:28]: Or hydrology geology studies, which provides satisfactory environmental data. The developer number seven, the developers shall submit an acceptable landscape design plan for the proposed development. Number nine, preservation of the city's lift station. The developer shall take appropriate steps to preserve and protect the city's station. [3:17:28, 3:17:31]: [11851.8, 11852.2]: All right. [3:17:32, 3:17:37]: Architectural design, the design of the single family detached units which are to be located [3:17:37, 3:17:54]: says hold off for a second, please. I was on number nine. Go ahead, sir. Uh I think the issue is the setback for the single detach um it was at twenty according to conversation Miss Gann and Mr. Alexander, they wanted at thirty. [3:17:54, 3:18:14]: I'm trying to see where is the the the the medium here and I think that's really the issue um for the conditions uh in the motion. So um I guess the question is um and I know Mr. Gardner sort of indicated his [3:18:14, 3:18:27]: his concerns um of the 20 and he said fluctuate somewhere between twenty-five and thirty. But I'm just wondering, are we good at twenty-five? [3:18:28, 3:18:28]: Feet. [3:18:32, 3:18:37]: Thirty. Did I see some thumbs up down here? No, he said that thing is thumbs up for twenty five, I think. [3:18:40, 3:18:48]: Oh, well we just trying to get some clarification right now. I'm just trying to see if council is okay with uh twenty five. [3:18:50, 3:18:53]: You wanna be able to see that? [3:18:55, 3:18:56]: I kinda like thirty. [3:18:56, 3:19:02]: Thirty. But I I I kinda think thirty would be the s safest route. [3:19:02, 3:19:07]: Okay. So Mrs. Hogan, w would you like to re reiterate [3:19:07, 3:19:11]: The objection to the thirty feet set back on the uh single detached. [3:19:11, 3:19:13]: That have blessed houses. [3:19:14, 3:19:15]: I was a little bit smaller. [3:19:16, 3:19:16]: Yep. [3:19:18, 3:19:36]: We'll agree to thirty feet front setbacks for the single family detached and thirty feet for the town home units. Okay. Um, working with staff on the site plan for approval. Okay, sound good. So Mayor Ford, not to prolong this issue if there's no other issues. If I could, Councilman. [3:19:36, 3:19:52]: Real quick. I'm sorry. Can I ask a question? Go go ahe go ahead, sir. What what the the is the through road included in there too? In my motion it will be. Okay. Thank you. Go ahead, sir. Councilman, we can't agree to the through road. Speak to that as a condition. Speak to that. [3:19:52, 3:20:12]: The through belt is just not feasible for multiple reasons. Number one, the engineering reasons that I've already stated about the connectivity through the side for vehicular traffic. Number two, it significantly would reduce and change everything as far as the buildable area for the site. Everything that we've agreed to already is. [3:20:12, 3:20:32]: reducing the buildable area of this site. So I think that working with staff to break up some of those roads, to redesign that plan as we've discussed would help as it remains, is not going to change anything for the traffic that currently comes through from drive time for the community that's existing. [3:20:32, 3:20:32]: [12034.1, 12037.2]: Uh, Mr. Garden, you have any comments on the on the through roads? [3:20:39, 3:20:45]: Yes, sir. So I know that was a requirement that we looked at at the the flip and road development. I [3:20:45, 3:20:50]: I can't see um I don't have any elevations in front of me. [3:20:50, 3:20:58]: So I could only go by the applicants until they submit plans to us that reflect that there's a thirty foot difference in elevation. [3:20:58, 3:20:59]: Um [3:20:59, 3:21:07]: But one of the things we wanted to do is to try to see if there's a way for us to least allow for connectivity as part of the trail system because this is an area. [3:21:08, 3:21:14]: that we looked at um that we were investigating with the Path Foundation as a connectivity. [3:21:14, 3:21:34]: um to bring the parts over to this portion of Stockbridge via the adjacent property of a flippin' wheel. They've donated to us the property for the park in the back section of this development. We want to tie into that and bring that as best we can over to um this piece of property and then move it through this piece of property that takes you over to [3:21:34, 3:21:39]: towards the Walmart area. So i is it your recommendation. May I may I forward? [3:21:40, 3:21:41]: Okay. [3:21:41, 3:22:01]: Um is it your recommendation that this does not need to be a part of the condition that we will independently work with the PASS Foundation to try to make this work? Yeah, we will we'll definitely want to have the connectivity for our trail system. Um so that way these folks can take advantage of being able to. [3:22:01, 3:22:05]: connect via the trailer system which should be and I know that [3:22:05, 3:22:15]: probably trying to cross Rees Creek with a with a road is gonna be expensive, but at least with the path, it shouldn't be as and more and allow for that, say, to d the [3:22:16, 3:22:31]: pedestrian connectivity between this development, Flippin' Road, and then to the existing trail system that we have on Flippin' over to Memorial Park. And then at some point when we make the connections over, it'll be able to take you over to Clark Park, Gardner Park, and then beyond from that point. [3:22:32, 3:22:42]: Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Hogan, Mr. Gardner. If council is satisfied, Mayor, I will read into the record uh the motion. Go right here, please sir. [3:22:44, 3:22:50]: I move that in rezoning case number [3:22:51, 3:22:56]: R Z two Zero Two Three Dash Zero Five [3:22:58, 3:23:01]: To rezone the three parcels [3:23:01, 3:23:05]: on Davison Parkway and walked away from [3:23:05, 3:23:12]: C three heavy commercial to PUD Plan Unit Development. [3:23:13, 3:23:22]: To allow for a mixed residential development with the following conditions. [3:23:22, 3:23:24]: To include [3:23:25, 3:23:27]: A retail component. [3:23:29, 3:23:49]: To reduce the number of units to from a hundred to a hundred and twenty-five town homes, a hundred and fifty single detached, setbacks from twenty feet to [3:23:49, 3:23:55]: [12237.0, 12240.0]: And I believe I covered all of the conditions. [3:24:01, 3:24:02]: So [3:24:05, 3:24:09]: What Madame Clerk. What do you have, Madam Clerk? [3:24:10, 3:24:13]: To retain two acres. [3:24:13, 3:24:20]: as commercial with a preference for vertical use and to allow for an it for an easement for the trail plan. [3:24:20, 3:24:28]: Okay, on the retail to retain two acres. [3:24:30, 3:24:32]: for commercial. [3:24:35, 3:24:37]: Um commercial. [3:24:37, 3:24:38]: One example. [3:24:40, 3:24:41]: I'm sorry. [3:24:42, 3:24:42]: Preference for [3:24:43, 3:24:51]: Vertical mixed use. For commercial. Retail commercial. Ver vertical mixed use, which means they can put they can put residential above above the retail. [3:24:52, 3:24:53]: Okay, um [3:24:55, 3:25:03]: Let me get the amendment to the to the motion to retain two acres for [3:25:04, 3:25:05]: Let me get the language correct. [3:25:11, 3:25:12]: Go ahead, Ms. Halliday. [3:25:15, 3:25:16]: Okay. [3:25:18, 3:25:25]: So with that added to the motion, is everything else? [3:25:28, 3:25:28]: Um [3:25:30, 3:25:36]: With rank the number three on the staff condition. And all the staff recommendations had to be added to the case. And to include staff recommendations. [3:25:36, 3:25:39]: With the exception of number three. [3:25:39, 3:25:45]: I'm I'm gonna have the city clerk to read it back. Yeah. We got a couple more. [3:25:45, 3:26:04]: You're not prepared. All right. Because it says there's one. So let me make like Mrs. Hogan and Mrs. Number three. So number three. Staff condition number staff condition number three says that it's approving the current site plan. [3:26:05, 3:26:10]: So that needs to be the save plan is being altered, correct? Yes. Yes. [3:26:12, 3:26:16]: So they're gonna we're we're gonna work to redesign this this site plan. [3:26:17, 3:26:37]: Okay, so I'm gonna ask the Madam Clerk if she's able to stand stand by one second, please if you don't mind. Stand by one second, please. Okay. Mr. Mr. Alexander, you have something to say. Yeah, we had the customary ten-foot multi-use path along the main corridor, which is Davison Parkway, which we've been considering. [3:26:37, 3:26:57]: consistent with uh for all of those standard um in addition to uh what we had the that'll be along the frontage along davison parkway which is consistent with we've been doing said that that is standard that's standard that's required we we require that now on Davison Parkway it's not a corridor is it on all on on all the all the major developments [3:26:57, 3:27:16]: You better make sure. That's not a park where corridor is a good thing. Let's ask Mrs. Hogan is she understanding of that. We're fine with that. Okay, and then something else we've been been attempting to do, Ms. Hogan. You okay with adding street light, decor the street lights along the frontage, along the path? Decor the street lights. [3:27:17, 3:27:17]: Yeah. [3:27:17, 3:27:20]: Yeah. We're fine with that. [3:27:21, 3:27:31]: All right, that's good. See? Yes, you get it. We worked it out. Mr Alexander M Madam Clerk. Making sure we got all this included. Mr. Lights, we put him in. [3:27:33, 3:27:39]: Okay. Um that was an addition or two decorative s uh lighting. [3:27:41, 3:27:48]: Okay. Okay. So now are we talking street lights or the lanterns? [3:27:50, 3:27:58]: I'm just for clarification. Decorative streetlights. Decorative street lights. Okay, Mrs. Holiday, if you would the motion re read the motion. Okay. [3:27:59, 3:28:19]: Well this is D um specified. But you'll do that. Let's stand it anyway. I'm sorry, can't we? [3:28:19, 3:28:20]: Like [3:28:23, 3:28:31]: We're ready, Council. I'm sorry. I I want to make sure you hear this motion to make sure we all in agreement. Yes, sir. Okay. Mr. Toller. Okay. [3:28:32, 3:28:40]: So Councilman Thomas has made a motion to approve RZ twin twenty three oh five to include a retail component. [3:28:40, 3:28:56]: And reducing the townhomes to 125 and the single family detached to 150 would set back to 30 feet for both town homes and single detached homes with decorative street lights and [3:28:57, 3:28:58]: Um rezoning. [3:28:59, 3:29:02]: With a PUD with site plans to include [3:29:03, 3:29:05]: Working out the site plans with the staff. [3:29:05, 3:29:07]: Retain two acres. [3:29:08, 3:29:21]: Can read my writing for commercial with the preference for vertical mixed use and to allow an easement for the trail plan, including staff recommendations removing staff recommendation number three. [3:29:22, 3:29:23]: I miss anything. [3:29:26, 3:29:45]: Sounds like oh and the ten foot multipass that councilman Alexander mentioned is standard and already included. So it does not need to be added. Okay, I've added anyway. So with that being said, uh council, I concur that this is the [3:29:46, 3:29:52]: Mayor Ford. Second. Mr. Alexander second that motion. All in favor, please indicate. [3:29:52, 3:29:53]: Yeah. [3:29:54, 3:30:08]: I have one final question. I wanted to make sure flock cameras. I know Councilwoman Gantt usually asks about that. Flock cameras, are those also included? No, you are not. Mr Anderson. [3:30:09, 3:30:15]: It's not standard. Is that something you want to consider, Councilman Thomas? [3:30:16, 3:30:26]: Isn't that a constitutional agent right now design their own things? They want protection, right? Yes. [3:30:28, 3:30:31]: Yeah, she needs to hear it. They're talking right now. She needs to hear this. [3:30:33, 3:30:35]: And also is this development is it gated? [3:30:37, 3:30:39]: No. No. [3:30:39, 3:30:40]: Sorry, gave it. [3:30:42, 3:30:42]: Okay. [3:30:47, 3:30:48]: Plat camera. [3:30:49, 3:30:51]: Hold on a second, just still talking. [3:31:05, 3:31:16]: Okay, so Mr. Tobin. My last addition to this motion. I want to make sure that you you hear this. Mrs. Barber. [3:31:18, 3:31:21]: Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, uh Al. What it's about flock cameras, go ahead. [3:31:23, 3:31:26]: Block cameras at entrance. [3:31:30, 3:31:31]: Okay. [3:31:32, 3:31:34]: I can tell again that this is the [3:31:35, 3:31:35]: Well shit. [3:31:38, 3:31:43]: Second. Ms. Alzheimer's second that again. All in favor, please indicate. [3:31:43, 3:32:03]: Unanimous decision. Thank God. All right. All right. Thank you, Ms. Hogan. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right. Announcements of upcoming meeting and events. Council meetings will be held. The city council chambers noting some board and committee meetings will continue to take place via Zoom. [3:32:03, 3:32:23]: Meetings, dates and times, if subject changed, please visit the city's website at WW City of Stockbridge.com. For meeting invitation, link, Facebook page, and contact City Hall officers at 770-389-7900 for updates. Citywide Development Authority meeting is second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall. 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[3:33:22, 3:33:25]: Six o'clock on Wednesday, June twenty sixth. [3:33:27, 3:33:28]: Okay. [3:33:30, 3:33:37]: Our city council work session meeting spe uh well, the city council work work session meeting is on [3:33:38, 3:33:44]: Wednesday at six o'clock. Now w our meeting is Wednesday, six o'clock on the end no no no. [3:33:45, 3:33:45]: No. [3:33:48, 3:33:50]: Right. So [3:33:51, 3:34:02]: City Council work session meeting is going to be Wednesday, June twenty sixth at six PM City Hall Council Chambers. Now the SPLOT six meeting I think is still being negotiated on the time frame. I I will say it's not on Tuesday. [3:34:03, 3:34:08]: We're still trying to negotiate that one. We'll have to let the public know when we get a conf confirmation on that. [3:34:09, 3:34:29]: Okay, community zoning and information meeting, Thursday, June twenty-seventh from six to seven PM, Starby City Hall Chambers, June twenty-seventh. 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[3:35:10, 3:35:20]: at Bingo Bash on Wednesday, June 12th, 10 a.m. and to uh 12 noon at Merrill Manor's Conference Center, 111 Davis Road for Raffles, Prizes. [3:35:21, 3:35:41]: Games, snacks, and fun. Bring the kids out to the annual Main Street movie night at Clark Park, Friday, June fourteenth, with free games and activities starting at six PM and features a movie starting the movie's gonna start at sundown. Train Councilman Elton Elz uh Elton L. Zenter District Five Town Hall Meeting Saturday, June twenty ninth. [3:35:41, 3:35:50]: Uh at 10 a.m. Argento at Bridges at Johtoco, 300 Argento Drive. It's got a Madonna address, but it's in stoppers, of course. [3:35:50, 3:36:04]: Join the city of Starbury's for a free annual Juneteenth. Celebration on Wednesday, June 19th from 5 to 9 p.m., the Starbury's Amphitheater. There'll be unique food and art and vendors, fun activities for the kids, DJ, and live performances. [3:36:04, 3:36:24]: Join Councilwoman Lukeia ShaGantt in partnership with Atlanta Food Truck Park for the night market at the Stockbridge Amphitheater parking lot from six PM to nine thirty PM. Special date ju June nineteenth with uh June nineteenth with Juneteenth. There will be vendors, food trucks, activities, games, music and vibes. Contact Tan Bowers. [3:36:24, 3:36:44]: At Tan and Atlanta FoodtruckPark.com for registration and additional information. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday, June 26, from 10 a.m. to 12 noon, Stockbridge City Hall. Save the date for the city of Stockbridge free, 4th of July Extravaganza. [3:36:44, 3:37:04]: Fireworks and live music. Gates open at 3 p.m. And concert uh will feature Soul Cartel, Cartel, excuse me, Soul Cartel, Algebra Bless it, Bobby V and a Michael Jackson live tribute. Take place from 5 p.m. to nine p.m. on Starbury's Amphitheater. Save the days for uh Councilwoman Yelanda Barber and [3:37:04, 3:37:24]: Once again partnering with Kix for Kids to collect shoes on Saturday, July 4th, excuse me, Saturday, July 6th and July 13th. The Stockbridge First United Methodist Church, please plan to donate all you can for a life-changing initiative. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative Center around education highlights. [3:37:24, 3:37:44]: lighting and causes and effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow on this as well. Councilman Thomas in honoring veterans and continuous salute to all year long. Please send your pictures of the veterans and their names, branch, rank, and years of service. Please contact Rosalind Rawls to schedule appointment to meet the mayor for more information on council initiatives and events [3:37:44, 3:38:04]: is six seven eight eight three three three three four eight or by way of email rawls at stopbridgega.org. The twenty twenty four Stockbridge Ampathe Concert Series July sixth, Karen Briggs, Contempo Orchestra featuring Phil Perry, Otta Adams, Regina Bell, Shelly Month. [3:38:04, 3:38:10]: [13091.8, 13095.7]: All right. That's on the sixth of July. [3:38:20, 3:38:40]: And Sunday, July 7th, end of the Fourth of July weekend, featuring Charlie Wilson and Uncle Charlie with Robin Thick. Saturday, July 13th, and Sunday the 14th, the night with Kim and Leela James, Saturday the 20th, and uh actually the 21st, 20th and 21st, Lee's Night Out featuring Joseph John. [3:38:40, 3:39:00]: Johnny Gill and Silk. Saturday, July twenty-seventh, the 70s Soul Jam featuring the satellites, the Manhattans, the legendary Blue Notes, Bloodstone, and Peaches and Herb. And right now, Saturday, uh August third, and we'll be babyface with special guests every sunshine and forecast. And this past weekend and the concert we had [3:39:00, 3:39:20]: TLC here and we recognize them for 30 years of the Crazy Sexy's A Cool album. And we had a great pre great concert concert, I was to say, and and a presentation for a prom proclamation for them as well. So it was a very well attended and excellent concert. So Starbucks A and P. [3:39:20, 3:39:40]: Ladies and gentlemen and check out the concert series. And uh it's the summertime, so be help be safe and healthy out there and be and when you're out in the heat, make sure you have you're well hydrated. And if you uh need to get your regular checkups, you know, COVID is still out there with other types of viruses, so make sure you get uh boosted and documented. [3:39:40, 3:39:53]: properly. Keep your health up. On that note, um council, we actually have a second session that we need to go into for legal, real estate and personnel. I need a motion to let's go into second session, please. [3:39:55, 3:40:04]: I move that we go into execution for real estate personnel and litigation. Is there a second? Okay Mr. Berry's second. Dan all in favor, please indicate. [3:40:06, 3:40:12]: Can you announce decision? We'll go into second section. We'll be back soon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you. [3:40:23, 3:40:23]: I know. [3:40:24, 3:40:44]: Council, I need a motion to end the second session, please. So move. Okay. So move for Mr. Alzheimer's and I need a second. Second. Second one, Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. Okay, unanimous decision. Now I need a motion to reconvene our city council meeting. Mr. Berry, so move. Second. Mr. Alzheimer's, so moved. All in favor, please. [3:40:44, 3:41:04]: Please indicate. Okay, announce decision. So repeat that. Huh? Go ahead. I got the second. Okay. Okay. Okay. From the meeting, we have an announcement to make. Go ahead, Mr. I make a motion for us to enter to an intergovernmental agreement with the ward authority. Second. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. All right. So announcement. [3:41:04, 3:41:16]: decision. All right, now I need motion to end our our meeting. So Mr. from that's Mr Okay, from Mr. Thomas and Mr. Berry. All favor please indicate. Good night. God bless you all. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

--- title: Work Session date: 2024-05-28 source: 2024-05-28_Work_Session.wav --- [0:04:19, 0:04:28]: I pray for this council meeting, the city of Stockbridge and all of its members. Give the council members wisdom and guidance as they deliberate on items before them. [0:04:29, 0:04:30]: The presenter is the [0:04:34, 0:04:35]: Every decision we break. [0:04:41, 0:04:44]: Amen. Pledge allegiance here. [0:04:44, 0:04:55]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, invisible liberty and justice for all. [0:04:56, 0:04:57]: Roll call, Madam Clerk, please. [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: Present. [0:05:05, 0:05:10]: Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilwoman Barrett. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:05:11, 0:05:15]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Tom. [0:05:15, 0:05:16]: Right. [0:05:17, 0:05:20]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:05:22, 0:05:42]: M miss Miss Barber. So I'll move that. Mr. Alzheimer's second that all in favor please indicate. Thank you very much. And uh council before you had reviewed the minutes of the draft uh draft minutes there for our council meeting on May thirteenth. Review those and we'll be able to approve those minutes at our next uh council meeting next month. On that note, uh [0:05:42, 0:05:45]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? [0:05:46, 0:05:54]: Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate that. New business council review and consideration of the TAD downtown rendering. Mr. Gardner, please. [0:06:07, 0:06:27]: Good evening, man, council. Hopefully you guys can hear me. Unfortunate. I went to Florida for a tournament and came back with a virus. So I apologize. Yes, sir. Only reason why I'm here is because I had these items on the agenda. Otherwise, I'd still be at home. Um what you hope before you [0:06:27, 0:06:47]: you uh man counsel uh some of the renderings that you know we were told that we needed to to present to henry county board of commissioners um we've been working and refining them working with the with the architectural firm to actually get the get it the renderings done and as you can see it gives you an idea [0:06:47, 0:07:07]: Of the intersection. The first rendering that you have gives you an overview of what's gonna happen to the three acres across the street from City Hall. Um, this is the intersection of Eastern Ladder Road and Highway 138, North Henry Boulevard. And as you go north, you'll be heading pointing north. [0:07:07, 0:07:16]: on on Eastern Ladder Road. So it's a multi story mixed use development. It'll be on that on that site. [0:07:17, 0:07:36]: Across from City Hall and you can see past City Hall there's a second secondary building, um roughly about four three to four stories. That's also gonna be uh residential mixed use development as well. And then further from that is a parking lot. Um if you turn to your second page, you will see the overall plan. [0:07:36, 0:07:40]: for the reuse, adaptive reuse of our city properties. [0:07:41, 0:07:42]: And [0:07:42, 0:07:43]: In the plan. [0:07:44, 0:08:04]: You can see where City Hall is. It's a crude rendering of City Hall, but it's there. Um the mixed use development by five, designated as number five, and you'll have a a ski uh a legend that's to your to your right, keynote legend, I'll give you a good idea of uh what those are. So those are your mixed use development. There's an opportunity for us to [0:08:04, 0:08:24]: Take this this rendering reflects about three parking spaces, parking decks. Right. And if we do the TAD, those will be some of the funding areas that we'd be funding for TID. So I'll run some basic numbers and I will present those to you before we go to Henry County, but I'm refining them with our FA. [0:08:24, 0:08:44]: Um, but that'll give us ideas. About close to about$30 million of of infrastructure investment that would be a part of what uh we estimate between$170 to$225 million project. And so with that, uh and then the second, the third review. [0:08:44, 0:08:47]: [528.5, 547.2]: And that's a view of you directly behind the old Ted Strickland building, the economic development building where the courtyard is, and looking back towards uh North Henry Boulevard and that area there takes into account some of the renderings from the RSVP plan. [0:09:09, 0:09:21]: But it just gives you a different scape a s uh streetscape and scale of uh mixed use development, two story mixed use development, an opportunity to bring more people downtown, but also to expand on our commercial uses. [0:09:24, 0:09:43]: And with that, I just wanted to give you ideas. This is what we're gonna be presenting to the Henry County Board of Commissioners and the School Board to get approval to move forward. Um this is what we were told from the chair lady that she wanted to see. Is that overall master plan and what we're projecting? I will say that [0:09:43, 0:10:03]: Um and this will be held as when you guys meet as the Urban Redevelopment Authority that we have a strong offer in and we were going over that plan uh last week, uh Tuesday before I left. Um Mr. Gardner, I can't hear you. I'm sorry, I d I don't want to take my mask off because I don't want to spread my virus. [0:10:03, 0:10:22]: Um I said that we do have when we meet as an urban redevelopment authority, hopefully very soon, we do have a strong proposal for the development of all of these properties um from a consultant group. And uh I'll go over that. I think I presented that proposal to you guys so we went back, refined it. [0:10:22, 0:10:25]: But um we'll be bringing that back to you as soon as they send us the new [0:10:26, 0:10:27]: New documents. [0:10:27, 0:10:31]: So there's strong interest in making this project and a few others happen. [0:10:32, 0:10:39]: Curry, obviously, I maybe I might have missed it. What what are the proposed dates to talk to bring this to the the uh commissioners and then the school board? [0:10:40, 0:10:55]: So once you guys say you guys are good with it, I'll be meeting with Sherry Matthews to get on their calendar. And once that date is announced I'll let everybody know. And she's seen a sneak peek of this and was very impressed by what we're doing. [0:10:55, 0:11:01]: So we have to go to commissioners first and then to the school board. Yes, sir. That's the route. All right. Mr. Azna, go ahead, please. [0:11:01, 0:11:06]: Yeah, so uh is what we're seeing right now is not visible to the people watching, though. [0:11:10, 0:11:30]: Yes, I think uh it's very important. This is uh some amazing renderings uh that the public really needs to see of uh things that are going on. This is so realistic because you got the city hall in there, they can see what the uh new proposed development would actually look like. [0:11:30, 0:11:50]: And then uh there's some concern about parking. You can see the parking deck, the proposed parking deck, and all of this uh laid out uh in a proposed layout and the value uh of uh all parties coming to the table because this would be some exemplary development that we have never [0:11:50, 0:12:10]: uh seen before uh in our particular area. So certainly I would like to see the public to be able to take a look at this. And I know I don't want you to go into too much detail because of how you your your your current condition, but I I just wanted to just reiterate again this is not just [0:12:10, 0:12:22]: a futuristic kind of thing. This is actually attainable and there are potential suitors at the table who may be very well uh propositioned to do that uh should we move forward. [0:12:24, 0:12:24]: Yes, sir. [0:12:26, 0:12:35]: Or thank you. M Ms Barber, go ahead please. I do um wanna suggest or perhaps you are already considering having some town halls. [0:12:36, 0:12:52]: To answer questions regarding the homeowners and businesses that are in the area. I certainly support redeveloping and revitalizing our downtown, but it's still important to me for those homeowners and business owners who are. [0:12:53, 0:12:58]: in the mediate area of this and will be affected by it positively or negatively. [0:13:00, 0:13:07]: Do you have um have you considered hosting some forums or town halls or something to share this information? [0:13:08, 0:13:19]: Oh yes. Um once we go to the county commissioners, uh unless you guys want me to do it before then, um definitely uh we could we'll open it up for public public cons [0:13:19, 0:13:30]: I said yes, we can definitely do that and open it up for public public view and comment. Um do y'all wanna do that before we go to the county or after? Before? [0:13:31, 0:13:45]: Well, I would I would th I mean I would think we'll do it after after we get approval from the county and then you go open it up to the public. That's what I would think. But well you got a council here so they can make up their mind how they want to handle that. Considering this is the district that I represent. [0:13:46, 0:13:50]: А спіккова інтерс атаки, аллерс і не з арія. [0:13:50, 0:14:03]: And before I will vote on anything, this is just a presentation today, correct? It's it's a presentation and we wanna make sure we wanna go I want you all to see what's going to be presented to the Henry County Board of Commissioners. [0:14:03, 0:14:09]: So that's why I put it in the bring this back at the next meeting or a future meeting for us to vote on it? [0:14:10, 0:14:26]: Uh no, that's why I asked for it to be reviewed and considered so we can get to the county commissioners because remember we do have folks out there who want to do this project. The key is making sure we get consent from the county because without it it's our tit is dead if we don't get consent. But [0:14:27, 0:14:45]: Um we could do some town hall meetings in the next week or two. I'll try to get some something on the schedule. That way we can get we can get some public input. Hopefully before we I guess within the next two weeks we should be able to do put some notices out and and hold a town hall meeting here or at the Murraymanders. [0:14:46, 0:15:00]: That's not that's not'cause people need to understand, yes, this is what's come potentially what's coming. Um and understand that yes, um it's going to be a change, obviously, and what that change would look like and the benefits thereof. [0:15:01, 0:15:09]: So yes, I'm I'm fine with us doing it. Uh I will get with Sherry tomorrow. Um I won't be in the office, but I'll give her a call. [0:15:09, 0:15:18]: I'll give Ms. Matthews a call, find out when we can meet, and if she give me that date, I can schedule something in between for a public town hall meeting in between. And I'll let you guys know. [0:15:19, 0:15:39]: Thank you, sir. Yes, ma'am. Mr. Hassan, go ahead, please. Yeah, I just want to reiterate this is a very high level kind of thing. It's not uh the detail a lot of the details will be filled in uh as we kind of go along with the process. And there is room for uh tinkering should there be some public input. [0:15:39, 0:15:41]: At that at that time, correct? [0:15:41, 0:16:01]: Yeah, yeah. Um so it's a it's a it's it's it's a plan that can be navigated uh contingent upon uh that public feedback when we get it. So it's not written in stone, correct? That that is correct. And you know, as much as we we we we put this in place, um you'll see some elevation differences. [0:16:01, 0:16:12]: difference when the developer brings a project in. You see it'll be some differences in there. Um, but for the most part, it's going to be a a mixed use building that's gonna be about four to five stories tall. [0:16:13, 0:16:32]: Uh absolutely and certainly uh I I think uh what we want to do is to make sure that we get as get the parties on board, which is the city which is the county and then the school board to understand. And I think what has really happened is folks need to understand that zero sum game which is [0:16:33, 0:16:53]: In the current condition or the former condition that was in, there was no gain to be had. And should all players participate in moving forward with the enhanced redevelopment, then there will be some reinvestment in the area. Citizens are always concerned about uh infrastructure. And as you said, this project would include. [0:16:53, 0:17:13]: How much$30 million or so in infrastructure enhancements, which uh the public has uh in addition to what we've already done uh in terms of uh the um stormwater and everything on the amphitheater campus. So what you're positioning right there is in the background, that's the part. [0:17:13, 0:17:33]: Parking garage, correct? Yeah. So the parking garage would be back here. Right. On the amphitheater parking lot campus, which wouldn't take up any additional space. As a matter of fact, it would tighten the parking to where that section would be it that paved section would actually already be um it would. [0:17:33, 0:17:53]: It would already be a paved section. You'd just be going vertical. Yes. So there's no stormwater impact from that because it's already impervious surface. So whether impervious surface is three stories or four stories or one story is still impervious surface. The water's gonna hit the top and drain down just like it does. So there'll be no need to change any of the detention for the water. [0:17:53, 0:18:13]: facilities in the project because we're t we're dealing with imperv existing impervious surface. We're not changing those dynamics anyway. Now last thing I'm gonna say with all due respect, Ms. Barber, we all love this area. We do. We we listen to the citizens that live here as as as as same as you do. And [0:18:13, 0:18:33]: And we value what their opinions are and try to um bring them what they want. We've been doing that now, I know myself for eight years, Councilman Thomas probably about twelve, mayor's about twelve. So certainly I don't wanna make it seem like we uh do not want to take into consideration what the citizens are doing because this process is being [0:18:32, 0:18:41]: Ongoing now for years. Before I arrived in at probably after I leave, this process has been going on with many of [0:18:41, 0:19:00]: uh involvement in the public with the ARC has had a lot of put input in how we got to this point and certainly we want to make sure that they're at the table uh as we go forward. But certainly we all share your sentiments that we want to make sure that we build the best downtown uh that is possible. [0:19:00, 0:19:14]: for everybody in Stockbridge because I want my district five residents to come down here and enjoy this and these residents voted for many of us and during citywide elections and trusted us with the care of the downtown area. [0:19:15, 0:19:16]: You're going, Ms. Barber. [0:19:17, 0:19:29]: Um, thank you. I appreciate that. And I hope that you all will keep the residents in the forefront of your minds while you're making decisions um in this particular area. [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: А вас електричто репрезентні інтерсфатю. [0:19:33, 0:19:35]: Not just my interest. [0:19:35, 0:19:39]: Of course, I support revitalizing the downtown area. [0:19:40, 0:19:42]: But I also know that there is an impact. [0:19:43, 0:19:45]: To the stakeholders in the area. [0:19:45, 0:19:46]: Have to consider that. [0:19:47, 0:19:49]: I have the unique responsibility. [0:19:49, 0:19:56]: Of caring for the interests, the needs, the desires of those who are farthest east and farthest north. [0:19:56, 0:19:58]: And everything in between. [0:19:59, 0:20:06]: Absolutely. I am going to vote their interests, not mine. Now I do have a question though, Mr. Gardner. [0:20:07, 0:20:11]: Some of these areas are shaded yellow. Mm-hmm. Some of them are [0:20:11, 0:20:12]: There are three. [0:20:13, 0:20:16]: different shades of yellow. So I need to understand um [0:20:17, 0:20:21]: Bryant street and some of the other side streets here. [0:20:21, 0:20:38]: All right, so y can you see you can see the cursor? Yes, sir. Alright, so that's Lee Street. Mm-hmm. That's North Lee Street. Um, that's Chris Away right there. As it comes through the amphitheater and connects to East Atlanta Road. [0:20:40, 0:20:50]: That's North Henry Boulevard. That's Norfolk Southerns Railroad right there. That is Lee Street. This is Brooke. [0:20:51, 0:21:11]: Oh Love, Love Street. Love. Love Street. I'm sorry. Love Street here. Right. This is Burke. This is MLK in here. And w what this is this is showing you guys is expanding some of the parking, which is another project that's coming up. But this is Burke Street. That's MLK. And we [0:21:11, 0:21:31]: Where you see the number renderings is where new buildings will be, where you see number renderings. So the numbers denote new buildings being added over time because s some of this is still in pup in private hands. So this is not something that's gonna happen overnight, but some of it where we own property can happen fairly quickly. [0:21:31, 0:21:51]: Um three acres, the already existing site for um the amphitheater. Um behind us, there's a potential for a parking deck there. Um they're making those improvements. But those the number buildings are the buildings that'll be brand new to the area. So in essence, rather than having a downtown of [0:21:51, 0:21:56]: Roughly twelve buildings will have a complete somewhat downtown. [0:21:57, 0:22:00]: So what impact though to Bryant Street? [0:22:01, 0:22:21]: I see some of the areas are shaded in yellow. So what does that mean? So th yeah, this is a bad photo, unfortunate. When you photo when you copy a copy, that's what happens. Um so Bryant Street is right here. Mm-hmm. That's Bryant. So there's nothing happening. Those are the existing houses on Bryant. [0:22:22, 0:22:26]: But they're shaded. Why d yes, they're denoted because their structures [0:22:27, 0:22:36]: So all structures have a color. The more intense yellow is what you see with a number are new. Everything else is existing. Gotcha. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. [0:22:37, 0:22:41]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Thank you, Mr. Garner. Um [0:22:43, 0:23:01]: The only concern I really have is toward the council. I just wanna make sure that we are in agreement, that we do understand, even when I look at the legend and strategically putting [0:23:01, 0:23:04]: This here, putting this there, putting this here. [0:23:04, 0:23:06]: I just wanna make sure [0:23:06, 0:23:10]: That we're all in agreement and we understand strategically. [0:23:11, 0:23:14]: Um, where everything sort of like a puzzle, if you will. [0:23:15, 0:23:20]: where everything is gonna be placed and we're okay with that because once you [0:23:20, 0:23:24]: put the shovel in the ground and the bulldozers are running. [0:23:24, 0:23:33]: It's it's sort of too late. And I and I say that from a a reference of experience, and I won't get too deep into the the the construction. [0:23:33, 0:23:34]: Of the amphitheater. [0:23:34, 0:23:38]: But in hindsight, and we didn't know, but in hindsight [0:23:39, 0:23:41]: I think we probably could have. [0:23:42, 0:24:02]: put something somewhere else or something somewhere else and those kind of thing. So I just want to make sure uh from the council standpoint that we all are in agreement with the legend and where everything is located uh strategically, traffic control with parking decks and other parks. [0:24:02, 0:24:03]: Yeah. [0:24:03, 0:24:06]: Uh the residential development is that the [0:24:06, 0:24:26]: place where it needs to go, those kind of thing. And I think then once we as a council say, okay, we okay, then I think then we go to the next step. And I know the purpose tonight. And I think this is the first time we really sort of going into this, and which is okay. But I just wanna make sure we as a council are in agreement [0:24:26, 0:24:46]: with how we how it's laid out and we think this is a great legend, this is a great plan. And then we sort of go forward. So and I've heard from some council members. And I know there are some some questions, but that just sort of where I am. I think we're all in favor of developing our downtown. And for me and my perspective. [0:24:46, 0:25:00]: even though we have district, but you know, I represent everybody. And because when we vote, so it's not one council person does not dictate what happens. [0:25:00, 0:25:07]: It takes all of us to vote. So I that's my perspective. I look at everything. It doesn't matter what district it's in. [0:25:07, 0:25:27]: uh we all are accountable to this whole set of stock bridge. And we have to just make sure that whatever we do in the City of Stockbridge, it is pleasing to everybody and we all feel comfortable in raising our hand and voting in favor or against something. And I understand, you know, the whole district concept, but [0:25:27, 0:25:34]: Um, citizens hold all of us accountable for everything that we do. And that's that's how I look at it. I just want to make sure. [0:25:35, 0:25:48]: 'Cause this is a very, very important step we're getting ready to take. And you talking about changing uh a new look for our downtown, this is gonna be it here. Now I know sometimes you don't always get it right. [0:25:49, 0:26:00]: But as closest to right that we can get it, this is sort of where I am. So I just wanna make sure that we understand this layout. We all are in agreement with this layout. [0:26:00, 0:26:01]: Or [0:26:01, 0:26:15]: Is there something else that we make it shift here, a shift there? So I just want to make sure that we're okay with that and we understand the legend and where everything is strategically placed right now. Are we okay with this legend? [0:26:16, 0:26:26]: And so I'm studying this now and I don't know what we need to do today. I don't know, I'm not sure what you're asking us to do today. [0:26:27, 0:26:36]: Um, but I wanna get a uh better understanding and I'm looking and I'm reading and I'm studying, but I don't know what other counsel, so I don't know. So what are you asking us to do today? [0:26:37, 0:26:38]: This was w [0:26:38, 0:26:58]: Uh Councilmember uh Thomas, yes. This was uh for us to present kind of what we've been working at as tied of the tad. Um uh if you have some questions or concerns, obviously you let me know what those are uh and we move'em. Uh understanding that everything that you see that's numberized except [0:26:58, 0:27:18]: For a few parcels, uh already vacant tracts of land. And based on the developers' urban, and they did this, they did this in consideration of looking at development, development types, right? So as we look to shift certain things around, yes, there's some things we can shift around. [0:27:18, 0:27:32]: Um but uh I would say that yes. This is open for discussion. If you you have any questions, please just let me know what they are. I'll answer them as best I can. If I can't I'll get our consultants to look at it as well. [0:27:32, 0:27:34]: But as I'm right now [0:27:34, 0:27:54]: But yeah, what you this is the plan. This this is the A this is the A plan right here. This this is this is what we're taking. This is what we're taking to the party. Okay. Yes, sir. Good. Okay. Go ahead, sir. I just want to say that there's an understanding that just because this is the initial plan, it it's bound to be [0:27:54, 0:28:04]: change. Most most times when there's a plan like this, there is no way that we can say today that we m marked off every building and every example and every plot on the legend and say [0:28:05, 0:28:14]: As of today, this is what it's going to be two, three, four, five years from now. This is just a rough draft. Is that correct? Is that the best way to describe it? [0:28:15, 0:28:35]: Yes, sir. This is your this is your draft almost final, right? We we understand that the architecture might be a little different, but in terms of making the development work in terms of scale, it's gonna have to be X amount of stories. So that's that's where that's where the heightened the building. [0:28:35, 0:28:55]: Come in to make sure that from a from the perspective of a developer, you know, they can actually do this project and make money. Because that's obviously what it's about. They're not in business to give away charity, but at the same time, an opportunity to grow. And all of this, when we get down to it, is going to be controlled through a development agreement. [0:28:54, 0:29:11]: agreement with that developer to make sure that hey yes we are getting what we say we're getting and any of the infrastructure improvements that needs to come will come and how that will come based on that development agreement. So yeah, we're we're still a mile away from the from the finish line. [0:29:13, 0:29:16]: Mr. Azan, go ahead. [0:29:17, 0:29:37]: What I wanted to say is, I think we need to understand something, and I certainly understand Mayor Pro Timberry, you're right on point, these programs more. But let's understand this council voted on LCI Plan B, which is what the Atlanta Regional Commission came up with, the general idea. [0:29:37, 0:29:57]: That's kind of the scale at where we are where we are placing these buildings with the uh multifamily over here and with the amphitheater being where it is. That's LCI plan B that was approved by the Atlanta Regional Commission. You know, when we reached out to them as a city to ask them to do the the livable [0:29:57, 0:30:17]: Centers initiative, and that's how we qualify for some type of grants and that type of thing that we do for our short-term work program and our capital program. So when we go to them and we ask for assistance, like we did with the trail plan downtown and other assistance that we would be able to get. [0:30:17, 0:30:37]: They look to see whether or not we're adhering to some of their recommendations, not all of them, but certainly we've been following that framework in order to do that. Because if you look at that picture in Miss Holliday's office that I often refer to, you will see that this was a mixed common right over there. [0:30:37, 0:30:57]: There across the street, uh, in that area, right here by City Hall. So that concept uh was uh was is a beautiful rendition. I know many of y'all have seen that when you go into our office, and that kind of captures this. That was a concept, whereas this is a concept too. So understanding that there is a something that the plan is. [0:30:57, 0:31:03]: grounded in for us to what what was determined with a lot of study went into it. [0:31:04, 0:31:04]: Yeah. [0:31:05, 0:31:21]: Okay. Mr. Uh Mr. Thomas, please. Right. Um Mr. Garden, is it appropriate for me to ask you to speak in detail? At this point, is it appropriate? Uh for you to speak in detail. Um [0:31:22, 0:31:26]: about in legend five, six [0:31:28, 0:31:29]: And eight. [0:31:30, 0:31:40]: um the thought that went behind that and could you just sort of speak to to some of that. I mean, uh, if it's not appropriate to speak today [0:31:40, 0:32:00]: I'm I'm okay if you take So five six? Right, five, six and eight. So five, six and eight is a multi story, not as tall as number five itself, but it's gonna be somewhere around three, maybe three to four stories because right there the grade elevation actually from the street is much lower. [0:32:00, 0:32:09]: Mm-hmm. Um so you're looking at potential for retail as well as some residential uses, and that's where you see the amenity, the pool. [0:32:09, 0:32:13]: It's associated with a with a structure of that size. Yes. [0:32:15, 0:32:22]: So that's what that building is. That's also a mixed use building as well. It will house some retail uses as well as residential above. [0:32:24, 0:32:44]: Well, w one of my concerns and I'm pretty sure the study has been done um with the um vibration from the trains, uh the blasting at the quarry,'cause I know where we sit here and where I live when [0:32:44, 0:32:50]: when the week those blastings. I mean, it rattles, it [0:32:50, 0:33:10]: Works with your foundation. Uh is any of that has any of that been considered in this construction of anything in this particular area? So so no. Uh as of right now, you know, we're not in the development review stage of this project. So that'll have [0:33:10, 0:33:13]: Obviously once we consummate the deal with the developer. [0:33:14, 0:33:34]: They're going to do their environmental assessment on the property. So they'll take into account either phase one or phase phase one or phase two environmental. They'll talk about those issues that are out there. Um and obviously making sure that like this building, yes, you're in an area where there's blasting, but they you can build a building to withstand [0:33:33, 0:33:53]: That obviously, because we do build buildings to extend to withstand uh earthquakes to a certain degree. So obviously, um if you looked at on the Richter scale, I would assume that one of our blasts is probably a one or point five for the most part, even though we feel them. But the folks in California that have [0:33:53, 0:34:13]: Has a two or three knows that it's more of this rather than that. Right? Um the worst one I think I felt was last week. I was actually over it it um at the tear stricklin and yeah, I felt that one real clear. And and that's obviously because we have the rock that sits on [0:34:13, 0:34:29]: on this side of um it's funny that you can live on the other side of of Eagles Landing and forty two and you don't feel it. Same distance away, but you don't feel it. Um so there's a difference between what's what this area's made of versus [0:34:29, 0:34:37]: Just over the ridge what that area is made of in terms of rock versus And I and I and I would thinking in terms of um especially the the pool. [0:34:37, 0:34:57]: Yeah. Uh for us'cause if a poo gonna crack in it. So yeah, so they they're they're obviously w once you once we get everything down pack and there's a there's a deal on the table, those guys that developer's gonna do their due diligence through their environmental, through landscape, and they will obviously know that they're blasting times and when they structure those. [0:34:57, 0:35:05]: buildings what they have to be done in order for them to do what this does. You feel the vibration, but right. Yeah. Thanks, sir. Yes sir. [0:35:06, 0:35:13]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. Mr. Gardner. Yes, ma'am. So what's the difference between um four? [0:35:13, 0:35:16]: And ten. I know TN is a parking deck. [0:35:17, 0:35:26]: So the ledger that you have is kind of cut off on the side. So I can't see the full Yeah. So four, ten, and seven are parking decks. [0:35:30, 0:35:31]: The parking decks. [0:35:32, 0:35:33]: But what's the difference? [0:35:33, 0:35:34]: The difference is [0:35:37, 0:35:57]: Size. So number ten will be a little bigger than number seven and number four. But for the amount of retail that you're gonna put and the amount of residence you're gonna put, you wanna have uh parking necessary to accommodate those the residential and retail components. Okay. Would you mind expanding your [0:35:57, 0:36:01]: keynote ledger just so I can read those descriptions. [0:36:08, 0:36:10]: It's still kind of cut off. [0:36:11, 0:36:12]: Whereas numbered [0:36:12, 0:36:13]: Yes. [0:36:16, 0:36:19]: So ten is a parking deck. Um [0:36:19, 0:36:20]: With [0:36:21, 0:36:23]: What is the R E team? [0:36:24, 0:36:26]: I'm sorry. Uh [0:36:28, 0:36:40]: I won't be able to look at it because I don't I have the same copy you have that when they copied it it didn't come all the way through. But it it is a parking deck. Um and that's gonna be [0:36:40, 0:36:54]: existing parking. So it's it's taking over. So tan will be replacing some of the parking that's already there. The only difference is you're going vertical um with that parking to give you ex excess parking. [0:36:55, 0:36:57]: So rather than spreading this, you're going this way. [0:36:58, 0:37:06]: So that that up should be able to accommodate obviously what's existing, but given additional parking spaces to deal with the retail and residential area. [0:37:08, 0:37:17]: And then number seven is the same. Um, it's that parking associated with the retail and the residential use for for number five. [0:37:20, 0:37:28]: Now looking at this really quick, um, some of these areas, are those properties all owned by the city? [0:37:29, 0:37:35]: As I mentioned, there are a few that are not for the most part. Um one is in private ownership. [0:37:36, 0:37:46]: Um one here is in private ownership and then right here is private ownership. Everything else, uh these are all private. Those are not impacted, those existing. [0:37:46, 0:37:57]: But when you talk about future development, obviously, you see the the more intense uh yellow reflects uh proposed structures versus the existing structures. [0:37:59, 0:38:01]: Thank you, sir. You're welcome, ma'am. [0:38:02, 0:38:16]: Any other questions? It it I would my assumption is a development agreement would be similar to the development agreement that was agreed to and signed upon, like the British of Jotaco's would put this development agreement will probably consist of once it's down comes down to nuts and bolts there. [0:38:16, 0:38:36]: The development agreement that that you mentioned earlier would be similar to what we signed, agreed to assign for the Bridges of Jodico. That type of development agreement. It'll be an agreement that specifies what the developers shall do, what the city shall do, and how those those TAD funds will be expended for what specific uses. Okay. So for us it's gonna be [0:38:36, 0:38:40]: So if you look at those parking structures, [0:38:40, 0:38:47]: If you do the math, one parking space is about one structured parking space is about fi twenty five thousand. [0:38:47, 0:39:07]: So if you're looking at 300, that's roughly seven point something million dollars. Um so if you're doing three of them, do the math, that's twenty-one, almost twenty-one million dollars um for parking. And then you obviously you're gonna have to do some restructuring with some water lines, some sewer lines, making sure some new road uh roadway improvements as you. [0:39:07, 0:39:16]: You do the development. So we factored about seven and a half million for that. So roughly about 30 million of investment. But the overall project. [0:39:17, 0:39:22]: And when we did the math we did not include anything over at Burke or [0:39:22, 0:39:42]: Um MLK, so most of it would be on the three-acre side here and the existing areas that we own here as part of the amphitheater. Uh the developer I met with said I was actually using a more conservative 150. He said nope. This is gonna be in the area of 225. So I helped my conservative. [0:39:42, 0:40:02]: Conservative estimate to about 175 to 225 is what this project all in will be once constructed. Um to do your easy calculation on that, you would say 40% of$175 million to the math when that comes out. That's what's taxable value. [0:40:02, 0:40:05]: Yeah. [0:40:05, 0:40:20]: Then you times that number by the city, county, school board, millage, and that's the overall of what this project would pay, um, be in the area of roughly two point seven to two point nine million. [0:40:21, 0:40:41]: Then you can go to the bond market and you can use those funds to borrow for the parking structures. So that takes that off. But the development is paying its first year for the improvements. So that's how the TAD works. Okay. And realize that your house that you bid that you might have bought for$200,000. [0:40:41, 0:40:45]: two thousand today, tomorrow is gonna probably be worth a little bit more. [0:40:45, 0:40:50]: So that additional money's above that is where we negotiate with the school board. [0:40:50, 0:40:59]: And the county commissioners that they can get that money, we can s give them that money. Anything in excess thereof, we give back to them. [0:41:00, 0:41:03]: So right now recognize that none of this property is paying them [0:41:04, 0:41:08]: Zero property tax because it's owned by the city for the most part. So they're not getting anything. [0:41:09, 0:41:12]: So in essence to build this and to get the increment [0:41:13, 0:41:17]: Gives us an opportunity to build something, the other part that they don't get is sales tax. [0:41:17, 0:41:25]: So for all the transactions that happen as part of the retail use of this, right now that vacant track of property over there is paying the city and the county. [0:41:25, 0:41:27]: And the school board zero sales tax. [0:41:28, 0:41:29]: But if you build it [0:41:29, 0:41:44]: That sales tax gets splits up sixty-six to the county and to us and the different cities cause we all share in the sales tax revenues. Right? And that one penny sales tax goes for the schools, school board tax goes to the school board. [0:41:45, 0:41:49]: So everybody wins. Right now, the land that you see around you is paying [0:41:50, 0:41:53]: The city, the county, the school board, nothing zero dollars. [0:41:54, 0:42:00]: Absolutely nothing. And if you factor in for me who've been here too almost twenty five years. [0:42:01, 0:42:08]: It's the same downtown it's the same downtown from twenty five years ago that you see here today. So the likelihood that twenty five years from now anything will change? [0:42:09, 0:42:13]: is high unless we do something different. And that's my discussion with the school board. [0:42:14, 0:42:16]: Right? Einstein theory of insanity. [0:42:16, 0:42:19]: Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. [0:42:20, 0:42:23]: Right, we dare to do something different and expect a different outcome. [0:42:25, 0:42:45]: There no other questions and uh on that note. Thank you for the pres well wait a minute. I'm sorry, you don't need a vote on this tonight now, do you? No sir. I'm gonna wait to hear any com other comments you guys have and then um talk to me sh talk to my sherry Matthews. Okay. Um if so if you have any other questions, please just shoot me. Um I will answer those and I'm gonna get a clearer picture because it is actually [0:42:45, 0:43:05]: Clara. It's just photocopy of a photocopy. Does this. Um, I will email those over to you guys. Um and uh talk to Sherry, get a date. Once she gives me the date, uh, I will then share that with the council because obviously we all want to be there to support our downtown. Right. Right? So when we go, if we can't [0:43:05, 0:43:25]: Can please come to that meeting because it's important. And then when you get a date, otherwise you know backtrack and try to forget a some type of town hall or depending on that date, I'm gonna try to squeeze in a town hall meeting and have uh I'll print some of this stuff out so we'll have more renderings. Okay. For folks to be able to see. Yes. All right, thank you. On that note, no other questions, we'll move on. All right, thank you, sir. Uh [0:43:25, 0:43:36]: Uh let's see here. Council consideration to approve a resolution to increase the number of members on the citywide development authority from seven members to nine members. Mr. Washington, please. [0:43:43, 0:43:45]: Come to the mic could you come to mic please, sir? [0:43:58, 0:44:10]: Yes, as this would be to the Citywide Development Authority, we would change the we would change the legislation documents to be an ordinance for it to increase from seven to nine members, if that be the will of the council. [0:44:13, 0:44:13]: Okay. [0:44:14, 0:44:20]: So you said that that's an ordinance that we have to uh We would we would do an ordinance setting the number from seven to nine, yes. Okay. [0:44:22, 0:44:42]: Alrighty. Yes, sir. Go right ahead. You got a question, sir. Yeah, I I did receive and I think the council did receive a notice from uh the citywide development authority chair uh in asking for the number to be increased and and basically in agreement with that. So that being said, I think we should go. [0:44:41, 0:44:45]: Go ahead and move forward with it. [0:44:45, 0:44:46]: I do. So [0:44:49, 0:44:50]: What was the purpose given? [0:44:51, 0:44:53]: to increasing the number of board members. [0:44:55, 0:45:01]: Not aware. I was just asked to draft if that be you all's will from seven to nine. [0:45:01, 0:45:21]: Yeah. Okay, if you want to explain that I think I understand it. The reason where we had some exemplary candidates and that di we did not want to exclude because we got some people really that would add something to the board uh on both sides, and that was the what it was expressed to me from uh the the [0:45:21, 0:45:23]: board and Ms. Gantt. [0:45:25, 0:45:28]: Okay, any any other you good? Gentlemen on the side, any other questions, you good? [0:45:29, 0:45:31]: All right, so uh uh to do that I just need a motion. [0:45:32, 0:45:43]: Go ahead. I got one more quick, I'm sorry. So will this be the board with the largest amount of members? [0:45:45, 0:45:45]: I'm not sure. [0:45:46, 0:45:58]: I don't know, nine members, uh that's something probably asked as a clerk, yeah. Uh I'll respond to that uh mayor. No, the youth council advisory committee has twelve members. Okay, there you go. [0:45:58, 0:46:08]: Thank you. All right. I need a motion, ladies and gentlemen. So moved. Okay, is there a second? Second. Okay, Mr. Barrett, second that all in favor please indicate. She now she says, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. [0:46:10, 0:46:14]: Uh okay. Council consideration approved the contract with the lease [0:46:14, 0:46:20]: If I saw how we pronounce it, companies incorporated for one million nine hundred sixty dollars and three hundred and seventy [0:46:21, 0:46:32]: $1,960,$371.90. Request for qualification number$2023 0012 Civic Wayfinding Project. [0:46:34, 0:46:36]: Mr. Gardner, please. [0:46:36, 0:46:46]: Good night again, man council. Um as you know that we're here to present the uh the winner, the winning bid for the uh [0:46:46, 0:46:50]: Were you finding sign a program that that we approved uh [0:46:50, 0:46:51]: A year or two ago. [0:46:51, 0:46:56]: Uh we're now at that point where we've gone through we've hired Sky Design. Sky Design is [0:46:57, 0:46:59]: Laid out some wonderful designs for us. [0:47:00, 0:47:05]: Um that I think everybody's approved and now we're getting to the point where we need to have a fabricator. [0:47:06, 0:47:26]: Correct, Dominic, a fabricator that's gonna come on and and fabricate the signs and put the signs out for us. Um so that process, we went through the RFP process and D nice, I think is what it's called, the uh winner of the bid. Um and we work with them to get the bid down to what we see is uh one point nine. [0:47:26, 0:47:46]: million. We we are looking at programming this in phases. So we've budgeted as part of our APA funds are at roughly a hundred five hundred and seventy three thousand plus dollars um to get the project started. That'll get us through phase one and phase two, I think it is. [0:47:48, 0:48:08]: And in the meantime, whilst we're doing phase one and phase two, um we'll be working with Sky Design to get uh phase three permitted because as you know, some of this requires us to have way s wayfinding signs at uh interstate exits. So we need to get the we need to get GDOT approval on those. So they'll be working. [0:48:08, 0:48:11]: So everything will happen in phases, but those phases will be going. [0:48:12, 0:48:14]: concur to some degree with each other on the permitting side of it. [0:48:15, 0:48:35]: Um but the development side, phase one, phase two, and as it relates to completing the project, um obviously I I'll talk to you guys a little bit about this at our next meeting, but um we we'll probably have to use some of our SPLUS funds in the upcoming SPLUS, which uh numbers that we use originally was considered. [0:48:35, 0:48:55]: So I got some new numbers from Tim um at Locust Grove that reflects us getting a higher percentage. So we'll be able to do additional projects. So this would hopefully be one of those that we could continue to make sure we get the wayfinding sign program from start to finish. But Opera will start it and hopefully a year and a half from now. [0:48:55, 0:48:58]: Uh we can continue it with Splash Dollars. [0:48:58, 0:49:18]: You know, when when we first started this, obviously the um sixty seven hundred folks weren't annexed into the city at this point. So my assumption is and maybe I might have missed it, that now with going down this road, we've taken into account those those additional residents that we've now had for roughly a year and a half on where these signs would go on those thoroughfares to make sure that we [0:49:18, 0:49:35]: we we make sure we accomplish uh accomplishing those right amount of folks that are in the city and we have we don't cut them short in this aspect So yeah so the the s the wayfinding sign is in keeping with our news with our new districts, with our new city boundaries. Okay. Not the old one. [0:49:36, 0:49:51]: All right. And Dominic with Sky Design is here to kind of go through presentation. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead please. We don't have any pictures of this up. Uh surely we have some and again we could put that on the uh for folks to see it's exciting. [0:49:59, 0:50:19]: Thank you, Councilmember, for your time today. To Mr. Gardner's point, yes, we've completed the bid process and you've tentatively awarded the job to Denise Companies. They're one of uh the fabricators that we've partnered with multiple times on many different projects, including civic wayfinding projects. We're at a point now, and again to Mr. Gardner's point, we've [0:50:19, 0:50:34]: worked on this for just of just over a year at this point. We have a full program going uh to give you an idea of some of the sign types you can see here. Everything from massive gateway signs, which would welcome guests into the city of Stockbridge, down to more um [0:50:36, 0:50:45]: More of the minutiae of individual vehicular wayfinding signs, getting people throughout the city, directing them to city hall, some of your amenities, etc. Um [0:50:45, 0:50:51]: Dennis has been tentatively awarded the job. So the purpose that I am here today is to get your approval on [0:50:52, 0:51:12]: Their budgetary numbers. When they first submitted their bid, they were, and I'm gonna just fast forward real quick to this page, they were about$2.3 million. And we had been asked and tasked to find any sort of cost savings. So you see VE option one and two, essentially what we've done is taken some designs and changed how they would function. [0:51:12, 0:51:32]: Function to find cost savings. It's anything from going with real brick to a faux brick, or if we want to find additional costs, we can just do painted aluminum, changing how your logos might look. Where when we initially came into this, we had very beefy dimensional logos. We've simplified the process. It's why we usually partner. [0:51:32, 0:51:38]: With vendors like this, they can come in and say, your designs are great, but here's a better way to do it, and here's where you can find cost savings. [0:51:38, 0:51:48]: So we've broken this down into three categories, just showing you the original proposal, VE option one, and VE option two. [0:51:49, 0:51:59]: I'll just quickly go through the different options of VE. So here you see the bulk of your sign types. There are some smaller things missing like street signs, but [0:52:00, 0:52:20]: Up here is your primary gateway, secondary gateways, vehicular directional, and these two, while looking identical, are slightly different in appearance for parks versus buildings. Pedestrian kiosks, which would be maps from a pedestrian viewpoint, getting them throughout the streets to different eateries, regions. [0:52:20, 0:52:21]: Detail, etc. [0:52:22, 0:52:24]: Um some of the things we've looked at [0:52:24, 0:52:43]: A lot of our designs initially had a recessed accent, any of your green stripes. We've since looked at that where VE option one is a buildup of material rather than an elimination of material. VE option two simplifies it further with them just being masked and painted. [0:52:43, 0:53:03]: Other things we've looked at, as I just touched on, was going from real brick to faux brick. So what you see in this photo where my cursor is, is in fact foam that's carved and painted to look just like brick. And it's um Danais in particular is a really skilled at this. So additional way of finding that cost savings. If we wanted to reduce things further, [0:53:03, 0:53:10]: we can just do aluminum that's painted and that is an example here where this is just fabricated aluminum painted a certain color. [0:53:11, 0:53:20]: Um one of the biggest cost savings we found is just how we were creating your vehicular directional, um, just simplifying the process. So [0:53:21, 0:53:40]: All that to be said is we're looking to hit that budgetary number that you all feel comfortable with. I know with a lot of these things and just looking at what was being presented today, there's development going on. So we are by no means confined to what has been programmed and the messaging. Obviously you want this to function for the city as it grows. [0:53:40, 0:53:41]: So [0:53:41, 0:53:52]: The goal here today is just get a denice contracted, because then we can really get into the meat and bones of things, figuring out how we're gonna mount these things, how we're gonna fabricate them, and [0:53:53, 0:54:13]: we can reduce or add to the sign family as we go on as the city grows. So this is not gonna be a short process. I'm just gonna fast forward to the timeline to give you an understanding of Get let me let me stop you for a second. Oh sure. What's the most durable uh I I would assume I know the answer, but I'm gonna ask you, what's the most durable product to use for this? [0:54:13, 0:54:22]: Aluminum, absolutely. Any kind of aluminum aluminum, yeah. So just because these are all gonna be outside. They're gonna be dealing with any c weathering and you want also want this to be [0:54:24, 0:54:29]: You don't want to invest in this a year or two down the road. You want this to be ten plus years, so [0:54:29, 0:54:31]: Fabricated aluminum. [0:54:31, 0:54:32]: That's painted. [0:54:33, 0:54:37]: Coded in um usually the paint that we use is automotive grade, so it's [0:54:37, 0:54:40]: It's gonna give you the longevity you need. [0:54:40, 0:54:43]: Any kind of plastics, they're gonna yellow in the sun. [0:54:44, 0:54:47]: Extreme heats can actually cause degradation and warping. [0:54:48, 0:55:03]: metal's what's gonna hold up the strongest. Because I thought I thought the brick would be more durable, but you're you're you're So ah, for the bases, so this brick is i what we've initially proposed, and this is also going into G DOT regulations, is [0:55:04, 0:55:20]: The base of these, especially if they're off of the thoroughfare, couldn't be solid concrete brick bases. They want them to have some level of breakaway ability in case of a collision. If it was to be solid brick with CMU cores. [0:55:20, 0:55:24]: That's gonna cause some heavy damage to someone that c crashes into them. So that [0:55:25, 0:55:28]: What would if we were to go with a brick, it would be a brick veneer. [0:55:28, 0:55:33]: atta attached to an aluminum body and in within that aluminum body is some level of [0:55:34, 0:55:39]: breakaway where if it's a collision that happens, the bolts break away and it it tips over so it's not just [0:55:40, 0:55:41]: A hard hit. [0:55:41, 0:55:47]: And that's G dot regulations across the board. No matter any civic project we do, we have to have that regulation or that requirement. [0:55:48, 0:55:51]: It's so it's really more of from a decorative aesthetic. [0:55:51, 0:55:59]: Um, do you want it to be true brick? Do you want it to be faux brick? Where you can see here in this photo where my cursor is. [0:56:00, 0:56:01]: We can make it look like real brick. [0:56:02, 0:56:04]: Especially as you're driving by. [0:56:04, 0:56:11]: Uh for some of these heavy gateway signs, these are gonna be in areas where no one's really gonna be able to walk right up to them. [0:56:11, 0:56:31]: So can I interject for this? Let me just say this. Sell me on quantity on quality, not not the cheapest price. So no I I want to the the overall goal here, we like what we saw, which is we liked it with the what we were presented was the real brick. Now if you can make the [0:56:31, 0:56:51]: Faux brick, but I certainly wouldn't want to just go the cheap route and paint something aluminum, and that's not what we're trying to do. We're trying to send out that symbol of quality and excellence, and that's what brick represents. I certainly understand that it wouldn't be solid brick. Yeah. Because we have regulation against building a brick. [0:56:51, 0:57:11]: Brick mailbox along a roadway as well. But certainly, I certainly, speaking for myself, would certainly want to see the appearance of brick. And the reasoning that we talked about selecting that is that that brick base matched City Hall. It kind of spread it that same look that we've had here in the general downtown. [0:57:11, 0:57:26]: downtown area throughout the city. So safety certainly in terms of it being collapsible, but the appearance uh of speaking for me, I would want to see uh the brick appearance, uh certainly not not just the painted aluminum. [0:57:27, 0:57:46]: See break appearance also if the amphitheater, the same stuff with the amphitheater, that's how the amphitheater looks like City Hall. We wanted that the same concept. Uh gentlemen, you got some you good down here? Good uh down Miss Barber, you got any questions right now? I do. Um I don't necessarily object to the break, but [0:57:47, 0:57:53]: All these signs won't be positioned near the amphitheater. So I'm not [0:57:54, 0:58:04]: opposed to aluminum either. My concern is maintenance and warranty of these. Um would that be under the contract for [0:58:04, 0:58:24]: This particular vendor, Denise? Okay Denise would be the holder of that warranty. I apologize that I don't know off the top of my head the length of their warranty. Um, but with any job I've ever worked on them there is some level of warranty involved and they have always stood by their quality. So if there's any kind of issues that come up within the first couple of years they're [0:58:25, 0:58:29]: Вей, ви воді не верта ніво. [0:58:30, 0:58:33]: uh Stockbridge or any other uh of our clients with [0:58:34, 0:58:45]: a vendor without integrity. So uh I can tell you firsthand that I've been working with DNIS on a civic wayfinding project for the Cumberland area, and they have been an excellent partner. [0:58:45, 0:58:49]: Um they've held my hand in a lot of instances. So [0:58:50, 0:58:52]: What I can tell you is we'd never stick you with someone who isn't [0:58:53, 0:59:07]: gonna be the right person to do this with. As far as phobic versus real big brick, that's that's interesting because it's uh it's a point of contention. If my superior Tiffany Chen was here, she would tell you don't go with phobic. She's a big, she's not a fan of phobic. [0:59:07, 0:59:26]: But if it's in the right vendors' hands, they can make it look like real brick. So it really kind of comes down to like your desire for real brick versus the price associated with it. As you can see, um now this cost savings isn't entirely from moving from a brick veneer to faux brick, but [0:59:26, 0:59:27]: You're probably gonna find [0:59:28, 0:59:33]: Roughly a hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of savings, give or take. I could get you the exact number. [0:59:34, 0:59:37]: Nothing is gonna replace real brick. It's got a good look. [0:59:38, 0:59:43]: Though we can be selective in what signs we do that for, because as I said earlier, some of these signs [0:59:43, 0:59:49]: You're not gonna be able to walk up close to it. You're gonna be driving by at high speeds if they're off of I seventy five. You're gonna be traveling. [0:59:49, 0:59:53]: Anywhere from sixty to seventy miles per hour. So you're gonna see it like that, but [0:59:54, 0:59:55]: You're not gonna have the time to really [0:59:56, 1:00:10]: study and absorb the the the finish. Now some of those wayfinding signs that might be adjacent to a red light, some of the pedestrian kiosks, those we might want to invest in the brick veneer because people are actually going to get up to it, potentially touch it, etc. So [1:00:11, 1:00:12]: Once we get [1:00:13, 1:00:18]: A vendor contracted, these are all explor explorations we can [1:00:18, 1:00:19]: delve into what the [1:00:21, 1:00:26]: right material is for the right location. Because this is a robust wayfinding project. You guys have [1:00:27, 1:00:35]: Thirty-four vehicular directionals, and that's just a single sign type. We have street signs, stop signs, park signs, building signs. [1:00:36, 1:00:39]: It's getting people throughout the entire city of Stockbridge. [1:00:39, 1:00:40]: Yeah. [1:00:40, 1:00:43]: Yeah, go Mr. Barrett, go ahead, please. [1:00:43, 1:00:44]: With the full grid. [1:00:44, 1:00:45]: Yes, sir. [1:00:45, 1:01:05]: And you're talking about putting it in places that's not readily accessible like the uh ones on the street. So I'm I'm guessing you're talking about like the overpass of the interstate. Yeah. How would weather and wind come into play with phobic in those particular settings? Like with with being elevated and and exposed to greater amounts of sun. [1:01:05, 1:01:10]: More wind, more trucks, more traffic, stuff like that. [1:01:10, 1:01:25]: What would phobic look like in a situation like that? If we were having this conversation ten years ago, I would say it's it's might not be the best, but technology's come quite far and a lot of the phobic is carved and then coated in very durable clear coats to give it a rigidity and [1:01:26, 1:01:26]: I mean [1:01:28, 1:01:36]: It's gonna hold up um just as long as phobic. There's gonna be different levels of degradation. You know, if someone picks that phobic, if they really get in there, [1:01:36, 1:01:40]: They're gonna be piercing into the foam. Same thing with brick though, if anyone [1:01:41, 1:01:45]: You know, that that can weather over time. Moisture gets in and expansion happens. [1:01:46, 1:01:48]: It's kind of six in one hand, half a dozen in another. [1:01:48, 1:01:49]: But [1:01:50, 1:01:55]: Neither of which are gonna be falling apart within the first couple of years. Like they're they're gonna be holding up it it [1:01:58, 1:02:00]: Vandalism and any kind of [1:02:01, 1:02:13]: Things like that are is gonna be the real problem child rather than weathering. Yeah, like the like the p so graffiti artists and stuff. So we put these really, really nice signs up over the interstate, they're phobic, and somebody comes and [1:02:14, 1:02:32]: Yep. Cancel. How do we get it back? So we could there are things we can go um and put into place. We can coat these things. And now it's it's not priced accordingly, but we can coat those things in like a a cr there's basically graffiti guards where it it's so you can power wash it right off. [1:02:33, 1:02:43]: It's none of them are gonna just like the paint's not gonna melt off. There'll still be some level of legwork required. Someone's gonna have to go out there and and hose things down, maybe do a little bit of scrubbing, but we can put [1:02:44, 1:02:45]: Um [1:02:47, 1:02:50]: Protection in place to mitigate. [1:02:50, 1:02:52]: That that. [1:02:52, 1:02:53]: Okay. [1:02:53, 1:03:09]: Okay. That and that you know, that's an interesting point, Council Melberry, because that might be an advocation for why you wanna go with this over here with painted aluminum. I know you're sacrificing the brick look, but it's a lot easier for someone to come in and just slap a coat of paint over it versus [1:03:09, 1:03:20]: Power washing brick or faux brick. So so there's it's a pro and con to everything. Yeah, it's not a black and white answer in this as far as like what's the right course. It's we kind of have to look at [1:03:20, 1:03:31]: many different things. And and these are all explorations we can do throughout the process. It's it's by no means we're awarding this to the genice and they're gonna start digging, you know, getting shovels into the ground. [1:03:32, 1:03:40]: They have to do their due diligence and make sure and f figure out a lot of how these things are going to be mounted and and installed. So um [1:03:41, 1:03:44]: And we have to go through permitting with GDOT. It's gonna be a lengthy process. [1:03:45, 1:03:57]: It's more to what what this conversation is about is to just get the next step going. We can't really make any moves until we have a vendor under contract. And no vendor's gonna make any moves until they have a contract. [1:03:59, 1:04:00]: Mr Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:04:00, 1:04:08]: Y you you sorta answered my question and you sort of alluded to as far as depending on the location [1:04:10, 1:04:20]: that may dictate the material that we may use. So and you just mentioned also um [1:04:20, 1:04:40]: When the contractor come on board, we can start to get into those kind of discussions. So you sort of already answered my question and I think this is where we may drill down a little deeper into the material depending on location of and that particular signage. So I guess we just have to just wait till we get to that point for that discussion. [1:04:40, 1:04:43]: and get into I guess material that would be used, I guess. [1:04:44, 1:04:45]: Yeah, I think that's [1:04:46, 1:04:53]: Really the best course of action is even just seeing what was presented here today with the possible development going on uh adjacent to City Hall. [1:04:54, 1:05:01]: That is gonna impact possibly the amount of wayfinding signs we have proposed already. It's certainly gonna impact the copy, so [1:05:02, 1:05:12]: nothing's quite concrete simply because we wanna shift this and mold it to be right for the city before we actually start building things. [1:05:12, 1:05:15]: Follow up question, Mayor. [1:05:15, 1:05:20]: With this discussion today, what is it that you need from us today? [1:05:21, 1:05:27]: Um we are looking for you to approve Denise as your selected vendor. [1:05:27, 1:05:47]: approve their proposed number. So that's where we came in. We were tasked with coming up with some VE solutions. Their initial budget while was more preferential to the other vendors and their proposal in general, we were still asked to find additional cost savings. So [1:05:49, 1:05:58]: Denise isn't officially contracted. We're basically looking to show you, like, here's what we can do with the numbers. Do you feel comfortable with these? Do you want to move forward? And then [1:05:59, 1:06:18]: What budgetary number do you want to contact them at? So so the number really could change depending on the material that will be used as we go forward, the numbers could change. The number can change from material. The number can also change once we actually start digging in the ground, especially for those things off uh for the major gateway signs, that being um [1:06:20, 1:06:40]: This big honker here, you could see it's thirty feet tall. It's by no means a small sign. It's gonna be right in the middle of the two different directions on an I seventy-five. We don't know truly what's underground until someone starts digging in there. I'll give you just a quick antidote with Cumberland. Um we're working through some issues where location [1:06:40, 1:06:56]: Location was great, design's great, we start digging and it is nothing but rock underneath. So we have to bore into it. We've had to change how the foundation goes. I'm not alluding to that being a possibility here. The ground which with we've proposed this location is much more planar. [1:06:57, 1:06:58]: Little m more straightforward, but [1:06:59, 1:07:04]: I also don't know what's going on from a subterranean level until someone is in there with an excavator. So [1:07:05, 1:07:10]: I want to set the expectations that while we have budgetary numbers. [1:07:11, 1:07:22]: That meter could tip one way or another. It could be in your favor where, hey, things are going great, or we've omitted some signs, or we've simplified the process and you find cost savings. There could be change orders on the other end where [1:07:22, 1:07:34]: Hey, we're trying to install this and we're dealing with some issues or there's nothing but power lines and water lines underneath here. What do we do? Uh we've had to re reroute some things. It's [1:07:35, 1:07:40]: It's unfortunately the nature of the beast for a signed proposal this large. Right. Thank you. [1:07:40, 1:07:44]: Okay. Any other questions on this side? Anybody else? Ms. Barber Goy, please. [1:07:45, 1:07:48]: I'd ask Mr. Gardner if he could um [1:07:49, 1:08:09]: See if he find information on the maintenance or warranty of the contract that denies I see that they are a small business, women own business. I see their certificate from the city of Atlanta in here. That's a good thing. They are and they're also a multi generational um [1:08:09, 1:08:29]: Company, I believe. I don't know if it's onto the second or third generation, but Mark Danice is the son of. I apologize, I forget the original owner's name, but it's been in the family for I think 50 plus years. They are a small business in comparison to some of the larger corporations that are here in the city of Georgia, the state of Georgia. [1:08:29, 1:08:30]: Georgia but [1:08:30, 1:08:38]: As far as sign fabricators go, they're probably top three in the state of capabilities and quality and reputation. [1:08:39, 1:08:47]: Um so yeah, we will have to dig up the exact warranty scope for you. Um but what I can vouch for is the level of [1:08:48, 1:08:50]: The reputation. It [1:08:50, 1:08:55]: I I've never had an issue working with them and I'm on project probably nine or ten working with them. [1:08:55, 1:09:01]: Now the um the third option um with I guess that's the aluminum. [1:09:02, 1:09:07]: Yeah, so it's it's a kind of a mix of things. The the third option with the the one point nine million dollars is uh [1:09:08, 1:09:12]: Taking these accents, making them just painted stripes. [1:09:12, 1:09:15]: Taking your brick, making it painted aluminum. [1:09:15, 1:09:20]: Taking your dimensional logo where it's kind of like big beefy pieces that are overlapping each other. [1:09:21, 1:09:35]: to more standoffs, flatter pieces, but you still get a dimensional look. And that would be that would come into play for any instances where my cursor is where you have that stock bridge logo mark. We've just tweaked how that is built. And then [1:09:35, 1:09:38]: This is the side view of your [1:09:39, 1:09:43]: uh directional wayfinding sign, vehicular wayfinding sign. [1:09:43, 1:09:48]: So we have this kind of curved accent that used to be much thicker, about a little over an inch. [1:09:48, 1:10:08]: We've reduced that to just flat material, and that has actually ended up being one of the largest cost savings. So whether we're looking at VE option one or two, that is in both of them because it's just been such a substantial cost savings. And that that is really where we looked at the cost savings. Anything else. [1:10:08, 1:10:20]: Um Councilmember Barber, we can find other ways of saving money, but it's going to be far less impactful than the options we're presenting here. Or we might be able to save$5,000 from [1:10:22, 1:10:23]: Taking your [1:10:23, 1:10:33]: i if it says um memorial park, instead of the letters being dimensional and thick, we can mask and paint them. Like we can find cost savings there, but it's going to be [1:10:35, 1:10:36]: Pennies compared to [1:10:37, 1:10:38]: Dollars that we've found. [1:10:39, 1:10:47]: Well I know that um staff has recommended the one point nine million dollar offer option, this option three. Correct. [1:10:47, 1:10:48]: Okay. [1:10:49, 1:10:51]: I prefer to stay within [1:10:51, 1:10:54]: Staff's recommendation, um, just so that we're [1:10:55, 1:10:56]: Within budget. [1:10:56, 1:10:57]: Sure. [1:10:58, 1:11:01]: Thank you. Mr Gardner, were you able to find anything? [1:11:05, 1:11:25]: Mr. Please. Let me just say this. I I don't want to go with the cheapest options. We've spent a long time working on this program to get it right. Now, I've gone to different developments. You know, yeah, we can say that the painted signs look good, but those individual letters stand out. [1:11:24, 1:11:44]: They are there for a reason. They represent quality and what they are. Now, certainly I think what we could just do today is approve a number up to. And then as Councilman Thomas indicated, uh, when we got in with the the actual developer, we could tweak it to when um [1:11:44, 1:12:04]: uh the specific locations and that kind of thing. Cause trying to solve that right now, I don't think that's gonna be any of our capabilities. So I think we could probably approve a number up to not to exceed that could include some brick and faux brick and then we would adjust it uh once we got to working with uh the actual vendor. [1:12:05, 1:12:10]: Okay. Any other questions, thoughts? On that note then, sir, did you want to make a motion? [1:12:10, 1:12:30]: Okay, so uh give me a give me a motion uh certainly give me a number where I can have s some of the uh that you think there would be a combination of the brick and the faux brick uh combinations that we would be able to use and of course we that would give us an opportunity to do that. It doesn't exclude going down. [1:12:30, 1:12:48]: I wanna have a number that can get me the the very best, but at the same time it offers a options for some cost savings with some phobic and possibly s even some aluminum. But uh give me that number that we can go up to. We know that we're not gonna exceed that number. Uh well there's a option B, I guess you said. [1:12:49, 1:12:52]: Yeah, option B is a little over l a little over two million dollars, I think it is. [1:12:53, 1:13:01]: Option B is a little more than two million if I see that right. Option B two th two million three hundred and twenty five thousand. That's full brick everything. [1:13:01, 1:13:21]: That's full brick everything, correct. Okay, so if I got full brick everything, I mean full brick, I got I got a lot of brick. I added some full brick and I saved a little room for uh possibly some aluminum. What where would that put me at? That'll probably put me between those two numbers. Yeah, I was I was gonna say maybe like two point one four. [1:13:21, 1:13:41]: five if I was kind of split the difference. And again this is gonna be um not really a hard line so we can it's as we get into the nitty gritty things. Um another consideration too is how we phase this. I know when Mr. Garden we're not doing it all at one time. So we we're doing the initial phase right you said five hundred thousand so is that [1:13:41, 1:14:01]: That's what we're really going up to. We'll uh the program uh over time will be funded by SPLOS, T SPLOS, several other providers, grants that we come through. But right now we're saying that we want to move through with this project. So I think that will probably be the best thing to do. You said two point one five? Yes, sir. Okay. So I'll make the [1:14:01, 1:14:13]: motion for two po up to two point one five understanding that we will get into greater detail when we have the f uh the um provider uh provide us with the information. So second emotion. [1:14:14, 1:14:17]: Mr. Berry Secondan, any further discussion? [1:14:17, 1:14:19]: If not all in favor of motion please indicate. [1:14:20, 1:14:21]: Couples. [1:14:22, 1:14:29]: Okay, so it passes three one zero. May I add a comment? Um I think it's important that we stay within the budget. [1:14:29, 1:14:30]: Um [1:14:30, 1:14:33]: This particular project is being funded through ARPA. [1:14:34, 1:14:45]: We all received a account balance for our ARPA funding. Um we have not with this vote um given staff a directive on [1:14:45, 1:14:52]: The overage, everything beyond the one point nine that was originally recommended from ARPA. [1:14:53, 1:14:57]: didn't designate which account they would pull the excess from. [1:14:59, 1:15:00]: I'm concerned about the overspending. [1:15:02, 1:15:09]: But nonetheless, I oppose for that reason. Thank you, sir, for your presentation. Appreciate it. Thank you all. Have a great evening. [1:15:12, 1:15:32]: What we have next are upcoming events and uh committee events things here. Council meeting will be held in the city council chamber noting some of the board and committee meetings will continue to take place via Zoom. Meeting dates and times are subject to change. Please visit the city's website at WWW, City of Stockbridge.com for the meeting invitation link, Facebook. [1:15:32, 1:15:52]: Page or contact City Hall offices 770-389-7900 for updates. Start Bridge Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting is the first Thursday of each month at 6 p.m. at the Startbridge Police Community Room, 4545 North Henry Boulevard, which is June 6th. City Council meeting is second Monday of each. [1:15:52, 1:16:03]: month at six p.m. city hall council chambers june tenth. Use uh council meeting second Monday of each month at six thirty p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room June tenth. Says it's been canceled. 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Join us at Clark Park at the one in one one David's [1:17:04, 1:17:24]: Road, Stockbridge, on Tuesdays from 5:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. for live music, great food, and a host of free games and activities for the kids. Join Councilwoman Yolanda Barber for the inaugural Final Art of this Day brunch, honoring the manifestation manifestation of greatness. This event will take place on Sunday, June 2nd from 2 p.m. to 5 p.m. at Merrima. [1:17:24, 1:17:44]: Conference Center at Stockbridge. Join Councilman Alfonso Thomas for the monthly senior bingo bash on Wednesday, June 12th, 10 a.m. to 12 uh noon at Mermanus Conference Center, 111 Davis Road for Raffles, Prizes, Games, Snacks, and F. Bring Kid's out for the annual Main Street movie night, uh, which is at Clark Park. [1:17:43, 1:18:03]: Friday, June 14th. Free games and uh activities starting at 6 p.m. Featured movies starting at uh sundown. Join Councilman Elton Alzena for District Five Town Hall Meeting on Saturday, June 15th. Location to be announced on that. Yes, sir. The location has been confirmed. It'll be at Argento. [1:18:03, 1:18:09]: Uh we'll have it there at the uh at the Argento Bridges at uh at Jodico. [1:18:09, 1:18:29]: Outstanding. Uh join the city of Stockbridge for the annual Juneteenth celebration on Wednesday, June 19th from 5 to 9 p.m. at the Stockbridge Amphitheater. There will be unique food and art vendors, food uh fun activities for the kids and DJ and live performances. Joins Councilmember Lakeisha Gantt for in partnership with Atlanta Food Truck Park. [1:18:29, 1:18:49]: For the night market at Stockbridge Ampathy parking lot from 6 p.m. to 9 30 p.m. is on on the third Thursday of each month or for the next event. And then uh that's what's happening on June 20th. There will be vendors, food trucks, activities, games, music, and vibes. Contact Tan Bowers at Tan at Atlanta.com. [1:18:49, 1:19:09]: of foodtruckpark.com for registration and additional information. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Wednesday, June 26th at 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Stockbridge City Hall. Save the date for the city of Stockbridge 4th of July Extravaganza with fireworks and live music. Gates open at 3 p.m. The concert featured soul cartel [1:19:09, 1:19:09]: Yeah. [1:19:09, 1:19:29]: Uh Algebra Blessette, Bobby V, and a Michael Jackson live tribute will take place from 5 p.m. to nine p.m. at Stockbridge Amphitheater. Save the days for the councilman, uh Councilmember Yelana Barber. Once again is partnering with Kick for Kids to collect shoes on Saturday, July 6th and Sunday, July 7th at the Stockbridge First United Methodist Church. [1:19:29, 1:19:49]: Please plan to donate what you can for this life-changing initiative. Join Council Member Thomas for the Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative centered around education highlighting the causes and effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow on that. And once again join Council Member Member Thomas and honoring veterans. [1:19:49, 1:20:09]: All year long, please send your pictures of veterans and their names, branch, rank, and years of service. Contact Roslyn Rawls to schedule an appointment with the meeting mayor for more information on Council Nift's and events. Uh call Roslin at six seven eight-eight three three-three three four eight or by way of email ralls at stopbridgega.org. [1:20:09, 1:20:29]: The 2024 Star Braze Amphithe Amphitheater Council series and uh actually we had a great uh Memorial Day series uh that just occurred with Zap, uh Brig James, Stone City Band, Evelyn Champaign King, and Rolls Royce. Fantastic concert. This next concert [1:20:29, 1:20:49]: Is uh Saturday, June 8th, uh with TLC's uh TLC celebrating the 30th anniversary of a crazy sexy cool album with special grants to Brownstone. And Brownstone was with us last year, the Gracious Days last year with us. Saturday, July 6th, Karen Briggs Contemple Orchestra featuring Phil Perry, Olita J. Adams. [1:20:49, 1:20:58]: Regina Bell, okay, Shechilla Montessucki, Jasmine Gyat, Brian Bloomberg, and Tommy Davison. [1:20:59, 1:21:19]: Okay, that's Sunday, July 7th, the end of the Fourth of July weekend featuring Charlie Wilson and uh and and this gentleman named uh Robin Thick. Uh Robin Thick's gonna join Charlie uh on Sunday, July 7th. Saturday, July 13th and Sunday, July 14th, the night with Kim and uh special guest Lisa James. [1:21:19, 1:21:23]: And Saturday, July 20th, Ladies Night Out, featuring Jodice, Johnny Gill, and Silk. [1:21:25, 1:21:45]: Saturday, July 27th, the 70 Soul Jam featuring Shine Lights, Manhattan's Legendary Blue Notes, Bloodstone, and Peach and the Herb. And then Saturday, August 3rd, uh will be Babyface with special guests, Avery Sunshine, and the four and four casts. On that note, uh my comments once again deal with [1:21:45, 1:22:05]: Well that actually we had a great Memorial Day uh weekend and uh our Memorial Day walk was uh changed because of thunderstorm and rain. So we had everything at Murray Manos Conference Center and it worked well for the amount of folks that showed up on the on this dreary, rainy, sunshiney type of day. And so uh once again for Memorial Day weekend, we have to remember that's really honoring the people that we're gonna do. [1:22:05, 1:22:25]: Gave the ultimate sacrifice, their lives for the freedom, the freedoms that we have in our country. So continue to keep those individuals all year long in your in your minds and support those families that lost those loved ones protecting our country. And that is all my uh notes at this point. And as far as I know, we have no executive session. So if that's the case, uh council I [1:22:25, 1:22:28]: So moved. Is there a second? [1:22:29, 1:22:32]: Uh Mr Berry, second from Alexander, Mr Berry, all in favor please indicate. [1:22:33, 1:22:35]: We are now adjourned. God bless ya.

--- title: Planning Commission date: 2024-05-16 source: 2024-05-16_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:02:37, 0:02:43]: And um stick one. [0:02:54, 0:02:58]: Hey, how you doing? Good. How you doing? [0:03:28, 0:03:33]: It is now six thirty. The planning commission meeting would now come to order. [0:03:37, 0:03:40]: We'll have invocation by Mr Matthew Thomas. [0:03:41, 0:04:01]: Third is the Lord's and the forteness thereof. And dear Father, we thank you for this wonderful day you have given us. We thank you for this great privilege to come and make decisions on behalf of our city. We thank you for all the leaders of our city. And God, we are praying that you will bless us. We go forth, bless each and every individual here and their families respectively. [0:04:01, 0:04:05]: Give you all the honor and praise in Jesus' name. Amen. [0:04:06, 0:04:08]: That's stand for the pledge. [0:04:14, 0:04:26]: Pledge allegiance to the United States in America and to the Republic which is one nation, indivisible with liberty and justice all. [0:04:33, 0:04:35]: Madam Secretary, I roll call, please. [0:04:40, 0:04:41]: Anthony Mitten. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Present. [0:04:45, 0:04:46]: Jaden Williams. [0:04:49, 0:04:56]: Stanley Doomis. Present. Harold Dibotho. Present. David Planchin. Present. [0:05:03, 0:05:05]: Matthew Thomas. President. [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: Thank you. [0:05:22, 0:05:28]: Thank you, Madam Secretary. I presume we have a quorum. So we shall continue. [0:05:30, 0:05:33]: I need a motion please to adopt the agenda. [0:05:35, 0:05:36]: You like [0:05:38, 0:05:41]: Mrs. Harrow, I'd like to present a motion that we adopt the agenda. [0:05:41, 0:05:42]: I'll talk about it. [0:05:43, 0:05:50]: been m moved by Mr. Thibodeau and second by Mr. Planchon that we adopt the agenda. [0:05:50, 0:05:58]: All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Any opposed? I have it. The agenda is adopted. [0:06:02, 0:06:07]: You have before you the minutes from the april eighteenth meeting. [0:06:09, 0:06:13]: If you haven't already done so, I d ask that you peruse the minutes. [0:06:14, 0:06:20]: For any necessary corrections, if if you have any, would you make those now, please? [0:06:38, 0:06:42]: I need a motion to approve the minutes from the April eighteenth meeting, please. [0:06:43, 0:06:47]: Chairman, I make the motion to approve the minutes. [0:06:47, 0:06:55]: It's been moved and properly second that we approve the minutes on the April eighteenth meeting. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of I. [0:06:55, 0:06:56]: [416.6, 418.2]: In your polls. [0:06:58, 0:07:00]: Does have it. The minutes are approved. [0:07:05, 0:07:15]: Next item on the agenda is a text amendment case, TX 2024-04 for housing shelters citywide. [0:07:16, 0:07:36]: The City of Stockbridge Mayor and City Council will hold a public hearing on Monday, June 10th, 2024, at 6 p.m. in the Stockbridge City Hall, located at 4640 North Henry Boulevard, Stockbridge, Georgia, to consider a proposed text amendment. [0:07:36, 0:07:40]: through the Stockbridge Unified Development Code, UDC. [0:07:41, 0:08:01]: To allow for the location of various types of housing shelters within the C two General Commercial, C three heavy commercial, and OI Office Industri Institutional and Lied Light Industrial Zoning Districts at special uses. [0:08:01, 0:08:07]: Requiring the approval of a special use permit through the public hearing process. [0:08:12, 0:08:15]: The case is to be presented by staff. Thank you. [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: Greetings board. [0:08:19, 0:08:37]: So before you, as read in the record, we are presenting a test amendment for specialized housing facility. And what this test amendment will do is allow for housing for um those that are homeless or looking for a um [0:08:38, 0:08:55]: that are going through an economic hardship in uh finding housing. And what we designed this test amendment to do is allow for this type of facility in certain zoning districts, such as C two, C three, O I, and L I. [0:08:56, 0:09:16]: So if you turn to the third page, exhibit A, um, that goes into the definition of specialized housing facility, I'm going to read in the record the definition of such facility. So it is a shelter, home, a refuge for those in urgent need or in times of [0:09:16, 0:09:36]: Of emergency. It is designed to provide temporary living accommodations to individuals or families who are experiencing homelessness in general. The facility may provide for overnight safe and secure environment for persons who may be experiencing financial difficulties, domestic, [0:09:36, 0:09:49]: Abuse or other challenges. This does not include substance abuse centers, personal care homes, boarding homes, and group homes. There are different types of housing shelters. [0:09:49, 0:09:53]: So there's a type tier one, tier two, and tier three. [0:09:53, 0:10:04]: So tier one states a shelter providing homelessness services whose primary purpose is to provide temporary shelter for no more than thirty days. [0:10:05, 0:10:25]: Tier two states a shelter providing homelessness services whose primary purpose is to provide temporary shelter for no more than six months. And the last tier three states a shelter providing homelessness services whose primary purpose is to provide temporary shelter for no more than a year. [0:10:24, 0:10:32]: So this language will be placed in the section 5.2 of our UDC. And um as you [0:10:33, 0:10:37]: Listen to me read that into the record. That's how it will read into our code. [0:10:38, 0:10:58]: If you go to letter B that states housing shelter as a permitted use, this will affect sections 2.4.6, 2.4.9, and 2.4.10 of the UDC. So it will be amended to add specialized housing facilities. [0:10:58, 0:11:12]: It's a permitted use under OI, which is official institutional, C2, General Commercial, C three heavy commercial districts, respectfully. And I failed to mention L I. [0:11:13, 0:11:30]: W which is light industrial. Um, the use table 3.1, section 3.1 will also be amended to add specialized housing facility in the list of specialized housing facilities as a special use permit, um, requiring a special use permit. [0:11:31, 0:11:51]: And for those that are not aware what a special use permit, um, that is a zoning request um to have a a special type of use. It requires a public hearing, so they will have to go before uh community zoning meetings as well as planning commission and the [0:11:51, 0:11:56]: last stop will be city council. So city council will have the final vote. [0:11:57, 0:12:17]: Now, if you look at section D, supplemental regulations that will affect section 3.2.17. So that section speaks to nursing homes, assisted living, hospice care facilities. We're planning to modify that section to include [0:12:17, 0:12:28]: special specialized housing facilities in the caption and in the table. And that additional row will be added to the table to require a 50-foot buffer. [0:12:29, 0:12:33]: When when specialized housing facilities are located adjacent to [0:12:34, 0:12:42]: uh rural residential, suburban residential, CCR, MFR, and RMH zoning districts. [0:12:44, 0:12:47]: Number two states the section for [0:12:47, 0:13:07]: 3.2.26 under supplemental use regulations will also be modified, and there will be um supplemental regulations that one will have to follow in order to be a specialized housing facility. And they read one in addition to required setbacks, a minimum. [0:13:07, 0:13:27]: A 50-foot-wide buffer shall be required along all property lines, which abut a residential district or use to provide a visual screen. B The specialized housing facility is not located within one mile of another homeless shelter. C One must meet [0:13:27, 0:13:38]: meet all regulations as identified and ad um adopted by our building code and adopted by the fire code. So they will have to meet those regulations. [0:13:42, 0:13:49]: D um all facility must apply for and receive a business license. [0:13:51, 0:14:11]: No more than 40 beds are um are to be maintained within the shelter. So they cannot have no more than 40 beds. F no alcoholic beverages or controlled substances are stored, served, sold, consumed, or in the possession of any person in the shelter. [0:14:11, 0:14:27]: G, the homeless shelter provides on-site parking and or a drop off space to adequ adequate to meet the needs as adequate to meet the needs of proposed facility, provided, however, that any modifications to the existing parking are [0:14:27, 0:14:33]: or drop off area will not increase the overall square footage of the existing area. [0:14:34, 0:14:35]: H. [0:14:35, 0:14:53]: The agency or organization must be registered through the Georgia Department of Community Affairs in the HUD Continuum of Care Program, Permanent Supportive Housing Program, or related State of Georgia Homelessness Services Program. [0:14:53, 0:15:02]: The facility, I the facility must maintain adequate trash service to prevent the accumulation of waste on the premises. [0:15:02, 0:15:14]: J. An operable telephone is maintained and readily available in the shelter, provided that in the event of an emergency or physical altercation, the city shall be immediately contacted. [0:15:15, 0:15:28]: And the last, which is K, is laudering, camping, sleeping, et cetera, on the sidewalks is prohibited and such shelter shall ensure compliance with the City of Stockbridge ordinance regulations. [0:15:28, 0:15:33]: So that completes my presentation on specialized housing facilities. [0:15:36, 0:15:37]: Thank you, Miss Jackson. [0:15:39, 0:15:42]: Are there questions there from the commission? [0:15:42, 0:15:44]: Yes, I do. A couple of questions, please. [0:15:46, 0:15:56]: So um just out of curiosity, is this being driven by a homeless prop problem in the city and how many potential shelters could be built? [0:15:56, 0:15:57]: Or do we have a number? [0:15:58, 0:16:06]: So there's not a specific number. They have to be at least a mile apart. So depending on that um [0:16:07, 0:16:16]: The distance will pretty much determine um but again they have to come before the board to get uh the approval to operate. [0:16:17, 0:16:37]: Also um there there isn't much available land in those districts, so uh we don't envision there being um more than three or four at the max. Uh and yes, it it is to deal with the problem of housing encampments in the city of Stockbridge. [0:16:37, 0:16:39]: That's w that is what precipitated this ordinance. [0:16:40, 0:16:41]: Well, this text amendment. [0:16:42, 0:16:43]: That's what's behind it. [0:16:44, 0:16:45]: Thank you. [0:16:48, 0:17:00]: Any of the questions? Uh may I speak, Mr. Chairman? Go right ahead, sir. Uh I notice uh you didn't mention anything about weapons. Uh no restriction as far as weapons are concerned in here. [0:17:01, 0:17:05]: Uh you did everything uh as far as laundering and [0:17:05, 0:17:25]: And different things, camping, but there was nothing mentioned about weapons. We have a issue with weapons right now. This should have been included in the in the in the document, but we will add it to make sure that it that it is in the final version. This is just the draft. So any recommendations that um that the planning commission makes tonight, we will we will include it in [0:17:25, 0:17:29]: in the final draft. So if you recommend we add that, we will add it. [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: Correct. Thank you. [0:17:34, 0:17:38]: Mr Anderson, does this uh text amendment require a public hearing? [0:17:39, 0:17:55]: Yes, it will be subjected to the public hearing process because it it will require a special use permit. They will have to come before the planning commission and then go before city council. My question is w with respect to tonight, do we need to open the floor for a public hearing? Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. [0:17:58, 0:18:00]: This is David Planchon. I have a couple of questions. [0:18:02, 0:18:08]: Um, is this going to be an actual hard facility or are you just gonna open up ground to allow tent cities? [0:18:10, 0:18:27]: Um tomorrow, I'm sorry. No, we won't be opening up ten cities ten cities. This will have to be a facility. And and do you anticipate this is going to draw people from outside the city of Stockbridge area, or are you gonna keep it to this homeless we have here in Stockbridge now? [0:18:27, 0:18:47]: I mean we don't know exactly where the homeless I mean, you know p homeless people can travel to Stockbridge. Move well move to Stockbridge. So I'm not sure if we will limit or restrict restrict it to citizens of Stockbridge. Um primarily um homel the homeless community, they travel from communities [0:18:47, 0:18:53]: to the community. So I don't know if we'll have those type of limitations, but hopefully um [0:18:54, 0:18:55]: And our intent [0:18:55, 0:19:05]: is for it to be for uh residents of the city of Stockbridge, but we can't um dictate whether or not a homeless person will will um be from the city of Stockbridge. [0:19:06, 0:19:10]: As long as it's not used as an attractant to bring in more homeless than we already have. [0:19:11, 0:19:15]: No, that's not the intent behind the work. Yeah, but it it's gonna happen. [0:19:18, 0:19:25]: We're just trying we we're just trying to deal with the um the current homeless problem we have in the city right now and um also to help [0:19:26, 0:19:29]: The veterans and other groups affected by homelessness. [0:19:33, 0:19:35]: Other any more questions, please. [0:19:37, 0:19:38]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. [0:19:41, 0:19:48]: As you heard, we'll require public hearing, so I wanna go over a few housekeeping chores. [0:19:50, 0:19:56]: With regard to the public hearing, number one, please mute all cell phones and electronic devices. [0:19:57, 0:20:08]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out a form available on the table at the right, at the hand hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. [0:20:10, 0:20:19]: After each case is called the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant or their representatives regarding the proposed plans. [0:20:21, 0:20:25]: The council will be free to ask questions any time before the vote. [0:20:27, 0:20:35]: Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have the opportun opportunity to do so. [0:20:36, 0:20:38]: Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. [0:20:39, 0:20:45]: Additional time may be extended at the discretion of council or the commission. 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[0:21:38, 0:21:47]: Failure to comply would cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if you if you de deviate from these proceedings. [0:21:49, 0:21:53]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. [0:21:54, 0:21:57]: The applicant may reserve part of his or her speaking time. [0:21:58, 0:21:58]: As a rebuttal. [0:21:59, 0:22:07]: And may speak next and last, may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. [0:22:08, 0:22:13]: If questions are raised, the counselor may ask the applicant to address questions or concern. [0:22:15, 0:22:22]: The presiding officer will call for a motion and second to the motion and have any necessary discussions. [0:22:22, 0:22:26]: If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for a vote. [0:22:27, 0:22:31]: To recommend approval or denial of of the request. [0:22:34, 0:22:34]: Thank you. [0:22:36, 0:22:46]: Mr Chair, if we could, um before we get to the next case, can we read them into the record together, discuss it together, but vote separately? [0:22:47, 0:22:48]: We can do that. [0:22:49, 0:22:57]: But first you you need to open up for those in a approved or those not in approved. Not in appr not in favor. [0:23:00, 0:23:08]: Okay. With respect to the text amendment case T X twenty twenty four dash zero four for housing shelters. [0:23:10, 0:23:18]: I'd like to know if there's anyone in the building who opposes this text amendment. [0:23:20, 0:23:22]: And wishes to speak. [0:23:26, 0:23:29]: If you wish to speak, please line up in that owl. [0:23:30, 0:23:33]: And proceed to the podium. [0:23:34, 0:23:36]: Give your name and address. [0:23:40, 0:23:54]: My name's Connie Snow, 426, Chase, Mary and Way, McDonough, Georgia, 30253. My question more likely is uh what areas of town in Stockbridge would this be located? [0:23:54, 0:24:00]: So for example, I know we're saying it's gonna be in areas that were designated C two, C three, is that correct? [0:24:03, 0:24:07]: Yeah, G that's correct. That is correct. Yes. [0:24:07, 0:24:27]: So I'm pretty sure, like I if I'm not mistaken, and maybe you guys might need to look back in their records, but in recent annexations and rezonings for Patrick Henry, I do believe some of those developments were classified as C2, maybe possibly C three. Would any of those facilities be close or [0:24:27, 0:24:33]: be placed on the Patrick Henry Parkway area or Holloway or any cl anywhere close to the schools. [0:24:34, 0:24:47]: I can answer that. Um no, the intent is to ins to exclude exclude those type of facilities from the parkway mixed use overlay district and that area is is is within the parkway mixed use overlay district. [0:24:48, 0:24:49]: What area? [0:24:49, 0:24:50]: Patrick Henry Parkway. [0:24:51, 0:25:08]: So we're we're saying those that this won't wouldn't be placed on Patrick Henry, correct? They will be excluded from the PMU and and park Patrick Henry Parkway is is inside the PMU, the Parkway mixed use overlay district. They will not be allowed in the overlay district. Okay. So do we know where they would exactly be placed? [0:25:09, 0:25:29]: I mean not exactly, but uh uh the PMU uh covers about sixty to seven between sixty and seventy percent of of the entire city. It mostly covers areas where there are large arterials or collector streets, uh like um Rock Quarry, um how [0:25:28, 0:25:35]: 138, Patrick Henry Parkway, East Atlanta Road, uh, Eagles Landing Parkway. So they will be excluded from areas like that. [0:25:37, 0:25:45]: But am I right in saying that this is going to be held for a public hearing on June tenth, correct? Yes, ma'am, before city council. [0:25:45, 0:25:53]: So shouldn't those areas be defined before that even makes it to a public hearing so the community has a right to offer their input? [0:25:53, 0:26:09]: Yes, ma'am. I mean it it's defined now if they look at the um the land use map or the um or the city or the map of the city or the zoning map. So I'm asking the f definition, what street areas are we looking at this impact for? [0:26:11, 0:26:13]: Is it Hudson Bridge? Is it? [0:26:13, 0:26:15]: Ellen Wood is it? [0:26:15, 0:26:33]: Jodaco, is it Pate's Creek? I mean that's what the question we're asking. So then what areas? It would be areas mostly off major art that are not included in on major arterials or collector streets. [0:26:34, 0:26:37]: Would it be possible to get an actual [0:26:37, 0:26:46]: 'Cause I mean, on the site, there's no map or anything that's outlaying anything that's being heard today. There's no applications, nothing that's really being [0:26:47, 0:27:07]: Entered of substance where the community can actually look at what's going on. So that's the point I'm trying to make. Uh we have my point is, let me finish, is if we could please get a full detailed report of where we can anticipate where this housing will be or what we're proposing, so that the citizens of the community. [0:27:07, 0:27:25]: can be aware of what's gonna happen to them. That's all I'm asking. Well your point is is is well taken ma'am. However uh those areas uh are designated um well basically what we have done we've ex we've we've uh identified the areas areas where they will be excluded. [0:27:26, 0:27:32]: So So when do we identify the areas where it's gonna be included? [0:27:32, 0:27:39]: Well, I would hope that you guys would have that available way before the hearing so that we have time to review it. [0:27:40, 0:27:41]: Oh [0:27:43, 0:27:56]: Uh Mr Mr Chair, may I speak? Yes, sir. Um I'm I'm listening to the young lady and everything she's saying is correct. And what's happening is she's basically saying [0:27:56, 0:28:02]: that we're making decisions and move without really presenting the whole package to the community. [0:28:02, 0:28:22]: Uh this is what I'm getting from her. That's not the case. Um Well what is the case, but I'm listening to this young lady speak and you're not exactly telling everything she needs to know. We we're identifying the areas where they will not be allowed. And that's all we really have to do. I mean if if they're they're excluded from certain dish zoning. [0:28:22, 0:28:31]: zoning districts and the overlay district, then anywhere else in the city that has the specific zoning district that is mentioned, they can go there. [0:28:32, 0:28:52]: I I understand that th but I I also understand the question that she's trying to ask. She's basically saying, Hey, you're putting information out there and they don't think that they're getting all the information they need to understand what we're doing about this particular situation. [0:28:52, 0:28:55]: being very transparent and um the information is available. [0:28:56, 0:28:59]: Um you just have to look at a zoning map. [0:29:01, 0:29:21]: When Patrick Henry Parkway was annexed into the city, it was annexed with the anticipation of being a commercial slash high density housing zone because it's uh adjacent to the interstate, which is required for all high density housing, plus commercial, you know what's going on down at Jodigo Road and it's it's [0:29:21, 0:29:41]: Amazing for the county. I can't imagine this is my personal opinion. I can't imagine throwing in the middle of all of that this kind of facility. And the parkway mixed use overlay district will exclude their use. Yep. I know what it is now, but it there aren't many areas where they [0:29:41, 0:30:01]: They can go in the city, but we will try to do that. This this is a public hearing. We have people w waiting to speak. We can discuss those issues after the public has weighed in. Any other questions that need to be clarified, we'll be happy to do that at that time. [0:30:01, 0:30:06]: Ma'am, would you please state your name and your g give us your address and proceed? [0:30:06, 0:30:26]: Tasha Kempel, 410, Chase Marion Way, McDonough, Georgia, 30253. Um, this is the first I've heard about this meeting tonight, um, along with some other items that are on the agenda. Um, I feel like City of Stockbridge, the councilman, and slash lady, um, lady. [0:30:26, 0:30:40]: They don't address most of the issues to the public, the citizens that live here in the city of Stockbridge. So I feel like a lot of these items are getting passed without the you know proper posting on the [0:30:40, 0:31:00]: pages where people can read or something like that if they want to attend. So I would like to state um as far as the homelessness, um you've got homeless people that are criminals that you're gonna be housing. Um that's really dangerous. Um ex like what if there's someone [0:31:00, 0:31:17]: That's homeless, that doesn't have a record, their life might be in danger. So there's one point. Then you got the other point. What about the security about the surrounding people? Like, I don't know. So, anyways, I don't agree with any of this and that's all I gotta say. Thank you. [0:31:21, 0:31:22]: Next, please. [0:31:27, 0:31:43]: Uh good afternoon. Uh thank you everyone on the council. My name is Jocelyn Williams. I live at one ninety Banks Drive, uh Stockbridge, Georgia, three oh two, eight one. I'm in uh opposition to the uh homeless buildings being built. I think they s mentioned we could have up to four. [0:31:44, 0:32:04]: Uh if I'm correct when they were discussing it, the maximum could be four. Was that the number that I heard? That was just an um I was just d guessing, really. I'm not sure uh exactly how many it will be, but we always can place a limit in the uh in the text amendment based on the comments we get tonight. [0:32:04, 0:32:15]: This is a draft that we're presenting tonight and we'll take the comments that we received tonight and we'll we will rework the text amendment to include a specific limit if that's what the public will want. [0:32:15, 0:32:35]: Okay. I also want to uh thank you for this opportunity for us to speak. Um piggybacking on if if we could get uh tonight where we could go and get information. I'm new I was just annexed into um um Stockbridge. I'm excited about it. I came from Henry County and it's done differently. So whatever procedures and guidelines that [0:32:35, 0:32:55]: Stockbridge has for us to find this information. I'd be so grateful if uh so I can make an informed decision. But my rec record is showing that I'm in opposition but would like to move forward where we could get exact information. I don't I'm elderly, I don't know how to read the zoning maps. So I want to thank you, Mr. Anderson, if somebody could break it down so that I could have [0:32:55, 0:33:07]: Yes, ma'am. Okay, I appreciate you. And you can speak to one of our staff members off the record and they'll they'll give you additional. Okay, I thank you. Thank you, Counselman. Thank you. Next, please. [0:33:13, 0:33:29]: Uh good afternoon, good evening, gentlemen and ladies. Um my name is Christina Lovett and um I just recently purchased my home in Stockbridge. I live at uh 180 Oakwood Circle in Stockbridge, Georgia, 30281. [0:33:30, 0:33:32]: And I wanna apologize for coming in a little late. [0:33:32, 0:33:52]: But I I kind of came in on the tail end of the um comments that were being made in the discussion for homelessness. Um I wanna say that um I don't know exactly what uh areas you're talking about, but I got a letter in the mail at this [0:33:52, 0:34:12]: This address stating that there was going to be a hearing today about re um zoning, possibly rezoning, right around the street that I live. And I wasn't sure exactly what that meant, but I do want to say that I am in favor with the limited [0:34:12, 0:34:32]: information I have of for trying to help the homeless population as long as like the one lady commented, as long as it's safe for the public. But we do need to do something for homelessness. I'm the CEO of [0:34:32, 0:34:36]: Um somewhere to go. [0:34:38, 0:34:53]: somewhere to go. It's a a non profit uh to help people who are homeless or underhoused, um, generally for no fault of their own. I'm also a disabled veteran and so um it's very important to me [0:34:53, 0:35:13]: uh that somebody does something about the homelessness uh in our communities across the board. Um I lived in Clayton County and then I per purchased a home here in Henry County. So my my question would be [0:35:13, 0:35:15]: The um [0:35:16, 0:35:23]: What the lady uh this woman here had said earlier, it would be very important for us to have. [0:35:24, 0:35:24]: Um [0:35:25, 0:35:35]: knowledge of exactly where uh the homeless shelters were going to be. And can I ask how many homeless shelters? [0:35:35, 0:35:50]: We're not as Mr. Dunwell's gonna answer that or you want me to go right ahead, sir. We can't uh say for sure, but we will add to the text amendment, we will probably limit it to two or three until the city population grows. We'll we'll put in a statement to that effect. [0:35:50, 0:35:57]: Yes, sir. What we're presenting tonight is basically a draft. So we want to get the s the the community's input on it. It's not a final draft. [0:35:57, 0:36:02]: So after this meeting we will go back and work on it based on the comments and feedback we received tonight. [0:36:03, 0:36:05]: Thank you. And um [0:36:06, 0:36:17]: Is is that going to be in the part of the area that you were saying for the maps, is that going to be around Oakwood Manor, um, close to the Walmart here? [0:36:18, 0:36:26]: Ma'am, uh we can't we can't say for sure, but uh we know the areas that they will be excluded from. So uh um exactly where [0:36:27, 0:36:31]: They will be they would have to go to those specific zoning [0:36:31, 0:36:35]: uh districts that have been mentioned. They won't be in residential neighborhoods. So [0:36:35, 0:36:37]: We realized that it could um [0:36:38, 0:36:56]: possibly have a negative impact on residential uh zoning districts. So it it will not be allowed in residential districts. So we're trying to reduce the impact on our citizens. But however, um there is a big problem in the city that we want to address as far as housing encampments. So we feel like this is the most fair way to do it. [0:36:57, 0:37:17]: Okay, I would I would love to be able to work with um this program, you know, to be of assistance. My uh um nonprofit is hoping to try and house people with the home voucher programs uh to put them into hotel areas and things like that. So I would love to be able [0:37:17, 0:37:21]: able to be a a part of it. I'm I'm finished, but thank you all. Thank you. [0:37:23, 0:37:43]: Miss No, because you're an exceptional lady, we're gonna make an exception and allow you to speak one more time. I just have one more question. I just have one more question. Is this gonna impact any of the TAD districts, specifically those in the downtown district where there are elderly people where the city's already approved a couple of property attacks creases? [0:37:43, 0:37:55]: I just want to make sure we're not gonna hit those elderly people anymore with any other tax increases that we've already done. [0:37:55, 0:38:05]: Ma'am, it will be ex like I mentioned earlier, it w the overlay districts will be excluded. Okay, cool. The downtown overlay district, they will not be allowed in that area. [0:38:05, 0:38:11]: Will you let us know when you know what's gonna be included? How about Mr. Chairman, I have a question. [0:38:12, 0:38:23]: Like all ordinances and and r request to change what we have, where did this request come from? Who requested this ordinance change? [0:38:25, 0:38:35]: Uh Mr. Plans and uh it it was just uh a request so we can try to d deal with the um the housing encampments and and homelessness problem in the city. [0:38:36, 0:38:43]: That's that's what's spuriating. Just out of the blue or does somebody some body get together and it's the ongoing problem. The city wishes to address it. [0:38:44, 0:39:04]: So no one specifically recommended it, but there's a need for it within the city. Well, there's a need worldwide for it, but Stockbridge is kind of a small creature on the That's that's true, but we have a significant uh homeless population and okay I'll just address that issue uh before it gets out. [0:39:04, 0:39:12]: Okay. I was just curious if somebody actually requested it. Can we hear from the next individual, please? [0:39:15, 0:39:21]: Hi, I'm Cyrinthia Evans at one forty six Could you speak into the microphone please became I'm Cyrinthia Evans? [0:39:23, 0:39:24]: Go right ahead. [0:39:24, 0:39:35]: 146 St. Margaret Circle, Stockbridge, Georgia, in reference to your proposal. And I am a veteran. [0:39:35, 0:39:40]: I take exception to throwing it out as a [0:39:41, 0:39:43]: that title veteran. [0:39:43, 0:39:47]: To encourage this development. [0:39:47, 0:39:53]: Do you have any figures on the number of homeless people that are in camping in Stockbridge? [0:39:54, 0:39:55]: Not an exact figure, man. [0:39:56, 0:39:58]: Okay. You say that you have [0:39:58, 0:40:01]: Excluded certain places. [0:40:03, 0:40:07]: from being possible sites for the zoning district. [0:40:08, 0:40:17]: Okay, so for and in the same sense I feel that you've also taken a look at places that would accept this facility. [0:40:18, 0:40:21]: So at what point do you think that you'll reach that? [0:40:22, 0:40:24]: Say accept, what do you mean? [0:40:24, 0:40:31]: As far as the placement of this facility, you're saying that you have ruled out certain areas, right? [0:40:33, 0:40:35]: Based on the compatibility. [0:40:36, 0:40:37]: Based on what? [0:40:37, 0:40:39]: compatibility. [0:40:39, 0:40:42]: Compatibility for the facility? [0:40:43, 0:40:44]: The land use. [0:40:44, 0:40:46]: Oh, for the land use. Okay. [0:40:47, 0:41:02]: All right, I'll make it. I oppose until I have more information about what and where this will go. I like where I live and I do not want to see more changes. There are different things that are around my [0:41:03, 0:41:08]: home that I am concerned about. So for add anything else, no. [0:41:09, 0:41:10]: Thank you. [0:41:12, 0:41:13]: Thank you very much. [0:41:15, 0:41:20]: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak in favor of this text amendment? [0:41:27, 0:41:34]: Hearing none, the public hearing aspect is now closed. Thank you very much for your comments. [0:41:37, 0:41:42]: Are there any more questions or comments from staff? I'm sorry, from the commission. [0:41:43, 0:41:50]: One question regarding you say this is a draft. So will we have the opportunity as a commission to see a final [0:41:50, 0:42:06]: Yes, you'll you'll be able to see a final, yes. And um and the purpose of this meeting tonight is basically to get input from the Planning Commission and from residents. So that will give us a chance to improve the document prior to us sending it to city council. So this will come back to this commission. [0:42:07, 0:42:27]: No, it won't come back to this commission, no sir. So it will go final package will go straight to the city council for public debate. Unless you vote to uh defer and and then if you vote to defer, um then the city council will have to will have a choice to make whether or not they agree with your um recommendation, but they still will have the choice to make a mic. [0:42:27, 0:42:31]: us to proceed with the with the legislation if they d if they desire. [0:42:33, 0:42:36]: But we will take in all comments that we have received tonight. [0:42:37, 0:42:39]: and uh incorporate them into the document. [0:42:41, 0:42:55]: Okay, I just wanna make sure that this is not go to the city council next month and is voted. I just wanna make sure this does not go to the city council next month and is voted on as a final package and I think there's still a lot of questions here on this commission. [0:42:56, 0:43:01]: Yes, yes, sir, I understand that, but we will uh incorporate all the comments and feedback. [0:43:02, 0:43:06]: That's applicable that we've heard tonight into the draft. [0:43:07, 0:43:08]: Thank you. [0:43:09, 0:43:11]: Mr. Chairman, may I speak? [0:43:12, 0:43:12]: Um [0:43:14, 0:43:26]: I I kinda understand the dilemma here and and it seems to be that we are lacking information in terms of what the city council wants to do. [0:43:26, 0:43:28]: But I will say this, uh [0:43:30, 0:43:31]: This planning zoning. [0:43:32, 0:43:36]: does not make the last decision. We we can say yes [0:43:37, 0:43:43]: And the city council I mean we can say no and the city council can say yes at the end of the day. So you need to understand that. [0:43:43, 0:43:48]: That we don't have the last say so no matter what comes up. [0:43:49, 0:44:09]: At this planning zoning meeting. So just keep that in mind when you come up here and address issues with us. The city council has the final say-so, no matter what decision we make. And for all those veterans, I'm also a veteran. I'm one of your Vietnam veterans. So you do have some. [0:44:08, 0:44:12]: Thank you. [0:44:15, 0:44:35]: Any more comments, please. Mr. Uh Chairman, I would just like to say those of you who oppose, I understand uh the seriousness of your concerns, and uh it is my heart desire that uh information would be given to you um concerning the defined areas because I can definitely [0:44:35, 0:44:38]: and at least uh understand cut circles. [0:44:44, 0:44:46]: The areas have been defined, sir. [0:44:47, 0:44:52]: The the areas have been defined. We we w we mentioned four specific districts. [0:44:53, 0:44:58]: So just you just have to look at the zoning map and look for those zoning districts. [0:45:03, 0:45:23]: I think it may be important, uh, Madam Secretary, if you would read back to us the amendments that have been articulated that Mr. Anderson has informed us would be [0:45:22, 0:45:27]: add it to this m text amendment for the record before we vote. [0:45:30, 0:45:31]: What did you capture? [0:45:31, 0:45:51]: Sure. One of the items I captured is to include weapons as a prohibited use or um one of the prohibited uses. Um the other is to define more of where in the city these facilities will be located. [0:45:51, 0:46:11]: And um I understand that there's a question on do we know the population of our homelessness in the city of Stockbridge? So we would definitely um look into or research that information and provide it at our next meeting. Um [0:46:11, 0:46:20]: take into consideration to place a limitation based on the population of the city of Stockbridge on the number of those type of facilities that can be in the city. [0:46:22, 0:46:23]: Anything else? [0:46:24, 0:46:26]: That's the gist of what I have. [0:46:28, 0:46:31]: Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. [0:46:33, 0:46:53]: Mr. Chairman, I just want to make a comment. You said the areas are defined. Yes, sir. The areas are defined. But she used the word they're where. I guess that's what I'm saying about. I'm not sure which her intent was, but we listed four specific districts in which they are allowed. Zoning districts in which they are allowed. [0:46:53, 0:47:00]: Allowed and they cannot go in and it cannot be included within the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District and the Downtown Overlay District. [0:47:01, 0:47:02]: So it's really [0:47:02, 0:47:07]: Just four areas that are excluded of those two overlay districts. That's not much land. [0:47:11, 0:47:27]: And we we will w when we go back into the office tomorrow, we will update the the document to um we will come up with a exact number that we feel would be appropriate before we move forward to the city council. Uh I'm thinking maybe two or three at the max. [0:47:31, 0:47:32]: Thank you. [0:47:32, 0:47:43]: Uh I need a motion please uh with respect to text amendment case uh for housing shelters incorporating the uh [0:47:45, 0:47:52]: Amendments that Ms. Jackson just articulated. Could I get a motion from the commission, please? [0:48:03, 0:48:09]: Let me be more specific him, but can I get a motion to approve from the commission? [0:48:12, 0:48:15]: Can I get a motion to deny from the commission? [0:48:16, 0:48:25]: Mr. Chairman Dave Planchon, I'd like to make a motion to deny this uh proposed change to our city ordinance. [0:48:26, 0:48:42]: Is there a second? I second it, Harold. It's been moved by Mr. Planchon and seconded by Mr. Thibodeau that we deny the text amendment case TX twenty four twenty twenty four-zero four for housing shelters. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of I. [0:48:43, 0:48:44]: Okay. [0:48:45, 0:48:45]: In your polls. [0:48:48, 0:48:54]: The eyes have it. The text amendment case is denied. Thank you, Ms. Jackson. [0:48:55, 0:48:56]: You're welcome. [0:48:58, 0:49:06]: Next case, comprehensive plan amendment case p twenty twenty-four-zero one, council district five. [0:49:07, 0:49:18]: The City of Stockbridge Planning Commission will hold a public hearing on Thursday, May 16th, which is today at 630. The City Council, Mayor and the City of Stockbridge. [0:49:19, 0:49:39]: Located at 4640 North Henry Boulevard in Stopridge, Georgia, to consider a comprehensive plan amendment request to change the future land use designation of property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive comprising Parcel 032-0. [0:49:39, 0:49:51]: Sero one zero two six thousand from medium density mixed use to medium density residential to allow for the construction of a town home development. [0:49:52, 0:49:56]: The applicant is Lenar, Georgia, LLC. [0:49:57, 0:49:59]: Agent is battle law PC. [0:50:00, 0:50:10]: Property is located in land lot twenty-one of district six and it contains twenty p point three point three point three six seven acres more or less. [0:50:13, 0:50:15]: To present about there, please. Go ahead. [0:50:16, 0:50:23]: If I can, Mr. Chair, um, can we also read the rezoning component to this comprehensive plan? [0:50:23, 0:50:27]: Resulting case RZ dash twenty twenty four dash zero one. [0:50:29, 0:50:39]: Council District 5, the city of Stockbridge Planning Commission will hold a public meeting on Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:30 p.m. [0:50:40, 0:50:49]: And the city of Stockbridge mayor and city council will hold a public hearing on Monday, june tenth, twenty twenty four at six PM. [0:50:50, 0:51:10]: in the Stockbridge City Hall located at forty six forty North Henry Boulevard in Stockbridge, Georgia, to consider a request to rezone property on the north side of Hudson Bridge Drive comprising parcel zero zero thirty-two-one zero two six thousand. [0:51:10, 0:51:10]: Yeah. [0:51:11, 0:51:20]: from the C two General Commercial Zoning District to the multif MFR multifamily residential zoning district. [0:51:21, 0:51:25]: to allow for the construction of a town home development. [0:51:26, 0:51:27]: The property [0:51:28, 0:51:33]: also lies within the PMU, the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. [0:51:34, 0:51:48]: Applicant is Lenard Georgia LLC agent. It's Battle of Law PC. The property is located in land 21 of District 6, and it contains 20.367 acres, more or less. [0:51:49, 0:51:50]: Two presenter was air. [0:51:51, 0:52:11]: Thank you, Mr. Chair. The subject property before us tonight, um, the applicant is proposing a development of a townhome community that will consist of 140 fee simple units at the parcel number that was read into the record. The entire acreage of this parcel is [0:52:11, 0:52:25]: 20.367 acres of district six, landlock 21. And as mentioned, the applicant is Lenar Georgia, Cara of Better Law PC. So the property is currently zoned C2. [0:52:27, 0:52:41]: And what the applicant is seeking is to rezone that property to MFR, which is multifamily residential, and also to change the land use to misuse. [0:52:41, 0:52:50]: Medium density misuse uh to allow, I'm sorry, medium density residential uh to allow for this townhome development. [0:52:51, 0:53:11]: Now this has been before you a few times, and I'm just going to go over the background for those that are not aware of this um zoning request. So previously it came to you um in multiple facets of the zoning request. [0:53:11, 0:53:31]: This was originally a part of the Walmart master plan development plan and this property also went through a DRI process. The Sudra property um was a part of the again Walmart Supercenter as a misuse development for a total of 70.16 acres. And [0:53:31, 0:53:51]: And what happened was at that time, that entire property was annexed into the city of Stockbridge. When that property was annexed into the city, it was zone C2. And it was then split. So you had track one and track two. What we're currently speaking of, this side is on track one. [0:53:51, 0:53:55]: one and the Walmart Super Center is on track two. [0:53:56, 0:54:16]: Now the original track two um became a standalone parcel for future development. Um there was a covenant on the property that basically restricted retail uses. That covenant has now expired, so therefore this applicant now has the autonomy to come before you and ask for. [0:54:16, 0:54:18]: for this type of rezoning. [0:54:19, 0:54:39]: Um as I mentioned before there was a DRI um plan that was um put in place to um look at the traffic, look at uh environmental concerns, etc. Um after the review the site shall be used a [0:54:39, 0:54:59]: Shall be misused and contain a minimum of 200 residential units and a mass of 343,500 square feet. Um that DRI conditions have now expired. So it has been 10 years since that DRI. So we're looking at, let's go to the zone. [0:54:59, 0:55:12]: activity that was first first came to you in 2019. And that was RZ 2019-04. And at that time the applicant requested a 118 home [0:55:12, 0:55:32]: townhome development on 18.23 acres. It was eventually approved by both Planning Commission and City Council on October 14, 2019. However, the applicant at that time redrew the application and there was no further action. [0:55:32, 0:55:33]: Yeah. [0:55:36, 0:55:56]: In 2020, an another application came before you, also a rezoning. And in this case, the applicant sought a rezoning of 147 townhome development. Now the Planning Commission did hear the case on June 25th, 2020. [0:55:56, 0:55:56]: [3357.0, 3365.1]: Uh both the staff and planning commission recommended approval with conditions. It did go to city council. City council denied it. [0:56:07, 0:56:23]: In 2022, another applicant, which is battle law and uh representing Carter acquisitions came before us and the change or the zoning request changed somewhat. [0:56:24, 0:56:32]: They requested to rezone the property from C two to MFR to allow for the development of a townhome community. [0:56:32, 0:56:48]: Um however they wanted 330 units. The proposed development was over the allowable density of sixteen units per the high density residential future land use designation. Uh therefore [0:56:48, 0:56:50]: Um after [0:56:50, 0:57:08]: talks with the applicant, the applicant redrew their application along with their comprehensive plan amendment, which was CP-2022-07. So here we are today in 2024. Again, speaking of trap one is where they want to build this development. [0:57:08, 0:57:28]: Um, although this development will consist of 140 townhomes, which is far less than um what was previously brought to you, um they will need a comprehensive plan, comprehensive plan change to proceed with this development. Now before you um you have the parcel, it is planned. [0:57:28, 0:57:33]: pointing at the subject property where they're tending to build the townhomes. [0:57:35, 0:57:36]: This [0:57:37, 0:57:57]: shows the surrounding land use designation. So you have to the north St. Ives apartments. Um there's a subdivision. The land use for those are high density residential. To the south you have commercial uses on Hudson Bridge as well as JJ Liquor and [0:57:57, 0:58:17]: In Western Union, that is deemed as high density mixed use, high density residential. To the east, you have a shopping center that is deemed medium density mixed use. And to the west, you have Oakwood Village Subdivision as well as Oakwood Mainor Subdivision. [0:58:17, 0:58:24]: Vision. Again, those have a Henry County future land use of medium density residential. [0:58:25, 0:58:27]: Um we both do have a [0:58:28, 0:58:30]: A land use of medium density residential. [0:58:32, 0:58:51]: Now, here is just a breakdown of the subdivisions, the number of units that are in those subdivisions. Um I won't read those into the record as you can see. Um so let's get into the project itself. So as I mentioned before, um the future land use change here will allow [0:58:51, 0:59:11]: the developer to be able to construct townhomes on this property after if the rezoning is approved from multifamily residential to be able to do this. Now if you look at the consistency with the comprehensive plan as found [0:59:11, 0:59:31]: On pages 36, 38, and 44, what they're proposing does align with the goals of our comprehensive plan. And those goals are before you to provide a mixture of housing for to attract young professionals, to maintain a family-friendly environment, and a sense of [0:59:31, 0:59:34]: [3575.5, 3592.3]: So with staff analysis, we have um looked at the land use designation as well as the rezoning, and we do feel that the surrounding properties and the f surrounding land use designations does fit in what what is being requested. [0:59:52, 0:59:54]: Um staff has [0:59:54, 0:59:57]: recommended approval. [0:59:57, 1:00:01]: And that concludes our presentation before you tonight. [1:00:03, 1:00:04]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. [1:00:07, 1:00:11]: Are there any questions or comments from the commission, please? [1:00:12, 1:00:14]: Uh Mr. Chairman. [1:00:14, 1:00:34]: Mr. Mitten had raised the info. Yes, ma'am. So um that corridor between the quick trip and JJ Lickers is pretty much controlled chaos. So is I see that the entrance into the complex is basically going to use that. Is there any has there [1:00:34, 1:00:54]: There been any traffic study, anything done? Great question. We did ask the applicant for traffic study. We did not receive a reply. And if I can take this moment to mention that the front edge of the property, the setback, the front setback is not in compliance with the MF. [1:00:54, 1:01:07]: our zoning district. So the applicant will need a variance um to move forward. So um to answer your question, no, we have not received a traffic study. [1:01:08, 1:01:08]: Thank you. [1:01:10, 1:01:11]: Mr. Turbado, please. [1:01:12, 1:01:22]: I think we would need that traffic study because I I think it already has been done before. Now you said that this has come be before us three times, right? [1:01:22, 1:01:24]: Correct. [1:01:24, 1:01:29]: I I remember this property and uh we had issues with homeliness. [1:01:30, 1:01:41]: people over there and incidents in that area. Uh we also made a lot of recommendations that that area uh would be uh gated. [1:01:41, 1:01:49]: when that time came that we did other things over there, uh there was a lot of recommendations made for this property so that way [1:01:49, 1:01:51]: We wouldn't have issues. [1:01:52, 1:01:56]: Um from my understanding, if you made it commercial [1:01:57, 1:02:11]: it would actually be more traffic. If you made it uh multifamily use, it'll be less traffic from my understanding. Of the years of looking at this property, go back and forth to people that wanna develop it. [1:02:14, 1:02:15]: Anyone else? [1:02:21, 1:02:22]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. [1:02:26, 1:02:28]: As stated earlier, this is a [1:02:29, 1:02:31]: Public hearing item. [1:02:33, 1:02:40]: We will now open the floor for public hearing. If there is anyone present tonight, [1:02:41, 1:02:43]: Who is in favor of this? [1:02:45, 1:02:49]: Comprehensive plan and rezoning case. [1:02:53, 1:02:55]: You may come to the podium and speak. [1:02:57, 1:03:00]: Hearing none, a seeing none, oh [1:03:01, 1:03:05]: I'm opening it up now for anyone that's opposed to it. [1:03:06, 1:03:08]: Could you please light up in this owl? [1:03:13, 1:03:18]: Is the applicant the applicant needs to speak? Is the applic is the applicant present? [1:03:19, 1:03:21]: I'm sorry, just a moment. [1:03:22, 1:03:23]: Is the applicant present? [1:03:25, 1:03:26]: Apparently not, sir. [1:03:31, 1:03:32]: Okay, you may proceed now. [1:03:37, 1:03:42]: Good evening. Um my name is Barber Floshman. I live at ten twenty six Brandon Road, McDonough, Georgia. [1:03:43, 1:03:45]: I am in unincorporated Henry County and [1:03:46, 1:03:48]: And I'm a landowner and a lot of the stuff [1:03:48, 1:03:51]: Affects me and doesn't affect me. [1:03:51, 1:04:04]: But um I my one question is why do we have a planning and zoning commission if everything y'all say or do gets overridden? I don't know if the city council takes in de into consideration any of your comments or not. [1:04:04, 1:04:05]: But it just [1:04:06, 1:04:07]: It seems like a waste of time. [1:04:08, 1:04:17]: But also we're not supposed to comp complain about traffic. Have y'all dri ridden down Eagle Sandy Parkway lately? And it's like dodged the hole. [1:04:17, 1:04:22]: I mean literally dodge the hole and you're talking about more building. [1:04:24, 1:04:26]: What what about the roads and what about the traffic? [1:04:26, 1:04:29]: My husband and I went to a closing in Locust Grove about [1:04:30, 1:04:31]: Mm, three o'clock. [1:04:31, 1:04:35]: And we were back on the road, where I was gonna come up to Eagle Standing Parkway and get off and get some gas. [1:04:36, 1:04:37]: And um [1:04:38, 1:04:40]: It took me an hour and a half. [1:04:40, 1:04:41]: To get [1:04:42, 1:04:45]: At Bill Gardner Parkway, up Dagles Landing. [1:04:46, 1:05:06]: to get off to get gas and I'm thinking, okay, if y'all don't care about the traffic, I sure do. I'm retired, but I spend most of my time sitting in traffic now. And like I said, all these things that y'all are doing affects all of us. And I don't understand why everybody wants to be all of a sudden unincorporated, wants to be annexed in the city. [1:05:05, 1:05:25]: And what's the benefit of being annexed in the city? I mean what what are our benefits and what's the detriment? So I pay Henry County taxes. If I get annexed into the city, do I then pay city taxes? Okay, so why would I want to be annexed into the city? And so what is the city's budget? Are y'all Mr Dumas, this is [1:05:25, 1:05:26]: Is out the scope. [1:05:27, 1:05:27]: Huh? [1:05:28, 1:05:30]: This is not pertaining to the case. [1:05:30, 1:05:37]: You're right. Well anyway, I just think would y'all please consider the traffic? Thank you. [1:05:39, 1:05:43]: I believe that the lady in the blue was next. [1:05:44, 1:05:50]: It no, no, no, no, no. No, you cut line behind you. These two lateral Yeah. [1:05:54, 1:05:55]: Good catch. [1:05:57, 1:06:17]: Okay, so um again I'm Christina Lovett at 180 Oakwood Circle and that's the property I was talking about earlier. Uh so my question is the town homes that are uh they're trying to put up um as multifamily use, um would they be for sale or [1:06:17, 1:06:37]: rent. Does anybody know the answer to that? They're for sale. So okay. And um what happens with the homes that we currently live in are uh they're just regular residential, not multifamily use, like with just regular houses. [1:06:37, 1:06:44]: Um so what happens with that property? I mean, are they trying to like buy our property out or [1:06:47, 1:07:00]: Okay. And um would there be something like a HOA then? I I know someone was talking about maybe a gated community, I think they had mentioned uh is this [1:07:00, 1:07:01]: Pardon me? [1:07:03, 1:07:11]: Okay, I currently am not in a HOA, so would that change for me under this proposal? Your property won't be affected at all. [1:07:11, 1:07:15]: 'Cause I live right on Oakwood here. Okay. [1:07:15, 1:07:33]: Okay, and um would anybody be able to answer this question? Would our taxes increase? You know, I mean I I know the property taxes are really going up. I mean, we already have people being taxed out of their homes. Okay, thank you. Next question. Tax police. [1:07:37, 1:07:57]: Uh good evening again. Thanking the council so much for uh working with me this evening. My name is Jocelyn Williams. I live at one ninety Banks Drive, Stockbridge. The reason I'm in opposition um of this um development is beautiful and I know it will bring in a lot of people. I'm just concerned I've been here since nineteen ninety-two and Mike concerned. [1:07:57, 1:08:17]: Is the flipping road corridor? Um, there's no infrastructure, there's no widening. Uh, went to uh online, there's nothing for the 2024-2030 um that's gonna be built uh for that area, unless I didn't see is anything being built for the um flipping road corridor to widen or to [1:08:17, 1:08:24]: [4105.4, 4108.1]: But is it anything that you know of concrete? [1:08:30, 1:08:40]: Okay. That's the only reason. Uh we already have a beautiful uh broader farm. They just built that. They just built their um Popeye's chicken and they're building a beautiful um [1:08:40, 1:08:55]: um car wash and I just was in opposition only because I didn't know is there a different frontage to this um gated community? Will there be only one near the Taco Bell? Will they be able to get in and out? Is that only one access? [1:08:57, 1:08:58]: [4138.9, 4146.0]: Okay, I know the frontage would be near the Taco Bell. Is another way that they could get into um their subdivision? [1:09:06, 1:09:08]: There will be an em emergency access. [1:09:09, 1:09:15]: Emergency access but n nothing that the regular residents could use on a regular basis? [1:09:16, 1:09:23]: Okay. I just want to thank the council again and I appreciate you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Next please. [1:09:28, 1:09:38]: Good evening, gentlemen. My name's Cheryl Whitnell and I live in Saint Marguerite. I want to talk to you about three subjects regarding motor vehicle safety. [1:09:38, 1:09:39]: Um [1:09:40, 1:09:46]: We are in the St. Ives flipping road right across from the golf course. [1:09:47, 1:09:55]: When Broto Farms was built and the increase in traffic and population of Henry County. [1:09:55, 1:09:58]: The roads are not able to accommodate. [1:09:59, 1:10:09]: We cannot get out of our subdivisions. I do not believe a thorough investigation regarding traffic was ever done. [1:10:10, 1:10:13]: when this was done because there is no room for expansion. [1:10:13, 1:10:24]: Not only that, um there are trees, bushes that we cannot get out of the subdivision because we can't see and we're halfway in the middle of the road. [1:10:25, 1:10:30]: The other thing is there's nothing to contain traffic between banks and Hudson Bridge. [1:10:31, 1:10:32]: And it's a free for all. [1:10:33, 1:10:37]: We cannot get out, okay? And [1:10:37, 1:10:43]: I you've added Broder, you've added the you've added that um you've got [1:10:44, 1:11:04]: Increased traffic between 138 and Hudson Bridge. So my and there are no traffic, no street lights between Stay Knives and Hudson Bridge. So my request would be a comprehensive study of where uh stay knives and flippin' meet to try to either get some kind of caution sign. [1:11:04, 1:11:08]: stop sign, um anything because somebody's gonna get killed. [1:11:08, 1:11:12]: If they don't cut back those branches, somebody's gonna get killed. [1:11:12, 1:11:14]: Um if they don't install [1:11:15, 1:11:22]: Streetlights, somebody's gonna get killed. These are simple things that should have been thought of when we increased. [1:11:22, 1:11:24]: The population in that area. [1:11:26, 1:11:32]: So I would hope that you would take this tonight and first and foremost have those bushes cut back. [1:11:32, 1:11:34]: Because otherwise [1:11:34, 1:11:37]: We're in the middle of the road trying to make a turn. [1:11:37, 1:11:40]: And I'm sure none of you want that on your conscience. [1:11:42, 1:11:43]: Thank you, ma'am. [1:11:44, 1:11:50]: I'd like to remind the planning commission you can't take transportation issues into consideration when you make your decision. [1:11:53, 1:11:59]: Ma'am, you may take your seat. Is I mean, is there any way you guys can do a traffic study? You may take your seat, ma'am. [1:11:59, 1:12:00]: Okay. [1:12:00, 1:12:01]: Oh, is it weird? [1:12:04, 1:12:09]: But the tank was fine. [1:12:16, 1:12:17]: The public hearing [1:12:18, 1:12:20]: It's not closed. [1:12:24, 1:12:42]: I would need a motion from the commission with regard to comprehensive plan amendment K C P twenty twenty-four-zero one. Mr. Chairman, before we do that, I have a couple of statements to make because the requester is not here. I want to turn my questions into just statements if I'm allowed. Go right ahead, sir. [1:12:43, 1:12:46]: We have the number of units that they're planning on building in this. [1:12:47, 1:12:56]: development, but they don't say how many anticipated residents they're looking to to put in these units. That's one statement. [1:12:58, 1:13:00]: Um course the big issue is [1:13:01, 1:13:04]: egress into the property in and out and [1:13:04, 1:13:08]: Um I wanted to ask the developer if he is prepared to [1:13:09, 1:13:15]: purchase additional properties around this entrance because right now they do not own property to the street. [1:13:15, 1:13:27]: Um the Taco Bell and the bottle shop and I think Walmart owns the property there. Are they prepared to purchase property to put in appropriate uh traffic control devices? [1:13:28, 1:13:45]: you know, at that intersection in the middle of the curve. Um that's kind of what squashed it in the last couple of plans they've had for it. So I was just w gonna I was gonna ask them that, but since they're not here I'm just making a statement that they will have to purchase additional property. [1:13:47, 1:13:50]: No, Mr. Chair, may I speak also? Go right ahead, sir. [1:13:51, 1:14:01]: I I think it's unfair to make any decisions if you if you don't have the client here to answer all the questions pertaining to developing the property. [1:14:11, 1:14:31]: My name is Alex McCart. I'm with Moor Bass Consulting. We have worked some on this project, um, and I was letting the applicant know for some reason they didn't know it was on the agenda tonight. I can't explain all that, but they wanted me to ask for a deferral. So if that's possible. [1:14:32, 1:14:33]: Sure. [1:14:33, 1:14:33]: Thank you. [1:14:40, 1:14:43]: Mr. Chairman, I have a question. Go ready, sir. Um this gentleman here. [1:14:45, 1:15:01]: Just curious if the uh if the developer has held any kind of a community forum to discuss with any of the residents. So that's what kind of the messages I'm receiving. They've hoped to do that before this meeting tonight. [1:15:02, 1:15:22]: Again, I can't explain all the scheduling mishaps, but that's their intent, yes. Okay. I would suggest if possible that they try to schedule a forum, be it a Zoom call, uh something prior to coming here to kind of tamper the emotions, get a lot of the questions out. Uh it's very helpful. [1:15:22, 1:15:23]: I find yes, I agree. [1:15:23, 1:15:25]: Okay, thank you. You got anything else from me? [1:15:27, 1:15:27]: Thank you sir. [1:15:29, 1:15:36]: So I just heard from the uh attorney representing the client on this project. They wish to defer this matter. [1:15:37, 1:15:40]: All right, sir. That's what he just said. Yeah. [1:15:41, 1:15:43]: So having heard [1:15:44, 1:15:49]: I need a motion to defer it. The comprehensive plan amendment case and the resulting case. [1:15:50, 1:15:53]: I would like to present a motion that we defer. [1:15:54, 1:15:55]: Is there a second? [1:15:56, 1:16:16]: It's been moved by Mr. Thibodeau and second by Mr. Mitten that we defer the comprehensive plan amendment case CP twenty twenty-four-zero one and the rezoning case, RZ2024-01. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of aye. Aye. Any opposed? As I have it. [1:16:16, 1:16:18]: These cases have been deferred. Thank you. [1:16:22, 1:16:36]: Next is an annexation case AX twenty twenty four-zero one. Council District Five, the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission will hold a public meeting on Thursday, May sixteenth, twenty twenty four, at six thirty PM. [1:16:37, 1:16:38]: And the city council. [1:16:39, 1:16:55]: The City of Stockbridge, Mayor and City Council will hold a public hearing on Monday, July 8th, 2024, at 6 PM in the Stockbridge City Hall, located at 4640 North Henry Boulevard in Stockbridge, Georgia. [1:16:56, 1:17:03]: To consider a request to annex property on the southeastern corner of Patrick Henry Boulevard, Patrick Henry Parkway. [1:17:04, 1:17:05]: And Holloway Road. [1:17:07, 1:17:15]: The parcels uh subject to this is zero seven one A zero one zero eight eight zero zero three. [1:17:15, 1:17:20]: zero seven one eight zero one zero eight nine zero zero zero [1:17:21, 1:17:32]: zero seven one eight zero one zero nine zero zero zero zero and zero seven one eight zero one zero nine one zero zero zero [1:17:33, 1:17:35]: From Henry County. [1:17:35, 1:17:40]: R three and C three to the city of Stockbridge [1:17:43, 1:17:45]: Uh C three. [1:17:45, 1:18:03]: The applicant is Nathan McGuerty. The property is located in landlot fifty seventy-nine of District Six and unincorporated Henry County and it contains two point six three acres of land more or less. [1:18:04, 1:18:05]: Mm-hmm. [1:18:05, 1:18:08]: Mr Gordon Linton, please. [1:18:08, 1:18:09]: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [1:18:11, 1:18:25]: Uh my name is Gordon Linton, Planner One for the City of Stockbridge. I'm here to present the annexation twenty four twenty-four-zero one, the CP twenty twenty-four-four, and RC twenty-four-zero four. [1:18:29, 1:18:49]: As he mentioned, the applicant is Mr. Nathan McGerty, and the owner is Holloway Jodico Property Partners. The number of acres is 2.6 acres, and the address of the property is located at Project County Parkway at Holloway Road. The project characteristics, the properties are vacant, and the county land use that [1:18:49, 1:18:55]: Designation is low density, any land land use zoning is C three along with R three. [1:18:59, 1:19:03]: So these are the four parcels parcels that are located here. [1:19:08, 1:19:18]: And this is the joint joint zoning map. The parcels are right here and as you can see it is contiguous with seventy seven and eighty seven Highway Road. [1:19:19, 1:19:30]: twenty five Holloway Road and the two other parcels zero five two dash zero one zero thirty one hundred and zero five two zero one zero twenty three zero zero two. [1:19:34, 1:19:37]: And this is the joint future land use um zoning. [1:19:43, 1:19:46]: And staff recommends approval for the annexation. Mm-hmm. [1:19:48, 1:19:53]: Uh the next one is on the comprehensive plan, C P twenty twenty four dash zero four. [1:19:55, 1:20:03]: Um, the applicant's request is to assign the future Latin use designation of high high density mixed use once the properties have been annexed into the city limits. [1:20:05, 1:20:11]: This is the comprehensive plan amendment for twenty twenty four and this is a definition of high density mixed use. [1:20:14, 1:20:34]: And as you can see, the surrounding land use designations, which with property to the north, which is high density residential, Harring County, high density residential, Stockbridge, properties to the south, mixed use, which is Harring County, properties to the east, low density residential, Harring County, and properties to the west, mixed use, Henry County, and high density mixed use. [1:20:38, 1:20:39]: And staff recommends approval. [1:20:41, 1:20:50]: And last but not least, the uh RZ 2024-04. It is important to note that some of the properties there are surrounded by [1:20:51, 1:21:10]: C three, which is down here in this area by Herring County. And it's also surrounded by PUD. So therefore we recommend that we assign the C three heavy commercial once we annex it to the city. And it also will be consistent with the policy and goals of the EDC. It does meet those requirements. And therefore our staff recommends approval. [1:21:11, 1:21:17]: Thank you. Thank you, Gordon. Any comments, questions from the commission? [1:21:21, 1:21:26]: Uh it is important to note that the uh pro property owner is not proposing any development at this time. [1:21:28, 1:21:29]: Thank you. [1:21:33, 1:21:34]: No questions, no comments. [1:21:34, 1:21:40]: Mr Chairman, since this is the same piece of property we just deferred, would we like to defer this as well? [1:21:41, 1:21:42]: Come again, sir? [1:21:43, 1:21:47]: So since this is the same piece of property we just deferred it's not. [1:21:48, 1:21:52]: It's not the same page. You sure? No. [1:21:54, 1:21:58]: Yeah, Mr. Planchin, this I think this property's over in the overlay district. [1:21:59, 1:21:59]: Probably say. [1:22:04, 1:22:07]: No. No. [1:22:08, 1:22:10]: Okay. I stand corrected. [1:22:12, 1:22:13]: You good? [1:22:14, 1:22:17]: You clear? Yes, sir. Okay, good. Thank you. [1:22:19, 1:22:20]: Thank you, Gordon. [1:22:20, 1:22:21]: Sorry. [1:22:21, 1:22:30]: We will now open this the floor for public hearing regarding the annexation, the comprehensive plan, and the rezoning. [1:22:31, 1:22:38]: Of those these four parcels of Patrick Henry, are they anyone in the building whose [1:22:39, 1:22:40]: In favour of [1:22:43, 1:22:45]: Come right up, sir. State your name. [1:22:50, 1:23:03]: My name is Alex McCart with Moorbass Consulting. I'm uh the agent representing Nathan McGarrity. Uh I'm just really here to answer any questions. We just uh using this to clean clean up some of the split zoning that's here. [1:23:04, 1:23:04]: Thank you. [1:23:10, 1:23:15]: The before you sit down, sir, does any or the commission have any questions for [1:23:17, 1:23:18]: The consultant. [1:23:19, 1:23:21]: No questions? Thank you, sir. [1:23:24, 1:23:26]: Are there anyone in the building who's [1:23:26, 1:23:28]: Opposed to this annexation. [1:23:31, 1:23:33]: Please come forward, state your name and address, please. [1:23:35, 1:23:40]: Connie Snow, four twenty six Chase, Marion Way, McDonough, Georgia. [1:23:40, 1:24:00]: I de I disagree with this request for annexation or any other act annexation that has been proposed for any property on Patrick Henry Parkway. We have currently gone through about two or three right now. These annexations are setting up my community in the Eagles Crest subdivision to be island off. And if you're from [1:24:00, 1:24:20]: Familiar with SB 612, that caveat. So you do have the thing where you could ask to be annexed off if you're a landowner, if you're in a neighborhood that's maybe surrounded differently, you vote for it. But if you're where I'm living right now, you're forcing us into an island, which means if we're forced into an [1:24:20, 1:24:27]: on an island, we get no vote on annexation. And there is not one person in my neighborhood that is a homeowner. [1:24:27, 1:24:47]: That wants to be a part of Stockbridge. And by doing this annexation, we will be forced to become an island. And then we will be forcefully annexed off and a city that we want no part in. And that is our choice. Additionally, I do have a question that I would like everybody to answer tonight in regards to SBC. [1:24:47, 1:25:07]: 612. In 2022, it appeared on a ballot asking if Stockbridge, you wanted to be a part of Stockbridge. A lot of us in unincorporated Henry County believe that that did not appear on our ballot, and therefore we were not allowed to vote on it, but yet we are suffering the consequences of that vote. Can anybody compare? [1:25:07, 1:25:16]: Confirm here today, or can they provide me further research where that appeared on every ballot for Henry County? This is off-scope. [1:25:17, 1:25:19]: You need to let me finish. [1:25:20, 1:25:40]: We are against this. Additionally, we have documented that the city of Stockbridge has constantly changed their comprehensive plan on multiple occasions to fit the needs of developers. At what point does this stop, and at what point do we take care of our citizens? Because where I'm standing and where I'm living, I [1:25:40, 1:25:52]: I am getting pushed into a situation I do not want to be. And I can promise you this, if I become a part of the city of Thoughtbridge, I will not make life easy. [1:25:53, 1:25:57]: Mr. Dilmers, we need to stay on scope. Thank you, Ms. Null. Next please. [1:26:04, 1:26:10]: Tasha Kempel, 410 Chase, Marion Way, McDonough, Georgia, 30253. I do not agree with this. Um [1:26:10, 1:26:24]: I do think that property owners have the right to sell to who they want to sell to, yes. But if it's gonna be a multifamily unit again or a used car lot or a new car lot, whatever it is. [1:26:25, 1:26:34]: I don't think I'm fond of that. But I do know that the traffic getting off of Holloway Road, there's no light there. There's no roundabout. [1:26:35, 1:26:51]: Not even a four-way stop sign. So it's so hard to get out right there. And I'm not driving to Tunis to go to a red light when you got school getting out of and then having all these school buses. So anyways, just looking at this, it's just gonna be more congested. My neighborhood. [1:26:52, 1:26:55]: More people, more crime, gas station. [1:26:55, 1:26:58]: Across the street from the racetracker already had a shooting over there. [1:26:59, 1:27:03]: So I don't know how much more crime that this area is gonna be getting, but [1:27:04, 1:27:09]: I don't feel good about it. Um, that's all I gotta say. Thank you. Mm-hmm. [1:27:11, 1:27:12]: Anyone else, please? [1:27:13, 1:27:16]: The public hearing is now closed. Thank you. [1:27:16, 1:27:17]: Yeah. [1:27:20, 1:27:21]: Any comments from commission? [1:27:31, 1:27:35]: No comments? No questions? [1:27:40, 1:27:41]: I see. [1:27:44, 1:27:45]: Go ahead, Miss Jackson. [1:27:49, 1:28:00]: I just want to remind everyone there is no proposed development. They're only pr um planning to and it's four parcels into the city. No proposed development. [1:28:00, 1:28:01]: That one. [1:28:02, 1:28:04]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. [1:28:06, 1:28:18]: No further questions, no further comments. I need a motion from the c commission respect to annexation case AX twenty twenty four-zero one. [1:28:26, 1:28:27]: Chairman. [1:28:27, 1:28:38]: Well I sympathize with the uh with the citizens. Um I'll just note before I cast uh before I make my motion that this is C three to C three from county to city. So I'm gonna make the motion to approve. [1:28:39, 1:28:44]: Is there a second? Second. It's been moved improperly second. [1:28:44, 1:28:51]: That annexation case AX twenty twenty four dash zero one be approved. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of I. [1:28:52, 1:28:53]: Uh. [1:28:54, 1:28:55]: In a pulse. [1:28:56, 1:29:05]: I opposed. Harold. We have three in favor, Mr. Plashawn, Mr. Mitten, Mr. Thomas. [1:29:06, 1:29:10]: W one Mr. Thibodeau was in opposition, so they uh [1:29:12, 1:29:15]: The f affirmative vote is to approve the annexation case. [1:29:18, 1:29:25]: Next, I need a motion on the comprehensive land use amendment KCP 2024-04. [1:29:28, 1:29:30]: I need a motion from the commission, please. [1:29:32, 1:29:34]: Mr. Chairman, I make the motion to approve. [1:29:36, 1:29:36]: One second. [1:29:37, 1:29:51]: It's been moved by Mr. Minton and second by Mr. Thomas. The comprehensive land use amendment KCP twenty twenty four-04 be approved. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of I. [1:29:51, 1:29:52]: Hi. [1:29:53, 1:29:55]: Any opposed? No opposed. [1:29:56, 1:30:02]: The eyes have it. The comprehensive plan amendment case is approved. [1:30:04, 1:30:09]: With regard to the rezoning case R Z twenty twenty four dash zero four. [1:30:11, 1:30:14]: I need a motion from the commission, please. [1:30:17, 1:30:19]: Mr. Chairman, again I make the motion to approve. [1:30:21, 1:30:21]: Not second. [1:30:22, 1:30:26]: Mr. Mitten has moved approval, Mr. Thomas will move to second it. [1:30:28, 1:30:30]: All in fail let be no Marsanova. [1:30:30, 1:30:31]: Okay. [1:30:32, 1:30:34]: Any opposed? Opposed. [1:30:35, 1:30:38]: There has habit the rezoning cases. [1:30:39, 1:30:46]: Approved. Mr. Plashon, Mr. Mitten, Mr. Thomas voted yay. Mr. Thibodeau voted nay. [1:30:48, 1:30:49]: Thank you very much. [1:30:51, 1:30:58]: Project updates from the staff. Staff has none. No project updates. Any comments from staff? [1:31:00, 1:31:03]: No comments? Any comments from the board? [1:31:04, 1:31:04]: Sure. [1:31:07, 1:31:15]: Got no comments, meeting stands adjourned. Thank you. Have a great evening, everyone. [1:31:31, 1:31:35]: Yeah, getting a small one short. [1:31:39, 1:31:43]: They don't even live in the city of Stocks Raven, they come in here.

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[0:04:31, 0:04:34]: Because now I see Fred. Hey everyone just pop in. [0:04:38, 0:04:45]: Oh, can you hear me? Let me see. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Hi, Fred. Hey, I do now. Um [0:04:47, 0:04:48]: Demetrius. [0:04:48, 0:04:51]: I just got off the phone with Angie Angie. [0:04:52, 0:04:52]: Mm-hmm. [0:04:53, 0:04:57]: So uh we were just talking about how to fix this little [0:04:57, 0:04:59]: issue is going on. [0:04:59, 0:05:02]: Yeah, I I Quentin talked to me. He said that [0:05:03, 0:05:10]: The title companies thing was incorrect, but the one that that they had was correct, and that's the one we should go by. [0:05:10, 0:05:14]: I think I told Andrew that the buyer um the the [0:05:16, 0:05:25]: We did both. We did a title report on both of those, but the parcel identification number, I think, in one y'all did is incorrect. I think the partial identification number in in the [0:05:26, 0:05:28]: Updated title report is the actual property. [0:05:29, 0:05:29]: Uh [0:05:30, 0:05:32]: That's what it's looking like of a [0:05:33, 0:05:37]: Andy's gonna help. We're gonna figure this thing out. So [0:05:37, 0:05:40]: She's gonna look at it again and [0:05:40, 0:05:44]: So I think the the issue is the um [0:05:48, 0:05:50]: The resolution conveying the property. [0:05:50, 0:05:51]: Mm-hmm. [0:05:51, 0:06:01]: The D the the s the this parcel identification number referenced in that resolution is correct for that parcel, but I don't believe that that's the parcel. [0:06:03, 0:06:04]: That the [0:06:05, 0:06:07]: That the property that the hotel is supposed to be built on. [0:06:08, 0:06:10]: I think the p I think the reference is incorrect. [0:06:13, 0:06:19]: Anyway, that's what the the buyers we we have been looking at um a few weeks. So if we [0:06:20, 0:06:21]: Should should we? [0:06:21, 0:06:25]: If it's subject, I sent I'm gonna send Angie's information to the title company. [0:06:26, 0:06:26]: Okay. [0:06:27, 0:06:29]: to and also to the buyer's attorney. [0:06:29, 0:06:33]: And we're gonna work it all out. If we have to just switch it over, if the city needs us to [0:06:34, 0:06:41]: give the property back and do a switch or if this is one other but you know we'll we'll we'll do what tell us to do. [0:06:41, 0:06:44]: I I go down that rabbit hole again. [0:06:46, 0:06:56]: But um Andrew said it can be fixed and so I just uh so we'll I'm I'm confident that we can get it done. I'm just glad we still have time because there's a May 28th city council meeting. [0:06:57, 0:07:01]: Um quick question. Uh this this meeting is being streamed live. [0:07:02, 0:07:07]: Mm-hmm. Yep. We're we're just talking ahead of the meeting. It's just the two of us. So it's not the board comp [0:07:08, 0:07:09]: Participating, but we'll wait. [0:07:10, 0:07:13]: No, no, no. I'm I'm saying this is being streamed. [0:07:15, 0:07:26]: Yes, I didn't know wait until we had a a quorum. But are y'all gonna stream it once we have a quorum or is it stream? What I'm saying to you is it is live. She's saying it's live. Okay. Okay. [0:07:26, 0:07:26]: Yeah. [0:07:27, 0:07:30]: Okay. How can I give him that information? [0:07:30, 0:07:37]: So if he goes to the secretary, I'm sorry, the um city of Stockbridge, um [0:07:37, 0:07:38]: Page? [0:07:39, 0:07:43]: Um he can go into the live meeting. Um [0:07:45, 0:07:48]: It is under our um [0:07:49, 0:07:53]: Is there a way we can drop it in the chat? Is there an opportunity to put this in the chat? [0:07:54, 0:07:57]: I don't even see a chat option. [0:08:01, 0:08:08]: Where don't we see a chat option? Vanessa, are we able to drop that link inside of a chat? Do we not have that option here? [0:08:10, 0:08:17]: I don't believe that was part of the setup. There are certain things you have to select when you s set up the meeting. [0:08:18, 0:08:23]: Okay. Okay. I think it's appropriate to start the meeting since we're live streaming, Mount Chair. [0:08:23, 0:08:33]: Okay. Yeah. Um I'll just say this, uh, Mark, if you can uh go to the link where um Vanessa sent the [0:08:33, 0:08:35]: The agenda [0:08:35, 0:08:40]: It will go directly to the page where he can join. [0:08:41, 0:08:45]: That's correct. Right. So we uh we're it's still saying we're in practice session, Vanessa. [0:08:48, 0:08:51]: Can we come out of it? Hold on. [0:09:15, 0:09:35]: I mean, if it's no big thing to if if it's still being able to be streamed, I know we're still in practice mode. Um, we'll we'll move forward. So we're gonna call this meeting to order at 6.09 p.m. It is Tuesday, May 14th. Um, can we move forward and do a roll call, Secretary? Can [0:09:35, 0:09:38]: Can you do the roll call for the board, please? [0:09:42, 0:09:43]: Yes, just one moment. [0:09:57, 0:09:58]: Mm-hmm. [0:10:00, 0:10:02]: Бор Чай Арил Ша. [0:10:02, 0:10:03]: Present. [0:10:05, 0:10:05]: Um [0:10:10, 0:10:10]: Yeah. [0:10:11, 0:10:13]: Sorry, I'm trying to bring up the [0:10:14, 0:10:19]: agenda so I can I can do it if if you can that that's fine. I can jump in. [0:10:20, 0:10:24]: Um so Samantha Samuels, vice chair. [0:10:24, 0:10:25]: Here. [0:10:28, 0:10:31]: Lakeisha Gantt, uh Councilwoman Lakeisha Gantt. [0:10:35, 0:10:36]: Mark Glenn? [0:10:37, 0:10:37]: Here. [0:10:40, 0:10:41]: Gats and woodall. [0:10:42, 0:10:42]: Present. [0:10:46, 0:10:47]: Terry Gleaton. [0:10:48, 0:10:48]: Present. [0:10:51, 0:10:53]: And uh Latonya White. [0:10:55, 0:10:56]: Which yeah. [0:10:57, 0:10:58]: Or council present. [0:10:59, 0:11:01]: All right. Thank you. [0:11:06, 0:11:09]: I would like to make a motion to approve. [0:11:09, 0:11:13]: the agenda as presented. Hopefully everyone has had an opportunity. [0:11:14, 0:11:15]: to um [0:11:15, 0:11:23]: See the agenda. Um, do I have a motion? Uh I I want to put it down a motion to approve the agenda. Do I have a second? [0:11:25, 0:11:25]: I second. [0:11:26, 0:11:29]: All right, seconded by Vice Chair Samuels. [0:11:30, 0:11:32]: Do I have any discussion? [0:11:33, 0:11:35]: All right, so all in favor? [0:11:35, 0:11:36]: Uh I think. [0:11:37, 0:11:38]: Uh [0:11:38, 0:11:41]: Okay. Awesome. [0:11:41, 0:11:45]: We have um we have to approve the [0:11:45, 0:11:55]: minutes from we had two meetings in April, one being uh our regularly call meeting, which was on April 9th. [0:11:55, 0:12:01]: And then our special call emergency meeting, which was on April sixteenth. [0:12:01, 0:12:09]: If we can um take a moment, if you have not to review those meeting minutes. [0:12:09, 0:12:14]: Um if there are any changes, um please let us know. [0:12:15, 0:12:17]: Um or let the clerk know. Um [0:12:19, 0:12:20]: And we'll just [0:12:21, 0:12:23]: We'll give about a minute to review guys. [0:12:23, 0:12:27]: If you haven't had a chance, but we'll give everybody another minute or so. [0:12:45, 0:12:46]: What [0:12:50, 0:12:51]: Hmm. [0:13:29, 0:13:40]: Right. Does anybody have any changes, recommendations, um, additions to the April 9th? Do we need to approve these separately, Attorney Wiley? [0:13:42, 0:13:43]: Yes. [0:13:43, 0:13:48]: Okay. So does anyone have any changes to the April 9th? [0:13:48, 0:13:52]: Meeting minutes. Any additions? Any changes? [0:13:54, 0:13:56]: Okay. [0:13:57, 0:13:58]: Okay. [0:13:59, 0:14:00]: Uh [0:14:01, 0:14:02]: The paint. [0:14:02, 0:14:03]: Page two. [0:14:04, 0:14:06]: Uh vote to [0:14:06, 0:14:07]: Um [0:14:08, 0:14:09]: approved the [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: Paims to the um [0:14:14, 0:14:15]: I like it. [0:14:16, 0:14:17]: Use that. [0:14:18, 0:14:19]: Або [0:14:19, 0:14:19]: Mm. [0:14:20, 0:14:22]: We can folks in here that's going to use this office. [0:14:23, 0:14:24]: Um [0:14:26, 0:14:27]: Basically. [0:14:28, 0:14:31]: Mr. Secretary, I can't understand what you're saying. [0:14:36, 0:14:40]: There's some some folks in here. Um and I'm exiting the the office. [0:14:42, 0:14:43]: Excuse me, just for a moment. [0:14:56, 0:14:57]: Please proceed. [0:14:59, 0:15:05]: Okay. All right. So if if there are no uh no changes, I know um [0:15:05, 0:15:13]: Secretary Glenn stated he had some changes. I don't think he's able to communicate that right now. But if we don't have any additional changes, [0:15:13, 0:15:20]: Um, I would like to make a motion to approve the April 9th minutes as it is. Um, do I have a second? [0:15:21, 0:15:22]: I have a second. [0:15:23, 0:15:24]: All right. Thank you, Terry. [0:15:24, 0:15:26]: Um, are is there any discussion? [0:15:27, 0:15:30]: All in favor of approving April 9th minutes. [0:15:32, 0:15:32]: Fine. [0:15:34, 0:15:41]: All right. We've heard from all we've heard from Mark. We've uh We did not he's muted. [0:15:41, 0:15:45]: So we don't have a vote from um board member Glenn. [0:15:45, 0:15:49]: Okay. Um is that an ab is that a is he abstaining from [0:15:52, 0:15:56]: We ha we have a majority vote, so we the motion does pass. [0:15:57, 0:16:01]: So we can move on to the April 16th emergency meeting. [0:16:02, 0:16:04]: Were there any changes? [0:16:04, 0:16:06]: Is that okay? Um [0:16:08, 0:16:10]: Clerk and attorney Wiley, are we good? [0:16:11, 0:16:12]: With the April ninth. [0:16:13, 0:16:14]: motion to um [0:16:15, 0:16:19]: in a in in uh to move forward with this these minutes. [0:16:21, 0:16:23]: I recorded it as four. [0:16:24, 0:16:27]: Votes and an affirmative and no vote from Mr. Planned. [0:16:28, 0:16:29]: Okay, thank you. [0:16:29, 0:16:34]: All right, so April sixteenth, if there are no changes to the minutes. [0:16:35, 0:16:40]: I would like to make a motion to approve the April sixteenth minutes. [0:16:43, 0:16:45]: I like to file a um [0:16:47, 0:16:51]: Please second Yes, second, I'm sorry. [0:16:52, 0:16:59]: Okay. Uh seconded by uh Terry. Um, is there any discussion? [0:17:00, 0:17:06]: Hello, this is Secretary Glenn. Sorry for uh the delay there. Sorry for interruption. Um [0:17:07, 0:17:10]: There was a a change that I did see. [0:17:10, 0:17:18]: to uh uh to have me abstain from the uh vote to change the bylaws. [0:17:19, 0:17:21]: Uh that was actually an uh [0:17:21, 0:17:25]: Uh I opposed that vote. I did not abstain. [0:17:29, 0:17:37]: Okay. Um attorney Wiley. Can you let us know what re what pace that was because that that discussion happened a few times during that meeting. [0:17:39, 0:17:40]: Yes, I believe that was page two. [0:17:42, 0:17:45]: Okay, so page two. [0:17:45, 0:17:48]: On the ninth doesn't have a vote. [0:17:48, 0:17:49]: It was on the sixteenth. [0:17:50, 0:17:54]: Oh on sixteenth meeting. Okay. Yes. All right. [0:17:57, 0:18:05]: So what was your vote for the meeting for the ninth? I'm I'm sorry, the sixteenth, he was not present for that meeting. You mean the ninth? [0:18:07, 0:18:08]: Um [0:18:09, 0:18:11]: Yes, I'm sorry, the sixteenth. [0:18:20, 0:18:24]: Okay. On the ninth he was present by teleconference. So what is your vote? [0:18:25, 0:18:28]: For the minutes to be approved on the ninth. [0:18:30, 0:18:34]: Just to uh add that correction. Uh and um [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: I vote two. Approve the minutes. [0:18:49, 0:18:54]: Do you have that um Vanessa? Are we able to move forward with April ninth? I mean April sixteenth. [0:18:57, 0:19:05]: I'll note that I just need to find it in the minutes it didn't so that I can reference the page because it's not page two. [0:19:05, 0:19:06]: Okay. [0:19:06, 0:19:08]: Okay. So I'll make the correction when [0:19:09, 0:19:10]: O of what page it is. [0:19:11, 0:19:18]: Okay. All right. Madam Chair, I'm sorry. Uh Councilwoman Gantt, I I couldn't get on. [0:19:18, 0:19:32]: I've done everything. I text you as well as I sent an email to Miss Holiday. It wouldn't let me get on. I called in, but it had me as an attendant to the meeting. So I just hung up from that. [0:19:32, 0:19:36]: 'Cause I couldn't talk, but I've I've had the hardest time getting on today. [0:19:38, 0:19:50]: Okay, no problem. Thank you for joining in, Councilwoman Gantt. We're just um approving minutes from April's meetings, so we haven't gotten into really anything yet. [0:19:50, 0:19:51]: Okay, great. [0:19:51, 0:19:53]: We will make a [0:19:53, 0:19:56]: Um be sure to make an adjustment. [0:19:57, 0:20:00]: to count Councilwoman Gantt present. [0:20:01, 0:20:03]: For the roll call, if we can do that, um [0:20:04, 0:20:05]: Madam Clerk, I have it. [0:20:06, 0:20:07]: All right, awesome. [0:20:08, 0:20:24]: Okay, so moving on to the April again April 16th minutes. I want to make a motion to approve those minutes as presented. Um, if there are no changes. So um I believe Terry seconded. Um all in favor. [0:20:27, 0:20:28]: Hi. Hi. [0:20:29, 0:20:32]: I didn't have any discussion on that. Okay. Awesome. Thank you. [0:20:33, 0:20:35]: So that that motion has been approved. [0:20:36, 0:20:43]: Um, we actually can move directly into I would like a motion to go into executive session. [0:20:43, 0:20:46]: For uh real estate matters. [0:20:46, 0:20:53]: So if we can go ahead and do that, um, I'm not sure it what we need to do and [0:20:53, 0:20:59]: Um Vanessa, what we need to do, but we definitely would have to come off live stream. [0:21:00, 0:21:06]: So that we can discuss real estate matters. You'll receive a second you'll receive an email, which is a separate meeting. [0:21:07, 0:21:08]: Oh. [0:21:08, 0:21:09]: Okay. [0:21:09, 0:21:14]: You need you need to have a motion to go into this. We do need to motion to go in, yes. [0:21:14, 0:21:15]: All right. [0:21:17, 0:21:20]: And who who who was that? Uh councilwoman? [0:21:20, 0:21:21]: Yeah. [0:21:21, 0:21:28]: All right. Thank you. And all uh no discussion. Is there any discussion on that? Who seconded? I'm sorry. [0:21:28, 0:21:29]: Uh Councilwoman Gann. [0:21:30, 0:21:31]: Who motioned? [0:21:32, 0:21:33]: I made a motion. Oh, you shall okay. [0:21:34, 0:21:39]: And all in favor of going into executive session for real estate matters. [0:21:39, 0:21:41]: Uh [0:21:41, 0:21:48]: All right, the board approves. Um, and so we will reconvene in the public space and everyone please mute. [0:21:51, 0:21:52]: Mute. [0:21:54, 0:21:55]: To do [0:22:04, 0:22:07]: Including you, Matt, or I mean you

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2024-05-13 source: 2024-05-13_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:42, 0:00:43]: So [0:01:05, 0:01:11]: So she said it does so uh the things are valuable my desk who things are my desk? [0:01:31, 0:01:47]: Okay, I've been told we're in live. Okay. All right, good deal. All right, ladies and gentlemen. I appreciate you being here. And sorry about my delay, but uh obviously the ceremonial part of our meeting. And uh we have several proclamations uh to read today. [0:01:47, 0:01:52]: And I've been giving my orders so um so we'll start with the public service recognition week. [0:01:52, 0:01:53]: Now um [0:01:54, 0:01:58]: Public service recognition disinvolve our police officers? No. [0:01:58, 0:02:09]: Excuse me? All city workers. Well, all the city workers are here. Come forward please. Every anybody anybody works for the city, come on. Come on up. Come on up. [0:02:20, 0:02:29]: See, that's it's a whole lot of y'all. That's good. That's what makes that's what really makes the city run. All the all the all the employees. They do the all the heavy lifting. [0:02:29, 0:02:30]: All right. [0:02:31, 0:02:51]: Come on, Lisa. Come on, Lisa. Double time. Who? Yes. Dimitri. Superman. All right. Check this out. Good stuff. All right. Public Service Recognition Week, May 5th to May 11th, 2024. Whereas Public Service Recognition Week takes place in [0:02:51, 0:02:55]: in the first week of May and will be held from May fifth to May eleventh this year. [0:02:55, 0:03:00]: Верезев сі єври є снайфа, де ферсвикмей газ бин сетасай. [0:03:00, 0:03:02]: The public service recognition we [0:03:02, 0:03:08]: A time to thank dedicated public servants for federal from the federal, state, local, and governments across the country. [0:03:09, 0:03:27]: Whereas initially public service was considered joining the military to provide security for our people. As cities sit as cities and states formed and grew into empires, the Congress and those who work in education and public service careers. Civil servants ensure government works for the American people. [0:03:27, 0:03:37]: Whereas each day, millions of government employees serve their fellow citizens, and we as a nation recognize a value valuable role they play in the community. [0:03:37, 0:03:48]: It takes thanks to the efforts of public service employees that we are able to go about our daily lives. Now therefore I Anthony S. Ford by Virtual Authority Vested in me as a mayor city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:03:48, 0:04:08]: And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Alana Barber, Cowberry, Lakesa Gantt and Afonso Thomas to hereby recognize May 5th to the 11th, 2024, as Public Service Recognition Week, the great city of Stockbridge. And thank you for your service unto the citizens and the businesses in Stockbridge. Witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand. [0:04:08, 0:04:24]: hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 13th day of May, year of our Lord, 2024. And I signed a proclamation along with the click Vanessa Holliday. And ladies and gentlemen says Vanessa Holiday is standing right next to me. I'm going to issue this to you, man. Thank you, man. [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: A [0:04:29, 0:04:49]: Now now I normally we open it up stores so I anybody and words of wisdom, I mean a whole lot of y'all so I mean hey, conversation, comments, whatever. For me, I just love what I do. I I appreciate everybody here and I thank you, Mayor, for for this, but I love what I do. All right. Anybody else? Sarah? I mean [0:04:48, 0:05:03]: Please help you. Yeah, exactly. I d I just want to say that it's a great organization to work for. Um and we really do love the citizens and as staffers we work for the citizens. So thank you for allowing us to serve you. Okay. Fantastic. Anybody else? [0:05:04, 0:05:24]: I would just like to take the time to say thank you for the work that you do that makes things well. We do the legislative part, but certainly you make it the execution part uh is excellent. So continue to do what you're doing, uh making the city shine. That's right. You do all the heavy lifting. Heavy lifting. [0:05:24, 0:05:32]: Community connects. Okay, absolutely. All right. So we need to take a roof photo there. Okay. All right. Come on over here, ladies. Come on down. Come on down. [0:05:33, 0:05:34]: [334.8, 343.9]: Well, well yeah yeah that is right. Ladies on one s come on, mix come on, come on ladies, come on in here. Come on. Next to these fellas here. [0:05:44, 0:05:45]: All right. [0:05:46, 0:06:00]: Come on, come on, come on. Just foot on down. Yeah, let's sit out. On this side? Okay. Come on. Alright, you good? Come on, come on. Right here. Alright. You got it? [0:06:01, 0:06:02]: Yeah, we stripped it out. [0:06:04, 0:06:08]: Yeah, but I need the getting fired. [0:06:13, 0:06:16]: Easy. Um three one, two, snap. [0:06:20, 0:06:34]: Demetrius, come in. It's for all employees. Okay. Is somebody else coming? No, no, no. It's for all employees. Rosma? Come on. Exactly. [0:06:35, 0:06:44]: Juwan hiding back here too. I see him. He's not going black hair. Okay. Okay. [0:06:45, 0:06:47]: And I like that. [0:06:49, 0:06:49]: Yeah. [0:06:54, 0:06:57]: All right, thank you very much. Appreciate you. [0:06:57, 0:07:00]: Thank you, thank you, thank you. [0:07:05, 0:07:07]: Those those building pump to the south of this. [0:07:10, 0:07:15]: Well I I did that and and actually what's up next is Professional Municipal Clerks Week. [0:07:16, 0:07:19]: So clerk's office, come on back up. [0:07:21, 0:07:22]: Nothing. Okay. [0:07:26, 0:07:29]: You're missing. [0:07:32, 0:07:40]: This next proclamation is a professional municipal clerk's re week, May fifth to May eleventh, twenty twenty four. [0:07:40, 0:07:51]: Whereas the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk is a time honored by a vital part of the local government that exists throughout the world. Whereas the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk is the oldest among public servants. [0:07:51, 0:08:05]: Whereas the Office of Professional Municipal Clerks provides a professional link between the citizens, the local governing bodies, and the agencies of the government at other levels. And whereas professional municipal clerks have pledged to be the ever mindful of their neutrality. [0:08:05, 0:08:08]: and impartiality rendering equal service to all. [0:08:08, 0:08:28]: Whereas the professional municipal clerk serves as an information center on functions of local government and community. Whereas professional municipal clerks continue to strive to improve the administration and law affairs of the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk through participation in educational programs, seminars, workshops, and the annual meeting of their state provisional contract. [0:08:28, 0:08:48]: country and international professional organizations and whereas it is most appropriate that we recognize the accomplishments of the office of professional municipal clerk. Now therefore I Anthony S. Ford by virtual authority vessel in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. On behalf of City Council members and Lana Barber, Kyle, Berry, Lakisha Gantt and Fonsel Thomas who hereby recognize a week [0:08:48, 0:09:01]: on May fifty eleventh, twenty twenty-four as Professional Municipal Clerks Week, and further extend the appreciation to our professional municipal clerk and members of the clerk's office team for the vital services to perform their experimentary dedication and to the Stockbridge community. [0:09:02, 0:09:08]: And witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand and great seal the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the thirteenth day of May, year of our Lord. [0:09:08, 0:09:15]: Twenty twenty four and I signed this along with a clerk Vanessa Holiday once again. Okay. [0:09:17, 0:09:18]: Yeah. [0:09:18, 0:09:30]: Again, I love what I do. I appreciate this mayor, but I want to extend this to the newest member of our team. We have an amazing team. We it's a lot of work, but we love we love it. [0:09:30, 0:09:31]: And I want to [0:09:32, 0:09:35]: Give this to you, Cassandra. She's the newest member of our team. [0:09:37, 0:09:57]: Speech, speech, speech. Speech speech. I think Shana summed it up better. It's just my privilege to be able to serve and to extend my talents to the uh service of this of the city. Thank you all so much. We're taking another picture. Yes, sir. Okay. Ladies, would you come on over, please? [0:09:57, 0:10:08]: Uh you gotta move a little bit down that way in a minute. No, I'm I'm fine, I'm fine right here. I need to do it on a balance it out. Come up sound please thank you. [0:10:21, 0:10:23]: Thank you. Thank you. All righty. [0:10:29, 0:10:32]: Thank you. [0:10:33, 0:10:37]: Mr Aaron, sir, come on up please. [0:10:43, 0:10:50]: Oh I'm sorry. I should have mentioned your name. Come on gentlemen, come on this side. What on this side please. [0:10:52, 0:10:57]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna honor National Public Works Week and um [0:10:57, 0:11:00]: We have the public works director and his uh assistant. [0:11:02, 0:11:03]: Yeah. Fucking [0:11:04, 0:11:08]: God takes care of all the business. All right. [0:11:08, 0:11:28]: Whereas public service, excuse me, public works professionals focus on infrastructure facilities and services that are of vital importance to sustainable and resilient communities and to the public health, high quality of life, well-being of the people of the city of Stockbridge. And whereas these infrastructure facilities and services could not be provided without the dedicated efforts of public works professionals, [0:11:28, 0:11:43]: engineers, managers, employees at all levels of government and the private sector, who are responsible for rebuilding, improving, protecting our nation's transportation, water supply, water treatment, and solid waste systems, public buildings, and other structures and facilities essential to our s for our citizens. [0:11:43, 0:12:03]: Whereas in the public interest of the citizens, civic leaders, and children in the city of Stockbridge to gain knowledge of and maintain an ongoing interest in understanding the importance of public works and public works programs, their respective communities. And whereas in the year 2024, Mars the 64th Annual National Public Works sponsored, well, Works Week sponsored by the American Public Works [0:12:03, 0:12:08]: Public Works Association, Canada Public Works Association be in now. [0:12:09, 0:12:17]: Therefore, I Anthony Sword, by virtue of authority, vested in me as the mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Ilano, Barber Cowberry. [0:12:17, 0:12:37]: Lakeisa Gann and Fonzo Thomas do hereby designate the week of May 19th to 25th, 2024 as National Public Works Week. I urge all citizens to join with representatives of the American Public Works Association, government agencies in activities, events, ceremonies designated to pay tribute to our public works professionals, engineers, managers, employees, and to recognize the sustainable. [0:12:37, 0:12:43]: sustainable contributions they make in protecting our national health, safety, and advancing quality of life for all. [0:12:43, 0:12:57]: In witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the thirteenth day of May of our year year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty-four. And once again I signed the proclamation along with a clerk with us all day. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate you. [0:13:02, 0:13:13]: Words? Any words? Uh thank you, Mayor Ford. I just say it's great to have a great team that allows you to do things. So I'm really proud of the guys that serve in the public works department. [0:13:15, 0:13:15]: Yeah. [0:13:19, 0:13:27]: On behalf of Public Works, we like to thank the city for acknowledging us and we like to just continue doing a good job for the citizens. Thank you. All right. [0:13:30, 0:13:50]: We can do all the heavy lifting. I would like to say that these gentlemen have done an amazing job in the city. They really have come up and stepped up for us. They've allowed us to raise the bar in the city. The work that you see out here along East Atlanta Road and the roadways. They do [0:13:50, 0:13:55]: that they do that work. Not the so sexy work, but they get it done to make us look good. [0:13:55, 0:13:56]: Appreciate you. Absolutely. [0:14:00, 0:14:05]: When what we haven't taken for that's right. [0:14:09, 0:14:13]: Congrats. [0:14:15, 0:14:22]: All right. We got National Police Week. So our chief and your your officers please. [0:14:22, 0:14:25]: Sabris finus, the serve and protect. [0:14:26, 0:14:27]: At all times. [0:14:29, 0:14:33]: Ladies and gentlemen, we have our two year anniversary coming one July twenty twenty four. [0:14:34, 0:14:37]: So very proud days. Come on, come on aside, please. [0:14:40, 0:14:46]: Ladies and gentlemen, Chief. Yes sir. All right, right here. Yeah, just sir be fine. Absolutely. [0:14:47, 0:14:51]: All right. National Police Week, May twelfth to May eighteenth, twenty twenty four. [0:14:52, 0:15:00]: Whereas in na during national police week, we take time to honor the men and women in law enforcement who put their lives on the line every day to keep community safe. [0:15:00, 0:15:05]: And whereas the week long recognition coincides with National Peace Officers Memorial Day, which is May fifteenth. [0:15:06, 0:15:07]: That is Wednesday. [0:15:07, 0:15:12]: And serves as a solemn occasion to pay tribute to the memory of law enforcement officers who have lost their lives in the line of duty. [0:15:13, 0:15:33]: And to honor their enduring legacy, and courage, valor, and service. Whereas the city of Stockbridge recognizes the invaluable contributions of law enforcement officers to our community and acknowledge their integral role in fostering a safe, just, and inclusive society for all residents. Whereas each year during this week, tens of thousands of law enforcement officers travel to Washington D.C. to remember those who lost their lives. [0:15:33, 0:15:34]: Yeah. [0:15:34, 0:15:54]: Now therefore our Anthony S. Ford, Mayor of City Stopbury by Virtual Authority, Vester and Me, Georgia, Stopbury's Georgia, on behalf of City Council members Hilton, Alexander, Nilanda, Barber, Cowberry, LakeshaGantt, and Fonzo Thomas, who hereby recognize the week of May 12th to 18th, 2024, as National Police Week in our city. We call upon our residents to join in honoring the law enforcement officers. [0:15:54, 0:15:58]: expressing gratitude for their dedication and recognizing their sacrifices. [0:15:58, 0:15:59]: A witness hereof. [0:16:00, 0:16:12]: Excuse me, and witness whereof, I here I have hereunto set my hand of Grace Seal City, Stockbridge, Georgia, on the thirteenth day of May, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty-four. And I signed a proclamation along with our cliff for that's a holiday. [0:16:15, 0:16:15]: Yeah. [0:16:19, 0:16:33]: This is a uh rather solemn uh proclamation. Um it honors the officers who've uh paid the ultimate sacrifice in serving our community. The work that these men and women do uh each and every day. Um [0:16:33, 0:16:37]: I think at times can often be uh thankless and underappreciated. Um [0:16:38, 0:16:58]: And we have to understand and realize that um our our brave men and women who are out there serving our community, that every time they leave their homes, uh they and their families don't necessarily know whether or not they're gonna return home at the end of the day. Uh we all have lost loved ones in the line of duty, close friends, and um this is a uh solemn reminder. [0:16:57, 0:16:59]: [1019.9, 1028.1]: uh important work but very perilous work that our law enforcement professionals do. Just this year alone we've lost fifty eight law enforcement officers in the line of duty. [0:17:08, 0:17:26]: for here in our uh state of Georgia. And uh so this is in uh remembrance of all those who have served. There's scripture that says there's no love greater than this, uh, that one man lay down a knife their life for another. And I believe that um that's what these brave men and women do each and every day and we're thankful for them and their service. So thank you for this honor. [0:17:26, 0:17:27]: No problem. No problem. [0:17:32, 0:17:34]: Okay. [0:17:35, 0:17:38]: We might have to double up a little bit. [0:17:40, 0:17:41]: Okay. [0:17:45, 0:17:48]: Chief said that oh I appreciate everything they do. [0:17:53, 0:18:04]: Okay, thank you. All right. Fantastic. Thanks, thanks. Appreciate the one. [0:18:05, 0:18:08]: I can tell you all right. [0:18:13, 0:18:15]: Excuse me, Vanessa, could you come in please? [0:18:19, 0:18:22]: Stand by for a second. Let me re good do something here. [0:18:51, 0:18:51]: No problem. [0:18:52, 0:19:12]: We do. All right. This one, uh, this next proclamation deals with uh national cities, towns, and villages month. And so this will involve uh myself alone our council members, and I believe this is all of us are here at this point. This is whereas the National League of Cities was founded in 1924 in Lawrence, Kansas, as an American Municipal Association. [0:19:12, 0:19:19]: By the state municipal leads seeking more contribution and national representation as cities, towns, and villages expand rapidly. [0:19:20, 0:19:31]: Whereas the nonpartisan National League of Cities is the oldest and largest organization representing municipal governments throughout the United States, representing the interests of more than 19,000 cities, towns, villages across our nation. [0:19:31, 0:19:32]: I'm country. [0:19:32, 0:19:46]: Whereas today the National Leader Cities works in partnership with 90 state municipal leads across the country and strengthen local leadership, drive innovation, and influence with federal policies and impact local programs and operations. [0:19:47, 0:20:07]: And whereas the voice of cities, towns, and villages in Washington D.C., the National League of Cities has successfully championed federal legislative solutions that support municipalities and has worked closely with Congress and executive branches to educate policymakers on the realities of local implementation. And whereas the City of Stockbridge is a proud member of the National Leader Cities. [0:20:07, 0:20:27]: And has benefited from the organizational research, technical expertise, federal advocacy, opportunities to learn from other local governments. Local governments, whereas local governments are the bedrock of American democracy, providing 360, excuse me, 336 million residents with most accountable, representative, responsible, inclusive, ethical, and transparent government. [0:20:27, 0:20:28]: government in the world. [0:20:28, 0:20:38]: And whereas uh from the nation's smallest villages to the largest cities, America's local governments have been essential in transforming the United States of America into the greatest, most influential nation in the world. [0:20:38, 0:20:58]: And world history, whereas the city of Starbase was first incorporated in 1920 and probably served today by Mayor Anthony S. Ford, Council Members Elton Alexander, Ilana Barber, Kyle Berry, Nokisha Gantt, Fonzo Thomas, and the municipal workforce of 100 plus dedicated public service. Now, therefore, I let it be resolved that the city of Starbase hereby proclaims May 2024 as a national. [0:20:58, 0:21:18]: cities, towns, villages of month, uh in celebration of America's local governments and the National League of Cities Historical Centennial Anniversary. And witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of the city, Stockbridge, Georgia, the 13th day of the year of our Lord, 2024, and I signed a course a proclamation along with our Clear Vanessa Holiday, ladies and gentlemen. [0:21:18, 0:21:20]: [1282.4, 1284.1]: Yes. [0:21:26, 0:21:30]: Yeah, you got the buying guys. [0:21:34, 0:21:54]: Congratulations. Just really excited about uh being a part of such a great city and the National League of Cities and all the work that we've done over the last uh few years to be a part of that organization. Uh the things that I've learned in my first term uh going [0:21:54, 0:22:10]: going out to the uh the conferences and things of that nature really have opened my mind and my insight to uh see all the great works that is still yet to do. I'm excited about it. So thank you. Thank you sir. No problem. Thank you for sharing anytime. [0:22:11, 0:22:15]: Which one is that? This is mental health awareness month. [0:22:16, 0:22:17]: Okay. [0:22:18, 0:22:24]: How you doing? All right. All righty. Why don't you want you we want to come on this side, please? Yes, sir. [0:22:28, 0:22:32]: Thank you very much. Okay, proclamation City Stockbridge Recognition Mental Health Awareness Month. [0:22:33, 0:22:53]: Whereas May is Mental Health Awareness Month, the National Observance, started in 1949 by the Mental Health America to bring attention to the importance of mental health and mental well-being. And whereas it's a month of well-worth acknowledging mental illness impacts the lives of millions of individuals every day, we can use this time to have open mental health discussions to better. [0:22:53, 0:22:57]: our education and understanding of mental health in all these forms. [0:22:57, 0:23:17]: And whereas across the country, individuals and organizations step up to rise awareness raise awareness of and help address the challenges faced by people living with mental health conditions. And whereas the area of excuse me, whereas the area that someone lives in plays a significant role in their overall health and well-being, having safe, stable, and healthy home conditions. [0:23:17, 0:23:37]: Set the foundation for achieving a main and achieving and maintaining good mental health. Whereas with early and effective interventions, those individuals with mental health conditions can recover and lead full productive lives. Whereas each business, school, government, agency, health care provider, organization, cities, and citizens share the burden of mental health problems as a responsibility. [0:23:37, 0:23:57]: promote mental wellness and support prevention efforts. Now therefore I Anthony Sforber, Virtual Authority, Vesting Means and Mayor City of Stockbridge, Georgia, on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander Lana, Barber Cowberry, Lakeisha Gannon and Afonso Thomas to proclaim May 2024 as May uh excuse me, Mental Health Awareness Month. Call upon assistance [0:23:57, 0:24:01]: business, government agencies, public and private institutions, businesses and schools and stockridges, [0:24:01, 0:24:05]: To recommit our community to increase awareness, understanding, mental health. [0:24:05, 0:24:09]: The steps our citizens can take to provide excuse me to protect their mental [0:24:09, 0:24:29]: Health and need the need for appropriate and s and accessible services for all people with mental health conditions. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on thirteenth day of May year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty-four. And of course I myself and our Cliff Vanessa holiday signed the proclamation. [0:24:29, 0:24:30]: Yeah. [0:24:32, 0:24:33]: In the comments, please. [0:24:35, 0:24:53]: I just wanna say thank you and mental health is a growing issue in our country, um, and in our cities all around, and it's very important that we start recognizing the issues at hand. Thank you again. [0:24:55, 0:24:58]: I don't know if it's not a good one. [0:25:05, 0:25:10]: Thank you. [0:25:13, 0:25:18]: This next proclamation, National Asian American and Pacific Island Heritage Month. [0:25:20, 0:25:28]: And I want you to know, ladies and gentlemen, we're I think we set a record tonight, the amount of proclamations and the and and things that we've done in one city. [0:25:28, 0:25:29]: So [0:25:30, 0:25:32]: [1532.9, 1552.9]: Come on over here, please. Right. Okay. Whereas the Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage Month is a month to celebrate and pay tribute to the contributions of Asian Pacific Americans to American history, society, and culture. And whereas in 1978, Congress passed a joint congressional resolution to commemorate Asian American [0:25:52, 0:26:12]: Here this week during the first week of May, because of two important anniversaries the arrival of the first Japanese immigrants in America on May 7th, 1843, and the completion of the Transcontinental Railroad by many Chinese laborers on May 10th, 1869. In 1990, this week was later expanded into a month long celebration Asian American and Pacific. [0:26:12, 0:26:32]: Pacific Islander Heritage Month is a celebration of culture, traditions, history, and Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders in the United States. Whereas more than 24 million people in the United States identify as Asian, and with 1.8 million identifying as native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander, or a combination. These diverse communities have enriched this country in generations to come. Whereas during the month, [0:26:32, 0:26:52]: Month of May, we encourage everyone to reflect on Asian American resilience, particularly against the alarming rise of hate crimes that we have seen in recent years. Now the now, therefore, I am Anthony Sfor, by Versus Authority Vested in me, as the mayor of City Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elvin Alexander Alonda, Barber Cowberry, Lake Sagan, Afonso Thomas, to hereby proclaim May 2024 as [0:26:52, 0:27:12]: Asian American and Islander Heritage Month. We call upon the people of the Stockbridge Community to learn more about the local artists, expand their playlists and find inspirations, inspiration to celebrate Asian Pacific American heritage throughout the month of May and beyond. And witness thereof, I have here hereunto set my hand the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. On this it's on the second [0:27:12, 0:27:18]: Sunday in May, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty-four, and I signed this along with uh our clerk Vanessa Holiday. So [0:27:20, 0:27:22]: And do you agree? [0:27:23, 0:27:43]: I really thank the city of Stockbridge for this uh appreciation. I'm practicing in uh Stockbridge for the past twenty years as a physician. I'm proud to do so. I would like to continue that and this is uh not only for me, for the entire people who came this country with a big dreams. [0:27:43, 0:27:48]: and uh how proud we are to achieve all those dreams. Thank you very much. [0:27:49, 0:28:09]: Yes, you don't. Yeah, I'd like to thank Dr. Chetty and his team. They invited me out to speak at uh their event, Gothic Georgia Association, the Physicians of Indian Heritage. They are a magnificent organization giving back charitable giving and medical care for the community. So thank you so much for that. [0:28:09, 0:28:19]: Yeah, thanks for coming. [0:28:24, 0:28:35]: Absolutely. Thank you, sir. Because appreciate thank you sir. We're gonna work on that medical care right here. They got a free clinic in everything. [0:28:45, 0:29:05]: Since uh since most gracious ladies Alpha Cap Sword Incorporated been in my life ever since I've been in college. Swept me on my feet. So much so I I married in the UK, right? Check it out. I couldn't I'm gonna help it, right? You ladies and dumb mean. Hey so it's great. Love you all. Fantastic. Sorry to know. [0:29:05, 0:29:12]: No, you ready for us to come up? Yeah, but yes I am. I'm sorry, running my mom. Come on up, bud. Come on up, ladies. So we uh [0:29:12, 0:29:17]: This special dedication here, Adoptor Row program. Okay, so um [0:29:17, 0:29:37]: Okay, so I'm not sure exactly where is this gonna I have to admit, I'm not sure exactly where is this gonna go. So we're gonna well we'll we'll we'll go down here so we can hold it and we can take some great pictures and we have it unveil them outside. It's already oh okay. Mr. Aaron works over. Yeah he he over there. You you've gotta come he's the middle place. [0:29:37, 0:29:52]: Oh should we get on here so we can side right here? I mean it's so if we hold it. Okay, if you want to hold it. Yeah, we can hold it. Okay, you wanna hold it? Yeah, that way it's fine. Okay, okay. Okay. Ladies, come on in. I don't know which side. Okay, we got where's [0:30:43, 0:30:53]: Okay, that's on glad to have y'all tonight. This is amazing. [0:31:05, 0:31:06]: Okay. [0:31:09, 0:31:19]: Yeah, we'll need to talk about it. Okay, but that's that we're going to be able to do it. [0:31:22, 0:31:25]: I have another remote. [0:31:55, 0:31:58]: [1936.7, 1940.2]: But I'm gonna say [0:32:30, 0:32:40]: That's awesome. [0:32:42, 0:32:45]: No, I said. [0:32:46, 0:32:55]: Oh yeah, you do that, do that, tell me about it. You should have been here, don't you? [0:33:55, 0:33:56]: Yeah, yeah. [0:33:58, 0:33:59]: Yeah. [0:34:04, 0:34:05]: Yeah, yeah. [0:34:25, 0:34:26]: Yeah, it's just weird. [0:34:27, 0:34:30]: I won't uh scared my own. [0:34:55, 0:34:57]: But attach this everything grab it. [0:35:05, 0:35:05]: Okay. [0:35:08, 0:35:10]: You're really seeing the detail. [0:35:33, 0:35:34]: Yeah, that's it. [0:35:35, 0:35:48]: I've heard nails about it. Fingers. Sure, sure. I'm more confident that's so fingers crossed as well. [0:35:50, 0:35:52]: That's our [0:35:57, 0:36:03]: Yeah, it's not. [0:36:11, 0:36:16]: Otherwise, this is your photo and [0:36:17, 0:36:22]: I have my buttons. [0:36:24, 0:36:26]: Oh no. [0:36:27, 0:36:30]: Oh yeah, I don't feel funny. [0:36:31, 0:36:34]: [2200.0, 2201.2]: Well, [0:36:41, 0:36:43]: Rapids right. [0:36:51, 0:36:54]: [2225.4, 2229.5]: [0:37:43, 0:37:45]: Thank you, Mr. [0:37:55, 0:38:02]: Yeah, she has to look as well. [0:38:45, 0:38:47]: [2329.0, 2330.6]: [0:38:51, 0:38:52]: Yeah. [0:40:14, 0:40:15]: How water you want. [0:41:09, 0:41:10]: Yeah. [0:41:28, 0:41:29]: Test test it. [0:42:07, 0:42:09]: But now. [0:42:11, 0:42:15]: That's fine. [0:42:26, 0:42:27]: Yeah. [0:42:30, 0:42:30]: Yeah, yeah. [0:42:45, 0:42:47]: [2568.2, 2573.9]: Thank you. [0:44:24, 0:44:25]: Yeah. [0:44:33, 0:44:35]: No, it isn't. [0:44:35, 0:44:37]: [2685.1, 2688.4]: [0:45:15, 0:45:17]: All right, Council, we need to get started with our meeting, please. [0:45:20, 0:45:26]: Mr. Garden. Clark is out. [0:45:26, 0:45:31]: Yeah, we we we have time to do that right now. Okay. [0:45:40, 0:45:50]: We are mad of it, we are we're all on we're on? Okay. All right. Uh that uh okay. I don't know, she's kinda noise here. [0:45:55, 0:46:15]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, get started with our council meeting. Um it is now 6 05 and I'd like to call our council uh meeting uh to order. Um May 13th, um 2024. The invocation, um Miss Kedra Jackson, please come forward to the mic. Everybody stand if you're able to stand. [0:46:18, 0:46:18]: Mm-hmm. [0:46:24, 0:46:44]: I pray for this council meeting tonight, give the council members wisdom and guidance as they deliberate on the items before them. May every decision be righteous in your sight, for our benefit and for your glory. In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Father. [0:46:44, 0:46:46]: Amen. [0:46:47, 0:47:00]: For a pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic for which stands one nation, one to God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:47:02, 0:47:03]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:47:08, 0:47:09]: Present. [0:47:13, 0:47:13]: President. [0:47:16, 0:47:17]: Present. [0:47:20, 0:47:22]: Mayor Ford, you have a court. [0:47:22, 0:47:24]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. [0:47:24, 0:47:35]: Um, Mr. Berry, if you can do this as well as this, sir, if you don't mind. Thank you. I need for you, Mr. Berry, if you don't, to make the amendment to the agenda for this evening, please. [0:47:37, 0:47:37]: Yeah. [0:47:38, 0:47:52]: Uh we have on the floor item number seven, rezoning RZ-2023-05 on the agenda will not be heard tonight. The applicant has requested a deferral. [0:47:52, 0:47:55]: To have the item heard at the june tenth. [0:47:56, 0:48:03]: Two thousand twenty four council meeting, June tenth. Is there a second to that motion? I second. Is there all all in favor, please indicate? [0:48:04, 0:48:24]: Announced decision. Thank you very much. Go ahead, Mr. Berry, please. Second one, we would like to uh make note that item number six on tonight's agenda, CP-2023-04 would not be heard tonight because the applicant no longer requires a comprehensive plan amendment due to the recent 2024. [0:48:24, 0:48:33]: City of Stockbridge Comprehensive Plan Update where the density rates were amended. As a request, the applicant's project now meets the required density rate. [0:48:34, 0:48:35]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:48:37, 0:48:39]: Is there a second to that motion? Sir. Yes, sir. [0:48:41, 0:48:43]: [2923.6, 2931.7]: We don't need discussion right now because we get into it, but but uh l looking for a second to the motion, please. That's it, second. Okay, I'm sorry, excuse me. So sorry, excuse me. All in favor, please indicate. [0:48:52, 0:48:53]: Opposed. [0:48:53, 0:49:02]: I'm gonna abstain because I need staff to explain. Okay. Zero four zero one motion passes. Thank you very much. But staff didn't explain this. [0:49:03, 0:49:04]: Okay. [0:49:05, 0:49:12]: We the motion's passed. We're gonna we're gonna move on at this point. Thank you. All right. Now any motion to adopt the rest of the agenda for this evening. [0:49:14, 0:49:20]: Some over Mr. Berry, is there a second? I second. Mayor Ford. Uh uh Miss Gantt, uh second that. Okay. [0:49:21, 0:49:22]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:49:23, 0:49:43]: Okay, we are moving on. We've uh we're moving on with the agenda. Rest of the agenda has been passed unanimously. What we have before us are the adoption of the minutes. I mean, she got it. Okay, got enough? Okay. Adoption of the minutes for uh April 8th, 2024, the council meeting minutes, April 25th. [0:49:43, 0:49:50]: Special call meeting minutes, April 30th, the work session meeting minutes, April 13th, Joint Council DDA Main Street meeting minutes. [0:49:51, 0:50:03]: Uh I need a motion to adopt those uh minutes into the record, please. Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion to approve all the meeting minutes with an amendment to the April 8th council meeting. [0:50:03, 0:50:08]: To include an amendment to add the installation of free parking signs. [0:50:10, 0:50:11]: The installation of parking signs? [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: Is that what you're saying? [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: I want to make a motion. [0:50:19, 0:50:24]: to adopt all of the meeting minutes with the exception of April eighth. [0:50:25, 0:50:27]: I'm only asking that an amendment be made. [0:50:28, 0:50:29]: To those minutes. [0:50:30, 0:50:32]: to include the discussion in directives. [0:50:34, 0:50:36]: To install free parking signs. [0:50:37, 0:50:39]: Is the free part and starts involving the amphitheater? [0:50:42, 0:50:55]: Mayor Ford. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Um stand by Mr. Thomas. Uh the attorney. Uh can we do that amendment on this on this particular uh item at this point? Can we legally do that? [0:50:58, 0:51:05]: All right. G so peaks. All right, mister Mr. Thomas Quinn. Um I'm am I understanding that the motion [0:51:06, 0:51:15]: is to include the language because it is omitted in the minutes. Is is that the understanding? That is correct. Okay. [0:51:16, 0:51:20]: На фінат бесед, і вас дискус. [0:51:21, 0:51:22]: And omit it. [0:51:22, 0:51:28]: uh in the minutes from my understanding that the motion is indicating that [0:51:28, 0:51:35]: Um councilwoman, I don't want to speak for her, but she is approving the minutes, but this is an omission. [0:51:35, 0:51:55]: Okay. Something we already proved. Correction. Okay. I got it. She she's indicating it doesn't need to be a correction. Okay, okay. I got that. Understand that now. Appreciate it. Yes, Ms. Gantt. Thank you. Um on the Monday, April eighth meeting, um, if I could it says executive session that I wasn't present. I actually was present in the executive session, but I um [0:51:55, 0:52:08]: recuse myself excuse myself so I w want that in there. Oftentimes it looks like I'm just not present, but I have a reason for not being present. So I want that listed in there as well. [0:52:09, 0:52:17]: All right. So but you you mentioned that but I but the motion with original motions with Miss uh Miss Barber. Miss Barber you all right with that particular addition to that motion? [0:52:18, 0:52:34]: It's another correction. It's another well it is another correction. That's true, but that's true. But I just wanna she made it. Okay, thank you very much. You're right. Okay. Uh Madam Clerk, you have both of those? Okay. That's been the motion's been made and and and seconded. Was who seconded that motion? Anybody second the motion? [0:52:35, 0:52:37]: I need a second to the motion, please. [0:52:38, 0:52:40]: I second. Okay, Ms. Gantt second. All in favor, please indicate. [0:52:41, 0:52:46]: Uh okay, thank you very much. All right. Um, Madam Clerk, we have any public comments at all? [0:52:48, 0:52:49]: Okay. [0:52:51, 0:52:53]: Who is that and we she needs to come forward? [0:52:59, 0:53:05]: Ma'am, right here at the mic, the mic should be on. Give your name and address and and go ahead with your comments. We'll give you three minutes for your comments, okay? [0:53:06, 0:53:06]: Yes, yeah. [0:53:13, 0:53:14]: Thank you very much. [0:53:15, 0:53:35]: I have a my question is, um, we received a letter from Keller and Williams about uh tax allocation district. I need a little bit of clarity on that body. The city's talk reboxed and go into like multiple, you know, the area I know how to split apitheater and that area back there. And I'm [0:53:35, 0:53:40]: concern my husband and I but we recently uh moved to start reaching [0:53:43, 0:54:03]: Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was on. We received I talk a lot. We received this letter and w I just need a little bit of clarity about it. About are they planning to do multi they say our s our area has been um looking at our area for multi use purposes. Okay, we're talking about tax allocation distance. Tax allocation. [0:54:03, 0:54:08]: District for the uh Sarissa Drive up in that area. [0:54:08, 0:54:11]: A y okay, you gonna take care of this, sir? [0:54:11, 0:54:15]: Okay. Ma'am, if you don't mind, Mr. Gardner, city manager will take care of this answer this question for you. [0:54:21, 0:54:41]: Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. All right. On that note, uh we ladies and gentlemen, we had a uh ceremonial um process uh that occurred prior to uh the meeting this evening. There were several different proclamations. I'd like to go through those uh in this aspect. We we went through a proclamation for national cities. Um [0:54:40, 0:55:00]: City of Stockbridge is a member of the National Cities uh National League of Cities, Towns and Villages Month, May of Month and is celebrating one hundred years of the establishment of the National League of Cities. So we had a proclamation for that as well. Georgia Municipal uh Georgia's Professional Municipal Clerk Week. We honored our clerk uh Vanessa Holliday and her staff in reference to all the [0:55:00, 0:55:20]: things that they do for the city. You also had a public service recognition week proclamation and I believe Wednesday is Peace Officers Day. This is also to recognize and and honor our police officers and our police staff here in the city of Stockbridge and police officers and people public service in that aspect around the nation, around the state, around the nation there. [0:55:20, 0:55:40]: We also had a proclamation dealing with National Public Works Week and allowing uh in this aspect in an honoring, I'm so say, our Public Works Department. And uh our director, Dash Aaron and his staff, and all the great work that they do uh in the city itself and all the heavy lifting they do. We also had a proclamation for Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage. [0:55:40, 0:56:00]: month and for that we had a a local doctor uh Ryo S. Uh Chia, if I gotta pronounce right, who has a who has a practice here in the city of Stopbury's been around for twenty years and he was able to receive that proclamation for yes sir. Yeah doc uh Dr. Chetty. Chetty Chetty Chetty. Okay, Chetty. Thank you very much for that um uh [0:56:00, 0:56:20]: Annunciation there. And um so and we also had a um a mental health aw uh mental health awareness month and that uh also awareness in that aspect. And we had uh uh Miss Kiana Norman that will receive that proclamation for Mental Health Awareness Month and she gave a words of wisdom about the aspect that we need to be aware of this and [0:56:20, 0:56:37]: assist and and help uh mental health folks and and and work together to try to make it a better for those individuals that they live in this community. Um National Police Week proclamation, once again for our police department, we honor them as well. And Chief Tramor received that proclamation along with his staff. [0:56:37, 0:56:57]: They were present. And then we had a presentation of Dr. Road sign, which is East Atlanta Road. It comes right in front of um Star City Hall. And that was Alpha Cap Alpha Sawardi Incorporated, Psi Alpha Omega chapter. And as you approach uh City Hall and you're going uh north on on on East Atlanta, you'll see that particular uh document of of Dr. Road. [0:56:57, 0:57:17]: uh process so thank those ladies of uh cy Alpha Omega Alpha Calf Alp Sorority Incorporated for being here and uh for that as well. And on that note I don't know if if Ms. Gantt do you want any additional comments since you are a member of that s wonderful sorority. Do you have any other comments? Um no I I just want to thank uh Sci Alpha Omega that's a Henry Clayton County chapter local [0:57:17, 0:57:20]: [3440.4, 3445.0]: In the city of Stockbridge and in Henry and Clayton County, they've done a lot of things. [0:57:25, 0:57:28]: And um they've added this to the list, uh, adopting a road. [0:57:29, 0:57:49]: Uh we commend them for doing my sorority for commend uh I'm commending them for doing such. So yes, thank you. Thank you. On that note we'll go to unfinished business, council consideration to approve the city of Stockbridge twenty twenty-four to twenty twenty short-term work program, capital improvements uh element, STWP dash uh slash [0:57:49, 0:58:09]: C I amendment required and due to state uh mandate ver revision. Mr. Ryan Anderson, sir, please. Good evening, Mayor Council. Back in um November, Council approved for us to transmit the short-term work program CIP to ARC. The ARC uh submitted [0:58:09, 0:58:26]: our short-term work program to other state agencies and um local municipalities and we've got final approval uh in April of this year and uh staff is just coming back to you to ask you to reapprove uh the the short-term work program CIE. [0:58:26, 0:58:46]: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Ryan. Questions, Council? Mr. Azam, you got a question? Please, sir. I think it's so important for folks to understand that the city is operating under a plan. So to talk about some of the the programs that uh or projects that are included in the work program, so folks know that we're operating systems. [0:58:46, 0:59:06]: systematically on approved projects that the city is working on to take off a list to to complete like downtown our LCI program and throughout the city. So be a little bit specific about some of the projects like the Youth Senior Center and the Cultural Arts Center, that kind of thing. Yes, sir. We got uh one of the um this is kind of like I was [0:59:06, 0:59:26]: Dream list. Um all the projects may or not may not may or may not be fully funded, but we want to have a splash pad. Um we are well we approved the Stockbridge electric vehicle stations at the amphitheater. That would that was that was once on the list that it's been approved. Monument sign for City Hall Fountain, multi-purpose. [0:59:26, 0:59:41]: facility for youths and seniors, a cultural arts center, water s supply source development, GIS infrastructure infant inventory and detail imagery, sewer infiltration and inflow study. [0:59:41, 0:59:45]: All that totals twenty nine million one hundred and seventy nine thousand dollars. [0:59:46, 0:59:58]: Uh as far as economic development, we want we want to create a citywide marketing plan, establish the Stockbridge Association of Business, create a economic development market plan, which we've done, Opportunity Zone Designation Study. [0:59:59, 1:00:19]: Far as land use, we got a trail implementation. It runs from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty five. We updated the comprehensive plan. The overlay district designation, we've done that, but it need to but we need to continue working on it. Uh LCI impl implementation and uh update supplemental study. It's ongoing. Uh estimated costs a hundred and fifty thousand. Uh [1:00:19, 1:00:23]: A park plan which we've done and update of the sign ordinance. [1:00:25, 1:00:26]: Uh some are uh I I'll [1:00:27, 1:00:29]: Identifiable um [1:00:30, 1:00:46]: Transportation project, roadway construction, engineering and right-of-way acquisition, sidewalk repair and reconstruction, road improvements and city projects and streets, infrastructure improvement for city projects and uh the downtown pit and bike study, which we completed this past fall. [1:00:47, 1:00:50]: So that's just an example of some of the projects we have. [1:00:50, 1:00:54]: Um and here's a list of our completed projects on this page right here. [1:00:56, 1:01:16]: So it's basically a um a dream list of some of our most needed projects. Some of them are funded and some of them aren't. But these are the projects that we will prioritize going forward. And they've been identified in this short-term work program. So to understand how this works, the amphitheater was one of these projects that was completed, right? Yes, sir. The public works facility was one of these projects. [1:01:16, 1:01:30]: of these projects that were completed. So we're working off of this list. So if citizens want to refer to what's coming in the city and what the plan is, they can refer to this list, correct? Exactly. Yes, sir. All right. Thank you. All right. Questions for Mr. Go ahead, Miss Barber. [1:01:31, 1:01:50]: The electric charging stations. I thought that project was already completed. Yes, we still list the projects. I mean they're put on a list like uh this runs to twenty twenty eight and it was completed uh last year, but it was is is it'll still shows up on the list and it goes under our completed projects. But it's showing as in progress. [1:01:54, 1:01:56]: On page two, number two. [1:01:59, 1:02:13]: Yeah, we'll just have to move it uh when we do the up since we started on this last year, uh we just now getting the approval. So when we update it in the fall, we'll move it to completed projects. When we update when we do the f uh the update this fall, it will be moved to completed projects. [1:02:15, 1:02:16]: You don't need to change it now. [1:02:17, 1:02:20]: Change it now. You don't need to change it now. [1:02:20, 1:02:21]: Uh [1:02:23, 1:02:34]: Not not right now, not really, Councilmember Barber. We can we can proceed as is since we just got approval for it. And when we do the update in August, when we start in August, we'll remove it and put it on the uh completed project list. [1:02:36, 1:02:36]: So [1:02:38, 1:02:42]: Thank you, sir. All right. Any other comments from Mr. Ryan? Anybody? We're good? [1:02:42, 1:02:48]: All right, so on that note I need a motion to accept this uh process. Mr. Alexander, sir, a second. [1:02:49, 1:03:09]: That's it. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. It's the unanimous decision. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. All right. Appreciate it. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna go into our public hearing. We have several public hearing items. And on that note, I I need to read the public hearing rules. First of all, please mute all cell phones, electronic and other electronic devices. If anybody [1:03:09, 1:03:29]: Wishing to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant and the representative regarding proposal plans for property along any with any other relevant uh information. The council will be free to speak excuse me. [1:03:29, 1:03:49]: The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have the opportunity to do so. Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Uh additional time may be extended by the discretion of the council. Please keep comments and presentations professional referring only to the country. [1:03:49, 1:04:09]: To the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, which is me, he and she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to the members of the council, staff, or audience. [1:04:09, 1:04:29]: All comments will be made from the podium where you'll be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. [1:04:29, 1:04:49]: The applicant may rever uh reverse reserve part of his or her speaking time as rebuttal or may speak next and last and may use the entire 10 minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and/or concerns. The presiding officer will call for a motion and the second. [1:04:49, 1:05:09]: Under the motion to have the necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote and recommend approval or denial of the request. On that note, I will uh this is a public hearing, and so I open uh open the public hearing up in that aspect. And so we're first going to let me do this, I'm sorry. [1:05:09, 1:05:29]: Text amendment to case uh TX dash 2024-02 Council consideration of text amendment to amend title twelve of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code UDC to amend section nine point three point four which contains regulations for mail notices the purpose of uh [1:05:29, 1:05:49]: Uh proposed uh changes include one requiring mail notices to be sent to owners of properties within five hundred feet of a subject property instead of just sending them to owners of adjacent properties. Number two, requiring mail notices to be mailed at least thirty days prior to the public hearing instead of fifteen days. Mr. Orion Anderson, please. Okay. Um [1:05:49, 1:06:09]: This project was um initiated by request from Councilmember Barber. Uh staff came before the the the council at the May 26th um work session and we presented our findings um on moving the um mail notice requirement from the current adjacent property owners. [1:06:09, 1:06:26]: to five hundred feet. Uh doing our research, we found that most uh municipalities have a five hundred feet radius. And at that May 26th um work session meeting, City Council um gave the recommendation to approve, voted for the recommendations for us for staff to take this [1:06:26, 1:06:29]: uh uh information to the planning commission. [1:06:30, 1:06:32]: And the the planning commission unanimously approved it. [1:06:33, 1:06:40]: Uh that we adopt a five hundred feet um distance requirement for mail notices for zoning ordinance for zoning items. [1:06:41, 1:06:46]: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. All right. Uh Ms. Barber, since you originally started this, do you have any comments at this point? [1:06:47, 1:06:56]: Yes, I don't understand why it's coming back to the council. Is it coming to us for a vote? We've already voted. Uh yes, you vote we voted to Senate because this is a a public [1:06:56, 1:07:01]: uh hearing item. When anytime you amend the UDC it has to go to the planning commission. [1:07:02, 1:07:04]: So at that bout in o meч om march твоє сікс. [1:07:05, 1:07:14]: Council gave us permission to take it to the city council I mean to the planning commission. And we took it to the planning commission on April eighteenth and they recommended uh unanimous approval. So we have to bring it back. [1:07:14, 1:07:19]: to have a public hearing to get a public opportunity to speak on it and then council has a final vote. [1:07:19, 1:07:20]: Thank you, Sarah. [1:07:21, 1:07:23]: Any other questions for Mr. Emerson? [1:07:23, 1:07:27]: No, I motion to approve. Well no, I gotta I gotta open it up, I gotta at least ask. [1:07:28, 1:07:38]: Thank you. All right. Any other questions from this thing? No? Okay. I will open up the public hearing for comments from the community. So any comments uh for positivity for this and the far my far left side. [1:07:39, 1:07:40]: I fly in the middle. [1:07:41, 1:07:42]: The far right side. [1:07:42, 1:07:48]: Okay, no comments uh for any comments against, once again, a far left side. [1:07:48, 1:07:49]: The middle. [1:07:50, 1:07:57]: For our right side, no comments there, so I'll close that particular f portion of public hearing. Now I need a motion um for this uh to adopt this new concept. [1:07:58, 1:08:18]: So move. Is there a second? Mr. Berry, second there. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. I'm counsel. Appreciate it. Text amendment case TX uh two zero two four four four four four four zero three. Consideration of text amendment to amend title twelve Unified Development Code or Stabridge Code ordinances for the purpose of providing various [1:08:17, 1:08:37]: Changes to section two point five point two, which contains regulations for the parkway mixed use PMU overlay district. Mr. Ryan, please. Okay, this is part of ongoing process by staff to um to amend our unif unified development code to make it more applicable to the um city of Stockbridge and some of the development trends and pattern. [1:08:37, 1:08:42]: that are currently on the way in the city. To sum it up, um [1:08:43, 1:09:03]: This text amendment basically allows the uses that are permitted in in the bridges of Johto Code to allow those on our major arterials and collector streaks. Because currently now the um this parkway mixed use overlay district as as as it is currently written, it restricts a lot of development opportunities for the city over the past. [1:09:02, 1:09:05]: [4146.8, 4160.1]: It's we had to turn away a lot of projects because of our parkway mixed use overlay district. And basically what what we want to do is amend it. For example, um the parkway mixed use overlay district currently prohibits drive-through restaurants. [1:09:20, 1:09:24]: And you know, after the pandemic, most uh restaurants and companies changed their business model. [1:09:24, 1:09:26]: To incor to incorporate [1:09:26, 1:09:35]: The drive-thru restaurant as a as a large aspect of their business operations. So we just want to amend this and uh also we made some substance changes to uh [1:09:35, 1:09:54]: designs for sea stores, some different uh requirements for them. For instance, now a sea store would have to be four-sided brick and have the same number of uh of electric charging stations as gas pumps. So we're basically trying to improve our parkway mixed use overlay district to make it more applicable to the city of Stockbridge. [1:09:54, 1:10:14]: Thank you, sir. Council, any questions? Yes. Go right ahead, please. Now there was uh was this the one that had the various items including the car wash? Yes, sir. Okay, uh that's the issue that I have right there is the car wash. It seems like there's a prominent thing where they're just throwing up these self-serve car washes and uh right and left. [1:10:14, 1:10:34]: I guess it's a very profitable business model, but it does not leave a a a pleasant appearance. There's a facility that I won't tall out right now in my district, uh that uh they just basically they open the door and pretty much they don't maintain the property and you just see a lot of absentee owners on that. [1:10:34, 1:10:54]: I have a problem with the car washes being included. I don't I want I would certainly like to uh continue that trend of just a lot of uh of um approval for them. So if they needed if they wanted to come to us, then they would come to us. There may be some applicable conditions like there would need to be somebody on that site that would do certain certain things. [1:10:53, 1:11:13]: things to it, but I don't want them to be able to just bypass us because they're putting these car washes up everywhere. No, sir. They wouldn't be able to bypass council. They would still be required to have a special use permit. So they would have to come before council to get you guys blessing before they could open up a car wash. Yeah, but I what but again this here what it does it is allows the car wash in the first place. [1:11:13, 1:11:33]: Like on my district right now, we got a car wash uh on the Eagles Landing side. We got another car wash under construction right at the city limits uh by Kroger, and then there's another car wash uh on Hudson Bridge as well. So there's three already there. So certainly uh that's not something that uh maybe we should go back and kind of look at. [1:11:33, 1:11:53]: that and maybe establish a number for it versus having uh it open along these parkways because right now we're we got a bunch of car washes uh that uh currently council member alexander um car washes are permitted in the PMU mm-hmm so right now we're making it more restrictive for car washes do in this ordinance in this ordinance. [1:11:53, 1:11:56]: Tell me how it's making it more restrictive on Tim. [1:11:56, 1:12:16]: Um because they would have to come before council to get a special use permit instead of just going through zoning. If they had a zoning, then they wouldn't have to come before council. I thought I thought I thought they were they weren't allowed along the perk the parkway. That's I thought they were not allowed. And they were trying you trying to make it. [1:12:16, 1:12:20]: Highway one hundred thirty eight wanting to have a car wash there. [1:12:20, 1:12:21]: Yeah. [1:12:21, 1:12:23]: Yeah. Well currently um [1:12:25, 1:12:45]: Now they would have to come before counsel to get a special use permit to open up a car wash. Right, but I I like that I like their prohibition where they can't go along the car wash along the corridors and if they would like to, then then they have to come and ask for a variance. That's the la that's what I would like to see apply to them. Yeah. Because there's so many of them and again they're that's a they're [1:12:45, 1:12:53]: We're saying the same thing just in different terms. I mean, uh exactly what you're saying is is represented in this uh text amendment. What you're saying is represent [1:12:55, 1:13:03]: I have a question. I don't see that. Okay. Uh if you go to um one second to list of special uses under C on the page what I have on the screen. [1:13:06, 1:13:10]: They would have to come before council to get a special use permit to to have those type of business. [1:13:11, 1:13:21]: And currently um it restricts those type of development activities along uh residential streets instead of um instead of collectors and arterials. [1:13:22, 1:13:23]: It's a typo. [1:13:24, 1:13:24]: Where? [1:13:25, 1:13:30]: And so our books don't re say special use, it says select uses. [1:13:31, 1:13:43]: Oh and it should say special use. Yes, it should say special uses. Okay. I'll make sure the um the clerk get the correct um version. This is this version right here has been uh vetted by our our zoning attorney. [1:13:44, 1:13:44]: Okay. [1:13:46, 1:13:53]: In order for somebody to establish a car wash along these corridors, they have to come to us. Yes, sir. Okay. [1:13:55, 1:14:15]: All right, uh thank you, sir. Uh Ms. Gantt, your question's already been answered then. Well, uh I was gonna say on all of them, it says select instead of special. So that special use as if we're allowing the use when it should be special use. So we wanna make sure that we are going by his version that he has here on the presentation screen and not that that we have in this. [1:14:15, 1:14:16]: Okay. [1:14:16, 1:14:28]: Okay. Uh the clo clerk might yeah, I I will forward you the correct version. We will upload it. Th the version that you have probably was uploaded before we went to planning commission. So I will send you the correct document in the morning or tonight. [1:14:29, 1:14:46]: Okay. Maybe. Thank you, sir. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, please. Oh, we we gotta do a never mind. I'm good. Good, we gotta do a public cryout. Right, so true. Okay, stand by sir. Stand by all right. All right, so I will open this up for any type of comment. Four from the citizenry. My left side, four. [1:14:47, 1:14:48]: In the middle, four. [1:14:49, 1:14:54]: The right side for seeing uh anybody that gets from my very left side. [1:14:55, 1:14:55]: The middle. [1:14:56, 1:14:57]: On the right side. [1:14:57, 1:15:07]: Yes, sir, no comments there. All right, they'll close that piece in that aspect. Go ahead. Council, I need a motion, please. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that we approve the um [1:15:08, 1:15:22]: uh Title Twelve Amended Title Twelve Unified Unified Development Code of Stoppridge Code Ordinance for the purpose of providing various changes to section two point five two which contains the regulations for the parkway mixed use overlay district. [1:15:23, 1:15:28]: Mayor. Yes, yes, you second that sir? Second. Okay, Mr. second that all favorites please indicate. [1:15:29, 1:15:32]: Okay. Yes ma'am. [1:15:32, 1:15:39]: The correct version, we don't have a copy of it. So I don't know what else. Yes, I just I just sent it to the clerk, so [1:15:39, 1:15:45]: But we don't have it in front of us. So I don't know what else other than the special use. [1:15:45, 1:15:49]: permit that Councilwoman Gantt pointed out, I don't know what else. [1:15:50, 1:15:57]: we may need to take a look at before we vote on this. So I'll abstain because I don't know Motion Place four zero one. [1:15:57, 1:16:11]: I will abstain because I do not have the correct version. I'll make sure you get it. Okay. Zero one. You're abstention. And I'm giving a reason as to why I'm abstaining. I'm being you will allow me to finish so that the clerk can document it. [1:16:11, 1:16:18]: Please, sir. Go right ahead, please. I'm abstaining because I do not have a copy of the correct version. [1:16:18, 1:16:28]: in which the council is currently voting on. I understand mister Anderson just forwarded the copy to the clerk. Yes. But the council doesn't have the copy. Yeah, that was that's my fault. I'll take [1:16:28, 1:16:48]: Thank you, sir. All right. Motion one once again, four zero one motion passed. We'll move on. Number six item number six uh was taken off the agenda this evening. And that aspect earlier, the comprehensive plan amendment uh was actually the now the applicant now uh meets the requirement, required destiny rate. Item number seven was also taken off the agenda and that [1:16:48, 1:16:52]: will be seen by the heard by the council on june tenth. [1:16:52, 1:16:58]: And so we'll go on move on to uh could at least ask a question about that number six. [1:16:59, 1:17:17]: Okay. Now uh in that uh schematic of things, uh that that was asked we had asked that there'll be a commercial piece resolved and uh for this particular um development along that corridor. So there's there's a still a commercial, we had asked for some mixed use. [1:17:17, 1:17:29]: That's correct, Councilmember Alexander. However, the um the applicant is still working on that. That's part of the reason why they deferred. Okay. So they'll be back June 10th with their final per with their final version. [1:17:29, 1:17:39]: Okay, but the d the housing level density now actually complies, so Yes, sir. When we updated the uh the comprehensive plan for twenty four twenty twenty four to twenty twenty eight. [1:17:39, 1:17:59]: the density over in that area was changed the density table in that document was changed. Uh increasing um the current low density was one to three units per acre. It then it increased to one to to um four point nine nine. And the medium density went from five to seven point nine nine. And the high density went from eight [1:17:59, 1:18:06]: To sixteen units, right. Okay, so but instead they still gotta come back to us. Mayor forward. Yes, sir. Point point of order, please, sir. Yes, sir. Push your point of order. [1:18:06, 1:18:22]: Uh this is an item that has been removed. Right. Therefore no discussion. Um it's in district two. I've had conversation with the developers and Mr. Anderson, but uh it has been removed from the agenda. Therefore no discussion. [1:18:22, 1:18:38]: All right, understand your point. Understand. We'll move on to new business. All right. New business is council consideration to approve twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five liability insurance policy an amount of uh seven hundred eighteen thousand eighty eight dollars. Uh Miss Wheeler, please. And it says Matt Simmons also as well. [1:18:42, 1:18:51]: E um Mr. Ryan, Ms. Anderson, you may want to take this presentation off or somehow we take Oh that's okay, that's it. Okay, got it. Good point. Thank you very much. [1:18:53, 1:18:54]: Thank you, that's fine. [1:18:59, 1:19:01]: All right, uh there we go. [1:19:01, 1:19:21]: Okay. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh what we're presenting to you this evening is the city's insurance liability for 2024-2025. I have Matt Simmons who is our broker with Gallagher. I'm going to make the presentation. [1:19:21, 1:19:22]: Point. [1:19:24, 1:19:44]: This is Daniel Duhart and Matt Simmons with Gallagher. So good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Daniel Duhart here with my business partner, Matt Simmons, and we are going to present uh the executive summary for 2024 for the city of Stockbridge. Uh we had an opportunity to meet with Ms. Willer about a week or so ago to talk through the entire [1:19:44, 1:20:04]: Your executive summary. So for the sake of time this evening, I won't talk through the entire summary, but I will highlight uh a few of the key uh points within the summary. So, first off, with the executive summary, uh it's really designed, it's something that we do for each of our clients, but it's really designed uh to provide [1:20:04, 1:20:24]: An update of everything that we've done leading up to the renewal, right? So that you have an idea of the things that we have been working on. With the executive summary, it consists of a couple different things, whether it's the uh like our core 360 approach to risk management. We look at uh just forecasting. [1:20:23, 1:20:43]: Some premiums, a market update. I think it's very important for our clients to understand what's going on in the market, some of the renewal results, and then also a stewardship report. And I'll talk to that a little bit later. But that's just a few of the things that the executive summary consists of. I'll jump right into uh the four [1:20:43, 1:21:03]: Forecasted premium part of the excess uh executive summary. So early on in the renewal process, uh, we try to talk with the client and give them an idea of just the forecasted uh premium. And so we pull that uh indication from just things that we're seeing going on in the market, and then also uh [1:21:03, 1:21:23]: just from talks that we have with the different carriers in the public entity market. And so uh early on we talked with Ms. Wheeler and we were projecting about a 40% increase based on a number of different things, whether that be uh just some of the emerging issues within the public entity space, whether it's social inflation, [1:21:23, 1:21:43]: Nuclear verdicts, even within uh just car insurance uh premiums are increasing. I think uh that's something that we can all too uh all agree to as well. So it's a lot of things that go into uh just the overall projection that we gave of 40 percent. Uh now one of the things that I will say, we are happy to say that. [1:21:43, 1:22:00]: that we were able to come in lower than that forecasted premium. So I'll turn it over to my business partner, Matt Simmons, and he'll talk through some of the actual renewal results and the actual numbers and then I'll talk a little bit more about the stewardship report as well. [1:22:00, 1:22:20]: Thank you, Daniel. And uh thank you. Excuse me. Thank you, Mayor and Council, for having us uh back and the opportunity to present. Um as Daniel was discussing, uh about January we we did we did budget forecasting as we do every year uh with Miss Wheeler. Um the next page that you have in front of you, uh we look at what were our results. Um so we went out. [1:22:20, 1:22:26]: out if you recall last year we came in pr we Gallagher was came in pretty close to renewal time last year. [1:22:26, 1:22:46]: Um, so we kind of had a constricted time frame. And so this year we went out and we wanted to look at the marketplace, see what was available out there. So presenting in front of you is the actual results um from the marketing travelers, your incumbent carrier provided a renewal option. This is and these are just based on the to the top pat the the uh total package uh program. This doesn't include your cyber. [1:22:46, 1:22:47]: Or terrorism. [1:22:48, 1:23:01]: Uh Liberty Mutual only provided a casualty quote. They could not look at the property based on uh weather modeling um that that they have. Um Tokyo Marine uh declined based on uh they're taking an approach of [1:23:02, 1:23:08]: Um, basically won't look at anything within twenty five miles of what they consider major metro municipality. [1:23:08, 1:23:26]: Um Trident uh declined based on loss history and uh the the that should say five, not six. The fifth one went to uh Gladfelt or just wasn't able to meet the uh carried uh timeline. So just a brief overview of of the of where of who to whom we went this year. Any questions about the marketing efforts? [1:23:27, 1:23:44]: I have none. I don't know if you're council member seven at all at this point. I guess not. Go ahead, sir. All right. Great. Thank you. And uh if you go to the last page, as Daniel uh alluded to, luckily, um we were able to actually uh like we said we forecast the premiums because we wanna make sure that there's budgeting um [1:23:44, 1:23:49]: So everybody kinda knows what's coming. But we always try to make sure hopefully make sure that we're a little bit higher. [1:23:49, 1:23:55]: On the forecast and what comes in and on this one, the renewal results were actually significantly better than our um [1:23:56, 1:24:16]: than our forecast and I noticed that the agenda item actually lists the forecasted number. Um the actual renewals votes can't came in about eighty thousand dollars lower than what is listed as the um as uh on the agenda item because that was the forecasted number. Um what we do with this is we like to show kind of show the work and show [1:24:15, 1:24:35]: Show the results. Um, one thing I can tell you is after we met with Ms. Wheeler, the number came down about$30,000 about a few days later, after we did some benchmarking against similar entities, um, um, both Henry County and Metro, based on renewals that we'd already had that year, to look at, hey, what's the market doing? And you'll see over to the right. [1:24:35, 1:24:55]: Right where we see those net rate changes. Um, a couple of things that will stick out to you: uh auto liability is continuing to go up. If anybody has renewed their car insurance, uh their personal auto insurance uh recently. Not a huge surprise there. Um so we're seeing that there's increased litigiousness in our state. [1:24:55, 1:25:15]: State. Um, again, that's not a should not be a big surprise to this body. Um, so we're seeing a lot of that going. That's really where we're seeing a lot of the drivers basically on all those liability coverages. We're seeing increases in um in in so there's social inflation, um, nuclear vertex loom. [1:25:15, 1:25:23]: Nuclear verdicts mean anything over$5 million, we're seeing more of those in the state of Georgia than we have really ever. [1:25:23, 1:25:43]: So that's where we're seeing a lot of those drivers. Property this year actually was great. It was it was a flat renewal, just went up based on exposures. Um our cyber uh came in. Um actually we got a reduction on the cyber. There is an option in here to increase your cyber coverage. Um so you'll see that we put optional coverage down at the bottom. [1:25:43, 1:26:03]: But all in all, on the grand total in the first section of your current program, we came in at just under a 20% net rate increase, which is in line with a lot of what we're seeing in the marketplace, especially in the met the in the major metro area for renewal net rate changes. [1:26:03, 1:26:05]: Um [1:26:07, 1:26:09]: Any questions there before I go to optional things? [1:26:10, 1:26:11]: Okay, council any questions. [1:26:12, 1:26:32]: Uh seeing none. Go ahead, sir. All right. Um two options we have on here. Uh during our conversation uh with Ms. Wheeler, there was concern there had been an incident at one point regarding mold. And we have Daniel referenced our core three sixty process. We sit and we don't just look at and let's renew like for like every year. [1:26:32, 1:26:39]: want to talk through, hey, what what isn't currently covered and one thing was pollution liability and the pollution exposure. [1:26:39, 1:26:48]: There um there was a concern from Ms. uh Wheeler about I think that there was um there was a building a number of years ago that had uh mold. [1:26:48, 1:26:52]: Um and so we had that discussion. So we brought out an option of [1:26:53, 1:27:05]: Coverage that can help with remediation, um, cleanup, um, liability costs in the event of any form of exposure there. Um, and then we also have an option uh to um [1:27:05, 1:27:18]: And the premium number on the cyber three million limit is to add is additional premium to um what is for what is the like for like renewal proposed to increase your limits from two million dollars to three million dollars. [1:27:20, 1:27:21]: Okay. [1:27:23, 1:27:24]: Any other questions thus far? Council. [1:27:26, 1:27:27]: Go write it, please. [1:27:27, 1:27:40]: The in regards to uh I'm looking here under the renewal results, I believe we have and I'm looking at the percentage of increase. I mean, there's some pretty big numbers, jumps, right? We went from [1:27:41, 1:27:48]: W what what is the increase amount? Like eighty s uh it was fifty like for auto liability, fifty two percent. [1:27:49, 1:27:53]: And then auto physical damage, we went up eighty six percent. [1:27:53, 1:27:59]: Oh uh I think you have the version from before we did our final negotiation. [1:27:59, 1:28:19]: Um forgive me, I think that you have the uh the prior version, the the one that I I'm not sure if you're able to see what's up on the screen. It's here. I think you probably have because we prov we provided our executive summary that we reviewed with Miss Wheeler um before the submission deadline for this council meeting. And so that would have been that Monday, Tuesday Monday. [1:28:19, 1:28:27]: Morning, that number came down thirty, that autophysical damage came down thirty thousand dollars. Okay. So that came down to a net rate increase of thirty-four and a half percent. [1:28:27, 1:28:45]: Um so my apologize. We get here's our results, but we keep going, you know, we we go until the whistle's blown. Okay. Um so we had additional discussions. Once I was kind of looking at it, was able to benchmark it against some other municipalities. Um we were able to make a pretty strong case that [1:28:45, 1:28:58]: That was far too significant of an increase. Okay. Um so that the the actual premium number uh on that line item for auto physical damage is actually seventy seven thousand three hundred eight. You're looking at about one oh eight, right? [1:28:58, 1:29:13]: I was, yes. Yep. Okay. So I see the bottom line has gone down a little bit. Yes, th the the the over yeah, the what it what you're looking at, the bottom line number came down roughly thirty thousand dollars. Okay. So we have here I c can I all the other numbers are accurate that you're looking at. [1:29:13, 1:29:26]: The grand total is around six forty four, is that it? So that comes down to uh excuse me, six that at the bottom with the options, but right above the optional coverages, that first grand total should be six thirty, zero three, six. [1:29:27, 1:29:35]: Six thirty zero three six and then the with the options is six forty six six forty six five seven two. [1:29:36, 1:29:46]: Okay. And up top it says auto liability. It incre it still increased at fifty seven per fifty two percent. So why is there such a large increase there? [1:29:46, 1:30:00]: So um there's a lot of factors that are going into this. Um I mentioned, you know, we look at the increase for uh litigiousness in Georgia. Um we are um [1:30:01, 1:30:21]: the w the most litigious state in the country right now. Um so we're s you're seeing those lawsuits, you know, when you have auto accidents, people are suing more, they are getting greater awards. Um those verdicts are increasing. Okay. So that it's kind of driving as a whole the insurance market. [1:30:21, 1:30:25]: He is driving that. [1:30:25, 1:30:30]: Um I saw about twenty eight municipalities at the beginning of May. [1:30:30, 1:30:36]: pretty in line with that with what everyone's looking at. Um you see, you know, um [1:30:36, 1:30:43]: Cars are also getting more expensive to replace, to repair, because it's more technology. Um so [1:30:44, 1:30:53]: claimant vehicles, it's costing more to pay out on that. There are more claims around bodily injury. There's more claims of you know, kinda anything. [1:30:53, 1:31:10]: And is that is it also based upon our our claims? Any of the uh claims that our vehic anyone in our vehicles So that that's an experience rating factor um that that does come into account. You don't have a lot of those claims. [1:31:11, 1:31:17]: Um that's actually one of the reasons why we were able to bring down the autofiscal damage, um, which is that first party loss. So if [1:31:18, 1:31:27]: If somebody hits you, um, if you hit uh a deer, if you hit uh a pole and just you need to fix your vehicle, we we kind of ran through the metrics and said, this is [1:31:27, 1:31:30]: Too much. That eighty eight percent you were looking at. [1:31:30, 1:31:33]: Your lost history did not account for that. [1:31:33, 1:31:41]: Um however on the auto liability, that is something that is more market-driven on um [1:31:42, 1:32:02]: On the city of Stockbridge, as opposed to experience driven. You have had some. You know, if you have a police, if you have law enforcement, you're going to have auto claims. It just kind of happens. Um, if you're just working out, you know, public roads, you know, public works, there's going to be those claims. So a lot of that's taken into account. This is a result of the past several. [1:32:02, 1:32:22]: Years again of increased litigiousness, increased claims, increased verdicts throughout Georgia and really the major metro area. So we see we are seeing this across the board. It is not, you're not getting a larger increase than you know everybody else is getting on that. Um it's not a [1:32:22, 1:32:27]: great increase to be receiving, but it is something that we are seeing in the market just you know. [1:32:28, 1:32:30]: We keep hearing the term. [1:32:30, 1:32:43]: thin pricing that has been on the books for years and years. We're in a very hard market. And so that is really driving up those costs on the auto liability. Because they're also factoring what's the future going to look like. What could happen? [1:32:43, 1:32:46]: It's all based on the modeling and um but it i [1:32:47, 1:32:52]: It is in line with what we've been seeing around the metro area and other cities in Georgia. [1:32:54, 1:32:56]: Yeah, go ahead, sir. [1:32:57, 1:33:16]: Um on the same subject and we're talking about the state of Georgia, what is the impact of youth drivers, twenty five to eighteen, senior drivers, how what's the impact there that that will affect us here? [1:33:17, 1:33:17]: Mm-hmm. [1:33:18, 1:33:33]: Are we talking about city drivers? Are we talking about just dri drivers? Well, when you you you made reference to the state of Georgia as a whole and and the market there is. Um and the reason I'm asking this question, um I'm a senior driver myself. [1:33:33, 1:33:36]: And I heard some of the same language. [1:33:36, 1:33:40]: about Georgia being number one. [1:33:40, 1:33:47]: And I was just curious as to the impact of youth drivers and senior driving. [1:33:47, 1:33:55]: that affected them affecting the market, even even here at the municipality, but in reference to the state of Georgia. [1:33:58, 1:34:18]: I and you you may not have any. No, no, I was just saying I'm just a little curious. No, no, no. I I you know it it's a great question, and I can't speak to a whole on that because that brings in factors of of um personal insurance is really where we see a lot more of of those things because you don't typically see 18-year-old drivers [1:34:18, 1:34:25]: driving for you know you may see them driving for private companies. You don't have to see them driving for local governments. Um but [1:34:25, 1:34:45]: I don't have met we don't have metrics or benchmarks down that low. Um, and I'll I'll speak to one thing briefly too, um, because uh actually maybe a month or so ago now, I was actually speaking at NFBPA National Forum for Black Public Administrators, and that question came up as well. Uh I know as it pertains to the state of Georgia, like [1:34:45, 1:35:05]: Matt said it's kind of separate in a way, but it can affect the overall premium. But I know for the state of Georgia, team drivers uh is something that has really increased rates and stuff for the state of Georgia. Didn't really speak more so in terms of like senior drivers were uh a big impact, but uh I do know a lot of the team drivers. [1:35:05, 1:35:15]: So speaking to that. Yeah, and I appreciate that. And what I was trying to to to get to [1:35:16, 1:35:23]: How even though we're talking about Georgia and you have all of these municipalities within the state. [1:35:23, 1:35:25]: And I just didn't see [1:35:26, 1:35:27]: А сепарачин. [1:35:28, 1:35:30]: of municipal [1:35:30, 1:35:40]: uh government, employees and what have you, from the other society, as far as Georgia and insurance rates. [1:35:41, 1:36:00]: No, sure. And and it we're just not we don't have the information kind of s separate that granularly on it. Um but you know, an interesting thing that you bring up is um is w more teen drivers, more drivers in general. I mean [1:36:00, 1:36:06]: I mean, you know, for me, thank goodness we're on the north end of Henry County. Um, driving up and down seventy five, but um [1:36:07, 1:36:27]: There's more cars out there. So there's more drivers out there. A lot of those are youth drivers. And so we are just seeing with increased congestion, there's more opportunities for ac accidents to happen. So there are there are factors, but we just it's we it's not drilled down that far. But to Daniel's point, um there is a factor in the overall insurance. [1:36:27, 1:36:40]: marketplace but specific to municipal, we don't really have kind of the the the weighting factor on that piece. Um it's really driven by overall litigation and and claim pouch and things like that. [1:36:40, 1:36:41]: Thank you. [1:36:41, 1:36:42]: Yes, sir. Any other questions, Council? [1:36:44, 1:36:58]: Okay, so above the four, so so otherwise there are two different options. One we have to select one of the the options. There is the um there is the there's the total, which is your like for like renewal. You know, we same insurance you've got. [1:36:58, 1:37:13]: Today will be the same insurance you have on the 19th when it renews. Um you have the option of adding pollution coverage and increasing your cyber limit from two million to three million dollars. Um those are the two options you have in front of you. [1:37:14, 1:37:15]: Um [1:37:17, 1:37:25]: Pollution covers is one option, the other option? Uh yeah, th those are two options, pollution and increasing your cyber liability limit from two million to three million dollars. [1:37:27, 1:37:28]: All right. [1:37:28, 1:37:31]: Councilor, any comments in reference to those options and what we're doing here? [1:37:32, 1:37:35]: Yes, sir. Um the cyber [1:37:35, 1:37:55]: I've noticed and from hearing in the news, I know Henry County also has some issues in the past. What's the um rate of change, I guess, on municipalities and local government being affected by cyber attacks and how much has that impacted policy changes across municipalities throughout the m the uh Georgia area, the region? Have we seen that as a spike? [1:37:55, 1:38:00]: or trend in the last I guess five years. [1:38:00, 1:38:20]: Yes, sir. So actually, um, really you would uh yeah, really call it four years since basically since twenty twenty. Um twenty twenty-one was a massive market correction. Um, massive market correction for the cyber market where rates skyrocketed. Um, you know, I I was I saw some clients get five hundred percent increases. I mean [1:38:20, 1:38:35]: significant increases. In the past two years, those have started to level. As you'll see, you've got um you uh you actually um got a bit of a rate reduction on on it this year and the option to increase more coverage actually increase your underlying coverage [1:38:36, 1:38:42]: At during our renewal last year, we had conversations regarding some of your uh cybersecurity. Um [1:38:42, 1:38:45]: Discuss it with with Miss Wheeler and um IT. [1:38:45, 1:39:05]: Got a lot of stuff taken care of this year. Okay. Um, so that's where we saw we're able to actually increase coverage and reduce rate. But to about policies, procedures, controls. Um, I have that conversation every single day with our clients. Um, it it is absolutely driven up. It is a major topic of conversation. How much of that is ransomware? [1:39:05, 1:39:08]: And and and how our s how are [1:39:09, 1:39:13]: What's the trend as far as what cities are doing when they're being impacted by ransomware? [1:39:13, 1:39:33]: It varies. Um it varies and I'm I'm gonna tread lightly on the line because there are certain things I don't wanna say in public forum based about cybersecurity and things like that. Um we are seeing a shift from traditional ransomware somewhat. [1:39:33, 1:39:45]: because people are starting to get a little bit wise to it. But that is still really your primary driver. That's still kind of what you're seeing, you know, the, the, the, the. [1:39:46, 1:39:54]: day-to-day attacks, if you will, um, you know, for lack of better terminology. Um ransomware is a big is is a big driver around that. Um [1:39:56, 1:40:06]: There are some people out there that just wanna wors watch the world burn though also. Um and and just do it ju just do it just to do it. Um you recommend that we increase from three to five? [1:40:06, 1:40:10]: I would recommend that. Yes. Especially based on the premium. [1:40:11, 1:40:19]: Million dollars for five dr for fifteen hundred dollars, pretty good deal. Um I would recommend that, yes. [1:40:22, 1:40:24]: Okay, yeah. Any other questions? [1:40:25, 1:40:28]: Mr. Gardner, what's the recommendation? [1:40:44, 1:41:02]: Good evening, Council Mayor. Good evening, sir. Uh as it relates to the options, I think we should up our insurance. Obviously it's better to be safe than sorry and we don't know if we're gonna get hit. And if we do at least we go from two million to three million. You're talking about cyber, is that what you're talking about? On the cybersecurity, yes. [1:41:03, 1:41:23]: Um always air on the side of caution with that. Um because we have so many devices out here, it just makes it so easy. Um and like you said, you don't want me saying this on the public forum because the people that do it watch these meetings. Um but yes, I would go with I would go with the option for the extended the um additional option. [1:41:23, 1:41:23]: Yeah. [1:41:23, 1:41:26]: And what about the pollution? Uh [1:41:32, 1:41:52]: Better to be safe than sorry, yes. You know, we we do have a older building there, um that we still have people working out of and I don't know what's in that building. Might be stuff that's not supposed to be in there. So we might want to just keep that pollution for this year until we were able to look at that building um in more detail. [1:41:52, 1:41:54]: I think that's the building you're talking about, right? [1:41:55, 1:41:56]: Yeah. [1:41:57, 1:42:05]: So but your recommendation is to to to expand the duty optional coverage on top of for the total of six forty six [1:42:05, 1:42:08]: Five seventy two. [1:42:08, 1:42:28]: Pollution on cyber, yes sir. Okay. All right. Well may ms uh Mr. Bear Bear Pro Team Bear has some very important pointing questions about what was going on. And like I said, uh for fifteen hundred dollars it does seem very reasonable. I just wanted to make sure the the city manager was signing off on that. So certainly I'm okay with it. All right, so is there a motion? [1:42:28, 1:42:45]: So Mayor, I move that we approve the 2024-2025 liability insurance policy in the amount of$646,572. [1:42:47, 1:42:57]: Okay, you want to mention about the additional i options? Yes, yes th that th that would be included with the c correct, correct. [1:42:57, 1:43:01]: All right, is there a second emotion? Mr. Berry, second that Clarity. [1:43:01, 1:43:09]: Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, please. Was that amount six hundred and forty six thousand or six forty seven? Six forty six five seven two. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. [1:43:09, 1:43:25]: And I I'd like to add one thing. One thing that we've discussed with travelers and we've discussed with Ms. Wheeler in the past, you're off s you're off cycle with your insurance renewal. One thing that we're gonna look at doing this year is actually doing what we call a cancel rewrite. We're gonna work to see if we can do a cancel rewrite. [1:43:26, 1:43:40]: So that we can actually reset your insurance renewal date to January one. So that we can actually now start aligning this with your fiscal year. Because as you see, we do budget forecasting so that we can actually start budgeting for this in the future. So we're gonna try and do that this year. [1:43:41, 1:43:41]: Okay. [1:43:42, 1:43:56]: Thank you for that. That's just additional information for us to know at this time. No, I absolutely because it will shift kind of the the fiscal year financial impact. Because if we cancel and rewrite it, that fiscal year impact will come down because it won't go through an entire 12 months. [1:43:56, 1:44:06]: It will i if we're able to do that, it will reset and we'll have a budget number for January. Okay. So I want to make sure everyone's aware of that. All right, thank you. Motion's been made in a second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:44:07, 1:44:15]: She announced decision. Thank you very much, gentlemen. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. May I also request that they provide to us this revised renewal results. Yes, ma'am. [1:44:16, 1:44:36]: Thank you very much. Yes, ma'am. Um, Mr. Mayor, uh one thing we wanted to have an opportunity, i i if if we may, um Daniel was gonna provide uh a little bit of overview of some of the actually the work that's been going on outside of just placing the insurance so you can kind of get a an idea of the risk management uh things that are being done. Okay, this is information for us, we're not voting on what you're talking about. [1:44:36, 1:44:56]: Correct. No, no vote. No, okay. All right. No vote. This is just we we just want to be able to provide you with information about the work that actually we're doing with the city. Okay, go write it, please. Got it. Okay. And uh so with the stewardship report, and I referred to that earlier, uh, when we first took over the account, so working with the city of Stockbridge, uh talking with uh Miss Renee and the team, uh she was [1:44:56, 1:45:16]: Really adamant about wanting to make sure that we establish a solid risk management culture, right? Getting some things in place to make sure that we're helping to mitigate against uh some of the risk. So with uh originally we brought in Alex Scott, which is a senior risk consultant, and Alex is great with helping. [1:45:16, 1:45:36]: Helping to establish some of those things. So and I'll speak to a couple of the things that uh we've already done. So originally uh there was a safety program survey, and so we met with each of the department heads, and it was really a way for us to get a baseline in place to understand what policies and procedures that you all have in place and how do we want to [1:45:36, 1:45:56]: approve upon those things. So that's kind of where it started. Another thing that we were looking to do in talking with Ms. Willer is to uh create or implement the safety and accident review committee. Typically I think that's going to consist of about five to seven people. It's maybe something to where we'll meet on a quarterly basis and we will review all of the claims. [1:45:56, 1:46:16]: Within that quarterly period, and then really talk about some of the safety programs or procedures that we want to put in place moving forward. So really taking a proactive approach with the safety and risk management for the city of Stockbridge. And then one of the other things that we're looking to do as well, too, or that we've done with the law enforcement, right, with the city of Stockbridge. [1:46:16, 1:46:36]: Stockbridge recently kind of picking up law enforcement on the insurance. One of the things that we've seen is that sometimes within the law enforcement department, uh there can be uh you know a spike in claims in that area. So again, Ms. Wheeler was just talking about the fact that we really want to be proactive in that area of the insurance as well too. So [1:46:36, 1:46:56]: Um, you know, including the law enforcement as a part of that safety committee, uh, and again, you know, working with them to review policies, procedures, and things like that. So all of it is really to help improve the risk profile, right? Help how the carriers view the account for the city of Stockbridge, because ultimately that helps or have [1:46:56, 1:47:16]: Has an impact on how they view or rate the account. So there's a lot of things that we have been doing, a lot of things that we're looking to do in the future. I think we may even have a kickoff meeting as early as the end of May, maybe sometime in June. But we'll have ongoing updates and reports on some of the things that we're doing around risk management. But just wanted to give a brief update. [1:47:15, 1:47:18]: update on a few of the things that we've already done to this point. [1:47:18, 1:47:38]: Okay. It's m only my simple assumption that uh this is become more prevalent that we have to really pay attention is based on the fact that we have a police department, um I would think. More employees and then uh more vehicles on the road, things of this nature. It's kinda driving this more or less. That's what I what I assume. Well and and when Mr. Gardner uh and Miss Wheeler um [1:47:38, 1:47:45]: Um and Ms. Holiday brought us uh brought us in last year. One of the things they said was they really wanted to start a risk management program. [1:47:45, 1:47:53]: a ri a true risk management program in the city of Stockbridge. And that's why I wanted to provide an update uh to the uh to the uh council today. [1:47:53, 1:47:56]: Well, you know, we've actually haven't been having some really good um [1:47:56, 1:48:14]: Really good discussion, actually starting to put some action behind it, really developing risk management as opposed to just buying insurance but managing risk in the city of Stockbridge. Um just g you know, it's I feel we feel it's always good to provide an update of, hey, what else is going on throughout the year with these guys that stand up in front of us, you know, once a year. [1:48:14, 1:48:34]: All right, thank you. Uh any other questions or comments around the last bit of this presentation, Council? Okay. If not, thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Okay, thank you. Uh council consideration to approve the Georgia Power Lighting Agreement for street light uh enhancement for fifty-nine lights for Walt Stevens Road and amount of twenty four thousand two hundred fourteen. [1:48:34, 1:48:54]: Dollars per year, 46 lights on for Valley Hill Road in amount of eighteen thousand eight hundred seventy-eight dollars per year, twenty-five lights on Jodoku Road in amount of eighteen thousand eight hundred and fifty-five dollars per year. It says wooden pose here, or twenty-five uh lights for Jodoku Road in an amount of thirty-five thousand four hundred dollars a year. [1:48:54, 1:49:14]: Black aluminum poles and Davis and 22 lights for Davis Road in the amount of$9,338 per year, and 19 lights for Shields Road in amount of$8,892 per year for a total of$79,927 or$96,772. [1:49:14, 1:49:21]: Annually and this is coming from the FY twenty twenty four department budget and the funding source is for this. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:49:21, 1:49:41]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Uh Public Works staff was tasked with uh obtaining lighting proposals from Georgia Power for the lighting of major thoroughfares. And those roads were, as you read, Walt Stevens Road, Valley Hill Road, Jodico Road, Davis Road, and Shields Road. And so we had those proposals. [1:49:41, 1:50:01]: Proposals prepared by Georgia Power and Councilman Alexander asked if we'd look at having instead of the wooden poles on Jodico Road, having uh black metal poles to uh match what was inside the development at the bridges of Jodico. So we have diff two different prices. If we use the wooden poles. [1:50:01, 1:50:17]: It would be$79,927 for all of the projects. And so if we went with the black aluminum poles, then increased the cost to$96,772. So it's a$16,845 difference. [1:50:18, 1:50:38]: If you use the black aluminum pole versus the wooden poles on Johtoco, which what Georgia Powell is going to do, the wooden poles on Jodico will remain if we decide to go with the black poles. They'll just put additional poles there. Their proposal initially was to install the lights on the wooden poles that are already there on Jodico Road. [1:50:38, 1:50:58]: So whether you go with the wooden or the black, the wood poles are still gonna stay there. They're not gonna remove them because they're the infrastructure for the power that runs along Jodeco Road. So it's just whether you wanna pay the additional m amount of money to install the black aluminum poles versus the wooden poles. [1:50:58, 1:51:18]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. So m Mr. Aaron, is is is this going to be consistent throughout the the city in the future as far as the black poles? So th the thing with the the metal poles is you have to run the power underground. Then there's an additional cost for that. And it's always gonna be [1:51:18, 1:51:26]: The more expensive option. And typically the wooden poles are the cheaper option because poles are already there. [1:51:26, 1:51:31]: And so the black poles there are more of a decorative item than a actual [1:51:33, 1:51:52]: But the question still yeah, but the question still remains though, is this going to be consistent throughout? Because I I don't think this is gonna be the last time that we are into this discussion when it comes to other part of the city when when there are um poles and lights that are needed. [1:51:53, 1:51:54]: And I think for me now. [1:51:55, 1:52:00]: Uh that's the question for me. Uh are we gonna be consistent with this process? [1:52:01, 1:52:08]: Just in my opinion, I would say the wooden ones I would go with that because typically they're already there. [1:52:09, 1:52:11]: And so you don't have to make that investment. [1:52:12, 1:52:17]: in the additional infrastructure. You can just attach lights to poles that are already there. [1:52:17, 1:52:37]: And then you run into an expense when you put something on the ground. As you know around here, there's a lot of rock here. So there's the potential to run into rock when you put those lines on the ground. I know we're paying a premium for the iron pole, but then there's an [1:52:37, 1:52:46]: Additional costs in addition to this ninety-six thousand. Is that what you mean? So that's the total cost for the polls. So that's also including the burial of the cables. Yes, sir. [1:52:47, 1:53:07]: But then we would have wooden and iron side by side. Or what's the space like what is the space between the wood the between the wood and the iron? Are we talking like wood five feet from there, then an iron pole? Like what that that doesn't look right. Well stem stand by please. Actually, Mr. Berry was next, but stand by please. Go ahead, sir. Finish the [1:53:07, 1:53:15]: Yeah, so what is what is the gapping or the spacing between wooden and iron if we go with the iron proposal? [1:53:15, 1:53:35]: So it it depends on the right-of-way there on Jodeco Road. It would typically they would put the metal ones behind the sidewalk on Jodeco Road. And the wooden ones are further closer toward the development, the bridges at Jodeco development. And so you're probably talking ten to twenty feet in some areas. [1:53:35, 1:53:50]: But you're just gonna have two sets of poles. You're gonna have one set of poles with just lights on'em and then another set of poles with the the wires and things of that sort. And there's no way around that. That they will have to coexist. Yes, sir. [1:53:51, 1:53:55]: Uh all right, you are you you complete, sir? Yeah. I'm sorry, Mr Thomas, will you complete? [1:53:56, 1:53:57]: Well [1:53:58, 1:54:18]: I I just don't see how we can I keep hearing Jodeco Jotiko but we have to go with the whole [1:54:18, 1:54:35]: I just don't see how we can uh pick and choose when we sort of do these kind of things because other areas would need the same and that's my concern. [1:54:37, 1:54:57]: Well, if you wanna if you wanted a policy, then you would just like you're going with the Made the Thoroughfares for lighting, you can require that made the thoroughfares have those type of poles, the metal poles as an option. You could do that, but like I say, it's gonna be a more expensive option and it's not gonna replace [1:54:57, 1:54:59]: It'll be in addition to [1:55:01, 1:55:01]: All right. [1:55:02, 1:55:03]: You done, sir. [1:55:07, 1:55:27]: Okay, Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Mr. Alexander? Yes, this is uh District Five. And let me clarify, Mr. Aaron, the information that you're given is incorrect. The poles, the wooden poles are about fifty feet off of Jotoko. They're not they're not at the street side. They carry the main power thrower power force through [1:55:27, 1:55:34]: Uh the Jotaco development. Everything inside the development has buried wires in it. Isn't that correct? [1:55:35, 1:55:50]: Yes, but I was talking about the poles that supply the power to that area that are on the wooden poles. Right, but all the poles that are inside the development have buried wiring. They have metal poles and they're right at the street side behind the behind the ten foot pass, correct? [1:55:51, 1:55:52]: Yes, sir. [1:55:52, 1:56:12]: Right. That is the that is what we required of the developer in that development that they would do that. And let's make it very clear. There's not gonna be a ten foot separation. Those poles are about fifty feet off the roadway. So it would not be possible at this time to put lights on the existing poles, because those poles [1:56:12, 1:56:32]: are not at the roadside. They're at least forty to fifty feet off the roadside. So they would light up the development uh where the restaurants are or the property o on the property owner side versus being close to the sidewalk because there's a lot of right of way along the uh Jodico side. Now to answer Councilman Thomas's question, [1:56:32, 1:56:45]: I do think that we should make this the policy. And I was gonna make that recommendation uh f as far as uh going toward um doing that at every commercial site. [1:56:46, 1:57:06]: If we look walk go down North Henry Boulevard right now, we got poles that are like this, bending over. It looks absolutely horrible. And it you cannot minimize what the aspects look like. But the deals that we have in Jodico, we just adopted those standards uh for the parkway corridor. We need to adopt those standards. [1:57:06, 1:57:26]: citywide as was stated because we implement them citywide we get improvement. So when a uh when a poll is replaced, it certainly could be a request that the poll in the futures are replaced with metal poles. But I certainly wouldn't want us to require the developer [1:57:26, 1:57:27]: [7048.3, 7068.3]: that we're not willing to do ourselves. And in most commercial areas, as people move forward with the assessment to improve their city, they're doing these metal poles in those areas along new development. That's what we require of the developer. If we went to the parkway corridor [1:57:48, 1:58:08]: That's what Henry County requires. When they're when they along their highway corridor, when they install new lighting, those new lighting poles have to be inside the development or outside the development, which they require the developer to put them in. We should have required the developer to put them in, but we didn't do that because the code was lax at that time. [1:58:08, 1:58:28]: Time. But to be honest and to be straightforward and uh and uh accurate, there is no right at the street lighting at Johtaco. It's black dark right there. This the poles are back into development. They installed those poles to carry the maximum voltage so they can light up. [1:58:28, 1:58:35]: the entire area. But everything inside that development has a black metal pole on it and it has the wiring back buried. [1:58:37, 1:58:57]: But these are lights along Jodeco Road, not within the development. Exactly. So that these lights would be. Right. These lights would match what we have inside the development. And any div any new development, like we come in like we're doing flip and roll, right? When we do flip and roll, do we and and that development [1:58:56, 1:59:10]: developed, do we want to put flo a wooden poles in there? No, we don't. Any new development that comes along, we want to match what we require of the developer because inside that flip and roll development, they got to put up metal poles. [1:59:10, 1:59:30]: We want to be consistent with that. Now we put up wooden poles along campground. I was all for that because that's a residential area. But when you're talking about doing commercial, you don't see any wooden poles. And you do see when you go up to Carl Parkway or you go up to Sandy Springs, they have the metal poles along the street side and then the uh wooden poles set. [1:59:30, 1:59:34]: step back, but to say that the poles were at the street side, that's inaccurate. [1:59:36, 1:59:40]: Mayor Ford. Ms. Gantt. [1:59:40, 1:59:50]: Thank you. I have a couple questions. Well I have I have a couple of questions and maybe some concerns. Um in regards to [1:59:51, 1:59:55]: The black iron pole. [1:59:55, 2:00:11]: Well I have some comments too. But in g in regards to the black iron poles, are they just as tall as the the wooden poles? Are they do they look like that or are they the cosmetic, the smaller, shorter poles with the They're uh I think twenty five feet. [2:00:11, 2:00:18]: Your twenty five feet. And how many feet are the the wooden poles? I think those wooden's probably forty plus feet. Okay. [2:00:19, 2:00:20]: And then [2:00:20, 2:00:27]: Well you know when we go down flipping let's say I'm well, from here I'm going from turning into your point of order. I'm turning what's what's your point of order, sir? [2:00:28, 2:00:43]: Is that that's not accurate? The poles aren't twenty five feet. The ones inside of Jotacore are fifty feet. I'm I'm saying the ones that they're proposing in the proposal. The black ones. Okay. I have a reason I'm asking. So when you when you make a left onto flipping from here. [2:00:44, 2:00:51]: And on the and we turn right, like we're going towards Davison Parkway. There are lights, those are black pole lights. Are they not? Are they [2:00:51, 2:00:56]: Wha what kind of lights lighting is that? [2:00:57, 2:01:03]: on uh old Atlanta Road, but they also put some wooden poles there, if I'm not mistaken as well. [2:01:03, 2:01:23]: Okay. And are these the same decorative lights that are l that are on that road? That would be on Jodico. Uhhuh. No man. They won't be the same? No man. Um and I thought about that when I'm on Walk Stevens and you have a lot of kids and a lot of people. And when we start getting sidewalks that connect [2:01:23, 2:01:36]: connect and trails. Um but I didn't know whether or not they had street lights in addition to that or they just had the decorative lights and did the city put those up if they're not gonna be the same as those black aluminum poles. [2:01:37, 2:01:39]: So the ones on all Atlanta? [2:01:40, 2:01:45]: Is that Odalana? Before you get to Reese Creek Trail, um [2:01:46, 2:01:55]: So you turn y we're leaving out of here, we're going flipping to the left and you make a right. Remember they have that little sign you can't turn at certain hours. What's the name of that road? [2:01:55, 2:02:07]: Old Atlanta. Old Atlanta. So those decorative lights. Those are they're sim similar to the ones that are on ML King Senior Heritage Trail. Okay. All right. [2:02:08, 2:02:28]: Okay. And those would not be the ones that would be here over by Jodico, correct? No, ma'am. They'd have the uh there's a picture in your packet. They're they're the lights that kinda similar to the ones on uh ML King's Heritage Trail where the light is focused on a a an area. [2:02:28, 2:02:29]: Okay. [2:02:30, 2:02:31]: And um [2:02:32, 2:02:36]: I have a concern in regards to when we do community [2:02:39, 2:02:42]: spending additional funds if they're not gonna look [2:02:43, 2:02:59]: cohesive or continu i if they're not gonna be contiguous throughout the entire city. So not one community, you know, one district is not have black poles and then the rest of us don't. I don't I don't like that idea. Um and I also [2:03:00, 2:03:00]: You know [2:03:01, 2:03:08]: Don't like the idea of having a lot of polls either. A lot of signing, a lot of like multiple poles. I'm concerned with clutter. [2:03:09, 2:03:29]: Um when we look at some of this downtown development and economic development and all the classes we've taken and they try to streamline and clean up the area, um, you know, they simplify things and and reduce the amount of polls or reduce the amount of signage. Um so to me this would add if the pol the [2:03:28, 2:03:31]: the wooden poles already gonna be there anyway. [2:03:32, 2:03:32]: Um [2:03:33, 2:03:35]: So I I just have some concerns about that. [2:03:36, 2:03:46]: Um not necessarily against it, but I I'm not really for it either, considering there'd be two poles there and th and we're and we're looking at cost. [2:03:46, 2:03:52]: And we would do if we do it at one district, we would need to do it at all all the districts. It needs to be cohesive. [2:03:53, 2:03:54]: I would think. [2:03:54, 2:03:57]: That's just my opinion. Now um [2:03:57, 2:04:15]: I get what you're saying, Councilman Alexander, and I totally understand it. But if if a district or a commercial development wants um something else to enhance their particular area, then there's been talks of CIDs, there's been talks of [2:04:15, 2:04:17]: Інопи про доз тін. [2:04:18, 2:04:24]: But I I think that if the city's gonna do it, we're gonna either do it all or none. That's that's my take on it. [2:04:25, 2:04:28]: Certainly if I c Stand by please. Are you are you done now? Okay. [2:04:29, 2:04:43]: Um Mr. Thomas, go ahead please. Um, Mayor Ford, I I I wanted some clarification, um, you the presiding officer, but I wanted to direct the question to Councilman Alexander. He mentioned something about [2:04:44, 2:05:04]: in new commercial development uh it was required by the developer. Uh is that a city policy? I I don't recall. I don't recall that. Is that a question to me? Yeah, yeah, just asking you. I don't think we have a city policy. Well what has happened? Let me answer the question. [2:05:03, 2:05:23]: question. Henry County has developed that policy because initially what we did was we passed the policy that they passed, which is the parkway corridor, which was called the highway corridor. They have updated their policy that required the developer to put in the street lights uh since since we passed the original policy uh to do uh [2:05:23, 2:05:43]: Require street lighting, and certainly we need to follow suit in order to do that because you just don't see wooden poles in a brand new development. And like I said, as I said, I think I'm certainly in favor of not just doing it in the one district, I'm certainly in favor of doing it in everybody's district. So when you have [2:05:43, 2:06:03]: Have a new development, we don't have wooden bent pole poles 20 years from now or 15 years from now, or the poles started to fade, or they started to do that. You don't see that when you go in. When we went to Avalon, did you see any wooden poles? When you went to the battery, did you see any wooden poles? When we went to Peachtree City, [2:06:03, 2:06:23]: Did you see the wooden pole? You saw metal poles beside in commercial areas. And that is what is called a best practice. And certainly I think we should go down that road of putting metal poles. And there, if you go down Jodeco as I do every single day, there aren't multiple poles. [2:06:23, 2:06:43]: At the roadside. There aren't. They don't exist. They're not there. So you put the metal because when they built Jodeco, there aren't any wooden poles along the street. There aren't any. Neither side. The only poles that are in Jodoku are in the front of development. They're about 50 feet off the road. There's no [2:06:43, 2:06:45]: polls at the road, zero. [2:06:46, 2:07:04]: If you actually went over there and you looked, you would see there are no poles on either side of Jodeco right at the road. Zero. That's why there's no street lights there. Because nobody the county didn't want to take on that expense, and neither did we. But certainly what needs to happen is it would be just like [2:07:04, 2:07:24]: Uh a new development as you described, Ms. Gantt, you would have uh the sidewalk there because eventually we will have a multi-use path there if everything goes right, and then you have the the metal sidewalk beside it. But the what was described to us is not accurate. There won't be multiple poles there. There are no poles at the Zach Street. [2:07:24, 2:07:42]: street side of Jodeco. The poles are about 40 feet off the road. So if you put the light up on the existing poles, those existing poles are 40 feet off the road. That's not what we're accustomed to anywhere, putting street lights 40 feet 40 to 50 feet off the road. [2:07:43, 2:07:46]: So otherwise what it understands is that what you're talking about [2:07:46, 2:08:06]: There's a policy the county passed, but we don't have a particular policy in our city. And you're indicating we should follow suit. Is that what you're talking about? I'm indicating that we should follow suit and make that a policy in in commercial areas, not just in my district. The reason that I suggested that this be done, and certainly I consulted with Mr. Gardner as well, to to do that. [2:08:06, 2:08:09]: And Mr Garner, let me get your take. [2:08:21, 2:08:24]: Good evening once again. So [2:08:25, 2:08:32]: As an industry standard, most major shopping center developments that have street lights, they're usually decorative. They don't put up wooden poles. [2:08:32, 2:08:51]: um inside the development. Now what serves that is a different thing, um, off the major roads. Um so as it relates to that, I think that's we can control that with design standards, obviously. Um, but as it relates to your regular roadways, Jodoko Roads, um [2:08:53, 2:08:56]: Old cornyous, Eastern Ladder, you know. [2:08:57, 2:09:17]: Those roads obviously, if you put lights in, you're gonna have lights in between existing poles that are gonna be and you see that right out here to some extent. Um you'll see the decorative um acorn lights, but right next to it you see the regular pole. Um just taking your high tension and high high capacity. [2:09:17, 2:09:20]: capacity, electricity um [2:09:21, 2:09:29]: So if we're talking about doing that on streetways, uh that's gonna get expensive, especially if the city is doing that. I want the city to understand. [2:09:29, 2:09:35]: We're we're almost in the million dollar range with providing street lights. [2:09:36, 2:09:47]: Right. So the more you add, the more you add. Right? So I want that to be understood. It does not come for free. I think he already pointed out that there's a cost. [2:09:47, 2:10:07]: Right. And most of your major corridors, and we just spoke about this the other night with Miss Sherry. Um, the the county is now looking at CIDs as a means to make some of these improvements, and those improvements are being born will be borne by the commercial developments within those corridors. Right? They can [2:10:07, 2:10:10]: Can tax themselves up to two mils of tax. [2:10:10, 2:10:16]: Um and then they use that to match other monies out there to make some of these improvements happen that we typically see. [2:10:16, 2:10:21]: Um and elsewhere. So that's something that they said is steadily moving forward. [2:10:21, 2:10:41]: as they design that program, they will be getting with us at the city level. Um those CIDs are typically um private entities set up. They don't really they have boards that run them. They hire their own directors, their own staff. But definitely that's the way to go. [2:10:41, 2:10:57]: for some of our major corridors as we see development happening. Hopefully they can get that up and running. But, you know, where we can make some improvements, it makes sense. And and yes, every district is not gonna be the same unless we have a redevelopment of a project. [2:10:57, 2:10:58]: Right. [2:10:58, 2:11:01]: Um uh you know in in the case of [2:11:02, 2:11:11]: Three of our major districts, you're not gonna see major large scale commercial developments, right? Outside of this downtown area. [2:11:11, 2:11:15]: Um in Miss Uh Barbers District unless we add on more land. [2:11:16, 2:11:23]: By annexing, you're probably not gonna see it. You're not gonna see it in Mr. Berry's district. You're not gonna see it in Mr. Alfonso's district because they're literally landlocked. [2:11:24, 2:11:25]: Right. Um [2:11:25, 2:11:32]: There is some land left in Miss Gantt district for major development, but even that land is sitting there is constrained by flood. [2:11:33, 2:11:53]: Um right there at the corner of uh Spear Road and Highway 138. Right. Um if we go east on East Atlanta on East Lake Parkway and annex, there's a potential to get something out there, but that would come as part of an annexation in in Ms. Barber's district because the rest of [2:11:53, 2:11:57]: of the property in that district is pretty much either Vulcan or it's residential. [2:11:57, 2:11:58]: Or downtown. [2:11:59, 2:12:01]: Um so we're constrained. Um [2:12:02, 2:12:11]: It it's it's something that should be done city wide if it if it's implemented. I think equity was one of the words that came out. You're right. Right. Um [2:12:11, 2:12:20]: But at the same time I think you have to look at where can you get the best bang for your buck and and we could look at areas because there might be areas where we could fill in. [2:12:20, 2:12:24]: But then again there are areas where you're gonna provide clutter. And let me tell you [2:12:24, 2:12:33]: We just talked about accidents in youths and seniors, right? Imagine when you run off the road and what was once vacant space is now pole. [2:12:35, 2:12:55]: Right. So this is something I think if if it's something we're gonna do city wide, it needs to be looked at more comprehensively rather than council making a automatic decision on it. Um look at if we're gonna look at some of our most major commercial corridors, you're now gonna have the Western parallel connector. Right. [2:12:55, 2:12:57]: Right. So that's gonna come. [2:12:58, 2:13:18]: I think it's incumbent upon us to make sure that that development comes with the necessary decorative poll. Because you're gonna see development off of that road. I would tell you now. Right now it has it has decorative poles on the Western Parallel Connect. But in terms of in keeping that consistency between what you see on Chin Parkway between Mount Olive. [2:13:18, 2:13:22]: what the developers put in out to the front of Jodico as um [2:13:25, 2:13:32]: Mr. Tim Jones developed his project across the street and then the other piece gets developed moving all the way back up but behind the [2:13:33, 2:13:52]: Um McDonald's when it connects to Hudson Bridge. Yes, we need to make sure that we we put decorative lighting on there, that we don't put those crazy looking power poles along that roadway. Um that would help. Um we have some opportunities to do some of that as it relates to [2:13:52, 2:13:53]: Um [2:13:56, 2:13:57]: Not uh [2:13:57, 2:14:04]: Patrick Henry Parkway. Right. Right. Um when we discussed, remember the liens that you currently see now, those are your northbound liens. [2:14:05, 2:14:08]: So if you take where the curb is [2:14:08, 2:14:12]: When you're going south, that's actually where the median is gonna be. You're gonna have two more lanes. [2:14:13, 2:14:18]: So there's an opportunity for that corridor to have some decorative lighting in lieu of some of the poles that are already there. [2:14:19, 2:14:27]: Um that's an opportunity, especially on the side between the interstate and Patrick Henry. So there's an opportunity to do some stuff there or a Santa Median. [2:14:27, 2:14:29]: Something they should have done on East Lake Parkway. [2:14:29, 2:14:31]: Right? [2:14:32, 2:14:40]: And that road is dangerous at night. To me it is. Um but that's what I'm saying. We look at it more comprehensively rather than making a run decision. [2:14:40, 2:14:41]: Um [2:14:42, 2:14:51]: And let's bring something back to you guys where we can show and illustrate areas where there's opportunities to fill in those gaps where it makes sense and to avoid pull clutter. [2:14:52, 2:14:55]: Right. Okay, thank you. Okay, quite with your follow up. [2:14:56, 2:15:16]: For clarification, the cost is up front. Then the cost is based on the lighting, correct? I mean you there's an initial upfront cost, but based on the lighting, you're paying for the lighting cost versus in the the installation one time, correct? We always choose the the zero dollar option. [2:15:15, 2:15:35]: option and just pay the electrical cost because they're gonna recoup their money that way. Right. But there's an upfront option where you possibly spend it a hundred plus thousand dollars and I I don't think that's a good idea because Georgia Power is gonna get their money because the lights gonna stay on all the time versus you paying them [2:15:35, 2:15:43]: for the material up front so that you can reduce your electrical cost by a hundred or two hundred dollars a month. That's really not [2:15:44, 2:16:04]: You know, a cost savings to me. So what we're doing now is we're choosing the zero option with this what we have here, correct? Yes. Right. But then after f subsequent to the upfront cost, you would have uh the electric power bill that you would be paying. Yes. Uh [2:16:04, 2:16:24]: No matter what d material that we chose. But certainly I'm in favor of making it a citywide proposal because when they widen Highway 42 down here, they're gonna have metal poles on it. When they widen Rock Quarry Road, Rock Quarry Road's gonna have metal poles. G DOT, that's what they're doing. [2:16:24, 2:16:37]: All of the road projects that are coming to the city, Rock Quarry, Highway 20, the Western Parallel Connector, they're using metal poles. That's what's going. That's what the standard is. [2:16:37, 2:16:38]: Yeah. [2:16:38, 2:16:58]: Thank you. Mr. Thomas, please. Thank you. I'm going to beg the different a little bit about development in District Two. There are conversations about mixed use, and we just finished talking about a commercial component to the development that's coming right now off of David. [2:16:58, 2:17:03]: So that is why I asked the question originally. [2:17:04, 2:17:24]: uh about citywide because if you go here with it then when this development comes forward then I would think that you know we would just follow suit. But I you know but I understand as Mr. Gardner indicated about the economics of this. I'm just saying let's don't put this [2:17:24, 2:17:27]: out here then when this development coming then well [2:17:27, 2:17:47]: I I just want I just want to be consistent with it because Davidson Parkway is it's coming. Yes, sir. And and that is and and excuse me for forgetting Davison Parkway, but that is a road that literally has uh uh no poles, right? So if at some point we decide to light or some of that combo development can work [2:17:47, 2:18:02]: does develop as commercial. Obviously the interior side of that will be be there. Part of what, because it's already zone commercial, we're gonna have limited say if they stay commercial, because all they're gonna do is submit their plans and go to work. [2:18:02, 2:18:03]: Right. [2:18:03, 2:18:16]: Um so that'll be an opportunity obviously to negotiate. But yes, that's the last last vestige of a m major commercial property. I forgot about that. And I'm looking at the street view right now and there are no poles along that roadway. Yeah. That is correct. [2:18:17, 2:18:19]: Thank you, Mayor. No problem, welcome. Ms. Gamp, please. [2:18:21, 2:18:41]: Um real quick, I'm g I want to follow the recommendation of our city manager, which is to get a um mm basically map out what lights should go where. I don't want everything just thrown up. I I know the price I appreciate you doing your homework and getting what we asked of you for the lights. [2:18:41, 2:18:58]: in the different areas, the whether we're gonna do wood or we're gonna do the iron black and what areas we're gonna do those in and whatever policy we come in place or what we can visualize w what might be whether it's decorative on one uh I don't know. So I'm thinking that we do what [2:18:59, 2:19:01]: Um Mister Gardner had mentioned [2:19:01, 2:19:08]: And make sure that we have one plan together and then we prioritize. [2:19:08, 2:19:10]: Where the lights go up. [2:19:10, 2:19:30]: each you know, uh where they're going. We also need to be aware and concern based off of his statement, we're not in the business of the light business, right? We we need to limit that too, but we all agree that we would have place lights at in major thoroughfare thoroughfare areas. So if for the sake of time [2:19:30, 2:19:50]: And to keep us from going around and around in circles, I think it would be best if the city, I move that we table this item and instruct the city manager and Politworks to come back with us with a like pinpoint. [2:19:50, 2:20:10]: where light certain lights would go if we were to get, you know, the black iron lights in certain areas or not, or we're gonna do all wood, or or what the recommendations are. I say that because I feel like we should get it right the first time and not kind of piecemeal it. I love those off of old [2:20:10, 2:20:30]: What did we say? Old Atlanta Road? East Atlanta. East Old Old Atlanta. Old Atlanta Road. I like those decorative lights. Those lantern look, that lantern look, especially when you have sidewalks and you're going up into I mean it looks like we're you're you're going somewhere really, really nice. I just um I I want us to consider what uh [2:20:30, 2:20:35]: um opportunities we have to get it right the first time and not just spend money. [2:20:35, 2:20:48]: Um, you know, I wanna make sure it's done the right. And then we go from there and make sure that we plan it the right way. And I before I well, I wanna make that motion, the one I just said to table and instruct you guys to [2:20:49, 2:21:01]: provide us with a plan on what lights should go where, whether they're wooding, they're black iron, if they're in a commercial quarter, w whether they should be decorative and lantern in a certain area. I think that would be ideal. And um [2:21:02, 2:21:22]: I also, um, even though I'm saying that motion, we had a uh quote given for one highway one thirty-eight. Highway one thirty-eight alpha exit two twenty-eight is cum is dark, right? But the amount of money they want to put street lights there is astronomical. And that is that [2:21:22, 2:21:29]: uh our job or is that the G uh G Dot's job to put streetlights there? Do you know? [2:21:29, 2:21:39]: That would be ours. That's ours. And what was that estimated quote, do you remember? Two million dollars. Yeah. So and that's w us getting off the exit. [2:21:39, 2:21:59]: into Stockbridge. The very first thing people see, whether it's it's the very first northern, the southern exit coming down seventy five south, or it's the furthest going up north in Stockbridge, and that's that exit two twenty eight, highway one thirty eight. And we got new restaurants coming there, there's a median there. We don't have any turns [2:21:59, 2:22:19]: J turns or any cut throughs and um businesses are complaining about that as well. But that's a big cost, two million dollars. So I just want you guys to r you know keep that in your radar. Maybe we can call talk to G Dot, maybe we can talk to someone or apply for some type of grant or something, but [2:22:19, 2:22:25]: That's a lot of money, but it's n it's well it's needed. That's the entryway to Stockbridge. [2:22:25, 2:22:31]: So just want you to think about that. But I my motion still stands on the floor. Just want you to know that. Okay. [2:22:31, 2:22:51]: It's I don't know if the Mr. Berry wanted to speak. I did I just wanted to add on and I I agree with um Councilwoman Barber to a T that it would be perfect for us to have some level of uniformity across the entire city and not hodgepodge. You know, Stark Bridge needs to look together, needs to be uniform, and so the lighting needs to be a representation of that. I just wanted to add [2:22:51, 2:22:52]: Yeah. [2:22:53, 2:23:10]: You said Barber, I think you I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He saw my hand. I saw her hand. I did see her hand. Yeah. I'm s I apologize. And but I did want to add, um, and this is just a point of observation, and uh I don't see any representation of district three. [2:23:10, 2:23:15]: in any other w road lightings and I don't you know, I just wanna advocate. [2:23:16, 2:23:19]: and lobby for my district to also be included in [2:23:19, 2:23:39]: The process of placing these lights. I see everyone else's district represented. I do not see my own. I have to advocate for district three to have some lights, especially on flipping roads. That is correct. Because it is one of the darkest roads in the city. And it is also a cut through a major thoroughfare. [2:23:39, 2:23:50]: when when the interstate is backed up, people shoot up flipping road and they come up there and I'm also getting constant complaints of how dark it is. That's second emotion. And so I have to say that. [2:23:50, 2:24:10]: We will we will look at all of the districts and and make make when we come back with that comprehensive, hopefully be able to show uh illustration on mapping and road street views so you guys will see exactly what what it would look like if we put those lights up. So um give us a month or two and we'll bring that back to you guys. All right. [2:24:10, 2:24:15]: Okay, set motion to the second to further discussion. Thank you for that. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. Yes. [2:24:15, 2:24:17]: My hand was raised before the motion. [2:24:18, 2:24:20]: However, I want to ask [2:24:20, 2:24:21]: Mr. Aaron. [2:24:22, 2:24:25]: I know last year there were street lights installed. [2:24:25, 2:24:27]: On Spear Road and Campground Road. [2:24:28, 2:24:32]: Can you tell me how many street lights were installed on Spear Road? I know about [2:24:32, 2:24:33]: Thirty. [2:24:33, 2:24:38]: I don't have that in front of me right now. It's about thirty. I count it. I can send it to you. Um [2:24:39, 2:24:42]: Can you tell me how many were installed on Campground Road? [2:24:42, 2:24:46]: I don't have this in front that in front of me, but I can email it to you. [2:24:47, 2:24:51]: Okay, and the reason why I'm asking is because last year [2:24:51, 2:24:52]: I was advocating. [2:24:52, 2:24:54]: First City Council District Four. [2:24:54, 2:25:00]: There are a number of streets um that have been newly annexed into the city. [2:25:00, 2:25:02]: That do not have street lights. [2:25:03, 2:25:05]: I think we need to be prioritizing. [2:25:06, 2:25:09]: The areas in which we will be installing street lights. [2:25:10, 2:25:22]: Um since we installed street lights on Spear Road, that's in City Council District One last year, and we also installed street lights on Campground Road last year, that's in [2:25:22, 2:25:24]: Council of District Five. [2:25:25, 2:25:29]: We need to focus on the other areas that don't have any lights. [2:25:29, 2:25:31]: But Davis Road is one of them. [2:25:32, 2:25:37]: Valley Hill Road is another and Shields Road is another. [2:25:37, 2:25:42]: I know Walt Stevens has very few lights right now, if any. [2:25:42, 2:25:46]: But they do have commercial irritants on Walt Stevens. There is lighting. [2:25:47, 2:25:49]: Valley Hero, there is no commercial. [2:25:50, 2:25:51]: There are no lights. [2:25:52, 2:25:53]: Same with [2:25:53, 2:25:54]: Davis Road. [2:25:54, 2:25:56]: So when I [2:25:56, 2:25:58]: Was pretty persistent. [2:25:58, 2:26:05]: about making sure that you all take a look at these newly annexed areas for lights. I expected that [2:26:06, 2:26:23]: Valley Hill, Davis Road, and Shills Road would be included on your list. They were thank they were. Thank you, I appreciate that. But I'm just thrown off that here we are again now with Walt Stevens Road, fifty nine lights, and Jodico Road. [2:26:24, 2:26:28]: It's twenty five lights, if not more. No. Twenty five. [2:26:29, 2:26:44]: Forty-eight lights. No. So we need to be prioritizing this. So so I certainly do support tabling this and having you all to bring us back a plan on how you all are gonna roll out. [2:26:45, 2:26:48]: installing these new street lights and ensuring [2:26:48, 2:26:49]: Each district. [2:26:51, 2:26:53]: has lights installed. [2:26:55, 2:27:15]: So the number of lights is not determined by the city, it's determined by the photometric analysis that Georgia Power conducts and that determines how many lights are installed. It's not we arbitrarily say we're gonna put fifty on this road or twenty-five. And I understand that. But my in in this proposal we did get proposals for Valley Hill Road, David's [2:27:15, 2:27:32]: Road and Shields Road. Did you not get a proposal for Valley Hill Road, Davis Road and Shields Road last year at the same time that you got lights for Spear Road and Camp Brown Road? They were already in the city prior to Valley Hill and these other roads, but when we were tasked to get [2:27:33, 2:27:44]: Proposals for those roles, they're on this list that was tabled. Is Valley Hill Road is on here, Davis Road and Shields rolls for life. So what I'm saying is last year [2:27:45, 2:27:50]: You're saying that Valley Hill Road, Davis Road and Shields Road was not on the list. Okay. [2:27:51, 2:27:56]: That's fine. This year they are. But I wanna know why, once again, [2:27:57, 2:28:04]: Walt Stevens Road and Campground Road, those had streetlights installed last year. [2:28:04, 2:28:05]: No other area. [2:28:06, 2:28:09]: had street lights installed other than this downtown area. [2:28:10, 2:28:12]: But the other areas did not. [2:28:12, 2:28:14]: I just want to make sure. [2:28:14, 2:28:21]: That we are investing in all districts and not just specific areas. [2:28:22, 2:28:22]: That's all. [2:28:23, 2:28:40]: Thank you. Ms. Gangoy, please. Thank you. Um in in rebuttal to that or just a response to that, I hope that we prioritize roads. I mean the lighting of roads, just like we prioritize our streets on what needs to be repaved. And having said that, [2:28:41, 2:28:47]: Walt Stevens is a extremely busy road and it's in district three and it's in district one. [2:28:47, 2:28:50]: і із екстримли бізі. [2:28:50, 2:28:55]: And when you get off uh y you as we already know um [2:28:55, 2:29:00]: And th at least three council members have lived on Walt Stevens. [2:29:00, 2:29:00]: Um [2:29:02, 2:29:22]: That that road is used now as a cut through to get to the interstate. That the interstate's always backed up. And so flipping and Walt Stevens is it. And it's dark, and people are walking more. People, um, the the road is just extremely [2:29:22, 2:29:42]: Extremely busy, even in the middle of the day, but especially at night, and it's dark, and the commercial piece is all the way up where the lights maybe connect right there at the spear road. But there's a need for Walt Stevens to have street lights, and the number of lights are based off of the poles. [2:29:41, 2:29:52]: Somebody, we're not no one's getting a a privilege here. And I I think that that goes to say for just to be fair across the board. [2:29:53, 2:29:59]: You go based off of the volume of the amount of vehicles that are passing those roads every day. [2:30:00, 2:30:14]: That's what I would base it off of. I would base it off of the priorities of how many vehicles are are driving down those roads every day. There's a school right there. There's the largest subdivision probably in Henry County right there. [2:30:14, 2:30:34]: Which has a lot of kids that walk up and down the street right there. And you have the same thing whether they're driving through downtown to get downtown or whatever the roads may be. We have to consider it based off of volume, not based off of what council member got uh district it is and had a road [2:30:34, 2:30:40]: you know, have the lights up in whatever area. It needs to be based off of of priority, based off of volume. [2:30:41, 2:30:51]: Okay, thank you. Uh Miss uh Miss Holiday, uh you have the motion was made in action mo mo made by Miss Gad, second by Mr. Thomas. Could you read back that motion to make sure we have it correct, please? [2:30:52, 2:31:03]: I have a motion to table and instruct the city manager and the public works director to uh recommend a plan and not piecemeal on. [2:31:05, 2:31:22]: Okay. Uh is that what your motion is stand, sir. Ma ma'am. I'm sorry, Miss Scant. Okay, so map out a plan on where the lights will go and also prioritize the areas where they'll be installed. And what type of lights? Right. What what type of lights and poles? [2:31:22, 2:31:23]: I have wooden metal [2:31:26, 2:31:46]: Correct. Okay. And also I would like to see I wanna know how many poles are along the roadside'cause the act the information we were given on Jodico is incorrect. So if someone could go out and actually count the poles and how far they're off the roadway so that we can be accurate with [2:31:46, 2:32:06]: Okay, that's not part of her motion. She I would like her to add that to it because if you s to make that determination, you need if there's no poles at the street side, or you you might make a different decision if there was twenty-five poles at the street side already. So the decision would be different if there was already wooden poles there. [2:32:06, 2:32:26]: versus no polls uh being uh at this particular location. And in and as a part of my discussion, let me say this and I'm gonna respond to you, Councilwoman Barber. Nobody was talking about street lights until I started asking. Nobody. So we moved that forward into doing what we were doing and we did it citywide. Nobody was [2:32:26, 2:32:46]: was talking about metal poles. And we wouldn't be talking about metal poles now had I not suggested it. But it is a good idea, not just for me. It's a good idea for all of us. Because it's gonna make all of us look good. So I'm glad that you made the suggestion that we do it citywide, because that was my intent anyway. I thought [2:32:45, 2:33:05]: Everybody would follow suit. Certainly I would never say do anything only for District 5. But when you see it and it happens and people start saying street lights, and your constituents say, What about me? Then everybody says, I need streetlights. And I certainly agree with the preface, it's need. When you get off a highway, and I've [2:33:05, 2:33:25]: Been saying this, and you know, for the longest. When you get off highway 138, it's black dark. That estimate is ridiculous. I don't believe that. I don't. I don't believe the estimate is two million dollars. I believe that we could we should go back and ask. Um that's that that two million dollar estimate must include the X. [2:33:25, 2:33:31]: the exit ramps because there's not that many more poles along Highway 138. [2:33:32, 2:33:52]: Than the extra one. So I would ask that, you know, I would ask you to say the same thing. Go back and get another estimate. Because when we were talking to Tyler Peake about that, that estimate included the ramps. It didn't just include the areas along Highway 138. Because GDOT should be responsible for the areas on the ramps. That estimate. [2:33:52, 2:34:12]: Estimate is ridiculous at two million dollars. That cannot be right. Because if we put fifty-nine lights along highway one thirty eight like we're doing Walt Stevens, wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't that don't you think that would work? Okay, I'm not gonna let me let me interject here. Okay, why don't we do this? A couple things. And why don't we keep her motion as it is? If you want another motion, we can have another motion. [2:34:12, 2:34:29]: motion after that instead of adding that to it unless she really wants to add that. Well I already had motion already. I just wanted to add the por I went on commentary. I just wanted to add the portion of the counting the polls. That's up to her Sir Motion. I'm just making a recommendation that we just go forward and we can do a separate motion on that if you want. And uh Mr uh Thomas go ahead please [2:34:29, 2:34:33]: I was going to recommend um has been motioned. [2:34:33, 2:34:53]: Has been second. Right. I was just gonna call for the vote. I do believe in the motion and in the directive, all of this information will come back and we can make the adjustment. Also, let me add, for the record, uh the lanterns on ML King here. [2:34:53, 2:35:07]: Trail was in 2015. Okay. So this was out there, uh Councilman Alexander, before that. I just want to state that for the record. But I called for the motion. All right. So the motion made, Miss Second. All favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:35:09, 2:35:26]: All favor of the motion, current motion, please. I call for the vote, in other words, yes. Excuse me, sir. Okay. All okay, it's the unanimous decision on that note. I did want to ask the council to ask and I and I would just say whether we direct staff. [2:35:26, 2:35:46]: to just have an assessment as a part of the assessment that you would know how many poles are currently there and what we gotta add. I would just ask you to do that as part of the process that you would let us know so we when we're making the decision that we would know whether a wooden poles already [2:35:46, 2:35:58]: there, metal poles already there, or no poles uh already there. I think I would just like to sa i if we could just ask Mr Gardner if that could be part or Mr Aaron if there could just be a part of it. [2:35:58, 2:36:00]: Okay, he thumbs up. [2:36:00, 2:36:20]: Okay. All right. So is there a second to that motion? There's no oh it's not a motion. It's just a director. Just a director. Okay, fine. So be it. Okay. Okay, fine. We're we're good. All right. Thank you. What we have next, council consideration to fill a vacancy to appoint a member of the citywide authority board to serve an unexpired term. Mr. Gardner. And what I like to say [2:36:20, 2:36:37]: [9397.7, 9409.7]: We're t we're talking about uh we're talking about a appointment to the city wide authority board and you have three people buying for one position. Is this my recommendation that we thought we had two. I thought we had two. There are three in my book. [2:36:50, 2:36:55]: Oh I th no, we got more I know we need a d we there's more than one position available. [2:36:56, 2:37:16]: Not a citywide authority board. There's only there's only one individual with vacancy. It's my understanding. But go ahead, sir. With this one, Mr. Mayor and Council, we've looked at the open records exemptions. And open records would be exempt for people that would be full-time employees and department heads for those discussions, but I don't think it would apply to a bit I don't think it would apply to appointment. [2:37:16, 2:37:36]: For boards. Okay, so otherwise you're saying we can't go into exactly session and discuss this then. Not for this one, no. And I can I can quote the one that I'm I'm referencing, but we've been looking, we've been taking a closer look at the open records exemptions. And for personnel, it's for you can have discussions about full-time employees and department heads and acceptance of offers. [2:37:36, 2:37:51]: and all that, but that's that's in executive session, but appointments for just regular non full time staff boards. So if we can't legally do that, so be it then. So we got three people for one position. Mr Gardner, go ahead. If you need to explain anything any further. [2:37:51, 2:38:05]: So good afternoon good evening, Mayor and Council. Once again, you have uh one vacancy on the Citywide Development Authority Board and three applicants. You have the resume and the application for Miss Ivy Spear. [2:38:06, 2:38:07]: Miss Kim Mae. [2:38:08, 2:38:28]: And Mr. Antonio Gordon. Each one of those are business owners, uh real estate agents as well. So in reference to that, uh to their applications that you have before you, um, we just need a consensus on which one you think would be best to serve for in the city. [2:38:28, 2:38:33]: [9514.6, 9516.1]: Suppose there's only one. [2:38:37, 2:38:39]: [9520.9, 9522.5]: You have Chair Shaw. [2:38:43, 2:38:45]: Vice Chair Samuels. [2:38:47, 2:38:55]: Treasurer is Gatson Woodow. Secretary is Mark Glenn. [2:38:57, 2:39:01]: And then we have um Miss Terry Gleaton. [2:39:02, 2:39:04]: Okay, Council Member Gantt. [2:39:06, 2:39:10]: So you have was created by Mr. Morgan, who resigned. [2:39:10, 2:39:19]: So let me ask you a question. Can we increase the number of people on the board? Yes, you can. You the law states you can have no less than seven and no more than nine. [2:39:20, 2:39:29]: Let's let's do that. Let's increase the number of people on there.'Cause they always seem like they're having somebody uh out that's what I suggest that we increase the number on the board. [2:39:29, 2:39:33]: So we okay, well but you you're saying that can we legally do it at this point? [2:39:34, 2:39:46]: And Miss Gantt, you're the representative from this particular board. If you have any particular comment wanna get a legal opinion and of course you're a legal your attorney as well, but wanna get your thoughts on this since you're the representative to the to the board itself. [2:39:49, 2:40:09]: Two I believe two of the applicants listed the development authority or just uh some type of reference to willingness of the development authority and one applicant didn't say development authority, they said c uh board of ethics. Even though they said they would go with something else. [2:40:09, 2:40:16]: At least two of them. Um and then this is kinda tough. I'm used to being able to discuss this. Um [2:40:18, 2:40:19]: So [2:40:20, 2:40:25]: I don't object to adding an additional seat on the board. [2:40:26, 2:40:26]: Um [2:40:28, 2:40:48]: If we can do that, I don't object to that. But um I do see that that the first two candidates actually are listed somewhat or alluded somewhat to the development authority board. Okay. Mr Mr. Washington, sir. We can we can do that, Mayor and Council. We just need to have noticed it beforehand on the agenda that you all [2:40:48, 2:40:51]: we're going to take up expanding the size of the board. [2:40:52, 2:41:12]: Oh I don't know. Okay. So you can have you can have a discussion about it, but if you're going to do that, then that just needs to be noticed as an activity that y'all are going to do at that you all are gonna do at the next meeting. Yeah. Next meeting. We can't do it tonight, it's what you must do. Right. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. If we can, um development authority board meets tomorrow and I'll be able to get a little bit more clarity. [2:41:12, 2:41:32]: I would like to talk to the board. Okay. Um, it's a pretty strong board. They're they have their opinions and they'll let us know their recommendation on whether or not they want to add additional seats or not. Okay. Um I tried to message Ms. Shaw. Um, I haven't received a response back right now, so I wouldn't move [2:41:32, 2:41:40]: That we table this item into the next um into the work session. All right. Is there a second to that motion? Sir, ms mr second. All in favor, please indicate. [2:41:42, 2:41:48]: Yeah, ms b Mr Berry seconded. It's the unanimous decision. Thank you very much. All right. So be it. There we go. [2:41:48, 2:42:05]: All right, announcements of upcoming meetings in advance. Council meetings will be held, the city council chamber meeting dates, location, and time subject to change. Uh contact the city hall offices at 770-389-7900 or visit the website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. [2:42:05, 2:42:25]: Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, May 14th, which is tomorrow, right? The Planning Commission meeting third Thursday of each month, 630 P.M. City Hall Council Chambers, May 16th. The Downtown Development Authority meeting third Tuesday of each month. Welcome Center 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail. [2:42:25, 2:42:45]: May 21st. New Council Advisory Committee meeting 6:30 third Tuesday of each month. Levi Meeting Room City Hall Chambers May 21st. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, 6 o'clock P.M. City Council Chambers, May 28th. Stockbridge Citizens Police Academy Council meeting first Thursday. [2:42:45, 2:43:05]: Of each month, 6 p.m. And it says Stockbridge Police Community Room 4545 North Avenue Boulevard June 6th. City Council meeting second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, June 10th. New council meeting second Monday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, June 10th. Main Street Advisory Board Meeting [2:43:05, 2:43:25]: Second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. location Downtown Connection Center 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail June 14th. Upcoming upcoming city events and initiatives. Food truck tasty Tuesday is back. Join us at Clark Park at 111 Davis Road, Stockbridge on Tuesday from 5:00. [2:43:25, 2:43:45]: Thirty, eight p.m. for live music, great food, host of free games and activities for the kids. Joins Councilman Alfonso Thomas for the monthly senior bingo bash on Wednesday, May 15th at 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merrill Manor's Conference Center. 111 Davis Row for Raffles, Prizes, Games, Snacks, and Fun. Join Councilman [2:43:45, 2:44:05]: woman uh Lakeisha Gantt for partnership with Atlanta Food Truck Park for a night market at the Starbury Amphitheater parking lot from 6 p.m. to 9 30 p.m each third Thursday beginning May 16th, which is this week, August uh two through August 15th. There will be 40 plus vendors, food trucks, activities, games, music, and vibes. [2:44:05, 2:44:25]: Contact tan Bowers at tan at Atlanta Foodtruck Park dot com for registration and additional information. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Monday, uh May 20th from ten a.m. to noon, twelve noon at Stockbridge City Hall. Join the city of Stockbridge for the annual memorial march on Monday. [2:44:25, 2:44:45]: Monday, May 27th, the Merle Manders Conference Center, as we remember those who gave the ultimate sacrifice. Stay tuned for the city's website and social media platform for more information to participate and contact the events team at 770-389-5982. Please mark your calendars for the Main Street movie night at Clark Park, Friday, June 14th. [2:44:45, 2:45:05]: With free games and activities starting at 6 p.m. The featured film is a migration and will begin around dusk that evening. Save the dates for Councilwoman Yolanda Barber and is once again partnering with the Kix for Kids to collect shoes on Saturday, July 6th and Sunday, the 7th at Stockbridge First United Methodist. [2:45:05, 2:45:22]: church. Uh please plan to donate uh what you can for the life changing initiative. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stock Bridge Initiative centered around education highlighting the causes for effects of liter alliterate and urging. That's a question. Yes your question says when is there actually gonna be a don't trash stock bridge event? [2:45:23, 2:45:39]: Uh uh okay, well uh that is something that uh Mr Thomas will have to answer at this point. But let me continue on with the message here. Councilman Thomas says honored veterans with the council continuous salute for all year long. Please send any your pictures of veterans with their name, branch, rank, and years of service. [2:45:40, 2:45:55]: Please contact Rawls and Rawls. Once again, a schedule appointment will meet the mayor for m more information on council initiatives and events. Call her at 678-833-3348 or by email ralls at starbridge-ga-a dot or g. [2:45:55, 2:46:15]: Once again, the 2024 Stockbridge Empathy concert series is posted right now. Matter of fact, we just had uh wonderful concert for Mother's Day weekend just this past Saturday with Eric Penney, Isaiah Tatum, and and uh Tyrese. Uh Saturday, May 25th, funk party featuring Zap band, Evelyn Champagne King. [2:46:15, 2:46:33]: Rolls Royce and the Rick James Stone City Band. Now, as you may know, Rick James has passed away, but the Stone City Band is still going strong. Saturday, June 8th, TLC celebrating the 30th anniversary of Crazy Sexy Cool album with guests, uh special guests, Brownstone. They were here last year and did a wonderful job performing. [2:46:34, 2:46:44]: Saturday, July thirteenth and Sunday, July 14th, a night with Kim and special guest Leela James. Saturday, July twentieth, ladies' nights out, featuring Jodice, Johnny Gill, and Silk. [2:46:45, 2:47:05]: Stockbridge, excuse me, Saturday, July 27th, the 70 Soul Jam featuring shy lights, the Manhattan's legendary blue notes, bloodstone, peach, and herb, and that particular activity will everybody comes dressed in white. There's a StockbridgeAMP.com. Once again, StockbridgeAMP.com to get your tickets. And uh I want to mention [2:47:04, 2:47:24]: To you, everybody. Happy belated Mother's Day. Hopefully, all you mothers out there had a wonderful time with your families and loved ones. I've already met a Memorial Day weekend. We already talked about that walk coming up, and of course, a concert that weekend as well. And uh, counsel, what I'd like to ask is that we go into executive session for at least a personnel issue. I don't know if any legal or um real estate issue, but definitely a personnel. [2:47:24, 2:47:25]: [10047.7, 10051.4]: Mayor, I move that we go into executive session for personnel matter. [2:47:31, 2:47:33]: Okay, thank you very much. In a second. [2:47:34, 2:47:35]: Is there a second? [2:47:36, 2:47:39]: Okay, ms uh mister uh Berry Segond, all favor please indicate. [2:47:41, 2:47:47]: Okay. All in favor? All of everybody's in favor? Will you navigate sitting here? Okay. We'll go on a second set. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. We'll be back. [2:48:20, 2:48:24]: Council, I need a motion to end the second session, please. So moved. Is there a second? [2:48:24, 2:48:27]: Ms. Okay, from Miss Gantt to Miss Barber. [2:48:27, 2:48:29]: All in favor, please indicate. [2:48:29, 2:48:39]: All all favors, please indicate. Uh, looks like we have a unanimous decision here. Now I need a motion to reconvene a council meeting, please. Some move. Is there a second, Miss Barber? Second it from Miss Ganttham, Miss Barber, all in favor, please indicate. [2:48:40, 2:48:45]: All right done. On that mo on that I need a motion to end our council meeting tonight. So moved. Is there a second? [2:48:45, 2:48:48]: Okay, Mr. Barr second it from Miss Gantton. Ms. Barber, all favor, please indicate. [2:48:49, 2:48:54]: We are now well by have nothing to report, but we're now count we're now ending our meeting. God bless you all. Good night.

--- title: Work Session date: 2024-04-30 source: 2024-04-30_Work_Session.wav --- [0:00:13, 0:00:15]: Okay. [0:00:15, 0:00:17]: Okay, Madam Clerk, you good? All right. [0:00:18, 0:00:20]: Okay. Uh appreciate it. [0:00:23, 0:00:25]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. [0:00:26, 0:00:29]: I have uh six oh one actually I have six oh one. [0:00:30, 0:00:37]: And so I'd like to call our council work session, uh today was the thirtieth of September, uh to order. [0:00:38, 0:00:42]: And on that note, the invocation if you please stand for Mayor Pro Tamberry, do you give invocation please? [0:00:43, 0:00:45]: Yes, sir. [0:00:45, 0:00:49]: Yeah. Huh? Ape that' what I say, main? A [0:00:50, 0:01:10]: April April thirtieth. April. April thirty. All right, last day of April. Okay. Go ahead, please. Let us pray. Right. Eternal God, our Father, we thank you tonight. We thank you for this and we pray. Amen. Amen. You pledge allegiance? Pledge allegiance to the flag, United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God. [0:01:10, 0:01:13]: Invisible with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:14, 0:01:15]: Roll call, Madam Clerk, please. [0:01:17, 0:01:27]: Good evening. Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Timberry. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilwoman Barber. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:01:29, 0:01:32]: Let the record reflect, Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. [0:01:33, 0:01:39]: Councilman Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a core. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Mayor Pro Tem Bor Berry, please. [0:01:39, 0:01:47]: Yes, uh Mr. Mayor, we do have staff requesting that item number five be deferred for the May thirteenth council meeting. [0:01:47, 0:01:50]: Okay, I number five is this new business be deferred. [0:01:51, 0:02:11]: What's it number five? No, item number five. Deals with the Georgia Power Lightning. I want to understand what it is. They made a recommendation, so I'm taking the vote. Motion has been made in the second. Let's say it's up or down. We don't need to discuss it at the point. [0:02:11, 0:02:20]: Okay, fine. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. If I may ask for the reason, reason why we're deferring it. [0:02:23, 0:02:28]: It's it's a staff recommendation. Mr. Aaron's right there. Can we have him come up and and tell us why he's right there? [0:02:30, 0:02:32]: Okay, one second, please. [0:02:32, 0:02:34]: You do all uh [0:02:38, 0:02:49]: I I understand it, sir. All right. Right now, staff made a recommendation. No need to go in this discussion because we're then going to start opening up all kind can of worms. If it's uh up or down. The motion was made, it's been seconded. [0:02:50, 0:02:52]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:02:52, 0:02:54]: The motion deals with uh item number five. [0:02:54, 0:03:00]: be deferred until thir staff recommend item five be deferred until thirteenth of uh May. [0:03:00, 0:03:03]: We don't know what it is. I don't know why. [0:03:05, 0:03:05]: Okay. [0:03:05, 0:03:08]: Deals with lighting, street power street lighting. [0:03:09, 0:03:09]: Yeah. [0:03:10, 0:03:10]: Okay. [0:03:11, 0:03:12]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:03:14, 0:03:21]: I'm okay with that. Okay. I'll oppose. I abstain. Okay, four zero one. Motion's been passed. Four zero one. May thirteenth would be it. [0:03:23, 0:03:29]: All right, um on that note, five is out. [0:03:33, 0:03:39]: Now I need a motion to uh to um to approve the agenda for the this evening, please. [0:03:43, 0:03:45]: Mr Barnes will move. Is there a second? [0:03:47, 0:03:49]: Okay, Mr. Thomas Second Offer, please indicate. [0:03:51, 0:03:54]: Okay, it's been an announced decision. Thank you very much. Let's move on. [0:03:55, 0:04:06]: All right, what you have before a review of the minutes. Review of the April 8th minutes council meeting at that time. To review those, we'll approve this at our next council meeting in May. [0:04:06, 0:04:07]: Okay. [0:04:08, 0:04:11]: Uh Madam Clerk, any comments, uh public uh comments at all? [0:04:15, 0:04:16]: Okay. [0:04:20, 0:04:27]: Okay, thank you very much. On a quarter reporting, first quarter transportation update presented by Mr Gonzalez. Sir please sir. [0:04:44, 0:04:47]: And welcome back, by the way, sir. [0:05:27, 0:05:30]: [333.0, 334.3]: That doesn't make more sense. [0:05:34, 0:05:37]: Well wait, wait, I got it confused. I got it confused. [0:05:40, 0:05:45]: Oh nothing to do with the streetlights. Nothing. We got the way from work. [0:05:50, 0:05:54]: [355.0, 375.0]: Um today uh presented uh for the update from my reputation advisory group. Um we discussed the past few months. It's pretty some of the ongoing and just give you an update. Um some being project updates. Um one of the previous uh meetings we had [0:06:14, 0:06:29]: was with some questions about the uh the uh impact study for i certainly five commercial vehicle is i have an update off that um some transit uh service updates uh transport change planning and then um just some other member thought [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: Yes, ma'am. [0:06:34, 0:06:39]: Do not can you hear me now? Okay. [0:06:40, 0:06:42]: One of the things with uh [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Uh little blind here. [0:06:47, 0:07:07]: One of the updates we have here are the major projects around the city. Um one, the major one being unfortunately the Rock Quarry Road project being delayed till September 2024 due to uh environmental permitting. Um it's just uh we'll keep an update on that if if anything changes. Uh the Western Parallel Project uh [0:07:07, 0:07:27]: Connector. Um G Dots almost finished uh acquiring the the right-away on that. Hendry County staff has been helping with that. Uh the new interchange at I-75 at Bethlehem Road is still scheduled for construction at twenty-twenty-five. Um and then there was a c I think I'll be there was comments on uh State Route 42 widening. Um [0:07:26, 0:07:41]: One of them, the one that goes from the the Walmart at 138 to I six I six seventy five will be completed uh twenty twenty seven. Um the other one's a long term uh product uh state route uh forty two widening. [0:07:44, 0:07:55]: Another update we had was that there was the LMIG projects that were awarded in February. So you'll saw send some paving around the county for those projects. [0:07:59, 0:08:19]: One of the updates provided here would be the I-75 commercial vehicle lane. There was concern about the the tie-in, the end of the project uh at one, say Route 155, how it would be the impact when the once construction is open on that. Um, the overall uh summary of the study that was completed. [0:08:19, 0:08:29]: tweeted uh spot sponsored by the county is that the new project will not adversely affect the local traffic. And one of the main reasons is [0:08:30, 0:08:50]: Let's see if the plan come up. Main reason is that the project being two lanes of commercial vehicle lanes will begin in in Macon and drop down to one lane around the Bethlehem uh road interchange section and it'll become a one-lane. [0:08:50, 0:09:00]: lane auxiliary lane for about three miles. So that'll allow the opportunity for vehicles to come in and out of of that particular lane as the uh as the traffic emerges. [0:09:02, 0:09:09]: These are some, this is the the location where it should begin the lane drop at the interchange. [0:09:11, 0:09:19]: As it goes down about two about two point eight miles, a little less than three miles, it will drop off at uh the summit exit. [0:09:19, 0:09:22]: But then pick up again uh on the on ramp. [0:09:23, 0:09:33]: Uh to I seventy five from the summit exit to uh two eighteen. Um there'll be a one mile stretch, uh another opportunity for vehicles to come in and out to merge. [0:09:38, 0:09:39]: Oh see what [0:09:46, 0:09:48]: Another update we had was the transit. [0:09:48, 0:09:49]: Let's go. [0:09:50, 0:09:51]: Yes. Yes, councilman. [0:09:56, 0:10:10]: Is the the two point eight miles that once uh becomes one lane from a after just north of Bethlehem will become one lane, uh new lane, all the way and it'll drop off. I wonder if I can [0:10:10, 0:10:13]: It'll drop off right at the the off ramp. [0:10:14, 0:10:18]: This there's a whole new new lane coming. I don't know if you can see my my pointer. Um [0:10:20, 0:10:20]: But [0:10:21, 0:10:26]: And then there'd be a gap, but then the the arm ramp. [0:10:26, 0:10:33]: uh to the interstate will actually be instead of be emerging, it will be a auxiliary lane and drop off at the the next exit down. [0:10:33, 0:10:34]: Uh two eighteen. [0:10:38, 0:10:57]: And this was a the study um encompassed uh the h the whole area based on traffic studies, uh using GDOT methodology. Um they came to the conclusion that it will not make it worse, it will it'll actually be improving, but of course it'll be much better if the project ended at I-675. [0:10:57, 0:11:17]: Um unfortunately, if it were to extend, it would be another five hundred and forty million dollars. Plus, if you uh consider the fact that these project is a P3 public-private partnership, it could be close, it would be closer to one point uh four billion or so. That's one of the reasons that it would be ideal. [0:11:17, 0:11:19]: Ideal to extend it all the way to I six seventy five. [0:11:28, 0:11:31]: Uh next updates be the transit update. Um [0:11:32, 0:11:52]: The county, uh the tran uh the transit department uh is operating uh micro transit service within the my uh McDonough zone area. Uh one-way rides are five dollars. Um I don't know if they have plans to expand uh that program. Um Mr. Uh Salters uh with the transit director. [0:11:51, 0:12:06]: H hasn't didn't indicate that yet. Um the other topic is the new fixed route bus service. There were some questions I believe on the last meeting uh where where it would be. Um I did I do have some information. [0:12:07, 0:12:27]: I would have put it on the slides, but I received it after the fact. But there is still tentative. There are there are locations already identified, uh along along uh Patrick Henry coming up to uh Eagles Landing through the air um the hospital through the Rockware Road, um downtown uh Stockbridge, uh all the way [0:12:27, 0:12:47]: Leading to the I-75 uh express park and ride bus location. Okay, excuse me for a second. So the that's the kind of route in which it's taken. So the bus stops along and stop along the route line stop bridge, but you don't have a pinpoint location to share? I have tentative location, uh, but they're they're they're not complete yet, but uh Mr. Salter's uh Ty Salter's. [0:12:47, 0:12:47]: [768.3, 781.8]: Well Henry County provide me just tentative location. I can provide those. I can send that those too. Yeah, I appreciate it. If you can filter that through us through the through the clerk and the city manager, if you can filter that through us so we at least have an idea what points the points you're talking about. Yes, sir. Okay, thank you. [0:13:06, 0:13:23]: The other is the service updates. This again, this is the um uh the fixed route locations. Um we had updates on the uh the next boss that's coming up the with the vote occurring November uh 5th of this year. [0:13:28, 0:13:48]: Another topic we uh we spoke about is uh the county um soliciting funds from ARC, uh federal state federal funds. Um this particular my apologies. Uh this particular chart wasn't complete at the time. I did receive more information, one more closely with the [0:13:48, 0:14:08]: Eagles Landing Project is gonna be close to about ten million dollar resurfacing project with eight million uh sis solicited funds uh from the state uh feds. Um the remainder two million will be split between the county and the city. I believe it's a sixty forty uh match. [0:14:08, 0:14:10]: For that partict. [0:14:13, 0:14:24]: You got you have a question, sir? Yes. Go ahead, please. Is this this is the proposal? It's not been is there or is it been approved? It's not been approved. It's been solicited. It's been submitted. Yes. Thank you. Yes, council. [0:14:28, 0:14:48]: Again, the microservice, the bus stop. Um this particular program that the the the county's uh doing is the uh creative bus stops. Um these are will be part of the uh the fixed bus stop routes. Um Mr. Salters, we actually had our uh uh a regular meeting yesterday. [0:14:48, 0:15:08]: had actually provided more information on those. They're gonna be soliciting information if they have any uh to the city. Um these particular bus stops will actually be more unique to each location, um particularly if it's uh a school, they would like may perhaps put some books, uh have some local artists uh there create each of the bus stops. [0:15:08, 0:15:26]: Um one idea that came about and this is uh was an idea from from the transit director is pr uh having the stop here at the amphitheater, perhaps perhaps put in music or or something, but it's more in discussion with the city. Uh well they will want more input from from the the city on that. [0:15:32, 0:15:52]: Uh another program they're they're uh doing is the the county is the wayfinding plan. It's uh unique um signs uh as as the the county starts to uh develop uh the trails program. These will be signs that people will recognize uh having a uniform color shape for an [0:15:51, 0:15:59]: And it some of them will be part of the different cities will will tell you where you're at on a particular location. So they're they're working on that as well. [0:16:02, 0:16:18]: Uh the this uh the next topic is the connected vehicles technology uh deployment. This is a grant that the county received uh placing devices on fire trucks and at at certain intersections. This is a pilot program. [0:16:18, 0:16:19]: Um [0:16:19, 0:16:36]: It's still not not online. They do they they have been installing it d throughout the county, uh which will um eventually when it comes online uh allow uh emergency vehicles to uh easily uh better uh cross intersections, uh high high capacity or [0:16:38, 0:16:50]: Um in those areas like that. Okay, question for you. On not online yet. The time frame they're waiting for G dot on that one. Um they were [0:16:50, 0:16:57]: Let's see, they haven't had a timeline yet. But I I can find more information on that maybe. Sure, it'd be great if you can. Thank you. [0:17:00, 0:17:01]: That no. [0:17:01, 0:17:02]: All right. [0:17:06, 0:17:26]: There's another uh plan in action with Henry County. Um they received uh grant money for this particular safety action plan. Um these the there's been an increasing amount of traffic incidents in the in the county. Unfortunately, it's going on the wrong trend. So this plan will actually uh help identify. [0:17:26, 0:17:46]: locations, uh of course working with the cities, uh locating uh locations that are uh high accident prone and finding ways to to address those different measures and so this this plan will take a whole bunch of uh not not necessarily a band-aid but try to find ways uh to to improve those locations [0:17:46, 0:17:48]: You know, with the limited uh funds available. [0:17:51, 0:17:57]: I do have a question. It mentioned that the all four cities were invited to participate in that plan. [0:17:58, 0:18:01]: Майстейн є с [0:18:01, 0:18:12]: Well, let me take one that particular program, the safety action, actually they're waiting for FHWA uh to sign off and then they'll they'll be reaching out to the cities on that one. Thank you. [0:18:18, 0:18:38]: And this is uh the last of the topics. One of the things that uh as we uh as the group was developed, we were trying to figure out, feel our way what what roles we have. And one of the things that came about is uh some suggestions either from the the council, mayor, or amongst uh citizens which attend the uh transportation advisory. [0:18:38, 0:18:58]: group and one of them was the traffic impact study on I75. So one of the things is as as we work together and there's there's initiative things, I can uh express those in the meetings and we can see if there's opportunities for um for for funding those or for finding ways to uh to find solutions for let's say a particular intersection that's [0:18:58, 0:19:01]: having issues or um things like that. [0:19:05, 0:19:25]: And this is more information on our tag means we have on the website. It shows some funding opportunities, how Sam Baker and his group uh work with diff the different studies they do, uh transportation, uh it's a lot going on so in the the website. [0:19:25, 0:19:27]: [1171.4, 1176.3]: Okay. Council, questions you have for Mr. Gonzalez at all? No. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [0:19:37, 0:19:41]: Gonzalez great seeing you again, sir. Likewise, sir. Thank you for your presentation. [0:19:42, 0:19:49]: Um, I vaguely heard you say in the Henry County bus stop created placemaking plan. [0:19:49, 0:20:09]: Uh did I understand you to say something about a stop at the amphitheater tentatively? Yes, counselor. Yes, I'm not sure. Could you elaborate on that a little bit? Uh the there's still a work uh it's still tentative, it's still a draft. Um I'm speaking with Mr. uh Ty Salters with the transit, uh he's the transit director. Uh he [0:20:09, 0:20:29]: They're still tentative and I was asking when you know will it become more is in a few in a few weeks it should be more concrete, but they're still working on the stops and learning um which best placement of those. But I do have he did provide a list on tentative locations. I don't I I don't know if uh they the der uh transit often has been direct in contact [0:20:29, 0:20:37]: w with with with the the council and the mayor, but uh I do have the uh attentive list of of bus stop locations. [0:20:38, 0:20:58]: I know this is preliminary, but do you have are there any discussions as to dates as far as if there's a concerts with with na I'm asking this and you may not know the answer to this, but um are there talks core coordinating the stops or the routes? Uh [0:20:58, 0:21:01]: I [0:21:01, 0:21:21]: I honestly don't do not think it's still attentive. I don't know if they've gotten to that level yet. I know they've considered a lot other factors. Um w one of the things are going to the to the hospital, uh providing stocks, but I do not know it'll it'll be something I can reach out to uh Mr. Salters on that to see if there's anything dealing with how what factors [0:21:21, 0:21:34]: uh determine the stops if if you have consideration that would they be considering, you know, concerts, things like that for high m more high volume um traffic. Because reading I was asking that and I was just wondering if [0:21:35, 0:21:37]: If constrate goers [0:21:38, 0:21:40]: New of the schedule. [0:21:41, 0:21:43]: And the schedule was pretty reliable. [0:21:44, 0:21:50]: And if concert goes, say if they were parking at a particular parking ride. [0:21:50, 0:22:00]: and then just catch this route to come and then to catch it back to wherever they park. I I don't know if it's gonna be coordinated that way. [0:22:01, 0:22:03]: If it is [0:22:03, 0:22:17]: I think that would be great for uh the parking situation and the traffic situation that we have here in the city centered around uh the nights of concerts. And I just want to see could you um [0:22:18, 0:22:31]: Get some more information on the tentative plan and see if it sorta fits into this mode. Uh m mister Salters, he's been great to work with, so I I will I will reach out and see what information he has and I'll afford any [0:22:32, 0:22:52]: Mr. Thomas, what I believe will happen, he'll check into that, but I believe this is only during the course of the of the uh normal five-day uh week and during business hours, I believe. But he'll double check it to make sure. But I believe that's what it is. Yes, sir. I think what the appropriate thing to do is is as he said, it is in a tentative place. [0:22:52, 0:23:12]: Landing stage, correct? Yes. Probably none of that has been worked out. So if that is our desire, Mr. Our Vol he is our volunteer. Right. If the appropriate recourse would be to go to the city manager and say, we would like to see this bus route stop at the amphitheater at on these routes. [0:23:12, 0:23:32]: So we could make some core have some coordination with the city and perhaps the amphitheater or uh certain events that we have in the city. And I would wish every city would do that. McDonald would probably want to coordinate on the geranium fest and that kind of thing. Atlanta Motor Speedway would probably want to do that. But I think if we [0:23:32, 0:23:52]: Want to pursue that angle, we should have Mr. Gardner go to uh Miss Matthews and the whole team, Mr. Salter, and make that recommendation. Sounds like a worthy recommendation, but to execute that, the city manager would probably be the place. We just want to first put too much on you. You you come here, you you uh volunteer the [0:23:52, 0:24:05]: information for us but it's my pleasure. Absolutely we appreciate it. Thanks. And this is this is a time to do it too. If it's tentative, there's be a well I think they would be a much yes. Good deal. Any other questions? Yeah, Miss Barber go ahead please. So [0:24:06, 0:24:16]: Mayor Fort, you just asked this question, or you made the comment about the operations of this bus. Is this only gonna be available Monday through Friday? [0:24:16, 0:24:30]: That part I uh do not know since it's tensitive I I was just trying to get information whether whether what information was available. Um that was the what he provided and there's still i it's still weeks away for any kind of finalization on the on the uh the bus stops. Okay. [0:24:31, 0:24:31]: So [0:24:32, 0:24:35]: We shouldn't expect that this will be a twenty four hour service. [0:24:37, 0:24:46]: I I would I could not tell you on on that part from them. But I I can reach out. I'm sure you will have that information. They're working on it, they've been working on it for a while, so [0:24:46, 0:24:54]: Is it unrealistic to um think that it would run on the weekends, at least on Fridays and Saturdays? [0:24:54, 0:24:55]: Yeah. [0:24:56, 0:25:00]: Up until How are you? Eleven or twelve. [0:25:01, 0:25:13]: Um I don't at this point, I don't think it's going to be a twenty four hour bus service like Motto. Um that's it's Henry Transit, you know, they currently do on call service, but they are going to s expand [0:25:14, 0:25:34]: um how they operate, but I don't think it's gonna be a twenty-four hour service. Um and I will find out from Mr. Salter, because as he s as Mr. Gonzalez said, they're still trying to finalize um which direction they're gonna be going in as it relates to scheduling and routes and all of that. And so once we meet with them, we're gonna [0:25:34, 0:25:54]: determine okay, these are our hard fast stops and then when does it run? And I will share that information as soon as I get it from Mr. Salter with Council so you guys will know. And we'll make sure that if it's going to run in the evening times and in conjunction with our concerts, that would be good to make sure they have those dates. So for the folks who want [0:25:54, 0:25:57]: want to take transit they can do that without having the Uber if it [0:25:57, 0:25:58]: It's moving in their direction. [0:26:00, 0:26:20]: 'Cause I think right now it's mostly some of our main state routes that they're looking at and a few few um Henry County high roads. Yes. And if I'm not mistaken, I don't think McDonough is participating or wanted to participate at this point. It it uh the stop does before. [0:26:20, 0:26:40]: begin in um in McDonough. I think this is the Henry County facilities. I don't think, yeah. McDonough. Excuse me. And um at the time she was kind of taken aback by the whole transit issue and some of the community [0:26:40, 0:26:42]: communicate but um [0:26:42, 0:27:00]: I don't know if they're fully on board but I'll be able to get that information to you guys. But yes, we definitely want to participate. That's been told that we would love to participate and we'll coordinate to make sure that, you know, as best we can that if they're running in those dates and times of our concert to date, that'll be a good thing for our residents to be able to take take advantage of. [0:27:02, 0:27:08]: Uh quite go ahead. Got another question. Let us Mr. Garner, don't leave yet. I I I d look could you come back for a second? [0:27:09, 0:27:09]: Yes. [0:27:13, 0:27:33]: Let us not believe for one second that we can't make recommendations. We just they're not being they're they're asking for feedback on this as well, right sir? Yes. We we're that we don't just have to take what they give us. This is the time to step up and to ask for what we want. You know, our citizens. [0:27:33, 0:27:53]: Citizens pay the pay into this role as Henry County citizens as well. So taking on Councilman Thomas's suggestion, I would ask that we we as the council would suggest that you, Mr. Gardner, go to the go to the transit system operator and the county. [0:27:53, 0:28:13]: And say these are the suggestions, these are our needs. Now whether they act upon them or not, these are the suggestions that we're made that will coordinate with what we're doing. I don't want you to go in there like, yeah, okay, well, tell me what it is and I'm gonna bring it back to the council. I want you to go in there and make some suggestions that will benefit. [0:28:13, 0:28:16]: the citizens. Certainly. Yes, sir. [0:28:18, 0:28:38]: Yes, Mar Marble, go ahead, please. Is there a cost associated with these services? Um, to the city or municipalities? I know it's your five dollar fee to the citizens, but is there your five dollar one just for that one? Microtransit, that's more local units and app for that particular one. This bus service, I d uh [0:28:38, 0:28:58]: The funding, I don't have to check on that. Um I I don't even know if it you be in pain w as you ride the bus. So um I'll have to check on the funding. Okay. As a municipality, is there an expectation from the county for funding from each of the cities who participate in this? [0:28:58, 0:28:58]: Yes. [0:28:59, 0:29:05]: Not that I know of. Okay. Thank you. But I'll I'll de I'll make sure I effort that and get that back to you guys. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. [0:29:08, 0:29:10]: Any other questions from Mr. Gonzalez? [0:29:12, 0:29:21]: Okay, seeing none. Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you. Obviously we gave some re recommendations, some thoughts here and uh city manager take charge and work with you on that in the county. All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [0:29:22, 0:29:24]: Okay, well we have a consent agenda. [0:29:25, 0:29:45]: A request, the first one, request for use in the Merrill Manters Conference Center on Sunday, June 2nd, 2024, from 2 p.m. to 5 p.m. a Father's Day event hosted by Councilwoman Yolanda Barbera. Number two, request for use of the amphithia green room on Wednesday, August 21st, 2024, from 4 p.m. to nine p.m. [0:29:45, 0:30:05]: P.M. for a brokers open event hosted by Citywide Development Authority. And number three would be the request the use of the council chambers and the Levi Meeting Room for the annual Youth Council senior ceremony and banquet. And uh the youth council will select a date when both spaces are available. It says here. So that's the consent agenda. [0:30:05, 0:30:07]: [1808.4, 1828.4]: Um so move from the squadron. I would request that uh the first two items be removed from the consent agenda so I can ask some questions of the city manager about the usage at Merrill Manders as one member of the council. If one item is asked to be removed, it has to be removed. So the first two should be removed. [0:30:29, 0:30:30]: I would [0:30:30, 0:30:49]: Hold on a second here. Okay, so first of all sh she made a motion. I it wasn't a second. I don't think it was a second. Okay, so but if you're re you're requesting that uh items one and two be removed for discussion. For discussion. I would imagine that for to do that, I would imagine there has to be a second in a and No, no, sir. Not on the Roberts Rule. The consent agenda has to be unanimous. [0:30:49, 0:30:56]: Well I'll tell you what, I wanna ask the attorney. I want to verify everything here first on that notion. [0:31:08, 0:31:09]: Yeah. [0:31:10, 0:31:11]: So anyone count. [0:31:16, 0:31:36]: All right. All right. So on that note that uh what you're saying is one and two, you want one and two to come off and we can vote on we for to discuss that further. And then item number three in reference to the the third request read uh request for the use of the council chairman for the Levi meeting room for the annual U Council Senior Ceremony and Banquet. And once again the U Council [0:31:36, 0:31:44]: Council will select a date where both spaces are available. So that's on the consent agenda. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:31:45, 0:31:46]: Yes, ma'am. [0:31:47, 0:31:50]: S uh uh y was yeah, was I'm sorry. [0:31:51, 0:31:56]: I'm sorry, Mayor. Yes, ma'am, go ahead. I move to approve the consent agenda for item number C. [0:31:57, 0:32:00]: All right. All right, there you go. All in favor, please indicate. [0:32:01, 0:32:04]: All right, see Nancy says on that note. Okay now. [0:32:04, 0:32:19]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. We'll go back to request uh for the use of Merrill Manner's Conference Center on Sunday, June second, twenty twenty four, two to five PM Father's Day event hosted by Councilwoman Yolanda Barber. So there's discussion on this particular item. What's the discussion? [0:32:20, 0:32:24]: Since this is um an item I asked to be added to the agenda. [0:32:25, 0:32:25]: Um [0:32:25, 0:32:31]: As you all recalled at the beginning of the year, the council voted on the council initiative. [0:32:31, 0:32:32]: Cowder. [0:32:32, 0:32:36]: One of my initiatives was for the Father's Day event. [0:32:36, 0:32:38]: It was scheduled for Sunday. [0:32:38, 0:32:39]: June ninth. [0:32:41, 0:32:58]: It was never confirmed with the event staff. So that date has already been booked by someone else. So all I'm asking is that we change all I'm asking is to change the date of my event until Sunday, June second. [0:33:00, 0:33:01]: Okay, Mr. Gardner. [0:33:11, 0:33:31]: Let me just say I certainly support your use of of this for the Father's Day event and most in the uses that we've been doing of the council. But I have sent out an email to you and the event staff so that we could get together and we could have something to entertain what the economic impact was of the [0:33:31, 0:33:51]: amount of times that the mayor and council had actually allocated the free usage of the center and the impact that it was having on the center. I sent it to you, sent it to Miss Jordan and Mr Mr. Conywell so that we could understand because truly when we use this and we allow it to be used for free, that's put put [0:33:51, 0:34:11]: putting us in a position where there's no income from that particular date or and there is no um there's no revenue on that particular date. Merrill Manders has been suffering from a great amount of uh in a matter of fact has been hemorrhaging funds because of the amount of usage that has been [0:34:11, 0:34:31]: Done uh for years and it has not been turning a profit. But each year we see each more and more events being solicited by the members of the council and members of the public for free usage of the facility. So uh do you have some type of info do you have any information available to reply to that? [0:34:31, 0:34:51]: And if not, when would you might be able to do that? As we add this event and then we add the Citywide Development Authority meeting as well, because I believe we subsidized the Merrill Mandis Center with in excess of maybe about$600,000. [0:34:51, 0:34:51]: [2093.2, 2113.2]: So um no we have not efforted that but I can tell you that the impacts of you guys using that facility is probably anecdotally minimal, but I'll be able to get the the staff is working on those numbers for me. Um Miss Kim was out on vacation last week, so we'll have those numbers hopefully I'll bit get them out tomorrow. Um as [0:35:13, 0:35:22]: As it relates to the green room, we don't get requests for the leasing of the green room to any extent. Um, so there's no financial impact. [0:35:23, 0:35:43]: per se for the use of the b of that for that room because it's ninety per ninety nine percent of the time outside the concert series it's empty and unused. So and so we don't get a lot of requests for the use of it for paid perspective. Um as it relates to the Moral Mandis, and I know you guys have heard me say this before, um [0:35:43, 0:36:03]: Um every con every conference center pretty much in the state of Georgia operates at a loss. They they are usually subsidized through hotel motel tax. Whether you're talking about the World Congress Center, the GICC or the Savannah, they do not break even. They're subsidized through hotel motel tax or in some cases [0:36:03, 0:36:23]: Rent a car tax. They just, they're not built to be 100% profitable. The benefit to your community of those is they bring people heads and bed faces in places, which is known in the hospitality industry. But that's pretty much it. I think out of the year, I think council as a whole. [0:36:23, 0:36:35]: whole utilize probably no more than six days out of the whole calendar year for events. But I would say I will definitely definitely get that number to you to the whole council so y'all can see. [0:36:35, 0:36:55]: The the reason that I say that is because uh on a day, particularly weekend dates, when we give the facility away for free, then that's a day that's lost profit. And when we allow a group to come to us and say, Let me use the facility, and then they use the facility for free instead of paying for the facility. [0:36:55, 0:37:03]: facility that has an impact on the system? Two. It has two. Um so if you think about it, yes it might have an impact that it didn't get rented. [0:37:03, 0:37:11]: But it also has another op e equal and opposite effect of if I've never been there before and I like what I see, I might come back and rent it. [0:37:12, 0:37:17]: Right. So there's the other side of that coin that it actually also showcased. [0:37:17, 0:37:37]: um the facility to those folks to know that yes, for some folks they didn't know that it was there, that it is there and it is leasable. And so if they're gonna have an event, I might want to go to the Merman des Center rather than go on to Jonesboro somewhere else. So there's an equal opportunity um side of that coin. It when you guys use it and you bring people from the outside to your events into that [0:37:37, 0:37:44]: facility, that's part of you guys showcasing that when you when you do that. So people sometimes we get repeat. [0:37:45, 0:38:05]: You would get repeat folks who come back and rent it because they say, Hey, I I was here for an event. I enjoyed my time and um I'm gonna hold my event at at this location and and that's how we, you know, that's that circle goes full circle for us. That certainly is something that I would certainly agree with that there is, but the trajectory [0:38:04, 0:38:24]: Of where we are is the subsidy increases every single year that we have to put into the facility. So I would like for you to come back with that data so that we know the next time someone asks for a f for usage of the facility with an additional event, what uh impact that it will have on the fact that we're going to be able [0:38:24, 0:38:33]: on the facility so we can get that trajectory turned around to where we aren't increasing the subsidy each year. So thank you. [0:38:34, 0:38:34]: You're welcome. [0:38:35, 0:38:54]: I would tell you that um it it uh w I know you're gonna check into this Mr. Gardner, but I'm tell you recently uh there's been the first readers um uh activity that's been there. Henry County Chairman had the annual awards b uh board there. Piedmont Henry had the fun recent fundraiser there as well, and then Sheriff Scandas had a another activity there and this is all within the last [0:38:54, 0:39:14]: Thirty days, I think it is. Actually, so I was just gotta curious, what's getting you? So but I'm uh he's been tasked. Mr. Garner's gonna get this the results of of information we need and uh we'll go from there. Just wanna mention those wonderful events that w just recently were in Merrill Manor's. All right, so um Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. I moved to [0:39:14, 0:39:27]: Accept and to allow the use of the Merrill Manders for the Father's Day event. Okay. Sir second that money. I second that. Thank you, sir. No problem. All in favor, please indicate. It's an unanimous decision. Okay. Fantastic. [0:39:28, 0:39:29]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:39:31, 0:39:32]: Yeah, so go ahead, please. [0:39:32, 0:39:46]: B, yes. Uh just out of curiosity, um the brokers open event, I noticed there's n no background documentation. I'm just curious what what is that? [0:39:47, 0:40:07]: Mayor, if I may. Go right ahead. Thank you. Um, as a member of the development authority, this is the second annual broker event. What they do is they allow that real estate brokers to come in and discuss land and opportunities for economic development um in the Stockbridge city limits and area and and land [0:40:07, 0:40:11]: land that is available for sale as well. So it's the second one. [0:40:11, 0:40:16]: Thank you. All right. Thanks. Is there a motion to accept this? Yes. So move. [0:40:16, 0:40:25]: I stuck it. Okay. I suck it. No, no problem. So from Alexander to Gand, all favorite please indicate. Now she says, Thank you very much. Okay. [0:40:27, 0:40:28]: We'll move on. [0:40:29, 0:40:38]: Unfinished business. Council consideration to approve the amphitheater parking map for free and paid parking locations and rideshare locations. Mr. Gardner, please. [0:40:47, 0:41:07]: Uh good evening, Mayor Council. Um before you you have a map that illustrates um the parking, both public and um private park um paid parking uh for uh amphitheater goals, concert goals um uh staff wants council to consider approving the [0:41:07, 0:41:08]: uh map. [0:41:11, 0:41:20]: Conversation yeah, can we display the public the map so the public can see it, so they understand what we're talking about, and they understand we have that capability now. [0:41:39, 0:41:39]: Madam City Clerk. [0:42:02, 0:42:02]: I got it. [0:42:19, 0:42:19]: There you go. [0:42:21, 0:42:41]: So the parking that's actually um in conjunction with the amphitheater, which is along East Atlanta Road entrance points, and then the um parking that's directly behind City Hall, between City Hall and the municipal court and community development, those are uh considered uh [0:42:41, 0:43:00]: Um paid parking as part of which uh vendors can purchase as as they go um purchase their tickets. The others are the back parking lots that we currently we completed the lower the northern parking lot this um this winter. So that's parking lot is ready. Um [0:43:01, 0:43:17]: And then we have the parking um just directly behind the amphitheater on Lee Street. That parking is is available and has been available last year. Um we do have work with the uh owners of the uh convenience shopping center. [0:43:17, 0:43:21]: Uh and they allow for us to utilize the parking, so does the school. [0:43:21, 0:43:28]: Um in conjunction with the school principal, we have access to utilize dose parking as well. There's parking on Burke Street. [0:43:28, 0:43:47]: Um and as well as as the property that we own for the tag office uh and the library, um, for folks to be able to park and then off when we aren't aren't having any rainy events, we sometimes allow folks to park um on the three acre site that's directly across the street from from the amphitheater. [0:43:48, 0:43:52]: But that's just lightly highlighted. But those are the public parking, those are the paid parking. [0:43:53, 0:43:58]: What's highlighted in red is paid. What's highlighted in blue is your free parking locations. [0:43:59, 0:44:03]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Mr. Gardner, um [0:44:04, 0:44:20]: I brought this forward last year and the last well maybe two seasons ago, concert seasons ago, and I just noticed in your presentation just then you did not mention uh unless I just didn't hear it, uh the [0:44:20, 0:44:23]: Uber and Lyff Parkin. [0:44:23, 0:44:26]: Uh I I think this is very important. [0:44:26, 0:44:28]: I noticed um [0:44:28, 0:44:30]: Last year I believe it was [0:44:31, 0:44:34]: uh concert goes running across the street. [0:44:34, 0:44:36]: Trying to flag down [0:44:36, 0:44:38]: Uh their Uber driver. [0:44:39, 0:44:44]: So I think that uh the the site need to be clearly designated. [0:44:45, 0:44:55]: uh signage and it just need to be known. Uh so far as drop off and pickup. So it need to be well um [0:44:56, 0:44:57]: uh signage. [0:44:58, 0:45:18]: uh and advertise so folks to just know. Because again, as we talk about free parking, paid parking, I think it is convenient for some to be able to uh Uber in, lift in, and we just need to make it convenient for us a designated place. [0:45:18, 0:45:26]: where uh people can actually go to actually um, you know, for these drivers to actually be parked. [0:45:27, 0:45:45]: And I I just don't see that in this presentation. Yes, sir. I and and and my fault I uh didn't catch it. It was on my other map, but we we went to the sophisticated map. But yes, there um and I remember this, there's there was usually a feather banner that sits right next to community development. [0:45:45, 0:45:48]: If I remember correctly, I know we had it one season that had um [0:45:49, 0:45:50]: Right here. [0:45:50, 0:45:52]: Is that the uh the court? [0:45:52, 0:46:04]: Yeah. Um that's the location I think is designated. It wasn't put on here. We'll amend this before we put it ba put it out. Um once approved, we'll have that there as ride rideshare rideshare parking. So how how how do we [0:46:04, 0:46:21]: signage that how do we get that information out. So we have a website, do we what channels do we just make sure this information is out. Yeah. So once you guys approve this map, this map will go up on the concert on the concert map as well as on the city's website. [0:46:22, 0:46:42]: On that website, so you'll be able to see that and we'll I'll make sure we highlight the area next to the um courthouse, the parking right there by community development. That's where the ride share is located at. I know one concert yeah we actually did have a feather banner, the big feather banners like the one that's sitting out here right now. That was out there that had rideshare on it. I don't know if it was there last season, but I think twenty twenty [0:46:42, 0:46:43]: twenty two it was out there. [0:46:43, 0:47:00]: But we'll do you know how many cars or employees or city cars that are parked there on a permanent basis on the weekend? Um there's roughly one, two, probably three, no more than four city vehicles to the park over there. [0:47:00, 0:47:20]: But for a ride share, it it's about exit and entrance. It's not really about stationary parking. Right. So they allow for them to come in, meet whoever that that person is that's uh requesting the the ride share and then drive off. Well the reason I ask because I don't know how many Uber, how many ride share, how many vehicles actually try to get in there. [0:47:20, 0:47:40]: gets out there. Yeah. Because you have a lot of folks that just they're just five, ten, fifteen minutes away. And we may be inundated with that. And I just think we need to be proactive to make sure that um you know we are accommodating and you know for that. Because and and I and I and I and and yes we I need to address that, make sure that areas [0:47:40, 0:48:00]: address because also it's actually free parking as well. So because I've parked there before during concerts and just walk behind community development and come into the concert. But no but i i i if it's free parking so how would how how are the uber and lift cars gonna so uber and lift they're not a if you you know when you use them they're not stationary. [0:47:59, 0:48:01]: So they come in. [0:48:01, 0:48:02]: You know [0:48:02, 0:48:10]: On the app. It you know, they have my picture. But they will be there at least two, four or five minutes, trying to get that [0:48:10, 0:48:26]: Yeah, you the person will be there, but usually the by the time that, you know, it tells you your ride is it's within one minute, two minutes, mm-hmm. And then you go out there and you meet your ride. So that Uber then you jump in and take off. So for the cars that are uh actual park, [0:48:26, 0:48:38]: They're not infringing on that'cause the cars are just sit and wait. But what we could do is we can designate and it's gonna help somebody to be there p to police it.'Cause I'm gonna say, Mr. Garner, I I foresee [0:48:39, 0:48:59]: Cars trying to get in, trying to get out. Those that are parked there, they're trying to get in. When the concentration is over, they're trying to get out. I just really just see a log jam. I'm okay, you know, with every free parking that we can sort of make available, but I just foresee uh a problem as far as traffic jam right. [0:48:59, 0:49:06]: Right,'cause it's tight right there. And you do have that traffic on North Henry uh, you know, going in both directions. So [0:49:07, 0:49:11]: I I know we can sort of work it out, but I just foresee a problem if we don't. [0:49:12, 0:49:26]: think ahead and and and foresee the logistical problem that may occur and try to work that out. Yeah, we'll we'll work with it. But yeah. So that that was uh we forgot I forgot to put that in there, but yes. That was designated. [0:49:26, 0:49:32]: It's a madhouse. Yeah. Everybody's trying to get out. Everybody trying to get out and go. Yes. And even trying to get in. [0:49:32, 0:49:52]: Yes sir. Just saying. Yes, sir. And and yes, you know, that's going to be um problematic either way, whether it's, you know, we get making that left hand turn motion to go west, go east on on North Henry is always gonna be problematic during the events. Um hopefully the rideshare folks will be able to know that, hey, you can actually [0:49:52, 0:50:12]: goes a certain point and come back and and and come back and last question mayor. Go right since um how how many parking spaces would you say are there, even though city employees are parking their car and I know you say you park there sometimes. So how many spaces would you say are there? And the reason I'm asking is how feasible is it for it to be [0:50:12, 0:50:14]: uh free parking. [0:50:18, 0:50:20]: You're referring to the courthouse? Is that what you're referring to? [0:50:20, 0:50:21]: Yes. Okay. [0:50:26, 0:50:29]: It's about twenty five twenty five to thirty parking spaces. [0:50:30, 0:50:42]: Okay. Twenty five to thirty, I think y'all have around a so twenty? Twenty. Okay, so twenty. I was trying to count it from the map. And that's and that's sort of down in the back. So you have the you have the circle area at the back where you can go and [0:50:44, 0:50:51]: Right. I mean you can t it's it's a cold sack. So you can go down, come around, as long as as long as people don't [0:50:52, 0:50:57]: Take advantage of parking in that circle. One way in and one way out. It is one way in, one way out, sir, yes sir. [0:50:57, 0:50:58]: Okay. [0:50:58, 0:51:04]: Well we'll we'll try to work through it, but I think we just need to designate, you know, that space for Uber and Lyft. [0:51:04, 0:51:13]: Yes, sir. That it was already designated and I I'll highlight that so when we put the map out, we're gonna put it out on the uh Stockbridge Amp and we're gonna put it on the city's website as well. [0:51:13, 0:51:25]: All right, thank you. I yield back, Mary. No problem, sir. Appreciate it. I would say d designate that, yeah, absolutely, but I would venture to say that a lot of folks will probably use a front part of the amphitheater to be picked up and dropped off. I would imagine that's gonna happen. [0:51:26, 0:51:37]: Even though we have a designated spot. I got it. But I'm pretty sure that some folks will say, well, just give it straight to the event. After the event, you're gonna have you're gonna have people egressing out at the end of the events are gonna be making [0:51:37, 0:51:40]: The left hand turn and right hand turn motion. [0:51:40, 0:51:41]: But uh [0:51:42, 0:51:46]: I know that the police and and mister Harold was coordinating the traffic flow. [0:51:47, 0:51:47]: Um [0:51:48, 0:51:50]: But you will have some folks who are gonna try to exit. [0:51:51, 0:52:11]: You know, the paid folks are gonna exit out of the two areas, the one further to the south, the one further to the north that's in conjunction with Love Street. So that gives them an opportunity to make, and I think um I don't know if the Harrow's here, it was. Um, when they do the traffic, they're pretty much guiding everybody to make right-hand turns rather than beleaguer traffic by training. [0:52:11, 0:52:29]: trying to make that left hand turn motion. So you have to go around. Um I know they did that one they did that last year. So they're gonna coordinate that and we'll make sure that we highlight the community development parking lot, court parking lot for for White Chair and try to restrict a couple of lots in there for folks to be able to come in. Come on. [0:52:30, 0:52:33]: Any other questions about pre parking or thereabout? [0:52:35, 0:52:36]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [0:52:37, 0:52:47]: Yes. Mr. Gardner, that area directly across from City Hall. Can you zoom into that area? I see that you have the blue box. [0:52:47, 0:52:49]: But it does not cover [0:52:49, 0:52:50]: Oh. [0:52:50, 0:52:55]: Or the area. Um cities portion. [0:52:56, 0:53:00]: Yeah, so we can hide I we can change that and highlight all of it. Um [0:53:01, 0:53:21]: And like I said, it's it's not o every time that we use it, if we know that there's gonna be a rain event, we don't we don't allow parking over there because we don't want them to tear up the grass. Um so we just restrict it. Um but for the where we have when we have those clear weather events, um we tend to allow for parking and make sure [0:53:21, 0:53:23]: Folks parking to get egress and egress out of there. [0:53:24, 0:53:31]: I didn't know that any of the events they were restricted from parking there last year. [0:53:31, 0:53:40]: They weren't. No, I don't I can't remember if we had any rain events, but I know when we did had forecast for rain, we didn't allow folks to park there in the rain. [0:53:41, 0:54:01]: Okay. Um I remember but for the most part, when it doesn't rain, we do. Now remember we we started a couple of concerts out real good and then had to rain hit us after the fact. Um but for where we got good predictions on those we tend to just go ahead because it's at that point some of it is hard gravel, some of it is grass, especially directly across from us, it's mostly grass going over. [0:54:01, 0:54:16]: Um so as long as folks can get in and out um without tearing up the grass, we we we look into that before we do it. So it's just an additional parking for folks to be closer to the amphitheater to get across. [0:54:17, 0:54:37]: Uh, what in reference to that area you're referring to, because of the quiet zone designation, especially on Love Street, if you're gonna park back there it's gotta be some specific signs of how to get back there because it's a little change now. Yes. In reference to that'cause we got some it's gonna be a little it's not it's not gonna be easy, totally easy to get back there. So for those folks, um [0:54:37, 0:54:41]: Um obviously to get in, uh it's one way. [0:54:42, 0:55:02]: L going north to south. Mm-hmm. So it's one way. So to get back they'll egress back and come up back behind the school and over here on um on the corner at the light. And then be able to disperse left or right at that point. Or go straight ahead. It's gonna have to be designated pretty pretty easy for people to understand how to do that. Because the sign the signs are up, they're designated as [0:55:02, 0:55:04]: One way this direction [0:55:06, 0:55:18]: I will tell you, just leave it to people, right? I literally saw a guy wait until traffic passed the other day and I purposely slowed down to watch'cause I know what his intent was. He was at Ward [0:55:18, 0:55:23]: Rather than turning right as required, he came up the came up the wrong way. [0:55:23, 0:55:28]: sit that sat there and waited for traffic to go by and then drove in the left hand lane [0:55:29, 0:55:46]: to go right at the train tracks where the train the the the dividers are. Went across at that point to go lu go east on on Love Street. That's why it's gotta be designated at least. He's gonna get hit. [0:55:47, 0:55:55]: 'Cause at that point there's nowhere for him to go if he gets stuck on that track. But he chose to make that and all I did was just look at him and say, You know what, and shook my head, you know. [0:55:56, 0:56:01]: Okay. Yeah, Ms. Alzheimer, go ahead, please. Yeah, pull back out to the uh entire map again. [0:56:07, 0:56:27]: Okay. Let us emphasize the two new parking positions that are available on Love Street that were not there before. That certainly would be the preferred area. It's a paved area. You don't have to worry about rain. And those parking lots are designated as free. [0:56:27, 0:56:45]: So anybody who would have come through that uh Lee Street, North Lee Street area, um would think that that should be understanding that we have two new parking lots there, total of ninety-one spaces, I believe, that are now available that were not available. [0:56:48, 0:57:08]: You're talking on the back side of the amphitheater. Right, on the back side of the amphitheater. That's right there. So point to there where North Henry Boulevard is, and that's North Lee Street. Correct? Right. Correct. Yes, sir. Right. So the public, we are, we hear you, and we have may added some additional paved, approved parking areas. [0:57:08, 0:57:28]: On North Lee Street. Certainly you're available to park uh across the street from City Hall, but it's about the same distance to park there in an area where it did start to rain, you wouldn't be in a situation where your car was getting in the mud or in a situation where um [0:57:28, 0:57:48]: The city grass would be dis would be torn up. And folks need to understand if you're out there now and you see this box uh across the street from City Hall, there is no way to cover off of East Atlanta Road. You can't drive over the new curbing that we have on the street. You cannot drive across East Atlanta. [0:57:48, 0:58:07]: Able to come on East Atlanta and then drive right over there to that parking area. You can no longer do that because there is a high curve there and there are some plantings there. So certainly want to make sure everybody understands you cannot access that area across from City Hall uh via East Atlanta Road, correct? [0:58:07, 0:58:08]: Correct. [0:58:09, 0:58:12]: Thank you. Ms. Barber, why you have a motion? Okay. [0:58:13, 0:58:21]: What I'm I'm I'm sorry, you had another question, sir. One last question. Yeah, go ahead, sir. Uh Councilwoman. Uh Mr Gardner. Yes, sir. The [0:58:23, 0:58:43]: Property, the railroad's property uh on ML King Heritage Trail, um, where the where the railroad, what you call that, the uh yardman, yep, right. Right, the storage yard. Um at one point there was a discussion that the city may be able to use [0:58:43, 0:58:44]: Use that. [0:58:44, 0:58:49]: Uh I don't see the railroad using that, it just junk there. So [0:58:50, 0:59:04]: Is that part of any discussion to be able to get that cleared out so the city could use that as free parking? Yes, sir. Cause I think somebody tried to charge one year. [0:59:04, 0:59:14]: Yes, sir. You know, when we first started, I think when I got here, um people were able to park, but then the railroad um put the the um chains up to restrict it. [0:59:14, 0:59:34]: Um and I know why. I mean obviously they don't want if a train derailed it is tearing up that area. Um especially with no permission to do so. But yes, we uh finally was able to land a contact person who I've already reached out to um to discuss ultimately leasing that property out to the city. Um that [0:59:34, 0:59:54]: That and the the property at the end of um at the intersection of First Street and MLK. There's a portion there by by Carby's barbecue. Yeah. Um to lease the city out and allow for us to actually do the improvements, kind of what you see in um Locust Grove. Uh and so we've reached out [0:59:54, 1:00:04]: I've reached out to that person. I actually went over there and spoke to the guys and said, Hey, I need a point of contact to talk about this piece of property. Uh and so they gave me that contact. I left him a message yesterday. [1:00:04, 1:00:24]: Uh we had been searching and scouring the web for somebody in their real estate department and we just kept getting the runaround. But now I actually have a name and a person and a contact um to be able to make uh see we could get a decision made on doing that. We put together a rendering because we were told by Locust Grove, you know, show them where, show them what you're trying to do. [1:00:24, 1:00:44]: Um and they'll pretty much answer you. So we're everyone that Locus Grove gave us as a point of contact, apparently either no longer works for the railroad, uh have moved on to a different division. And so we had to start from scratch. But yes, we've reached out um and we're aggressively trying to get use of that property because it serves two purpose. As we [1:00:44, 1:00:53]: we as we get more businesses downtown, it'll be additional parking for folks for those businesses downtown as well as when we have concerts. Um so that's we're working on that, sir. [1:00:54, 1:00:55]: No problem. [1:00:57, 1:01:05]: Councilwoman Barber Guay, please. Okay. I move to approve the amphitheater parking map for free and paid parking locations. [1:01:06, 1:01:09]: As presented, but with the following revisions. [1:01:10, 1:01:18]: One at the area uh outside of the municipal court for rideshare. [1:01:21, 1:01:26]: And we need the free parking signs there. [1:01:26, 1:01:32]: Two, expand the area, the blue area of the map. [1:01:32, 1:01:38]: that covers the city's property lines directly across the street from City Hall. [1:01:38, 1:01:42]: Yes, sir. And also add the free parking sign. Yep. [1:01:43, 1:01:44]: Three. [1:01:45, 1:01:50]: add signage entitled free parking for all of the designated areas. [1:01:52, 1:01:54]: as you have for free parking. Yes or no. [1:01:57, 1:01:58]: That's it. [1:01:59, 1:02:00]: Is there a second emotion? [1:02:02, 1:02:06]: Okay. The second one, Mr. Thomas Offair, please in the case. [1:02:07, 1:02:09]: Unanimous decision. Thank you very much. [1:02:11, 1:02:16]: New business. Number five, we stayed the thirteenth of uh [1:02:18, 1:02:21]: Actually in May. We'll deal with that in May. [1:02:21, 1:02:41]: Council Consideration number six. Council consideration to approve invitation to bid ITB 2024-002. Walterway Pine View Memorial Park Lyft Station Rehabilitations to SOL Construction LLC Funding Source PLOS$51 Sewer Fund Balance [1:02:41, 1:02:46]: one million four hundred and four thousand eighty six dollars and eighty seven cents. [1:02:47, 1:02:49]: Sewer impact f uh fee. [1:02:49, 1:02:52]: Three hundred thousand dollars for an total amount of two thousand [1:02:53, 1:02:58]: Seven hundred and four dollars and eighty six uh dollars and eighty seven cents. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:02:58, 1:03:18]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Uh we come before you tonight to ask for your approval to award this bid for upgrades to our wastewater treatment collection system. Currently with the number of projects the city has approved, it's gonna require us to do some improvements on our side. These projects will generate five point five million dollars in impact fees. [1:03:19, 1:03:37]: for the city's uh sewer depart sewer and water department and we want to just con ensure that we remain compliant with our permit limitations and make the necessary improvements to these facilities that have exceeded their serviceable life and so we're asking that you approve this tonight. [1:03:38, 1:03:39]: Questions, Council? [1:03:41, 1:03:47]: Mayor. I move that we approve the um improvements for the wastewater imp plant. [1:03:48, 1:03:50]: To a second of the motion. [1:03:51, 1:03:53]: Second. Okay, Mr. Alison, a second. All favor, please indicate. [1:03:55, 1:03:58]: Opposed. Which one are you, Ms. Barber? I'm sorry. You approve? [1:04:00, 1:04:04]: Okay, this is an amb decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. [1:04:06, 1:04:26]: Council consideration approved the purchase of JCB backhole under source well contract number 02023 JCB with uh West Pro JCB an amount of$130,748.83. Funding sources from the Public Works Department budgeted funds. [1:04:26, 1:04:32]: Yes, sir. Oh well, Mr. Barnes is gonna give this uh this presentation. Thank you, sir. It's yours. [1:04:34, 1:04:54]: Good evening, Mayor Council. Uh Public Works is requesting that uh you approve the funding for the JCB backhoe. Uh we do have a backhoe currently, but it's 20 years old. Um it's not sufficient for what we have in mind. Um, of course, digging. [1:04:54, 1:05:01]: Pushing things off the road. So we're just requesting that you all um take consideration and fund this for us. [1:05:03, 1:05:06]: Okay. Questions, Council. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [1:05:06, 1:05:26]: Um, so you're saying that it's already budgeted for it in twenty in this year's budget, correct? We've already budgeted for it. Yes. Okay, well, Mayor, I move that we approve the um JCB backhoe under source well contract number zero two zero two two three, JCB with West Pro JCB, in the amount of one hundred and thirty thousand seven hundred. [1:05:26, 1:05:28]: Hundred and forty eight dollars and eighty three cents. [1:05:29, 1:05:29]: Okay. [1:05:30, 1:05:34]: Is there a second second for that motion? Sir. Okay, sir. [1:05:35, 1:05:41]: You have okay, what's your okay, motion was made in second from once again to Gantt to Alexander. Ms. Barber, what's your question? [1:05:41, 1:05:42]: Mr. Aaron or [1:05:43, 1:05:44]: I'm sorry, sir. [1:05:44, 1:05:47]: So last year I'm seeing that [1:05:47, 1:05:48]: Um [1:05:48, 1:06:01]: For this line item it was budgeted fifty thousand. I don't see an actual so I don't know if you all actually purchased one last year or not. Are you looking at the confirm that? Are you looking at the backhoe you said for fifty thousand? [1:06:03, 1:06:05]: I'm looking at the budget worksheet. [1:06:05, 1:06:06]: The budget worksheet. [1:06:09, 1:06:19]: I think we have budgeted two hundred thousand dollars. We have not spent anything on uh what was allocated in the budget, so this is the first expenditure we requested. [1:06:20, 1:06:22]: So in the twenty twenty three budget. [1:06:23, 1:06:26]: This is for the from the twenty twenty four budget. [1:06:26, 1:06:31]: I know. My question is from the twenty twenty three budget. [1:06:32, 1:06:45]: I don't know if you purchased one last year or not. Did you No we didn't. We didn't have it funded in but last year's budget. The actual for twenty twenty three is not reflective here. So that's why I asked. Yes. Thank you, sir. [1:06:49, 1:06:49]: Okay. [1:06:50, 1:06:51]: Any other questions? [1:06:52, 1:06:54]: All favorite motion, please indicate. [1:06:55, 1:06:57]: So a gignamous decision. Thank you very much. [1:07:01, 1:07:02]: One second here. [1:07:05, 1:07:25]: Council Consideration approved the purchase of a Kubota utility cab tractor under source well contract number 031121 KBA with a Mason Tractor and Equipment Company Incorporated. The amount is$55,000, 885 and 26 cents. Funding sources from the Public Works Department. [1:07:25, 1:07:30]: budget of funds. Once again, Mr. Al Barnes, sir, please. [1:07:31, 1:07:51]: Okay, um yes, Public Works is asking that the council approve the purchase of this Kubota utility cab tractor. And what this is actually is a bush haul that will be used to um cut alongside the roads, fields, everything, pretty much the the handle, some of the annexed area that we all include. [1:07:51, 1:08:01]: incorporated. Um also too with using this, this uh help not put a strain on our zero turn lawnmowers that we currently use on some of our ride-of-ways. [1:08:02, 1:08:02]: Yes. [1:08:02, 1:08:19]: Questions will that help in the areas that have that the deep, um I guess runoff or ditch on the sides of the roads, like specifically those areas going up lip and road that have the deep drop off and I know like some of the equipment can't get over into the area. With this equipment [1:08:19, 1:08:39]: No, uh pretty much like this equipment right here where we use mainly you would see like rock quarry, how wide that how wide that area is. And then also too when you come across MLK trail, that big field that's alongside that bridge, that area like that. Um if we put a zero turn out there, you take in maybe [1:08:39, 1:08:54]: two, three hours to cut that versus having a tractor to do that. Um that ditch area that you're referring to that we will mainly use weed eaters for that. So we'll have guys get, you know, saying weed eating down them ditches and stuff like that. And then also to [1:08:55, 1:09:08]: In the near future, a boom or will actually help with that. And that'd be coming hopefully next year. We'll be back up here for that. Yeah, quick. Yeah. Oh, we need that too. So but right now just this'll help as far as the cutting. [1:09:10, 1:09:30]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. And this is coming again, once again, in the budget that it's actually budgeted for for this year? Correct. All right. Mayor, I would like to make a motion to approve the Kubota utility cab tractor under Source Well Contract 031121-KBA with Mason Tractor and Equipment Company. [1:09:30, 1:09:34]: for the amount of fifty five thousand eight hundred and eighty five dollars and twenty six cents. [1:09:34, 1:09:54]: There's a second motion. Second, I'd just like to have a comment as well. Stand by. Yeah, I certainly appreciate this piece of equipment as you said to be able to uh help us impact those uh right of ways. Uh the areas like we um supplement the contractors [1:09:54, 1:10:14]: uh out there uh as well. A lot of times that debris and growth starts to grow over. This will be able to help to kind of push that back like along campground and some other areas like that. The country to doing a good job, but a lot but a lot of times the overgrowth will start to come in and kind of push back that line. So this will help us to be able to [1:10:14, 1:10:20]: It it will in a sense, but also to [1:10:20, 1:10:40]: That's another piece of equipment, but this will help. This will help for the most part. I mean on the grassy area. On the grassy area, yeah. But then also too, what you're talking about them bushes, hopefully uh we'll have that in the budget for next year. But that's a little bit more expensive equipment. But I'm glad you do have that in your mind. So when we do present that, that's gonna be something as well. [1:10:40, 1:10:41]: [4241.5, 4250.0]: Cut some of them trees back and everything and push that line back as well. Yeah, as mista and and I and I see this all the time when I go to the barber shop. [1:10:50, 1:11:10]: The area in front of Mandley. We only cut maybe like 10 feet in front of that. Certainly would this would help us to be able to cut that area along Walt Stevens right by the barbershop area. Yeah. So that we're not just cutting that 10 feet. We're cutting all the way to the fence of uh of Mandalay, which it tighten that up a lot. [1:11:10, 1:11:10]: Yeah. [1:11:10, 1:11:18]: Any other questions, concerns, discussion? I do. Yes, go ahead please. So I need to ask this again. So is this something that was budgeted last year that you all [1:11:19, 1:11:24]: Did not purchase last year but you Correct. Yes, this would be the same as the the backhoe. [1:11:24, 1:11:27]: Thank you. Um [1:11:28, 1:11:34]: That was it. Okay, motion was made in the second law in favor motion, please indicate unanimous decision. Thank you very much. [1:11:34, 1:11:35]: All right, thank you, Mayor Council. [1:11:36, 1:11:36]: You woke up. [1:11:39, 1:11:59]: Council consideration to piggyback on contract with Gales Incorporated as outlined in Henry County Resolution 23-268 and bid number 24.01 up to the maximum amount of uh one hundred thousand dollars for uniforms and equipment presented by uh major, right? Major Richard Goffrey P. [1:11:59, 1:12:02]: Please, Starbury's police department. [1:12:02, 1:12:08]: Mayor Council, good evening. The item I have you before you is a request for council to approve the [1:12:08, 1:12:28]: Minimum purchasing threshold for our existing piggyback contract with Galls Incorporated. This contract currently exists with Henry County Board of Commissioners, Resolution 23-268 and bid number 24-01. We're asking the threshold be raised from$50,000 to$100,000. [1:12:28, 1:12:29]: [4350.6, 4352.9]: Okay. Questions for Major Goffrey? [1:12:33, 1:12:53]: So kinda if you would just kind of explain to us the what this does for you, because obviously you're saying that the threshold is not high enough in what you're ordering. Yes, sir. Currently, uh as you well know, uh as of January of last year, we added code enforcement to the PD. We purchased our first canine uh last year. [1:12:53, 1:13:13]: Specialized equipment for the canine officer. We added additional positions that includes four additional public safety officers, which we're in the process of hiring. We're also trying to bring on a second police canine officer. So all of that specialized equipment increase the cost is currently within our budget, but we're trying to [1:13:13, 1:13:26]: increase the purchasing threshold to make sure that we're not having to come back before council to make those purchases. Right. So the public understands we went from X number of officers to this to what 82 now or something, I think I saw. [1:13:26, 1:13:32]: So previously we in this last couple of years we've had a significant amount of new officers to the community. [1:13:32, 1:13:42]: Correct. Uh public safety or uh uh sworn officers as well as public safety officers, as well as bringing code enforcement up underneath the PD. All right, thank you. [1:13:43, 1:13:46]: Any other questions from Mr. Godfrey? Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [1:13:47, 1:13:55]: Uh Major, how you doing, sir? Good sir. How are you? Um I'm a little confused. Um I thought I read this pretty thorough. Um [1:13:56, 1:13:58]: And what I came away with was [1:13:59, 1:14:01]: Uniforms. Yes, sir. [1:14:02, 1:14:05]: And the problem that I'm having is [1:14:06, 1:14:15]: There's been some communication. I don't wanna say too much about this process, but there's been some communication. Um [1:14:16, 1:14:21]: With our interim treasurer as far as um [1:14:21, 1:14:24]: Updates, reports, uh [1:14:24, 1:14:31]: center around financing. And I see that this is request is coming from the general funds. Is that correct? [1:14:31, 1:14:35]: No, so this is just simply raising the threshold. This is not requesting any additional funding. [1:14:37, 1:14:44]: Okay, and I and I guess I must have misread that, but that's how I read it when it indicated the source. [1:14:45, 1:15:00]: It stated general funds on the document. Yes, so that was the first draft. We were looking at requesting uh an a budget amendment, but that was amended to just simply raising the purchasing threshold from fifty to one hundred thousand dollars. So there is no additional funding being requested at this time. [1:15:02, 1:15:12]: So let me get a better understanding. So are the funds already uh within your budget line item? Yes, sir, they are. [1:15:15, 1:15:33]: Okay, so you're asking for a budget amendment. I'm just wondering why the need to come before the council. So we're not asking for a budget amendment. We're asking for the purchasing threshold, which under the procurement code is set at fifty thousand dollars. So we're asking for that uh threshold to be raised from fifty to one hundred thousand dollars. [1:15:34, 1:15:35]: Uh [1:15:37, 1:15:44]: I'm I'm I wanna go back'cause I again I I dent I misread something and I I just wanna go back'cause [1:15:45, 1:15:46]: What I saw was [1:15:46, 1:15:54]: uh budget amendment. Yes, so that was probably the first draft in there that should have been removed and replaced with the second amendment. [1:15:55, 1:15:56]: And seeing what [1:15:57, 1:16:03]: What we have to go on is is what's there. Yes, sir. So if you said it should have been removed then [1:16:04, 1:16:08]: Why wasn't it removed, you know, so I don't um [1:16:09, 1:16:11]: But these are the issues that I'm sort of having. [1:16:12, 1:16:13]: Uh you know. [1:16:14, 1:16:25]: I'm reading where it's it's saying budget amendment, general funds, and those are the terminology, those are the issues that I'm sort of having. And [1:16:25, 1:16:29]: My thought was after I read and studied this was to wait [1:16:29, 1:16:33]: Until we get the report. We're waiting on a report now. [1:16:34, 1:16:37]: Um and I wanted to see the report. [1:16:37, 1:16:40]: Before I prove this [1:16:40, 1:16:42]: Uh especially now. [1:16:42, 1:16:45]: uh outside of the the budget cycle. [1:16:45, 1:16:55]: And so that's sort of this is my taking of so I'm just a little confused why uh information is still in the packet if it should not have been there because [1:16:55, 1:17:13]: This is what I go on. It's what's there and what I read and try to get that understanding. Again, uh I apologize for that. That should have been removed. Uh the current agenda item is only to uh adjust the purchasing threshold from fifty to one hundred thousand dollars. There is no uh additional funds being requested at this time. [1:17:15, 1:17:20]: And I I I guess excuse me for my ignorance, but I'm still trying to get an understanding. [1:17:21, 1:17:24]: The threshold and why [1:17:24, 1:17:30]: The council has to approve this and I don't know, maybe somebody on the council can help me with that. [1:17:31, 1:17:51]: But I'm gonna year, Mayor,'cause I'm I need to go back and read more, but I don't know what's what's relevant in the information that we receive and what's not. But may I'm gonna year at this point, but I do reserve my time to come back and ask some questions. Any questions, any other questions there? Yeah. Well Mr. Gardner, if you've come up [1:17:51, 1:17:53]: Oh or you can answer. [1:18:00, 1:18:20]: Obviously you've been experiencing with this a time or two. Is this what's customary uh and necessary for the to uh be effective in this area and prudent? Yes. So the existing contract is has a fifty thousand dollar limit, which uh under that amount I can sell. [1:18:20, 1:18:20]: Yeah. [1:18:21, 1:18:25]: for any expenditures, but as he said, I think the original contract was for fifty. [1:18:25, 1:18:40]: They're raising it because Henry County's which we're piggybacking off of is a hundred. The additional officers obviously would require that we have to buy more uniforms. And you also have to understand when we let go or an officer leaves, [1:18:41, 1:19:01]: I'm a size large, but the person that replaces me, I can't use their uniform. I have to buy new sets of uniform for the small guy and the medium-sized guy. So that's a new charge for us. So we don't keep our offices like most police departments. We have some that leave, some we terminate. But remember that you also approve for us to get some additional officers. [1:19:01, 1:19:21]: As public safety officers, and we have replacements. And when they come and go, we have to furnish them with new uniforms. So it's not a budget adjustment. I think uh man and I asked the chief, and apparently that was supposed to be removed and it's it wasn't it was still incorporated. But that's what we're asking for. So and if we have [1:19:21, 1:19:41]: To make any changes. If it if it's we have to move something from one budget to another, that's an adjustment that's done administratively. Um if we have to move money from somewhere else, then yes, we would come back to you. But as uh Mr. Godfrey said, at this time they have no, they don't s foresee that. But however, if it does, they at least know we have the authority to go to [1:19:41, 1:19:46]: to the hundred thousand because that's where Henry County is, even though we see they have more offices than we do. [1:19:46, 1:19:50]: But we just want to make sure that that threshold is there and provided to us. [1:19:52, 1:19:53]: Any other questions? [1:19:55, 1:19:59]: So just mayor if I may please. Just to make sure I'm clear. [1:19:59, 1:20:03]: Because the agenda item, as Councilman Thomas mentioned, [1:20:03, 1:20:10]: Does it's marked budget amendment. So this is not a budget amendment. That's correct. It is uh the money is already in the budget for it, number one. [1:20:11, 1:20:16]: And then it says the funding source is the general fund, but we have it again, it's our it's not an amendment. [1:20:17, 1:20:33]: We are only changing the threshold of expenditures. That is correct and who is authorized to spend up to a hundred is this for any type of uniform and equipment or or what? Are we saying, yeah, we're gonna allow the police department [1:20:34, 1:20:43]: to spend up to a hundred thousand on equipment and uniforms and then have another threshold for something else. I I just want clarification on that. [1:20:43, 1:20:52]: No, it's i it it's my understanding is i there obviously ru there's the uniform replacement and I assume that uniform includes [1:20:52, 1:21:11]: For the canine, have you ever seen the canine? They actually have vests that they wear? Yeah, these are for all public safety uniforms, including all of the gear that they wear. Uh this could include, if you chose to do so, even Chief Wells, because it's a public safety uniform. So any public safety uniform purchased through galls, this is what this would be for. [1:21:12, 1:21:12]: Okay. [1:21:13, 1:21:22]: But if you were and it as so long as it's budgeted for, right? Because if you were to amend or you need an additional or you needed a full threshold from there to the spending threshold. [1:21:24, 1:21:44]: Okay, Mr. Barrett, you had a comment, sir? Yeah, I was just just trying to make sure that everybody had a good understanding of everything. And so essentially the budget is still the budget line item. So the total amount for uniforms for the annual fiscal year is the same. Yes, sir. All we're asking for or you're asking for in this is the ability to purchase a larger amount each day. [1:21:44, 1:22:04]: This each time you go to purchase. So hypothetically, say the budget is 500,000. You can instead of spending ten, fifty thousand ten times, you can spend a hundred thousand five times. Is that the same? The original contract with the county was set at fifty thousand. This past year it was raised to three hundred and ninety-five thousand. Obviously, we're not asking for that. [1:22:04, 1:22:18]: that uh because Henry County is a much larger agency. So but again, just for clarity purposes, all we're simply asking for is to raise that purchasing threshold. Um has nothing to do with the budget. We are okay with the budget as we stand right now. [1:22:19, 1:22:28]: I think the first item you had in there was should have been removed, wasn't removed and included is this. If you turn to the second page it actually has the actual one that we have a question you guys to record. [1:22:28, 1:22:45]: So basically, real quick real quick, the expenditures like any time we have something, there's always an um a maximum amount that the departments can spend without getting approval from Mayor and Council. They're just trying to [1:22:45, 1:22:46]: Increase that [1:22:47, 1:23:00]: amount so they don't have to come back for approval to mayor and council all the time for equipment and um uniforms. Correct. And as long as it's in the budget and they can um [1:23:05, 1:23:09]: And if it's needed, this is not coming from the general fund. [1:23:10, 1:23:25]: Budget. Again, we're not asking for any additional funds. This is simply to raise the procurement code, that threshold from fifty to one hundred thousand. Okay. I understand. I just know we keep referring back to this agenda item form and it's incorrect. Correct. Thank you, sir. [1:23:26, 1:23:32]: Yes, uh what I'd like to happen is just for the record, I want the record to be clear. [1:23:33, 1:23:36]: And and for the city clerk to record [1:23:36, 1:23:38]: The actual even though [1:23:38, 1:23:58]: Documents here say something else because it's even talking about uh an unforeseen change in the need. So I'm just saying there's a lot of information here, and one thing I do, I I read the information that's presented, and this is what I base my decision on. But I just want to make sure. [1:23:58, 1:24:15]: that what goes into the record that it is very clear and not what we have here that no funds are coming from the general fund. So um if someone could make a statement and the city clerk could record that I just want to make sure [1:24:16, 1:24:23]: That it is what it is. Yes, sir. We will ensure that the city clerk has the appropriate document in the morning to make sure that the record is correct. [1:24:24, 1:24:26]: So can we could someone read [1:24:26, 1:24:32]: into the record right now so we can make sure this recorded. So Madame Clerk, do you understand? [1:24:40, 1:24:58]: That has the$50,000, which probably is page three in your the third page in your book, that has the$50,000 to a$100,000 threshold change, what still marks by their staff budget amendment. That is what confusion is. But he is saying it's not a budget amendment. [1:25:02, 1:25:03]: Okay. [1:25:06, 1:25:08]: And the general fund would not take a [1:25:09, 1:25:09]: Okay. [1:25:12, 1:25:12]: That is correct. [1:25:14, 1:25:23]: So one one second please. So otherwise what what she just said, he said that's correct. Is that good enough for you, sir? Well i it is it is good, but what I'd like to just say here now though [1:25:24, 1:25:26]: For future references. Okay. [1:25:26, 1:25:27]: Staff. [1:25:28, 1:25:43]: needs to have an understanding that as council and we have to make decisions. Right, right. We only can make those decisions and when we study this document, when we come here at six o'clock, we're prepared to make a decision based on what's before us. [1:25:43, 1:25:52]: And then we get hit with something else, it's really confusing, and we don't know which is which. So I'm just saying to staff. [1:25:52, 1:25:53]: Please. [1:25:54, 1:25:56]: Do your homework and [1:25:56, 1:25:58]: before it come to the council because [1:25:59, 1:26:07]: We make our decision based on what we have and what we have to study in order to prepare for the meeting. [1:26:09, 1:26:13]: And so it's just just real simple, uh, staff. [1:26:13, 1:26:33]: present to us what it actually is so we could make an informed and intelligent decision. Thank you. Mr. Alexander, go ahead. I just wanted to I mean uh are we ready to go now or make a motion. Well I'll just see I'll just you yeah if if you want to certainly I wanted to go ahead and make a motion to lift the limit as described by May [1:26:33, 1:26:53]: Major Goffrey with the ex with the express statement that there will be no additional funds needed from the general fund and that this um is not a budget amendment. We're only changing the uh authorization amount for the police department for uniform. [1:26:53, 1:26:56]: forms up to a hundred thousand dollars. [1:26:57, 1:27:03]: Miss Barber second that all in favor, please indicate unanimous decision. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Major McCaffrey. Okay. [1:27:08, 1:27:18]: Okay, council of consideration approved ordinance to de-annex uh from the corpor corporate limits of the city of Stockbridge the following parcels located in Manderley subdivision. [1:27:18, 1:27:38]: Zero one three A zero one one two eight zero zero five. Zero one three A zero one one three two zero zero zero zero one three A zero one zero six one zero zero zero zero three excuse me zero one three A zero one zero six zero zero zero zero [1:27:38, 1:27:58]: zero zero zero one three A zero one zero five nine zero zero zero zero one three A zero one zero five eight zero zero zero zero one three eight S one three A zero one zero five seven zero zero zero [1:27:58, 1:28:10]: And zero one three A one one two seven zero zero zero and zero one three A zero one one three eight zero zero. Mr Gardner, please. [1:28:10, 1:28:30]: Yes, sir. Uh good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Once again, we have a de-annexation request uh for residents located in the Mandalori Subdivision, uh which is located off of Walt Walt Steve Walt Stevens Drive, Walt Stevens Road. Um the request is in compliance with the state law. [1:28:30, 1:28:45]: Um which requested there has to be at least one area of fifty feet wide that is contiguous with the unincorporated Henry County for the deannexation of that property and any adjacent properties. [1:28:45, 1:28:46]: And these ten properties [1:28:47, 1:28:49]: Meet those requirements under the state law. [1:28:49, 1:28:56]: the new state law, and by virtue of that we are required to vote yes. [1:28:57, 1:29:00]: Okay, any questions for Mr. Gardner? Counsel? [1:29:01, 1:29:06]: I I just wanna understand the requ that we are required to vote yes. What do we vote no? [1:29:08, 1:29:28]: You'll get sued probably. Certainly. So explain to us exactly because the voters voted to in that area to come in and to be absorbed into the city in a majority. So explain to us this law that uh came into fruition that allowed this what [1:29:28, 1:29:45]: What so there's always been a there's always been the opportunity for residents to annex and to de-annex from cities. The the legislature made a change that made it almost mandatory that if you wanted to de-annex you can. [1:29:45, 1:29:57]: Um there are some exceptions, but the thresholds for those exceptions we don't are not there. Um and just like in an annexation request, if I request to be annexed into the city. [1:29:58, 1:30:04]: The county can object on some of on some criteria, but if those criteria are not there. [1:30:05, 1:30:09]: They cannot stop me as a residence from being able to annex into the city. [1:30:09, 1:30:19]: What the legislature did was change that polarity and gave the county the the same right of anybody wanted to de-annex the city, pretty much your hands are tied. [1:30:19, 1:30:21]: You literally have to let them go. [1:30:21, 1:30:23]: Um and yes the voters voted. [1:30:24, 1:30:31]: However, remember that that wasn't a one hundred percent unanimous vote. So there were some people that voted not to be annexed to be annexed into the city. [1:30:32, 1:30:37]: Um and we don't know how the folks in Mandalori vote and we probably won't ever be able to establish that, but [1:30:37, 1:30:51]: These ten residents meet the requirements under the law and are requesting to D annex. Maybe how many how many residents are in the subdivision? Do you know how many homes um I think it's seventy four, I believe. [1:30:51, 1:30:59]: Yeah. So ten residents out of the seventy four. So they don't have an official HOA in the neighborhood? They do. They do. It's part of [1:31:00, 1:31:06]: But but let me say this. So how does ten people vote out of a in out of a out of a whole subdivision? [1:31:06, 1:31:13]: The law allows as as a property owner, you have a you have a rights in property and and that trumps [1:31:14, 1:31:20]: Any requirements. There's certain things the law can't infringe on in terms of your right as a property owner. [1:31:20, 1:31:33]: Um when it goes when we go too far, the courts tend to push back and tell us that that's outside our bounds, right? So I can't tell somebody that they could they only could build a four story house. Can't do that. Um in this case I will tell you [1:31:34, 1:31:38]: Be prepared because this is probably the first wave of about [1:31:41, 1:31:49]: Ten more that'll be f coming with this in the near future. I think it's the intent of the subdivision to move out of the city as a whole. [1:31:50, 1:31:51]: Mm. [1:31:51, 1:31:53]: Yes, ma'am. Go ahead please. [1:31:53, 1:32:07]: Mayor, I was about to say that. Um, so on some of the social media outlets there are um a couple quite a few of the residents that when it was time to vote, they did not want to annex into the city of Stockbridge, but they [1:32:07, 1:32:20]: were annexed into the city. And they actually uh went out and formed petitions not to be in the city limits. They were doing that even when we were talking about annexation. Um [1:32:21, 1:32:29]: The cons w no concern, uh the county manager Sherry Hobson Matthews, on november seventh, twenty twenty three, stated [1:32:29, 1:32:34]: W w right before th there they had a camp commissioner meeting and it looked like [1:32:34, 1:32:37]: The um city of Stockbridge. [1:32:37, 1:32:41]: had received a request to annex property located on Patrick Henry Parkway. [1:32:42, 1:32:58]: But the county commissioners, um Commissioner Vivian Thomas, motioned to object to that annexation, as well as Commissioner Johnny Wilson, and they all voted to object to that six and oh. Then in return [1:32:59, 1:33:19]: right the next under the agenda, right up uh up under it, was the deannexation from the residents from Manderley. And I do believe that there will be others who try to follow suit if they want to. I mean, I peop I believe that people have a right to whether they're not they want to [1:33:18, 1:33:22]: Um [1:33:23, 1:33:37]: I'm an officer of the law, by all means, then they have a right to do so. But what I wanted to point out that was interesting is is that the county commissioners, although they deny the annexation for the city of Stockbridge, [1:33:37, 1:33:41]: When the people wanted to come in the Stockbridge, they approved. [1:33:42, 1:33:46]: this deannexation. And Mrs. Matthews stated [1:33:48, 1:34:01]: She added that once the county approves, the the city still has the right to object, just as we have done in the above annexation. Right? My point is we're better than that. [1:34:02, 1:34:05]: We're not gonna do tit for tat, we're gonna follow the law. [1:34:06, 1:34:08]: On behalf of District One. [1:34:09, 1:34:26]: If there are people who if if by law they're right next door and contiguous to the county and can deannex out, they don't want to be here for whatever reason, whether they said their taxes and things that they were promised wasn't here or given. [1:34:26, 1:34:33]: I'm straightforward. I tell it like it is. I'm black and white and I tell you the truth, whether you like it or not. [1:34:34, 1:34:54]: And we are to abide by the law. And if the law says that's what we shall do, then I'm all for them going back to the county. My con only concern is that there will be confusion in regards to borders. Um, the city of Stockbridge police and the jurisdictions and boundaries there is. That's why we [1:34:54, 1:35:09]: worked on kind of making sure that we made our cities whole in all the way around. So hopefully we can get the word out to other constituents. Listen, it's more about [1:35:09, 1:35:21]: Y it is about your health safety and welfare. It is about when s you call nine one one and the wrong jurisdiction comes, are they obligated to help you? That would be inhumane, right? But [1:35:22, 1:35:42]: Would you you are driving on the city roads just as we're driving on the county roads? But there's no ingress and egress except for on those city roads. So those things are to be taken into consideration in the future. Those are things that you can speak to your lobbyists about. Those things are things that the county should consider when they [1:35:42, 1:35:46]: They vote no and object to us. But we have class and standards. [1:35:48, 1:36:01]: And I feel like if a someone wants the use in their proper to be in the county and don't want to take advantage of the things that we will have to offer or we have to offer, then so be it. I am not offended. [1:36:01, 1:36:07]: Mayor Ford. Yes sir, please. Mayor Ford. Yes sir. Go ahead, please. I call for the vote. Okay. [1:36:08, 1:36:28]: Thank you. I I'm oh did I second or move? Well no, Mr. Barrett just seconded that. Oh how about this my district. Okay excuse me. Can I do that? Okay, excuse me. You're right. It is it is district one. Mr. Thank you. Ms. Thomas, you one I'm I'm I'm okay. I just okay I I gotcha, I gotcha. All right. I move to approve the di the de annexation. [1:36:28, 1:36:35]: Is there a second? Second. Okay, Mr. Berry second. All in favor, please indicate. Okay, damn decisions? All right, good deal. It's done. [1:36:36, 1:36:41]: Oh yes sir. So I I just give the council heads up. Um [1:36:42, 1:36:43]: Yeah. [1:36:44, 1:37:04]: Mandally did their homework. Um, they did. Um, and not everybody that requests is gonna probably be able to meet the threshold to get out. Um, and and that's just the way it is. But there are some areas that will be able to, and we hope that they obviously don't. [1:37:04, 1:37:20]: don't and understand that yes, um Stockbridge is here to provide quarterly level of service. And you're right, we're not gonna do what the county did because when the county object under the law, they were required to notify the Department of Community Affairs. [1:37:21, 1:37:37]: what those objections were under the three or four criteria. They never, on the last three annexations that came into the city, they never filed those paperwork. So in essence, those owners were held hostage for forty-five days plus. [1:37:37, 1:37:49]: in lieu of the county having to meet that standard, which they refused to send any information to DCA, and once DCA was contacted, they informed us that there were no such objections filed with their office. [1:37:50, 1:37:52]: And that's why those annexations proceeded. [1:37:52, 1:38:05]: Um in this case obviously the thresholds are a little bit more tighter for us, um, as it relates to this. Public safety, we can't use those requirements because those c were actually patrolled by county police for [1:38:06, 1:38:17]: Forty years when that was subdivision was built. So we can't use those criteria. So our objectionary areas [1:38:18, 1:38:19]: We can't use. [1:38:19, 1:38:32]: Right, is the hope that folks will understand that yes, we're here, we're providing class A service um to our residents and want to continue to be a part of this um community called the City of Stockbridge. [1:38:33, 1:38:47]: All right, uh we already had a unanimous decision on that. So thank you. Uh congratulations, Mr. Watson. Welcome. Council consideration of the Ethics Recertification Ordinance. Uh Mr. Washington, please. [1:38:53, 1:38:55]: Yeah, I made him feel very little. [1:39:00, 1:39:12]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. This is just a resolution. We're asking for you all's approval. I I understand that you all want to still be a part of the ethics as provided by GMA and the [1:39:14, 1:39:34]: Vote for this would allow us to recertify that we're a member of the ethics program. And there is the only requirements that they show if we have amended our ethics code at all. And the only thing that we have that I found was a resolution establishing a policy with respect to the issuance of censures or reprimands. And if it may [1:39:34, 1:39:38]: and meets you all's approval, we will resubmit for this certification. [1:39:39, 1:39:40]: Okay, questions councillor? [1:39:42, 1:39:44]: Mm so move. Is there a second? [1:39:45, 1:39:48]: Mr. Berry second down. All in favor, please indicate. [1:39:49, 1:39:51]: Unanimous decision. Thank you, sir. [1:39:51, 1:39:52]: Yes, ma'am. [1:39:57, 1:39:59]: Yeah, correct. Thank you very much for that. [1:40:00, 1:40:02]: We'll give f full recognition on that, okay. [1:40:04, 1:40:07]: Announcement upcoming meetings and events. [1:40:09, 1:40:29]: Mayor, if I could, I know this is uh late. Uh are we gonna have we have an executive session tonight? We will have a executive session. Okay, so we'll be having a discussion after the executive session? We if we have to have a discussion, yes it can always be done. Yeah, I just wanna make sure that we can discuss these issues as related to uh the amphitheater. [1:40:29, 1:40:46]: All right, well um do you have a you have a motion? Yes, I want to make sure that uh I want to be able to discuss uh amphitheater operation and ticket pricing uh t this evening on this agenda. A all right, is there a second to that motion? [1:40:48, 1:40:50]: Mayor Ford. Yes, Mayor. [1:40:51, 1:41:01]: To discuss the amphitheater operations, that is not that doesn't qualify for executive session. No, it's not as well. Yep. Oh, okay. [1:41:02, 1:41:16]: What I have a discussion. Are we gonna talk about are we talking about bringing in the public use of alcohol beverages or are we talking about just operations in general because operations. I don't really care to go back down [1:41:17, 1:41:18]: Another rabbit hole. [1:41:19, 1:41:20]: So [1:41:20, 1:41:26]: w wha can we limit the scope of our operations? [1:41:28, 1:41:40]: What's what's the nature of uh what's the nature of the motion so we can see whether or not the council wants to uh discuss this issue? Just talk about ticketing and pricing and the uh ticket ticket pricing at the amphitheater. [1:41:40, 1:41:42]: And pro p potential discounts. [1:41:43, 1:41:47]: All right. And Miss Barber, you second that? That's that's what your hands up for? [1:41:48, 1:41:52]: Okay, that motion is seconds. All in favor of that to be added to the agenda? [1:41:53, 1:42:01]: Okay. What's once again the motion once again the motion is discussion ticketing and potential discounts of uh tickets at the amphitheater. [1:42:03, 1:42:06]: Okay. And Ms. Barber you s still second in that motion? [1:42:06, 1:42:07]: Okay. [1:42:08, 1:42:08]: Any questions? [1:42:09, 1:42:10]: Yes. Go ahead, please. [1:42:14, 1:42:21]: At our last meeting and discussion, we sort of left something on the table. [1:42:21, 1:42:28]: that we not we did not conclude. Okay. Uh in reference to um [1:42:29, 1:42:30]: Alcohol. [1:42:30, 1:42:34]: Okay. And I'm just wondering where are we with that? I know it's [1:42:35, 1:42:52]: It's not um executive session. No sir. But it it's it appears that it it is still in numbers. Okay. And I'm just curious about that. Okay, so what it amounts we have a motion on the floor has been seconded. [1:42:52, 1:42:58]: And uh we can uh vote on that up or down. If there needs to be another motion, another motion can be made if that's the case. Right, sir. [1:42:59, 1:43:02]: I'm the motion is to [1:43:03, 1:43:04]: Okay, it's got T. [1:43:05, 1:43:05]: All right. [1:43:09, 1:43:12]: All right. On that note, all in favor of the motion please indicate. [1:43:14, 1:43:15]: On pause. [1:43:16, 1:43:19]: I oppose. Okay, so motion passed three, two. [1:43:20, 1:43:30]: Okay. And we'll we'll talk about that next before we get into um the actual announcements. But is there still another motion to be another motion to be added to the agenda? [1:43:33, 1:43:53]: Like to uh do another motion for the unfinished uh things as we discussed last week. We were waiting on some financial okay and some reporting that was your mic, your mic's not on, sir. I go ahead, please. You might go ahead. We wanted to add that to it that we also had some information that we were waiting on from the last meeting regarding. [1:43:53, 1:43:56]: [6237.1, 6238.1]: Sales and [1:43:58, 1:44:01]: Of alcohol as well as tickets from the amphitheater. [1:44:01, 1:44:07]: Uh and so wanted to reprise that conversation to see if the u updated requested information is available. [1:44:08, 1:44:09]: I support that. [1:44:09, 1:44:15]: Okay, so from Mr. Berry to Miss Uh Barber, is uh motion be made and seconded. [1:44:15, 1:44:28]: Uh all in favor, please indicate. Mayor real quick. I'm sorry. Why are we discussing that if we're not discussing alcohol bring it whether we're gonna now that we're gonna bring it in? That's just another agenda item added. [1:44:28, 1:44:33]: to discuss when we've already said we're not gonna vote on that tonight. [1:44:37, 1:44:43]: And we we said that the reason why we're discussing it tonight, if we're not gonna vote we're not gonna discuss alcohol. [1:44:43, 1:44:45]: Sale, bring in the public. [1:44:46, 1:45:01]: Yeah inf information data, that's correct. And I believe that uh I believe that uh Mr. Young is here, obviously I know Mr. Young is here and I believe he has a data along with the have a conversation and with the uh city manager. Yes sir. I'll stand by. Yes sir. Well wait a minute. Uh Ms. Gantt. [1:45:02, 1:45:06]: I I I think that it was left in limbo. [1:45:07, 1:45:10]: Um on the policy. [1:45:10, 1:45:12]: And I'm just trying to [1:45:14, 1:45:23]: I just want a decision to be made uh on the on the suggested policy concerning alcohol. I don't know how we [1:45:24, 1:45:27]: you know, discuss that'cause I know it's it's a very uh [1:45:28, 1:45:28]: Uh [1:45:29, 1:45:39]: touchy subject, very sensitive. Uh but I think these are uh issues that we have to resolve'cause I think right now it it it is not resolved and so [1:45:40, 1:45:43]: Uh when when do we attempt to resolve the issue once and for all? [1:45:45, 1:46:05]: Okay, let me do this. We had a special call meeting the other day. And in the special call meeting, I have in front of me the minutes from that special call meeting. Motion to revisit the consideration to approve an ordinance to allow patrons to bring alcohol and ampathe during the concerts with required data of alcohol concessions and ticket sales with documentation to include all manual and computer generated reports. [1:46:05, 1:46:16]: reports to be presented at the april thirtieth, twenty twenty four work session meeting. Motion was made by Councilman Alexander second by Mayor Pro Tem Berry and it was unanimous decision. All five of you said yes. Okay. [1:46:17, 1:46:18]: Okay. [1:46:18, 1:46:23]: All right, I'm ready. That's what all that's what I have in front of me. [1:46:24, 1:46:36]: Call to vote. We did not vote to re bring back the data. To bring back the data. Oh, bring back the data. Right, correct. I I agree. Let's go. [1:46:37, 1:46:43]: So Mayor Ford, yes ma'am. Can we ask if the data is available? Mr. Gardner. [1:46:44, 1:46:46]: Is the data available? [1:46:49, 1:46:50]: But you can't receive it. [1:46:54, 1:47:02]: Yes, ma'am. We have we have data for um twenty twenty three. We were still having difficulties finding the data from and getting information from [1:47:03, 1:47:06]: The former um sponsor vendor um [1:47:07, 1:47:11]: And we're still trying to effort that, but we do have data for twenty twenty three. [1:47:11, 1:47:12]: Okay? [1:47:12, 1:47:13]: Well [1:47:14, 1:47:21]: It wasn't okay, so they don't have was it has it not been sent to the council yet? I don't recall receiving it. [1:47:21, 1:47:33]: Well, remember York was a short turnaround time between Friday and Monday to try to get staff to do this. So we have some information to hand out to you guys if you guys want to discuss it, but [1:47:33, 1:47:34]: Yeah. [1:47:34, 1:47:38]: Бібен вокінстом трантина. [1:47:40, 1:47:53]: Um Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. It may be necessary for us to have another special call meeting specifically to address this, because we're not gonna get it all resolved tonight. And I certainly [1:47:53, 1:47:56]: Don't feel comfortable with making decisions. [1:47:57, 1:47:57]: Um [1:47:57, 1:48:00]: based on just what staff is [1:48:01, 1:48:03]: Telling us today without actually [1:48:03, 1:48:17]: Sharing the data for me to review it first. Well w once again, ma'am, I you know, we we did this on Thursday, tox we tossed off on Friday to get it done. If obviously getting it done in lieu of all the other stuff and trying to get [1:48:17, 1:48:35]: the information from the vendors that we could not find. And so we were able to g to get everything for twenty twenty three. We've contacted GRA, um we've looked at our bank statements, trying to make sure we have the information to reflect twenty twenty two, which we we could not we couldn't get. And so [1:48:37, 1:48:38]: My apologies. [1:48:39, 1:48:39]: Okay. [1:48:41, 1:48:41]: All right. [1:48:43, 1:49:00]: So what it what is your red your recommendation for us right now, Mr. Gardner? Of course there are decisions that we need to make before the very first concert. I I agree with if to have if we can have another meeting, I think that'll be good. Um [1:49:00, 1:49:18]: And and hopefully we'll have additional information but we can share and then council can formulate the questions based on the information we have, formulate some uh some questions and then we can meet again to discuss that and I apologize, but we we tried to effort that information. How much time does staff need? [1:49:19, 1:49:39]: Um we've been Harell's been in contact. Um uh Miss Ga Gaines has been in contact with um our folks and they hadn't returned our phone call that we sent on Friday and yesterday and today. And so we're trying to get that information from them. But like I said, we do have the 2023 data. [1:49:39, 1:49:42]: We're just having Poland's finding the twenty twenty-two data. [1:49:45, 1:49:47]: So y you need another week, week and a week ten da week? [1:49:48, 1:49:51]: Um we could come well, we have a meeting and [1:49:53, 1:49:54]: No, I don't want to meet him. [1:49:58, 1:50:00]: What do you what do you what do you talk about, sir? [1:50:01, 1:50:21]: But what what let them answer, please? No, I was saying we we do have our next meeting which is in one, two next official meetings on the thirteenth of the two and a half, two and a half weeks. Um if we get that we can send that if we get it this week, we can send it out. Cr council can formulate any questions they have and then we can answer. [1:50:21, 1:50:33]: those questions on the thirteenth if that's fine by council. Okay. Thank you for that. Miss Ms. I'm done now. You're done? I'm good. So I do have one more question. Go right, please. [1:50:33, 1:50:35]: What date is our first concert? [1:50:36, 1:50:38]: I know it's Mother's Day. [1:50:38, 1:50:39]: Leave Levin. [1:50:41, 1:50:44]: Okay. [1:50:44, 1:50:50]: Okay, so then we have decisions that we need to make before the first concert. [1:50:52, 1:51:00]: So if we're gonna have another special call meeting, um we need to schedule that maybe Monday or Tuesday of next week. [1:51:00, 1:51:06]: Prior to our city council meeting. You can, yes, ma'am. If that's the wish of council, yes. [1:51:06, 1:51:07]: That's just my thought. [1:51:09, 1:51:26]: Right, so how did w w is the information going to help change your decision in terms of what you're going to do?'Cause I mean what what was previously expressed was we needed the twenty twenty two information and if the vendor's not forthcoming, we may never get the information. [1:51:26, 1:51:29]: And and we'll be able to tell you, we you know [1:51:29, 1:51:34]: B by the end of this week, if we don't get it, the likelihood of us getting it is probably nil and [1:51:35, 1:51:39]: fishing it out of what we can was what we were told. [1:51:40, 1:51:45]: that we didn't want. So then that that ties our hand to trying to get actual [1:51:45, 1:51:47]: Receive data from them. [1:51:47, 1:51:48]: Um [1:51:48, 1:52:08]: And we can call a special call meeting any time. So if you get the information, you get it to us and then we can call a special call meeting at any time, correct? Yes, sir. So we don't have to set the date for the meeting. As soon as you get the information, you send it to us and then we can call a meeting. We'll do. [1:52:08, 1:52:13]: That's one thing. And number two, to to execute that we would have to have at least have a quorum present. [1:52:14, 1:52:15]: Correct. [1:52:15, 1:52:29]: So if we don't get anything Thursday afternoon call, you can have it on Wednesday or Tuesday of next week if you so choose if everybody's free and available. Now now we got a couple other things to do. There were motions on the floor. I think there were there there's one excuse me. [1:52:29, 1:52:33]: All right, so there's one motion that was made by Mr Alexander, I believe it was [1:52:37, 1:52:57]: You made most from the data. So are what are you will are you willing to withdraw that? I w I will withdraw my motion for the data based on the conversations we just had with the uh city manager regarding them needing more time to get the data. Okay. All right. So that's that's been now been withdrawn. And I was I don't I guess if you withdrew it that the person of second [1:52:57, 1:53:16]: All right. And the motion that Mr. Alexander made, it passed and that dealt with uh ticket sales. Is that what it was? Yes, sir. I wanted to be able to discuss Okay one hold a second. I just want to get clarified Mr. Alexander. I'm sorry, Ms uh Ms. Halden. [1:53:18, 1:53:28]: Okay, okay. And it pa and it passed three twos is what I understand. Okay. All right. So so it sounds like we're gonna deal with your particular motion. What else do you need to say at this point? [1:53:28, 1:53:34]: Right. We got the we already passed my motion. I just want we we want to go ahead and get started with it. Yes, go right in with discussion. [1:53:34, 1:53:54]: Yes, as we have Mr uh Gardner and Mr Uh Young at the podium right now. Correct uh right now we're tr as we're trying to get ready for our first concert, which is on May the eleventh, um you you provided us with some ticket sales data. I see that we [1:53:54, 1:54:12]: We got some of the pages or d but certainly I would like to enter to know whether we got all of the pages of the particular reports uh to be inclusive of everything that you were given or were we just given a synopsis of what you generated? I'm not sure what you have in your hand. [1:54:13, 1:54:13]: Um [1:54:14, 1:54:15]: Oh yeah. [1:54:15, 1:54:21]: I'm sorry. Do you didn't create these you didn't send these reports? Okay. [1:54:27, 1:54:30]: That was on the dais when we arrived today. [1:54:31, 1:54:34]: It was sent to us via email. I assume that you had prepared this. [1:54:35, 1:54:37]: They're standing, those came from prices. [1:54:37, 1:54:38]: Yeah. [1:54:41, 1:54:54]: That came from that that data came directly from Fresh Ticks as you requested. This came from them in this form, just like this? Yes, sir. No no header no reports, nothing. That's what w when you when you request it, that's what comes over. [1:54:54, 1:55:08]: Okay, in the first report uh that I see on top here, there's two numbers. The first number says fresh tickets three eighty three, the second number, fifty seven thousand five hundred and fourteen dollars. What does that represent? [1:55:09, 1:55:10]: Actual ticket sales. [1:55:10, 1:55:20]: Okay. That's actual ticket sales. And then the then the other number, there they're two level of tickets. So it should equal up to eight hundred and some dollars. [1:55:20, 1:55:39]: So what what is the the three eighty three is the actual tickets? No, uh it's actual tickets that's discounted. We have discount tickets and we also have actual tickets at at the fr at the full price. So the full price total of eight hundred and eighteen t dollar is it eight hundred and eighteen? I'm sorry. I don't have it in front of me in the report. [1:55:39, 1:55:39]: Thank you. [1:55:40, 1:55:58]: So three hundred and eighty-three tickets were sold at some type of discount. Subscribe those discounts. The discount was when we had the the the first sale of our the box office sale. Mm-hmm. And then we went on to full um up to that date until I pulled the report on Monday. [1:55:58, 1:56:01]: Okay, and the four hundred and twenty five represent what? [1:56:02, 1:56:05]: current sale. After the after the first discount. [1:56:05, 1:56:08]: Okay, so those tickets are at full free tier. [1:56:08, 1:56:20]: That's that's exactly what was sold. Okay, now in looking at this report, that's a total of eight hundred and eleven, you said? Yes, sir. And that is uh as of today. [1:56:20, 1:56:34]: As as of no, as of yesterday we had eight we had we sold five more tickets so far. Okay, so and there from what I'm looking at in terms of your attendance figures, we have um sellout concerts here at [1:56:35, 1:56:49]: OJ's thirty six seventy one. I think this baby face total is a mistake. It's got four thousand. So is it you said this general this was fresh tickets, David? That that spreadsheet was not fr fresh ticks. [1:56:49, 1:57:09]: Right,'cause it says four thousand. Right. Now you have previously indicated that there were ten particular sellouts. What classifies as a sellout? I see thirty five hundred for Fantasia, thirty-five, thirty-four,'cause I thought we had a total of thirty five hundred seats. You don't have thirty five hundred seats, you have a total of [1:57:09, 1:57:13]: What what's we have you have a total sellable ticket around [1:57:22, 1:57:23]: Yeah. [1:57:28, 1:57:48]: We have a executive session plan for something else concerning legal, but what my concern is that some of this may also be something that we may need to speak about in executive session. I I just want to make the I I'm just wanna I'll just I'm trying to stick to just the ticket sales in general and the pricing. If I could just ask some subsequent questions, I'll try. [1:57:48, 1:58:08]: Change my line of questioning. But the reason why the reason why I'm saying this though, so just so everybody understands, is that some of this is connected to trade secrets that we're arguing that are not subject to public disclosure. So that's what the concerns is. So we can ask about some of that stuff, but some of that stuff also relates, some of that stuff is interrelated with other stuff. Well, can you just say okay? [1:58:08, 1:58:11]: Do you just stop if that that is actually the case? [1:58:11, 1:58:31]: Yeah, that's fine. Just say objection and and certainly I'll change. So I over the over the weekend. Uh yes, it is. What? So I just think that because there are some parts of this in executive session, even asking a question right now wouldn't be the smartest thing to do. [1:58:31, 1:58:40]: So I just think that we shouldn't talk about this at all until after if we're gonna either talk about it or receive [1:58:40, 1:58:59]: other information because it's it's it's tied to the subject matter in executive session. So I get that we can't talk about certain things, but there is a fine line. And so having to stand up and catch cer certain things and object and think about it. [1:58:59, 1:59:19]: even though it's part of the subject matter, I think we should be very cautious of that in general, uh just in general. And I feel like because it's part of it could be um any any part of it or any [1:59:19, 1:59:24]: Any word or any answer to any question could could attach [1:59:25, 1:59:30]: I think that we should pause this questioning or presentation. [1:59:30, 1:59:42]: at least until after executive session if you guys feel that you need to come back in and ask additional questions that aren't pertaining to executive session, that's one thing. But I don't feel comfortable. [1:59:44, 1:59:53]: with any line of questioning in regards to any topics right now, especially if anything uh based off of what our attorney just stated. [1:59:54, 1:59:58]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Uh I wanna concur with that and [1:59:59, 2:00:04]: My concern as well is and what was stated as well. [2:00:05, 2:00:15]: that a lot of the contracts with the artists was based on ticket sales, ticket amounts. [2:00:15, 2:00:20]: And I think we're going into an area where we're we're jeopardizing. [2:00:20, 2:00:22]: Uh contracts. [2:00:22, 2:00:42]: And I think that's gonna lead into another issue. So I would agree um to have this discussion in executive session. Um just to be safe, and I don't see why we could not just discuss all of this in executive session. Why you have to discuss some of it out here and some in executive session? [2:00:42, 2:01:02]: need to be safe. Well I would say if I could mayor is that this is a public discussion on the amphitheater and what the pricing is. Some of these things can't be discussed in executive session. If it's not regarding legal real estate or personnel they can't be discussed uh in executive session. So I want to make sure [2:01:02, 2:01:22]: sure that we're doing what's necessary. We got people here interested in the particular subject. So I was going to just simply say that Mabel House has a$50 ticket. Oh we and certainly uh Chastain over the weekend announced a$45 ticket. So certainly I wanted to look at doing that. [2:01:22, 2:01:42]: And over the weekend it was suggested uh by Ms. Watson, who is here tonight, that we include a military discount uh for military personnel which we had not uh considered at this point. But certainly I can address what you just said, I mean, real quick without going into major discount. This weekend [2:01:42, 2:02:02]: We've already planned we've we've been planning for the last few weeks, my staff, a box office party again. We're doing major discounts, not based on what we hear in there. We've been planning this for a couple weeks. We're doing major discounts. Basically, we're doing fifty dollar tickets in the in some of the areas, okay? This has already been pre-planned. [2:02:02, 2:02:22]: Not on based on what we hearing on the internet on social media. Um this is something we've been doing for we did a pre-party when we first opened the box office and the first week before the concert, we have already been planning that. So that's gonna take place this weekend. The uh other thing that there's some things that we cannot discuss because [2:02:22, 2:02:42]: Because the ticket prices are based on, which I explained to you all in the last meeting, based on artist contracts, based on the amount of artists. People ask me why the tickets go up. The artist price went up, and I don't want to get into major reasons whose prices went up. There's a reason why our tickets are set the way they are. [2:02:42, 2:02:45]: And we um I've had a conversation with um [2:02:46, 2:03:06]: an expert today and the mayor w witnessed a call and um I couldn't get everybody on the call at the same time. But then we had an expert who from uh an uh a management company, the one in Macon, general manager of Macon, explained about our ticket prices. He's been doing this about thirty years. And he m he mentioned [2:03:06, 2:03:07]: Our ticket prices are low. [2:03:08, 2:03:18]: The based on what he said. Based on what he said, based on what we doing as far based on what he his expertise, he actually said our ticket prices are low. [2:03:19, 2:03:22]: Oh good well. [2:03:22, 2:03:42]: Go ahead, f go ahead. You did say that, but it finish your comments, sir, and I I got something I need to say in the session. Oh, I I'm I do ask questions, sir. Okay. What I'll okay, then fine. What I want to say is if since we had some discussion here, if this if if is the council and meaningful for receive a motion to go in when we go into secondary session, because we have to go in the second session to get deeper dive in this so we make sure we don't cross over. [2:03:42, 2:03:43]: Yeah, will it [2:03:44, 2:03:47]: The answer is yes. Okay, I need a motion. Give me emotions. [2:03:47, 2:04:01]: I make a motion that we move this conversation to executive session to have uh further detailed conversations about uh the finances and the budget and the ticket price sets as well as the discount. [2:04:01, 2:04:19]: Is there a second? I second. Mr. Mr. Umma second, all favorite pleasing the case. You can't do that. You gotta personnel, litigation, and real estate issues. That's it. Legal. Exactly. Some of this has to be the same. But it has no what I'm saying is we have to vote to make a motion to go into executive session for litigation issues. [2:04:19, 2:04:20]: Yes, I want me. [2:04:21, 2:04:41]: Well we we we haven't got that well we can we can mention this now to to go on this extent, but uh but we still got other things to go through. It's attached to the litigation issue. Okay. You can't like specify. Well says this is a potential litigation matter based on contracts that have been signed by the city for the artists, et cetera. [2:04:41, 2:04:42]: Okay. [2:04:42, 2:05:01]: So you have to if we rest restate that that we'll go in for this for this place. So we I'll restate that that we will uh go in executive session based on the potential uh litigation issue with the contracts with the artists and the additional uh ramifications behind the the financial contracts. Is there a second? A second. [2:05:01, 2:05:03]: Let's get a second. All in favor, please indicate. [2:05:04, 2:05:05]: Uh [2:05:05, 2:05:08]: Now it's decision. All right. We're not going to second session right now, sir. [2:05:09, 2:05:29]: Not not now. No, we got we gotta go in it. We might as well all go in one time. Not now. We've got a couple of things to do deal with so okay. We'll yeah, you you can have a sit down, sir. We're not gonna do that just yet. All right, we'll get it we'll get into that concession for that. All right. Council meetings, uh events and and uh initiatives here. Council meetings will be held in the city council chambers, meeting dates and location and time. [2:05:29, 2:05:49]: or subject to change or contact study hall offices at 770-389-7900 or visit the website www.stopbridgega.org for updates. Stockbridge Citizens, the police of uh virus council meeting first Thursday of each month at 6 p.m. Stockbridge Police Community Room 4545 North Henry Boulevard May 2nd. The main street of virus [2:05:48, 2:06:08]: Board meeting second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. location in downtown Downtown Connection Center, 1:30, ML King Senior Heritage Trail, May 10th. 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[2:06:47, 2:07:07]: Join Mayor Pro Tem Kyle Berry for the annual National Day of Prayer on Thursday, May 2nd in the City Hall Council Chamber at 6 30 p.m. Join Councilman Afonso Thomas for the monthly Senior Bingo Bash on Wednesday, May 15th at 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merrill Manos Conference Center at 111 Davis Road for raffles, prizes, games, snacks, and fun. Join Mayor Anthony. [2:07:07, 2:07:27]: Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Monday, May 20th from 10 a.m. to noon at Starbury City Hall. Join the City Council for the annual Memorial March on Monday, May 27th, the Murr Man's Conference Center, as we remember those who gave the ultimate sacrifice to stay tuned. Stay tuned for the city's website and social media platforms for more information to participate in content. [2:07:27, 2:07:47]: Contact the events team at 770-389-5982. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative Centered Around Education, highlighting the causes and effects of littering and legal dumpling. More information to follow. Once again, join Councilman Thomas for Army Veterans and continuous salute all year long. Please send your pictures veterans with their names, brands. [2:07:47, 2:08:07]: Rank and years of service. Please contact Rosland Rawls to schedule appointment for Meet the Mayor. For more information on council initiatives and events, call 678-833-3348 or by way of email R. Rawls at stopbridge-g-a dot or g. The 2024 Stockbridge Ampathy Council C is currently at the stand. [2:08:07, 2:08:27]: September 11th, excuse me, Saturday, May 11th, Mother's Day concert featuring Tyrese, Eric Bonnet, Isaiah Tatum. Saturday, the 25th, May 25th, the funk party featuring Zap, Evelyn Champagne, King, Rolls Royce, Rick James, Stone City Band. Saturday, June 18th, excuse me, Saturday, June 8th. TLC celebrating the 30th anniversary of the University of the University of the University [2:08:27, 2:08:47]: Of sexy, crazy, sexy, cool album with special guest Brownstone. Saturday, July 13th, and Sunday, July 14th, A Night with Kim and Special Guest Leela James. Saturday, July 20th, is Lay's Night Out featuring Jodice, Johnny Gill, and Silk. Saturday, July 27th, a 70 Soul Jam featuring Shylights, Manhattan's Legend. [2:08:47, 2:09:07]: Blue notes, Bloodstone, and Peaching the Herb. And Happy Mother's Day to every folks, folks. I know it's just coming up in a couple weeks. Happy Mother's Day to everybody. And of course, Memorial Day is coming, so we already announced that in a sense. And if you want to get an idea of what occurred during the State of the City address I gave last week is on our website. [2:09:07, 2:09:27]: You can go check that out in that aspect. And uh one of the announcements uh we will have a joint splash six town hall. That will be a joint splash six town splash six town hall meeting with Henry County and the city of Stockbridge to be conducted with the public to discuss potential projects and collaborations. The meeting will take place at 6 p.m. on the evening of May 9th. [2:09:26, 2:09:29]: ninth, twenty twenty four Mermanz Conference Center. [2:09:29, 2:09:33]: And on that note now we need a Yes ma'am. [2:09:34, 2:09:34]: What's that? [2:09:36, 2:09:56]: Oh yeah. I'm good deal. Food Truck Tasty Tuesday is back for the first Food Truck Trace Tasty Tuesday. Event happening May seventh, twenty twenty four, five thirty, eight PM Clark Park, located one one Davis Road and stop right here, of course in Stockbridge. It will be live music, food trucks, free games and dynamic playground for the kiddos, right? Mean us all Clark Park. [2:09:56, 2:10:01]: See a Stockbridge, tell your neighbor. Text you Tuesdays, May seventh, five thirty to eight PM Clark Park. [2:10:01, 2:10:05]: Mayor Ford. Yes sir. Like to make a comment on one of the announcements? Yes, sir. [2:10:06, 2:10:06]: Um [2:10:07, 2:10:23]: I know every council meeting we ask citizens to submit pictures of um uh their veterans. Uh I like to uh enhance that somewhat to ask citizens and family members to submit their pictures. [2:10:23, 2:10:43]: of those uh servicemen and women that actually um passed during combat or served and that has passed away, I would like to uh showcase and present uh those pictures, if you will. And I will be getting with my staff and the PIO officer [2:10:43, 2:10:50]: to put this out there a little heavier. I'd just like to share with all of the citizens here in Stock Grid [2:10:50, 2:11:10]: the the pictures of all those who uh served, those that uh perished in war, and those that serve and thus far has has perished. I like to showcase that. So I just want to emphasize that. And I know we ask every month, but I just want to emphasize this a little heavier. Um and I [2:11:10, 2:11:13]: I will showcase this during Memorial Weekend. [2:11:13, 2:11:18]: Okay, thank you, sir. Appreciate that. Now council, I need a motion to go to an executive session for legal personnel and real estate. [2:11:19, 2:11:21]: So moved. [2:11:22, 2:11:25]: Mr. from Gantt to Mr. Berry, all fair please indicate. [2:11:26, 2:11:28]: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be in one second session. We'll be back as soon as we're done. [2:11:30, 2:11:31]: We are indeed. [2:12:38, 2:12:49]: And from our exact session we have no issues to bring forward at this time, so now I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. So moved. Okay, from Mr. Thomas. Thomas, Mr. Thomas. Oh Mr. Thomas. Mr. Thomas, who's second that? [2:12:49, 2:13:00]: Sorry. Okay. Wait, wait, whoa, from Alexander Thomas. Okay. Okay, I got it. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. All right. Meetings adjourned. Thank you. I bless you all. Let's go.

--- title: Planning Commission date: 2024-04-18 source: 2024-04-18_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:01:16, 0:01:16]: Yeah. [0:02:26, 0:02:31]: It is now six thirty. The planning commission meeting will now come to order. [0:02:38, 0:02:41]: Madam Secretary, could I have a roll call, please? [0:02:54, 0:02:56]: Good evening, Chair. [0:02:57, 0:02:58]: Stanley Doumas. [0:02:58, 0:02:59]: Present. [0:03:00, 0:03:01]: David Planchon. [0:03:03, 0:03:05]: Anthony Mitten. [0:03:05, 0:03:05]: Present. [0:03:17, 0:03:18]: In Williams. [0:03:18, 0:03:18]: President. [0:03:23, 0:03:24]: Thank you. [0:03:27, 0:03:29]: We have an indication about this condition. [0:03:31, 0:03:47]: All right, thank you. Father, we thank you for the opportunity to meet tonight. We ask that you would guide us as we make some important decisions. Bless this council, bless this city, be with us as we go from this place. Take us home safely. For it's in your blessed name we ask this. Amen. [0:03:49, 0:03:50]: But we stand for the pledge. [0:03:56, 0:04:09]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, my nation, undergard, invisible, with liberty and justice law. [0:04:18, 0:04:21]: I need a motion please to adopt the agenda. [0:04:23, 0:04:26]: Motion I make a motion to adopt the agenda as is. [0:04:27, 0:04:28]: And second, please. [0:04:29, 0:04:29]: Second. [0:04:30, 0:04:37]: It's been moved and second that we adopt the j agenda as presented. All in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:04:37, 0:04:38]: Uh. [0:04:40, 0:04:43]: All opposed? Dies have it. The agenda is adopted. [0:04:47, 0:04:53]: You have before you the minutes from the January twenty fifth meeting. [0:04:55, 0:05:03]: If you haven't already done so, just take a moment to peruse the minutes. Make note of any necessary corrections. [0:05:10, 0:05:17]: Madam Secretary, I do have one correction to the minutes. Item number seven. [0:05:18, 0:05:20]: Text amendment case. [0:05:24, 0:05:31]: TX Twitter twenty four oh one ordinance to allow for additional licenses for several type of businesses. [0:05:34, 0:05:43]: On the board comments and actions, you have printed that Stanley Dumas asked how the lottery system would work. [0:05:45, 0:05:52]: I would like to correct that to read Harold Thibodeau asked how the lottery system would work. [0:06:00, 0:06:01]: Did you get that, please? [0:06:05, 0:06:07]: Are there any other corrections? [0:06:15, 0:06:18]: I need a motion to approve the minutes from January twenty fifth meeting. [0:06:19, 0:06:22]: Chairman, Mr. Mitten makes a motion to approve the minutes. [0:06:25, 0:06:25]: Is there a second? [0:06:29, 0:06:35]: It's been moved and second that the amendments from January twenty-fifth be adopted, approved. [0:06:35, 0:06:37]: All in failure it'd be known by the sound of that. [0:06:38, 0:06:40]: Uh all right. Any opposed? [0:06:40, 0:06:43]: Thomas. Does have it. The minute saw approved. [0:06:52, 0:06:54]: We have new business. [0:07:09, 0:07:10]: Readings board. [0:07:12, 0:07:21]: Tonight we will conduct an election of officers. We're only um conducting the chair and vice chair tonight. [0:07:24, 0:07:30]: So first um we'll open the floor to take nominations of chair. [0:07:33, 0:07:37]: I'd like to nominate uh Mr. Stanley Dumas for chair. [0:07:41, 0:07:43]: And Mr. Dumas, do you accept? [0:07:47, 0:07:50]: If there are the Northern nominations I will accept. [0:07:51, 0:07:52]: Any other nominations? [0:07:56, 0:07:57]: Okay. [0:07:57, 0:08:06]: So it is duly recognized and accepted that Dumas has accepted the motion for chair. [0:08:11, 0:08:17]: Now I would like to open the floor for vice chair. Madam Chair, does that require a vote? [0:08:17, 0:08:21]: From the commission. Sure, we can go ahead and take a vote. I think we should. [0:08:21, 0:08:32]: Okay. So all that is I'm sorry. Sorry. Go ahead. Sorry. All in favor of Stanley Dumas being chairperson, let it be known by the sign of eye. [0:08:33, 0:08:34]: Aye. Aye. [0:08:34, 0:08:37]: Can I pose? Nice have it. [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: Consider it done. [0:08:44, 0:08:51]: Awesome. So now we would like to open the floor to accept nominations for vice chair. [0:08:54, 0:08:57]: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to nominate Harold Thibodeau for vice chair. [0:09:04, 0:09:16]: Mister uh Mitten, Mr. Thibodeau has already served as vice chair in the past. I don't know if that precludes him from serving again. [0:09:19, 0:09:22]: So he can't. So he can't. [0:09:23, 0:09:23]: Okay. [0:09:26, 0:09:29]: In that case I would like to nominate Anthony Mitten as vice chair. [0:09:38, 0:09:40]: Are there any other nominations? [0:09:43, 0:09:44]: A second. [0:09:48, 0:09:50]: It's been moved and seconded. [0:09:51, 0:09:58]: That Mr. Mitten be appointed as vice chair of the companion commission. All those in favor, let it be known by the sound of eye. [0:09:59, 0:10:01]: Aye. Any opposed? [0:10:03, 0:10:05]: The eyes have it. [0:10:05, 0:10:06]: Consider it done. [0:10:07, 0:10:18]: Congratulations. We have Mr. Stanley Dumas as chair of Planning Commission and Mr. Anthony Mitten as vice chair. Again, congratulations. [0:10:19, 0:10:19]: Thank you. [0:10:28, 0:10:30]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. [0:10:31, 0:10:33]: Item number two, mail notice requirement. [0:10:36, 0:10:36]: Staff. [0:10:49, 0:10:57]: Good evening chair, my name is Boyle Linton Channel 1 and I'll be presenting to you the exact amendment for the mail deliverance department. [0:11:03, 0:11:03]: Yeah. [0:11:05, 0:11:25]: So this is the previous um amendment, this is the previous text that we had in section 9.34 of the stock version by development code. And it briefly said that mail notice should have been provided to all adjacent properties. However, um while adjacent properties were [0:11:25, 0:11:43]: aware of the public notice other citizens in surrounding areas were not a made of notice of the uh zoning cases so we had a lot of uh concerns about that so therefore we decided to amend section 9.34 [0:11:45, 0:12:05]: From adjacent property owners to mail notice requirement of 500 feet for public meetings for hearing percerning zoning map, any special use permits, uh amendment of the UDC, major modification of the zoning conditions and bearances, and not only that but the notice. [0:12:05, 0:12:10]: [730.8, 739.2]: Purpose of the request to action. And for any requested amendments on the matter, the notice shall include the current proposal and action. [0:12:29, 0:12:32]: And instead it says mail notice shall be pro provided [0:12:34, 0:12:54]: To all adjacent properties that share a boundary line at least fifteen but not more than thirty calendars days prior to the date of the hearing for all variances, conditional use, modifications, and amendment to the zoning map. And it says that applicants shall mail these notices and provide a community development director approval mailing. [0:12:53, 0:12:56]: A minimum of seven days prior to the scheduled public hearing. [0:13:00, 0:13:11]: And so we did a research, we looked at thirteen different cities um and counties, and the most common denominator that we had was five hundred feet. [0:13:15, 0:13:34]: And based on the research done by the community develop development, staff is recommending the city to extend the mail notice requirement for adjacent property owners only to five hundred meet five five hundred meet. And it was brought before the mayor council work session on March twenty sixth, twenty twenty four with uh approval. [0:13:36, 0:13:37]: And that's it. [0:13:39, 0:13:42]: Thank you, Gordon. Any questions from staff? [0:13:48, 0:13:50]: I have one uh [0:13:53, 0:13:58]: The adjacent property requirement that was in the old [0:14:00, 0:14:07]: Code that's being measured from the property line, that's correct? Yes. And that will continue to be measured from the property line. [0:14:09, 0:14:22]: Going five hundred feet in in every direction. Yes. Okay. That is to increase the n amount of people that get notified when something's going to be. Yeah, to me to be made aware of uh zone cases. Okay. [0:14:23, 0:14:28]: I move approval. I'm sorry. I I need a motion to approve. [0:14:29, 0:14:33]: Mr. Chairman, I make the motion to approve. Is there a second? Second. [0:14:33, 0:14:42]: It's been moved and seconded that we approve the mail notice requirement, the amendment to the unified development code. All in favor, let it be known by the sound of I. [0:14:43, 0:14:45]: Hi. You know polls? [0:14:46, 0:14:48]: Eyes have it. Consider it done. [0:14:49, 0:14:49]: Thank you. [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Thank you, sir. [0:14:55, 0:15:07]: Item number three, text amendment case, TX twenty twenty-four-o three. Consideration of a text amendment to amend title twelve Unified Development Code. [0:15:07, 0:15:22]: of the stock brid Stockbridge Code of ordinances to provide for various changes to section two point five point two, which contains the regulations for partway mixed use overlay districts. [0:15:24, 0:15:25]: Miss Jackson, please. [0:15:26, 0:15:46]: Greetings again. Thank you so much for reading that into the record. Uh correct. Staff is bringing before you an ordinance to amend Title 12 of the City of Stockbridge Unified Development Code, and we are amending sections two point five point two C and [0:15:46, 0:15:49]: Section two point five point two D. [0:15:52, 0:16:12]: So the purpose of the parkway mitts use overlay is to encourage a balanced mitts of retail, professional, residential, civic, entertainment, and cultural uses. And what we are focusing on again is letters C and D of section 2.5.2. [0:16:12, 0:16:20]: In your packet before you, you should see the current reading of that code, and let's focus on letter C that says permitted uses. [0:16:21, 0:16:36]: So as of now, the code reads any combination of uses permitted in C1, C2, OI, CCR, and MFR are permitted in the overlay district. [0:16:37, 0:16:41]: If you turn your attention to the packet in red that looks like this. [0:16:42, 0:16:45]: Red indicates the changes we are making. [0:16:46, 0:16:49]: And I'm going to read into record what it will read. [0:16:50, 0:17:10]: So C will still be labeled permitted uses, and it will now read any combination of uses permitted in C1, C2, OI, CCR, and MFR are permitted in the parkway MITS use, also known as PMU overlay district. [0:17:10, 0:17:17]: provided that they are not among the prohibited uses in section two point five point two D. [0:17:18, 0:17:19]: Which is listed below. [0:17:20, 0:17:35]: And provided that they meet the stated recomm requirements for the special uses that are listed in section two point five point two C one and section two point five point two C two, which is also below. [0:17:35, 0:17:42]: So I want to call you call your attention back to this sheet that has the prohibited uses as of now. [0:17:42, 0:17:53]: So some of those prohibited uses have been removed from that list and now placed under special uses. And those uses are gasoline stations. [0:17:54, 0:17:56]: Um automobil wash. [0:17:56, 0:18:11]: or you may see it as car washes, um, convenience stores, and other associated uses. So for anyone that's applying to um build a gasoline station, they will now have to go through the special use process. [0:18:12, 0:18:16]: Under B you will see restaurants with drive through. [0:18:16, 0:18:33]: that also was previously listed as a prohibited use, now one will be allowed to do a restaurant with drive-thru through a special use process. And that will include restaurants with drive-thru that have facilities or windows. [0:18:35, 0:18:40]: And other special uses too uh will be determined by the community development director. [0:18:42, 0:18:55]: Now I call your attention to number two, the requirements for special uses. As I mentioned before, you um the applicant would need to go through a special use process to do this. [0:18:55, 0:19:01]: The special use must be located on a property which has a frontage on a [0:19:01, 0:19:13]: Well, it says either either a major collector and I don't think that is in your packet, so I just want to call your attention that it must be a major collector or an arterial road. [0:19:13, 0:19:20]: as is classified by the Georgia Department of Transportation or the Henry County Department of Transportation. [0:19:21, 0:19:33]: B says the property must have a base zoning district which allows such uses. All property designs, this is ceased, all property design standards of the base zoning district must be met. [0:19:33, 0:19:35]: D [0:19:35, 0:19:41]: Any existing non-conforming structure structures may not be enlarged. [0:19:42, 0:19:49]: E. Building facades for both primary and accessory structures must be constructed for [0:19:49, 0:19:51]: А брик он алсайд. [0:19:52, 0:19:53]: F [0:19:53, 0:20:10]: At gasoline stations, an equal number of electric charging stations as gas pumps must be provided on the site, and covered canopies must be provided over gas pumps and electric charging stations. [0:20:11, 0:20:17]: G states an acceptable means of access in internal circulation must be provided. [0:20:17, 0:20:20]: to be determined by the fire marshal. [0:20:22, 0:20:27]: H the required number of parking spaces must be provided. [0:20:28, 0:20:32]: I the required buffers must be provided. [0:20:32, 0:20:39]: And J, the special requirements to be determined by the community development director. [0:20:40, 0:21:00]: So letter D, which is labeled prohibited uses, are now reflecting 19 prohibited uses, whereas before there were 22, and I called your attention that some of those are now required now require special use permits. One that is [0:21:00, 0:21:03]: recently added um [0:21:03, 0:21:15]: that was not a prohibited use prior was number 17, industrial uses, warehouses, and business distribution centers. So that is now a prohibited use. [0:21:18, 0:21:29]: So that covers section two point five point two C and two point five point two D. And if you look at section two, there's just some language stating that um [0:21:29, 0:21:39]: the existing Title twelve section two point five point two C and section two point five point two D are hereby repealed. [0:21:40, 0:21:42]: And that [0:21:42, 0:21:44]: Concludes my presentation. [0:21:53, 0:22:01]: Mr. Chair, I make a motion uh that we approve um idle number three text amendment case tx dash twenty twenty-four dash oh three. [0:22:03, 0:22:04]: And a second, please. [0:22:05, 0:22:05]: What's that? [0:22:06, 0:22:17]: It's been moved and properly seconded that we accept the text amendment case number tx twenty twenty-four-03. [0:22:18, 0:22:20]: All in favor let me know my son of a. [0:22:21, 0:22:22]: Uh [0:22:22, 0:22:23]: Any opposed? [0:22:24, 0:22:25]: Does have it. [0:22:27, 0:22:28]: The amendment is approved. [0:22:29, 0:22:31]: Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Jax. [0:22:37, 0:22:47]: Any comments, additional comments from staff? Uh not really, but I I would like to welcome our new planning commission member aboard and we're glad to have you on board, sir. [0:22:47, 0:22:48]: Thank you very much. [0:22:51, 0:22:57]: Mr. Anderson, I believe there's some good news on your behalf. Oh yes, sir. [0:22:57, 0:23:06]: Yeah, I was you wanna share that with us? Yeah, I was named community development director on um um April fourth. Well not April Fourth, March fourth. [0:23:07, 0:23:10]: But we have we hadn't had a meeting since then, but [0:23:11, 0:23:13]: Congratulations, sir. [0:23:13, 0:23:21]: Also um we need to add something um for you for your consideration is a plat that um that we'll need to chair personal signature on. [0:23:24, 0:23:25]: It's in your package. [0:23:26, 0:23:39]: for the leading free development that was uh recently that was approved um about two years uh well a year and a half ago. Is that this thing right here? Yes. Okay. [0:23:43, 0:23:45]: Uh you got to sign at least two cops for [0:23:46, 0:23:49]: Okay, we're only got one second. [0:23:51, 0:23:55]: I only have one copy. Oh boy's gonna give you an additional copy. [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: Okay. [0:24:06, 0:24:07]: Thank you, sir. [0:24:08, 0:24:10]: Hold on, I'll give it back to you. [0:24:13, 0:24:15]: What is this? What is it? [0:24:16, 0:24:19]: That's probably nothing. [0:24:21, 0:24:23]: The apartment, the towns are there. [0:24:26, 0:24:27]: Didn't bother? [0:24:28, 0:24:29]: Yeah. [0:24:30, 0:24:30]: It passed. [0:24:33, 0:24:34]: Yeah it's [0:24:35, 0:24:37]: That's done, Mr. Anderson. [0:24:38, 0:24:40]: Is are there in the comments from the board? [0:24:42, 0:24:56]: Uh Chairman, congratulations to you and uh and our vice chair on the board. Congratulations to you, Ryan, as well and uh Miss Keija, welcome to the to the planning commission and the team of the uh community development. Uh it's good to see you fellas. That's all I got, Chair. [0:24:56, 0:25:00]: Thank you, sir. Couldn't say it better myself. Thank you very much. [0:25:03, 0:25:07]: If there's nothing else, the meeting stands adjoined. [0:25:15, 0:25:18]: I just got it. [0:25:20, 0:25:31]: I didn't see the ordinance, I just saw the the exhibit. But but I'll just make sure it was just on the team.

--- title: Citywide Development Authority Special Called Meeting date: 2024-04-16 source: 2024-04-16_Citywide_Development_Authority_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:04, 0:00:05]: Attorney Wiley. [0:00:06, 0:00:08]: Attorney Wiley, do we have a quorum? [0:00:15, 0:00:18]: Yeah, four, one, two, three. [0:00:20, 0:00:21]: Are we missing a board member? [0:00:22, 0:00:24]: Remember we had a resignation. [0:00:29, 0:00:31]: We are missing one board member. Well, two. [0:00:35, 0:00:40]: So uh we we need quorum, madam. [0:00:42, 0:00:42]: Sure. [0:00:44, 0:00:51]: You have four. Mr. Woodall is online, Miss Gleaton, Miss Samuels, and Chairshaw. [0:00:51, 0:00:56]: Okay. Do you want to go ahead and call um Madam Clerk? We go ahead and do the [0:00:56, 0:01:02]: routine um attendance call so that we can start the meeting. Okay, I can do that. Chair Shaw. [0:01:06, 0:01:07]: Present. [0:01:07, 0:01:09]: Okay. Bye Share Samuels. [0:01:11, 0:01:12]: Here. [0:01:12, 0:01:13]: Secretary Glenn. [0:01:16, 0:01:17]: Treasure would all. [0:01:24, 0:01:26]: Uh you're beauty, Mr. Bodal. [0:01:27, 0:01:29]: Uh I'm sorry, I had it muted, present. [0:01:30, 0:01:32]: And board member Clayton. [0:01:32, 0:01:33]: Present. [0:01:34, 0:01:35]: Oh. [0:01:35, 0:01:36]: Councilwoman. [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: Get. [0:01:40, 0:01:43]: Let the record reflect that board member [0:01:44, 0:01:46]: Gleighton, I'm sorry, Glenn. [0:01:46, 0:01:51]: Board member Glenn and Councilwoman Gantt are not in attendance. [0:01:52, 0:01:54]: Chair Shaw, you have a form. [0:01:54, 0:01:58]: What we're gonna uh [0:01:59, 0:02:19]: Thank you. We are officially calling this meeting to order at 10 38 AM. It is Tuesday, April 16th. Um, we would like a motion to actually go into executive session to discuss real estate. Attorney Wiley, your um your screen is showing. I'm not sure if you're aware of that. Is the public [0:02:18, 0:02:21]: Yeah, I am aware of that and um [0:02:22, 0:02:32]: I don't believe we need to go into executive session, Madam Chair. This is a matter that's already been put discussed. So we don't need to go into executive session. [0:02:32, 0:02:33]: Okay. [0:02:35, 0:02:37]: Uh if you would like some uh [0:02:37, 0:02:41]: ex make a motion to accept the agenda to approve the agenda, we can start. [0:02:42, 0:02:52]: Sure. We will make a I will make a a motion to approve uh this agenda. Do I have a second to that? Second, Terry Gleedon. [0:02:52, 0:02:55]: Thank you, Terry. All in favor? [0:02:57, 0:02:57]: Uh I [0:02:59, 0:03:04]: All right, we have full support to move forward. Um go ahead, um, attorney Wiley. [0:03:04, 0:03:24]: Thank you. Um, this will be a quick meeting um board members. Um, this is just a I I put up on the screen what I've sent to um the the broker for the purchaser, um Parth Patel, and we are amending seeking you all [0:03:24, 0:03:41]: Authorization to allow the chair to execute the document, the First Amendment to the purchase and sell agreement, which would extend the closing date to June 5th, 2024, subject to [0:03:42, 0:04:02]: The purchaser within three days of the of today depositing an additional$25,000, which the purchaser has agreed to. And that will be an extension earnest money deposit. There's also, this will also necessitate the uh amendment of [0:04:02, 0:04:22]: Section 6.2 of the agreement, which was the that portion of the original agreement was uh specified the inspection period and that the purchase sir was to give us notice that uh that the purchase that the property was either in an acceptable condition. [0:04:21, 0:04:28]: or not acceptable condition. And so by my conversations with the the um [0:04:28, 0:04:30]: The property, the purchaser. [0:04:31, 0:04:33]: I'm so sorry. Hold on. I'm so sorry. [0:04:35, 0:04:37]: Yes, that's what I'm just correct. [0:04:38, 0:04:39]: Yeah, okay. [0:04:40, 0:04:42]: Okay, yeah. [0:04:43, 0:04:55]: Yeah, mm-hmm. Yeah. A one apparently the building is doing something with this alarm. Uh my apologies. I don't know. [0:04:55, 0:05:15]: Well, I like what we have the credit card back. If we get a motion to approve this part of this uh first amendment, um as I was saying, section two dealt with the uh notice of acceptance of the condition of the property, my conversation with the uh with the purchaser. [0:05:15, 0:05:23]: Is that they accept the condition, the physical condition of the property. And so I amended that to just say that to say that fact. [0:05:23, 0:05:38]: And that will everything else will continue and be binding in the agreement. So if we could get a motion to authorize the chair to uh execute the first amendment first amended agreement. Um [0:05:38, 0:05:58]: And to the extent that there are any variations, minor variations that the purchaser may want to make to this proposed agreement to allow me the option, the opportunity to make those any type of uh non-substantive revisions that affect the substantive. [0:05:58, 0:05:59]: The terms. [0:06:00, 0:06:04]: Yep. I would appreciate it. Yeah. [0:06:05, 0:06:10]: Okay, I'd like to make a motion that we make those changes and authorize the chair to sign off on it. [0:06:12, 0:06:14]: Thank you. Um yeah. [0:06:15, 0:06:20]: Okay, who seconded that? Samantha. Okay, thank you, Samantha. All in favor? [0:06:22, 0:06:22]: Uh. [0:06:23, 0:06:24]: I [0:06:24, 0:06:25]: Uh [0:06:26, 0:06:27]: Okay. [0:06:27, 0:06:34]: Uh thank you. The motion passes. Do we have anything else? Um, attorney Wiley. No, ma'am. [0:06:34, 0:06:35]: All right. [0:06:35, 0:06:38]: This meeting is officially adjourned at [0:06:39, 0:06:41]: Ten forty three AM. [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: Thank you. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Thank you. [0:06:43, 0:06:45]: Thank you. Have a good day, everybody. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: All right. Have a good day, everyone.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2024-04-08 source: 2024-04-08_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:44, 0:00:49]: Miss Oliver, we're live? We are. Okay. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have six o'clock. [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: And I'd like to call [0:00:52, 0:00:56]: Our council meeting uh Monday, April eighth, to order. [0:00:57, 0:01:02]: And on that note, uh Mr or actually Mayor Pro Temberry, please, invocation. Stand if you can, ladies and gentlemen. [0:01:07, 0:01:27]: Let us pray. Eternal God, our Father, we thank you again this evening, Lord, for blessing us and blessing this council. Bless the city of Stockbridge. Lord God, govern us and order our steps. Lead us and direct us the way that you want us to go. Lord God, we pray over the citizens. We pray, Lord God, over the work and the intelligence that we come together, Lord God, in unison with today. Give us a spirit of [0:01:27, 0:01:44]: collaboration and peace. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. We pledge allegiance, we pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation, one God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: Roll call, Madam Clerk. [0:01:49, 0:02:01]: Good evening. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro T and Berry. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilmember Barber. Present. Councilmember Gantt. Present. Councilmember Thomas. [0:02:01, 0:02:21]: Mayor Ford, you have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Council, I want you to know that I received notice here that the public hearing item number four and number five will not be heard this evening. The applicant has requested actual defer date to a future date. They have not given us a date, but a deferred date, so later on. So that's in district two. [0:02:21, 0:02:36]: Uh so I just want you to know that. So I need a a motion to take this off the agenda, please. So moved. Okay, Ms. Gantt, is there a second? Second. Mr. Mr. Thomas, a second. All in favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Mr. Barron, Mayor Pro Tem, please. [0:02:36, 0:02:45]: Yes, uh Mayor, I'd like to also make a motion that we amend the agenda to add uh additional discussion item number seven for amphitheater marketing budget. [0:02:46, 0:03:00]: Okay. So there m is a second to that motion. Sir. Mr. second all in favor please indicate? Okay, and then on that note I need a motion to accept the overall agenda itself. Yes ma'am. I'd like to also make a motion. [0:03:00, 0:03:01]: To amend the agenda. [0:03:02, 0:03:03]: To discuss [0:03:03, 0:03:05]: The amphitheater parking. [0:03:05, 0:03:08]: Now that we have two additional parking areas. [0:03:08, 0:03:09]: We need to [0:03:09, 0:03:11]: Discuss the parking situation. [0:03:12, 0:03:13]: Okay. Is there a secondary motion? [0:03:15, 0:03:16]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:03:17, 0:03:20]: Mr. Berry, second that motion. All in favor, please indicate. [0:03:21, 0:03:29]: Okay, it's unanimous decision. All right, so that'll have to be number eight. Okay. [0:03:31, 0:03:36]: On that note, uh I still need a motion for the rest of the agenda, please. [0:03:37, 0:03:44]: Mayor Ford? Yes, ma'am. I move that we approve the agenda with the uh amendments that have been made. Thank you, Ms. Gantt. Is there a second? [0:03:45, 0:03:47]: I'm Mr. Berry Secondary, I'll free please indicate. [0:03:48, 0:03:51]: Okay, thank you very much. Let's see here. [0:03:53, 0:03:57]: Alrighty. On that note... [0:03:59, 0:04:02]: Okay, we now go on. [0:04:04, 0:04:17]: To approval the minutes. We have the uh approval of the minutes of March fourth, twenty twenty four, uh course council meeting minutes and also the March twenty sixth work session minutes. Any motion to accept those minutes, please. [0:04:19, 0:04:22]: So is there a second for Mr. Alzheimer's? Is there a second? [0:04:22, 0:04:25]: A second. Ms. Cant second. In all favor, please indicate. [0:04:26, 0:04:27]: Unanimous decision. Thank you very much. [0:04:28, 0:04:31]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? There are no public comments, Mayor. [0:04:32, 0:04:52]: Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Ladies and gentlemen, council, uh, we had a ceremonial review here. Uh once again, a also a great time in the city here when uh we swear in additional members who are uh committees and boards. So the uh the actual um youth council advisory committee had two new members this evening earlier. [0:04:51, 0:05:00]: Valerie Richmond Reese and Caitlin Nash. And Caitlin Nash is uh was actually uh youth council member several years or so ago. She's now [0:05:01, 0:05:06]: in college and a um Air Force reservist. So it's fantastic we have her join in that. [0:05:07, 0:05:07]: And [0:05:08, 0:05:28]: Well we have also we had several different uh uh proclamations. We had a child abuse proclamation was read uh today as well. Uh trial abuse prevention awareness month proclamation, a world water day proclamation, and a world autism awareness month proclamation, and all those were issued out to individuals uh [0:05:28, 0:05:45]: this evening as well. And on that note, uh we'll move on to consent agenda and uh have on consent agenda uh council consideration to fill a vacancy and appoint a member to a two-year term on the youth uh council advisory committee. [0:05:45, 0:05:53]: All right, excuse me. And also uh that that individual is uh Dr. Samuel Valmay. [0:05:53, 0:06:13]: And then also there's on the consent agenda the council consideration to fill a vacancy uh to appoint a member to fill the unspired term on the planning commission, which is district five. And uh that would be a Matthew Thomas. Sir. So moved. So moved. Okay, is there a second to the motion? [0:06:13, 0:06:18]: Um ms is that mister Mr. Thomas second that. All in favor, please indicate. Yes, ma'am. [0:06:22, 0:06:23]: It's not alright. [0:06:24, 0:06:26]: Baba okay. [0:06:26, 0:06:35]: Wait, did I miss something here? C and D. Oh, yes, C and D. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Excuse me. Excuse me so be it. So be it. Um [0:06:36, 0:06:38]: All right. [0:06:38, 0:06:54]: Well I tell you gotta turn the page for it. All right, so uh council consideration approved the renewal of the request for uh proposal RFP number twenty twenty-two-six, on-call general engineering services for the city of Stockbridge with Carter and SLU. [0:06:54, 0:07:06]: And also council consideration approved the renewal of the term contract 2019-00022 P facility maintenance solutions ground keepers landscape between [0:07:06, 0:07:26]: CGL facilities management LLC an amount of four hundred thousand dollars. Funding source is from the Public Works Department budget funds presented by Mr. Aaron. But I don't know if it's a consent agenda. I don't know if you need a briefing from Mr. Aaron or not, but is there a consent approval for this? I think we probably should discuss D. Discuss D. So how [0:07:26, 0:07:35]: How about we take that off the uh is there any other comments? Yes, I think we need to also have a presentation proceed. For which one? [0:07:36, 0:07:52]: Okay, so all right, so all right, how about this? There's a is there a motion to t a take off uh item C and D off the consent agenda? Yes. Okay, so a second, okay, from from Mr. I got uh Mr. Alexander and Miss Barber, all in favor please indicate. All right, so those items [0:07:52, 0:08:04]: So we'll in individual talk about those items. Now b back to A and B. If there's no problem with uh with A and B and I actually I think we already had a motion on it, did we not? Yes. Okay, so actually [0:08:04, 0:08:17]: I guess I wasn't supposed to take D and C and D off till we finished that motion for A and B. But anyway, so for A and B, we have a motion. Could you restate your motion, please, Mr. To approve consent agenda item A and B. Is is a second emotion. [0:08:18, 0:08:37]: Uh Miss Barber second, all favor please indicate. Well congratulations to uh to those two gentlemen, uh Dr. Val May and uh Mr. Thomas. Now on that note, uh do I need to uh attorneys, do I need to go back for C and D says there's already a motion on the on the floor to re- redo that just to make sure? [0:08:41, 0:08:53]: But what happened is that uh we took it took C and D off the agenda and I forgot that we actually had a motion and a second on the floor. So I'm just thinking about re redoing that to make sure it's clean, I suppose, in that aspect. [0:08:53, 0:09:01]: Yeah, as chair that's in your discretion. So if you want to go back and start all over again, you can. No, no, just the C and D, sir. Okay, let's do this. How about this? Yes, ma'am. [0:09:06, 0:09:22]: Yeah, but w what what I'm saying though is that there was always there was already a motion for A and B well actually there's a motion on the f on for initially A and B I th uh I f I thought originally. And then we went to the second motion with C and D and the motion A and B was not executed i initially. [0:09:24, 0:09:41]: Well it's up to you, sir. Well, here's what I'd like to do. I need I'd like to have a motion for uh item c on the consent agenda, item C and D to remove so we can talk about it individually. So moved. Is there a second? Miss Barber second. All in favor, please indicate. Okay. Now now I think it's cleaner. Got it. Okay. On that note, once again. [0:09:42, 0:09:54]: Council consideration to approve the renewal of a request for a proposal RFP number two zero two two-six on call general engineering services for the city of Stockbridge with Quater and Sloop. Mr. Aaron, please. [0:09:54, 0:10:14]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Carter and Sloop is one of the two consultant engineers the city has under contract. And uh last year in July, it was approved the contract with Carter and Sloop for one year with an option for four one-year renewals. Current currently, Carter and Sloop has 20%. [0:10:14, 0:10:24]: projects in various stages of development for the city. So we're coming back to ask the city to approve the initial renewal with Carter and Sloop. [0:10:24, 0:10:27]: Okay. Questions. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:10:27, 0:10:30]: Under this renewal option, is there an increase? [0:10:31, 0:10:35]: N no ma'am. The fees are the same and the costs are the same. [0:10:38, 0:10:39]: Any other questions from the council? [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: Is that all, Miss Barber? Do you see that? [0:10:44, 0:10:44]: That's all you had? [0:10:46, 0:10:55]: Okay. So if no other questions then I I need a motion to approve that item, please. So moved. Okay, Mr uh Mr. Alzheimer's and Mr. Barber, you second that all in favor please indicate? [0:10:57, 0:11:05]: Damage decision on that. Okay, great. Council consideration and approve the renewal of the term contract twenty zero. [0:11:05, 0:11:08]: Excuse me, two zero one nine dash zero zero zero [0:11:08, 0:11:25]: 2-2P facilities maintenance solutions ground keepers landscape between uh CGL facilities maintenance management LLC in the amount of four hundred thousand dollars funding source from the is from the public works department budget items represented by Mr. Aaron please [0:11:25, 0:11:45]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Uh several years ago, council requested that certain major thoroughfares be mold and maintained on a weekly basis. So the city contracted with CGL through the state contract to perform those services for us. Over the years, we've added some roads and also we budgeted this year because [0:11:45, 0:12:05]: You know, we recently annexed those areas, so we want to incorporate those into the more in schedule as well. So we're just renewing that agreement with CGL and the uh request to be able to use the budgeted amounts for uh right-of-way maintenance. Okay, questions? Ms. Halzangwe, please. Let me just say this. [0:12:04, 0:12:24]: The reason that I took that off the consent agenda is because I wanted to thank you. I wanted it to be your positive highlight out in the community for the awesome job that the city has done with these contractors maintaining the right-of-ways. For years now, it seemed like spring would just spring on us. [0:12:24, 0:12:44]: Then grass will be growing everywhere, the thoroughfares will be out of control. But since we've implemented this program under you, along with uh the city staff, it has been we've our road projects are exemplary. I like to call them our front doors, because when people get off of these exits, 228 [0:12:44, 0:13:04]: 224, 222, they see stock breeze. They don't know who it was, what's going on. And we have come such a long way because when we get off there, certainly at the exit itself, the thoroughfares are clean. Certainly at some point we want to see probably if we could partner with the county to get on the actual exit. [0:13:04, 0:13:24]: Exit ramps because GDOT does 45 day maintenance, which is 45 day maintenance is just not nearly enough on the actual exit ramps themselves. So maybe that that's gonna acquire a bigger figure with us and the county uh working together. But I have seen the difference and I certainly appreciate it. So I [0:13:24, 0:13:44]: I wanted to thank you. I do want you to talk about just a little bit uh some of the annex areas that were added because some of those residents didn't or they're they're not seeing, they don't understand the benefits that they're getting out of being city residents, but understanding that their right-of-ways are being maintained where uh in uh in a [0:13:44, 0:13:55]: upgraded fashion versus before. So talk about some of the areas that we do currently do uh regularly and then some of the areas we're we're adding adding to that. [0:13:56, 0:14:16]: Well, I'll let Mr. Barnes speak to that. Mr. Barnes is our public works operations manager. He and his staff have done a wonderful job in taking the bull by the horn, so to speak, with the areas that we recently annexed to ensure that they get the same love and care that the city of Stockbridge residents prior to the annexation received. So I'll [0:14:16, 0:14:17]: Let him speak to that. [0:14:19, 0:14:21]: Good evening. Good evening, Mayor Council. [0:14:22, 0:14:36]: Uh my name is Al Barnes. I'm Public Works Operational Manager for the grounds maintenance as well as facility maintenance. Just to talk a little bit about that, annexation is [0:14:36, 0:14:50]: Uh right now we're tryna currently getting more staff in to kinda help with that. For the most part, we are maintaining the areas that we've been doing before and then also the new areas coming in. [0:14:50, 0:15:10]: We pretty much got it on schedule in different districts that we would do out throughout the week. So everybody's pretty much is getting hit around once a week. Um as we get more staff in and we're working on that greatly, we'll be able to have two crews going out there and hopefully get back to where we were cutting. [0:15:11, 0:15:27]: maybe twice a week for most areas. So um all I will say is just be patient with us. We're trying, we're out here and everything like that. But I think that the citizens that's being annexed in would definitely like and appreciate what we're doing moving forward. So [0:15:28, 0:15:48]: Absolutely. So thank you so much. And whatever you need from me personally, myself, uh, we want to do that because I want that to be the pride of the city that we shine when it comes to uh those particular areas. But again, I wanted to take this off the consent agenda to thank you for the work that's being done because it's beautiful out there to be able [0:15:48, 0:16:00]: able to see how the city looks. And uh in addition to that, I know the city crew takes care of this is gonna be taking care of this area out here in s in in the city hall area, correct? Mr. Aaron, sir. [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We will be. [0:16:03, 0:16:23]: Okay, so I I I see the amazing work that you've done out here that been done by the contractors as we finish up. I just want to make sure that we're going to make sure that we maintain this at the level that they're installing it at along East Atlanta, along Lee Street, South Lee Street, North Lee Street, that in [0:16:23, 0:16:43]: entire area that's incorporated and included into the overall plan because this is absolutely beautiful the work that the team, the council, and we all have put together. And we just want to make sure, and I think what we said generally is that we wanted to make sure that it maintains that way. And I think I give a shout out [0:16:43, 0:17:03]: out to our friends in McDonough for what they do with the square. We wanted that square standard administer, and I think we're we're seeing that. And we want to make sure we do that. So do you have what you need to be able to do these areas out here along with the main thoroughfares? So one of the things Mr. Barnes and his staff have already addressed those [0:17:03, 0:17:12]: and also develop the schedule or how we'll maintain those recently planted areas. So I think you'll see it continue to look the way it's looking right now. [0:17:12, 0:17:17]: All right. Well I appreciate that. Is there any other questions on [0:17:18, 0:17:20]: Ms. Bobber, go ahead, please. [0:17:20, 0:17:22]: I wanted to know this street [0:17:22, 0:17:23]: Sweeting. [0:17:24, 0:17:28]: Is that included under this contract or is that completely similar? That's completely different. Thank you, sir. [0:17:29, 0:17:30]: So [0:17:30, 0:17:50]: So we uh and this one thank you for asking that question. We do have two full time we have two full time street sweepers out there, correct? Yes we do. Okay, because we purchased those and certainly uh maybe we can add a third one in this next fly's coming up or something, but certainly they're out there and I know I saw a question come across the email somebody was asking when the [0:17:50, 0:18:05]: the sweeper was in their neighborhood and you was able to identify that the street sweeper was in their neighborhood. Yes, if everything goes according to plan, we didn't have no equipment malfunctions and weather, every street gets swept at least once a quarter. [0:18:05, 0:18:16]: But like downtown they do downtown weekly and major thoroughfares get a weekly, but the subdivisions and residential streets at least four times a year. The one the only one thing I'm gonna say real quick. [0:18:17, 0:18:21]: Is those little areas right where you get off at the interstate? [0:18:21, 0:18:41]: where the where the where you have like the separated turn lane, around that little thing right there where you get off. I like to see the street sweeper go around there because there's a lot of garbage and trash that col right at the right at the exit where you have like a little horseshoe, you have the straight turn here, and then you have the piece and then there's a concrete [0:18:41, 0:18:49]: s border that separates it on the ground. There's always a lot of trash that corporates around there. We'll get that addressed. Thank you. [0:18:49, 0:19:09]: Mayor for stand by sir. Ms. Scamp Glauc please. Mayor, I move that we approve um this council consideration. I move move that we uh approve the renewal of the term contract number 2019-00022P, facility maintenance solutions, grounds keeper landscaping between GCL facilities management. [0:19:09, 0:19:14]: LLC and the amount of four hundred thousand dollars. [0:19:15, 0:19:22]: Mr. Ma motion was made and seconded by Mr. Readiness. I one second, I'm gonna I'm gonna grab uh seconded by Mr. Alexander. Further discussion. Wait, please, sir. [0:19:23, 0:19:41]: Are you recognizing me now? Yeah, I'm recognizing you. Thank you. Uh I had a couple of questions I asked I wanted to ask before the motion, but um and I'll just make it simple. Um Mr. Barnes, can you provide me with a schedule for the uh street sweeper and the uh letter pickup? [0:19:41, 0:19:42]: Well it's [0:19:43, 0:19:56]: Street sweeping comes out of stormwater. So I will get you a a copy of of the streets and the s and the streets, but the schedule is they're on like a weekly and I can get that to you. [0:19:58, 0:20:01]: Well i i is there a printed schedule? [0:20:02, 0:20:16]: There's a printed spreadsheet with all the streets on there and everything is separated based on like routes. There's Route One, there's Route Two, Three, Major Thoroughfares, and I think Route Four and Five. [0:20:16, 0:20:24]: Well, if I if I can just get the schedule uh just just plain and simple. If I can just get the schedule of the street sweeper and the letter pickup, I would appreciate it. [0:20:25, 0:20:39]: So Mr. Barnes hands handles the litter pickup, but the it might vary per week depending on which areas need staff to concentrate in certain areas, but we'll get that to you as well. [0:20:39, 0:20:42]: And and and and the reason I asked and [0:20:43, 0:21:03]: I don't want to get too deep into this. Um, but there's a campaign sign that's been on the ground since November. And uh it hadn't been moved. But I digress. Um I had some additional comments and questions, but um just provide that for me and I'll be [0:21:03, 0:21:07]: Okay. And we'll we'll talk offline, uh, Mr. Aaron. Yes. [0:21:09, 0:21:29]: Any other comments? Motion been made in the second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. You're in favor? Okay, so it's unanimous decision. All right, thank you very much. All right, then now we go to um uh where are we for items four and five. Public hearing have been deferred to a later time frame by the applicant. [0:21:28, 0:21:48]: So we'll go number six. And uh Council's uh consideration to approve change order number two for 2024 LMIG paving project and east coast grading to include the resurfacing of Old Conyers Road from East Alana Road to Mays Road, which is in city limits, amount of [0:21:48, 0:22:06]: four hundred fifty one thousand seven hundred and ninety six dollars and fifty cents. Funding source G dot supplemental ElMIG funds of three uh three hundred seventy three thousand six hundred ninety eight dollars and twenty cents. Splots five which is seventy eight thousand and ninety eight dollars and thirty cents. Mr. Aaron please [0:22:06, 0:22:26]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Uh Governor Kemp in his uh budget allocated additional funding for transportation projects and resurfacing projects. And the city was awarded their$373,698.20. So staff sat down and had a discussion. We looked at areas where we could make the most [0:22:26, 0:22:46]: immediate impact. And one of the areas where we constantly outside of Flippin' Road and Walt Stevens and Mount Zion, that and and Valley Hill to an extent we get a lot of complaints. It was old Conyers. You know, we've got almost 3,000 school kids that go to that go to schools on that street and also they got a travel [0:22:46, 0:23:06]: traverse that street parents and everything like that. So when we sat down and looked at that road and based on the number of complaints we received, we thought it would have been a great idea to go ahead and resurface that road because there are plans to resurface Ballet Hill. That's in the 2025 LME. There's plans to repair Rock Quarry. [0:23:06, 0:23:09]: with the widening project, there's plans to resurface [0:23:09, 0:23:16]: Hudson Bridge, Eagles Landing Parkway and East Lake with a joint T-SPLOST project with Henry County. [0:23:16, 0:23:35]: So based on the amount of traffic on Old Canyon's Road and the number of students going to school on Old Canyons Road, we just thought it would be uh prudent to go ahead and resurface that road because we're constantly getting complaints about it. We've addressed every road. We're gonna come back to talk about how we address flippin' road, but I thought this was something that we could do. [0:23:36, 0:23:39]: With additional funding, it would cost us a minimum amount of money. [0:23:39, 0:23:48]: To do the project and I just think it would be beneficial for those students that travel, old conjunctions and parents to go to school on a daily basis. [0:23:48, 0:24:06]: And that's why we chose the road based on the complaints. And someone asked was the road rated. The major roads were never rated. They were maintained by Henry County, so the city did not rate those roads. And so but based on the number of complaints, just like when we got a bunch of complaints from Mount Zion and [0:24:06, 0:24:14]: Walt Stevens about potholes, we took action and we remedied those. And this is another opportunity to correct the issue that we currently have. [0:24:16, 0:24:36]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, Mr. Berry. Thank you again for uh pointing pointing. But you do know I wanna uh pose a question about flipping road and the priority moving forward for it. Um I know we get a lot of complaints on old coins, but we equally get the same number of complaints for flipping as well. And it spans across three of [0:24:36, 0:24:48]: Of our districts two, um, three as well as four. And so um what is the outlook or the prospect of flipping road being improved? [0:24:48, 0:25:08]: So here's the issue when when looking at flippin' road. Flippin' road is gonna be a major undertaking. It's gonna be expensive on the magnitude of what we spent well uh Walt Stevens, which was about one point five million dollars. And so we knew with old Conyers we had got a quote from what what it would cost, and that's something we can [0:25:08, 0:25:16]: Can do right now because we have the funding for that. We only put have to put in a minimum amount of money, but to do flip and roll, it's gonna [0:25:17, 0:25:37]: It's gonna take some looking into finances, looking in the budget as to how we go about attacking it. Because if you spend$300,000 on flipping road, it's not gonna resolve the problem. You can fix a couple of potholes, but the overall road is still gonna be substandard condition. So we just felt that this would be something we can do. [0:25:37, 0:25:47]: immediately with minimal financial input from the city and it it would be a great benefit to the community. While we look at ways or how we fund [0:25:48, 0:25:49]: Flip and roll. [0:25:51, 0:25:51]: Okay. [0:25:51, 0:26:00]: Stand by one second, please. You done, sir. Just a quick question before I go to Mr. Alexander. I I drive the road all the time. I should know this answer. I would say it's about three miles. [0:26:00, 0:26:01]: Free mind as long. [0:26:02, 0:26:13]: Oh, Conyers? No, no, no. Flipping. Flipping. Yes. A little over two miles. Oh, a little over two miles. Yes. Yes. Well, we are responsible. All right. Mr. Alzheimer's, go ahead, please. [0:26:14, 0:26:27]: My contention has always been the same, whether it's O Conjures, whether it's Eagles Landing, whether it and and we did as we talked about the Eagles Landing repaving, we talked about these roads were [0:26:28, 0:26:34]: mostly, if not in maintained by the county, and they were turned over to us in substandard condition. [0:26:35, 0:26:38]: The city manager sat up there and said on Eagles Landing. [0:26:39, 0:26:59]: We're going back to the county to see what they would do to help us out. We should just not let them off of the hook for giving us these substandard roads and then we take the money the limited funds that we have to pave these roads. I'm certainly in favor of solving the issue with old conjures, flipping all these roads, but [0:26:59, 0:27:06]: But certainly, as the city manager indicated, we should seek that additional funding from the county. We should not have to. [0:27:07, 0:27:27]: taking two million dollars of city funding to pave Walt Stevens. We did it because it was absolutely necessary. But each time we do that, we allow the county off the hook because they took years, decades, letting the roads, getting those substandard conditions, and then we let we got them off the hook. [0:27:27, 0:27:45]: by using the funds that we got coming in. So when the it has that conversation already taken place about Eagles Landing? Cause at the last meeting the Seagull City Manager said you were going to go to them. So what is their pz posture or position in offering to help us with the roads that they turned over to us? [0:27:46, 0:28:06]: Well, the the only road I know that they allocated some funding for was Valley Hill. We had a meeting with them. We thought they'd give but contribute two hundred and twenty thousand, but it turned out they contributed a hundred and ten thousand. And I think at the last meeting we presented an intergovernmental agreement where they were applying for ARC funding. [0:28:06, 0:28:15]: for the resurfacing of uh Eagles Land and Parkway, Hudson Bridge and East Lake that they partner with the city on that project. [0:28:16, 0:28:36]: Right. So when you asked him about Eagles Landing, which I think the city manager said indicated that's what we were gonna do before we move forward with, what was the response? So I I don't know what the city manager's conversation has been with his counterpart, but the thing I do know is based on emails I've seen that Henry [0:28:36, 0:28:50]: Henry County said it'll cost$10 million to resurface Eagles Land and Hudson Bridge and East Lake. Forty percent of that is in the city, 60% is in the county. So 40% of 10 million, they would be expecting the city to contribute 4 million. [0:28:50, 0:29:01]: So they've applied for a grant and the city's portion of that grant would be twenty percent, which is eight hundred thousand. The city has allocated four hundred and thirty something thousand in T supplies. [0:29:02, 0:29:05]: for the resurfacing of these roles. So my [0:29:05, 0:29:08]: Hope is that ARC funds this [0:29:09, 0:29:12]: project because there's a big difference between [0:29:13, 0:29:21]: Paying$800,000 when you've allocated$400,000 for it, and$4 million when you'd have to come up with an additional$3.6 million. So [0:29:21, 0:29:27]: I think one of the things with that project we wait to see how the funding goes'cause if not [0:29:27, 0:29:31]: then I'm pretty sure they're gonna come asking us for our forty percent of that. [0:29:31, 0:29:41]: Yeah, and and and that's the disappointing answer that we continue to get. And I tell people this, especially during the time when folks ask for your vote. [0:29:41, 0:29:45]: Із-аю нетюста Сити резиден. [0:29:45, 0:29:48]: You vote for county commissioner too. [0:29:48, 0:30:08]: Not just the unincorporated residents. So the the outdated process of thinking, well, I'm the county commissioner and I only need to take care of the unincorporated, when they come to city residents, they don't say, Well, that you're just in the city or I don't want your vote. They ask for the city residents' vote. And and [0:30:08, 0:30:28]: And folks need to understand that and very clearly. And it is unfortunate that on Valley Hill Road, they only wanted to give$110,000 of money that when the they allowed the road to get in that condition. Old Conyers, they're telling us basically for old Conyers, we just annexed how much did we just [0:30:28, 0:30:30]: Just annex the old Kanye's into the city. [0:30:30, 0:30:32]: Uh, probably [0:30:32, 0:30:40]: Two tenths of a mile. So we already had a certain extent. But I wanna make very clear to everybody listening and paying attention. [0:30:41, 0:30:49]: When you get to the schools, you leave the city limits, right? The the city limits goes right up to the first school. To Mays Row. Right. [0:30:50, 0:31:10]: After that, all three of the schools are in the county. So if people are looking at this thinking all of Old Conders is going to be paved, that would be wrong, wouldn't it? Because only portion that's going to be paved is from East Atlanta to Mays Road. The rest of it will still remain in the same condition under the county. [0:31:09, 0:31:29]: So I suggested that you would go to the county like they did for us on Patrick Henry to see whether or not they wanted to partner it so that we could pave all of it instead of just this little section and then the rest of it remain not. Well I had a conversation with my counterpart and they say they have no intentions or no current [0:31:29, 0:31:30]: Right. [0:31:31, 0:31:36]: uh efforts to resurface a part of all Conyers that's in the county, so [0:31:37, 0:31:43]: So so but so again, so everybody understand the majority of old Kanyas is not in the city, is it? No, sir. [0:31:43, 0:32:03]: So, under understanding that we're gonna do what's necessary to take care of our portion. But then people will look back and say, wait a minute, why y'all just portion uh pave this little small part when the rest of it is like that? So we talk about this the safety and the schools. We're taking care of our part to make sure that these students get to school. But the other part needs [0:32:03, 0:32:05]: [1926.1, 1933.9]: Yes. Thank you. So for clarification though, I'm thinking if that's the case, that that rest most of uh old county is in district two. [0:32:15, 0:32:18]: Is that district two, which is the same district that has most of [0:32:19, 0:32:29]: Uh parts of uh of Stockbridge. If that's district two, then we need to talk to that district two commissioner. Correct. All right. Miss Scan, go ahead please. [0:32:29, 0:32:37]: Um Councilman Alexander made some really good points. And I one of my questions is if we repay that portion. [0:32:38, 0:32:40]: What happens if the county [0:32:40, 0:32:48]: w again you spoke to him they had right now they currently have no desire to repave their the other areas on that road. [0:32:49, 0:33:09]: When they do decide to repave, will that affect the paving in the area that we're in? Or will it be okay? No, it would be similar to what Clayton County did when they paid the portion of Mount Zion Parkway that was in Clayton County. They paid it three or four years ago and we just picked up from where they left off and paid the portion that was in the city. So [0:33:09, 0:33:29]: So I just think that we're doing our part. We're addressing a concern from parents and from the Henry County School System, and we're doing our part. And what they do doesn't have a bearing on us because we're taking care of the issues that are within the city limits of Stockbridge. Well, I and I appreciate that, but Stockbridge is [0:33:28, 0:33:30]: Henry County. [0:33:31, 0:33:45]: I'm gonna say it again, Stockbridges in Henry County. And I think that at some point we as leaders need to reach out to the county one on one or with with the other county commissioners or whatever we need to do. [0:33:45, 0:33:47]: Because stop bridges in the county. [0:33:47, 0:33:50]: So we're supposed to be one Henry. [0:33:50, 0:33:54]: Um we have to vote for county commissioners. [0:33:54, 0:33:56]: They represent us too. [0:33:56, 0:33:59]: We pay our taxes to the county. [0:34:00, 0:34:02]: We just started collecting taxes. [0:34:02, 0:34:04]: So they represent us too. [0:34:04, 0:34:15]: And we need to start working. We're not gonna grow and get better until we're all working together. At some point, history shows years ago. [0:34:16, 0:34:32]: The tax commission office here on Burke Street, the library, the police department, they were built by the cities, city of Stockbridge, and they they're owned by the city of Stockbridge, but they're ran by the county. So somebody was working together at some point. [0:34:32, 0:34:52]: But right now that there's a disconnect and that message has to keep going out there. And I keep saying we have to go out there and talk, you know, whether it's one on one or we have some kind of joint meeting. But there has been times and and there's a it's a known fact, just because it's in the city limits doesn't mean [0:34:52, 0:35:01]: That it always has to be the city's responsibility. There have been agreements, as previous SDS agreements, where although [0:35:02, 0:35:07]: Monarch Village was in the city. The county was still responsible for the entire street. [0:35:08, 0:35:09]: There are [0:35:09, 0:35:17]: Uh the there there is no set stone says, well, you're the county commissioner and you have to only do unincorporated areas. [0:35:17, 0:35:18]: That's [0:35:19, 0:35:21]: You re then we shouldn't have to vote for you. [0:35:23, 0:35:24]: So [0:35:24, 0:35:27]: We need to work together as a council. [0:35:29, 0:35:37]: With the county commissioners, one-on-one. I don't evidently it's not working. City manager to county manager, it's not working. So we're gonna have to do it ourselves. [0:35:38, 0:35:41]: And I'm willing to do that. I hope my colleagues are as well. [0:35:43, 0:35:43]: Okay. [0:35:44, 0:35:45]: Any other comments from the council? [0:35:45, 0:35:48]: Oh sorry, Miss Barber did Ms. Barber have your hand up? [0:35:49, 0:35:50]: I did, thank you. [0:35:50, 0:35:51]: You're welcome. [0:35:52, 0:35:58]: O'Conyers Road is in my my district. City Council District Four. Okay. A portion of it. [0:35:58, 0:36:00]: the portion that is within the city limits. [0:36:02, 0:36:04]: We are to address the needs of the residents. [0:36:05, 0:36:05]: I know. [0:36:06, 0:36:09]: А good portion of the residents who live in the area. [0:36:09, 0:36:10]: are newly annexed. [0:36:11, 0:36:13]: Most of the newly annexed people. [0:36:13, 0:36:14]: Or in my district. [0:36:15, 0:36:15]: You all know that. [0:36:16, 0:36:19]: I want us to stick with the item as it is on the agenda. [0:36:19, 0:36:21]: By addressing the knees [0:36:22, 0:36:23]: To fund this project. [0:36:23, 0:36:25]: For old Connors Road. [0:36:25, 0:36:28]: the portion that is within the city limits. [0:36:29, 0:36:30]: Myself [0:36:30, 0:36:31]: Mr Aaron [0:36:32, 0:36:35]: And Mr Gardner did have conversations. [0:36:35, 0:36:37]: With the county manager. [0:36:37, 0:36:39]: County Chair and [0:36:39, 0:36:41]: B county kommisner over. [0:36:42, 0:36:44]: That area. Valley Hill. [0:36:44, 0:36:49]: and East Atlanta and Old Conyers. At that time we only addressed Valley Hill Road. [0:36:50, 0:36:53]: What I don't want to do is lose sight of. [0:36:54, 0:36:56]: What's important and what we can do right now. [0:36:57, 0:36:58]: For ourselves. [0:36:58, 0:36:59]: Absolutely. [0:36:59, 0:37:02]: I believe the county does have a responsibility. [0:37:02, 0:37:06]: and partnering with us on these projects, but I don't want to wait for them. [0:37:08, 0:37:09]: I don't want to wait for'em. [0:37:09, 0:37:16]: Let's go ahead and move forward with what we can take care of right now. I certainly support staff's recommendation. [0:37:17, 0:37:20]: to use these funds to resurface. [0:37:21, 0:37:24]: The portion of Old Canyons Road that is within the city limits. [0:37:24, 0:37:26]: I'd like to make a motion if I could, sir. Sure. [0:37:28, 0:37:34]: I'd motion to move forward with staff's recommendation to approve the change order number two for the twenty twenty-four. [0:37:34, 0:37:35]: El nick [0:37:35, 0:37:37]: Paving project with East Coast Grading. [0:37:38, 0:37:41]: To include the resurfacing of Old Cony's Road. [0:37:41, 0:37:42]: From East Atlanta Road. [0:37:42, 0:37:43]: To Mays Road. [0:37:44, 0:37:48]: within the city limits in the amount of four hundred fifty one thousand [0:37:48, 0:37:51]: Seven hundred ninety-six dollars and fifty cents. [0:37:51, 0:37:52]: The funding source. [0:37:52, 0:37:53]: Gee that [0:37:54, 0:37:56]: Supplemental L MIC funds. [0:37:56, 0:37:57]: I second. [0:37:58, 0:38:18]: Yes, Ms. Second Motion, maybe a second motion. Yeah, I'll have additional discussion. Yeah, go ahead, sir. I certainly agree and want to make sure that we do what's necessary to take care of our portion. But I do want an answer on what are we gonna do about flipping rope. I certainly don't want to just say, okay, we just discussed it. [0:38:18, 0:38:37]: then nothing is going to happen. So I would ask that you go back to point of order. What's the point of order? If we want to discuss flipping road, let's add that item to the agenda. I'm going to ask the question if I can and then we're going to move on if that's okay. I just want them to go back and look for the funding uh in other areas and then come back to us. [0:38:37, 0:38:38]: Yes, sir. [0:38:38, 0:38:58]: Any other questions? Okay. No other questions? All in favor of the motion, please indicate? Unanimous decision. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Okay, what we have next is item number seven, amphitheater uh marketing budget. Um, Mr. Aaron, you've got to come back, sir. All right. So uh I want to caution the council in reference to this discussion, this particular item. Uh we can't get too deep in this because it may cause. [0:38:58, 0:39:18]: I think we'll probably have to have a executive session to talk about how we want to do this, but I just want to bring that to you and note at this point. And if that's the case, we will go into executive session and talk about this further if we have to do so and then come back out and make a decision. Okay? Okay. So on that note, uh we talked about uh some additional funding for [0:39:18, 0:39:36]: budget uh uh marketing budget and where that funding would come from from in this aspect, right? So uh on that note, um Mr. Young here. I would think that uh this is something uh that Mr. uh okay you I'm sorry uh Mr. Washington will come forward in sir. [0:39:38, 0:39:58]: Good evening council and mayor and council. We've talked with um finance and with economic development and they're prepared to have that discussion with you all in an executive session because it does concern real estate. Okay. All right then. So uh if you don't mind counsel, we'll go into executive session n not n right now, but we'll go into executive session and talk about this and come back out and make a decision, come back out and announce that decision if that's [0:39:58, 0:40:02]: Um Mayor Ford. [0:40:03, 0:40:07]: Mr Washington, what part of this is real estate? [0:40:08, 0:40:16]: The what the the sale of the property and then the earmarking of the funds from the sale of the property has not been constipated yet. [0:40:20, 0:40:27]: All right. Okay. So that's that's what causes us to go into Zag and talk about this further before we go public with all this. Okay? [0:40:27, 0:40:42]: All right. On that note we'll we'll we'll talk about the next that's second session on that issue. We'll come back out. Number item number eight, the next item deals with the uh parking free parking and amphitheater. And Miss Barber you brought this issue up, so what is your concern about the free parking and amphitheater? [0:40:42, 0:40:44]: I did. Um [0:40:44, 0:40:48]: And I don't know if staff is prepared. Um we uh [0:40:49, 0:40:55]: the map of the parking areas around the amphitheater. [0:40:56, 0:41:03]: Mr Mr Aaron or or Al, I don't know. Would y'all be interested you y'all be able to take ha town of these questions here? [0:41:05, 0:41:06]: I don't think so. [0:41:10, 0:41:13]: So you're referencing the two parking lots on North Lee Street? [0:41:14, 0:41:18]: I want to discuss all of the areas for the amphitheatre. [0:41:19, 0:41:26]: The area um directly across from City Hall, the areas for the two new parking [0:41:28, 0:41:31]: The areas on ground of the amphitheater parking. [0:41:32, 0:41:37]: The council needs to decide how we want to proceed with parking, whether it be [0:41:37, 0:41:39]: Free parking, paid parking. [0:41:39, 0:41:41]: And if so, then we need to set a fee. [0:41:42, 0:41:44]: I just want us to be able to [0:41:44, 0:41:45]: Designate. [0:41:46, 0:41:47]: Those areas [0:41:47, 0:41:48]: For concert goers. [0:41:49, 0:41:50]: So that they know. [0:41:51, 0:41:52]: Which areas are for free parking? [0:41:53, 0:41:54]: In which areas? [0:41:54, 0:41:55]: Are for paid parking. [0:41:56, 0:41:57]: And how much? [0:41:57, 0:41:58]: That's all. [0:41:59, 0:42:06]: It's my understanding last year, I think for the first time the city charged for on-site parking in the main amphitheater parking lots. [0:42:06, 0:42:14]: And so now you've incorporated the two parking lots on North Lee Street. So are you gonna include those in the [0:42:14, 0:42:33]: in the areas where you're charged, so there's a package for those parking spaces, as well as the ones that are surrounding the amphitheater. I know across from City Hall, we've done the beautification. Now you have the curb there. So it would be difficult or somebody's gonna drive through the recently [0:42:33, 0:42:34]: Planet. [0:42:34, 0:42:50]: um flowers and things over there that if the city is still gonna allow free parking over there in that area, then there'll have to be signs directing patrons how to get to those areas and where they can park. Somebody'd have to kind of direct them over there. [0:42:51, 0:42:52]: Mayor. [0:42:52, 0:42:52]: Yes, ma'am. [0:42:53, 0:43:13]: Um, Councilwoman Barber, you you have some really great points. I think that Mr. Young should be present for this and I also think we probably want to discuss a little get a little bit more financial detail on it before we make any decisions. Um I I totally understand where you're coming from. I just think that [0:43:13, 0:43:16]: We probably won't get the proper information tonight. [0:43:17, 0:43:18]: Okay. [0:43:18, 0:43:25]: Um that's perfectly fine. I just wanted us to have a discussion right regarding it so that there is no confusion. [0:43:25, 0:43:27]: For concert goers. [0:43:27, 0:43:28]: When they park. [0:43:28, 0:43:33]: They should know whether or not they are parking in a designated area that's free parking. [0:43:34, 0:43:36]: Or if it's an area that they have to pay. [0:43:37, 0:43:40]: And what the fee is, so if we want to [0:43:41, 0:43:44]: Um wait until the next meeting and have staff to bring us back. [0:43:45, 0:43:49]: Um there are suggestions on how we should move forward with all of the areas. [0:43:50, 0:44:07]: I'm perfectly fine with that. Yeah, and I and I I think one of your to your point, um from my experience and complaints I've had as well, a lot of that was in private parking. Um and people someone who didn't own the property was actually charging. [0:44:08, 0:44:09]: So it wasn't [0:44:10, 0:44:14]: It wasn't necessarily in our lot, it was private parking. [0:44:14, 0:44:17]: And the eventually police were called. [0:44:17, 0:44:22]: at after so many months of time. But it was at a bu it was in particular buildings. [0:44:22, 0:44:24]: And um [0:44:25, 0:44:30]: a cu a a nonprofit or some sort was was charging, but they didn't own the property. [0:44:30, 0:44:38]: And it wasn't our property either. And I've I I too have received some of those concerns, and we do need those des I totally agree with you. [0:44:38, 0:44:43]: But I I just think Mr. Young and everyone needs to be here. So I thank you for that. [0:44:43, 0:44:53]: And thank you. Thank you for making that point about the nonprofit. But there are also business owners. The downtown area is in City Council District Four. [0:44:53, 0:44:54]: My district. [0:44:55, 0:44:59]: So I get a lot of the complaints, a lot of the complaints from the business owners. [0:45:00, 0:45:02]: They are concerned about [0:45:03, 0:45:04]: Concert glores. [0:45:04, 0:45:07]: parking in their lots. [0:45:07, 0:45:10]: when they've had their lots blocked off. [0:45:11, 0:45:12]: And having [0:45:12, 0:45:13]: Parking attendance. [0:45:14, 0:45:15]: Charging people. [0:45:16, 0:45:18]: То паркін паркінг лот. [0:45:18, 0:45:20]: In which the parking attendants [0:45:21, 0:45:25]: don't own the building either. Essentially they're s collecting money. [0:45:26, 0:45:30]: Kinda illegal. Improper at the most. No illegal. [0:45:30, 0:45:50]: And set up a parking lot in a a business parking lot that you don't own. Correct. But it wasn't the city. It was a private I'm trying to tell you, it was some private people doing it. I know all of the details uh surrounding one particular incident. But I'm also talking about the area directly across from City. [0:45:50, 0:45:59]: City Hall. Um that area was for for free free parking, but people were being charged to pay. [0:46:00, 0:46:01]: Charge to park there. [0:46:02, 0:46:05]: We just need to be clear and specific. [0:46:05, 0:46:17]: Designate the areas in which we want to say is for free parking and which areas is for paid parking. And if it's paid parking, we need to set the fee. [0:46:17, 0:46:19]: So that there is no confusion. [0:46:19, 0:46:24]: Absolutely. I got a lot of calls from people who parked directly across the street from City Hall. [0:46:25, 0:46:45]: And they were charged to park there. That was true. All right. In fact, it was supposed to be free. Let me have a comment here, sir. Yeah, go ahead, please. Certainly that's inappropriate for anybody to be charging uh to be parking on the free on the city hall lawn across there. Of course, I don't think anybody should be parking over there, especially with the beautiful [0:46:44, 0:47:04]: And the curbing that we have at this point. Certainly, as was indicated by Mr. Aaron, there would need to be some directional signage to teach them how to get there through Harold Drive or Martin Luther King Sr., because you cannot get there from this side. But let's be clear: any if a private business owner [0:47:04, 0:47:24]: On it that does own the business size to charge, they can do that. We cannot regulate them in terms of what they can do on their own private property. So if a business owner that owned property in downtown, not inappropriately, not people setting up illegal shops, that certainly should not be tolerated by the city. [0:47:24, 0:47:44]: And NA aspect. But if you own land downtown and you wanted to set up a parking lot under the city code, you can on your property that you own, you can do that. But it needs to be done by the property owner, not someone stepping in to charge, and certainly not on grounds only. [0:47:44, 0:48:04]: By the city under any aspects. I would suggest that we get um uh input as was stated from Mr. Young and um as well as uh the city manager uh at our next meeting in order to do this because those two parking lots on North Lee Street, those uh [0:48:04, 0:48:24]: uh certainly should be uh premium parking and that would be up to them to determine what needs to be done. It was my hope that those two parking lots would alleviate the need to park uh over here uh across the street and certainly there might be some contention to allow them to use those two parking lots. [0:48:24, 0:48:36]: parking lots on North Lee Street for free to replace the parking that would be reduced over here. Because we certainly don't want people driving across the curb over the new beautification that we just planted. [0:48:36, 0:48:52]: On that note there the the parking spots on North Lee Street a total number is ninety one. Ninety one total spots. Announcements and upcoming meeting events. So upcoming meeting announcements, council uh council meetings will be held. And city council chamber meeting dates look. Yes, ma'am. [0:48:53, 0:48:58]: So I think we need to make a motion to have staff with [0:48:59, 0:49:03]: Doing their due diligence and bringing this back. Okay, go right ahead. Go right ahead, please. [0:49:05, 0:49:10]: Okay. Um so I'd like to make a motion to test staff with um [0:49:11, 0:49:14]: Revising the original MAC that was approved. [0:49:15, 0:49:22]: by the council in designating the areas recommended for free parking. [0:49:23, 0:49:25]: In the areas. [0:49:25, 0:49:26]: Designated. [0:49:26, 0:49:27]: For paid parking. [0:49:28, 0:49:29]: And the fee. [0:49:30, 0:49:32]: And to bring it back to us. [0:49:33, 0:49:33]: At our next. [0:49:34, 0:49:35]: Work session. [0:49:36, 0:49:36]: April [0:49:39, 0:49:40]: City Clark. [0:49:40, 0:49:42]: What date is the work session? [0:49:45, 0:49:53]: She said April April thirtieth. Okay, so for staff to bring back your recommendation at our April thirtieth work session. [0:49:53, 0:49:55]: Is there a second emotion? [0:49:55, 0:49:56]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:49:56, 0:50:10]: Uh I'd like to have a request to Councilmember Barber to add to her motion uh to identify the designated area for Uber and Lyft as we discussed previously. [0:50:12, 0:50:13]: Ms. Barber? I agree. [0:50:14, 0:50:18]: To also designate the area for Uber and Lyft. [0:50:19, 0:50:20]: Okay. [0:50:22, 0:50:39]: Ms. Mr. Thomas second that motion I would assume that uh madam clerk you have all that? Yes, sir. Okay. On that note, uh all favor motion please indicate? It's unanimous decision. Thank you very much. All right, meeting dates and location and times are subject to change. Call or contact city hall offices at seven seven zero. [0:50:40, 0:51:00]: 389700 or visit the website of www.stopbridgega.org for updates. The Citywide Development Authority meeting second Tuesday of each month at 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room April 9th. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting scheduled for Friday, April 12th, has been canceled. [0:50:59, 0:51:07]: The board will meet on Saturday, April thirteenth at nine a.m. for a planning retreat at the Merle Manders Conference Center on April thirteenth. [0:51:08, 0:51:28]: The Downtown Development Authority meeting is the third Tuesday of each month. Welcome Center 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail and April 16th. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting 6:30 p.m. third Tuesday of each month and Levi Meeting Room City Hall April 16th. Planning Commission meeting third Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. [0:51:28, 0:51:48]: City Hall Council Chambers April 18th. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, six P.M. City Hall Council Chambers, April 30th. Stockbridge Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting first Thursday of each month, six P.M. Stockbridge Police Community Room, 4545, North Henry Boulevard, May 2nd. [0:51:48, 0:52:08]: City Council meeting is going to be the second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers, May 13th. Youth Council meeting the second Monday of each month, 6 30 p.m. City Hall, Levi Meeting Room on April on May twirlenth. Upcoming uh city events and initiatives and uh join [0:52:08, 0:52:15]: uh me, Mayor Ford for the monthly meet the mayor on April twenty second from noon, uh ten a.m. to noon. [0:52:15, 0:52:35]: Join Councilman Afonso Thomas for the monthly senior Bingo Bash on Wednesday, April 17th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at the Merrill Manters Conference Center. 111 Davis Road for Raffles Prizes Games Snacks and F. Join Councilman Yolanda Barber in partnership with JJ Smiles for the 2024 annual cookout and fundamental. [0:52:35, 0:52:55]: Fundraiser for donations of backpacks and school supplies for K-12 students on April 20th at Clark Park from 2 to 6 p.m. The event, of course, is free. Joins Councilwoman Yolanda Barber for the second annual Mother's Day tea brunch on Sunday, April 21st from 2 p.m. to 5 p.m. at Merle Manders Conference. [0:52:55, 0:53:15]: Center. This is a free event honoring mothers and the grace they carry. Join Mayor Ford for the annual State of the City address, Tuesday, April 23rd, right here in City Hall Council Chambers at 6 p.m. Join Mayor Pro Tem uh Kyle Berry for the annual National Day of Prayer on Thursday, May 2nd, City Hall Council Chambers. [0:53:15, 0:53:35]: At 6 30 p.m. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative Centered Around Education Highlights and Causing Effects of Littering and Illegal Dumping. Of course, more information to follow on that. Join Councilman Thomas and honoring veterans and a continued salute for all year long. And please send any pictures of veterans and their names and brand uh branch rank and years. [0:53:35, 0:53:55]: of service. Um and that'll be of course to Rosl and Rawls. It's R. Rawls at starbridge G dot or G. And uh join the city of Stockbridge for the annual memorial march, Memorial Day March on Monday, May 27th, More Manos Conference Center. As we reminder, as a reminder [0:53:55, 0:54:15]: Those who gave the ultimate sacrifice, stay tuned for the city's website and social media platform for more information to participate or contact the events team at 770-389-5982. And in reference to once again to meet the mayor, make your reservations with Rosalind Rawls at 678-833-3348-04. [0:54:15, 0:54:35]: Once again, R. Rawls at starbridgega.org. Hopefully, ladies and gentlemen, you had a good time and were safe in seeing the solar eclipse earlier today. And uh if you missed it, now you gotta wait another 20 years. So uh hopefully you're around 20 years from now, right, to do that. I plan to be anyway. I hope everybody else plans to be. [0:54:35, 0:54:36]: Mm-hmm. [0:54:36, 0:54:56]: Um we even though we're in the spring, we want you to remain uh healthy, so make sure you get your annual checkups and your all the vitamins that you need and drink plain water and things of this nature and uh the covet is still out there so make sure you get all your uh appropriate boosters and all your medical help and uh [0:54:56, 0:54:58]: Vaccination did you need. Yes, sir. [0:54:58, 0:55:18]: Uh we did uh we have a community cleanup uh on April the twentieth. It's going to um be on Campground Road. Okay. Uh we'll continue that ongoing commitment to uh our highways and beautification. All right, thank you for that because it was in my list here. I appreciate that, sir. All right. On that note, um and [0:55:18, 0:55:37]: And of course at our next meeting I think we'll have something in reference to annexation type issues that we may have to deal with, but that's that'll be something we'll deal with next uh next meeting. And on that note, uh ladies and gentlemen, I need uh counselor, I need a uh motion to go to the executive session and deal with real estate based on uh amphitheater marketing budget and funding. Is there a motion to go in the executive session? [0:55:39, 0:55:50]: Yes, ma'am Mayor, I move that we go into um executive session for real estate personnel and litigation issues. Sir second. Second. Mr. Alzheimer's second. All favor please indicate. [0:55:50, 0:55:51]: Therefore. [0:55:51, 0:55:52]: Yes, ma'am. [0:55:52, 0:55:59]: Okay, so this is for real estate matter. It is primary for real estate, yes it is. Okay, but that's not the motion that Councilwoman Gantt just stated. [0:55:59, 0:56:10]: So I usually just say real estate, personnel, litigation. And it we do a cover all just in case anything overlaps. I've always done that. [0:56:10, 0:56:30]: For eleven years. Okay, I need to know specifically what we're going to expect. It's real it's primary let something else coming. It's primary real estate issue. There might be some questions about staff uh uh retention. Okay, well then then it'd be best to cover everything just to make sure. So the motion's been made. [0:56:30, 0:56:32]: All right, mid second. All in favor, please indicate. [0:56:33, 0:56:40]: All right, all opposed? I oppose. Okay. Four four or one. Motion passed. Let's go and the exact good back, folks. [0:57:16, 0:57:20]: Councilists reconvene. We got it got everything together here. [0:57:23, 0:57:31]: All right, Council, I need the motion to end our executive session, please. So is there a second? Second. Mr. Barba uh Mr. Berry, second. All in favor, please indicate. [0:57:32, 0:57:47]: All right, I need a motion to reconvene our uh council meeting, please. So moved. Um uh seconded by Miss Barber. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. And uh Madam Clerk wants you to know that um um councilwoman Gantt is is uh is not present at this point. [0:57:47, 0:57:56]: One two and that to be known. And also, ladies and gentlemen, we have a uh decision made from our executive session. Uh Mr. Uh Washington, please. Okay. [0:57:56, 0:58:02]: We were just asking that the city allocate the city portion of the proceeds from the upcoming CDA [0:58:03, 0:58:08]: Property sale which is confidential to the amphitheater for marketing purposes. Some woo. Is there a second? [0:58:09, 0:58:24]: Uh Mr Mr. Berry second. All in favor please indicate. Okay, so now she sees on that. Now council need a motion to end our council meeting, please. So move. Is there a second? Mr. Berry, second that from all so on all in favor, please indicate. Uh God bless your meeting is now adjourned.

--- title: Urban Redevelopment Agency Meeting date: 2024-03-26 source: 2024-03-26_Urban_Redevelopment_Agency_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:01, 0:00:03]: If you can please stand for the invocation. [0:00:06, 0:00:17]: Lord, thank you to bring us together once again to do the city's business. Allow us to make good logical decisions in reference to items that are involved our entire city as we continue to move forward. Be with us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. [0:00:18, 0:00:30]: Mm-hmm. Say Pledge Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation, one of God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. [0:00:33, 0:00:35]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:00:36, 0:00:36]: Present. [0:00:39, 0:00:40]: Here. [0:00:41, 0:00:42]: Present. [0:00:54, 0:01:04]: I thank you madam clerk, appreciate that. Um well the URA, my board members, I need uh a motion to approve the agenda, please. So moved. Is there a second? [0:01:04, 0:01:08]: Goes from Mr Mr. Alexander to Miss Barber. On favor, please indicate. [0:01:09, 0:01:20]: Thank you very much. Unanimous decision. And uh need a motion to approve the February twelfth minutes which are before you at this time. So moved. Okay for Mr. Alexander, is there a second? [0:01:20, 0:01:35]: Ms. Barber Secondette, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Now um board members need a motion to go in executive session for real estate matters. Uh Mayor? Yes, sir. I'd like to make a motion to go in executive station for executive session for real estate matters. [0:01:35, 0:01:43]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Is there a second? Miss Barber, you second that? Oh, Miss Barber, second. All in favor, please indicate? Okay. Announced the season. We'll go into the second session. Thank you. [0:02:09, 0:02:11]: All right, council I need a motion to [0:02:12, 0:02:32]: Or count board, I guess to say board. I need a motion to end our URA um executive session, please. So moved. Okay, is there a second? Uh Mr. Berry second down from Malzander. Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. All right. And um we have for our um I want to reconvene our uh URA board. [0:02:32, 0:02:52]: by the way, one reconvene a board. Is there a motion to reconvene? Ms. Barber motions, is there a second? Mr. Mr. Berry second that from Barber to Berry. Now that we've reconvened, we will have something that we need to mention at this time. First of all, Mr. Gardner, please. Yes, sir. Just a script a quick description. [0:02:52, 0:03:01]: of the urban redevelopment law. And there are two laws, is OCGA 30 366. [0:03:04, 0:03:24]: 44. Um and it's it's a law that allows for local governments to form Urban Redevelopment Authority. And under that designation, it it it gives enhanced powers of the Urban Redevelopment Authority to transfer, sell, um, create development within the area designated for urban redevelopment. Um [0:03:24, 0:03:32]: Um the city did that back in the early two thousands where they designated a lot of the downtown area along North Henry Boulevard. [0:03:32, 0:03:35]: Um some portions of Raw Croy Road for urban redevelopment. [0:03:36, 0:03:41]: Um and so under that law you're allowed to enhance development through the transfer of properties. [0:03:42, 0:03:44]: Um two potential developers for developing. [0:03:45, 0:03:52]: Uh uh and that doesn't require that you actually have to go through a bid process to make that happen. Same type of law governs your [0:03:52, 0:04:12]: uh development authorities, whether it's an industrial development authority or city development authority, when they have a prospect, they don't put it out to bid, they act on that prospect with that piece of land that they have in hand. So this is the same process that the urban redevelopment uh uses. So thank you for the explanation. On that note, uh we have an action that we'd like to mention. Mr. Alezander, please. [0:04:13, 0:04:33]: Uh yes, sir, mayor. We uh made an action that we would like to uh tr uh transfer a property to uh Royal uh for the sale of a property located at four four four nine eight to four four eight two North Henry Boulevard for an amount of two hundred [0:04:33, 0:04:37]: hundred thousand dollars uh for by the URA board. [0:04:43, 0:04:53]: Okay, is there a second of that motion? Mr. Berry, second. All in favor, please and okay. All right, so you now see it. Thank you very much. Now, board, I need a motion to end our URA meeting, please. [0:04:55, 0:05:01]: So moved from Mr. Berry. Is there a second? Ms. Barber, second in all favor, please indicate. Okay, we are now adjourned. [0:05:01, 0:05:05]: for the URA that is. And I have six oh four. [0:05:05, 0:05:09]: Uh so on that note, ladies and gentlemen, council, I'd like to call our [0:05:10, 0:05:25]: our work session to order at 604 and um on that note um call that meeting order 604 for work session for um tuesday um [0:05:27, 0:05:30]: March twenty sixth and [0:05:30, 0:05:35]: The invocation plea oh excuse me, uh invocation, please stand for that and I'll give that. [0:05:37, 0:05:57]: Lord, thank you once again to bring us together to handle the city's business as we continue to make good logical decisions to move our city forward. Allows us to have excellent discussion and make those movements forward. And that way the citizens will be proud of the actions that we're taking as we continue to guide our city down the right path. Be as always, Lord, in your name. Amen. We'll do the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:05:57, 0:05:58]: Yeah. [0:05:59, 0:06:10]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic with which stands one nation, under God, an indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:06:10, 0:06:12]: Roll call, Madam Kerr, please. [0:06:15, 0:06:17]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:06:17, 0:06:24]: Mayor Pro Tem Berry. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Councilmember Barber. Present. Councilmember Gantt. [0:06:26, 0:06:32]: Let the record reflect Councilmember Gann is not in attendance. Council Member Thomas. Here forward, you have a call. [0:06:32, 0:06:45]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Council, I'd like to um I'd like to mention that there's been a request to take items B, C, D, and E and remove it from the Content Cassette agenda. All right, if uh if I can get a so move on that. [0:06:46, 0:06:46]: Uh this [0:06:47, 0:06:47]: Thank you. [0:06:48, 0:06:49]: Okay, wait a minute. So move? [0:06:50, 0:06:53]: Okay, Mr Mr uh Thomas Samu, is there a second? [0:06:54, 0:06:57]: Ms. Barber sec Ms. Barber second that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:06:57, 0:07:05]: All right, so those will be moved off consent agenda. We'll make those items in the right, we'll make those items five, six, seven, and eight. [0:07:05, 0:07:25]: Okay, five six is seven eight. All right, so uh so make note of that. And then um and there is an uh Mr Alzheimer, you have another Yes, uh Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to add to the agenda the an assessment uh on Eagles Landing Parkway at Eagle Point, um to have the [0:07:25, 0:07:42]: city address that. Okay, sir, second that motion. Second. Mr. Berry, second. All favor, please indicate. Now it's decision. Okay, that'll be item number nine, sir. Item number nine. And you'll lead that discussion on that. And on that note, counsel for the re I need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. [0:07:43, 0:07:48]: So move. Mr B Alexander, is there a second? Mr Mr Berry secondary. All in favor, please indicate. [0:07:48, 0:08:05]: Okay, unanimous decision, thank you very much. Okay, so please review the minutes, uh draft minutes that you have before you for the city council meeting on March fourth um of this past year. I'm just gonna March fourth earlier this month, excuse me. And uh so we'll be able to review that and then we'll be able to accept that and approve those at the next meeting. [0:08:06, 0:08:08]: Uh Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [0:08:08, 0:08:14]: Public comments, Mayor. Okay. So we we will go to the consent agenda now for item number [0:08:14, 0:08:15]: Two [0:08:15, 0:08:35]: And that dealt with the council consideration to approve the resolution to fill three vacancies and appoint three members to the youth council advisory committee to fill those unexpired two year terms. Uh but what I understand, one of those individuals that was uh brought before us uh has um I guess withdrawn their name. Is that my understanding? [0:08:38, 0:08:39]: Is that correct? [0:08:40, 0:08:40]: Okay. [0:08:43, 0:08:48]: And so really you won't we only have two individuals to approve for the um [0:08:49, 0:08:51]: for the actual s positions. [0:08:53, 0:08:54]: And [0:08:56, 0:09:00]: I believe one of those individuals would be a Valerie Reese. [0:09:02, 0:09:05]: And the other individual [0:09:08, 0:09:10]: Caitlin Caitlin. [0:09:13, 0:09:20]: Caitlin furst. No no that's not that's not proper. Nash, Miss Nash. [0:09:20, 0:09:22]: Okay. Just snatch. [0:09:23, 0:09:31]: Okay. So that was on the consent agenda to do that. Uh is there a motion well actually I would imagine th uh there's a motion to accept that, is that correct? [0:09:32, 0:09:37]: Much of those two individuals? Yes, some of them. Okay, is there a second? Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:09:38, 0:09:47]: Oh thank you. Now decision that went from Mr. Alexander to Mr. Berry. Yeah, Mr. Alexander and Mr. Berry. Okay. So on that next note uh for let's see here. [0:09:52, 0:10:12]: Okay, we have unf uh unfinished business. Unfinished business ordinance to allow additional licenses, licenses, and collections, excuse me, licenses and locations in the city for several types of businesses. Consideration of the ordinance to amend the city of Starbury's code of ordinances relating to dealers in the steel spirits, pawn shops, entire shops. [0:10:12, 0:10:32]: Shops use car dealerships and precious gems. As so to clarify the number of licenses available to provide and process for allowing additional licenses based upon census data, planning commission recommendation approval. Staff recommendations also approval. Mr. Anderson, please. Uh good evening. This is a continuation from our discussion on [0:10:32, 0:10:38]: Um March fourth about the potential locations of um the proposed local stores. [0:10:41, 0:10:59]: Uh so here's the updated uh rendition of the map that I presented last time. Uh if you highlight the yellow look at the yellow balloons, those are staff's preferred recommendations for the um prefer for the location of the liquor stores. Uh the red writing is is um [0:11:00, 0:11:03]: The existing liquor stores highlighted by a Black Star. [0:11:05, 0:11:15]: So you can see the relationship for the for where the five areas that the city's code of ordinances uh limits the potential locations of uh local stores. [0:11:17, 0:11:18]: Mr. Anderson. [0:11:18, 0:11:27]: Yes, sir. I believe the the uh dot uh next to Peach Drive is in the wrong place. It should be uh above the Jodico. [0:11:29, 0:11:30]: Which one right here? [0:11:31, 0:11:38]: Right. That should be above the Jodico property there west of I seventy five,'cause we annexed that into the city. [0:11:38, 0:11:44]: I thought she made that egg okay. I thought we made that adjustment, so [0:11:45, 0:11:45]: Okay. [0:11:48, 0:12:01]: But that was one of the the areas that we recommended, so okay. Uh this is section nine point four of the of the city code of ordinances which lists the five areas that currently liquor stores can go in. [0:12:06, 0:12:23]: Could could could you back up one second, please? Yes, sir. Okay, uh what is this? Air uh I think district four was the only one that didn't have one in there, is that right? Yes, sir. District uh four was the only one not district four, district uh three uh councilman bear is okay three, I'm sorry. Council three. Okay. [0:12:25, 0:12:38]: Area four. It'd be it'd be the on here is area four. Yes. That's why okay, that's what I got confused with. Okay. Okay, got it. I appreciate it. Okay, so all right. So otherwise Okay. All right, thank you. [0:12:39, 0:12:56]: Uh these are the zone requirements currently by the UDC. Uh C1, C2, C3, and some PUD are the zoning districts that local stores are allowed in. However, they they must have a special use permit. That means they have to come before council to get approval. [0:12:57, 0:13:08]: Uh these are the um a a map of the particular C one, C two, C three and and PUD zoning districts. Those are the uh areas in the city which are zoned by those [0:13:09, 0:13:20]: particular districts. And uh if you look at the legend, it gives the colors. Uh the green is PUD, the red is C three, the peach is C2, and the pink lavender color is uh C one. [0:13:21, 0:13:32]: So these are all the areas potentially a liquor store could go in in the city. Uh there are certain distance requirement by the UDC and the state and the city code of ordinances. Um [0:13:37, 0:13:52]: So here's um most of the vacant tracks. We tried to do a vacancy analysis of all the vacant land in those particular districts that I previously mentioned, C one, C two, C three, and PUD. So the green um circles indicate potential vacant parcels. [0:14:04, 0:14:23]: So here's uh also the um the look store uh ordinance in the city code of ordinances uh mandates a minimum lot size of six thousand square feet. And uh he's and we have sixty-three uh a total I mean according to our analysis we identified sixty-three potential parcels that meet that size requirement. [0:14:28, 0:14:37]: The lot size is only six thousand square feet? Well I I think that meant uh it means the size of the building might be six thousand square feet. [0:14:39, 0:14:42]: That's what I think it meant. But this came from the city of uh code of ordinances, so [0:14:44, 0:14:46]: I'm thinking it's the size of the building. [0:14:47, 0:14:48]: Not the lot sauce. [0:14:53, 0:15:02]: Yeah, we we would need to adjust that if what whatever the case may be'cause certainly we want it to be on a larger track than that. I mean that's i I think that's the building, Councilman Alexander. Right. [0:15:04, 0:15:24]: Uh throughout um from our analysis, we came to discover three findings. Um the number of applications for potential liquor stores are expected to be minimal given the restrictive requirements. Designated area requirements by the City Code of Ordinance, Section 9.1 [0:15:24, 0:15:30]: is very limiting. Minimum size requirement is very limiting. [0:15:30, 0:15:50]: Staff recommends repealing section 9.04.090 of the City Code of Ordinances, repeal the minimum size requirement of ordinance 9.01.120 of the City Code of Ordinances, and to allow liquor stores to be governed by the city of [0:15:50, 0:15:55]: stockbridge unified development code with a special use permit as required. [0:15:56, 0:16:15]: So um what we're recommending um to eliminate those certain specific areas that liquor stores are currently designated to be and um to allow them to be governed by, to allow the the selection of the areas to be governed by the unified development code or our zoning ordinance. [0:16:17, 0:16:22]: All right, all right, then fine with me, but I don't know what kind of questions and concerns the council have. [0:16:24, 0:16:26]: I have a question. Go right up. [0:16:27, 0:16:32]: You want us to repel the minimum size. The minimum size is six thousand square feet, right? Yes. [0:16:33, 0:16:34]: Are we gonna increase it? [0:16:35, 0:16:37]: Uh we just w I just felt like we should um [0:16:38, 0:16:58]: Well, technically because um when we did our our analysis, um from what I could read from the the code of ordinances that it was mandating that it be a standalone building. So I didn't know if council wanted to be a standalone building or it could be part of a plaza or a mixed use development. So [0:16:58, 0:17:08]: If we repeal it, that mean it could be part of a mixed use development since we have a couple of that are on the way here probab c the um liquor store could be located within one of those types of projects. [0:17:11, 0:17:13]: If we were to do that [0:17:14, 0:17:34]: And you say that it it would be governed by our unified unified development code. Yes. That would allow for them to have other locations within the city even though within close proximity to another liquor store. Like I don't want any more in my district's city. No, I mean th wherever you are, don't ask for it. I mean there still would be distance requirements and all that, but I'm saying that it [0:17:34, 0:17:35]: It would be [0:17:36, 0:17:39]: Whatever the the restrictions are of the Unified Development Code. [0:17:39, 0:17:57]: in the in its overlay districts and all that, it would regulate where they can be located at, instead of restricting it to just five particular locations in the city. There might be other areas in the city that somebody that a developer might come forward with with a proposal that we would be able to consider. [0:18:01, 0:18:01]: Okay. [0:18:02, 0:18:22]: Let me say this. Yeah, go ahead, please. I am for uh the making a change in this, but I'm not for these two repeals. I like those limiting items. I like it. I like the fact that there is only s five locations. Do we know where they are that someone could put a liquor store? [0:18:22, 0:18:42]: I kinda like that. But it's not just up to me. I don't want it to be wide open or to open the door for other locations when we can predetermine um some of those those locations ahead of time and we won't get surprised because if we open the door, you know what's gonna happen. Somebody [0:18:42, 0:18:43]: gonna come knock it. [0:18:43, 0:18:44]: Yes, sir. Okay. [0:18:45, 0:18:47]: Mr. Berry, you have some uh comments, sir? [0:18:47, 0:18:54]: Just more more of the same. Um the requirements that are already in place while not [0:18:54, 0:19:02]: a truly open Pandora's box, it does give us a little more control. Okay. And I'm definitely more in favor of us having control and say. [0:19:02, 0:19:07]: over where the future uh developments will go with this particular um item. Um [0:19:08, 0:19:24]: I'm I'm echoing with uh councilwoman Gann as well. I d I you know, I said it previously. Mm the area on Rock Quarry Road in District Three doesn't it doesn't really fit what we would like to see and what the constituents would want to see. So Okay. [0:19:25, 0:19:42]: Uh in the mirror in the package. I I like the idea that you have to build a larger size greater than six thousand,'cause you can't just build a little corner, s little package though. You gotta build something nice like what we have on Eagles Landing and Hudson Bridge. [0:19:43, 0:19:57]: And and and to add to keeping with the the pattern that we're asking for, these standalone buildings with the brick on them, that everything that we build in the future is on a consistent plane. Okay. And so that kinda helps us keep that [0:19:57, 0:19:58]: And play. [0:19:58, 0:20:12]: I think what we have we already have one that's kind of already grandfathered in. It's not a standalone building. It's part of a a strip mall actually, the one right downtown. But the others that I recall are all standalone buildings in this aspect right now. Yes, yes sir. That's correct, Mayor. Right. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [0:20:14, 0:20:18]: I d I didn't I was about to say I didn't have a problem with it being in a [0:20:18, 0:20:23]: in a shopping in a mixed use development. I see them all the time in in Atlanta or [0:20:24, 0:20:37]: Or you know, in different places, I get it, right? We have condos and people have their live, work and play and they have their stores there. I inside in D C recently. So I'm I'm not really necessarily against that, but [0:20:38, 0:20:41]: When you look at the unified development code. [0:20:42, 0:20:48]: I don't know if that allows for them, like we've already discussed, allows them to just a windfall. [0:20:48, 0:20:52]: And it opens up something that if we did it for one [0:20:52, 0:20:59]: Why are we not doing it for the other? And so maybe you can answer that if if there's a limit or can we copy these two [0:21:00, 0:21:03]: requirement, area requirements in our unified [0:21:04, 0:21:05]: Question can be [0:21:06, 0:21:07]: Whether or not [0:21:08, 0:21:09]: We can amend the [0:21:10, 0:21:15]: Development code to the requirements that and stipulations that we want. [0:21:15, 0:21:26]: Yes. Um the reason why they can't there there are we we're not appealing a the we're not repealing the portion of the city code of ordinance that pertain to the the number of additional [0:21:27, 0:21:31]: Liquor stores. We can only have an additional liquor store per p five thousand. [0:21:32, 0:21:33]: New um [0:21:34, 0:21:42]: residents. So we have 10,000 new residents. So right now we can we can only have two additional liquor store licensed. So we couldn't exceed two [0:21:42, 0:22:02]: The rationale behind um allowing a unified development code to um to govern exclusively the the the placement of the liquor stores would be just to allow them to be to go into mixed-use developments instead of just being in standalone b buildings. Let me ask a question, another question. [0:22:02, 0:22:03]: Ms. Dan, are you done? [0:22:05, 0:22:05]: Well [0:22:06, 0:22:11]: w if we allowed them to go into that into a building. [0:22:11, 0:22:15]: Mm-hmm. Right. [0:22:16, 0:22:22]: Um, kinda like, you know, how live up top and down bottom I get it. My question is [0:22:23, 0:22:25]: They would still have to meet those [0:22:26, 0:22:46]: requirements in regards to size yes and in i in the areas will still have to be meet or can we change the size can we make it increase the size you can I mean it's a presentation whatever recommendations I get from y'all I'll take it down and and craft the um the legislation so this is just a presentation we just present some options though I'm just here to take notes [0:22:46, 0:23:06]: And uh but uh a liquor store still requires a special use permit. So council still would have to sign off on wherever looker store goes. So they'll package your application together and come before you and make a presentation, you could vote yay or nay because because it requires a special use permit. That's what the UDC requires. So there are some [0:23:06, 0:23:21]: There is some layer of protection for the council memb for the council members. If if there is a place that someone is proposing a liquor store and they come before you guys and w wanna go there and you're and um the council is against it, you can vote up or down. So [0:23:24, 0:23:25]: Okay. [0:23:26, 0:23:46]: Ms. Alexander, go ahead, please. Okay, let me see if I can craft a potential solution. We got five locations identified. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Now, if we were able to codify in some way those five locations, such as Jodico, that it could go into a mixed-use local uh destination, but only in those five locations. [0:23:45, 0:23:46]: Locations. [0:23:48, 0:24:08]: Yeah, I mean we we could do that, yes sir. Right. So it would give it would it would keep us with all of the current restrictions that it would give us only the locations identified, correct? The five locations identified. Yes. But it but it would allow it to go into a mixed use in those five locations, which is [0:24:08, 0:24:22]: is at Jodico, it would be appropriate because it would need to be over six thousand square foot. It could be in a multi-tenant building, but it would be we we know what we're gonna get that it's gonna be very substantial. [0:24:22, 0:24:22]: Yes. [0:24:23, 0:24:41]: Mm-hmm. That's that's correct. So that would give us everything that we want, but it would allow some flexibility. And then on top of that, it would still have to come to the council for a up or down vote, even with all those that's very restrictive. And we didn't like it, we could still say no. Yes, sir. Exactly. [0:24:44, 0:24:53]: And Jose does have some standalone buildings too, so they they could consider doing it that way. That's one of the areas we identified for uh a new location. [0:24:56, 0:24:58]: Any questions, Council anymore? [0:24:58, 0:25:02]: I'm okay with that. We can get that. If we could get a general agreement on that. [0:25:03, 0:25:03]: Okay. [0:25:06, 0:25:11]: Where if I look at I see this circle here and I saw one like going down Rock Quarry. [0:25:11, 0:25:25]: road kind of. Yeah, that's we use consent well. Count Councilman Berry is saying no to that. Uh we can I mean the only way we can um I mean I w I consulted with legal on that and um it basically said that we um [0:25:26, 0:25:28]: Can preclude one area. [0:25:31, 0:25:32]: Of the city. [0:25:34, 0:25:36]: I guess I [0:25:37, 0:25:47]: Oh um I I consulted with an attorney about um Mr. Berry's concern and um she said it was best to leave it like that or you have to repeal the whole section. [0:25:48, 0:25:59]: So we'll have to repeal um section nine point one two oh of the city code of ordinances and it will eliminate those five particular locations. And then um [0:26:00, 0:26:01]: Um [0:26:02, 0:26:02]: Okay. [0:26:03, 0:26:11]: If we repeal that, then we can g we can designate the areas that we want. Is that you can do that if you want to, yes, ma'am? [0:26:11, 0:26:12]: Which is Judico Road. [0:26:14, 0:26:34]: I mean I'm just saying we don't want all five of'em. Well we w we were only getting two, so you can't have two, right? Just to be fair, uh I mean from a planning standpoint, it would be best to have'em spread out through the city and not instead of proliferated in uh one particular district. So that's why uh one of the reasons why [0:26:34, 0:26:54]: Area three was selected because there are currently no uh look a stores in that particular council district. Yeah, I would just say it was up, Mr. Berry. We certainly would respect your right to say no. So if there was a application to come forward and you certainly uh do wouldn't support it, I certainly would support it with my [0:26:54, 0:26:56]: vote because you have that right. Correct. [0:26:57, 0:27:09]: Right. So otherwise d the area down here, the cir the circle down here at the bottom of the the city limits w involves Tolica Road has no number on it right now. Is that correct? Yeah, I thought she updated this map, but uh [0:27:11, 0:27:26]: Oh, I got the wrong presentation. The pink spot right there where Jodoko is, and then on the other side of Jodeco. Right. To the north of that should be indicated as a location'cause that's the a location we annexed into the city. Right, right, okay. Yeah. It's updated on one map. Yes, that's correct. [0:27:28, 0:27:28]: Okay. [0:27:28, 0:27:38]: But that's in your area right now there, Miss Alexander so right. So it's highlight it's in the city you can see, but I don't know why she didn't spread the ring all the way up there. But yeah. Okay. City limit is re yeah. [0:27:39, 0:27:39]: Okay. [0:27:41, 0:27:48]: So I'll get this updated because it'd be part of the All right so we have we have a motion for any action here or for further discussion? [0:27:48, 0:28:06]: I'm not comfortable with a motion. I'm just I thought we were giving him direction to get make sure it was done. Oh yeah, but this is yeah, we we will or we we need a motion, but if you're not ready This is the second time he's come back. Yeah, it's a second time, but uh Okay. Uh I mean I can't um I I would say um just [0:28:08, 0:28:10]: Leave it as [0:28:10, 0:28:30]: As it is, and just maybe say uh add, it's already governed technically by the the UDC. I was just asking for it to be exclusively governed by the UDC. So we we can leave it in its current form. And uh even though when we identify winners of the lottery, uh they still have to come before city council and get approval for a special use permit under the [0:28:30, 0:28:37]: the current terms. So we could just leave it as is. All right. Is that a and just proceed if the motion would be to allow us to proceed with the lottery. [0:28:38, 0:28:44]: Again, my my question one more time, just to be clear. If we did what you're advising us with the UDC. Mm-hmm. [0:28:45, 0:28:46]: Тен викил [0:28:47, 0:28:59]: add those limitations. It must be over six thousand square feet. It must be we can add those into that, correct? Yes, ma'am. Okay. So it can have the same thousand square feet, okay. [0:29:00, 0:29:00]: Okay. [0:29:00, 0:29:08]: The same location that's on this map. Mm-hmm. Just the just the bot with the minimum six thousand square feet. [0:29:08, 0:29:28]: Mm-hmm. That's currently what it is now, yes. The minimum right now is six thousand square feet. I was just trying to repeal it. So then it will still be able to come to us and we will still get a vote up or down. We just add s the special use permit. It's already in the UDC that requires it. So we can just leave it like it is and uh council still will have [0:29:28, 0:29:31]: control over to say so where these liquor stores make up. [0:29:32, 0:29:35]: All right, Mr. Berry, you had something else, sir? Everybody's good down here? [0:29:35, 0:29:36]: I was asking [0:29:41, 0:30:01]: Oh, if you if you repeal it, uh then it would be governed exclusively by the UDC and it would determine where those locations can go. So some currently the UDC does not allow you to put it in mixed use development. That was the whole point. We wanted to stick this is the idea because Jodico is offering mixed use development. Currently, you said it didn't allow. [0:30:01, 0:30:15]: No, the code of ordinances restricted. The code of ordinances basically won't require the code of ordinances now basically requires it to be a standalone building. So I wasn't trying to repeal that so it could go into plazas. [0:30:15, 0:30:26]: an existing buildings. It could be part of a redevelopment project or something. I was just trying to expand the di the uh the number of places it could go in because right now it's pretty restricted. It c it can only be a standalone building. [0:30:26, 0:30:46]: Right, but we need that requirement where it it can go into yes a mixed use development. So that's what I'm saying. Yes. The Jodico both of the both of both sides of the Jodico is gonna be mixed use development. Okay. All right, I can't. So that's a qu that's that uh and but again, everybody has the respect, Mr. Berry has the flexibility, Miss Gantt has the flexibility. [0:30:46, 0:31:06]: To say no if it's presented in their district, because it's gotta come to council anyway. But we need that uh ability to put it in uh a mixed use development uh in certain areas of town. Because those are those are strictly that that that's exactly what you described, Ms. Gantt, what we had just saw where there would be a uh [0:31:06, 0:31:09]: uh that would be available to the residents that live over there. [0:31:09, 0:31:11]: Go ahead, Ms. Barber. [0:31:14, 0:31:17]: Mr. Anderson. Yes, ma'am. Okay, looking at the distance requirement. [0:31:17, 0:31:18]: Mm-hmm. [0:31:19, 0:31:28]: It says must be located more than a hundred yards of a church. Yes, ma'am. It must be located more than two hundred yards of a school. Why wouldn't that be the same? [0:31:28, 0:31:48]: Why wouldn't that what be what Why wouldn't it be the same, whatever the distance requirements? Uh that's what's that's how I was listed in the in the uh city code of ordinances. And I I think that's based on the state regulations. So they have different distance requirements for a church and a school. That's how that's how it is in the city code of ordinances. Okay. Yeah. [0:31:48, 0:31:50]: Yeah. [0:31:52, 0:32:01]: And so there there are distance requirements for a lot of the things that you were concerned about also, Councilmember Gantt. So it's pretty heavily regulated already. [0:32:02, 0:32:02]: Okay. [0:32:03, 0:32:23]: Well, I tell you what, whatever the whatever we need to do to make sure that we can get it into a mixed use development if needed is the way that I think we're trying what we're trying to say would go. So with the regulations of the the feet maintained. Correct. So move. So so the the question is the uh the motion [0:32:23, 0:32:27]: is to give us permission to move forward with the uh with the lottery. [0:32:28, 0:32:28]: Okay. [0:32:29, 0:32:44]: Okay. No one's second that just yet. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, that's what so is that but that's that what you're so moving, Mr. Alzheimer's? Yes, it is. Okay, all right then. Is there a second to that motion? This is just for [0:32:45, 0:32:48]: For everything. I mean No it [0:32:49, 0:33:09]: Can I make a motion real quick? This is for the this is for the lottery and the ability to put it in mixed use developments in those certain locations that have been identified, but it will still come back before the council for a vote. And it will still have those other stipulations. [0:33:09, 0:33:29]: Still have those restrictions where it's it must be six thousand square foot minimum. It need to be upsize, but it could go into a mixed use development. But we're basically keeping everything the same, but we're just adding a mixed use development. Correct. Yeah, okay. All right. All right. Okay. Is there a second to that motion? I second. Ms. Gantt second that now. Uh I know it's all on [0:33:29, 0:33:32]: [2013.8, 2017.2]: Okay.'Cause that was a lot that was said there. I wanna know if you caught all that. [0:33:40, 0:33:41]: Or with the lottery. [0:33:42, 0:33:50]: With the minimum of square C of six thousand, adding a component of mixed use development, and you'll still be guided. [0:33:53, 0:33:57]: Does that capture that? City UDC and the uh city code of ordinances. [0:33:58, 0:34:18]: Okay. Motion made a second. All favor, please indicate. Snaps decision. Thank you. Appreciate it. Sorry, it took so long. Okay. New business. UDC uh mail notice requirement. Consideration of an amendment to Stockbridge Unified Development Code UDC to change the provisions of the mail notice requirement pertaining to zoning case. [0:34:18, 0:34:22]: Cases to be heard at public hearings. Mr. Ryan, please. [0:34:23, 0:34:25]: Okay. Um [0:34:26, 0:34:27]: This is um [0:34:28, 0:34:47]: This uh this presentation is based on a request from um Councilmember Barber at our last meeting on March 8th. She wanted to increase the um the mail notice distance requirement. Currently our mail notice distance requirement is adjacent property owners only. However, as a courtesy staff has been um [0:34:47, 0:34:51]: advising the developers or the applicants to go out to three hundred feet. [0:34:52, 0:35:01]: Um we polled about twenty different municipalities. We heard back from thirteen and um here's the findings right here. Um [0:35:09, 0:35:13]: If you look oh so now showing up my okay, hello. [0:35:16, 0:35:20]: [2142.3, 2143.4]: All right, thanks for that. [0:35:45, 0:35:49]: So as I was saying, we polled twenty communities, we heard back from thirteen. [0:35:50, 0:35:50]: And [0:35:54, 0:35:57]: Uh as you can see, um [0:35:58, 0:36:09]: City of East Point was one that we uh poll. They have a 5,000 male notice requirement for residential development, a thousand feet for industrial development. Cherokee County has a thousand feet. [0:36:10, 0:36:12]: Forsyth County has five hundred feet. [0:36:12, 0:36:14]: Paddle Springs has two hundred feet. [0:36:15, 0:36:35]: South Fulton has a quarter of a mile, Alfaretto has 500 feet, Savannah has 300 feet, Noonan has 250 feet, Morrow has 500 feet, Hall County has 500 feet, Riverdale has 300 feet, Clarkston has I mean Thomason has 300 feet, Clarkston has [0:36:35, 0:36:38]: has three hundred feet. And after consultation with [0:36:40, 0:37:00]: The city attorney staff recommends that the city start off with a mail notice requirement of 500 feet. This is a five basically this is a 500 feet um increase because our current ordinance only requires the adjacent property owners to um be notified. So we'll we'll extend it out to 500 feet. [0:37:00, 0:37:00]: Yeah. [0:37:01, 0:37:06]: Okay. Ms. Barber, you have something you need to say, ma'am? If there is no question, I'll make a motion. [0:37:07, 0:37:08]: We'll make a motion. [0:37:09, 0:37:09]: Um [0:37:10, 0:37:17]: So we'll be before you w this will give us permission to take this to the planning commission and then it'll come back to city council. Okay. All right. [0:37:20, 0:37:31]: I was saying the motion tonight would give us permission to take it to the Planning Commission because it's a text amendment. And then once the Planning Commission votes on it, it'll come back before council for an official vote. [0:37:34, 0:37:48]: Go ahead, Miss Barber. I motion to approve the amendment to the Stockbridge Unified Development Code to change the provisions of the mailed notice requirement pertaining to zoning cases to be heard at public hearings. [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: That amendment [0:37:51, 0:37:52]: Is [0:37:53, 0:37:55]: Five hundred feet per second. [0:37:55, 0:37:58]: Ms. Barber second, that all fair presentation? I second Ms. Barber first. [0:37:59, 0:38:07]: Yeah, second, yep. Okay, you can say so. Barber Gantt here. All favorite please indicate. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay. [0:38:10, 0:38:30]: Now we're gonna move back to the items we took off the consent agenda, and that would be council consider excuse me, council consideration approved the resolution to enter into an IGA intergovernmental agreement between the city of Stockbridge and Henry County for Patrick Henry Parkway improvements. The city's total cost share would not exceed five hundred and forty thousand dollars. [0:38:29, 0:38:32]: I'll say Mr Gardner, I believe this would be you. [0:38:45, 0:38:50]: Good evening, band council. As you know, the Patrick Henry Parkway has already been paved. [0:38:51, 0:38:54]: This is a housekeeping item that came from Henry County to us. [0:38:54, 0:39:01]: Um portion of the roads actually in the city and portions of the road is actually in the county. The county had a consultant. [0:39:01, 0:39:03]: To go ahead and pave the road and [0:39:03, 0:39:22]: We mentioned that the council it it made sense just for us to go ahead and have them do that job and uh reimburse them. And so we got the IGA. Obviously the work was done before the IGA was actually consummated. Um so this is a housekeeping item for both Henry County and for us. But the road's already been paved. [0:39:23, 0:39:26]: Okay, thank you. Questions, concerns and or motion? [0:39:28, 0:39:33]: Okay. Uh is there a second to the motion? Mr. Berry second. All in favor, please indicate. [0:39:34, 0:39:50]: Okay. Namus decision, Miss Ken. I see you out there. Okay, Nam's decision on that. All right. Uh Council consideration approved a resolution to create a police department code of ethics policy for all civilian employees. Would uh is this Miss okay, Miss Renee Wheeler, please. [0:40:12, 0:40:14]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. [0:40:14, 0:40:15]: Um [0:40:15, 0:40:18]: Ви гір то гек кансл'спровод укрет. [0:40:19, 0:40:28]: To approve a resolution to create a police department code of ethics for civilian employees. Uh Mr. Uh Grover. [0:40:31, 0:40:35]: with the the accreditation manager with the ch uh police department. [0:40:35, 0:40:54]: has reviewed um our current ethics policy that is in the employee manual and this one will allow it to be uh go further than what we have in our current policy to include civilian employees. They have one in place for the sworn personnel. [0:40:54, 0:41:01]: But this is one that will need to be uh approved by you for civilian employees for accreditation. [0:41:01, 0:41:03]: Афористей на кредитation. [0:41:04, 0:41:09]: And if you have any additional questions, Mr. Grover can explain a little bit more about why this is needed. [0:41:10, 0:41:23]: I would imagine it's uh on a s assumption by your comments um is needed to make sure that our police department is fully accredited across the board for police officers and civilians and make us a top notch police department, is what I understand. Is that correct? Or is that a s good assumption? [0:41:27, 0:41:47]: Yes, so that's that's correct. Um we have two standards, one in the state program and one in the national program, which we're working on both. The the standards require that all employees meet a code of ethics. And the one that that most police departments use is one that was written by [0:41:47, 0:42:07]: International Association of Chiefs of Police in 1957, but it only deals with sworn officers. So when I looked at the city to see what they had, it it did not go far far enough. So what I did is I wrote this one, which takes care of our people, and then we sent it over and [0:42:06, 0:42:16]: And that's how we're here tonight to see if y'all want to adopt it to put it in the city's policy as well. Okay, thank you. Yes, sir. Any other questions, Council? [0:42:18, 0:42:20]: Okay, if no questions is motion to accept this policy. [0:42:21, 0:42:25]: So moved. Is there mis well miss again to Miss Barber second that all in favor please indicate? [0:42:26, 0:42:27]: She now says Susan, thank you very much. [0:42:29, 0:42:29]: Right. [0:42:29, 0:42:38]: Council consideration approved a resolution to update the city's deployment manual with general housekeeping items to keep current policies updated. I imagine this you uh you again, Miss [0:42:39, 0:42:39]: Wheeler. [0:42:40, 0:42:53]: Yes, there are a few uh housekeeping items um that needed to be updated in the employee manual and these were uh three sections in the manual that I wanted to move forward and update them. [0:42:54, 0:42:57]: One was to include um in section three seven oh under [0:42:58, 0:43:04]: Approved exceptions for vacancies and announcements that internal promotions are similar to position upgrades. [0:43:04, 0:43:09]: And likewise may not require an external job posting unless no qualified applicants apply. [0:43:10, 0:43:20]: We wanted to update that section and have that language placed in there. Section nine six nine oh zero zero zero which which would [0:43:20, 0:43:33]: uh have additional pay for exempt or non-exempt employees. What happens is that sometimes we have employees who have to fill in for positions that are higher than their current classification. [0:43:33, 0:43:44]: For example, we have a um the Main Street coordinator acting as the Main Street manager and taking on additional responsibilities for that particular position. [0:43:44, 0:43:45]: And it's customary to [0:43:46, 0:43:47]: Provide that individual with [0:43:48, 0:43:55]: A compensation for taking on those additional duties, which are more than what she's currently doing, in addition to the managerial position. [0:43:56, 0:44:07]: So this is an example of one position, but we've had it in other um positions here in the city when Brad uh Holtzinger had to take over responsibility of the water department. [0:44:07, 0:44:24]: which included also the sewer department. So he had to take on those additional responsibilities. And we would compensate that employee for that during that time period. Once we hire a a person in the job, then their compensation goes back to what they were currently making and so on. [0:44:25, 0:44:28]: Okay, so we want to add that information to the policy. [0:44:29, 0:44:33]: And the other one is that um when we had the handbook um [0:44:34, 0:44:35]: approved last time. [0:44:35, 0:44:38]: Veterans Day was left off, so we just wanna [0:44:38, 0:44:53]: add that into the policy which is not listed in there currently right now. So council had already approved it. We're just adding it as um into the manual. Okay. Okay. Go ahead please. [0:45:01, 0:45:19]: So if we do we're um in terms of um uh this position in particular I think Main Street was actually uh mentioned. Are are we going to fill that position or are we gonna look at reorganizing, possibly? [0:45:19, 0:45:32]: Right now the position is being advertised um by the economic development director. Right. I'm saying d uh we I think I don't know, maybe we need to have a discussion. Do is the position [0:45:34, 0:45:54]: might be a cost savings measure versus doing it the way that we've been doing it, where we have seen some other cities do a shared DDA and Main Street kind of uh situation where that we like we listened to a presentation at the DDA board on what Woodstock was doing in terms of whether staff kinda facilitated that. [0:45:54, 0:46:14]: So I mean seems like to me we have a lot of dual, we have a lot of duplication in the two um in the two positions, which is economic development. And when a lot of cities don't have a DDA and a Main Street, I think there could be a combination of [0:46:14, 0:46:32]: of the two versus having these positions being filled and we're always looking at opportunities to potentially have a cost savings and then maybe reapply that to a to a different area. I don't know, it's not just up to me, but certainly I I mean [0:46:33, 0:46:36]: I I I we just had some [0:46:37, 0:46:57]: We just need to make sure that we're on the same page as far as the direction that we're going in terms of terms of the city, uh whoever else we decide to bring in, whether that vision is where we're going and then the way the council is going and then uh the way uh this department is going. Because [0:46:57, 0:47:10]: Because the the route that the council has chosen is a more modern, thriving downtown versus a classic Main Street model. Um where [0:47:13, 0:47:15]: We really don't have a lot of [0:47:16, 0:47:36]: that traditional downtown where the courthouse is or the particular, you know, businesses are are a traditional Main Street. We don't have that. We're developing a more uh again a more not an urban but more modern type [0:47:36, 0:47:47]: Uh, therefore point of order. What's your point over? Point of order. This item is whether or not to approve the resolution to update the city's employee manual [0:47:47, 0:47:52]: with general general housekeeping items to keep current policies updated. [0:47:53, 0:48:06]: That's true. Good point. Certainly. My contention is again is that before we make that decision, we gotta decide where are we gonna hire another main street manager? Or are we gonna do something different? [0:48:07, 0:48:18]: Is that your recommendation to hire another Main Street manager? So if you remember at the at the retreat we just recently had Mr. Alons came in and he outlined his vision for the department. [0:48:18, 0:48:25]: He also outlined that division when he first got here last year. Uh and that division was on the border. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [0:48:26, 0:48:29]: This item is specifically [0:48:30, 0:48:33]: Whether or not the council approves a resolution [0:48:33, 0:48:35]: To update the city's employee manual. [0:48:36, 0:48:41]: With general housekeeping items. [0:48:41, 0:48:44]: We want to restructure the department. [0:48:45, 0:49:05]: That is a completely different subject. Okay. Stick with the item as it is on the agenda, please. Okay. So let's stay on the agenda. Let's so what so what that's what the discussion is about the about the what you presented, Miss Wheelers. That's absolutely right. Correct. Okay. So if we have questions or concerns specifically about this topic on hand. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [0:49:05, 0:49:14]: I move to accept the recommendation as presented. Okay, is there a motion's a second? A second. Okay. From Mr. Ms. Thomason, Ms. Barber. All in favor, please indicate. [0:49:15, 0:49:16]: Opposed. [0:49:17, 0:49:25]: I just have I had a question. I I certainly would like that question. [0:49:26, 0:49:40]: You're not going to be able to do that. She said that's what they were going to do. But again, I'm I'm I'm I will abstain until I get that information. Four zero one motion passed. Thank you. Thank you. [0:49:42, 0:49:52]: Okay, what we have next, council's c uh consideration to approve the resolution to accept federal funding support of the youth and the senior uh center project. Mr. Gardner, please. [0:50:03, 0:50:23]: Thank you, Mayor. Council members. Um at our recent uh Washington DC visit with the National Leagues of Cities, um one of the things we heard um from some of the staff was in order for us when we bring our list of projects, in order to make sure that our projects are uh truly uh localized. [0:50:23, 0:50:43]: was and to get the support thereof of the legislature was to make sure that we had some supporting documents, let of uh letter of uh support for those specific projects. And so with that I'd mentioned to the mayor that uh and I checked with the city clerk that we have a resolution of support as it relates to the Uton Senior Center. There was not one. [0:50:43, 0:51:03]: And so I actually put it on the agenda, put it on the agenda so we could have something official that we sent to them, letting them know: hey, this is a project that we support. We want you guys to fund it. Um, also requested some letter of support from our local clergy that would also go up there along with this to say, hey, we're asking. [0:51:03, 0:51:23]: for X amount of millions of dollars for this project. It is supported by the community. It is needed by the community. Uh and so that hopefully that gets us over the hump when it comes to asking for the amount that we were asking for for for that specific project. So that's that's what this was. Mr Alexander, go ahead please. [0:51:23, 0:51:43]: The purpose of this particular resolution is to present it to uh our congressional delegation so that uh uh following our meeting that we had in DC, that uh there was uh going to be some funds that would be committed uh [0:51:43, 0:52:03]: uh on the federal level for us to be able to move forward uh with this particular project. And that's the on that's the intent of this resolution, correct? That is the crux of the resolution. And it's your recommendation that we that this is necessary. Yes. That's that's all I'll to the council matters. Mr Mr Thomas, go ahead please. Thank you. [0:52:05, 0:52:08]: Mr. Gardner and Council, um [0:52:09, 0:52:22]: I wanted to make a statement in into the records. Uh I was also there in Washington as well, and I was very attentive to the discussion. [0:52:22, 0:52:30]: Also, we were informed even before we met with the congressman that [0:52:32, 0:52:40]: He had already approved the allocation for the city of Stock Green. No, no, no, no, no. No, sir. No. [0:52:41, 0:52:45]: No. Go ahead and scroll. [0:52:46, 0:53:06]: I think council Councilmember Thomas, what he was talking about was when we got in, he talked about the the one the projects that we submitted last year, which was the water and sewer project as well as the um bridge project that they funded for a tune of about three million dollars. He mentioned that first year that was the kudos that he gave um [0:53:06, 0:53:26]: For each of the cities that got funding. I think that's what that was pertaining to. Because when we give them this list, it has to actually go through congressional appropriations, which means it gets voted on by both um both chambers, the House and the Senate, as part of either an omninous bill, they attach it to another Senate bill or a congressional bill. [0:53:26, 0:53:46]: Bill. But that process, as we knew, took us almost a year from when we submitted uh our projects last year. Um we were notified that they were put into appropriations, I think back in October, September of last year. And then we got notice about a week or two before we got up there that they actually truly got funded and that [0:53:46, 0:54:06]: We should be receiving those funds. So the process takes a while, but he said that he would actually put our project, this project in the HOP is what I think he said. Um, but it still has to go through the appropriations commit process. No, I I don't dispute or doubt any of that. My purpose for my statement here and email that I sent to you and to [0:54:06, 0:54:07]: Council. [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: was was twofold. [0:54:10, 0:54:11]: to seek [0:54:13, 0:54:14]: Approval. [0:54:14, 0:54:15]: Of inclusivity. [0:54:16, 0:54:20]: to add the word arts into this resolution. [0:54:21, 0:54:22]: Number two. [0:54:22, 0:54:24]: To question [0:54:26, 0:54:46]: some of the information that was in the attachment. But again, I I just want to read into the records my position uh just for inclusion in into the record and I'll and I'll read this again and I I know that uh all of you received it because [0:54:46, 0:54:49]: [3290.4, 3299.1]: And I just wanted to be clear, but again, I I I don't have any issues with the statement that you made and the process. [0:54:59, 0:55:05]: I'm asking for the resolution to be amended to add a word. [0:55:06, 0:55:07]: Even though the [0:55:08, 0:55:09]: I still question. [0:55:10, 0:55:13]: The validity of some of the information [0:55:14, 0:55:15]: That was in the attachment. [0:55:16, 0:55:36]: But I wanted to be clear, and I'm just gonna read this and it fall where it may. Uh I have been an advocate for the Youth and Senior Center from day one. In 2019, I hosted a town hall meeting at Smill Barn Elementary School to get input from the Stockbridge citizens on what they want. [0:55:36, 0:55:39]: [3339.6, 3347.3]: I placed a survey online and received more than 500 responses from the community for programs for the center. [0:55:48, 0:56:01]: I advocated for the land to be purchased and earmarked to build the youth and senior center. So let me put to rest any and all notions that I am not in favor of the youth and senior center. [0:56:02, 0:56:04]: I support this project one hundred percent. [0:56:05, 0:56:15]: I certainly support any assistance from Congressman David Scott's office and any and all agencies and grants that can assist the city with funding. [0:56:16, 0:56:21]: with funding to bring this project to fruition. However, I do have questions. [0:56:22, 0:56:36]: The resolution attached to this item says the City of Stockbridge has already allocated funds for the preliminary conceptional design and establish a construction budget for the Youth and Senior Center. [0:56:37, 0:56:40]: Question When did the council vote to approve that? [0:56:42, 0:56:45]: Where is the funding coming from? Second question. [0:56:46, 0:56:58]: Please include in your response to this email when the city council approved the budget for the Youth and Senior Center and when the funding was approved for conception of design, engineer, and construction. [0:56:58, 0:57:03]: Also, please include in your response the splash list of [0:57:04, 0:57:10]: that is referenced indicating the amount of funding to go toward this project. [0:57:11, 0:57:14]: How much funding is being allocated [0:57:14, 0:57:15]: Question. [0:57:16, 0:57:26]: My recollection is that TSW presented a rendering of the Cultural Arts Center with all the bells and whistles that we asked for. [0:57:27, 0:57:29]: and then presented a rendering of a [0:57:30, 0:57:37]: 30 plus million dollar design for the youth and senior center with a pool. [0:57:37, 0:57:39]: Indoor walking track. [0:57:40, 0:57:41]: A two story [0:57:42, 0:57:44]: And the entire room went silent. [0:57:44, 0:57:46]: After hearing the price tag. [0:57:47, 0:57:52]: And from that point on there was no discussion on that particular issue until here recently. [0:57:53, 0:58:06]: Yes, we all want to see the Youth and Senior Center. Yes, we want the Congressman's office to assist us with funds to help build the facility. I'm on board with that. And any other office [0:58:07, 0:58:09]: Any other offer that may fully support [0:58:10, 0:58:14]: Бо ви канат exclude the ars. [0:58:14, 0:58:19]: I want to remind council that at the last retreat in February of this year, the [0:58:19, 0:58:22]: We all agreed on a campus of [0:58:22, 0:58:24]: That would be called [0:58:24, 0:58:27]: The campus connection. [0:58:28, 0:58:30]: That would be a combined [0:58:30, 0:58:31]: facility [0:58:32, 0:58:36]: that would include the arts as well as the youth and senior center. [0:58:36, 0:58:42]: That seemed to have been omitted from this resolution and it need to be included. [0:58:43, 0:58:51]: During my entire tenure on the city council, I have been a true advocate for the youth and seniors and the arts for this city. [0:58:52, 0:58:56]: I have been a strong proponent advocating and recognizing that [0:58:56, 0:58:59]: The youth of this s of this community for years [0:58:59, 0:59:02]: including the boy scouts, the girl scouts. [0:59:02, 0:59:17]: instrumental in facilitating Eagle Scout projects, the Gates Millennial Scholars, musicians, dancers, vocalists, who have been able to showcase their talents at various initiatives over the years. [0:59:18, 0:59:32]: During the upcoming week, I will honor more than 80 elementary, middle, and high school students throughout the various Stockbridge school cluster, the young and gifted earners. [0:59:35, 0:59:43]: I will honor them in these various clusters for their outstanding academic and extracurricular achievements. [0:59:44, 0:59:46]: I wholeheartedly support [0:59:49, 1:00:09]: I wholeheartedly support and recognize that our children and adults need a community center where they can go to participate in physical activities as well as how the arts will advance their knowledge and growth and career opportunities. [1:00:08, 1:00:15]: I say that to say this. I have been an advocate for years, not only highlighting [1:00:15, 1:00:17]: The academic accomplishment [1:00:17, 1:00:20]: But also highlighting their artistry in music, [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: Dance and dramatics. [1:00:23, 1:00:31]: as well confirmed by the associate superintendent of Henry County Schools, who presented to the city council [1:00:32, 1:00:35]: Music and arts have a profound [1:00:35, 1:00:41]: positive impact on students and their correlation to academic success. [1:00:42, 1:00:45]: I asked this council for your support [1:00:46, 1:00:48]: To amend the resolution. [1:00:49, 1:00:50]: To include [1:00:50, 1:00:51]: Arts. [1:00:52, 1:00:53]: As discussed [1:00:53, 1:00:55]: and improve unanimously [1:00:56, 1:01:00]: By consent of the campus connection. [1:01:01, 1:01:03]: At the February retreat. [1:01:04, 1:01:08]: So I say all that to say and then I'm just asking and I'm [1:01:08, 1:01:09]: Move. [1:01:10, 1:01:11]: To [1:01:11, 1:01:13]: Add the word arts. [1:01:13, 1:01:16]: to the resolution. [1:01:18, 1:01:26]: All right, on that on that note, I believe less uh Mr. Gardner, before we go any further, you have some responses to this initial conversation. Is that correct? [1:01:26, 1:01:27]: Yeah. [1:01:27, 1:01:44]: Not really so. Um I I will say that last year when we went, we did take the Performing Arts Center as our primary project and was specifically told no by the Congressman that that would not go through appropriations on either the Democratic side or the Republican side. [1:01:44, 1:01:51]: So they would not fund anything that had performing or arts. That was specifically told to us last year when we went um [1:01:52, 1:02:05]: at the NLC conference and met with Congressman Scott that they would not that would not fly. And that was the reason why we didn't put it in there, um, because we were previously told that if we did that, we won't get any funding. [1:02:06, 1:02:16]: Um and so that's why arts wasn't included in their or the performing wasn't included in their servers because of that one instruction that we was given by Congressman David Scott last year, twenty twenty three. [1:02:17, 1:02:34]: Um as relates to where the language came from, obviously yes, the city paid for an architect to give us those renderings, to give us the square footage, as the specific areas. And so that's what I put in there because what that does is it tells the legislature that [1:02:34, 1:02:36]: We have actually put some skin in the game. [1:02:37, 1:02:40]: Аз у релейцу moving forward with this initiative. [1:02:40, 1:02:41]: Um be it [1:02:41, 1:02:44]: five thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars [1:02:44, 1:02:48]: Um that we paid for that rendering to be done for those architects to do that work. [1:02:48, 1:03:08]: We at least know that we can say that we actually have put some skin in the game as it relates to it. So when they're out there advocating for us for the city, they don't have to say that when they ask the question, what has the city of Stockbridge done as in relation to this? They can say, hey, they've got some preliminary design. We've got a photo of it as part of their pocket. Um, they've got some square. [1:03:08, 1:03:22]: footage and they've got some costs because there were included in that document um costs associated with the performing arts as well as with the Uton Senior Center. And so that's where that came from. It wasn't meant to in any way defray [1:03:23, 1:03:24]: From any other project? [1:03:25, 1:03:27]: Ба то трай з безми кін. [1:03:27, 1:03:35]: to get congressional support for what represented. That was all of this the resolution was was uh intended to do, sir. [1:03:35, 1:03:42]: Mr. Gardner, I I do appreciate that. Um I I did not hear that this year from the Congressman, but [1:03:43, 1:03:47]: My intent today was to just go on record. [1:03:47, 1:03:49]: And to put this into [1:03:50, 1:03:54]: uh the archive of my advocacy for the arts. [1:03:55, 1:04:15]: Of course, I've heard conversation from council members uh over the years, but I will continue to advocate for the arts for all of the students and all of our children here in Henry County because I do understand that when we're advocating [1:04:15, 1:04:18]: uh for our kids and our youth [1:04:18, 1:04:30]: Some of us talk about recreation and and I get that. I'm a former football player. I went to school playing football, so I get that. I'm a swimmer. I understand all of that. [1:04:31, 1:04:35]: But what is lacking in the city of Stockbridge [1:04:35, 1:04:43]: And the advocacy for us because I work with these kids, I hear from these parents, and there are a number of programs right now. [1:04:44, 1:04:49]: Where you can actually see young people performing. [1:04:49, 1:04:53]: learning how to read music, writing music. [1:04:53, 1:04:54]: Playing instruments. [1:04:54, 1:05:00]: And on Thursday, if you come out, you will see the cotton Indian [1:05:00, 1:05:01]: Um [1:05:01, 1:05:07]: Elementary school, twenty six members in a chorus ensemble. [1:05:07, 1:05:16]: and you will see them. If ha if you have ever attended any of my uh heritage celebration, you have seen these dances. Point of order. [1:05:17, 1:05:35]: Mayor, we we we just got through talking about staying on the topic. We've wandered way off the topic at this point. Talking about the Culture Arts Center, city events. This resolution is specifically about the Youth and Senior Recreation Center. Now we s we went went through this earlier, correct? [1:05:35, 1:05:41]: Correct. All right, we'll stay on topic. All right, uh Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [1:05:42, 1:05:43]: Yes, sir. [1:05:43, 1:05:47]: A presentation was made about a resolution. That's correct. [1:05:48, 1:05:53]: My motion and I made a motion and I'm requesting [1:05:53, 1:05:55]: And I'm still talking about the resolution. Okay. [1:05:56, 1:06:06]: that the word arts be included. So I will stop there and I you know the council can vote whichever way they want, but I just want the record to reflect [1:06:08, 1:06:10]: My advocacy [1:06:10, 1:06:23]: And my statement and the record going forward about the arts in the city of Stockholm. All right, good deal. And I yield back. Thank you. Thank you. Uh Ms. Gannon, you had a c a comment? Thank you. Yes I do, Mayor. There's a couple of things. [1:06:24, 1:06:24]: Um [1:06:26, 1:06:31]: Our city manager, Mr. Gardner has already stated that we cannot use that term. [1:06:31, 1:06:38]: And I called this year during the retreat, I called and spoke to Zoe. Those that that still stands. [1:06:39, 1:06:41]: If we want funding. [1:06:41, 1:07:00]: Arts, cultural arts, co arts and m music, whatever, we can't that is not going to get funded on either side of the parties. So as a council member, I want to do what's in the best interest of Stockbridge. [1:07:00, 1:07:03]: And I wanna get as much funding as I can get. [1:07:04, 1:07:08]: And that is being based off of this resolution that's listed here. [1:07:09, 1:07:10]: Another thing. [1:07:11, 1:07:18]: Um also we also during I recall in a retreat that we spoke and we agreed that we were going to [1:07:18, 1:07:24]: Um that funding would be provided for the for the youth and senior center, the community center. [1:07:24, 1:07:26]: In пла six. [1:07:27, 1:07:28]: as well. [1:07:28, 1:07:29]: Not only that, but [1:07:30, 1:07:49]: I believe each and every single council member her here appreciates the arts, appreciates culture, appreciates uh, you know, uh whether it's acting or singing or dancing or playing music. My daughter plays, I played the concert French horn and I was in the orchestra. I think we all appreciate it. [1:07:51, 1:07:52]: But we also pay [1:07:53, 1:07:55]: ninety percent of our taxes at the Board of Education. [1:07:55, 1:07:58]: Who has built a state of the art center? [1:07:58, 1:08:00]: Right up the street. [1:08:00, 1:08:07]: Right up um in in S well, it's called Stockbridge, but it's actually in Elm in Bearview, Ellenwood. [1:08:07, 1:08:18]: And they also like the Cotton Indian elementary, they went to practice at their school and their facilities. I want the art center to be built. [1:08:20, 1:08:20]: But [1:08:21, 1:08:23]: There is a specific need. [1:08:24, 1:08:37]: When we and I had my town hall and we hear from other I've heard from every single council member up here on the need for a a community center, a youth and senior center in general. And that just doesn't include recreation. [1:08:38, 1:08:58]: That includes space. That could be it who knows. You can have an empty room that includes a practice room for arts or a particular area. But we wanted, we did agree and talk about that. Having said that, I want to make a motion to approve the resolution as written to accept. [1:08:58, 1:09:01]: federal funding in support of the Youth and Senior Center project. Second. [1:09:02, 1:09:04]: The motion motion's been made and seconded. [1:09:04, 1:09:05]: Yes, ma'am. [1:09:06, 1:09:08]: There was never a second to that motion he made. [1:09:10, 1:09:18]: Okay, well well the motion originally made by Councilman uh Thomas was now seconded. Mayor Ford, I would have seconded that had you called for a vote. Well [1:09:19, 1:09:28]: Well actually what what a now right now we already do we do have an active motion on the full right now. No. So yes we do. We have a motion that was made in a second, so it's active one. We got a second. [1:09:29, 1:09:32]: So it is the motion. Point of order. What's the point of order, sir? [1:09:33, 1:09:53]: Uh Councilwoman Barber is correct. When the motion was made, you did not you did not ask for that's correct. I did not ask, but that doesn't always sometimes I don't ask and someone still says the same thing. But but you didn't allow because Councilman Alexander interrupted and you went on and you went on and then you diverted. [1:09:53, 1:09:58]: So I'm just saying procedural wise, you have to allow the motion [1:09:58, 1:10:07]: On the floor to stand and let it take its course. Whether it pass or whether it fail, you have to allow the motion to take its course. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [1:10:07, 1:10:19]: I will I if if if the procedure wasn't done, I will remove my motion so that they can make their motion. However, for the record, Miss Holliday, I want it to be known. [1:10:20, 1:10:36]: that we have been advised, it has been stated from count from Congressman Scott's office as well as from our city manager that we cannot use the term arts. We cannot you we cannot seek funding for arts and expect for it to get approved. [1:10:36, 1:10:43]: And that that is a d no, I want it verbatim the way I just said it. And that it would be a detriment to our city. [1:10:44, 1:10:48]: І на лан лак о фунди. Со а болів. [1:10:48, 1:10:54]: That we should do what's in the best interest of the city. And that does not mean that we are not gonna have a art center. [1:10:55, 1:11:00]: It means that we make smart decisions and do what's right, business decisions. [1:11:00, 1:11:14]: Point of order. Oh she just you just withdrew your motion. No, no, watch that. Hold on, hold on for folks, please. You just spoke, Ms. Grant, and you did you withdraw your motion or not? [1:11:15, 1:11:29]: Mayor for I will withdraw if that's what you need me to do if you're gonna accept the other motion. However, my motion will stand. I will make I will the motion I'm making will stand as well. That's the motion I want. Okay. Po point of order, Mayor. What's your point order, sir? [1:11:30, 1:11:40]: I'm I'm not disputing or debating anything that anybody said. My point to the mayor is about a procedure. [1:11:41, 1:11:43]: A motion was made to [1:11:44, 1:11:46]: And you did not allow [1:11:46, 1:11:52]: The motion to carry Samantha and I'm not saying Samantha, come to mic, please. [1:11:53, 1:12:09]: Oh but Mill, understand understand what I'm saying. And I'm I'm not advocating for it to pass or to fail, but I'm just I'm I'm you I'm stating to you and specifically said there was no second. You said that. I know I I know I said that. I know I said that. [1:12:10, 1:12:12]: You you I missed it up. [1:12:13, 1:12:21]: When you as a presiding officer interrupted when a motion is made, you have to allow the motion to go through [1:12:21, 1:12:28]: No, you don't. Mr. Alzheimer's please. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Whether you feel okay. [1:12:29, 1:12:31]: You have to allow the motion to go through a decision. [1:12:32, 1:12:34]: Got it. [1:12:35, 1:12:37]: We know that it's not going to ask. [1:12:37, 1:12:42]: because of the comments that we're making. But I'm just trying to correct the process. [1:12:43, 1:12:45]: from the presiding office. [1:12:46, 1:13:06]: That's the only point I'm trying to make. All right, thank you for that. Now, you you you heard all the debate here. A motion was made. Didn't I didn't ask for a second? There wasn't a second, all right, until after a mother motion was made and seconded. Now, I have to admit I should ask for a second, but there have been times I haven't asked for a second. Someone says second. So what is the proper procedure? Do you know if [1:13:06, 1:13:13]: In reference to you the this the way that we should run this. You don't have to formally call you asking me if you have to s ask for a second. [1:13:13, 1:13:28]: Well, I didn't ask for one. I'm saying are you asking me if that's a requirement? Well Well well, I would imagine go ahead. Yes. It's not. If it's if they if it's seconded voluntarily without you moving for it to be seconded, the second still stands. [1:13:28, 1:13:35]: Okay. But I didn't ask for a second. No. And no one said it's a a second until after another motion was made. Correct. Okay. [1:13:36, 1:13:44]: So because that first motion wasn't seconded, it wasn't procedurally correct. There's no vote on the first one. And I didn't hear a second on the second motion either. [1:13:44, 1:14:04]: Okay. The second one was was okay. Thank you. I second the second. So the second motion is the one that's pending a vote unless it's recalled. Okay. I will not remove my motion. Okay. So Miss Gantt made a motion. Ms. Alexander seconded the motion. Yeah. Okay. So there needs to be a vote unless it's pulled back. Okay. Thank you. May I have a comment? Yeah. [1:14:04, 1:14:12]: Yes, sir. Yes. See, this this right here. I'm calling on everybody to do the right thing. We know. [1:14:13, 1:14:18]: what was said to this council. We know what the facts are. [1:14:19, 1:14:39]: We cannot include those words. This is a totally separate project. This project here is dealing with the recreation center. In case anybody's watching, this is the recreation center project. And if we want that funding for that project, this is the language that must be included. I'm not gonna go on personality, I'm not gonna go. [1:14:39, 1:14:59]: On who is my friend. I'm going on what is best for the city. What is best for the city is that we have a unanimous vote for this particular resolution that has been prescribed by the city manager without the word arts because we have been told already it will not go anywhere. We cannot risk [1:14:59, 1:15:07]: Millions of dollars in funding because we want to be right. And I'm calling on this council to do the right thing. I'm calling on [1:15:07, 1:15:11]: Councilman Thomas to withdraw his motion, understanding that [1:15:11, 1:15:15]: This is miljuns of dollars at risk should this pass. [1:15:15, 1:15:35]: Clarification, sir. It you can't withdraw it because it never was said. We need a unanimous vote from this council to show this community. [1:15:35, 1:15:49]: community, not that we're just talking that we want to do the right thing and don't want to risk fifteen to eighteen million dollars. That's what state I need we need to do, put pride aside right now and vote yes. Mayor Ford. Yes sir. [1:15:50, 1:15:50]: Mm. [1:15:51, 1:15:57]: The council is taking this way too far. Okay. I read a statement saying that I support [1:15:58, 1:16:02]: Okay. And I also stated my intention [1:16:03, 1:16:06]: was to motion to add the word. [1:16:08, 1:16:08]: Yes. [1:16:09, 1:16:11]: That's just that simple. Okay. [1:16:12, 1:16:30]: So the vote is the vote. Okay. But I read and said and because I stated that I initially started this whole issue about a youth and senior facility and advocated for the city to purchase the land. So yes, I'm in favor of that. [1:16:30, 1:16:39]: So I'm just saying we're blowing this way out of proportion. All right. Anytime, let me just finish. Anytime a motion is passed or made. [1:16:40, 1:16:44]: Some fail and some don't. I I I'm I'm not hung up on that. [1:16:44, 1:16:47]: But this council is making more out of [1:16:47, 1:16:50]: Then it is. Any motion [1:16:50, 1:17:02]: It fails or it passed. It's just that simple. All right. All right. So um we have a motion on the floor by Miss Cant, second number Mr. Alexander. And I would say to the clerk, you have that motion written down. [1:17:03, 1:17:07]: And for for purposes, while to read that motion, please. [1:17:16, 1:17:25]: Excluding. No, I didn't say excluding or it doesn't s uh my motion is just like it's read on this paper. Has I don't want the word arts on it at all. [1:17:26, 1:17:27]: I said [1:17:28, 1:17:31]: The motion is just as already written. [1:17:32, 1:17:35]: For councils, consider what what you drafted. [1:17:35, 1:17:36]: Earlier. [1:17:36, 1:17:37]: E. [1:17:37, 1:17:39]: Council's consideration to approve [1:17:40, 1:17:43]: A resolution to accept federal funding. [1:17:43, 1:17:47]: In support of the youth and senior center project. That's my motion. [1:17:48, 1:17:58]: And it was seconded by It has nothing to do by arts. And it was earlier seconded by Mr. Alexander. Right. Okay. And let me and we've already discussed this there. Well, but I have a problem with that. [1:17:59, 1:18:00]: Because [1:18:01, 1:18:02]: Again. [1:18:03, 1:18:12]: We all are in agreement. Mayor and Council wants the arts. Mayor and Council wants a youth and senior center. We we we agreed on all of that. [1:18:12, 1:18:14]: My problem is [1:18:15, 1:18:20]: We would rather risk fifteen miljon dollars by adding a word. [1:18:20, 1:18:33]: Or saying a word in a document. So Ron will go ahead and vote then. Right. Okay. So the motion is May second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. I have had my hand raised to make a comment and you have yet to acknowledge me. [1:18:34, 1:18:36]: Okay, Miss Barber, what's on your mind? [1:18:36, 1:18:47]: Okay. So had you acknowledged like uh Mayor Ford, may I finish speaking? [1:18:48, 1:18:49]: Well yeah. [1:18:50, 1:18:50]: Okay. [1:18:51, 1:18:55]: Prior to joining the council, I attended the town hall meeting. [1:18:56, 1:18:59]: that Councilman Thomas is speaking of regarding the Youth and Senior Center. [1:19:00, 1:19:02]: It is the reason why I questioned [1:19:03, 1:19:10]: how the council prioritized its capital projects when I first was sworn in. [1:19:10, 1:19:12]: When I was approached [1:19:13, 1:19:15]: About the Cultural Arts Center. [1:19:16, 1:19:17]: А вас клея день. [1:19:18, 1:19:20]: I support the Ютен Senior Center. [1:19:21, 1:19:23]: Авторш о амфітер. [1:19:24, 1:19:25]: I was told that [1:19:26, 1:19:31]: That the council voted and approved the priorities of these capital projects. [1:19:32, 1:19:33]: Yeah, yeah. [1:19:34, 1:19:36]: I later found out [1:19:36, 1:19:37]: That wasn't true. [1:19:38, 1:19:39]: It was after. [1:19:40, 1:19:43]: I approved bonding for the Cultural Arts Center. [1:19:44, 1:19:46]: That I found out [1:19:46, 1:19:48]: That I was deceived. [1:19:48, 1:19:54]: I support the Ютен Сенір Центр. [1:19:54, 1:19:56]: At least twice. [1:19:56, 1:19:57]: Here on this council. [1:19:58, 1:20:01]: А во профессии youth. [1:20:01, 1:20:02]: And senior center. [1:20:03, 1:20:04]: I said that. [1:20:04, 1:20:05]: I've been saying it. [1:20:05, 1:20:08]: I also have been saying it is best at the city [1:20:09, 1:20:13]: Find other ways to fund our capital projects. [1:20:14, 1:20:17]: We do not have to use a hundred percent uh [1:20:18, 1:20:21]: city tax or taxpayer dollars to do it. [1:20:21, 1:20:23]: There are partnerships. [1:20:24, 1:20:27]: спонсор да ви щобі [1:20:28, 1:20:29]: For all of our projects. [1:20:30, 1:20:31]: Including [1:20:31, 1:20:32]: The amphitheater. [1:20:33, 1:20:43]: Point of order. We're talking about the resolution. Mayor Ford, may I finish the first one? We're talking about the resolution. We wandered way off topic again. All right. [1:20:43, 1:21:00]: And then we'll see. Stand by, stand by. You right. Resolution is what we're supposed to be talking about. And that's what some motion is made on the floor. So that that is a true statement. So why don't we stay on topic? So if you can stand if you can talk about the resolution specifically, fine. If you can't, we need to go ahead and take a vote and move on. [1:21:00, 1:21:07]: This resolution speaks to the funding of the Youth and Senior Center, in which sponsorships [1:21:09, 1:21:10]: Partnerships. [1:21:11, 1:21:11]: are mentioned. [1:21:12, 1:21:14]: We should be looking for partnerships. [1:21:14, 1:21:17]: For all of our capital projects grants. [1:21:17, 1:21:19]: All of them. [1:21:19, 1:21:20]: I support [1:21:21, 1:21:26]: The Culture Arts Center. I support the Youth and Senior Center as well. [1:21:26, 1:21:34]: We have an opportunity to receive federal funding to help us move the Youth and Senior Center forward. [1:21:35, 1:21:36]: Right now. Right. [1:21:37, 1:21:41]: Unlike the Cultural Arts Center, there is no partnerships. [1:21:41, 1:22:00]: No federal funding available for it. But you're about to say those are the points that I'm trying to make. So as we move forward, I would have supported and seconded Councilman Thomas's resolution to include the arts in here. [1:22:00, 1:22:01]: Only because [1:22:03, 1:22:06]: I don't I don't remember if they required [1:22:07, 1:22:12]: I don't remember if Congressman Scott's office required that the council approve [1:22:12, 1:22:19]: A resolution specifically for the Youth and Senior Center. They did. So if this resolution is approved. [1:22:20, 1:22:25]: What would it be hurting to include the youth and senior centers in the arts? [1:22:26, 1:22:28]: Is is it going? Mr Gardner. [1:22:29, 1:22:32]: With this resolution, be going to [1:22:32, 1:22:35]: Congressman Scott's office, they already know we support it. [1:22:36, 1:22:38]: In fact, we're actually asking them for help. [1:22:40, 1:22:51]: Ma'am, the the resolution will go to Congressman Scott office, Mr. Ossoff office, as well as Mr. Warnock office because appropriation funding goes to both chambers of the ho uh of the sen of the Congress. [1:22:51, 1:23:11]: House and Senate. So when it gets there, they will obviously know that, yes, the purpose of the resolution is just to state an official statement of support. That's it. For that. Right? This council sees the importance of this project and it hints asking you to appropriate federal funds for this project. [1:23:11, 1:23:12]: Mm- [1:23:12, 1:23:32]: Right? We they talked about letter of getting support from the community. So when we did the clergy meeting, I asked those clergy people, would you all be in support? I did a brief presentation, they said yes, right? Because that goes as well. So when they're and they're advocating for the city of Stockbridge's project, they know that it's not just the city that's [1:23:32, 1:23:38]: advocating for terms of city leadership, they see that there's also the community in terms of the clergy that's also doing the same. [1:23:39, 1:23:59]: Um and and yes, we were told last year, if we put performing arts, they will not fund it. And the reason for that is you have two philosophies out here: one that's liberal and one that's conservative. In conservative, view arts and culture different from some liberals or democrats. And so they [1:23:59, 1:24:08]: will not support it. And that was the purpose of that statement that we were told last year. It's because yeah, I can support it, but I can't take it on the other side of the aisle. [1:24:08, 1:24:11]: Right? Because in their review [1:24:11, 1:24:19]: A and and I'll just hypothesize the reason why is every and anybody uses a a uh [1:24:20, 1:24:21]: Uton Senior Center. [1:24:22, 1:24:26]: Right? That's correct. Doesn't discriminate, doesn't tell which la what party you are. [1:24:28, 1:24:29]: We all know. [1:24:29, 1:24:49]: When you get up there to Congress, do those two philosophies clash on a lot of things? And that was the reasoning behind, I think, why we got that recommendation that they could not fund it. And so therefore, we didn't go up there with the Cultural and Arts Center as project number one or project number two as we did last year. We went with the Uton Senior Center as we were told by his staff and by you. [1:24:49, 1:24:50]: Yeah. [1:24:50, 1:25:06]: Thank you, sir. And I do recall um when we met with Congressman Scott's office last year. They were specific. They did say anything pertaining to entertainment, culture, performing, they wouldn't be able to support it. So [1:25:06, 1:25:11]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. Thank you. You're welcome. All right. Motion is made and and second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:25:12, 1:25:12]: Uh oh. [1:25:13, 1:25:15]: Well the announced decision. Outstanding. Let's move on. [1:25:15, 1:25:21]: All right, all five voted for that. Fantastic. What a lovely day in the city stop bridge. [1:25:21, 1:25:27]: Announcements of upcoming events uh announcements of upcoming meetings and events. Upcoming meetings, events, council meetings [1:25:27, 1:25:28]: Yes, ma'am. [1:25:30, 1:25:30]: That's right. [1:25:31, 1:25:51]: I'm sorry. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. I'm sorry. Yes, Mayor, and uh we have just got a real serious safety issue uh on Eagles Landing Parkway. Stand by stand by one second. This deals with resurfacing section of Eagles Landing Parkway for discussing purposes, attitude agenda. Now Mr. Alexander, I'm sorry to cut you off. Go ahead, please. Yes, Mayor. I ask that this [1:25:51, 1:26:11]: be added in in consultation and sent out to council this information that we add this to the agenda uh in reference to the condition of Eagles Landing Parkway. Uh I need to we need the citizens to understand that we under we drive Eagles Landing Parkway, Hudson Bridge, and East Lake every day just like that. [1:26:10, 1:26:18]: They do. We understand that the condition that it's in, it is in an unacceptable condition at this point. [1:26:18, 1:26:38]: The state and the uh Henry County government, we went to them, uh, we partnered with them to apply for a$15 million grant in order to pave Eagles Landing Parkway, Hudson Bridge, and East Lake Parkway. That is, we should have an answer, I understand, by later this year or first part of next year. [1:26:38, 1:26:58]: But understanding there is a critical issue that exists right now. You cannot drive down Eagles Land and Parkway without going through the intersection at Eagle Point Parkway, right there at the main entrance to Piedmont Henry Hospital. [1:26:58, 1:27:18]: I knocked my car out of balance going through there. Uh luckily I didn't have a flat tire. I try to avoid that when I go through there. The city has previously filled in those holes many times, patching the potholes. But it was going to require that that section be cut out and that it actually [1:27:17, 1:27:37]: Be repaved that one intersection, not all of Eagles Landing Parkway, not all of uh uh that particular area, but certainly in that one area right there, uh, and staff will determine the amount, but that that that one section really needs to be cut out and repaved uh in anticipation of [1:27:37, 1:27:40]: the good news, hopefully that we'll get [1:27:40, 1:27:43]: that all of it'll be repaid. So this one little section here [1:27:43, 1:27:55]: will already be paved in anticipation of the additional funding coming. But people driving into our hospital should not have to encounter this level of [1:27:56, 1:28:14]: a safety issue. I've had people report to me that they blown a tire there, they damaged their rim there, and that there have been accidents there at this location where people know that those potholes are there and they try to swerve around it. So I'm calling on Mr Gardner, if you come to the podium, Mr Aaron. [1:28:25, 1:28:45]: Mr. Gardner, I know you live right over there. You've driven past it. I know you did everything that you could to try to secure funding. You and I have had numerous discussions, uh contacted the county about getting funding for this. But that particular area right there in front of the hospital is a minefield and filling in those holes, which we've done before. [1:28:45, 1:29:05]: Has been ineffective. So certainly I'm calling on you all to take the step, next step, such as we propose for Valley Hill Road, where particular sections will be cut out and repaved so that that does not return because that section has been patched. [1:29:05, 1:29:09]: numerous times and it continues to return. I like your comments on that. [1:29:10, 1:29:16]: Well so we we will definitely look at trying to determine it with the voter council what what that cost looks like. [1:29:17, 1:29:34]: And then obviously we'll have to figure out where those funds will come from and then have council vote on once we determine a f a funding source. Um but I will also say this this should be a collaborative effort. Once again, these roadways were under the jurisdiction [1:29:34, 1:29:37]: jurisdiction of of Henry Henry County. [1:29:37, 1:29:38]: And [1:29:38, 1:29:40]: As I think you stated. [1:29:40, 1:29:45]: It's not just city of Stockbridge residents driving Eagles Land and Parkway. [1:29:45, 1:30:05]: Um that's it's mean thoroughfare from east to west to the interstate and everyone whether you're unincorporated or incorporated residents drive that road. And so before we we can effort what that cost would be, I would ask I would request that we [1:30:05, 1:30:25]: get some buy-in from Henry County before we go solo on this. Mr. Gardner, th this issue is critical. I can't go and we can't go another uh few days without a resolution to this. We currently don't have a district for commissioner sitting in that seat right now. And we've been down that road. [1:30:25, 1:30:45]: We've been knocking on that door. I'm not talking about paving uh all of Eagles Landing Parkway, but that one section certainly is in the financial wherewithal of the city. There's additional funding, like as the funding that we moved from the uh trails that we use to pave um Walt Stevens and Mount Blind. [1:30:45, 1:31:05]: Which is undergoing right now. And there certainly is other T-Stos funding that can be temporarily appropriated until we get back to the final paving of this road. And there can be hopefully some resolution with the county at this point. But you can't go through there now without knocking your car out. [1:31:05, 1:31:25]: In alignment or risking a flat. It is that bad. These photos right here, they're older. It's actually worse today. And these Google Plus photos, they don't do it justice. And I've been through that numerous times. So I want us to go ahead and move forward with a repair now. The citizens don't want to hear, and they've been hearing their [1:31:25, 1:31:45]: It's forever. It's the county. It's the city. Everybody throwing it back and forth. They don't really care. They just want it fixed. So I'm calling on the city and this council to go ahead and fix it. And then we go to the table and figure out and eliminate the safety issue and go ahead and then go back to the county and see if we can resolve it between [1:31:45, 1:31:53]: the federal funds that we will receive uh at a later date. But a fix needs to be of needs to be approved now so we can move forward with it. [1:31:55, 1:32:03]: So otherwise you're just talking about a a a patch for this certain s intersection ver versus repaving right now. Just l like you see the intersection. Show the whole intersection. [1:32:04, 1:32:24]: You see there where the yellow line is? Right, right. And that row, we would start right there. We would cut that whole section out to the ground where they scrape it like they do, like they're gonna do a repaving. And then they would go back over and then they would repave that section right there uh itself in those in that in that square box, right at that on the four side. [1:32:24, 1:32:44]: Of that intersection would be repaved. It would be just like an official repaving. The trucks would go out there and scrape up all that existing concrete that keeps failing, and then they would put down a new concrete layer down there, like we're doing on Valley Hill Road. They're picking out particular sections on Valley Hill Road, they're going to cut those sections. [1:32:44, 1:32:58]: out and then they're gonna talk they're gonna repave those. That's a permanent fix, not the temporary fix that we've been doing. Okay. Out of curiosity, when would when we uh when is this supposed to be done for the entire row supposed to be done anyway? Just out of curiosity here. [1:32:59, 1:33:11]: Uh well based on the IGA with uh Henry County they're proposing sometime towards the end of the year. Of end of this year? Yes. But please keep in mind whatever we do [1:33:12, 1:33:32]: It's gonna be torn up when they resurface the road. So we're investing money for a temporary fix that's it's gonna be when they start milling the road to resurface, all of that's gonna come back out. We gotta fix what's there today. What is the solution to fixing what's there today? So what costs are we talking about expending to [1:33:32, 1:33:40]: The only other option would be I'm sorry, the only option would be to fill the potholes, right? Other than scraping the whole world out? Is that the only other option that they can utilize? [1:33:41, 1:33:58]: Uh it's just that like say if you go in and mill as Councilman Alexander is proposing and you make that repair, when the county when we do that project to resurface Eagles Landing and Hudson Bridge, they're gonna mill the whole road anyway. Mr Mr Aaron, with all due respect. [1:33:58, 1:34:08]: You you don't have you don't even have to do the whole intersection. You could just cut those sections out and do that section in a square instead of filling in the holes, right? [1:34:09, 1:34:10]: I said they got to redo it. [1:34:12, 1:34:32]: What's the most efficient way to do this without wasting a whole lot of money if we're going to repay the whole thing in several months from now? Stand by. So what's the most efficient way? What's your recommendation? I would recommend that we get our engineers to make an assessment of it and what sections need to be repaired versus if we just decide it's that location, because if you do that location, [1:34:32, 1:34:41]: Then ten feet beyond that or twenty feet beyond that, there's some issue, then somebody gonna say, Well, why didn't you do that whole section? So I would [1:34:42, 1:34:50]: recommend that we let our engineers go out and do an assessment and then they give us a price based on what we're paying right now for our current LMIG. [1:34:50, 1:35:05]: Well we're paying for quantities of asphalt and milling and things like that, then we can come back and present a a figure to counter. Well this is what it's gonna cost to to make this repair. I'm okay with that. All right, good miss Ms. Barber. Go ahead please. [1:35:06, 1:35:16]: And I was gonna ask if we could just task staff with doing their due diligence and bringing back to us estimated costs along with the recommended funding source. Please. [1:35:16, 1:35:21]: I believe that's what he just recommended. I think Mr. Al Jones says that sounds good to him in this aspect. Is that correct? [1:35:22, 1:35:29]: And Mayor. Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. My concern is having a redo. If they if we pay for something, I don't want it to be [1:35:29, 1:35:29]: [5730.0, 5737.1]: done up dug up. So if that is if that is a guarantee that's what's gonna happen, then we need a [1:35:37, 1:35:44]: Plan B, I need another solution because I'm not gonna spend money to and then at the end of the year they're gonna tear it up. [1:35:44, 1:35:50]: It's not gonna work. Yeah, and any parts work as as as Jester said, any parts work that we do now. [1:35:50, 1:36:10]: When they do redo that road, they're going to tear that road down to base all the way through. Include whatever we patched. But we we can't leave it like it is, Mr. I understand that. We don't want to spend a lot of money. We just got but it's gotta be fixed. Councilman Alexander, I listen, me of all people, with Walt Stevens and the way Mount Zion wrote. [1:36:10, 1:36:12]: Yeah, yeah. [1:36:13, 1:36:15]: Busting her ties left and right. [1:36:16, 1:36:17]: I [1:36:18, 1:36:20]: Totally understand. [1:36:20, 1:36:31]: I totally understand and I'm hoping no guarantee that this road is gonna be paved at the end. I'm just saying I hope that we can come to some type of solution. I'm also, you know, pleading with the county. [1:36:32, 1:36:35]: Come on, somebody meet us halfway somewhere. [1:36:35, 1:36:55]: So at some point in time. So what I'm an actual fact, I was um texting the county manager. I will I know they are at their staff retreat, um, but I will definitely we will effort that cost, look at what funding, but we will I will also make another request to say, can you guys go in with us on this to reduce the burden? [1:36:55, 1:37:15]: burden, cost burden on us with the understanding that this is this this road is gonna get torn out. We shouldn't be the ones bearing it. So if the cost is five hundred thousand, would they be willing to go two hundred, two hundred if we come up with a funding source to do it. But if they don't, then we will look at what's the most cost effective way to fix the problem. [1:37:15, 1:37:21]: And bring those solutions back to you. Right. But j I'm just letting you know, if they gonna tear it back up, I'm not spending money for them to tear something up. [1:37:21, 1:37:25]: We gotta find the solution and I get it. I'm with you with that. [1:37:25, 1:37:29]: But maybe we need to meet with a ca I don't know, whatever we gotta do. [1:37:29, 1:37:32]: There needs to be a solution. The road is bad. [1:37:33, 1:37:53]: Mr. Berry, go ahead, please. Yeah. Uh I was just gonna add to that. Can we get at least I know you said you're gonna come back with the best or or the most economical solution. Can we come back with at least two or three options so we can have a a choice to make the best decision? Because just like Councilwoman uh Gantt just stated, I'm not in favor of blowing money only to dig striker. [1:37:53, 1:38:08]: Or at least like to have options to decide from what what's best moving forward. We will we will do that and we will give our recommended what we think is should be the approach to go and then leave it to council to make that final. Council when you get back to us, sir. All right. So Mayor. [1:38:09, 1:38:29]: How how soon? Okay, I'm sorry, I thought you were here. How soon can you get back to us? What's uh opposition? We'll be making that phone call tomorrow morning. Um and hopefully we'll be able to have something here for the next city council meeting. Which is correspondence to council ahead of time. Which is a couple weeks now. Which is I think the April eighth is the next week. Right, so a few weeks. Yeah. Okay. All right. [1:38:28, 1:38:46]: Right. Everybody else good? Okay. Yes. Oh, I'm gonna make a motion to that? Go right here please. We'll make a motion to uh go with the staff recommendations to bring back an engineering assessment of the troublesome area in front of P. My Henry along Eagles Landing Parkway. [1:38:46, 1:39:06]: Is there a second emotion? My second. Ms. Gantt second that. All in favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision. Thank you very much. All right, now we'll move on here. Upcoming meetings and announcements, council meeting will be held. The city council chamber meeting dates and location times are subject to change. 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And once again, even though spring has sprung, there's always a chance, unfortunately, to have flu or even to get COVID-19. So make sure you stay healthy and get your boosters. And just make frequent visits to the hospital for your doctor to make sure you're nice and healthy. [1:42:45, 1:42:51]: On that note, there is no executive session that I know of, so I will ask for a motion to end our meeting. [1:42:52, 1:42:54]: So Mr. Barasomo, is there a second? [1:42:54, 1:42:56]: I second. Miss again a second. [1:42:57, 1:42:59]: We are now our turn. God bless you.