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--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2024-01-08 source: 2024-01-08_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:12:06, 0:12:26]: Any unaccountable public money? Any unaccountable public money. Do unpayable to the state. Do and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold. Nor do I hold. Any other office of trust? Any other office of trust of the government of the United States. [0:12:26, 0:12:46]: United States of the government of the United States of this state of this state or any foreign state as prescribed as prescribed by the law by the law of the state of Georgia of the State of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge of the City of Stockbridge. In the best of my ability, in the best of my ability. [0:12:46, 0:13:00]: Without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, affection, reward, reward, expectations there are. And this is the eighth day of January, 2024. On this eighth day of January, 2024. Congratulations. Thank you. [0:13:00, 0:13:01]: [783.0, 784.0]: All right. [0:13:05, 0:13:05]: Okay. [0:13:06, 0:13:18]: Now we all signed this document by w we can uh cut into time. If you have any particular comments, please go ahead and do that in time. Okay. [0:13:19, 0:13:22]: I'm I'm happy to help. You want to say something passive? [0:13:22, 0:13:29]: Uh just wanted to say I'm happy to help. I've been a resident of Stockbury since two thousand one and I'm looking forward to helping out. [0:13:32, 0:13:42]: Um this is my second term. It's been a pleasure working for the city of Stockbridge, most um importantly with the youth, and I'm just ready for another two years. Thank you. [0:13:43, 0:13:45]: Thank you for your service. Thank you. [0:13:49, 0:13:56]: Did uh you did you want to say anything? You're good? All right, all right. So yeah, you all can come forward and sign these documents, please. [0:13:57, 0:14:00]: Yeah, I think we'll ask it okay. [0:14:34, 0:14:36]: [877.4, 897.0]: If you're done, that'll be fine. You can be more than welcome to stay as long as you like. Thank you. Okay, you're welcome. Okay. Ms. Holiday, if we have to give you a document that once everything is. Oh yeah, okay. Downtown Defense Authority, Mr. Warren Washington, are you here sir? No. Mr. Washington? [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: Robert Anderson. [0:15:03, 0:15:05]: Ms. Mayor? [0:15:08, 0:15:09]: Yeah. [0:15:09, 0:15:15]: Darrow stamper? I got this done right? [0:15:18, 0:15:24]: Okay, okay. Well wait a minute. So you're only a tank was sorry. So [0:15:26, 0:15:32]: We'll wait just a little bit to rest specifically for what people want to stand by what's the what? [0:15:33, 0:15:39]: See here. Okay. Main Street Advisory Board. Um [0:15:40, 0:15:41]: Then the Jones. [0:15:42, 0:15:43]: Okay, there we go. [0:15:44, 0:15:45]: Right. [0:15:47, 0:15:50]: This is first salari. [0:15:56, 0:15:57]: Vanessa Gibson? [0:16:10, 0:16:18]: Okay. If I'm just going that way. Good. [0:16:19, 0:16:20]: [982.4, 986.3]: Okay, here's that one go through. [0:16:29, 0:16:30]: How do you? [0:16:32, 0:16:35]: So [0:16:35, 0:16:40]: [1002.9, 1004.2]: Yeah, yeah. [0:16:51, 0:16:51]: Yeah. [0:16:55, 0:16:57]: Right. [0:17:00, 0:17:03]: You're Miss Brunett, right? I am. You are. [0:17:05, 0:17:25]: Good job. All right. So you you've you've all been down this road before, so we're gonna go down do this. So everybody raise your right hand. Okay. Here we go. I and state your name. I'm the presence. Board member. Board member. Do you solemnly swear and affirm? Do you sold me swear and confirm? That will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the main street of [0:17:25, 0:17:45]: Advisory board. The duties of the Main Street Advisory Board. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will. And that I will to the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend the chair excuse me, the charter thereof. The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. As well as the constitution. And the laws of the state of Georgia. And the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:17:45, 0:18:05]: United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. Any unaccounted for public money. Do unpayable to the state. Do or payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. [0:18:05, 0:18:25]: The city of Stockbridge or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold any other office of trust of trust of the government of the United States. Of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, if ascribed by the law of the state of Georgia. [0:18:25, 0:18:45]: I'll perform my du excuse me. I will perform the duties. I will be of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge of the City of Stockbridge in the best of my ability. Without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, affection, reward, reward, or expectation thereof. Expectation thereof. [0:18:44, 0:18:49]: January twenty twenty four. [0:19:00, 0:19:01]: Oh thank you. [0:19:05, 0:19:09]: Then we need to do that. [0:19:10, 0:19:14]: Camille, can you bring us the ice herbs? [0:19:15, 0:19:15]: This is OS here. [0:19:17, 0:19:20]: Try you. [0:19:29, 0:19:46]: Met your met your partner at Queen King Auditor. Why we're doing this, does anybody you don't have to go yet do anything you want to say to the audience here? In reference, please? Do you have the words of wisdom? [0:19:46, 0:19:55]: I know. How deep can we go? Uh I just wanna say I've been a member of this board since twenty fifteen, from its exception inception. It's been a pleasure to serve and [0:19:55, 0:20:04]: We are looking forward to continue to grow and have our downtown continue to be identifiable and the best in the county of Henry. Thank you. [0:20:06, 0:20:16]: Uh good evening. I'm Andrea Burnett and I represent the board for my small business powerhouse pest control. It is indeed a privilege to serve and we appreciate the opportunity. [0:20:18, 0:20:32]: I'm Linda Jones. I've been on the board since twenty fifteen and it is a privilege to serve and connect with the community. I am a downtown owner of CNL Beauty Salon and I also own a nonprofit, which is feeding God's people. Thank you. [0:20:35, 0:20:38]: Good even good evening, distinguished citizens. How y'all doing? [0:20:40, 0:20:51]: Uh my name is Willie Hopkins. Uh this is my third term on the board and I get to serve as the chairman of Main Street Advisor Board. I would say we will continue to be the hardest working board in the city of Stockbridge. [0:20:51, 0:20:58]: To help revitalize downtown and continue to support the council as they set forth their vision for this city. Thank you. [0:21:05, 0:21:08]: Ms. George from Sean, are you here? [0:21:12, 0:21:17]: And uh this coming cut. [0:21:20, 0:21:23]: Yeah, uh [0:21:25, 0:21:32]: So we once again um [0:21:33, 0:21:35]: Downtown a little authority. [0:21:35, 0:21:36]: Spend it. [0:21:37, 0:21:38]: Want to come up our circle? [0:21:38, 0:21:40]: Good. [0:21:46, 0:21:47]: It's meant to. [0:21:48, 0:21:48]: Just go. [0:21:49, 0:21:49]: See that. [0:21:50, 0:21:51]: Yeah, just try to see. [0:21:52, 0:21:53]: Robert Edison. [0:21:56, 0:21:57]: I mean Mr. Washington is. [0:22:05, 0:22:06]: And so [0:22:07, 0:22:15]: Okay. Alright, so I guess what we'll do by yourself at this point. Okay. [0:22:15, 0:22:20]: Uh raise your right hand and s uh repeat after me. I state your name. I Daryl State. [0:22:20, 0:22:40]: Board member? Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the downtown development authority. The duties of the downtown development authority. Of the city of Stockbridge. That I will to the best of my ability. Support and defend the charter thereof. The charter thereof as well as the constitution. As well as the constitution. [0:22:40, 0:22:45]: And United States of America. [0:22:45, 0:23:05]: I further affirm that that upon assumption of this office I do not hold any that I do not hold any any counterforward public money counterforward public money due and payable to the stateable to the state any political subdivision of the state any political subdivision the city of Stockbridge or any authority thereof nor do I hold [0:23:05, 0:23:25]: Any other office of trust? Any other office of trust of the government of the government of the United States? Of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, or any foreign state, as prescribed, as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. I solemnly affirm. I solemnly affirmly affirm that I'm fate that I'm fully qualified. Yeah, I'm fully qualified. Under the Constitution. [0:23:25, 0:23:34]: And the laws of the state to hold the office of the downtown development authority board member. To hold the office of the downtown development board member. [0:23:34, 0:23:54]: And that I and that I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability without fear without fear favor affection reward or expectation thereof or expectation thereof eighth day of January 2024. Eighth day of January 2024. [0:23:54, 0:23:56]: I'd like to thank you, sir. Okay. [0:23:57, 0:23:57]: Yeah. [0:23:59, 0:24:01]: It's very good. [0:24:05, 0:24:08]: want to address two audience here and uh wizard you might have [0:24:09, 0:24:20]: Um so I've been um in Henry County since twenty twenty one. Um I'm just happy to be a pillar in the community. Um and thanks for having me. [0:24:21, 0:24:23]: Thank you, sir. [0:24:30, 0:24:31]: What about it? [0:24:32, 0:24:36]: So is Mr. Collins or uh is George uh [0:24:36, 0:24:40]: Arrived yet? Mr. Collins and Mr. Joel. [0:24:42, 0:24:49]: Okay? Ms. Bannison, Miss Merritt, or Mr. Warren Washington. [0:24:51, 0:24:55]: Yeah, you can bring it better. [0:25:10, 0:25:13]: And you can see that. [0:25:20, 0:25:25]: We can either make up all the rest of those or do we miss them? [0:25:25, 0:25:30]: Right, so yeah, [0:25:41, 0:25:45]: Right. [0:25:46, 0:25:47]: Yeah. [0:25:50, 0:25:51]: You do that. [0:25:53, 0:25:56]: Is it wrong? [0:25:59, 0:26:03]: Oh yeah, we we talked about that today, we talked about just problem. [0:26:04, 0:26:05]: Yeah. [0:26:26, 0:26:34]: All right, please uh stand by folks. We have a couple other things we need to do and before we get started. It's a mother swearing copy, please. [0:26:55, 0:26:58]: Okay, so just [0:27:00, 0:27:01]: Yeah. [0:27:04, 0:27:10]: Happy birthday Dr. K. Thank you for being wonderful women still. Thank you for being [0:27:43, 0:27:44]: I don't see. [0:28:42, 0:28:45]: [1734.2, 1737.9]: Yeah, we're gonna be able to do that. [0:29:40, 0:29:50]: I think this is my bag. This is my that's fine. Yeah. So right click on that exact. [0:32:22, 0:32:25]: Yes there. [0:32:52, 0:32:53]: That was a [0:33:47, 0:33:49]: Yeah, yeah. [0:34:16, 0:34:18]: Oh yeah, please. [0:34:19, 0:34:20]: Don't be in the dog. [0:34:36, 0:34:37]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. [0:34:38, 0:34:40]: The council's in place. [0:34:45, 0:34:49]: Ladies and gentlemen, please, I want to call the our council meeting. [0:34:49, 0:34:55]: January eighth, first meeting of our calendar year of twenty twenty four. [0:34:56, 0:35:16]: I'm calling the meeting to order. Happy New Year to everybody. And uh and uh I look forward as well as the council and I imagine you all look forward to a very prosperous uh prosperous new year in the city of Stockbridge. And the first order of business will be the swearing in of uh council members Ellen Alexander, Yolanda Barber and Mr. Kyle Berry. [0:35:16, 0:35:17]: And uh [0:35:17, 0:35:22]: Judge McCord, sir, please come forward and i in issue that uh oath of office. [0:35:26, 0:35:28]: Okay. Come on down please. [0:36:00, 0:36:01]: Yeah. [0:36:01, 0:36:21]: All right, if you will raise your right hand for me and repeat after me. I state your name. I shall be do solemnly swear or affirm. Do solemnly swear or affirm. That I will faithfully perform the duties. That I will faithfully perform the duties. Of council member of the city of Stockbridge. Council member of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will to the best. [0:36:21, 0:36:41]: Of my ability. That I will to the best of my ability. Support and defend the charter thereof. Support and defend the charter thereof. As well as the Constitution and Laws of the State of Georgia. As well as the Constitution and Laws of the State of Georgia. And the United States of America. And the United States of America. I further affirm that upon assumption of this office. [0:36:41, 0:36:50]: Further affirm that upon assumption of this office, I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. [0:36:50, 0:37:10]: Due and payable to the state. Due and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Any authority thereof. Nor do I hold any other office of trust. Nor do I hold any other office of trust of the government of the United States. [0:37:10, 0:37:21]: government of the United States, of this state, or this state, or any foreign state, or any foreign state, as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. As prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia. [0:37:21, 0:37:41]: I solemnly affirmly affirm that I'm fully qualified under the constitution and laws of the state of the state to hold the office of council members of council member and that I have been a resident and that I have been a resident of the city of Stockbridge for the entire [0:37:41, 0:38:01]: Period of time required by the Constitution and laws of the state of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability to the best of my ability whether [0:38:01, 0:38:10]: Without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, affection, reward, reward or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. Congratulations. [0:38:27, 0:38:33]: Let's just do a lot of things. [0:38:35, 0:38:36]: Okay, so what happened? [0:38:38, 0:38:48]: So you okay, it says appointment of you, second assistance okay, appointment of the city auditor, you said appointment only to the judge and solicitor, that's honest. City attorney. [0:38:50, 0:38:54]: Wait, wait, wait no wa wa hold on a second. [0:39:19, 0:39:28]: No off a whole biblical number you would set. No take the trend. [0:39:30, 0:39:31]: Just keep it across it. [0:39:48, 0:39:51]: Pastor Gaddis? Pastor Gaddis present? [0:39:54, 0:39:55]: Okay. [0:39:59, 0:40:01]: Yes sir. [0:40:01, 0:40:08]: Well actually that's what was coming next. That was actually coming next. Mr. Berry, I need for you to give the invocation, sir. Okay. [0:40:11, 0:40:13]: Ple the invocation, please stand folks if you can. [0:40:18, 0:40:20]: That was three. [0:40:20, 0:40:40]: Dear God, tonight we thank you for the city of Stockbridge and all of its residents, the leadership. Lord, we ask that you would order our footsteps in your word. Lord, we need you to be sovereign over every action that we take because you alone, Lord God, are worthy of every praise. And so tonight, Lord God, we ask that all the affairs of every business [0:40:40, 0:40:50]: matter for the city of Stockbridge be done with you in mind. That we keep you first and we give all purpose and all honor and all glory to your majestic name. [0:40:52, 0:41:12]: So in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. To the Pledge of Allegiance, Pledge Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:41:11, 0:41:12]: Yeah. [0:41:14, 0:41:15]: Roll call, please. [0:41:23, 0:41:37]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Barber. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Berry. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilman Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a form. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. [0:41:38, 0:41:43]: Okay. Um council I need adoption uh to the agenda for this evening, please. [0:41:45, 0:41:46]: Is there so move? [0:41:47, 0:41:48]: There's there a second. [0:41:48, 0:41:51]: A second. Okay, Ms. Barber, second. All in favor, please indicate. [0:41:51, 0:41:52]: Okay, thank you very much. [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: What you have before you council would be the [0:41:56, 0:42:10]: Adoption of the minutes from a council meeting November thirteenth, the council work session November twenty eighth, and also the December work uh council meeting, December eleventh. If there are any changes, I need a motion to accept those into the record. [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: Is there a second? [0:42:15, 0:42:23]: Okay, Ms. Barrett, Mr. Berry, second half from Alexander, Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate? Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Madam Clerk, do we have any uh [0:42:23, 0:42:25]: Public comments at all. [0:42:25, 0:42:45]: Public comment mayor. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, you all most likely, if you hear earlier, you witnessed um our ceremonial process uh for the month of dis of January and we had several different appointments that were made besides a swearing excuse me besides the uh actual reading of the proclamation. [0:42:45, 0:42:46]: For Martin Luther King. [0:42:46, 0:42:47]: Holiday. [0:42:48, 0:42:48]: And as you [0:42:49, 0:43:05]: most likely know that Stockbridge is the ancestral home of the King family, so we're extremely proud of the fact that we have a national holiday for one of our nation's histories that has his roots embedded in Stockbridge right here in Henry County. And so I just um in a sense would ask [0:43:06, 0:43:26]: That if if you please, during the course of this holiday weekend, uh get out and enjoy and and uh the holidays and be a public service and uh serve in a sense uh or assist some other folks and like Dr. King would in this aspect to at least um take part in that particular holiday activities. There's a lot of different activities going [0:43:25, 0:43:28]: going on during the course of the of the holiday weekend. [0:43:30, 0:43:50]: Um we have several different um swah swearing ins for board members that uh have taken on uh responsible different responsibilities uh within the uh the city and so the downtown development authority uh we're here, uh youth council, the the actual youth council, advisory [0:43:49, 0:44:09]: Youth Advisory Council, the Citywide, Citywide Authority, Development Authority. Appreciate your service to our to our city. [0:44:09, 0:44:29]: I believe uh and of course our council members are sworn in for their four-year terms as well. Um I believe I got all the all those boards in this aspect, but uh thank you for being here and thank you for serving. Um what we have going on next would be organizational appointments and the first would be [0:44:29, 0:44:39]: the appointment of our city clerk. Um there's a motion to appoint our city clerk uh for another year, which was currently Vanessa Holiday. [0:44:39, 0:44:55]: Mayor. Yep. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. So moved. Is there a second? Ms. Barber second. All favor, please indicate? Unanimous decision. All right, then uh our executive assistant to mayor council, Miss Rosalind Rawls. Is there a motion to appoint her for an for another year? [0:44:56, 0:45:09]: So moved. Okay, is there a second? Second. Mr. Alzheimer's secondat from Kant Alzheimer, all in favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision. Thank you very much. A city auditor. Is there a motion? Yes, sir. [0:45:10, 0:45:19]: I motion to place the auditor out for bid to be brought back to the city council for selection at the March fourth council meeting. [0:45:20, 0:45:25]: All right. Uh Miss Barber, second that. Uh arm in favor, please indicate. [0:45:26, 0:45:28]: Okay, all okay, all pose? [0:45:29, 0:45:43]: Sustain? I abstain. Okay. And and I abstain for several reasons. I've never seen us appoint a city auditor at our first council meeting. So I do have some concerns and a lot of things were just kind of thrown in at the last minute. [0:45:43, 0:46:01]: Okay, Mr. Alexander, do you you you were you for, against, or sustained? I vote against it. Excuse me? I voted against it. Okay, so it's 311. Uh the motion uh passes to uh to put this out for bid and have come back on March 4th, you said sir. Is that correct? That is correct. Okay. All righty. Uh let's see here. [0:46:02, 0:46:13]: Appointment of our city attorney. And so Mr. Washington and it is law firm, uh Dyer law firm and Samantha is part of that uh firm. Is there a motion to uh to approve this? [0:46:17, 0:46:25]: I motion to approve um Mr. Quentin Washington and and Dry what is it, Washington and Dryer? Dreer? [0:46:26, 0:46:32]: Washington and dryer associates. Second. Okay, Mr. I was asking all in favor, please indicate. All opposed? [0:46:32, 0:46:39]: I abstain. I have some concerns, questions that I've asked that have not been addressed. [0:46:41, 0:46:43]: Okay, four zero one the motion passed. [0:46:44, 0:46:45]: Thank you. [0:46:45, 0:46:50]: Alrighty, and then uh selection of the mayor pro tem. Council? [0:46:51, 0:46:58]: Mayor Floor. Yes, Mayor. I'd like to make a motion to appoint um Councilman Derrick. [0:46:59, 0:47:00]: Okay, yeah. [0:47:01, 0:47:02]: Okay. [0:47:03, 0:47:15]: Mr okay. Um all right. From uh for Councilman Berry it goes from um uh Mayor uh well uh Landa Barmer to uh Father Thomas, uh council members. All right, any further discussion? [0:47:16, 0:47:17]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [0:47:18, 0:47:23]: Um we had a discussion on email today in regards to the way things went. [0:47:24, 0:47:44]: And I love Councilman Berry and n no offense to you, Councilman Berry, but we've had a particular rotation in order. And I believe that my last time being on as Mayor Pro Tem was in twenty eighteen. And after me is Councilman Blount, which Councilman Berry is taking [0:47:44, 0:47:56]: his position. And so I would ask council to consider, um, my councilmates, Councilman Berry and Councilman Alexander, to and as well as others to consider us continuing to stay in that order. [0:47:57, 0:47:58]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. [0:47:59, 0:47:59]: Wait, please. [0:48:01, 0:48:11]: There is no reference of in the charter. There's no reference of a rotation [0:48:12, 0:48:15]: There is no policy of such. [0:48:16, 0:48:18]: The charter says [0:48:19, 0:48:21]: The council shall [0:48:22, 0:48:23]: A point [0:48:24, 0:48:25]: Amir Pro Team. [0:48:27, 0:48:28]: I believe [0:48:29, 0:48:31]: That the intent [0:48:33, 0:48:34]: Of our forefathers. [0:48:35, 0:48:36]: With this [0:48:37, 0:48:39]: Was to make sure that the [0:48:40, 0:48:42]: The castle. [0:48:43, 0:48:45]: Selected someone [0:48:46, 0:49:04]: that they feel was appropriate for the position. I I think this is why they left it that way. Um a person that the consensus of the council um would approve. Um [0:49:05, 0:49:06]: Respect it. [0:49:07, 0:49:08]: Qualifications. [0:49:09, 0:49:10]: Capability [0:49:11, 0:49:12]: Etcetera, et cetera. [0:49:13, 0:49:15]: And I believe this is why. [0:49:16, 0:49:17]: The forefathers. [0:49:18, 0:49:20]: wrote this that way. [0:49:21, 0:49:24]: And it again, it only says [0:49:25, 0:49:27]: The council shall [0:49:28, 0:49:29]: A point. [0:49:30, 0:49:31]: Amir Pro Tem. [0:49:31, 0:49:33]: There's not a policy. [0:49:34, 0:49:35]: Anywhere [0:49:35, 0:49:55]: That speaks to rotation. Thank you. Mayor. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Certainly, my contention is there needs to be a policy. Politics needs to be removed from the ceremonial position. It needs to be rotated around so that, you know, I personally I speak for myself. Six years I served on this council. [0:49:55, 0:50:15]: And it was not designated to me because of politics. That should never ever ever happen again. No one should ever be in that position. It should rotate around. And I would ask that my colleagues consider setting the policy so that it is all that way uh in the future. I certainly would [0:50:14, 0:50:34]: uh encourage uh us to do that to establish that so that no one is set up here because my friend said that I should be mayor pro tem, I should be mayor pro tem, or I don't like you, you shouldn't be mayor pro tem. The county commissioners set that bar and they rotate it every year, whether it's a Republican or a [0:50:34, 0:50:54]: Democrat or whomever it is, they rotated every year. I think we should establish that precedence as well. And the ranking order should be Miss Gantt, then Mr. Berry, then that would be followed up with myself, and then that would be Councilman Thomas, and then that would be Miss Barber, who is the current. [0:50:54, 0:51:14]: Mayor Pro Tem. That should be the protocol. We shouldn't have people seeking this position in the election year and that kind of thing. It should be rotated around and those positions should be elected. And I and I call on the council to execute that and that hus to be in uh so [0:51:14, 0:51:27]: [3087.3, 3094.2]: By the charter, the mayor pro tem functions in the capacity of the mayor, yours truly, happens to be not available. [0:51:34, 0:51:54]: incapacitated, uh if I didn't want to do something and the council needed to act on an issue, that individual would act in in that capacity. Uh now six years thus far being the mayor, the mayor pro tem has not functioned that often and because I've been present uh primarily in meetings, I very soft would mates in the meetings or any other act [0:51:54, 0:52:14]: Actions that I have to occur to. But that's what the mayor pro tem does. It's an appointment by the council to function in that capacity, to be like the vice mayor per se, for those actions that for some reason I am not able to execute or execute my duties and responsibilities. [0:52:14, 0:52:18]: Mr. Thomas Quare, please. Thank you. Uh Mayor Ford. [0:52:19, 0:52:20]: When I [0:52:21, 0:52:23]: put something out to [0:52:25, 0:52:27]: Motion to discuss this. [0:52:28, 0:52:31]: I was told by my colleague [0:52:31, 0:52:35]: that we should discuss this in executive session. [0:52:36, 0:52:38]: But I see now that [0:52:40, 0:52:42]: Council wants to discuss this. [0:52:43, 0:52:45]: I pulled back on my emotions. [0:52:46, 0:52:48]: Because I respect it. [0:52:49, 0:52:50]: Council's concern. [0:52:51, 0:52:52]: Two [0:52:53, 0:52:56]: discuss how we select [0:52:56, 0:52:59]: the mayor pro tem in executive session. [0:52:59, 0:53:02]: So I would respectfully [0:53:04, 0:53:05]: Encourage counsel. [0:53:06, 0:53:10]: to take the advice that was given to me. Thank you, sir. [0:53:10, 0:53:11]: All right. [0:53:12, 0:53:16]: Any other comments since uh talking going down this road? [0:53:16, 0:53:17]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:53:19, 0:53:23]: That's okay. Mayor Protein. I mean Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [0:53:23, 0:53:43]: I don't know what we're talking about about executive session as far as the mayor pro tem is concerned. Um, I we have went through this and we actually if you go back and look at some of our videos and meetings and other minutes, even though it's written in the charter that we are to select a mayor pro tem, we have agreed. [0:53:43, 0:53:51]: To rotate. In fact, last year we the year before last we stated that it was Councilwoman Barber's turn. [0:53:51, 0:53:55]: And Councilwoman Barber said, Well, I elect not to do it that term. [0:53:56, 0:54:10]: And so we had begun a process. And so I'm gonna ask you, Mayor, um, if you don't recall that we agreed that we were gonna start rotating. Um, I believe you've spoken to me this year and stated this past year and stated that this year would be [0:54:11, 0:54:12]: Um my turn. [0:54:13, 0:54:33]: And I feel kind of child it feels kind of childish to come up here and have to go back. It's kind of a a insult. I've been on council for eleven years, um uh a local attorney, and uh you Councilman Thomas, you yourself have voted on items based off of my word that contract agreements are okay. [0:54:33, 0:54:47]: And so I've done I've helped you with your campaigns and help you with some legal matters and I honestly believe that I'm qualified for this position at this time. And so what I'm here to say is I think [0:54:47, 0:54:48]: That [0:54:48, 0:54:50]: I agree with Councilman Alexander. [0:54:51, 0:54:58]: There's no I'm not going to sling mud here. I'm not in the position to do that. I think that [0:54:59, 0:55:00]: As I've written [0:55:01, 0:55:03]: In the emails just recently [0:55:04, 0:55:06]: Twenty twenty four. [0:55:06, 0:55:19]: We need to stop the alliances. It's not about alliances. It's about doing the alliance of what's in the best interest of Stockbridge. And so with that, I just want you to take that into consideration. [0:55:20, 0:55:40]: All right. On that note, yes, Mr. Thomas is right. There's nothing outlined in the charter that indicates that. Once once again, on the second note, uh you are right. I didn't mention before in this aspect that somehow over the course of time it has rotated. It's unofficial in a sense, it's not an official type of policy, has rotated different council members over the course of the years. And yes, I did mention to you that figure [0:55:40, 0:56:00]: So yes, I did say that, and yes, that is supportable, but you know it's up to the will of the council. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure. Right. Mayor Ford. It has been moved and seconded. Yes, I have been, but I don't know. [0:56:00, 0:56:02]: I got it. It has me. Yes, Mr. Berry, go ahead, please. [0:56:02, 0:56:22]: Just for comment sake, uh I will say this. I know you said that it was stated, it was agreed upon in word indeed is not a part of the policy, but if in fact this council did agree on it and their words are their words, ethics and integrity must matter. They must matter. And so even if it's not in policy, even if it was stated in an [0:56:22, 0:56:28]: agreement uh ethics matter and so I would put that out as uh my [0:56:28, 0:56:30]: Official position. [0:56:30, 0:56:32]: That if we say something it it should mean something. [0:56:33, 0:56:48]: Okay, sir. Um I wa yeah, because we need to move on, folks. We got a public hearing we need to take care of. There's got plenty of folks right here for the public hearing. Uh stamp stand by. Stand by. Ms. Barber, go ahead. [0:56:48, 0:56:56]: Okay, so I want us to move on from this. Okay. But I will say when um I came on board. [0:56:56, 0:56:57]: My first term. [0:56:58, 0:57:01]: When this whole idea of rotating the mere pro chim. [0:57:02, 0:57:02]: Um [0:57:03, 0:57:06]: I don't believe Councilwoman Gantt supported it. [0:57:07, 0:57:09]: She didn't support it because [0:57:09, 0:57:12]: It was Councilman Alexander's turn. [0:57:14, 0:57:18]: I don't support rotating the mirror protein because [0:57:19, 0:57:22]: Whenever we have an election you have a new [0:57:22, 0:57:24]: person on the council. [0:57:25, 0:57:28]: That new person may not necessarily be comfortable. [0:57:28, 0:57:29]: As of yet. [0:57:30, 0:57:31]: Mr. Bear certainly is. [0:57:32, 0:57:36]: That is why I feel comfortable and confident in his ability. [0:57:37, 0:57:38]: If the council [0:57:38, 0:57:40]: In their discussions prior to [0:57:41, 0:57:42]: Tonight's meeting. [0:57:42, 0:57:43]: Agreed. [0:57:44, 0:57:45]: It didn't include me. [0:57:46, 0:57:49]: Nonetheless, I don't support rotating it. [0:57:51, 0:57:53]: Нали що ви консир [0:57:53, 0:57:56]: rotating as a way to be fair. [0:57:57, 0:57:58]: There are other factors we need to consider. [0:57:59, 0:58:00]: Not just rotating. [0:58:01, 0:58:02]: The title. [0:58:02, 0:58:04]: It's not about a title for me. [0:58:06, 0:58:26]: So that's all. I'd like for us to move forward with the motion that's already on the floor. Please. I appreciate that. We do need to move on. Yeah. Okay, Mr. Alessander. Yeah, I'd just like to call on Mr. Berry to make the decision. We certainly need to move forward from this. I'd ask him that you respectfully ask Mr. Thomas to withdraw the motion so that we [0:58:26, 0:58:46]: Can nominate Miss Gantt so we don't have to vote. I don't think we should vote on this. I think we certainly wouldn't want to vote negative or or affirmative. Uh Mayor Pro Tem should be really should be five to zero. And that's why I said we should get the politics out of this. This is a game. This is not a game. We should make it and [0:58:46, 0:59:03]: in the terms that it is, it should be five to zero every time. It should rotate s uh systematically to the next person and it should be a five to zero vote. I understand the politics of the past when the Mayor Pro Tem position was withheld from me. [0:59:03, 0:59:23]: I respect the fact that Ms. Gatt has now seen and understands that, you know what, when the votes are on the other side, it matters. And from this point forward, that means that we're making a step forward, which is she agrees that from now this point forward, every person should rotate this. [0:59:23, 0:59:43]: And we should move it into a matter accordingly so that the next person receive it. That would be appropriate, and Miss Gantt would receive it this year, Mr. Berry would receive it next year. And that would set a precedence for us and it will set the policy as that being the thing, so that people aren't competing for the position. [0:59:43, 1:00:01]: And that it does not become political in any way. I suggest again, Mr. Berry, you ask m Mr. Thomas to withdraw the motion or that we refuse to vote that you refuse to vote on this and we abstain and that that certainly that there there would be no vote if the three of us abstained. [1:00:02, 1:00:15]: Well I wouldn't suggest not abstaining. We need to move on. We we need to move on with the mayor pro time just in case something happens to me. I I certainly d believe that I wouldn't withdraw I think we should withdraw the motion and then have a second motion made. [1:00:16, 1:00:25]: Since I've been referenced and I've been asked a question. I asked Mr Very Yeah, I know I know what you Mayor Ford and Council. [1:00:27, 1:00:28]: I would not [1:00:29, 1:00:36]: I would not remove my recommendation. And I and I heard someone say that it this is the mess and I agree. [1:00:37, 1:00:45]: It was stated that we should discuss this in executive session. And and that's what I w hold to and lastly let me say [1:00:45, 1:00:54]: I have never been in favor of rotation because I'm adhering to the charter. [1:00:54, 1:01:07]: I took a oath to adhere to the charge and and that's what I'm doing. So that's that's my last comment. Mr. I'll tell you what, Mr. Berry, yeah, I hate to put you in the spot, but you can actually uh of uh accept or deny. [1:01:08, 1:01:09]: Or whatever you like to do. [1:01:09, 1:01:29]: For the sake of the business of of this meeting, we do need to move on. And I and I I don't believe that we will get a unanimous regardless of the decision that's made. I will not withdraw. All right. All right. Now [1:01:29, 1:01:34]: Mo motion's been made's been motion's been made, been second. All in favor of Mr. Berry being a mayor pro tem. [1:01:35, 1:01:36]: All post. [1:01:36, 1:01:54]: I'll abstain. I abstain. Okay, three zero two. We move on, Mr. Barries and Mayor Pro Tem. Congratulations. Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Now what we have before us, we have a couple issues here, a couple different uh public hearings. Now for the public hearing ruling, uh please mute all your cell phones and other electronic devices. [1:01:55, 1:02:03]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight on public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table a and hand it to the city clerk for approaching the podium. [1:02:04, 1:02:07]: Oh you know what? Stand by please. Stand by. I'm sorry. [1:02:07, 1:02:08]: I did forget something. [1:02:10, 1:02:12]: The appointment of the judge, Judge McCourt. [1:02:13, 1:02:22]: Is there a motion as to uh uh appoint Judge McCord? Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that we amend the agenda to add the appointment of the judge and the solicitor. [1:02:22, 1:02:26]: Okay. Okay, is there s there a second to that motion? A second. All in favor, please indicate. [1:02:27, 1:02:31]: Okay, Nam C okay now. Um you need appointment of the of the judge McCour, please. [1:02:32, 1:02:32]: Officially. [1:02:33, 1:02:36]: Okay, Miss Gantt, I mean Miss Barber, is there a second? [1:02:37, 1:02:40]: I second. Ms Ms. Gantt second all favor, please indicate. [1:02:40, 1:02:45]: She Nancy Sization. Thank you very very thank you very much. Also the uh appointment of the solicitor, Miss Uh Julie Kirk. [1:02:46, 1:02:49]: Mayor, I move that we appoint the solicitor, Ms. Judy Clark. [1:02:49, 1:03:09]: Okay, is there a second? Ms. Barber second that all favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Okay, now now let's go back to public hearing. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for your patience here. Um once again, public hearing rules. Please mute all cell phones and other electronic devices. If anybody wishes to speak tonight on public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the [1:03:09, 1:03:11]: City Clerk before approaching a podium. [1:03:12, 1:03:32]: After each case is called, the city can the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant and their representative regarding proposed plans for property along with any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an [1:03:32, 1:03:52]: Opportunity to do so. Each side will be allocated 10 minutes total. Additional time may be extended with the discretion of the counsel. Please keep comments and presentations professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual or group. Please refrain from any applause, comments, [1:03:52, 1:04:10]: For from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer, which is me, and never to the members of the council, staff, or audience. All comments may be made from the podium where you'll be required to state your name and address for the record. [1:04:11, 1:04:21]: Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply with will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if the if you deviate from these proceedings. [1:04:25, 1:04:45]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use entire 10 minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. The presiding officer will [1:04:45, 1:04:56]: will call for the motion and a second to the motion and have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for a vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. [1:04:58, 1:05:18]: Our first public hearing deals with the annexation case AX 2305 located in Council District 5. Council consideration to request an annexation of certain property on Brandon Road to allow for the construction of single-family detached residential development, a subdivision. The applicant is [1:05:18, 1:05:33]: Poulte Group Incorporated, CO is Battle Group PC. The property contains four process of landlots, two and three of District 7. It's also listed below with 134, 134.31 uh total acres unincorporated Henry County. [1:05:36, 1:05:56]: Nine forty one Brandon Road, parcel zero eight eight dash zero two zero five five zero zero zero contains five acres. One uh one one zero zero Brandon Road, parcel number zero eight eight dash zero two zero five seven zero zero zero to include the southwestern track, which contains twenty nine point [1:05:56, 1:06:16]: Parcel number zero eight eight dash zero two zero five six zero zero zero contains eighty seven point three three acres and parcel zero seven zero dash zero one zero zero five zero zero one contains twelve point eight nine acres presented by the community development staff but before you [1:06:15, 1:06:35]: Does that once again accompany the planned amendment case CP 22 2023-06, once again located in Council District 5. And Council consideration to request for a comprehensive plan amendment to assign the future land use designation of a low-density residential to a certain property in Brandon Road to allow for the construction of single-family. [1:06:35, 1:06:37]: Detached residential development. [1:06:39, 1:06:59]: And also we will mention the rezoning case, RZ-2023-07, once again located in Council District 5. Council consideration to request for rezoning of the sign of the zoning district SR suburban residential district to certain property on Brandon Road to allow for the construction of the single family. [1:06:59, 1:07:19]: detached residential development once again a subdivision and applicant of courses polte group co battle group pc and property contains four property contains four parcels of landlots two three of district seven and listed below with 134.31 total acres and on a corporate uh county area mr ryan anderson [1:07:19, 1:07:20]: Please. [1:07:22, 1:07:24]: Parents sort of process. [1:07:25, 1:07:26]: Yeah. [1:07:27, 1:07:30]: Oh well. Thank you, Ms. All right. Okay. [1:07:32, 1:07:43]: Cur the current use of the property is uh on one tract of land you have one single family resident and the rest of the land is vacant and heavy wooded. The current zoning, the current county zoning. [1:07:44, 1:08:02]: For 941 and 1100 Brandon Road, it's RA Residential Agriculture. And for parcel, track 07-01005-001, it's single family residential R3. The county land use designation is low density residential. [1:08:03, 1:08:15]: and low and medium residential and low density residential and medium dis density residential for the four tracks. Right here you can see an aerial photo of the four tracks of land. [1:08:20, 1:08:29]: Adjacent property to the north is Residential Agriculture, Henry County. Properties to the south is PUD, City of Stock Bridge. [1:08:29, 1:08:49]: MFR Multifamily Residential City of Stockbridge. SR Suburban Residential City of Stockbridge. All these are properties to the south. Properties to the east are R2 Single Family Residential in Henry County. RA Residential Agriculture in Henry County. And property to the to the west is R3 Single Family Henry County. [1:08:49, 1:08:55]: Multifamily residential Henry County and OI, City of Stockbridge, which is office institutional. [1:08:56, 1:08:58]: Here is a copy of the zoning map. [1:09:00, 1:09:03]: And you can see that most of the properties are R A and R3. [1:09:09, 1:09:19]: Also the surrounding future land use, the single family residential to the north and low and medium density residential. [1:09:20, 1:09:40]: Also, the existing land use to the south, you have the Hickory Flat Elementary School, the Clark Meadow Subdivision, and Moss Point Subdivision. The existing land use is public institutional, low density residential, and low density residential. Properties to the east, you have single-family residences, the Providence Harbor Subdivision, and you have [1:09:40, 1:09:57]: Low density residential Henry County and low density residential Henry County. Properties to the west, you got Carlisle at Rockport Subdivision and St. Andrews at Rockport. The land use is medium density residential Henry County and Medium Density Residential Henry County. [1:10:00, 1:10:06]: Here's the top of the um a picture of the uh future land use map, and you can see that it's all compatible. [1:10:12, 1:10:25]: Uh, the project information, the applicant proposed to build a subdivision with 161 single-family detached lots with 22 guest parking spaces and amenities, like a playground and a 10-foot multi-use path. [1:10:26, 1:10:29]: Here's the copy of the site plan, a rendering of the site plan. [1:10:33, 1:10:38]: Here are renderings of the proposed houses. There will be three different styles. [1:10:45, 1:10:54]: Uh staff analysis for the um the annexation. Staff recommends approval because the property is contiguous with the city of Stockbridge and that's the main requirement. [1:10:58, 1:11:08]: As it relates to the um comp plan, staff recommends approval and also on the rezoning, staff recommends approval. [1:11:11, 1:11:23]: That's it, Mayor. I'm finished. Okay, that's it for your presentation this time, sir. Yes, sir. And um you covered all three areas adequately? Yes, sir. All right. Council, what kind of questions do you have for Mr Anderson? [1:11:27, 1:11:28]: Any questions? [1:11:30, 1:11:32]: Ms. Alexander, this is your district. Any questions? [1:11:32, 1:11:43]: Uh no, I think he's uh done a fine job of covering the territory. I think uh we just should uh let the listen let the presentation from the applicant speak for itself. [1:11:45, 1:11:47]: All right. Once again, any questions from the council? [1:11:48, 1:11:50]: If no questions from the council and uh [1:11:50, 1:11:52]: Uh how about the the uh [1:11:52, 1:11:56]: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, Miss Battle. I was gonna cut say that next. Come on up. Do you have anything you need to add, Miss Battle? [1:12:00, 1:12:05]: The presenters should be open crystalline. [1:12:06, 1:12:15]: Good evening, Michelle Battle with Battle Law. Um 3562, Habersham at North Lake Tucker, Georgia, 30084. Um, I would like to reserve [1:12:16, 1:12:17]: Huh. [1:12:18, 1:12:22]: No. Did I email it, Elser? Is it right there? Okay, great. [1:12:23, 1:12:35]: Um i would it be possible for me to hold my comments until after um the uh uh the opposition has spoken? Okay, thank you. I appreciate that. So on that note uh go ahead. [1:12:36, 1:12:42]: Come back, Miss Bell. So that wasn't the way that I wanted to proceed. So come back, please. [1:12:44, 1:12:45]: Okay, what kind of questions do you have, sir? [1:12:46, 1:13:04]: What I wanted Ms. Battle to do was to kinda go through the presentation, uh, so that folks under I am gonna go through the whole presentation. Um most of the people that were here, or at least I think all of the people here were here during the planning commission meeting. So I was gonna give them the opportunity to speak. But if you l prefer that I speak now, that's fine. [1:13:04, 1:13:20]: I think that yeah, that that would be appropriate to set the stage for kinda what you're where you're going so folks understand what this is. There's a lot of misinformation that we'll hear, that we've heard, and there's a lot of misinformation that I'm sure we'll probably hear again tonight. [1:13:46, 1:14:06]: Sorry, and to be able to see while I'm standing here. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I'm together now. Thank you. All right. All right. Um first and foremost, we just wanted to introduce Pulti. Pull T is um a 70-year-old um home developer uh company. Um they have delivered [1:14:06, 1:14:26]: Almost 750,000 homes and are the third largest home building company in operation in 23 states and 42 major markets. They are headquartered in Atlanta, and their brands include Pulti, Syntex, Dell Web, The Visto, J. [1:14:26, 1:14:46]: Wheeland homes and neighborhoods and American West. They got their start in the 1950s, and they have continued to build and continue to grow throughout the Metro Atlanta area in particular. You can see here a map of the many subdivisions that have been built throughout. [1:14:46, 1:14:55]: throughout the area. They have been very, particularly in recent, they have been very active in the Henry County market. [1:14:56, 1:15:16]: And you can see uh a lot of their projects um throughout the area. Um Anderson Point, um Woodbridge Estates, um we've also uh got uh Hawthorne Ridge um and um Wildwood at Avalon, along with uh it looks like uh [1:15:16, 1:15:36]: uh Harrington, which is coming soon. So those are um sites that you could actually visit. With regards to what is before you today, um it has already been sounded for the annexation, the future land use amendment, the rezoning, and there was also a variance to allow the reduction of the front yard setback from 50 [1:15:35, 1:15:38]: Um feet to thirty five feet. [1:15:38, 1:15:58]: And um as we proceed through, um there were just a couple of things that I wanted to highlight um from what staff has said. Um number one, this is a um site plan that is inlaid um over the aerial map for the area. You can see here um the flat um Hickory Flat Elementary. [1:15:58, 1:16:18]: School along with some of the surrounding community areas, including Clark's Meadows subdivision, which is actually located within the city's boundaries, and allows for the annexation as the property here actually abuts the rear of Clark Meadows. [1:16:18, 1:16:28]: We believe that it makes sense for the annexation of this property into the city. There are some who were at the last meeting who indicated that they saw no benefit. [1:16:28, 1:16:48]: Um to this property being moved into the city. And I disagree vehemently. I think that the city is doing an excellent job of its growth and the development of the city, providing amenities, and really uh trying to do all that you all can to improve the quality of life for the residents in the city. There are many businesses. [1:16:48, 1:17:08]: Benefits from the developer side to moving this out of Henry County. Primarily, it just takes too long to do anything in the county. When we were going through the rezoning process there, I have cases that are now taking a year and a half to get through zoning in the city, in the county. And that's simply [1:17:08, 1:17:28]: Too long. We have actually two of the property owners on this property have died since we've been pursuing this rezoning. It's been that long. So we elected to move into the city because we believe that it is a better opportunity for the development of the site and then to allow us to proceed in a more expeditious way. [1:17:28, 1:17:29]: Yeah. [1:17:30, 1:17:50]: We do have a survey. This survey shows that there are wetlands that run along the perimeter as well as the floodplain and stream buffer. That is not unusual on sites. There are many sites that have stream buffers and the like. And we are only building in the area. [1:17:50, 1:18:10]: Areas outside of there. We are abiding by all of the stream buffer uh requirements, including the 75-foot buffer for the um undisturbed portion along with the 25-foot um impervious surface setback as well. The property again is shown um [1:18:10, 1:18:30]: In terms of zoning, right now is R A with the medium density residential land use and low density residential land use designation. We believe that it is appropriate to move um both sites as low density residential. We are not seeking to maximize all of the um [1:18:30, 1:18:36]: um density that we could if we went with an um medium density residential designation. In fact [1:18:37, 1:18:57]: We are looking at a total of 161 units at 1.19 units per acre gross and 1.96 per acre net. So we are under two units per acre. And I think that that's notable again that we were not trying to go after the most dense community. [1:18:57, 1:19:09]: that we could if we had instead moved to go to medium density residential. When we look at the amenity areas, we are looking at a swimming pool, tot lot. [1:19:09, 1:19:29]: Um a kids pool um Pool T is very dedicated to making sure that they have quality amenities within their communities, and that is something we know is very important, particularly some of the other projects we've done in District 5 that the District 5 council member likes to see with um with a gazette. [1:19:29, 1:19:34]: [4777.6, 4797.6]: We are asking to be zoned to the SR district. The SR district allows for 12,000 minimum square foot lots. On the site, we will have 12,000 square foot minimum lots, but along Brandon Road, those units will be 17,000 square feet. And when we look around at some [1:19:57, 1:20:17]: Of the other developments that have occurred within the area. We certainly are within the density. In fact, we're less than the density on some of the sites, including Clark Meadow, where they have a density of 2.74 units per acre. There was another project that we recently had approved here for Liberty Community. [1:20:17, 1:20:32]: And we are more in line with that, where their density was at 1. I believe 89 units per acre on their site with minimum 12,000 square foot lots with 15,000 square foot lots along Brandon Road. [1:20:33, 1:20:53]: Um staff indicated that we only had three um types of units here. We actually have quite a few more um type units along. Um we want to have residents allowing them to have a very uh generous um portfolio to look through in terms of the types of homes that would be built on the site. [1:20:53, 1:21:07]: So you can see here some of the homes have three, four, five bedrooms, depending on what is desired. Some have two garages as opposed to just one. [1:21:09, 1:21:29]: Um all of them have some component of either brick, um hardy plank, um board and batten um use, which are materials um that many um like to have as opposed to just a hundred percent brick, although they will certainly be offered. Um there are a lot of homes that are craftsman style, like the ones that you see. [1:21:29, 1:21:36]: here um where those homes sell equally as high in value um as those that have brick. [1:21:46, 1:22:06]: We also looked at having a ranch style product. If that is not desirable to City Council, we are not wedded to having that product. It has been selling pretty well. We believe that there are families who may have individuals who are handicapped or seniors that [1:22:05, 1:22:20]: don't want to um have stairs that may be interested in this type of uh a ranch style home. However, um if that does not work for the city, we are okay with um only having two story units available. [1:22:22, 1:22:42]: Um having now um looked at the projections, um, when we initially started this project, um that was two years ago when um the home sale prices were closer to four to six hundred um thousand for this project. Um after recalculating and going back and looking at the product and [1:22:42, 1:23:02]: And all of the increase in materials and costs, Poulty has determined that in fact these homes they will initially be marketing because they won't come online if this gets approved until sometime in 20 late 2025 or 2026. That we are looking instead at price points between 600. [1:23:02, 1:23:22]: To 800,000, dependent upon what the homeowner so desires. We know that many of the homes now, those are the base prices. When we're looking, we're not talking about all of the homes being at 800,000, so I want to make sure that that's clear. [1:23:22, 1:23:42]: Is that they will have a list price. As we know, it's like when you go into a buy a car, you look at the list price for the car. If you want the base level, then you pay the base level price. However, most people want improvements, embellishments on their car, on their homes, whether you want different amenities within your home, whether you look [1:23:42, 1:24:02]: Look at the finishes that you determine in your home, all of those determine um what the actual price of the home will be. And so we know that um the market is rapidly changing um and we believe that the price points will be in that range. I think I have more time than that because we actually have three applications. You do. Okay. [1:24:07, 1:24:24]: All right. Uh that was actually the end of the the visual part of the presentation. Um but um that was where we wanted to um to end with regards to um the variances that are being requested. Um we believe that [1:24:25, 1:24:44]: Okay. I'm just told we'll we'll he has to introduce that case, so we'll just hold that until that comes up. All right. Um so I'm here to answer any questions that you may have. All right, counsel. Yes. Now you stated that the price points be between six hundred and eight hundred thousand dollars for these particular property. What's the square f the square footage of these pro homes? [1:24:44, 1:24:47]: I'm gonna ask Rick if he would come. [1:24:48, 1:24:53]: Rick, you'll have to come up and to introduce yourself. We have Rick Martin here with Pulti Homes. [1:24:56, 1:25:16]: How are you doing, Mr. Martin? Good evening, Mayor. Good evening, members of the City Council. I'm Rick Martin. I live at uh 34 304 T Rose Court, Griffin, Georgia, 30223. I'm director of land acquisition for Poulty here. And uh the answer to the question, if I understood it correctly, the side, the square foot. [1:25:16, 1:25:18]: And the other thing. [1:25:19, 1:25:39]: Should you be in so desirous and we build the ranch, the ranch would range between twenty-three and thirty-six hundred square feet. Pardon me. And the uh two stories would range between twenty-eight and four thousand square feet. And the four thousand. Uh my prefer preference would be the larger number and that the ranches have a larger square foot. [1:25:39, 1:25:59]: footage on the footprint to make sure that the price points were held up to where we're trying to be between six hundred and eight hundred thousand versus the lower number, closer to three thousand square feet. Yes, sir. In fact we we build the same house uh all all over at land and we're pretty pretty comfortable with where they [1:25:59, 1:26:13]: uh w uh base pricing is. In addition to that, as as uh uh Ms. Battle was pointing out, what drives the final pricing is the options that the individual sellers select. [1:26:13, 1:26:33]: Certainly and uh understanding that I know certainly many other neighbors in the area, especially several in uh Providence Harbor, quality homes, uh the Liberty community that we got approved, and certainly I'm excited that Poulty has finally brought found Stockbridge. Uh you primarily been building on the north side of the city. [1:26:33, 1:26:53]: For quite some time now. And I think when we talked in our initial conversation, what you assured me was that Pulte had acquired John Wheeland Homes, which and then that the similar product would be bestowed upon this product, which is the John Whelan product, which is basically what's polluted. [1:26:53, 1:26:57]: what Pelute offers, but you certainly purchased that brand, correct? [1:26:57, 1:27:14]: Indeed. Indeed, yes, sir. In the in this market, Poulti owns the Delware brand, John Wheel and Syntex, which is our entry level brand, and Poulti, which stretches across the upper end of where Sentex is into the middle part of where the John Wheelan market uh caters to. [1:27:14, 1:27:34]: Okay, and it and Ms. uh Battle had mentioned two car, but we're talking about three car garages. Two and three car. Two and three car garages in terms of the overall footprint of the homes uh upgrades and options throughout the homes to uh the amenity package and the trim package that would be uh complementary of a [1:27:34, 1:27:37]: six hundred to eight hundred thousand dollar homes that correct. [1:27:37, 1:27:52]: Indeed. And those those th th those include trim packages, bonus rooms, uh additions to including uh sunrooms and others uh that are common uh selections from buyers in this uh price category. [1:27:53, 1:27:56]: What is the target bar what is the target purchaser for these homes then? [1:27:57, 1:28:02]: The target? The target audience for these home or these a homeowner for these this product. [1:28:03, 1:28:03]: Yeah. [1:28:03, 1:28:12]: Mid to upper level uh i it these aren't entry level homes. These would be mid or move up uh uh market uh uh type purchases. [1:28:12, 1:28:20]: So these homes in essence would give uh citizens in stockbirds who wanted to stay in the city an option to move up to a nicer home. [1:28:20, 1:28:22]: Esta established homeowners, yes, sir. [1:28:23, 1:28:43]: in in a great neighborhood with uh amenities. And also I think what we did was, Miss Bowder, we decided that we would do a ten foot multi-use path along Brandon Road. Which Brandon Road is correct. Brandon Road currently does not have a sidewalk. And which this neighborhood and then the other Liberty neighborhood [1:28:43, 1:28:50]: Hood would have a ten foot multi use path as well that will increase the sidewalk presence on Brandon Road. Is that correct? [1:28:50, 1:29:10]: That's that's correct. And and that we've provided connectivity for walking within the community as well. There's a small cemetery area that we've created walkways, soft c soft padded walkways that'll connect the streets to the more uh um wooded areas for purposes of walking. [1:29:10, 1:29:20]: So talk about the community in terms of the upkeep and the HOA fee and then um uh whether and that's a gated community. [1:29:20, 1:29:21]: I beg your pardon? Gated community. [1:29:22, 1:29:29]: It Um asking if the g if the community's gated. Is it we could be right? He asked is if if it's gated. [1:29:29, 1:29:32]: Um, I don't believe we gated this community. [1:29:33, 1:29:38]: Okay. If that's a if that's something the cities uh would like to see us do uh, I could address that. [1:29:39, 1:29:59]: Well talk about that and its effect on the HOA fee. So there will be a mandatory homeowners association with mandatory dues that will be payable that will allow um them to maintain and upkeep all of the amenities um and the open space areas. Um they will own all of the green space areas. [1:29:59, 1:30:19]: Um and be responsible for that maintenance. Um, in terms of what they anticipate the actual dues being, I'm not sure if he's got a number for that, but we haven't done a budget, but I can tell you firsthand that Poulti's common area maintenance uh uh taxes and insurance for the common area run as low as any place in the market. [1:30:19, 1:30:39]: I happen to live in Sun City Peachtree, which is a resort sty style amenity package, including a 44,000 square foot amenity center, indoor outdoor pool, and a number of other things. And my month and and we don't mow mow any grass outside our homes or do any of the lawn maintenance anywhere in the property. And my monthly fees. [1:30:39, 1:30:42]: There are two hundred and forty dollars a month. [1:30:42, 1:30:58]: So certainly uh in that area, uh Providence Harbor is not gated across the street. Uh Lip the Liberty Community is not either. I can't. That was a question that I was simply asking to see whether or not that was the plan for the neighborhood. But it wouldn't be required, you know. Yes, sir. Yes. [1:31:00, 1:31:11]: Okay, counselor, any more questions uh for yes sir, go ahead please. Uh good evening. Uh I did not see any uh model with the side view garage. Are there any? [1:31:12, 1:31:28]: Um I don't think we had any on on those pictures, but we are aware that side entry garages are something that are desired, particularly on the corner lots. [1:31:28, 1:31:40]: It um it varies depending on the site, but we didn't have that many lots where a side entry garage uh worked here, so we didn't show any, but we offer side entry garages certainly. [1:31:40, 1:31:57]: Thank you. Thank you. But certainly we would like to maximize the number of side entry garages, which we did uh on the Li other Liberty property. And defin definitely on the corner lots because they have right on the corner lots and certainly that should be an option available to uh homeowners. Yes. [1:31:58, 1:32:02]: Any other questions from the council at all? Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:32:02, 1:32:22]: Um how many of them are three bedrooms, how many are four bedrooms, how many are five bedrooms? That will depend on what the homeowner is seeking, but I think all of the the all of the homes have three to four bedroom no less than three bedrooms. And and most of these homes uh in this [1:32:22, 1:32:36]: In this buyer profile, if it's a three bedroom home, the fourth bedroom will be uh converted to a bonus room, uh office, a den, or some some other use. Most of the time they're constructed as four bedroom homes. Thank you. [1:32:37, 1:32:38]: Answer a question. [1:32:39, 1:32:59]: Yes, ma'am. So just just to be clear, I want to clarify because I think I I I kind of misspoke. It's four bedrooms in all of the units. Right. The person may opt to have the fourth bedroom as like an office as opposed to a bedroom, but it technically will be four bedrooms. And five bedrooms, two. Sorry, four and up. [1:32:59, 1:33:01]: We'll offer a three bedroom as well. [1:33:02, 1:33:03]: Okay, Ms. Gangway, please. [1:33:04, 1:33:24]: Um, I had a question. Did planning and zoning get a chance to see this particular presentation? Yes. They did. Okay. Yes. All right. And in terms of the homes that we had, um, we had given so many. I know that staff was like we had so many homes because we had all the pictures, and so they picked out just a couple of the ones, but [1:33:24, 1:33:27]: All of the pictures we had delivered um to staff as well. [1:33:29, 1:33:31]: Okay, any other questions, Council? [1:33:31, 1:33:51]: All right. If not, thank you for very much. Uh we'll probably come back to the podium a little later. Okay. Uh at this point I'm gonna open up to a public hearing. All right. I raided the rules for public hearing some time ago, but we'll start on the very and first of all we'll go with folks that are for, for this development, for the development. I'll start on my very left, my very left. Anybody for [1:33:51, 1:33:56]: I need you to come forward and line up. Four. [1:33:57, 1:34:09]: Anybody four in the middle? Wanting comments four for the development. Come on, step on up, ma'am. Uh line line up on this side. Okay, for the development. Anybody else for the development? [1:34:09, 1:34:16]: In the middle, anybody else for development on the uh my right hand side? My right hand side. Anybody else for? [1:34:16, 1:34:27]: All right. So f this is four, okay? For the development, ma'am with your name we have start the ten minute clock, just in case, please. Um name and address, ma'am, and your comments. [1:34:27, 1:34:44]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the city council and the people here tonight, ladies and gentlemen. My name is ma'am. Could you get closer? My name is Sharon Wilson. Okay. I live at two oh two Brandon Road, MacDonagh, Georgia. Okay. I've been there forty four years. [1:34:45, 1:34:52]: This property, uh to give you a little history on the property, came into the family in nineteen hundred. Okay. [1:34:53, 1:35:05]: My great grandfather, Joseph Beaman Brannon, and his wife Elan Leola Brann, two separate Brannons, strains in Henry County. They raised two children there, a boy and a girl. [1:35:06, 1:35:08]: The boy passed when he was young. [1:35:09, 1:35:11]: My grandmother Lena May Brannon inherited the [1:35:12, 1:35:15]: Married Hubert Pearson, raised three sons. [1:35:16, 1:35:22]: My father was the oldest, Herman. He passed in June of twenty two, at the age of ninety three. [1:35:23, 1:35:38]: His brother Wade is living and has a wife, Irene, who is here tonight. And the youngest brother, Beaman Pearson, deceased in October of twenty twenty one. So that's the two brothers that have passed. [1:35:40, 1:35:50]: This family has owned and been good stewards of this land since nineteen hundred. That's a hundred and twenty five years, um, roughly, give or take. [1:35:50, 1:35:51]: Um [1:35:52, 1:35:58]: They have been conservationists. They farmed the land, they fed the people of Henry County and counties around. [1:36:01, 1:36:02]: They worked hard. [1:36:03, 1:36:12]: The land was their investment. That's what my great great grandfather taught them. That's what those generations did. They invested in land. [1:36:14, 1:36:15]: That [1:36:15, 1:36:19]: That investment is a great one so long as you can hold on to the land. [1:36:20, 1:36:22]: Use the land and take care of it. [1:36:22, 1:36:26]: But when the land no longer takes care of you as it's doing now. [1:36:27, 1:36:35]: Two of the brothers are gone. One is living. He's infirm and elderly at eighty-five. His wife is eighty-six. [1:36:35, 1:36:41]: They are this is a hardship situation for selling this property, or they would never let it go. [1:36:47, 1:36:49]: None of us would let it go. [1:36:50, 1:36:53]: We've lived on it our whole lives. I'm seventy two. [1:36:56, 1:37:02]: Family cannot be expected to hold onto land to make it a park for the residents of Henry County. [1:37:02, 1:37:08]: Or the city of Stockbridge when the need arises that they need to take care of themselves. [1:37:10, 1:37:13]: Taxes, upkeep, and liability. [1:37:15, 1:37:21]: There's only me and my infirmed eighty-five year old uncle anymore that can take care of that property. [1:37:24, 1:37:27]: No one in this room wants uncontrolled development. [1:37:28, 1:37:36]: It broke my family's heart to contact Poulty and ask them to help us with this. That was two years ago. [1:37:37, 1:37:50]: During that time I wound up supporting my dad's baby brother because he didn't have the money to take care of himself the last five months he lived, because the land didn't s wasn't able to be sold. [1:37:50, 1:37:55]: You cannot turn land over like you can stocks when the need arises. [1:37:58, 1:37:59]: This is a good development. [1:38:00, 1:38:01]: No. [1:38:02, 1:38:04]: We've seen development in Henry County. [1:38:05, 1:38:08]: I look now and I look at hundreds of apartment buildings going up. [1:38:09, 1:38:11]: I see warehouses going up. [1:38:12, 1:38:15]: This is one point two homes per acre. [1:38:16, 1:38:18]: It could be five homes per acre. [1:38:19, 1:38:22]: І куди три худа апартмент булдинс, і куди вarehouses. [1:38:24, 1:38:26]: When we talk about the stewardship of the land [1:38:28, 1:38:32]: The subdivision across the street has a safe entry because my uncle Wade [1:38:33, 1:38:34]: The one that's still living. [1:38:35, 1:38:36]: Мозгеніс енаф. [1:38:37, 1:38:43]: to sell at a a r ridiculously inexpensive cost to the developer. [1:38:43, 1:38:45]: The land to make that [1:38:45, 1:38:51]: driveway in and or the entrance in and out of that subdivision safe for the people that live there. [1:38:51, 1:38:53]: It's not that we don't care. [1:38:53, 1:38:56]: It's that the need is here and present. [1:38:56, 1:38:59]: To take care of my aunt and my uncle at this point. [1:38:59, 1:39:01]: They're the only ones left. [1:39:01, 1:39:02]: They can't do anything. [1:39:03, 1:39:05]: Except hope that you will [1:39:05, 1:39:07]: Give this fair consideration. [1:39:08, 1:39:10]: For a good development. [1:39:10, 1:39:11]: and offer your approval. [1:39:12, 1:39:15]: And I thank you for listening to me. Thank you. Appreciate it. [1:39:23, 1:39:31]: Name and address, please, sir. Good evening. Uh James White. I live 167 White Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, which is in Henry County. [1:39:31, 1:39:50]: some of the stock bridges in Rockdale County if you live over where I live. Understand. I am a real estate broker and I've been working with the family since uh twenty nineteen. We have we've had a lot of interest in this property from the very beginning. We had offers within [1:39:50, 1:39:53]: Uh probably two weeks, uh that [1:39:53, 1:40:13]: The owners didn't consider. We had the largest home builder in America and others. Um and uh we were very pleased that Pool Tee would be interested and I'll be honest with you, amazed that they still sticking with it. It's been a difficult [1:40:13, 1:40:18]: Time. It is a unique property. Uh uh [1:40:20, 1:40:21]: Irene. [1:40:21, 1:40:24]: Pearson is here tonight, she and her husband. [1:40:24, 1:40:26]: Built their home there thirty five years. [1:40:27, 1:40:29]: And uh they never cut. [1:40:29, 1:40:30]: In a trees. [1:40:31, 1:40:32]: Where they built their house. [1:40:34, 1:40:34]: Hello? [1:40:34, 1:40:35]: Very [1:40:36, 1:40:37]: unique property. [1:40:37, 1:40:38]: It's uh [1:40:38, 1:40:40]: Got some ancient trees on it. [1:40:40, 1:40:41]: And they w [1:40:41, 1:40:43]: It would be a nice place [1:40:43, 1:40:46]: To have a a walkway through those woods. [1:40:47, 1:40:51]: I have lived in Florida, North Carolina, and Georgia. [1:40:52, 1:40:55]: In North Carolina I live near Biltmore Forest. [1:40:56, 1:40:58]: I didn't have any better forest. [1:40:59, 1:41:00]: Then they have. [1:41:01, 1:41:01]: And uh [1:41:04, 1:41:06]: Today I drove a c another client. [1:41:07, 1:41:08]: To uh [1:41:09, 1:41:10]: Near Linux for closing. [1:41:11, 1:41:13]: And we intentionally [1:41:13, 1:41:14]: Didn't get on the expressway. [1:41:15, 1:41:16]: We drove. [1:41:17, 1:41:17]: True. [1:41:17, 1:41:19]: Henry Cannie and Decay County. [1:41:20, 1:41:21]: In Fulton County. [1:41:22, 1:41:24]: And we drove by [1:41:26, 1:41:27]: M university. [1:41:27, 1:41:28]: Where I attended. [1:41:29, 1:41:32]: And near there's one of the finest country clubs in America. [1:41:33, 1:41:34]: But on the way there [1:41:35, 1:41:36]: We drove through. [1:41:37, 1:41:38]: I guess. [1:41:38, 1:41:41]: Thousands of different designs of houses. [1:41:42, 1:41:43]: And I look back and see that [1:41:44, 1:41:49]: In Henry County, my grandparents also I live in home, built Brown nineteen hundred. [1:41:50, 1:41:51]: Uh you know. [1:41:52, 1:41:54]: They did what they could afford to do. [1:41:54, 1:41:56]: They did what met their needs. [1:41:57, 1:41:59]: I think it's presumptuous to try to tell [1:42:00, 1:42:02]: Builders who are trying to make a living [1:42:02, 1:42:07]: exactly what they have to do. You need to live on the flexibility to meet the demand of the public. [1:42:08, 1:42:08]: If they don't [1:42:09, 1:42:09]: Continue. [1:42:10, 1:42:11]: To make money, they won't be [1:42:11, 1:42:14]: In the home building business. And if they've been there [1:42:15, 1:42:16]: I mean a an Atlanta company? [1:42:17, 1:42:18]: Succeeded. [1:42:19, 1:42:24]: For seventy years, I know a lot of people went broke just a few years ago when we had a recession. [1:42:24, 1:42:26]: I mean they gotta be doing something right. [1:42:26, 1:42:28]: to meet the demand of the public. [1:42:29, 1:42:33]: I live on a farm. I mean, I love looking out my backyard and seeing nobody. [1:42:34, 1:42:37]: But most of the young people don't want to even care for. [1:42:37, 1:42:42]: Ten thousand square feet, much less seventeen thousand or a half acre or ten acres. [1:42:42, 1:42:43]: But anyway [1:42:43, 1:42:45]: I sell property to anybody. [1:42:45, 1:42:52]: uh that uh you know, it's just what they demand, what they want. And I believe that uh these people [1:42:52, 1:42:53]: Well no. [1:42:53, 1:42:55]: produce a product and I've looked and [1:42:56, 1:42:59]: Online I see uh because I am a broker. [1:43:00, 1:43:02]: Their advertisement of a California plan. [1:43:03, 1:43:04]: And you know [1:43:04, 1:43:06]: People are moving to Georgia. [1:43:06, 1:43:07]: From everywhere. [1:43:08, 1:43:09]: And especially [1:43:09, 1:43:11]: From where it's cold up in New York and [1:43:12, 1:43:14]: Where it's too expensive in California, so [1:43:14, 1:43:15]: Oh. [1:43:15, 1:43:19]: I mean, people got the money to buy what they want, they're coming here and [1:43:20, 1:43:22]: To be honest, it's still a very [1:43:22, 1:43:23]: Strong shortage. [1:43:24, 1:43:24]: My client. [1:43:25, 1:43:26]: Lived on a little five acre piece. [1:43:27, 1:43:29]: Off one hundred fifty five highway near me. [1:43:30, 1:43:38]: Today he said he's been worried to death by people calling him wanting to buy his house. I said, that's cause there's not enough houses in Henry County to meet the demand of all the people that are coming here. [1:43:39, 1:43:40]: So [1:43:40, 1:43:43]: We have been very frustrated with the delay. [1:43:44, 1:43:48]: So uh in in getting something that was uh [1:43:49, 1:43:55]: acceptable to the government and uh Henry County. I'll be honest with you, very frustrated. [1:43:55, 1:43:56]: Uh, and very disappointed. [1:43:57, 1:44:15]: I understand the concern of other people, but we don't have a drawbridge in Henry County. When you get here you don't get to pull up the bridge and stop the other people from coming. And not everybody can afford uh, you know, a million dollar house. It's just that that's just the facts. Thank you for listening. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. All right. Yes, sir. [1:44:16, 1:44:20]: I if I could like to ask the city attorney to come to the podium. [1:44:20, 1:44:22]: All right. Mr Ms Washington. [1:44:30, 1:44:31]: Ms. Washington? [1:44:38, 1:44:43]: All right, Samantha, happy new year to you. Happy New Year. All right. What's your question, Mr. Alezander? [1:44:47, 1:45:01]: Yes, ma'am. Uh there's been a lot of misinformation out there about uh the stock bridge. We have a comprehensive uh plan that the city passed, the ULDC. Is that we have a uh Ryan Ryan, you come up as well. [1:45:06, 1:45:16]: We have a comprehensive plan that the city passed and that plan was registered with the state and the appropriate agencies and verified. Is that correct? [1:45:17, 1:45:17]: Yes, sir. [1:45:18, 1:45:28]: Okay. There's a lot of statements made about the city is not follow technically following uh the legal process for the state. We advertise this correctly, right? [1:45:28, 1:45:48]: Yes, sir. Everything that we do legal reviews it, correct, Ms. City Attorney? Yes. Every single process, every single document that we bring forward that we go through, and this process has been 100% legal and 100% uh by the book according to the state. [1:45:48, 1:45:53]: George, is that correct, Mr. Anderson? Yes, sir. Is that been verified by legal? [1:45:55, 1:45:58]: Everything that you present to legal, yes. Yes. [1:45:59, 1:46:02]: Absolutely. We um we have uh a zoning attorney. [1:46:02, 1:46:14]: Absolutely. And there certainly was some as a some misinformation put out there about this how the city of Stockbridge was violating the constitution. Are we violating the constitution in any way? [1:46:15, 1:46:16]: No, sir. [1:46:17, 1:46:25]: Has any document that we have we done anything inappropriate in these zoning cases that have been brought before us? [1:46:26, 1:46:27]: No, sir. [1:46:27, 1:46:35]: How long have you been uh uh in in the planting the zone in the um field, sir? Period in Stockbridge or [1:46:35, 1:46:50]: By twenty eight years. By twenty eight years. You understand this process completely, correct? Yes, sir. And you have reviewed every aspect of these zoning process and you have deemed that that they are valid and legal, correct? [1:46:51, 1:46:53]: Yes, and also we run everything by our attorney. [1:46:54, 1:47:07]: doing everything by our attorney. Ms. City Attorney have in reviewing any of the documents that have been presented to you in any of these packages, has anything inappropriate been done or has anything unsta constitutional been done? [1:47:08, 1:47:13]: There's been one particular instance that's been brought to our attention recently within the last couple of days. [1:47:13, 1:47:15]: We're gonna provide a legal memo. [1:47:16, 1:47:36]: uh I research and then if you decide to relay that to the public, you can. Well we certainly appreciate everything that you do to review these particular documents and review everything that we do. But certainly we sure we decide this council decide to approve this uh um particular development, we would have done [1:47:36, 1:47:41]: everything that we needed to do in order to legally make that pro make make that appropriate, is that correct? [1:47:41, 1:47:50]: That is correct. And if we find something illegal, we bring it to your attention and it provide you with advice that you take or not at your own decision. [1:47:51, 1:47:59]: Well, I certainly appreciate that. And and how long have you you know, Washington and Drive been around quite some time. Mr. Quentin Washington, is he here? [1:48:00, 1:48:06]: He stepped out for a moment. He stepped out for a minute. So Mr. Long Mr. Washington's been practicing law for high practical. [1:48:07, 1:48:17]: Uh twenty plus years. Twenty plus years. Yes. Correct. And uh we should have the utmost confidence in his legal legal legal opinions and ability, correct? [1:48:17, 1:48:29]: Yes, a combined experience of the firm is fifty plus years. And then when we come across something that we aren't experts in, we do find an expert. We don't just give advice willy nilly. [1:48:30, 1:48:34]: All right, thank you so much. I appreciate that. Thank you, Mayor. I'm done. [1:48:34, 1:48:36]: Uh thank you very much. Okay. [1:48:36, 1:48:54]: We're continuing with our public hearings. We already uh established uh folks that were for, now folks that are against this particular development in a very le my very left side, left side, if you're i wanna make comments against it, please line up on that side and uh we'll we'll hear you out in just a little bit. [1:48:54, 1:49:14]: Okay, left. Anybody in the middle that wants to speak against this? Hold hold up, please, stand right there, please. Uh anybody in the middle that wants to uh speak against this development in the middle, please line up on my far my far left. Anyone on the right? Anybody on the right that wants to make any comments against this particular development? Anybody on my right? If so, come around. [1:49:14, 1:49:18]: And uh stand up on this side, this far left side, please. Okay? [1:49:19, 1:49:26]: Now we'll start the clock at uh ten minutes. The very first person, ma'am, come on up, give your name and address and your comments, please. [1:49:28, 1:49:48]: Good evening, my name is Sarah Leslie. I live at 354 Newcastle Vista, which is in the St. Andrews at Rockport subdivision up the road. And I have been living there since 2006. I attended one of the Henry County Zoning Committees meetings about a year ago when this property was first discussed. [1:49:48, 1:49:54]: And I believe this annexation is the Poulty Company's attempt to get around the Henry County Zoning Committee. [1:49:54, 1:50:14]: The city of Stockbridge is being used, most likely because it is seen as weaker and easier in its zoning and regulations. Several concerns calm down, please. Go ahead with your comment. Several concerns were brought up at the county meeting, and there's a reason why it wasn't gone through the Henry County zoning. [1:50:14, 1:50:21]: Committee. First of all, the property is a watershed area and it needs to be protected. Cutting down trees, construction runoff. [1:50:21, 1:50:23]: Long chemicals will pollute the watershed. [1:50:23, 1:50:28]: An environmental study independent of POLTI needs to be completed first. [1:50:28, 1:50:31]: before um to measure its impact on it. [1:50:32, 1:50:42]: Traffic is an issue. It's not just on Brandon, but overall. Poulty had a traffic study that they show that they did two years ago. Traffic today is not the same. [1:50:42, 1:50:45]: And again, an independent study needs to be completed. [1:50:46, 1:51:03]: um on that before considering annexation. Um even according to Mr. Alexander's Facebook post, road improvements could take up to eight years. Adding more people will drive away all the businesses and new residents that you want to attract. No one will want to live here, shop here or visit here. [1:51:04, 1:51:11]: Several new neighborhoods are already being built in this area. The closest is a quarter of a mile away on Springdale. [1:51:11, 1:51:14]: Housing options are available everywhere in this county. [1:51:15, 1:51:35]: The impact on our schools, it's terrifying. It's gonna be overcrowded. There are no new plans for any new schools for our area. My neighborhood is zoned for the Union Grove School Cluster, and we have had to fight to stay in the Union Grove cluster. Adding more people will impact where children in my neighborhood go. [1:51:35, 1:51:55]: And will affect our property values. Lastly, there's no infrastructure to support all this growth in Henry County. It's not just our roads and schools, but things like the number of beds in our hospital, doctor's offices, grocery stores, fire and police stations. Our local governments need to stop the rapid, unmitteling. [1:51:54, 1:52:14]: Managed growth and start taking care of the residents who already live here and those that are coming now. With all of these concerns, annexing this property will not benefit the citizens of Stockbridge. Poulty will build, sell, and leave without contributing to this community. They will leave nothing but a bunch of poor. [1:52:14, 1:52:28]: Poorly built, overpriced houses on tiny plots to maximize their profits. They are not concerned with the quality of life in Henry County. We need you to be concerned with the quality of life in Henry County. [1:52:28, 1:52:43]: Growth can be controlled and done thoughtfully to benefit its citizens. And we are asking you to put the citizens of our community first by voting against annexation and rezoning. Thank you. Thank you. [1:52:44, 1:52:48]: Calm cal calm calm down folks. Calm down please. Go ahead, ma'am. Come on up. [1:52:51, 1:52:52]: Your name and address, please. [1:52:52, 1:53:12]: Hi, my name is Barber Fleischmann I live at 1026 Brandon Road. I've been there for 33 years. Uh with their excuse me, with everything that's been said, I really had notes in what I was gonna say. Um I know this is in District 5, which uh affects Elton Alexander, and a traffic study should be done every 12 months, and if they hadn't been two years. [1:53:12, 1:53:20]: Years they should do one. On a public forum, Mr. Alexander said stated that the homes are seven hundred thousand dollars. [1:53:20, 1:53:40]: And that they are not starter homes. They are luxury homes, that they will boost property values in the area, and they're in line with the Providence Harbor, and they are not in line with Providence Harbor. I feel like Mr. Alexander sort of uh misrepresents. Hold on. Ma'am, address the comments to me, please, and you really should not be mentioning his name per se in that. [1:53:40, 1:53:56]: aspect. Would this address your comments uh without using any names and and and address me please. Well I'm speaking for uh so the peop some of the residents in Providence Harbor Evo uh Reverend Sanders called me before the meeting and I know he lives in Providence Harbor and he's against this annexation and these houses. Now um [1:53:57, 1:54:11]: This h Miss Battle said at the last meeting that uh Henry County is not farmland anymore. The property across the street from me for thirty three years has always been wooded. I have three springs on my property and there was a man that um [1:54:12, 1:54:32]: um came forward at the Henry County and he was talking about the watershed and what all you know I'm I'm concerned about the watershed and how will affect my property. And so there's already this Liberty community gonna be down the road. So at some point are they going to widen Brandon Road? Are they gonna make it so the then I'm afraid my proper [1:54:32, 1:54:33]: property's gonna be [1:54:33, 1:54:39]: in in in jeopardy with that if they want to put a four lane in, want to put red lights in. Um [1:54:41, 1:54:43]: There's also um [1:54:44, 1:55:04]: Deal Horton is building homes on Miller's Mill. They were first for sale. Now they are for rent. So um I'm concerned that the houses over here will also end up in that. And the houses well Miss Battle sent me stuff in the mail and she didn't show us any photographs of these houses and so we [1:55:04, 1:55:11]: When we were at the planning and zoning committee, the first time we saw what the houses looked like were then. And I went online and printed out what she put and [1:55:12, 1:55:30]: These are not seven hundred thousand dollar homes. If you're trying to attract executives to the area, that's not gonna cut it. So are you trying to have affordable homes? Because I know y'all mentioned that a lot, or executive homes. So we are not I feel bad for the family. [1:55:30, 1:55:32]: And I understand, but [1:55:33, 1:55:53]: You know, we would like something better than what Pulty Homes is offering, something in line with Providence Harbour, as I believe M Reverend Sanders even indicated. That is a very nice subdivision. And it seems like, you know, th that's an environment of wildlife is over there. If any wildlife studies been done, it's like they want to cut down every tree. [1:55:53, 1:55:56]: And that's gonna, you know, uh add to global warming. [1:55:57, 1:56:05]: And it's like, do we not wanna have any land left? There's no no place to grow food. What are they gonna need? Lab created food, you know? I mean [1:56:05, 1:56:21]: Please, I mean, Miss Battle did say she did pulled it from Henry uh County. There has to be a reason. Is it because the standards are different in the city? This is our community. I said we've lived I've lived here for thirty three years and I have never [1:56:22, 1:56:40]: said uh anything against a c a com um building in anywhere in the county except Liberty down the street from me and now this one because I don't feel like this type of community is needed in our area. Thank you. Thank you. Ma'am name and address please. [1:56:44, 1:57:04]: Ann Fields, 329, Chase, Marion Way, McDonough. I'm here just to speak specifically to address the fact that when the Planning and Zoning Commission is voting no to the annexation cases, as they have done for several other developments, including [1:57:03, 1:57:07]: Including seventy seven and eighty seven hallway that directly impact me and my home. [1:57:09, 1:57:11]: It stops all public hearings. [1:57:12, 1:57:17]: I will be taking this with the county, with the state. It's a giant loophole. [1:57:18, 1:57:25]: Once you say no at a planning and zoning level to the annexation, the whole thing stops and everything moves to council. [1:57:26, 1:57:32]: It doesn't give the public an opportunity to have input. It doesn't give us the opportunity. [1:57:32, 1:57:34]: To have in depth discussions. [1:57:35, 1:57:44]: Even the planning and zoning chair had said in the September meeting that it would be extraordinarily helpful to the public. [1:57:44, 1:58:00]: if there were some pre-development meetings with the public. So in this case for Brandon, if Poulty would have come up and said, Hi everyone who's impacted, let's get together. I'm renting the holiday in conference room. [1:58:00, 1:58:11]: Let's have a discussion. What do you think? So that we could input without having to take up your time and our time on a 10 minute clock every single solitary month. [1:58:12, 1:58:32]: So the chairperson of the Planning and Zoning Commission was correct. If Stockbridge would take the position of forcing developers to do public presentations in public spaces like a conference center, wherever they can get that kind of space, and calling the citizens that are impacted. [1:58:32, 1:58:52]: By these projects together in the same room, presenting their ideas, listening to feedback, it would stop a lot of the go-around. It really would. That's first. But secondarily, that loophole of having the annexation squashed and the comprehensive plan, the reason. [1:58:52, 1:59:12]: Zone and any potential variance just comes to you guys for a vote is counterproductive as well. Because they're voting no to every annexation case and sending the whole package deal to you guys for an immediate vote. It's not fair to the public. It's it's just not. So we need to look at [1:59:12, 1:59:14]: Closing the loophole. [1:59:14, 1:59:29]: Because you guys could technically say, Okay, we're gonna vote on annexation and we're gonna kick back for public hearing. You guys could say that, but you don't. And and you won't unless somebody calls this out. So I'm calling it out. [1:59:31, 1:59:35]: I waited months for my chance to talk about mine. [1:59:35, 1:59:55]: My 77 and 87, and I had medical appointments and a cancer scare to deal with in another city. And you had the hearing in December, and you barely wanted to have my letter read. So this kind of unfairness to the general public, we're all impacted by all of these developments. We know [1:59:55, 2:00:15]: We have to, we know we have I'm so sorry. I know you give extra time, and I know you're hearing me out, Mayor. Right, I got you. That's what I want to talk about. Uh besides you, I got four other people. And let me make this let me hold on a second. Let me make this comment, folks. Let me make this comment. Listen up, I read it earlier. I don't need a lot of uh back talk from the audience. You get your opportunity. [2:00:15, 2:00:35]: to speak, we'll give you extra time. All right. A yay may and all this clapping and amen. You don't need to do all that. All right. I wouldn't I don't want to initiate the fact that I have the power to have you removed. I don't necessarily really want to do that. And we're going to try to try hold on, I tried not to do that. All right, so anyway, counsel, we need additional time. Are you good with additional time? I suppose. Okay, so we'll get we'll give additional time. [2:00:35, 2:00:39]: Plug in for ten more minutes, Miss uh Ms. Uh Holiday. Continue on, ma'am. [2:00:41, 2:01:01]: We're asking for fairness to the public that's impacted by all these developments. You guys can enact that. It's a very simple thing. Let's start having public open meeting forums to talk about developers' projects before they land in planning and zoning, before they land in council's lab. And can we please try to close this loophole here? Because I will work. [2:01:01, 2:01:21]: With the state to get the loophole closed. And the fact that Stockbridge is asking for people to file PUDs so they don't have to file variances is very frustrating too. Because some of those variances, the 10 feet on holloway between buildings is a barbecue dream nightmare. If somebody catches something on fire that's 10 feet from another building, [2:01:20, 2:01:40]: It's just going to cascade all the way through. So I got dogged, but I don't want to see these people get dogged with their concerns. I don't have concerns on Brandon. My concern is addressing the illegal. Did we do anything illegal? In my opinion, not having the option to talk about comprehensive. [2:01:40, 2:01:43]: plan rezone and variance in a public form. [2:01:45, 2:01:49]: It's sh immoral, it's unethical, might not be illegal. [2:01:51, 2:01:55]: Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Next individual, please, name and address. [2:02:06, 2:02:08]: My name is Miriam D. Calhoun. [2:02:09, 2:02:13]: And I live at six oh eight Creek Stone Court in Jonesboro Stockbridge. [2:02:14, 2:02:16]: And I'm here as a guest. [2:02:17, 2:02:22]: At the request of the voters and the property owners who seek me out. [2:02:24, 2:02:25]: Pretty much. [2:02:26, 2:02:28]: Everything that has been said, I won't be redundant. [2:02:30, 2:02:32]: But I feel like the fight now. [2:02:33, 2:02:36]: It can't be continue fighting with you all. [2:02:36, 2:02:38]: Because we're never gonna get anywhere. [2:02:39, 2:02:41]: So I've done some research. [2:02:43, 2:02:44]: And here's what we gonna do. [2:02:45, 2:02:47]: We're gonna get six people. [2:02:48, 2:02:51]: And we're gonna go down to the elections office. [2:02:52, 2:02:54]: And we're gonna file a petition. [2:02:55, 2:02:55]: To have [2:02:56, 2:02:58]: All of you all recall except mister Berry. [2:02:59, 2:03:00]: And Miss Barber. [2:03:00, 2:03:02]: We know how many signatures it's gonna take. [2:03:03, 2:03:05]: And if you guys wanna run again [2:03:05, 2:03:09]: You're gonna run with us in mind. We are sick. [2:03:10, 2:03:15]: And we are tired of coming down here being treated like foot soldiers. [2:03:15, 2:03:20]: And not getting anywhere because your mind is made up. Anybody can see. [2:03:21, 2:03:23]: On this addendum that we're here today. [2:03:23, 2:03:25]: Every parcel [2:03:25, 2:03:26]: Is in one district. [2:03:28, 2:03:29]: What does that tell you? [2:03:30, 2:03:32]: Somebody is making money, people. [2:03:32, 2:03:33]: And it ain't us. [2:03:34, 2:03:37]: These people can tell us that their attorneys can say whatever. [2:03:38, 2:03:39]: Attorneys lie. [2:03:40, 2:03:41]: People like [2:03:42, 2:03:43]: This council lack. [2:03:43, 2:03:55]: 'Cause they've lied to us. You all need to be recalled. People know that I'm a community activist. People know I'm gonna say what needs to be said. And you people [2:03:55, 2:04:07]: I loathe either all of you. You got to go. Okay. That's no no, come on. Next lady free comments. Next lady please, name and address. Come on. [2:04:08, 2:04:10]: That's that's uncoverful. [2:04:11, 2:04:30]: Good evening. My name is Heather Gawell and I live at 160 Mountain Laurel Drive. Um I think the reason that I'm here is I've been a resident of Henry County for 47 years and I'm horrified by what elected officials are allowing to be done. Um [2:04:31, 2:04:38]: I get the builders get to buy land. There's no law against that. I get they get to sell their land for millions of dollars. Good for them. [2:04:39, 2:04:48]: But I think what people are asking is for y'all to put thoughtful build build but build it thoughtfully and think of your current [2:04:49, 2:05:09]: Um the people that voted you into office, not the ones that are gonna move here, but the ones that currently live here and are impacted by it. Like someone already said, all these builders, they're not living in these houses and they're not living in these communities. We are. Um, my children go to Union Grove and I [2:05:09, 2:05:10]: I just I don't [2:05:11, 2:05:30]: I don't understand how y'all think that hundreds, no, it's not hundreds, it's thousands of new residents. Where are these children gonna go to school? My kids have been without a math teacher for two months. Why? Because they can't hire anybody. You can put trailers all day long. [2:05:30, 2:05:35]: In the pr in the back of the school, but if you do not have a teacher to staff it, it is meaningless. [2:05:37, 2:05:37]: I mean [2:05:39, 2:05:48]: It's the unchecked growth with no thought to infrastructure that frightens me. And if I could I had the choice I would move out. And a lot of people I think [2:05:49, 2:05:59]: feel the same way. If you can, you move out while the getting is good, but I can't move. My parents are here and until they're dead I'm stuck here. Um [2:06:01, 2:06:02]: Mm-hmm. [2:06:04, 2:06:13]: I think the other thing that bothers me, Henry County planning told them no. They told them no for a very good reason. I applaud them. [2:06:13, 2:06:24]: Um in fact the next election I'm gonna vote those same people back into office because they told them no probably for a very good reason. That's very d that was um low density. [2:06:25, 2:06:40]: What they're proposing is not low density. I have four acres of land. That's low density. Um they can call it, you know, oh well it's you know one point four two uh per acre. I'm sorry, that is not [2:06:40, 2:06:45]: They're not keeping with the surrounding area and I think that's what people would like. [2:06:46, 2:07:04]: kind of listen to people's concerns and then stop building townhouses, apartments. I didn't move here for townhouses and apartments. If I wanted to live in a townhouse or apartment I would and but I don't want to live next to them either. Um [2:07:06, 2:07:11]: I think that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Gentlemen, sir, please your name and address. [2:07:13, 2:07:14]: Okay, thank you. [2:07:17, 2:07:27]: Yes, James Henderson, uh 125 Radcliffe Drive, McDonald, Georgia. I'm also the uh eight uh Homeown Association for Providence Harbor President. [2:07:27, 2:07:47]: Uh just we had a lot of talk and and a lot of good feedback in reference to you know how everybody feels about the building going on within our community. Um I moved here about four years ago. My wife and I moved in looking for that high-end quality uh subdivision and we found it a [2:07:47, 2:08:07]: Providence Harbor. Been great so far. However, all of the additional moving into the area with uh new development, I think they're gonna devalue our area, devalue property with crime rates beginning to kick in, moving up. We have um within with the within [2:08:07, 2:08:14]: In a half a mile of the road, we have about 90, about a hundred some houses, apartment complexes coming up. [2:08:14, 2:08:16]: Offer of Lakeview Parkway. [2:08:16, 2:08:21]: And then for about a mile in a row we got um H. R. Hor Horton, D. R. Horton. [2:08:22, 2:08:24]: Hell properties up there. So we've been flooded with [2:08:25, 2:08:40]: apartments and houses and and uh it just uh devaluing our area. And so we definitely disagree with any new development coming up in this area. Thank you for your comments. Victor ma'am please name and address please. [2:08:45, 2:08:59]: Faith Elaine Henderson, 125 Radcliffe, McDonough, Georgia, Providence Harbor. Uh we heard here tonight that the houses that they're going to be building are equivalent to the homes that we live in in Providence Harbor, and they're nowhere near. We have four-side brick. [2:08:59, 2:09:19]: Um the the layout in a lot of our homes are 7,000 square feet. We have elevators in some of our houses. Um we have uh an area where we are content with not having a lot of crime currently, and we would like to stay that way. Um so um the the fact that they [2:09:19, 2:09:25]: haven't maybe some of the houses that they shared with you guys, um maybe they didn't show those pictures of the four-side brick. [2:09:25, 2:09:35]: here tonight. Maybe that's in their catalogue somewhere. But the houses, the homes that they're putting across the street from us, nowhere near matches [2:09:35, 2:09:41]: uh what we're what we live in and there's no way there's no way an executive [2:09:41, 2:10:01]: uh or a president of an organization, which we have some retired presidents of organizations and businesses in our community will buy a home across the street from us for eight and seven hundred looking like that. There's just absolutely no way. Council Mayor, thank you for your time. Thank you, appreciate it. Okay. On that note, I see no one else alive. [2:10:01, 2:10:21]: So I'm gonna close the public hearing. The public hearing is now closed. And I need Mr. Anderson and um Ms. Battle. Uh please come back to the podium. And uh I don't know if Mr. Martin may want to come back too. We'll see. We're gonna go down some of these things that were brought up here, try to get some clarification here. Um [2:10:21, 2:10:41]: One now one of the things that uh I I believe I mentioned the last time we had this type of a meeting last month to deal with another area off of Patrick Henry Boulevard about in reference to transportation roads and schools. And if I'll say this and then and then I will have someone maybe straighten me out if I say this wrong. But what it amounts [2:10:41, 2:11:01]: to legally for the store of j state of Georgia, we cannot deny development based on road structure, infrastructure, or or schools in this aspect. We have no control over um what the schools do, how to hire, what they need to build, and they have to get funding and and educational ESPLOS money, things of this nature. [2:11:01, 2:11:21]: to expand uh their their their campuses. And so we cannot deny development based on schools and population of kids and roads or lack thereof, certain type of road network. If I stand corrected, great. If not, please straighten me out. Is that correct? No. Yes, sir. You're correct. Okay. All right. So [2:11:21, 2:11:36]: Let's try to put that to bed. Now, in reference to the um the watershed area, I think Miss Battle mentioned something about the watershed earlier, but uh this property, I mean what what can you explain the watershed or environmental study and things? Was that ever done? How was that done? What was going on with that? [2:11:36, 2:11:42]: So a a c a couple of things with regards to that. It is not unusual. [2:11:42, 2:11:45]: to do development on property that has a stream. [2:11:45, 2:11:46]: Okay. [2:11:46, 2:11:53]: This property has a stream that is what is largely responsible for on the wetlands and the floodplain. [2:11:53, 2:11:56]: we are not developing within that area. [2:11:57, 2:11:58]: The rules in the county. [2:11:59, 2:12:01]: And the rules in the city are identical. [2:12:03, 2:12:06]: The city's code is somewhat based on the county's code. [2:12:06, 2:12:07]: Okay. [2:12:07, 2:12:10]: So even how we calculate the the density. [2:12:11, 2:12:11]: No different. [2:12:12, 2:12:18]: So we didn't come into this space because we were trying to get out of protecting the environment. [2:12:18, 2:12:22]: The environmental requirements in the county and the city. [2:12:22, 2:12:23]: are the same. [2:12:23, 2:12:27]: We are required to have a seventy five foot undisturbed buffer. [2:12:28, 2:12:32]: from the top of resisted vegetation of the stream. [2:12:32, 2:12:40]: Additionally, we have another twenty-five feet of undisturbed, or not undisturbed, uh uh uh unimpro um [2:12:41, 2:13:01]: Impervious area. In other words, we cannot put any pervious paving within the next 25 feet. So it's basically a hundred-foot protective buffer along um the top of the creek. From the top of the creek 100 feet back is protected. That's no different. [2:13:01, 2:13:03]: different in the county than in the city. [2:13:04, 2:13:15]: The other component is we're not building in any of the floodplain area or any of the wetland areas because those are protected areas. So we have to protect those areas. [2:13:16, 2:13:27]: Everything that we're building is outside of the protected areas. So in the area that is protected where the trees are, a lot of the trees are that were mentioned, none of them will be removed. [2:13:28, 2:13:48]: Whatever wildlife, whatever's over in that space will remain. But it's no different than any other property that has been vacant, that has trees on it. Are there, you know, does a deer or something like that run through? Of course. We all any place you live around here, you're gonna have those kind of issues. I don't care what property you go onto. [2:13:48, 2:13:57]: too. But are there endangered species and other things like that on the property? Not to our knowledge. There has been nothing that has indicated that there is any of those issues on the property. [2:13:57, 2:14:07]: There was a environmental study done in terms of delineating the wetlands and the floodplain. And that has been presented and provided to staff. [2:14:08, 2:14:17]: We would have to do that regardless. I don't care whether we're in Henry or whether we are in Stockbridge. The same information gets passed along. [2:14:18, 2:14:24]: So we have to do what we have to do to maintain and protect those things. There's certain certifications and things. [2:14:24, 2:14:29]: During the land development процес that we will have to show and prove that we are not. [2:14:29, 2:14:32]: negatively impacting that [2:14:32, 2:14:33]: Ікосистем [2:14:34, 2:14:35]: That's a part of that hundred foot. [2:14:36, 2:14:37]: That's the bottom line. [2:14:37, 2:14:39]: The areas that we're building in. [2:14:39, 2:14:55]: Um will we have to remove some trees? Yes, but we still have to rem um abide by the city's tree um preservation ordinance. So whatever it is that we're doing within those spaces, um we will have to still abide by the city rules with regards to that. [2:14:56, 2:15:07]: So um we don't believe in any way we are negatively impacting the environment any differently than any other project that comes through, whether it's the city or the county, and I do projects in both. [2:15:08, 2:15:17]: Where we have to protect the stream because it is not only state law, but I mean not only local law, but it's also state law and to a certain extent federal law. [2:15:18, 2:15:38]: Okay, Mr. Anderson, in reference to the Planning Commission, what I understand, and you straighten me out here, Planning Commission will get will be able to hear his case. And whether they say yes or no, it's still gonna come before the council for our approval or disapproval. We over we can override the the planning commission. That's our prerogative to do so. And that's but they've they've they get the first idea, first [2:15:38, 2:15:50]: s cut at this. And we may or may may agree or may disagree. No, even if they approve something we h we may disagree. And so that's part of the process and we're following the process to the letter to T. [2:15:50, 2:15:50]: Correct? [2:15:50, 2:15:57]: Yes, sir, that's correct. The Planning Commission, uh it's only a recommendation just like staff's analysis is just a recommendation. [2:15:57, 2:16:14]: Okay. Now, Ms. Battle, somehow uh before this all d did you do any type of redo uh pre development type of planning with the with the community, anything along those lines that was mentioned here? Well, I was actually looking. Um when I look back in in my files, we did not do anything recently, I will say. Okay. [2:16:15, 2:16:35]: Started this project has been going on for so long. We did actually have a meeting. I've got the list of notices that were sent out. The date of the meeting was in December 2021. We sent notices out to over 600 people. We had roughly about 10 to 15 people that showed up in the meeting, and I can give the names of those individuals necessary. [2:16:35, 2:16:55]: Um we did not have a meeting after that. We went to um planning commission or um ZAB over with um the county. Um we were trying to work through issues. It wasn't the staff that's not supportive of the project. Um we had some issues in terms of delays and time and some of the layout questions and we just made the decision. [2:16:55, 2:17:15]: Particularly because of the death of a couple of the landowners, that the process was just going to take too long for us to work through the issues. And so therefore we thought it was better served to come into the city where we knew not only would we be able to move through and get a yes or a no from the city factor. [2:17:15, 2:17:17]: Faster, but additionally. [2:17:17, 2:17:20]: Once if we were [2:17:27, 2:17:33]: it's benefits to being in the city. And so we think that this was the right place to be and the right move to have made. [2:17:34, 2:17:41]: Mr. Ryan, comprehensive plan. We're one stand up. Comprehensive plan. We're following the comprehensive and properly as as we agreed, as we s laid out. [2:17:42, 2:17:43]: Yes, sir. We are. [2:17:44, 2:18:04]: Okay, Miss Battle, in reference And it should be noted that we're downzoning because half of the property is medium density residential. Okay. The other half is low density residential. We did not ask to change it all to medium density. We actually asked to down zone it in a sense to all low density residential. [2:18:04, 2:18:11]: So we did not go for the most intense use. We went for the lesser because we knew that we were staying under two units per acre. [2:18:11, 2:18:31]: Okay, well no well I think my last question for right now anyway. Uh it was mentioned I believe it's Providence Harbor. Is that the community? Is that okay. So somehow four four sided brick and things of this nature, do you not have that in your plan for this particular community? So so let's talk about that. And I and I can certainly have have um um Rick Martin [2:18:31, 2:18:34]: Come up here as well. This is what we know. [2:18:35, 2:18:41]: The price and and and I can give this because I've just experienced this moment. [2:18:42, 2:18:55]: I bought a home. I I don't go into my personal list very much. It wasn't as type originally. What's up with the but I literally just bought a home. Okay. Um, and I have many builder clients. Okay. And I bought a home in Smoke Rise in DeCav County. Okay. [2:18:56, 2:18:58]: The price for my home that I bought. [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: Which is [2:19:00, 2:19:03]: Over four thousand square feet. My house is [2:19:03, 2:19:05]: Almost five thousand square feet. Mm-hmm. [2:19:06, 2:19:17]: My builder client told me, Michelle, I can't build that four sided brick home now for less than two hundred and fifty plus dollars a square foot. [2:19:18, 2:19:19]: You bought it. [2:19:20, 2:19:24]: For about a hundred and fifty dollars a square foot. Okay. Okay? [2:19:25, 2:19:28]: What people have now that they have bought. [2:19:29, 2:19:31]: To rebuild that home. [2:19:31, 2:19:39]: Would be way more expensive than what the value of the home is to them today. Builders can't build. [2:19:39, 2:19:44]: that same four-sided brick home for what they could sell their four-sided brick home. [2:19:45, 2:20:02]: And so, oops. And so um when we're looking at homes now and they say, well, those homes aren't gonna be worth wrong. Those homes are selling at a price per square foot that is higher than what they could sell their homes for today. Okay. Okay. [2:20:03, 2:20:07]: Because the cost of building homes has increased. [2:20:07, 2:20:19]: Everything we went through the whole lumber issue where lumber prices were skyrocketing. You couldn't even buy lumber to put on your garage because the price of the the lumber was so high. [2:20:20, 2:20:29]: the supply line that was coming in has made significant delays. We are just now rebounding from many of the issues that were happening during COVID. [2:20:30, 2:20:50]: So the price of building a home is far more expensive for the homes that Poulty is going to be building than it would be in past times. So those homes are priced higher. They cost more to build than the houses that many of us are living in today. We wouldn't be able to buy them. Well, some might be able. [2:20:50, 2:21:10]: But some of us would not be able to buy that same home at$250 plus dollars a square foot for a and actually be more than that for a four-sided brick home. So the quality of the homes that we're building, um, Rick can talk to, um, but we believe that the quality of these homes and what the price points on these homes will be, will be in the range that we have. [2:21:10, 2:21:30]: Have indicated even though they're not four-sided brick homes. Will these individuals be offered four-sided brick homes? Of course. Pulti would sell them if every person that came through there wanted a four-sided brick home, you don't think they would sell it to them? Sure they would, because it would it would um they would be um pay more money for them at the end of the day. Right. But those homes would be far [2:21:29, 2:21:33]: far more expensive than what the price points are that we're talking about now. [2:21:33, 2:21:35]: But I'll let Rick can finish there. [2:21:35, 2:21:55]: Thank you, Mayor. Members of the Council. One one uh remark I'd like to make in in addition to what Ms. Battles just said is the current home buyers today are making trade-offs relative to external finishes like full brick for upgrades and standards of living inside the home that you can't see by looking at these pictures. [2:21:55, 2:22:15]: Uh trim packages like uh City Councilman Alexander mentioned, those kind of things, upgrading appliances, finished rooms and and and fashions that aren't customary for a traditional home are choices that we're seeing across the market, not just here in Atlanta, but all over the country. So there's a lot of things that you really [2:22:15, 2:22:29]: really don't translate into those kind of decisions, especially as it comes to kitchen and bath upgrades. Those are things that most consumers recognize translate to increase in value on the resale and something we're very keen to. [2:22:30, 2:22:35]: All right. On that note, those are all my questions thus far. Uh Mr. Alizan, you probably have something on your mind, sir. [2:22:35, 2:22:55]: Yeah, I certainly do. And please believe there's gonna be some requirement for brick. Okay. Certainly we already discussed that. So certainly there'll be some flexibility in terms of um, you know, l allowing some people to do pr uh craftsman style, but certainly there will be some requirement for brick construction on [2:22:55, 2:23:15]: the homes in the neighborhood to match up with what we did with Liberty, to match up with what is across the street uh at Providence Harbor. So certainly that is uh certainly in line with where we're trying to go. But let's make it perfectly clear, okay? Providence Harbor is an outlier over there, okay? It's a really great neighborhood. [2:23:15, 2:23:35]: I know the builder who built those customs homes over there. The neighborhood that we approved down the street, the Liberty community was about four hundred thousand. Is that correct? That was in the four hundred thousand range. Right, between four and five, right. That's what we approved them at. We're looking at six to eight hundred based on current. [2:23:35, 2:23:48]: Right, certainly. There'll be somewhere between that four hundred, four hundred to five hundred range somewhere in there. That was when we started, but now I'm saying they're gonna be even more. [2:23:48, 2:24:08]: Right, I cer I certainly understand that. The Clark Meadow neighborhood is somewhere in the four fifty range, four hundred, four hundred and fifty range in that neighborhood. That's the neighborhood that's on Brandon Road. All of those homes, Moss Point on that neighborhood, um, you know, s down the street as well, those homes are comparably priced. Certainly [2:24:08, 2:24:28]: We want to do something across the street that's comfortable. And this is the middle area between where the Liberty community is, Clark Meadow is, and this is a step up from Clark Meadow. It's a step up from the Liberty community. It's not quite where Providence Harbor is, because Providence Harbor is [2:24:28, 2:24:42]: Custom homes. Some of those homes will sell over sixty units in comparison to some. Right. And some of those homes would sell for over a million dollars. So let's let's let's say we're not good we're not gonna be able to get there. No, we're not gonna be able to get there. [2:24:42, 2:25:02]: We're gonna be in a position where we're gonna do something very nice where young urban professionals or seniors or well-appointed seniors will be able to move to upgrade their home from where they are to stay in the city limits. Cause right now we have people who are moving outside of moving to Hampton, moving to McDonough, because right now [2:25:02, 2:25:22]: Now we don't have anything to offer them to live in the city limits of Stockbridge. Speaking in regards to the school system, do we certainly entrust the school board with uh educating our students? First of all, there's a brand new school under construction called Birch Elementary. [2:25:22, 2:25:42]: Willow Lane that school will open actually for the next school year. The new principle has already been put into place. We very well know that there's going to be a$45 million STEM school that's going to be built right across the street from City Hall by Stockbridge Elementary. The school board has a [2:25:42, 2:26:02]: billion dollar budget with it with it with in combination with East PLOSS and what they have to outlay. They have a plan to expand and the plan that we saw that was divulged to us, there's 5,000 additional student capacity that will be added over the next few years in order to do that. [2:26:02, 2:26:08]: The area is growing. The very same reason that you moved here to Henry County, it always [2:26:08, 2:26:28]: It it just befuddles me when people move here two or three years ago and then they want to stop everybody else from moving here. You just moved here yourself. Now you want to stop everybody else from moving here. The idea is what is really going on is that there's so many people moving here that the market has driven us to where we're [2:26:28, 2:26:48]: We are today. Right now, there's a very few homes that are available for sale because of what is going on with the demand with so many people moving to uh Metro Atlanta. But certainly uh we do want something that's gonna hit that middle gap, in my opinion, between where the Liberty community is, Clark. [2:26:48, 2:26:53]: Excuse me. [2:26:54, 2:27:14]: Please keep it down, folks. But between the community uh of where Providence Harbor is, uh right across the street. And certainly uh again, we don't want to be able to price people out of the market who wanna move here. These aren't affordable these aren't affordable homes at six hundred to eight hundred thousand dollars with the trim. Tell us about the [2:27:14, 2:27:20]: me about the square footage of the particular product. Again, they go up to what how what square feet? [2:27:20, 2:27:40]: Up to four thousand square feet on the Up to four thousand square feet. That's not a starter home. And and then again my recommendation is that we do uh a required we certainly want to have options, but there'll be at least fifty percent of the homes that will be brick. Fifty percent of the home, the other fifty percent would be uh [2:27:40, 2:28:00]: uh you know allowed up to the homeowner, but certainly to be in keeping with what we have uh in the area, a requirement to have some form of brick in that area would certainly be uh accord, because basically that would give us at least half of the homes that would match up with the brick facade of the ones across the street. But of course [2:27:59, 2:28:15]: Of course, we cannot get there in terms of Providence Harbor being a custom neighborhood and as you say there's sixty other homes, but it'll meet the gap between the two neighborhoods and fit in in that way. We'll accept that condition, the fifty percent. [2:28:16, 2:28:17]: Yes, ma'am. [2:28:22, 2:28:23]: Three side. [2:28:23, 2:28:43]: This will be four side brick on fifty percent of the homes will be four size brick. Now the other homes will be certainly will be um again allowed the flexibility and the homeowner to choose them. If the rest of the homeowners choose brick, then we'll have a hundred percent brick neighborhood. Well stand by I he said four sides, but I believe Miss Battle you top off your. [2:28:43, 2:28:44]: I said. [2:28:45, 2:29:05]: Are you are you getting are you all receptive four sided or not? Yes or no? The the only question I'd have about the four sided brick w is whether there's any latitude to break up the architectural detail on the fronts, uh to stay away from that barracks effect when you uh and I use that as a term when we accident in other words, some uh [2:29:05, 2:29:08]: A few accent materials like around the the peaks and things like that. [2:29:08, 2:29:28]: And the in the uh uh details uh the details around the windows and such things as that certainly, but the but the the idea is to have four sides brick. You understand what is traditionally known as four side brick. Yeah. Okay. Well th I guess what where I'm splitting where I'm splitting the hairs is four side [2:29:28, 2:29:31]: Of continuous brick or four sides of brick. [2:29:32, 2:29:47]: Continuous brick. So you want a solid brick wall. I want a solid brick wall. I want to give you some flexibility as you say around the windows and the trim and stuff like that. But what a traditional brick home is,'cause if you do go across the street, Providence Harbor is pretty much a hundred percent brick. [2:29:48, 2:29:54]: We'll try to look at the thing. Anybody on council have any agreement, disagreement of that that [2:29:55, 2:29:58]: Request, we're good with that request? Mayor. Anybody? Yes, ma'am? [2:29:58, 2:30:08]: I I just wanted I had a couple questions because our code actually had specified at one point Councilman Alexander had already [2:30:09, 2:30:13]: Um prior to did we change something where we were stopped requiring brick? [2:30:13, 2:30:17]: And I know I have spoken in the past of the aesthetics [2:30:17, 2:30:37]: um and the facade designs of custom homes um are unique, whether it's stone, whether you know, you have this hardy plank look with the stone and the brick to make them unique, um are some of my concerns. The rest of the homes would be brick stone. [2:30:37, 2:30:49]: So here's one here that has all brick well l let's say all the sides were brick too, but on the front over the garage there's um board and batten. Is that a problem? [2:30:50, 2:30:56]: I would I wouldn't think that would be a problem, no. Okay. Um and Ricky was saying at three. [2:30:57, 2:30:59]: Must have went down the way for the three card orange ones. [2:31:00, 2:31:02]: But you're talking about the sides and the back. [2:31:02, 2:31:08]: Mm so so really councilman that I was referring to with the uh [2:31:09, 2:31:14]: The dormers in addition to the garage. So it kind of breaks up the architecture. [2:31:14, 2:31:21]: The one that you showed me, maybe like the over the garage right there, but certainly I wouldn't but you wouldn't want no. [2:31:22, 2:31:22]: No. [2:31:23, 2:31:23]: There. [2:31:24, 2:31:24]: Okay. [2:31:26, 2:31:31]: Is that is that acceptable? Do you councilman or anybody else? I mean that this type of design [2:31:31, 2:31:46]: I wanna hit the middle where we meet Providence Harbor in fifty percent of the homes in terms of the brick component composition and then it fits in with the rest of the community, which is the Liberty and Clark Middle. So it makes the makes the middle. That's the goal. [2:31:47, 2:31:48]: Okay. [2:31:48, 2:31:51]: Is that that's uh understood with you all? Yes. [2:31:52, 2:31:58]: All right, do you still have questions? I do. Um if if m um Ryan Mr. Anderson, come to the podium, please. [2:32:02, 2:32:22]: Mr. Anderson, um, you've heard and I I hear and see on social media as well as here, um, sometimes uh the some of the constituents have a concern that properties are being annexed into the city of Stockbridge because we have more laxed design codes. Have you had the opportunity? [2:32:22, 2:32:28]: opportunity to look at Henry County's code versus Stockbridge Code. Is it laxed at all? [2:32:29, 2:32:32]: No, it's not. Um they're they're very similar. [2:32:32, 2:32:47]: Okay. Um, is it not true that we um pretty much modeled we tried to do something very similar so we all could be more a little bit more cohesive. Didn't we amend that recently? Could you uh elaborate on it for a minute? Okay. [2:32:48, 2:33:05]: Rem a few years ago s um Henry County used to handle um planning and zoning and and um permitting for the city of Stockbridge. And back then um the UD the UDC was based was primarily the same thing as as Henry County's. [2:33:05, 2:33:12]: Mm-hmm. And so when they update it, they they vaguely changed some things, but most of the design criteria and things of that nature are still the same. [2:33:13, 2:33:26]: Okay. But we added a little bit more of an upscale. Yes, we did. We have some pretty strict stringent uh design criteria, especially within our overlay districts. And uh right now um the whole for front elevation has to be brick, stone. [2:33:27, 2:33:36]: or high end stucco and um you have to have a water a brick water table around the the sides and the back. So our design criteria on residential houses are are pretty stringent. [2:33:36, 2:33:42]: Right. And so these that the designs that are made right now are in compliance with that. [2:33:42, 2:33:45]: Yes, but they presented are in are in compliance with our current code. [2:33:46, 2:33:56]: Right. And uh Henry County's code is not as strict with those codes and the percentages of brick. And Miss Battle, I know you have experience in both. [2:33:56, 2:34:16]: Uh I can. Um Henry County we have had flexibility with the types of facade. Um I quite honestly find you all's facade requirements to be much tighter. Um when we came through on the Liberty one, um we were certainly looking to do a different product. It ended up having to be four sided brick and that was something the developer basically had to swallow. [2:34:16, 2:34:24]: That was not where they started at. So it is very clear that we're not building a lesser product. [2:34:24, 2:34:30]: in Stockbridge. Um you all have made it very clear and quite honestly it is many of the [2:34:31, 2:34:45]: cities on the South Side that have made it very clear that they want the same quality product, if not better product than has been placed. And so that is pretty consistently in all the spaces that I go to. [2:34:45, 2:34:49]: Thank you. I I have no further questions about that. I just wanted to put that rumor to rest. [2:34:51, 2:34:53]: Anybody else? Any other questions from the council? Ms. Barbagoya, please. [2:34:54, 2:35:06]: One of the things that really bothers me though, um, and I get it, um, I am more citizen focused, but business and developer friendly as well. [2:35:06, 2:35:10]: But one of the things that bothers me is with these developments [2:35:11, 2:35:13]: None of us live near. [2:35:13, 2:35:15]: This area. [2:35:15, 2:35:15]: But those [2:35:16, 2:35:17]: I live close. [2:35:17, 2:35:18]: Closer. [2:35:18, 2:35:20]: To this area. [2:35:20, 2:35:22]: than any other council member here. [2:35:23, 2:35:24]: No we're not going to be able to do that. [2:35:25, 2:35:28]: What really bothers me is [2:35:29, 2:35:31]: Not so much as the development, it's [2:35:31, 2:35:34]: My concern with the homeowners for [2:35:34, 2:35:36]: Who live in close proximity? [2:35:36, 2:35:39]: Those homeowners not having an opportunity. [2:35:40, 2:35:42]: To be able to speak with you. [2:35:43, 2:35:44]: What I found though [2:35:44, 2:35:48]: Um, even with those developments that the council approved in my district last year. [2:35:49, 2:35:53]: When I got the opportunity to talk with those homeowners who live in close proximity, [2:35:54, 2:35:56]: I was able to explain to them that [2:35:57, 2:36:00]: The property owner or landowner has a right to sell. [2:36:01, 2:36:03]: And of course the developer has a right to build. [2:36:04, 2:36:11]: What I found is if they are able to provide some feedback or input into what's happening [2:36:12, 2:36:13]: You get them to buy into it. [2:36:14, 2:36:15]: But to just shut them out of it. [2:36:16, 2:36:18]: Or not even give them an opportunity to [2:36:19, 2:36:21]: Kind of share their thoughts. [2:36:21, 2:36:22]: That concerns me. [2:36:23, 2:36:24]: I don't live. [2:36:25, 2:36:26]: In close proximity. [2:36:27, 2:36:28]: To this area. [2:36:28, 2:36:31]: I'm the closest council person that does though. [2:36:32, 2:36:35]: But I'm just concerned about those homeowners who live in close proximity. [2:36:36, 2:36:37]: That may be able to share the [2:36:38, 2:36:40]: Just some suggestions. [2:36:40, 2:36:41]: Um [2:36:41, 2:36:42]: It's their property. [2:36:42, 2:36:43]: That's affected. [2:36:44, 2:36:44]: As well. [2:36:45, 2:36:47]: I'm not saying I I'm opposed to this development. [2:36:48, 2:36:51]: I support voluntary annexations. [2:36:52, 2:36:53]: I want to be clear about that. [2:36:54, 2:36:54]: Yes, sir. [2:36:55, 2:36:56]: The uh [2:36:57, 2:37:17]: The uh um organization of community interaction meetings is a regular practice of ours. We do it all over the country, including uh uh here in Atlanta, on a regular basis. And uh but I must admit that's come at a um uh much less frequently with COVID and the related concerns. [2:37:17, 2:37:24]: Concerns with COVID in some communities who would meet and would not meet. But it's a regular practice of ours, and we agree with your observation. [2:37:25, 2:37:45]: And again, we we did have a meeting with regards to this. It was a while ago, and I will take responsibility for that. But at the same time, we've gone through the Planning Commission meeting in um Henry County where we heard feedback during that time. We've tried to adjust ourselves based on the feedback that we have been hearing when we [2:37:45, 2:37:54]: we came to the meeting last week or or last month, one of the things and we we talked about whether we were gonna have another kind of intra meeting, but quite honestly, based on [2:37:55, 2:38:09]: Some of the things that were said at the last meeting, um, it did not seem that there was any room for compromise. And I'm just being being frank. Um there were some who made it very clear that even coming into the city was not [2:38:10, 2:38:30]: worth it. You know, why why bother to even come into the city? It's, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So there were things that were kind of said that said, look, people have kind of set themselves on this one. If I had to go back and do it again, I probably would have more community meetings um to see if we could find some place of commonality. But I think we have gone past that moment, unfortunately, on this particular matter. [2:38:30, 2:38:36]: Yeah, go ahead, please, Mr. Alzheimer's. Uh at this point I think you know we've Are you done, Miss Barber? [2:38:37, 2:38:57]: We've gone to the point that we've exhausted uh pretty much everything that we've uh talked about. Now, Ryan, would you come back to the podium? Uh so is this appropriate for the conditions at this point or is this just the annexation portion? Uh w what do you say, Councilman? Is this the portion for just the annexation or is this the portion for the [2:38:57, 2:39:06]: rezoning or is it all gonna be voted on at one the annexation comp plan and um rezoning will be voted on to separate separately. Separately. But we heard it all as one case. [2:39:07, 2:39:25]: Right. So this first plan here, the first one uh will call for the the annexation would have to go first. That's right. It's out is outlined on our agenda. Before we go that's I'm just saying, but but but when we do that, the first one would be the annexation. There's no conditions in that, it's just the annexation. Yes. Yes. Okay. [2:39:25, 2:39:45]: Gentlemen, do you have any comments at all down this end? You're both good. Okay. If there are no other comments in council, then we'll do exactly that. We're gonna go through the process, put uh continue on. I have here annexation case AX 2023-05. Once again, it's council district five, council consideration request for annexation of certain property on birth. [2:39:45, 2:39:46]: Brennan wrote. [2:39:46, 2:39:54]: To allow for the construction of a single family detached residential development subdivision. The applicant's Poulty Homes Incorporated CO Battle Group PC. [2:39:55, 2:40:05]: The property contains four parcels of land, landlots two and three of District Seven, and we are listed bel which is listed below one hundred and thirty four point three one acres in on Corpia Henry County. [2:40:06, 2:40:14]: 931 Brandon Road, parcel 088-02055000, contains five acres. [2:40:14, 2:40:34]: One zero zero Brandon Road, parcel zero eight eight zero two zero five seven zero zero zero to include the southwestern track only, which contains twenty nine point zero nine acres. Parcel uh number zero eight eight das zero two zero five six zero zero zero contains eighty seven point three three acres. Proper [2:40:34, 2:40:49]: Parcel number zero seven zero dash zero one zero zero five zero zero one contains twelve point eight nine acres. And of course it was presented by the community development staff, Mr. Ryan Anderson. Counsel, is there a motion to accept this annexation case? Mayor. Yes, sir. [2:40:49, 2:41:03]: I just I got one more quick. Mr. Anderson, the staff's recommendation was what? Approval. The staff's recommendation was approval as this is be a considered to be a quality addition with this annexation, is that correct? [2:41:03, 2:41:11]: In staff's opinion, yes. Absolutely. And that I would like to make a motion to approve uh as the crowd as described by you, Mayor. [2:41:11, 2:41:12]: All right, is there a second to the motion? [2:41:14, 2:41:17]: I second. Miss again I second then. Okay. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [2:41:19, 2:41:39]: Unanimous decision. Okay, thank you very much. Now we have comprehensive plan amendment case CP dash two zero two three-two excuse me dash zero six located council district five, council of consideration requests a comprehensive plan amendment to assign the future land use designation of low density residential to certain property on Brandon Road to allow for construction of a single [2:41:39, 2:41:59]: Single family detached residential development with a subdivision. Applicants, Polte Group, Incorporated C O Battle Group PC. The property contains four parcels of land lots two and three of District Seven and are listed below of one thirty-four point three one acres in incorporated Henry County. Once again, nine four one Brandon Rome, parcel dash zero eight eight. [2:41:58, 2:42:18]: 1100 Brandon Road, Parcel 088-02057000 to include the southwestern track only, which contains 29.09 acres. Parcel 088-02056000 contains. [2:42:18, 2:42:34]: contains eighty seven point three three acres. Parcel number zero seven zero dash zero one zero zero five zero zero one contains one excuse me twelve point eight nine acres. Once again, council I need a uh motion to accept or approve this comprehensive planned amendment. [2:42:34, 2:42:36]: So move. Is there a second to the motion? [2:42:37, 2:42:40]: I second. Okay. Ms. Ken. All favor, please indicate. [2:42:41, 2:42:55]: I have a question, Mayor Ford. Really quick. What's the question? Are there multiple entrance and exit points for this, or is there just one entrance point and exit point? There's two, but let me double check, yes. [2:42:56, 2:43:02]: Okay. Um wait a minute. Two entrances. Two means of ingress and egress. Your [2:43:04, 2:43:11]: All right, the motion was made by Mr. Alexander, so moved by and seconded by Ms. Kant. All in favor, once again, the motion, please indicate. [2:43:12, 2:43:32]: Shenar's decision, thank you very much. Rezoning case RZ-2023-07. Once again, Council District 5. Council consideration to request over rezoning to assign the zoning district of SR, suburban residential district, to certain property on Brandon Road to allow for the construction of a single family detached residential development. [2:43:32, 2:43:52]: Which is a subdivision applicant, Polte Group Incorporated, CO Battle Law PC, probably contains four parcels of landlots two and three of District 7, as listed in and below 134.31 acres in the corporate Henry County area. Of course, once again, 941 Brandon Road, parcel number 0. [2:43:52, 2:44:12]: 088-02055000 contains five acres one one zero zero Brandon Road parcel zero eight eight dash zero two zero five seven zero zero zero to clue the Southwestern track only which contains twenty nine point oh nine acres parcel zero eight eight dash zero two zero five six zero zero zero contains [2:44:12, 2:44:27]: contains eighty seven point three three acres, parcel zero seven zero-one zero zero five zero zero one contains twelve point eight nine acres. Once again counsel need a motion to approve it or or deny this particular um motion, excuse me. [2:44:27, 2:44:35]: This actual r rezoning case. Uh Mayor, I want to the clerk, Miss Colliday, did you have the conditions that we were adding? [2:44:39, 2:44:42]: Well, the condition was for the fifty percent brick, correct? [2:44:46, 2:44:47]: Mm-hmm. [2:44:52, 2:44:59]: Right, but fifty percent would be required to be brick. And then the other fifty percent it would be up to the buyer. [2:45:01, 2:45:05]: Right. We have a ten foot multi use path along the frontage of Brandon Road, is that correct? [2:45:07, 2:45:13]: Ryan. Sir, can you repeat it? We have a ten foot multi use path along the frontage of Brandon Road. [2:45:13, 2:45:15]: Yes, that's what they agreed to do. [2:45:15, 2:45:17]: They have agreed to do that. Yes. [2:45:19, 2:45:21]: Yes, current condition. Okay. [2:45:22, 2:45:26]: Okay, uh flock can uh would Miss Batter, y'all come back up, please. [2:45:28, 2:45:28]: Sir. [2:45:31, 2:45:42]: Can we allow Mr Aaron Mr Anderson to read all the recommendations into the record? Well he certainly will. Well I just wanna make sure we get the one added ones. Councilman Al Chanderson. Going back to the brick. [2:45:43, 2:45:43]: Okay. [2:45:44, 2:45:50]: Is there the flexibility still there around the window? That needs to be stated. Right. [2:45:51, 2:45:55]: There's flexibility around the windows and above the garage. Yeah. [2:45:58, 2:46:12]: No, we asking for uh we've asking for as the new code has advanced, uh flock cameras to be uh surveillance cameras to be placed at the entrances of new subdivisions. [2:46:19, 2:46:25]: Okay, you're in d you're in accordance with that. Okay, those conditions will be added and read the other conditions in as well. [2:46:25, 2:46:45]: Okay. The first condition, the proposed subdivision shall be constructed according to a design which is similar to the one that is shown on the applicant submitted site plan entitled Conceptual Plan SR Zoning Brandon Road, which was which was prepared by Falcon Design Consultants, dated 129-22 and representing sheet one point. [2:46:45, 2:46:46]: No. [2:46:47, 2:47:07]: Um this is a a condition that um we usually don't play Sam, but uh the rezoning should not be approved unless the applicants requested variance V R twenty three oh four to reduce the required minimum front yard setback from fifty to thirty-five feet is approved before sim simultaneously with the approval of RZ. [2:47:07, 2:47:22]: The developer shall preserve the existing cemetery on the property, including the provision of unobstructive access to it, the provision of protective buffering around it, and the regular maintenance of the cemetery grounds. [2:47:25, 2:47:27]: Yeah. Yes, yes, ma'am. [2:47:33, 2:47:53]: Um the rezoning shall not be approved unless the applicant obtains an updated letter from Henry County Water Authority, which states that adequate water and sanitary sew are available or could be made available to serve the subdivision and that the developer complies with all requirements in a timely management. As recommended by the findings of the applicant traffic impact study, [2:47:53, 2:48:10]: Developers shall stop install the right turn lane, deceleration lanes at both site driveways along Brennan Road. The rezoning should not be approved unless the applicant submits an environmental impact study which provides satisfactory environmental data. So they they've complied with that. [2:48:11, 2:48:12]: Yeah. [2:48:16, 2:48:36]: So I'd like to just make a statement with regards to uh the the conditions and just make sure we're clear on them. The one with regards to the variants, um you all will be hearing the variants. I would ask for that um condition number two to be removed because that's a separate matter, whether we get the variants to um [2:48:36, 2:48:56]: Push the set back from 30 from 50 feet forward to 35 feet. Staff was making the zoning conditioned on us getting the variance. So I would ask for that to be removed. With regards to the environmental study, we have now provided information to [2:48:56, 2:49:16]: staff that we believe has addressed that issue and so I would ask that that either be modified or removed because we've we've complied with that. I would ask that we add because it's not here in the recommendation but it is on our site plan the 10 foot size [2:49:16, 2:49:21]: the sidewalk along the frontage of um Brandon Road. [2:49:22, 2:49:31]: It's not necessary because it was conditioned on the site plan. Oh, well he said it was conditioned on the site plan so you don't need it. But and if you want that extra assurance, we're okay with you adding that. [2:49:31, 2:49:51]: We certainly want to make sure that it's in there and to uh extra assurance. Now you said that you were okay with do you they provided the impact study, environmental impact study, and then you were okay with removing that condition. You're okay with it? Yes. Yes, sir. Um we received the environmental impact study today and uh we went through it and it was satisfactory. And I also [2:49:51, 2:50:04]: So uh I don't know how that condition still was left in there. Usually uh I take those out uh contingent on approval of another zoning action. So we really don't want that in there anyway. And we talked about the flock camera. So it shouldn't have been in there. [2:50:05, 2:50:15]: And you and we agreed to the I guess that you said item number two was gonna come out. There's a variance of something that needs to come out? Right, because you are gonna hear the variance next after you vote on the rezoning. [2:50:17, 2:50:19]: You'll have to call that one because it wasn't called with the rest of them. [2:50:20, 2:50:25]: Mayor. We've already we comprehend [2:50:25, 2:50:35]: The barren have to be. Okay. Okay. All right. Got it. [2:50:36, 2:50:38]: All right, so what so the motion on the floor though [2:50:40, 2:51:00]: It's dealing with the rezoning case, correct? Right. We you just listed all the new motions, Mr. Clerk did, and Ryan read the existing motions into the conditions. In conditions into the record. We have all of those. Ms. The Clerk has them. All right, so so that's been added to the motion. So the motion was once again it was made by you. [2:51:00, 2:51:06]: Mr. I wasn't a second by the same. Yes, so Ms. Gantt. Ms. Gantt, you second that move forward. Okay, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [2:51:08, 2:51:12]: Okay, you name is in Ms. Barber, you in favor? [2:51:16, 2:51:18]: [10279.0, 10279.3]: A [2:51:19, 2:51:20]: Eight. Eight. [2:51:24, 2:51:34]: The variance is next. No, we did that. From the rezoning. We're we're Oh the rezoning is a seven. With that's why we put the conditions in. Okay. [2:51:38, 2:51:55]: Once again, the motion was on rezoning for seven. Right. All right. Mrs. Azander made a motion. Ms. Gantt second that motion. So all in favor, please indicate. Okay, you good? All right. Now we'll go to the reverence case, right? [2:51:56, 2:52:16]: Okay, variance case, VR two zero two three-03. As a matter of fact, the last one, Miss Holiday, is unanimous decision on that. Okay, Council District 5, Council consideration and requested variance on certain properties on Brandon Road to allow for the construction of a single family detached residential development subdivision. The purpose of the variance request is to allow for reduction. [2:52:16, 2:52:36]: of the four, excuse me, of the front yard setbacks from the required 50 feet to 35 feet. The applicant is poly group, incorporated CO Battle Law PC. Property contains four parcels of landlots, two and three, district seven, and listed below with the one th 134.31 total acres in unincorporated Henry County. Once again, 941 [2:52:36, 2:52:56]: one Brandon Road parcel zero eight eight dash zero two zero five five zero zero zero contains five acres one zero zero Brandon Road parcel zero eight eight dash zero two zero five seven zero zero zero to include the southwestern track only which contains twenty nine point oh nine acres parcel zero eight eight dash zero two zero one. [2:52:55, 2:53:13]: Process zero seven zero das zero one zero zero five zero zero one contains twelve point eight nine acres. All right, so for we need a motion to approve or or disapprove or deny this particular variance case. Any motion please. [2:53:13, 2:53:29]: Ryan, l reach state the this was uh recommended for approval. Yeah, the um the staff recommended approval of this variance due to the the topograph topographical issues and water stream issues and other development constraints that are associated with the subject property. [2:53:30, 2:53:50]: Well, this is like a minimum level. It's not the standard. It's just for those exceptions. Yes, sir. It's only a fifteen feet. It was almost within um staff administrative uh right. So it's only five feet. Um so it's a fifteen feet variance. Um the standard is fifty feet, and they're asking for [2:53:50, 2:53:51]: reduction to thirty five feet. [2:53:51, 2:53:59]: On those like I said, that's this that's the exception, not the rule. Yes. Okay. All right. Soma. Sir, second the motion. [2:53:59, 2:54:10]: Yes, ma'am. I'd like to defer to legal and uh isn't this a public hearing on the variants? Yes, it is. I'm sorry, yes. Well I thought we we we had public hearing already. On all three of them first. [2:54:11, 2:54:12]: Oh, are you kidding me? [2:54:13, 2:54:14]: What? [2:54:14, 2:54:15]: But [2:54:16, 2:54:30]: W women now. Different type of uh uh legislative action. So it would have to be it can't be heard um from with the rezoning time plan. [2:54:33, 2:54:49]: Okay. All right. All right. Okay. On the variance case, this is a public hearing then on the variance case. Um in this aspect, so I'll open up that public hearing strictly on the variance for the Brandon Road properties. [2:54:50, 2:55:05]: Anybody for uh the variance uh case itself on my very left side? Anybody forward that wants to speak on this? Anybody in the middle forward wants to speak on this? Positively. Anybody on my far right that wants to speak on this? [2:55:06, 2:55:10]: All right, anybody against that wants to speak on this on my far left side? [2:55:12, 2:55:14]: Okay, anybody in the middle? Whatnot? [2:55:16, 2:55:17]: I'm sorry. [2:55:18, 2:55:19]: Given a chance to forget. [2:55:24, 2:55:25]: Would you like to do it afterwards? [2:55:26, 2:55:31]: Okay. Okay. [2:55:31, 2:55:45]: All right, so anyway, anybody in the middle that wants to speak on the variance case of uh negative comments. Anyone on the very right side? All right. All right, w go ahead, your n your name and address please. Deals with the variance at the Brandon Road property. [2:55:54, 2:56:00]: And most of the people for that project have already left and therefore aren't here. [2:56:05, 2:56:08]: Thank you. Um, next comment please. Name and address. [2:56:11, 2:56:15]: And in fields three, two, nine, chase very way, a fellow. [2:56:18, 2:56:20]: This is a public hearing, Mayor. [2:56:21, 2:56:25]: There was no public commentary for the comprehensive plan or [2:56:28, 2:56:36]: Well you had an opportun well, you actually had an opportunity to address that. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead with your comments, please. [2:56:37, 2:56:47]: Okay. You had when you were here earlier, when you spoke earlier for more than three minutes, you had an opportunity to speak on on those three issues, those issues that are that are read. [2:56:50, 2:57:05]: We were combining the public hearing for annexation, comprehensive plan, and rezoning into one commentary session. And in the last meeting that I attended in um November, we were discussing individually these cases, and we would have the public commentary. [2:57:06, 2:57:08]: I believe I confined them in the last meeting as well. [2:57:08, 2:57:10]: Yeah we've been December up. [2:57:11, 2:57:14]: Okay. That's why you didn't know that. Okay, any other comments that you have? [2:57:17, 2:57:18]: Okay. [2:57:23, 2:57:33]: All right. What well th th do you had the opportunity to speak, ma'am. Everybody had an opportunity to speak on all those issues. If you have nothing else, then w I'll end the public here if you know the comments and we'll move on. [2:57:35, 2:57:35]: Mm-hmm. [2:57:37, 2:57:40]: Can you please tell me what the overall setback is going? [2:57:41, 2:57:42]: [10663.8, 10673.1]: Oh I'll tell you what, the presentation will be made by the applicant when you're done with your s uh uh when you're done with your statement. You'll you're answer they will answer your question for you. [2:57:53, 2:58:03]: Thank you. All right. If there's no other comments, you know, for or against and we'll end this particular public hearing. In this aspect, Miss Battle, could you come back up for your presentation, please? [2:58:04, 2:58:06]: Um oh no okay. [2:58:07, 2:58:08]: Excuse me. [2:58:09, 2:58:10]: Your name and address, please. [2:58:13, 2:58:14]: Talking to the mic, please. [2:58:17, 2:58:18]: Okay. [2:58:20, 2:58:21]: How noise it on? [2:58:23, 2:58:25]: Is it green? Do you see a green light? [2:58:27, 2:58:28]: I guess [2:58:29, 2:58:32]: Uh Brian, could you go p uh turn this on please? [2:58:37, 2:58:38]: Thank you. [2:58:39, 2:58:49]: Um I'd just like to point out that um I'm really upset how you were you were rude to that lady. Um [2:58:49, 2:59:09]: I think it was uncalled for. All right. I think she had a very valid question um and concerned. And I think it's unfair that y what y'all are doing. Um and to as as far as the uh setback, um, those are townhouses. Come on now. [2:59:09, 2:59:22]: Those aren't estate houses. Um it's ridiculous that they think they can get those houses for the amount that they're they're asking. It's it's laughable. And I'm really just shocked that [2:59:22, 2:59:25]: Y'all are talking about this like this is normal and [2:59:28, 2:59:28]: Yeah. [2:59:30, 2:59:33]: It's it's hilarious. Okay. It really is. [2:59:34, 2:59:38]: Yeah, that's it. Thank you for the comments. All right, Miss Battle, can you come on back for your presentation? [2:59:47, 3:00:07]: Thank you, Meredith. Michelle Battle with Battle Law, 3562, Haversham at North Flake, Tucker, Georgia, 30084. The original hearing when you called all three items for everyone to be able to speak to all three items did not include the variance hearing. It was clear that that variance hearing [3:00:07, 3:00:27]: Hearing was going to be separate, and we come before you today with regards to why we were asking for the variance. Right now, the code requires a 50-foot setback. We are not reducing in any way the lot size. In fact, we've got larger lot sizes along Brandon. [3:00:27, 3:00:47]: Road. However, all impervious surface impacts the surrounding wetlands and floodplain. And so what we are trying to do is to reduce the amount of impervious surface that would be that could be impactful. [3:00:47, 3:01:07]: Would reduce some of the sizing on the detention ponds and keep the site much more compacted. And so with that, we are asking to reduce from 50 feet to 35 feet. As it stands right now, to get from the street to the house will be roughly about [3:01:07, 3:01:27]: 45 feet of length. If we add on that additional 15 feet, you have an extremely long driveway. And so that is why we're asking for the relief again to be able to reduce the amount of impervious surface, thereby reducing the amount of flow into the detention pocket. [3:01:27, 3:01:42]: response and um trying to just be more environmentally sensitive on on this particular site. All the driveways, there will be no driveways directly off of Brandon Road. All of the driveways will be off of the interior streets. [3:01:43, 3:01:48]: All right, what kind of c oh thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. What kind of questions do you have, Miss Battle Council? [3:01:49, 3:01:57]: Any c any questions at all? I do. Yeah, go ahead. Um, I don't necessarily support um these thirty five feet setbacks. [3:01:57, 3:01:58]: Yeah. [3:01:58, 3:02:03]: Just reminds me of all the town homes that were approved. So I don't [3:02:04, 3:02:24]: So the setback on a townhome typically you would see more like 20 feet. Um the 35 feet, um, quite honestly, in most neighborhoods, is fairly customary. A 50-foot setback is pretty far um in terms of um again the length of the driveway and [3:02:23, 3:02:43]: And one of the things again that we are really concerned about on this site because we're trying to keep down the amount of impervious surface, there's a balancing act between trying to protect the environment and having these longer um driveways from for an aesthetic purpose. We believe that the environmental concerns that have already been raised by the community are much more [3:02:43, 3:03:03]: Prevalent on this site, and therefore that is why we are seeking to reduce that setback so that also allows us to have that larger home as well on the footprint because the actual buildable envelope on the site would be bigger. So if we push that back, that means that the buildable [3:03:03, 3:03:07]: [10988.0, 10993.9]: Well, so does the yard with the smaller variants though. [3:03:14, 3:03:20]: No, because if if if we part of the reason why and I'm let me see if I can um show this on the um [3:03:22, 3:03:26]: plan so it makes a little bit more sense. [3:03:27, 3:03:47]: I apologize because this one actually says 30 and it was 35. But um the way that we are showing um the lots now, um you can see here that the the lot itself is 95 feet in width and 160 feet in length. What we're trying to do. [3:03:47, 3:04:07]: Do is make sure that we have a large um not only the large buildable envelope there, but again reducing the amount of driveway into the house. Um, and so it's 35 not 30 for the setback. The rear setback is 40 feet. So if you're taking the 160 feet and we added the 50 back in. [3:04:07, 3:04:27]: Then that means that you would have basically 90 feet of property that would not be usable in any way. And the middle portion of the site, and some of these sites are not exactly, some are a little bit longer, some may be a little shorter depending upon what the configuration of the site is. But that would basically cut out almost. [3:04:27, 3:04:33]: So um again we're just trying to make sure that we have um [3:04:35, 3:04:44]: as much space on the lot for the home and also um trying to reduce that amount of impervious surface going back towards the house. [3:04:46, 3:04:49]: Yeah, a question for Miss Battle, Council. [3:04:51, 3:04:55]: Everybody's good on this side. All right, then uh let's just see here. [3:04:57, 3:05:17]: Variance case VR two zero two three-03 to Council District 5. Council consideration to request a variance on certain property on Brandon Road to allow for the construction of single family detached residential development subdivision. Purpose of the variance request is to allow for reduction of front yard setbacks from required 50 feet to 35 feet. [3:05:17, 3:05:37]: And Ponglet Pouli Home Pole Group Incorporated C O Battle PC, the property contains four parcels, landlots two and three of District 7. As listed below with 134.31 total acres and unincorporated Henry County. 941 Brandon Row, parcel 088-0205-5000-000. [3:05:37, 3:05:45]: Contains five acres. 1100 Brandon Road, parcel 088-0205-7000. [3:05:45, 3:06:05]: To include the southwestern track only, which contains twenty nine point zero nine acres. Parcel zero eight eight-zero two zero five six zero zero zero contains eighty-seven point three three acres. Parcel zero seven dash zero one zero zero five zero zero one contains twelve point eight nine acres. Need a motion to accept or deny [3:06:05, 3:06:12]: this very case. So moved. Is there a second? Second. Now Mr Berry, seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [3:06:13, 3:06:31]: Okay. Now we go into the annexation case AX two two uh two zero two three dash zero six once again located council district five. And this is dealing with the annexation case. I'll read that comprehensive uh plan amendment as well as [3:06:31, 3:06:51]: The rezoning case. And we'll be talking about this and all at one and then we'll vote separately on each one of these cases. So anyway, council consideration to request the annexation of certain property on and near Patrick Henry Parkway to allow for construction of mixed-use development consistent uh consisting of multifamily residential and rental structures. [3:06:51, 3:07:11]: and retail commercial uses on a portion of property. The applicant is Waypoint Residential, CO Dennis J. Webb, Jr., Smith, Gramble, and Russell LLP. The property contains four parcels of landlock 46 of District 6 as listed below is 20.91 total acres in on according county. [3:07:11, 3:07:26]: And parcel number 052-01025027 contains 11.428 acres. Parcel number 052-01025028 contains 4.279 acres. [3:07:27, 3:07:47]: Parcel number zero five two-one zero two five zero two one to be annexed but not included within a proposed development. Contains one point six one one point one six four acres. Once again, a comprehensive plan amendment, okay, CP two zero two three-07. [3:07:47, 3:08:07]: Council District 5. Once again, council consideration to request a comprehensive plan amendment to assign the future land use designation of medium density mixed use to certain property on and near Patrick Henry Parkway to allow for the construction of a mixed-use development consisting of multifamily residential. [3:08:07, 3:08:16]: and retail commercial uses. And applicant of course is Waypoint Residential CO Dennis J. Webb, Jr. of Smith Gramble and Russell LLP. [3:08:18, 3:08:38]: And then we'll also go into the rezoning case of RZ2023-08. Once again, Council of District 5, Council consideration to the request of the rezoning is to assign the zoning districts PUD, Planned Unit Development, and PMU, Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District, to a certain problem. [3:08:38, 3:08:58]: Property on Practic Henry Parkway to allow for construction of mixed use development consisting of multifamily residential and retail commercial clear uses. The applicant is waypoint residential CO Dennis J. Webb, Jr. of Smith, Gramble and Russell LLP. The property contains three parcels of landlock 46 of District 6, which consists of twenty point two nine. [3:08:57, 3:09:02]: total acres in Ona Corbia Henry County. Mr. Anderson, please. [3:09:03, 3:09:23]: Okay. Yes, Mayor, I'll be discussing three zoning cases for this particular project: the annexation, the comp plan, and the rezoning. Got it. Uh okay. Currently, um there this this project consists of four parcels of land on Patrick Henry, consisting of 20 acres. The current use is vacant. However, there's a cemetery. [3:09:23, 3:09:38]: in the northwest portion of the property. The current zoning is C2 General Commercial. The current county land use designation is MX, which is similar to the PUD zoning that they'll be seeking in the city of Stockbridge. [3:09:40, 3:09:42]: Here's the aerial photo of the property. [3:09:43, 3:09:48]: It's in the middle of two city parcels, so it's contiguous on both the northern end and the southern end. [3:09:51, 3:10:11]: Properties to the north, C2, which is General Commercial, City of Stockbridge, PUD, Plan Unit Development, City of Stockbridge. The properties to the south are RR Rural Residential, City of Stockbridge. Properties to the east, OI, Office Institution of Henry County, and PD PD, Plan. [3:10:11, 3:10:17]: development in Heron County. Properties to the West RR Rural Residential City of Stockbridge. [3:10:21, 3:10:28]: Here's the zoning map, the joint zoning map b between um the city zon has the city zoning and um the Henry County zoning. [3:10:30, 3:10:38]: And you can see that the property is compatible with the surrounding community. There's MX and PUD in the vicinity. [3:10:41, 3:11:01]: The surrounding land use designations. To the north of the property, you got vacant land and you got the child care agency and you have Georgia Power. The existing land use, you got mixed use Henry County, mixed use Henry County, mixed use Henry County. Also keep in mind that the applicant is applying for PUD in the city. Property to the south is [3:11:01, 3:11:20]: Vacant and you got rural residential city of Stockbridge. Property to the east, you have a dermatology and law offices and the Eagles Landing Subdivision. And the land use, you have mixed use, medium density residential, Henry County. Property to the west is vacant and it's rural residential city of Stockbridge. [3:11:25, 3:11:27]: Here's the joint future land use map. [3:11:35, 3:11:48]: For the annex portion, the staff recommends approval. Um the property's contiguous on both the n north and southern end of of the city. So it meets the criteria for annexation. So staff recommends approval for that. [3:11:51, 3:11:53]: Yeah, C P twenty three though. [3:12:01, 3:12:05]: So now I proceed to the um the comp plan portion. [3:12:07, 3:12:12]: I discussed it briefly during the annexation. Uh the subject proper is [3:12:13, 3:12:31]: It's currently land use designation of MX, which the similar zoning in the city would be PUD. So as a result uh of this staff recommends approval because of the um the compatibility with the existing land uses and the surrounding land uses. [3:12:35, 3:12:37]: Now I move to the rezoning portion. [3:12:53, 3:12:55]: Here's the aerial photo with the site plan. [3:12:59, 3:13:02]: Here's the site plan with the parcels uh label. [3:13:08, 3:13:10]: Here's another area photo with the site plan. [3:13:12, 3:13:13]: Insert it. [3:13:15, 3:13:28]: As I previously mentioned that um this pro zoning proposal is compatible with the surrounding neighborhood. The current county zoning is MX, which is the same as the uh zoning that the applicant is seeking in the city. The city zoning is PUD. [3:13:34, 3:13:38]: So as a result of this, um staff recommends approval with conditions. [3:13:45, 3:13:48]: So I like to read the c conditions into the um [3:13:50, 3:14:10]: Into the record. Um the first condition is the density rate shall be kept at sixteen point four dwelling units per acre or a maximum of three hundred and twenty-four residential units for the entire mixed-use development. The project will be in conformance with the City of Stockbridge Unified Development Code and all other city code sections regard regarding [3:14:10, 3:14:30]: Regarding the site development standards and other requirements that are found. The proposed mixed use development shall be constructed according to a design which is similar to the one that is shown on the applicant submitted site plan titled Waypoint Residential, which was prepared by Kimley Horn and Associates on September twenty-eighth, twenty twenty-three. A twenty-five-foot buffer shall be installed, installed on the north. [3:14:30, 3:14:37]: South and eastern sides of the property. A deceleration lane, as shown on the site plan, shall be provided. [3:14:37, 3:14:42]: The development the developer shall take appropriate steps to preserve and protect the cemetery. [3:14:42, 3:14:47]: The develop the developers shall establish a maintenance of all the common areas in the development. [3:14:47, 3:14:50]: A fence must be installed adjacent to the doll parking. [3:14:50, 3:14:52]: And on the Georgia Power Easement. [3:14:52, 3:14:53]: On the south side of the property. [3:14:54, 3:15:14]: All non-commercial parking facilities shall be screened from the view of the Patrick Henry Parkway by the use of maintenance, by the use and maintenance of tall dense landscaping. The proposed development shall not block any existing or future easement access to parcels zero five two zero one zero two five oh two one, which is a current easement. [3:15:14, 3:15:29]: for the billboard sign. And no structure shall be built within the file zone of any interstate billboard which is located or may be located on parcel 052-01-025021. That's staff report. [3:15:33, 3:15:36]: Applicant. All right. Council, any questions? [3:15:37, 3:15:38]: For Mr. Ryan Anderson. [3:15:39, 3:15:59]: This project falls within District Five as well. Uh certainly, Ryan, you've done your due diligence in looking at the project and have uh assessed the project and what it is. This sorta offers us uh what the traditional mixed use now uh a component combined with [3:15:59, 3:16:19]: Well uh office space in addition to retail. In into in addition to the retail. And this kind of what it does is piggyback off a lot of the development development agreement standards that we had at Jodico, is that correct? Yes, sir. And also this is uh we have a um Patrick Curry Master Plan study going on. [3:16:19, 3:16:23]: now and this will be folded into that that master plan at a later date. [3:16:24, 3:16:44]: Okay, some of the things you know that we have discussed ourselves, such as at the uh signalized uh intersections, having the black mass post arm signals uh at those intersections, as well as having um uh stamp paper crosswalks to kind of highlight [3:16:44, 3:16:59]: those areas as such similar to what we did uh over at the Jodico project as well. Yes. Mm-hmm. Okay. Certainly I would like to see those things happen as well. As far I do understand, Mr. City Manager, will you come to the podium as well? [3:17:09, 3:17:29]: We certainly do have always have that contention, even though the mayor mentioned there is not consideration of denial in traffic or schools are not um cannot be a a groove for denial. In this project, there are some transportation improvements corrective. You've been discussing uh in [3:17:28, 3:17:36]: Coordination with Henry County, uh, which would include a widening of that section of Patrick Henry Parkway. [3:17:37, 3:17:42]: Yes, sir. The uh the goal is to have Henry Henry uh [3:17:43, 3:18:03]: Patrick Henry Parkway four-leaned. So the two leans that you see now that goes between Jodika Road and Eagles Landing, that is the northbound side of what would be the four-lean portion of this of that roadway. So part of that discussion is um do we address that as part of the new splots? [3:18:03, 3:18:07]: as well as um condition with the developers who develop along the corridor. [3:18:08, 3:18:24]: Right,'cause so as they're developing this project, they develop pretty much they would be able to develop this the other half. Oh the other half of'cause Patrick Henry is built is that it has one side basically that has the median on the other side, correct? [3:18:24, 3:18:32]: Correct. So in this case you'd probably wanna make if if it's the wish of the council to approve it that there's some condition that says that they should leave [3:18:32, 3:18:34]: Or um [3:18:34, 3:18:37]: Pay some portion of the road based on the length of their roadway. [3:18:37, 3:18:43]: They would dedicate towards the road towards the uh widening of Patrick Henry when that time comes. [3:18:43, 3:19:03]: The widening of Patrick in here at that time cove. So certainly I I thank you and I I I appreciate that. And as I mentioned earlier, um we certainly did look at and I know again schools can't are not a reason to deny uh based on what we have been taught and the law, but certainly uh [3:19:03, 3:19:23]: Again, there is a new elementary school that's under construction on Willow Lane and McDonough. Certainly Dutchtown High School has been expanded. Dutchtown Middle will be next along NettleRone. Union Grove Middle will be accordingly. And then 5,000 additional student capacity. [3:19:23, 3:19:43]: Capacity spaces will be made available throughout the Kenry, throughout Henry County. And contrary to what is popularly believed, the school system is not at capacity, it's in certain areas, such as that Dutch town cluster, which is being expanded, where the capacity is actually limited, but other areas there. [3:19:43, 3:20:00]: there are our ability to to expand. And certainly I said before, our forty-five million dollar STEM school will take some of the weight off of some of the local high schools like Eagles Landing, Dutchtown, and several others all over the count all over the county as well. So thank you. [3:20:02, 3:20:09]: Any other questions, Council for Mr. Anderson? I didn't know. Oh oh stand by please. Ms. Barber, go ahead. [3:20:10, 3:20:14]: I'll yield to Ms. Berry. Mr. Berry, go ahead, please. I just have a question as as far as [3:20:16, 3:20:31]: Um there was a cemetery on this property, is that correct? Yes. A small cemetery on the northwest portion. It's on the northwest corner. Yes, sir. And approximately how large is the cemetery? Um [3:20:34, 3:20:41]: That's a small cemetery. I'm trying to see if I have a um if it's on the site plan. I mean on the um [3:20:52, 3:20:53]: Sure. [3:20:59, 3:21:00]: Mm-hmm. [3:21:11, 3:21:16]: I can't I don't have a picture of the cemetery, but it's a it's a relatively small cemetery. It's it's [3:21:18, 3:21:38]: You have a general idea exactly where it's located? Um and I'm assuming it doesn't affect the project overall. No, it it won't affect the project at all. That was that was my last question. How does it affect and what was the No, they w they would have to be um a certain distance as as mandated by law from that uh cemetery. Okay it's close to where the billboard is and uh [3:21:38, 3:21:58]: The I think is one of the r requirements is that there's can be nothing built underneath the billboard structure. No, you can't have anything underneath the billboard as far as uh the height plus thirty-three percent, the height of the billboard plus an additional thirty-three percent. So if the billboard's a hundred feet, then um the drop zone would be a hundred and thirty-three feet. [3:21:57, 3:22:14]: The fall zone would be a hundred and thirty three feet. Similar is it similar to the last project to where there will be uh some level of access to that cemetery? Yes. Okay. Yes, sir. We're requesting that as uh um as one of our zoning conditions and also uh [3:22:14, 3:22:25]: the um they can block the access to this easement for Georgia power as well. So I was trying to find you a picture of the cemetery. [3:22:31, 3:22:33]: So there's nothing else than that. [3:22:33, 3:22:45]: Yeah. It's like a one person cemetery. Uh I don't have a picture of it, but it's it's it's re it's a really small cemetery. Yes, it's real small. It's like one or two people. [3:22:45, 3:22:46]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:22:47, 3:22:49]: You have a do you have a question? [3:22:57, 3:23:01]: Wanted to ask, was a community forum held for this? [3:23:01, 3:23:02]: Community form, um [3:23:03, 3:23:16]: Sorry. Yes, the applicant um they tried to have community meetings, um, but I'm not sure if they had a community forum. So but um Councilman Alexander, do you know? [3:23:16, 3:23:17]: At the um [3:23:18, 3:23:19]: Yeah. [3:23:20, 3:23:21]: Yeah, yeah [3:23:22, 3:23:40]: He the applicant tried to have a uh offered to have a meeting after the after the planning commission. He met with the residents. What do we need to do with I'm sorry, is the applicant here? Y yes, the applicant is here. They tried to meet with the residents before. Ms. Ms. Barber, go ahead with your question. [3:23:46, 3:23:56]: So yeah, uh as uh Mr. Anderson was saying, uh we were unaware of any opposition actually until we showed up. I'm sorry, uh Din Webb 1105 West Beastie Street, Atlanta, Georgia, three oh three oh nine. [3:23:56, 3:24:02]: Um we were unaware of any opposition actually until we appeared at the planning commission. There were two people [3:24:02, 3:24:17]: Uh this lady is one and there was another person there. And at that meeting I said, I am happy to meet with them. I will meet them in the back of the room after this meeting, take their names and address and set something up. I went to the back of the room and they'd already left. So we did have an offer, but we did send out letters. [3:24:17, 3:24:24]: Uh uh we've had a sign in front of the property for a long time and um so we you know, we've offered, we haven't had one. [3:24:25, 3:24:27]: Okay, M Ms. Barber, you have some questions? [3:24:28, 3:24:30]: That's good. You okay, Mr. Alzheimer's, do you have any other questions? [3:24:31, 3:24:46]: No, uh what I what I would like to know is in terms of uh where you were going, as you said you were unaware of there was opposition into the past. Talk about your um involvement in similar projects,'cause you've done many of these projects, correct? [3:24:47, 3:25:00]: Yes, sir. Uh i uh uh I I've done a project recently in Stockbridge where we did have community meetings. Uh I've done projects in other jurisdictions. You know, whether we have a community or community meeting or not has a lot to do with what uh [3:25:01, 3:25:13]: the neighborhoods that access where we are. I'm not aware of any actual r single family residential neighborhood that has a driveway onto Patrick Henry Parkway between Eagles Landing Parkway and Jodico Road. So we we're on a very commercial corridor. [3:25:13, 3:25:18]: It di it wasn't obvious to us to go out and try and find neighborhoods that would be interested in this project and [3:25:18, 3:25:35]: I'm gonna say this. Uh I'm not I I think if we hadn't been on the agenda with Brandon Rowe, we might not have had any uh interest in this, to tell you the truth. But uh you know uh I offered, uh that's a fact, we've got a record, Ryan heard it, it's it's in type, and uh the folks who offered it to didn't want to meet apparently. [3:25:36, 3:25:49]: Oh okay sir, thank you. Any other questions at all for the council? I got a question for him when he get when she gets I do. Go ahead. Um for clarity and this is for Mr Aaron. I mean Mr Anderson. Right. Can you come to the podium please? [3:25:50, 3:25:51]: Because um [3:25:52, 3:25:58]: I know that in our code it does speak to um homeowners whose property a butt. [3:25:58, 3:26:03]: Um the development. No three hundred feet. What about those properties that don't abut? [3:26:04, 3:26:05]: the proposed development. [3:26:06, 3:26:07]: But are nearby. [3:26:09, 3:26:12]: What do we need to do to make sure that there is adequate [3:26:13, 3:26:18]: Well in the future. [3:26:19, 3:26:39]: Uh yes, we will have to do something about that. But however, uh the 300 feet is above the state law minimum. So technically um you you only have to send it to the prop to to the adjacent property owner. However, we do extend out to 300 feet. And starting in March, we will have a a CZIM, a community zoning. [3:26:39, 3:26:56]: information meeting which will be which would be spearheaded by the developers. They will be mandated to go to this CZIM and invite the um the residents of the community. So we are doing something, we do have something planned to address that and it will be coming before council soon for approval. Thank you. I appreciate that. Okay. All right. [3:26:57, 3:27:11]: Mr. Alexander, away please. Yeah. Again, um talk about similar developments that you have done um is uh uh uh in Metro Atlanta and talk about those projects and their assimilator or their differences. [3:27:12, 3:27:32]: So I I I've been doing this a long time. Uh I do it in a lot of different jurisdictions. Uh, you know, for similar projects, I I did the rezoning for North Cab Mall last year uh for Eden's, which was uh a significant multifamily or mixed-use development on 72 acres. Uh in terms of other mixed-use projects, I've done Town Brooking. [3:27:32, 3:27:33]: Kavan [3:27:33, 3:27:53]: Which is a 52-acre uh development in North Atlanta in the city of Brookhaven. I did Decatur Crossing into Cab County, which was about a 40-acre mixed-use development that Fuque development was behind, uh, with you know, again, you're talking twelve hundred residential units and hundreds of thousands of square feet of uh retail and commercial. [3:27:53, 3:28:00]: space and I've done everything in between. I'm I do I'm in in a jurisdiction like this two or three nights every other week. Um so [3:28:01, 3:28:06]: I've got my fair share of experience with mixed use development, so does Waypoint Residential. Uh you know [3:28:07, 3:28:25]: I try and think that I I you know, I I represent a uh a high class of developer. You know, I uh I think um you know Michelle Battle had Pulty homes. I think that was viewed as a a step up for Stockbridge to move up into uh, you know, a a level like that. And I think most of my clients represent that too. I certainly think Waypoint is in that category. [3:28:25, 3:28:27]: So I [3:28:28, 3:28:35]: I could go on for an hour about the number of the types of developments I've been involved in. Here I was involved in that Vista residential development on on Flippin' Road. [3:28:35, 3:28:55]: Absolutely. And uh let's talk about uh the general from what I understood there was some economic impact data that you had discussed earlier uh that was presented that the project represented uh approximately three hundred fifty million potential three hundred fifty million dollars uh investment internal [3:28:55, 3:29:00]: in terms of the economic impact or uh to the community? [3:29:00, 3:29:02]: I don't have that data. [3:29:02, 3:29:09]: I don't think that came from me. Uh certainly there will be a positive economic impact uh from this development. This is twenty acres of [3:29:09, 3:29:18]: Basically undeveloped land that's generated. Yeah, I think that came from Mr. Murphy. Tax revenue. Pardon me. I think that came from Mr. Murphy. Mr. Murphy. [3:29:22, 3:29:25]: So what's the city manager? He's a no controller. [3:29:26, 3:29:27]: Ready representative. [3:29:31, 3:29:32]: Yeah. [3:29:36, 3:29:56]: In terms of this particular development that we've been talking about uh in terms of for the past several months, in terms of uh with Mr. Murphy and his team, this was part of the concept, correct? Um this this parcel is just adjacent to it, uh north of the plant area that we've been working in for the past. [3:29:56, 3:30:03]: Patrick Henry Master Plan. So this is adjacent to it to the north. Right. Okay. Yep. Okay. Go ahead, continue, I'm sorry. [3:30:05, 3:30:25]: In terms of uh uh as we go down the line in terms of we were talking about some potential interested parties and that kind of thing. So what we recognize is that project, that mixed use development that would have um vertical mixed use with commercial residential above, uh standalone commercial. [3:30:24, 3:30:44]: office, hotel, um, single family attached, uh, multifamily, and um or I think if I'm not mistaken, auto dealer that's already on board um for the project. But this will be just adjacent to that. That's what's planned in that area for master plan for that area. [3:30:44, 3:30:45]: Yeah. [3:30:47, 3:30:50]: All right, if anything else you need to answer, anything else right now before we [3:30:50, 3:30:52]: Move on to open uh to a oh uh [3:30:54, 3:30:55]: Two public hearing piece. [3:30:58, 3:30:59]: Let me just quickly [3:31:01, 3:31:20]: Yeah, let me just touch on a couple things. Uh you know, first of all, as the annexation petitioned, in this case, Henry County was notified of our request to annex into into the city of Stockbridge. They had an opportunity to file a formal objection with the DCA and they didn't do it. So they're aware we're here, they know what we want, and it's and they didn't file an objection. Um [3:31:25, 3:31:31]: I can talk about some of the details of the development itself, but kind of piggybacking on some of the questions that were just raised. [3:31:32, 3:31:42]: Uh first of all, we have provided for the expansion of uh Henry County Parkway. You'll notice d uh on the site plants a little bit, let me see if I can shrink this slightly. [3:31:45, 3:31:49]: You'll notice uh the property line here. [3:31:49, 3:32:05]: Patrick Henry Parkway here, there's a gap of about a a hundred feet or so between the edge of the right-of-way and you know sort of where we're we're putting the buildings. And the intent is that is the southern side of the expansion of Patrick Henry Parkway. So we have uh accommodated that. [3:32:05, 3:32:18]: Uh someone asked about the cemetery. Uh the state law requires a 50-foot buffer around all sides. It is a small cemetery. It's a small family cemetery, there's only a couple plots, but we are absolutely 100% abiding by the state requirements of providing a 50-foot buffer on all all sides. [3:32:22, 3:32:29]: I've heard a lot of talk about multi-use path. We are providing a 10-foot multi-use path along uh that follows the entire fundage of Henry County Parkway. [3:32:29, 3:32:38]: And you're willing to put that in there? Yes, sir. It's actually on our site plan, but of course. Yeah, if you want to make a specific reference to that, uh I'm fine with that. Um [3:32:42, 3:32:48]: So how many signalized in the total set signalized in in the signalized entrances? [3:32:48, 3:32:58]: Um there's no signalized entrance at at at present. We are proposing two curb cuts. The primary entrance is here. You see a uh this curb cut off of Patrick Henry comes into a roundabout. [3:32:59, 3:33:07]: And it is this building six where the the the commercial component of this development is is is centered. And so um let me see if I can blow that up a little bit. [3:33:10, 3:33:18]: So, you know, the folks who want to go to the coffee shop or the the clothing store, whatever w commercial winds up in this building, will come in here, park. [3:33:19, 3:33:19]: Uh oh. [3:33:20, 3:33:29]: on the the uh north side or east side rather of a gate that will be there to separate the commercial uh traffic from the actual residence in the development. [3:33:31, 3:33:42]: Uh in terms of traffic, let me just touch briefly on that. We did submit a traffic study, okay? And it's it was current, uh it's something we prepared as part of this application, which you've only been pursuing for a couple months. [3:33:42, 3:34:02]: And and I think the important point to mention is this. Ryan mentioned several times, you know, what we're not what we're proposing to do really any different one than what Henry County would allow us to do, right? It's a mixed-use uh designation on the comp plan, which jibes with the PUD zoning district that we are seeking, and also jives with the comp plan designation we're we're seeking. But Henry County has zoned this property for C2, which is the highest. [3:34:02, 3:34:18]: you know, individual c uh commercial zoning district, which is actually designed for shopping malls and things like that, sports arenas. And our traffic study indicates that what we're proposing would actually generate 60% less traffic than what could be built on this site under the existing Henry County zoning. So the traffic impact is significantly less. [3:34:19, 3:34:25]: than what we're proposing. And of course, Henry County Parkway is an arterial road which is designed to handle traffic in any event. [3:34:25, 3:34:26]: Um [3:34:27, 3:34:32]: Heard a little bit about design criteria. We've pr put together a board, a concept board that shows [3:34:32, 3:34:33]: Yeah. [3:34:33, 3:34:35]: what this development is proposed to look like [3:34:35, 3:34:48]: Unlike I think the development that we you talked about before, we're in an overlay. So we're actually in the parkway overlay, which does have design criteria uh uh adop adopted and advanced by the city, so we'll be following those uh strictly. Um [3:34:49, 3:35:03]: In the res in the in this commercial in in this commercial component as you have you have residential on top and then you have commercial on the on the bottom levels that correct. So on on building six, yes, sir. So we've got let me back up a little bit. [3:35:06, 3:35:26]: So there are seven buildings total. We are proposing commercial in this primary building, which is called Building Six. And it will be ground, we'll have 14,000 square feet in that building of non-residential space that will include 5,000 square feet of true commercial and also the amenity, like a fitness area and leasing. And it will be shopfront behind shopfront glass. [3:35:26, 3:35:40]: So it's designed to look like your typical mixed-use development. We don't believe, and I I think the staff agrees with us that uh storefront commercial uh is not appropriate in every building, but it does make sense in building six, and that's what we're proposing here. Um [3:35:44, 3:35:56]: If I can ask a really quick question, how many entrance and exit points? Is it two? Two. Okay. So on the real project is a c is a one more question. [3:35:57, 3:36:00]: Please the cemetery. Yes, ma'am. [3:36:00, 3:36:04]: Are you all required to put a fence or something around it? [3:36:05, 3:36:17]: Yes, ma'am. And we're provided w we are required to fence it, we're pro provide required to buffer it, and we are required to provide easement access to the families uh that want to visit it. And so all of those things will be provided here. [3:36:21, 3:36:29]: Sorry, I'm skipping around'cause I d we just sorta started with questions and I didn't run through anything, but let me try and see if there's anything else I want to mention. [3:36:30, 3:36:50]: You know, in terms of density, we're proposing sixteen point four units per acre. Again, we're in the parkway overlay, which will allow a lot more than that if we wanted to. We're not trying to max out this site. We're trying to do something that makes sense for what's in the area. And something that will complement uh you know the the development that Mr. Gardner referred to next door, which is really uh more than a development, it's a mixed-use area. And this is a part and parcel to that. This will [3:36:50, 3:36:57]: uh feed into it, fit into it, and certainly complement it. And I think it could be a catalyst to get thing that thing moving uh as well. [3:36:59, 3:37:19]: There are a variety of amenities on this site: a pool, courtyard, grill areas, dog walk, and fitness. And I think one of the more interesting amenities is this. You'll see on the north and south sides of this development, we have uh detention ponds. We plan to activate one. So it's actually gonna be an amenity for this development. It will be, you know, look great, have p uh trails around it, and something that the residents can actually use and enjoy. [3:37:19, 3:37:25]: Doing a fountain to Korea. We we can. Yes. [3:37:25, 3:37:26]: Um [3:37:27, 3:37:35]: Something unique about this development too is we actually have garage spaces for uh 42 of the residents. We're providing 42 garage spaces on this site. [3:37:50, 3:38:09]: The only other thing I'm gonna uh m talk about is this. So staff has proposed nine conditions. We're agreeable to all, but we want to would ask you that you consider one uh uh uh change, and that is there was a reference to allowing uh existing and future easements to the billboard site. We we've been talking to the billboard guy. So if you go back to this [3:38:10, 3:38:10]: The beginning here. [3:38:12, 3:38:14]: What we're we're asking for [3:38:14, 3:38:17]: Ферст істо анексі твоє пона екс. [3:38:18, 3:38:25]: From Henry County into the city of Stockbridge. That consists of four tracks. I'm gonna highlight this rectangular track here on the west side. [3:38:25, 3:38:45]: That's the billboard site. We're not trying to rezone that property. It's not part of a rezoning application. Uh it it is uh should be and I believe will be uh zoned the same way in the city of Stockbridge that it is zoned in in Henry County, which is C2. But we've been talking to uh that billboard owner about how he's gonna access it. There are some easements there now. [3:38:45, 3:39:05]: But he's open to moving them. I think it's not the easements there now are not very functional for him. So I would ask that the reference to existing easements be struck. You can keep the reference to future easement, but again, we've been talking to him. We know we need to provide access, we're gonna provide access, and I think collectively we decided that maybe uh there there's a better way to get there than the way he's allowed to do that. [3:39:05, 3:39:17]: D do you want the easements to come out of the conditions right now is the way stated? Well w all I'm really asking for is the word existing in that easement condition come out. We'll commit to providing easements, but like I said [3:39:18, 3:39:25]: I don't think the easements as they exist now work well for the billboard developer. And we've been talking to him already about trying to move those around. So [3:39:26, 3:39:34]: We will provide easement access. It may be exactly where it is today, but we'd like the flexibility to if if he wants to move it somewhere else to do that. And as and as long as that condition says. [3:39:35, 3:39:42]: You know, we'll maintain the existing easements, we can't do that. So if I would ask that the word existing be struck from that condition, the rest of it can stay. [3:39:45, 3:39:47]: Uh i it wasn't numbered [3:39:55, 3:39:56]: No, it's it's yours. [3:40:14, 3:40:17]: So we we're in agreement with that. We could just say um future. [3:40:18, 3:40:20]: Instead of our existing. [3:40:31, 3:40:43]: The the the the condition read the proposed development shall not block any existing or future easement access to parcel to parcel zero five two dash zero one oh two five oh two one. [3:40:43, 3:40:46]: So we'll just take out um existing. [3:40:48, 3:41:04]: And leave future in there. Do you need to place it with another word or just take it all together? Uh and and why you think about counsel, you have is that is that you all good with that? Mr. Alexander? You good? As long as the staff is good with the I need to hear from the city attorney or the city manager. [3:41:04, 3:41:06]: In reference to that. [3:41:07, 3:41:08]: All right, Mrs. Gardner, are you available? [3:41:18, 3:41:38]: This is in reference to a statement involving the uh staff recommendation. Um the it deals with the the easement and uh taking the word out, resisting out, uh but allowing them the flexibility to uh to have a pathway to the billboard and they'll communicate continue communicating with that billboard owner. But I guess wanted to get your [3:41:38, 3:41:57]: Your opinion on that and I guess your clarification or support this aspect. What I propose to take out. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Let's let's finish this one first, please. I propose taking out the reference to existing, but reading it now, I I this might be a a better solution. The proposed development shall provide easement access to parcel. [3:41:57, 3:42:13]: Zero five two, so on and so forth. Maybe that's the simple way because yeah. We we're gonna provide easement access. He's got it now. I think it may move. It might move so that just give you flexibility to put it exactly move it wherever it needs to be, as long as it exists. Right. Okay. So the word is coming out or not coming out now? [3:42:14, 3:42:15]: What I would propose. [3:42:16, 3:42:16]: Sorry, Greg. [3:42:18, 3:42:29]: What I would propose is that condition read, the proposed development shall provide easement access to parcel number zero five two zero one zero two five zero two one, period. [3:42:30, 3:42:31]: Okay. [3:42:32, 3:42:40]: I I don't mind doing it by just removing the word easement, but I think that actually is a better solution in uh a little bit more. Ms. Barber, does that satisfy your requirement? [3:42:42, 3:42:48]: Are you okay with it, Mr. Gardner? That's what we want to do. Oh yes sir. Yes sir,'cause they'll have to illustrate it on their development plans when they come in for approval. [3:42:49, 3:42:50]: [13371.6, 13378.5]: I miss uh Miss Holliday you you got that written down or An Anison Anison, do you understand all that? [3:43:02, 3:43:02]: Okay. [3:43:06, 3:43:13]: And the actual wording. You understand the wording? You got the got it? Yes, sir. All right, Miss Miss uh Gantt, do you have a question? [3:43:14, 3:43:15]: Well the [3:43:17, 3:43:26]: Protection of the cemetery and access to the cemetery was kinda broad and I kinda wanted it spelled out a little bit more on what exactly the plans were going to be. [3:43:27, 3:43:47]: So the plan is to provide a a fifty foot buffer around it so there's no development or anything going on within fifty feet of the boundary of the cemetery. Uh we we will fence it and provide access to the family and we can reference all that into condition, but that is actually state law. So uh when we go into permitting, that's you know something that the staff would be required to look at and make sure we provide. [3:43:47, 3:43:54]: So we can put it in a condition, but it's it's there by law anyway. So we're we're fine either way. Okay. Okay. [3:43:55, 3:43:57]: Yeah, questions council. [3:43:58, 3:44:18]: Okay, if not, uh open this up for a public uh hearing and obviously when we have this pub this particular hunt public hearing, it'll be dealing with annexation, comprehensive plan amendment, as well as the rezoning for this particular case. So public hearing is open. Anybody [3:44:18, 3:44:38]: Have any comments for this public hearing? Comments for on the very my very left side, comments four. Anybody for comments four in the very middle? Line up over here on my far left. Any comments for this annexation on my far right? If you have positive comments from my far right, please glance. [3:44:38, 3:44:40]: Yeah. [3:44:40, 3:44:50]: Okay, seeing no more. So we'll start this now. Come forward, give me a name and address and your po uh your positive comment in reference to this case, please. Miss uh holiday, please start the clock. [3:44:52, 3:44:55]: Mayor Four excuse me, Mayor Ford Council members. [3:44:56, 3:45:04]: My name is Charles Marshall, my wife Yvonne, and I live at 140 Somerset Hills, McDonough, Georgia, which is in the Eagles Landing area. [3:45:05, 3:45:07]: Within the city limits of Stockbridge. Okay. [3:45:07, 3:45:13]: I'm here tonight not only as a resident of Stockbridge, but as the president of the Henry County Coalition Committee. [3:45:14, 3:45:18]: Representing seventy eight members who mostly live in the Eagles Landing area. [3:45:18, 3:45:19]: of Stockbridge. [3:45:21, 3:45:23]: We have been advocates. [3:45:23, 3:45:26]: For improving the quality of life within our community. [3:45:27, 3:45:31]: Від кваліті хомс, апскіл ресторанц, шопінг аріас. [3:45:32, 3:45:34]: The widening and paving of our streets. [3:45:35, 3:45:39]: Ком'юніні центр з фамилий парк<unk> оловвич ви абиничьосі. [3:45:39, 3:45:40]: Thanks to your commitment. [3:45:41, 3:45:42]: And vision. [3:45:43, 3:45:45]: For the continuing development of our city. [3:45:47, 3:45:49]: These are exciting times. [3:45:50, 3:45:54]: We have shown the rest of Henry County that we the city of Stockbridge. [3:45:55, 3:45:58]: Кинтайк Лід і Макенар Ситин охо. [3:45:58, 3:45:59]: for a better future. [3:46:00, 3:46:03]: And I thank this council for your vision. [3:46:03, 3:46:04]: What? [3:46:04, 3:46:05]: This city can be. [3:46:07, 3:46:12]: These plans for the further development of the Patrick Henry Parkway are just another example. [3:46:13, 3:46:16]: Of how we can continue to make our city the kind of place. [3:46:16, 3:46:18]: We can all be proud of. [3:46:19, 3:46:23]: Those kinds or these kinds of developments have long been needed. [3:46:24, 3:46:25]: And waited for. [3:46:26, 3:46:27]: And now we have a chance. [3:46:28, 3:46:29]: To make them happen. [3:46:30, 3:46:33]: I and many others in the community support the initiative. [3:46:34, 3:46:39]: And look forward to your motion to approve and to move forward. Thank you. [3:46:40, 3:46:44]: Okay, thank you, sir. Come come forward name and address, please. [3:46:52, 3:46:55]: Good evening. I'm Good evening, go ahead. [3:46:55, 3:47:08]: I'm Joseph Chrissy. I live on Twenty Pleasant Valley Road, McDonough. I which is actually just across the street from where this d proposed development is happening. And [3:47:10, 3:47:14]: I wanted to inquire or uh [3:47:15, 3:47:25]: about the footpaths uh or the multi-use paths, like sidewalks and the like. Um [3:47:26, 3:47:31]: And he I had had mentioned that that was in the planned development. [3:47:31, 3:47:51]: And uh there was also a comment on the residents within the vicinity of the development. Uh and I think that the development would benefit the commun the surrounding community. Uh [3:47:52, 3:48:12]: with uh like business the businesses and uh especially the footpaths, I personally would be for like the foot the footpaths. Sorry I'm saying that so much. Uh because going up m being up and down that road all the time, I notice that [3:48:12, 3:48:32]: There are a lot of people riding bikes or are on foot trying to get back and forth from like the Walmart and uh the businesses that are along Hudson Bridge. Uh currently, there are no other footpaths or sidewalks to get there, and so if you actually [3:48:32, 3:48:52]: drive along Patrick Patrick Himmy Parkway, you could see where the shoulder is worn from so much foot traffic. And so I've walked out I've walked along it myself a time or two, and there are a lot of uh like rocks and roots. [3:48:52, 3:48:52]: And [3:48:53, 3:48:54]: Uh [3:48:54, 3:49:08]: Things that can trip people up along that path and it makes riding like bikes and scooters very difficult. So uh I just wanted to com comment that. [3:49:10, 3:49:25]: Appreciate it. Thank you for your comments. Thank you very much. All right. There are no more comments uh for. We'll take comments that are against this particular proposal from the very left. Line up from the very left. All right. Comments from the very left, please. Any comments, negative comments in the very middle? [3:49:26, 3:49:33]: The line up on the left hand side, any comments from my very right that wanna indicate any negative comments in reference to this development. Okay. [3:49:34, 3:49:35]: All right, now [3:49:35, 3:49:38]: So okay, now please come forward, give me your name and address, please. [3:49:41, 3:49:45]: Ann Fields, three two nine Chase, Marion Way, McDonough. [3:49:45, 3:49:46]: Can [3:49:48, 3:49:50]: Can I ask for clarification? [3:49:50, 3:49:55]: We're talking about a setback that would include the uh southbound lanes of [3:49:55, 3:49:59]: Patrick Henry Parkway, correct. So from the existing curb [3:50:00, 3:50:02]: On Patrick Henry right now. [3:50:02, 3:50:03]: We're gonna set back. [3:50:04, 3:50:12]: The roadway, and then they're asking for an additional thirty feet from that point. Is that correct? [3:50:19, 3:50:22]: We'll get you an answer here shortly. Well, what else what other kind of concerns do you have? Go ahead. [3:50:24, 3:50:41]: We'll get you an answer before you leave tonight. We'll get w what what what other things we have on your mind? Well that is my biggest concern of Patrick Henry Parkway widening. Okay. Um the m is there anything preventing bicycles from using these multi use paths? Because um Henry County had wanted [3:50:42, 3:51:01]: Bike lanes, specific bike lanes. Where I come from, you don't ride bikes on sidewalks. So is there a state law or a county law that prohibits the use of a bicycle, including an electric bicycle of class one or two nature on the multi-use pathways? [3:51:02, 3:51:07]: Okay, we'll get you an answer shortly. Okay, because it would be counterproductive to not [3:51:07, 3:51:18]: If it's if you can't ride your bike on it, then it's not a true multi use and then we need bike lanes still. The overlay that Henry County has been working with is what [3:51:19, 3:51:39]: Is to give us the lighting structure, the landscaping structure that we're looking for. If we're going to develop Patrick Henry Parkway, my biggest concerns are for the aesthetic look of Patrick Henry Parkway as a whole, and also to advise you all that the one 45 mile [3:51:39, 3:51:44]: mile an hour speed limit sign that existed on that road is gone today. [3:51:45, 3:52:02]: So the only speed limit sign from when you pass uh Waffle House all the way down to the thirty-five mile an hour zone at the end as it rounds the corner, there is no speed limit currently posted on the southbound side. [3:52:03, 3:52:08]: So I don't know if you guys would address that because it seems to have been removed. [3:52:09, 3:52:14]: Because of the construction that Henry County has caused there right now. So I can take it up with the county. [3:52:14, 3:52:18]: But I did want to mention there's nothing marked there now. And it's been there for years. [3:52:19, 3:52:23]: Thank you, appreciate it. Next uh individual, name and address, please. [3:52:27, 3:52:30]: Connie Snow, four twenty six Chase Marion Way, McDonough, Georgia. [3:52:32, 3:52:33]: Go right ahead, please. Two comments. [3:52:34, 3:52:54]: So I'm not really gonna speak too much on the development because we all know you're gonna approve it and pass it. We've already been through this a few times with other developments. You're not really gonna listen to us. There's really no point. So I'm gonna express some other items. On 928, I appeared here for the first development project off Patrick Henry Parkway to the Planning Commission in which it was denied. [3:52:54, 3:53:06]: On nine thirty I attended the Bridge Fest event and for the first time had met Al Elton Alexander. When I tried to discuss with him about the Patrick Henry Parkway, he had told me it was already a done deal. [3:53:06, 3:53:26]: Okay. Well, one second, man. First of all, uh I read the comments earlier how the instructions in reference to the public hearing rules. This particular public hearing right now deals with Patrick Henry. It doesn't it doesn't deal with Holloway Road or anything else. No, I'm talking about Patrick Henry if you'd let me finish. Okay. All right. And then the other thing is is that [3:53:26, 3:53:41]: that uh y not only address me, but you really should not be addressing or or referring to any other council members in reference to your comments. All right. Well I'll I'll keep doing that. All right, let's go on then. We'll go ahead and speed along. So basically on nine thirty I was told it was done dil. For me [3:53:42, 3:53:53]: My for me, I was baffled. I thought that everything had to go through a a matter of policy and procedures or rules. And none of us had had a chance to really hear much on this. So I couldn't understand why it was a done deal. [3:53:54, 3:54:14]: My questions, however, pertaining to this actual project are as follows. On august eighteenth, there was a meeting conducted with people on this board regarding this project, where you guys discussed it. On September 20th and 22nd, the attorney reached out for the developer to Mr. Ryan Anderson asking if that meeting on August [3:54:13, 3:54:32]: August eighteenth could suffice as the pre application project. And if he needed to complete another application, at which time he was told that the meeting that you guys had would suffice as it. I don't know what happened during that meeting, neither does the public. I'm pointing out that because it's a very big area of concern, not just for me, but a lot of people in this community. [3:54:33, 3:54:53]: In addition, what's happening around here is you guys are immediately annexing off the land, throwing it into PUD, not adhering to county here uh county setbacks or variances. Oftentimes if there's a a neighborhood up close to it, we are not getting the same respect as other people in the county would. And the variances are [3:54:53, 3:55:11]: severely diminished to where it actually hurts our property. Um we in our area do not feel like we are getting due process because to me, if y'all had this meeting on August 18th, when was the meeting with the county? I was told the county like denied it. So when did that meeting happen? [3:55:11, 3:55:30]: I mean this is January, so that y'all had a meeting on August eighteenth. Um, according to y'all's procedures, uh a pre-application meeting must be had in front of a staff planner during that meeting, and then the pre application pre application must be done within up to one week prior. [3:55:30, 3:55:38]: There was no staff planner in that meeting on August eighteenth, and I kind of feel like that meeting circumvented the process that you guys set forth. That's in your book. [3:55:40, 3:56:00]: I'm gonna keep going. I know other people wanna speak. Here's what I'm saying. While you're protecting the rights of builders, yes, sure you are protecting their rights, you are infringing on ours. We are not getting the same equal protection as every other citizen in this county is, and that's because you move it over to PUD, don't adhere to variances. Our health, our overwhelm safety overall safety, our quality of life is being [3:56:00, 3:56:12]: diminished. You don't hold public hearings for us. You're doing a lot of things behind closed doors. And it's not being honest and upfront. And at the end of the day we're suffering. So you guys can keep hiding what you want to hide, but we all know you're not doing the right thing. [3:56:13, 3:56:17]: Thank you. Uh next comment from this individual please, name and address. [3:56:21, 3:56:41]: Hi, Tasha Kempel, 410 Chase Maringway, McDonough, Georgia, 30253. How are y'all doing? Um, I had noticed today whenever I was running down Patrick Henry that y'all had installed the new street lights. I think they're beautiful. Question is y'all um stated that y'all were gonna be doing why. [3:56:41, 3:56:50]: On that Patrick Henry. So if you look on one side, there's the street lights, the other side is the power lines. [3:56:50, 3:57:05]: So is this a waste of tax dollar money? Because it hasn't even been widened and y'all are putting brand new equipment up and polls. So is this gonna be more labor, more costs later on when you go to have to like rewiden it? Why don't you stop the project right now? [3:57:06, 3:57:09]: Save the tax dollar money until you can get the road widened. [3:57:10, 3:57:20]: And also another thing is how many lanes specifically is for this road. I was heard I heard three and then I heard four tonight, so I'm just wanting to clarify that as well. [3:57:22, 3:57:24]: That's it. Thank you. Mm-hmm. [3:57:28, 3:57:32]: Okay, no problem. Thank you. Uh sir. Name and address, please. [3:57:34, 3:57:37]: Frederick Skinner, one hundred twelve, Saxon Lane McDonough. [3:57:38, 3:57:40]: Wanna just ask a question, a couple of questions. [3:57:40, 3:57:43]: You talked about the schools and that you guys can't [3:57:44, 3:57:48]: Can't uh the schools don't dictate what we get built in our communities, correct? [3:57:49, 3:57:50]: Correct. [3:57:52, 3:57:56]: Bring out all all these people in and it affects our schools. Is that not correct? [3:57:57, 3:57:58]: I'm just asking. [3:57:59, 3:58:11]: Sir, people move here. We I'm no, I'm asking. I'm asking'cause you already said that they're gonna move here. So I just figured it was easier to ask you. You guys control who move here, basically. No we don't. No, no, no. You don't? [3:58:11, 3:58:13]: So why are you approving all these properties? [3:58:14, 3:58:15]: If you don't [3:58:16, 3:58:22]: Okay. Well, Okay. I guess that wasn't the right question. Okay. We'll go to the next. [3:58:22, 3:58:25]: So as commissioners, we already talked about [3:58:26, 3:58:31]: You guys talked about a couple of things. I was walking about just taking notes as you were talking. You talked about the schools. [3:58:32, 3:58:34]: You talked about the master plan. [3:58:34, 3:58:37]: We have a master plan, Costco over the corner. [3:58:38, 3:58:40]: And uh is that a master plan, the Costco building? [3:58:41, 3:58:44]: I don't see any I'm just curious. Is that I'm asking no question. Is that a master plan? [3:58:45, 3:58:53]: Is it on a master plan? The Costco part of the Bridget of Jodico. It's part of part of it. Have we have we sold out of those apartments and homes over there? [3:58:54, 3:58:56]: I doubt it. Not yet. Those are rentals, right? [3:58:57, 3:58:58]: They're not home, so [3:58:59, 3:59:01]: You're trying to build more rentals. [3:59:02, 3:59:03]: Right next to us, right? [3:59:03, 3:59:04]: in our community. [3:59:05, 3:59:08]: And we already have a set on Jodico that just opened up that are rentals also, right? [3:59:09, 3:59:13]: So where's the value coming in for people that really want to buy a home? So [3:59:13, 3:59:15]: Like my kids, they want to buy a home, they can't. [3:59:16, 3:59:19]: Не канафордованка з оверs. [3:59:20, 3:59:21]: We have nothing for them to buy. [3:59:24, 3:59:25]: I'm a build I work in homes. [3:59:26, 3:59:27]: All I see are rentals. [3:59:28, 3:59:32]: My kid can't afford to buy rent and he can't afford to buy a home. So what does he give? [3:59:33, 3:59:34]: I don't want to move back with me. [3:59:35, 3:59:36]: But that might be what he has to do. [3:59:37, 3:59:42]: Because you guys are bringing in rentals. You're bringing in stuff that we can't the kids can't afford. [3:59:42, 3:59:45]: New first time homeowners can't afford the rent. [3:59:45, 3:59:46]: They can't afford to buy a home. [3:59:47, 3:59:48]: I'm gonna leave that alone. [3:59:51, 3:59:56]: I can get a little extra time, I'm sure, right? Everybody else got extra time. Right. Go ahead, sir. Okay, thank you. [3:59:57, 4:00:00]: The one thing that I I I keep hearing in this in this meeting. [4:00:01, 4:00:03]: And I need you guys to really understand that. [4:00:03, 4:00:05]: You guys keep short changing people. [4:00:06, 4:00:07]: You guys are here for the people. [4:00:08, 4:00:12]: Regardless of what all this other stuff if you have, if you dislike us or don't like us, [4:00:13, 4:00:15]: You were here because of the people. [4:00:15, 4:00:18]: And if that's not what you're here for, just tell us. [4:00:19, 4:00:20]: We don't mind. [4:00:20, 4:00:24]: We'll find somebody else that wants to help the people because that's what it's all about. [4:00:25, 4:00:29]: I I get that you know you wanna improve everything and I'm for it. [4:00:29, 4:00:34]: But the one thing I don't wan it just keeps blowing my mind. We tryna improve everything on seventy five. [4:00:35, 4:00:43]: What about right here? You put an amphitheater, you don't even have a hotel for people to go to. You don't have a restaurant for them to go to. Why not improve this area? [4:00:44, 4:00:48]: You got all this parks, you got all this space here, but you're trying to put it all on seventy five. [4:00:49, 4:00:50]: Why? [4:00:50, 4:00:51]: You got six seventy five. [4:00:52, 4:00:53]: Did you forget about that? [4:00:53, 4:00:54]: Is there for you? [4:00:55, 4:00:56]: Why everything has to be over there? [4:00:57, 4:00:58]: Why? [4:00:58, 4:01:00]: The schools can't handle it. [4:01:00, 4:01:02]: We can't handle it. T I'm telling you, we can't. [4:01:03, 4:01:05]: I don't have kids in school, but the kids can handle it. [4:01:06, 4:01:09]: I try to volunteer, I try to work it's overcrowded. [4:01:10, 4:01:11]: When I first moved here [4:01:11, 4:01:14]: С твої кис на сіна клас, на немор. [4:01:15, 4:01:18]: Regardless of what you guys think of me or what you what you look at me. [4:01:18, 4:01:20]: You guys are here for the people. [4:01:20, 4:01:21]: Period. [4:01:22, 4:01:27]: If you're not here for the people, I know we do all these fancy things, Facebook, Instagram. That means nothing. [4:01:29, 4:01:31]: If you can't look me in the eye and tell me honestly, [4:01:31, 4:01:32]: This is what we're doing for you. [4:01:33, 4:01:34]: What's the point? [4:01:37, 4:01:57]: Thank you for your time. Um okay, Mr. Ryan and uh Sir you may want to come back to the podium and Mr. Gardner come on back up as well. Uh in reference to the bridge of Jodico, it's a mixed use development that's it is the most southern part of Stockbridge, and we have a lot of a lot of things that are going, a lot of restaurants and uh all also departments going there. [4:01:57, 4:02:17]: There, there'll be some single-family homes as well. Affordable housing is always an issue that we try to put within our uh within the structure in Stockbridge as well as Henry County and the downtown area. Uh, we have plans. Matter of fact, there have been several different restaurants open here recently, and we continue to look at build up the downtown area and may and expand it because of the amphitheater, which is phase one of the LC. [4:02:17, 4:02:33]: And phase two is is continuing to look at building up and we have plans for that. Building up the downtown area is coming. Takes time to do all that. And um and Mr. Alexander is on the downtown development, Adela's on downtown development agency. Is that right, sir? [4:02:33, 4:02:52]: Yes, sir. And I'd like I'd like to invite the gentleman to frozen smokes across the tracks, a brand new restaurant. Okay. I didn't know if there's anything else you want to mention at at time. Uh Miss Gan, you I w you have something. I wanna g to give these gentlemen some questions here that came up, but you have something right now or you gonna wait. Well I did I did have one one comment or two. Um [4:02:53, 4:02:54]: As a parent. [4:02:55, 4:03:15]: I've always made a concern and address, even though it's illegal for us to address the fact that the schools to me appear overcrowded. That's my opinion. I spoke to someone from the that represents the school, a staff member, and I say [4:03:15, 4:03:19]: Listen, I'm sorry. My apologies, you know. [4:03:20, 4:03:26]: you know, all these apartments are coming up and what are we gonna do? How are we gonna control that with the school? [4:03:26, 4:03:29]: And their response shocked me. [4:03:29, 4:03:32]: Their responses is they've studied and projected [4:03:33, 4:03:44]: this population increasing as well. So they're planning as well. I thought they were gonna say, no, you y'all need to slow down. Slow down from building. But they they didn't. [4:03:44, 4:03:49]: And I still disagree with that. I'm not necessarily saying I agree with what they said. [4:03:49, 4:03:57]: But what I'm saying to you is that there are different components and different entities and we all have to work together. [4:03:58, 4:03:59]: You know, it's [4:04:01, 4:04:03]: A double edged sword. You want [4:04:04, 4:04:10]: uh uh trader joe's but you don't want the population that was required to have that trader joe's. [4:04:10, 4:04:16]: You want these fine dining restaurants, but the population requires [4:04:16, 4:04:20]: That th those restaurants and those places are scoping out. [4:04:20, 4:04:26]: Require a specific amount of rooftops. Right. It is what it is. [4:04:26, 4:04:28]: And I think that [4:04:28, 4:04:30]: Іт бикомс а лак. [4:04:31, 4:04:32]: Uh [4:04:32, 4:04:35]: You know, uh I feel you. [4:04:35, 4:04:45]: I don't wanna be piled up on each other. I don't wanna be in New York, right? I wanna live uh in Henry County and there is a balance. But there's also [4:04:45, 4:05:05]: You want these nice things. You're tired of driving to the north side of town. If I hear it one more time, I'm tired of having to go to Buckhead to go eat at a nice restaurant. I'm tired of having to go, I can't have a nice hotel here. Why can't we have it here? Well the rooftops have to be here and facilities have to be here. [4:05:05, 4:05:18]: And we are planning. We have studies. We involve. We do everything we can to reach out to the community and say, hello, we're having this study. We're thinking about doing this. [4:05:19, 4:05:35]: We can only do so much. I mean, you put it in a newspaper, you post it on Facebook, you put it on some pages I've never even heard of, X, which is I guess used to be Twitter or whatever the case may be, and you pumping it out there, and then you had the same two or three people involved. [4:05:35, 4:05:37]: My suggestion is get involved. [4:05:37, 4:05:44]: Come to those studies, show what you really want, but understand that it comes with the price of [4:05:44, 4:05:53]: Specific rooftops. You're exactly right. A one-bedroom apartment meant for$1,800 is crazy to me. [4:05:53, 4:05:55]: It's absurd. It costs more than our mortgages. [4:05:56, 4:06:03]: Two bedrooms, twenty two hundred, three bedrooms, twenty five hundred. But re in reality, that's the market prices right now. [4:06:04, 4:06:10]: And the kids that are graduating from college are getting it while they sit at home in their pajamas and work. [4:06:11, 4:06:13]: Those are the studies that we're getting. [4:06:15, 4:06:23]: They get the new self-care and they also get these this type of life. And that's what they're looking at. Those are the trends. [4:06:23, 4:06:24]: And so [4:06:25, 4:06:29]: I ask that you bear with us on that. You know, it's a little give and take. [4:06:30, 4:06:39]: I there are certain things that I don't want in my specific district and community that I'm just going to stra st straight up fight against. [4:06:39, 4:06:50]: But I can't say, well, when you look at the majority of the communities, whether it's Gwinnett or Cobb or Jones Creek or wherever. [4:06:51, 4:06:57]: apartment units and rental units and different things now are being placed strategically on the interstates. [4:06:57, 4:06:58]: Off the interstates. [4:06:59, 4:07:04]: And the further you go out, the larger the landmass and lot sizes are. [4:07:04, 4:07:09]: But the price of'em is just as much as that large landmass. [4:07:10, 4:07:18]: And so it is a give and take, and it's gonna take community discussions to have it. We're not ignoring you. I'm not. [4:07:18, 4:07:20]: I care about my community. [4:07:20, 4:07:30]: I care about each and everything. Miss Fields, I heard exactly what you said about making sure that we have more meetings and have more community involvement. [4:07:31, 4:07:36]: And I wasn't gonna bring it up tonight, but I'm definitely gonna bring it up to staff. I can guarantee you that. [4:07:36, 4:07:37]: So I heard it. [4:07:38, 4:07:39]: And I believe in that. [4:07:40, 4:07:43]: And no, I don't want my kids in classrooms with thirty people. [4:07:43, 4:07:53]: But when I address it, I also hear, oh, we're planning for it. We know we're on it. Not y'all need to get together with the school systems. That's not what's being said. [4:07:53, 4:07:55]: They too have people studying. [4:07:55, 4:07:58]: The growth and the trends of what's to come. [4:07:58, 4:08:00]: And they're saying we got it. [4:08:01, 4:08:02]: So I'm gonna let them do their job. [4:08:03, 4:08:07]: And I'm gonna try to do mine and I'm gonna try to explain it to you the best I can. [4:08:07, 4:08:08]: But I want a trade of Joe's. [4:08:09, 4:08:10]: I'm tired of driving. [4:08:12, 4:08:15]: But I wanna also make sure that it's smart growth and quality growth. [4:08:17, 4:08:24]: All right. All right, gentlemen. So this pre application meeting, August eighteenth meeting, what what do we where can we solve this? What what's going on here? [4:08:25, 4:08:40]: Uh pre application meaning is a meeting that an applicant must have with staff is mandated before they can even submit a rezoning or any type of zoning application. It's a meeting and pre requ pre requirement for submitting a zoning application. [4:08:40, 4:08:43]: Okay. So did you need in in added? [4:08:43, 4:08:52]: Yeah, so uh Ryan was at the meeting on August 18th. Yeah, and so we covered, you know, the development proposal, the site plan, and [4:08:52, 4:09:12]: You know, our comment was we can come do it again, but we've already done it once. Can we count that as a uh as a pre-application meeting? And just so you know, there's nothing unique about that. We do that all the time. We we try and engage directly with cities and counties, staff early on. If you'd said in the very beginning, or we'd gotten the feeling, I guess, no one's gonna say, but we've gotten the feeling that this wasn't something Stockwords wanted. [4:09:12, 4:09:15]: And and so [4:09:15, 4:09:16]: You know [4:09:16, 4:09:25]: It just didn't make sense to have it again. We asked for uh basically you know whether we could count the August 18 meeting. Ryan was there, uh I believe there's some [4:09:25, 4:09:29]: Linda Gordon, I mean the the entire staff was there and we had [4:09:29, 4:09:34]: several conversations leading up to the filing of the application, you know, about [4:09:34, 4:09:46]: you know, this and that on on on on on um you know this proposed development. The whole point of a pre application meeting is that really for the staff to get some sense some s sense that something is coming. [4:09:47, 4:10:04]: Not necessarily all sense, but some sense something's coming. And more importantly, explain the process to the applicant, right? Here's how it works. You file an application, we gotta have it by this date. Here's the process. And all of that was covered. And frankly, you know, for someone like me who does this for a living, I I understand the process. So it would have been duplicative, but [4:10:05, 4:10:09]: There's nothing unusual about what we requested for. There's nothing weird going on here. It was all [4:10:10, 4:10:30]: I mean I uh i it's easy to cast stones, right? It really is. I mean uh that's not the way I do business, it's not the way I've had engaged with Stockbridge at all, it's not the way Stockbridge is engaged with me. Everything's been one hundred percent above board. The meeting on August eighteen had three members of staff and we asked that it count as a pre application meeting and they agreed. That's uh it's as simple as that. Okay. [4:10:30, 4:10:35]: You can is there anything that we need to discuss further? I wrote down twenty, twenty two September some type of [4:10:35, 4:10:55]: So I think what she said is there was a a meeting in person on August 18. And it was in September that we wrote an email saying, Hey, does w can that meeting count as a pre-application meeting? Okay. She's refer referencing an email. There wasn't a follow-up meeting. Okay. All right. Thank you. Um now in reference to Patrick Henry, now obviously Patrick Henry goes in and out of the county to parts of the city. [4:10:55, 4:11:15]: And I know they just repaid the county just repaid Patrick Henry. And so there in the future, sir. I'm sorry. The county and the city repay Patrick Henry. Okay, we're going to have to do that. Let's make sure we get that right. Okay. And understanding that place across from Georgia Power, uh where the new um senior resident. [4:11:15, 4:11:35]: retirement community, uh assisted living that's not in the city. So the county is putting up those street lights, not us. That was good. And they were doing that. Uh and I actually I called Mr. Gardner about that. And that that section is not actually in the city. So the county is actually doing that. Okay. [4:11:35, 4:11:55]: get to that but that's that's part of the product. Okay. That solves that in that aspect. And the question was made about what we're doing. What we're doing with this development and with the Patrick Henry Parkway master plan is to put a ten foot multi-use path along all of the section that's in the city. That's part of the master plan, right, Mr. Gardner? It is. [4:11:55, 4:12:15]: That master plan will do exactly what you said, which is it will cover Patrick Henry Parkway. It will be 10-foot path. On a 10-foot path, you can ride your bike on it. In the state of Georgia, you cannot ride a bike on a five-foot sidewalk, nobody over 13. So we make sure that we have the path wide enough. [4:12:15, 4:12:35]: enough eight to ten feet so that you can ride your bike on it and also potentially ride your golf cart on it. And certainly there's been talks about, as far as I'm concerned, is uh moving it around and requiring those ten foot pads so that we could use those uh at some point the vision would [4:12:35, 4:12:55]: Would be to be able to leave the country club with on your golf cart without getting into a car, use these paths and take them all the way to this new development or Jodeco Road. Certainly, that requires planning on our part. So certainly we're doing our part. We just need the county to stop approving five. [4:12:55, 4:13:01]: five foot sidewalks uh i in in the interim gap for us so that we can fill those in. [4:13:01, 4:13:09]: All right, thank you for that. The set the setback issue. The reference to setback from the uh setback, can you discuss that further? [4:13:09, 4:13:16]: Yeah. I yeah, I wouldn't follow on that one. I think she may have misunderstood what we were requested to do. We're not asking for any kind of setback variance. [4:13:16, 4:13:17]: Okay. [4:13:18, 4:13:34]: All right. I think Mr. Gardner to clarify is that when we you and I were talking, is that right now you have Patrick Henry Park where you have the what the East the East Side or the what is it? [4:13:35, 4:13:37]: The current side is the West is the [4:13:37, 4:13:41]: So it's the west side of of Patrick Henry. [4:13:41, 4:14:01]: Is complete. This is all on the west side. So the the east side is complete. That's your north-south lane that's currently now going back and so the east side is complete. On the side where their property is, there would be two additional lanes that would be placed on the west side over there on their particular property. [4:14:01, 4:14:11]: property. The the east side already exists, but where Patrick Henry Parkway is, it would be expanded where those street lights are, there would actually be the median. [4:14:12, 4:14:32]: Got eventually you would hope that the the key Right now that where they're putting the street lights now, if they did do it, that would be the media because on the other side of that that would be the other two lanes. Right. But hopefully as we build the parkway, same thing with the east rest. [4:14:33, 4:14:53]: Sorry. I'm sorry. Same thing with the East West Um East Lake Road, right? At some point it would have been cool to put because it's a parkway, to put lights down the median, right? Um the chairns on both sides of the road. So hopefully when we do this roadway, that'll be something that we incorporate. So those lights on those poles will go away and you'll have better [4:14:53, 4:14:56]: Better lighting down that parkway because it'll be along the center medium. [4:14:57, 4:14:59]: With with landscaping. [4:14:59, 4:15:17]: Absolutely. And that's the one thing we need to explain as well. This is part of the parkway corridor, right, Mr. Anderson? So there is upgraded landscaping requirements and beautification and all of that already incorporated into this into the comprehensive plan. Yeah, as required by the PMU, yes. [4:15:18, 4:15:27]: Out of curiosity, do we have any responsibility for these speed limit signs along the area? Even though I even though the the Pack or Henry goes in and out of from county to city? [4:15:29, 4:15:41]: can't remember exactly which one. I know they probably took it down when they were doing the paving. Right. Um, but I'll make sure we make note to contact those guys to put it back up. Okay. [4:15:42, 4:15:55]: Alrighty. Council, you have any other questions for these gentlemen? Any in reference at all? We good? All right. Uh yes m yes ma'am. Uh just for point of clarification on the transportation improvement. [4:15:56, 4:16:01]: Um it was stated that either the developer would do it or SPLOSS, was that decided? [4:16:03, 4:16:06]: Trying you talking about tr transfer improvement for Patrick Henry? Yeah. The widening? [4:16:07, 4:16:08]: It'll be a combination of both. [4:16:09, 4:16:11]: Is that part of the condition? [4:16:11, 4:16:18]: Right, Mr. Gardner. The widening w is a combination agreement between they leave the right of way and [4:16:18, 4:16:19]: As well. [4:16:23, 4:16:26]: This is the second one. [4:16:26, 4:16:46]: The right of way ex already exists. I think the the discussion we've been having with the folks to the south of us that we're gonna have with developers is gonna be the county's rule is that they make the developer pay for the improvements on their side, right? So part of what we looked at was how do we do this in a cooperative way, where the city, the county, [4:16:46, 4:16:57]: and the developers along the corridor would pay for Patrick Henry improvements. So it's not all on the city, it's not all on the county. It's a shared cost between everybody everyone along the corridor. [4:16:59, 4:17:00]: Okay. [4:17:01, 4:17:05]: Um okay [4:17:06, 4:17:09]: So looking at the layout of this site. [4:17:10, 4:17:12]: What is behind it? [4:17:13, 4:17:14]: Over here to the west. [4:17:15, 4:17:22]: Yeah, that's t uh the highway. High seventy five. Actually let me see if I can I've got a I've got a city map here, it might show it better. [4:17:27, 4:17:37]: I mean, is there residentials somewhere? Nope. No, there's nothing. Okay. There's it's us on the highway basically. Okay. The closest residential is Eagles Line and Country Club. [4:17:38, 4:17:41]: The closest residential is Eagles Land and Country Club. [4:17:42, 4:17:48]: Okay, gotcha. I was gonna ask about a stub out or interconnectivity, but is that not [4:17:48, 4:17:50]: It's not necessary. [4:17:50, 4:17:51]: Not here, no ma'am. [4:17:52, 4:18:06]: Because we're already putting the they're already putting the path along Patrick Henry, so it'll connect to where we're doing the master plan for the property south of us. It'll connect there. Okay but they'll be interparcel for for us on our on what we're doing as part of that plan. Yes. Thank you. You're welcome. [4:18:08, 4:18:28]: All right, Council, if you don't have any other questions, then uh we'll go through this process here. Annexation case AX two three uh excuse me two zero two three-zero six, council district five. Council consideration or request of annexation of certain property and on and near Patrick Henry Parkway to allow for the construction. [4:18:28, 4:18:48]: A mixed use development consisting of multifamily residential and retail commercial uses on the portion of the property. The applicant is Waypoint Residential, CO Dennis J. Webb Jr., Smith Gramble, and Russell LLP. The property contains four parcels in the land lot 46 of District 6. [4:18:48, 4:19:08]: Listed below with 20.91 uh total acres of unincorporated county area. Parcel number 052-01 uh two five zero two seven contains eleven point four two eight acres. Parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two eight contains four point. [4:19:08, 4:19:28]: Parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two one to be annexed but not included within a proposed development contains one point one six four acres. I need a motion to approve or deny this, please. So moved. Okay. Is to approve and second. I second. [4:19:28, 4:19:30]: Ms. Gasek, in all favor, please indicate. [4:19:31, 4:19:51]: All right, uh Miss Barber, you approve? Okay, so I've got uh four votes and uh four votes right now at this point. Okay, comprehensive plan amendment, CP 2023-07, uh Council District 5, Council consideration to request a comprehensive plan amendment to assign the future land. [4:19:51, 4:20:11]: Use designation of medium density mixed use to certain property on and near Patrick Henry Parkway to allow for construction of a mixed use development consisting of multifamily residential and retail commercial uses. The applicant is Waypoint Residential CO Dennis J. Webb Jr., Smith Gramble and Russell LLP. The property contains [4:20:11, 4:20:20]: Three parcels and landlock 46 of district six as listed below with 20.91 total acres in the unincorporated Henry County. [4:20:21, 4:20:41]: Parcel number 052 dash zero one zero two zero uh excuse me. Parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two four contains four point zero three five acres. Parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two seven contains eleven point four two acres. [4:20:41, 4:21:01]: two acres parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two eight contains four point two seven nine acres. Okay. I need a motion to approve this please. So moved. Is there a second miss m Miss Gantt you second that? All in favor please indicate. Okay. [4:21:01, 4:21:21]: uh vote there. The rezoning case RZ two zero three uh two zero two three dash zero eight once again located council district five. Council consideration of the request for rezoning to assign the zoning districts of PUD Plan Unit Development or PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District to a certain property on Patrick Henry Parkway to allow for construction [4:21:21, 4:21:41]: Of mixed-use developments consisting of multifamily residential and retail commercial usage. The applicant is Waypoint Residential, CEO Dennis J. Webb Jr. of Smith, Cramble and Russell LLP. The property contains three parcels of landlot 46 of District 6 as listed below with 20.91 total acres within unincorporated. [4:21:41, 4:22:01]: Henry County. Parcel number 052-0102-5024 contains 4.05 acres. Parcel 052-0102-5027 contains eleven point four two acres. Parcel number 052-0102-5028 contains 4.279. [4:22:00, 4:22:05]: acres and so I need a motion to approve this as well. [4:22:06, 4:22:11]: Okay, right. Is this where the conditions would be appropriate? Read the existing conditions and [4:22:12, 4:22:14]: To the record. Okay. All right. [4:22:18, 4:22:20]: All right, uh twenty three or [4:22:31, 4:22:44]: Okay, the the density rate sh the first condition, the density rate shall be kept at a at sixteen point four dwelling units per acre or a maximum three hundred and twenty four units for the entire proposed mixed use development. [4:22:44, 4:23:04]: The project will be in conformance with the City of Stockbridge Unified Development Code and all other city codes regarding site development standards and other regulations that are found. The proposed mixed use development shall be constructed according to a design which is similar to the one that is shown on the applicant's submitted site plan titled Waypoint Residential, which was prepared for the city. [4:23:04, 4:23:12]: By Kimley Horns and associates on September 28, 2023. A 25 foot buffer shall be installed in the north. [4:23:20, 4:23:22]: Uh no I was sleeping. [4:23:23, 4:23:23]: Okay. [4:23:24, 4:23:25]: Who's that? [4:23:25, 4:23:27]: Come on, have a s have a sleep. [4:23:31, 4:23:33]: Oh see, okay. Close it up. [4:23:34, 4:23:35]: No, they have a seat, please. [4:23:39, 4:23:41]: Yeah, no. Which one? Twenty three oh eight. [4:23:41, 4:23:42]: That's what [4:23:45, 4:23:50]: Okay, yeah. I'm I'm sorry, I I wrote the one that before it was edited. [4:23:51, 4:23:52]: So I [4:23:54, 4:24:05]: Uh okay, um the deceler condition number six, the deceleration lanes as shown in the site plans shall be provided. The developer shall take the appropriate steps to prov preserve and protect the cemetery. [4:24:06, 4:24:26]: The developers shall establish a maintenance of all common areas in the development. A fence shall be installed adjacent to the dog park and on Georgia Powers Easement on the south side of the property. All non-commercial parking facilities shall be screened from the view of Patrick Henry Parkway by the use and maintenance of tall dense landscaping. [4:24:26, 4:24:27]: The proposed development [4:24:29, 4:24:44]: shall provide access to parcel easement access to parcel zero five two dash zero one oh two five oh two one. No structure shall be built within the file zone of any inst interstate billboard which is located or may be located on parcel. [4:24:45, 4:24:49]: Zero five two dash zero one o two five oh two one. [4:24:50, 4:24:57]: [15897.8, 15899.0]: So those are the conditions. [4:25:00, 4:25:05]: Okay, well you know the existing condition of the path. I didn't hear that it [4:25:06, 4:25:21]: Oh, that that would be that's an added um that's a that would be an added condition plus is already conditioned on the site plan and it's shown on the site plan. I just wanna make sure that it's in there so that's assured that that is actually the case. Okay, we'll add that. All right. [4:25:25, 4:25:28]: Clarif clarify w what you just said, please. [4:25:35, 4:25:44]: There is a ten foot bluff involved in this on fr front part. Yeah, on the frontage of um Patrick Henry Boulevard. [4:25:49, 4:25:59]: Yes, the v the fountains are to be beautiful uh beautification. Uh there're not to there'll be uh beautification amenities with fountains uh in the water features. [4:26:06, 4:26:07]: Yes. [4:26:10, 4:26:27]: And and the the one more condition, any future signalized intersections require uh the black mass post arm signals signage, uh if signals are to be installed if that uh deemed in at some future point. [4:26:28, 4:26:33]: Is that agreeable by you, sir? Is that agreeable with you gentlemen? [4:26:34, 4:26:36]: Signals and signage. [4:26:37, 4:26:38]: Okay. [4:26:46, 4:26:56]: Anything else, Ryan, you need to add on the side of the side of the side. Sorry, and then the uh as long as well as uh when the signals are added, there will be stamped paver crosswalks. [4:27:00, 4:27:04]: Once again, you gentlemen good with that as well? Okay. [4:27:07, 4:27:09]: Ms. Halder, you have all that? [4:27:09, 4:27:13]: M Ryan, you ha you got all that as well? Yes, sir. We have it, yes. Mm-hmm. [4:27:13, 4:27:22]: So I already read uh I already read through that uh Okay, and then one more Ms. Gann is always reminded the flop cameras at the entrances, yeah. [4:27:22, 4:27:23]: Okay. [4:27:26, 4:27:27]: Flock cameras as well. [4:27:28, 4:27:32]: Once again, gentlemen, you you you you good with that? [4:27:33, 4:27:38]: All right. So move. All right. So move. Is there a second to the motion? [4:27:39, 4:27:41]: A second. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [4:27:42, 4:28:02]: Namage decision. Thank you very much. Okay, so now there's a learnment lesson here. So we have another uh public hearing in reference to the variance. But let me just read the variance case first before we open the public hearing. Variance case VR 2022-04, Council District 5. Council consideration of a request of three variants. [4:28:02, 4:28:22]: Variances on a certain property of Patrick Henry Parkway to allow for the construction of a mixed-use development consisting of multifamily residential and rental commercial uses. The applicant has requested three variances of the property. One, a variance to allow residential uses of the first floor on the first floor of the building, two, a variance to eliminate the requirement. [4:28:22, 4:28:42]: Requirement the vehicle connection between adjoining properties and three variants to allow parking in front of the building. The applicant is Wary Point Residential, CO Dennis J. Webb Jr. of Smith, Gramble and Russell LLP. The property contains three parcels, land lot, forty-six of district six and listed below twenty. [4:28:42, 4:29:02]: twenty point two nine total acres in an unincorporated Henry County. Parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two four contains four point zero three five acres. Parcel number zero five two dash zero one zero two five zero two seven contains eleven point four two acres. Parcel number zero five two dash zero [4:29:02, 4:29:10]: Mr. Ryan, please. Uh Mr Anderson has to say, please. [4:29:12, 4:29:32]: My file is corrupt for some reason. But however, these are basically administrative variances for exemptions from the Parkway mixed use overlay district that uh staff doesn't have the authority to approve that we had to bring before council. Um the first uh variance to allow uh residential uses on the first floor of the building. Because he would have s because the applicant would have seven [4:29:32, 4:29:35]: Separate um retail. [4:29:36, 4:29:56]: As a part of the development, um staff feel that this would be an o oversaturation of um of retail uses by requiring uh requiring um retail on all first floors of the buildings of the apartments. So we we'll agree with them just having one centralized area of uh retail, so it won't be an oversaturation. [4:29:56, 4:30:16]: Uh a variance to eliminate the requirement for a vehicle connection between a jo a jo uh adjoining building. Staff feels like the that this requirement uh is acceptable and it won't it wouldn't cause any development issues. And a variance to allow parking in the front of the building. Uh this is on one building on the on the side that's really is a [4:30:16, 4:30:31]: question as to whether or not it's even actually in the front. But just to be safe, um we decided to bring it to the uh council anyway. It's really on the side and all of all the other buildings will have parking in the rear. Uh I'm trying to get my file open so I can show you guys. [4:30:36, 4:30:43]: Why Ryan is doing that to counsel any specific questions he may be able to ask answer simultaneously if you have any in reference to Verences? [4:30:44, 4:30:53]: This product will be similar to what we see uh at Jodico with the stairwells and everything concealed in the building and such. [4:30:55, 4:31:06]: Yes, yes, sir. Everything will be concealed. I um I don't know, my bearings p um uh staff report won't open. I was trying to show you guys the site plan. Um [4:31:12, 4:31:16]: So it's this building right here where the um what requested variance would be. [4:31:19, 4:31:25]: Oh, that's the wrong staff report. I'm sorry. I can't pull it up. Hold on. Um [4:31:26, 4:31:29]: Yeah, go on. Yeah. [4:31:32, 4:31:32]: There you go. [4:31:34, 4:31:36]: That's it right here. Yep. [4:31:38, 4:31:40]: So let me reorientate this. [4:31:51, 4:31:54]: So this is the site plan right here. [4:31:54, 4:31:55]: Mm-hmm. [4:32:05, 4:32:10]: All right, so um council any questions further for Mr. Anderson at all? Anybody? [4:32:11, 4:32:12]: No. [4:32:16, 4:32:23]: Okay, if there are no questions thus far uh Sir you have anything additional you need to add? I'm sorry. [4:32:25, 4:32:32]: You know, it's it's the screen. Um, is this mine? No, that's mine. What presentation was it? [4:32:34, 4:32:35]: Pull up your question. [4:32:36, 4:32:37]: I think this is mine. [4:32:38, 4:32:44]: It was coming in and out when I was looking at it. It it would it got blurry, then it would get sharper. Let's see if it [4:32:47, 4:32:55]: Well I sorry, I dinweb eleven oh five West Species Street, Atlanta, Georgia, three oh three oh nine here on the half of Waypoint Residential. I I when I w there we go. [4:32:56, 4:33:16]: When I was speaking earlier, I noticed that it was blurry and it would clear itself. Let me just briefly touch on these uh uh three variances. Number one, the overlay requires ground floor commercial in every residential building, okay? Tech by code. As you can see, we've got four fronting Patrick Henry, excuse me, five. Um and uh [4:33:18, 4:33:19]: There's just not [4:33:20, 4:33:40]: Support for that much uh commercial out here, is I think Mr. Anderson was trying to say. So what we've done is centralize it here in building six. Again, it'll be fourteen thousand square feet of non-residential space behind shopfront glass. It's gonna look like true commercial. And while we're not meeting the black letter of the code, I think we meet the spirit. That's that was our intent. Uh number two, interpartial access. [4:33:40, 4:33:58]: have it in a way because we have committed to a 10-foot multi-use path that'll run along the entire frontage of Patrick Henry. So that is interparsel access of a s of uh of a type. But the overlay also requires vehicular interparcel access. And as you can see, that doesn't work on this site because of the pot topography. We've got stormwater ponds on the on both sides. [4:33:59, 4:34:16]: Uh and we also have a Georgia Power easement here on the East. So we have a hardship. Staff has recognized it. Again, we've tried to to counter that by focusing on uh you know sort of the true multimodal access on the front of the property. The last one is uh uh a variance uh to allow parking in front of the building. So th this is [4:34:17, 4:34:24]: We've never been clear on whether we needed this. Again, you see the buildings that front Patrick Henry here. You see these little rectangles that also front. Those are actually garages and they're [4:34:25, 4:34:28]: Four sided so there's solid structures that will hide the parking behind it. [4:34:29, 4:34:35]: Staff says we don't actually need this variance anymore because we've agreed in the zoning conditions, as you just saw, to heavily plant. [4:34:35, 4:34:40]: The front edge along Patrick Henry to hide the building. So because of that, they say we don't need the variance, but we're [4:34:40, 4:34:47]: No one's really clear, you know, until this gets built. So we left it in there just out of abundance of caution. But I we we've covered the view shed. [4:34:47, 4:34:58]: From Patrick Henry Thurley with the garages, the landscaping, the buildings brought to the streets. So the parking is going to be f pretty invisible. So those are the th the three variants we variances we've requested. [4:34:59, 4:35:00]: Okay. [4:35:00, 4:35:16]: Okay, uh council any questions thus far? No? All right, this public hearing, so I'll open this up. Any f uh uh comments four for this particular project, comments four, my very left part, my okay. Any public comments four in the middle. [4:35:17, 4:35:24]: My very right. Seeing none. Any comments against negative comments? Anything against a particular project? On my far left. [4:35:25, 4:35:26]: In the middle. [4:35:27, 4:35:35]: Okay for right. Seeing none I will close the public hearing and um ask uh the council [4:35:36, 4:35:40]: Uh for approval of this variance. So moved. Is there a second? [4:35:41, 4:35:41]: I second. [4:35:42, 4:36:00]: From Miss uh from Mr. Alexander and Ms. Gann, all favor, please indicate. All right. Mr. Webb, congratulations, sir. All right. New business. Council consideration to reclassify a crime scene investigator position and to approve a job description for property and evidence custodian. [4:36:01, 4:36:02]: Chief Tremor, please. [4:36:05, 4:36:06]: Sorry, Chief. [4:36:11, 4:36:12]: Yeah. [4:36:13, 4:36:14]: Yeah. [4:36:16, 4:36:18]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Evening. [4:36:20, 4:36:26]: Uh the police department's requesting to reclassify two positions. The first position is a crime scene investigator position. [4:36:27, 4:36:47]: And create a job description for a property and evidence custodian. As the council knows, the police department's moving towards state uh certification and national accreditation. One of the uh key components of that is making sure that we have good checks and balances in our property and evidence uh facility. Uh, we previously had a crime scene investigator who also had property and evidence. [4:36:46, 4:36:50]: Yeah. [4:36:50, 4:37:00]: We've since lost that individual and we need somebody who has the specialized experience to oversee that. So we're proposing reclassifying a crime scene investigator position within the same pay grade. [4:37:00, 4:37:09]: And um advertising for a property and evidence custodian to see us towards our accreditation efforts. There'll be no financial impact, as this will be a reclassification to a current position. [4:37:10, 4:37:11]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [4:37:11, 4:37:17]: I move that council approve a crime scene investigator position to approve a job prescription for property evidence custodian. [4:37:18, 4:37:38]: Okay, okay, Mr. Berry, second that from Miss Gantton, Miss Berry. All in favor, please indicate. Oh I'm sorry. You have a c okay, all in favor, please indicate. Okay, so you name this decision. Thank you very much. Okay, council consideration to reclassify police sergeant position and approve the job description of a crime scene investigation supervisor. Mr. [4:37:38, 4:37:54]: Chief Tremor, please. Yes, much much like this. Um we have received over half a million dollars in uh grant funding to implement state of the art uh crime scene investigation technologies within our police crime lab and uh [4:37:55, 4:38:15]: We need someone who has the skills and expertise to be able to move the crime lab in the direction that we're trying to take it as a department. Uh we currently have a police sergeant over our crime scene investigation unit, and we would like to uh advertise for someone who has the specialized skills uh [4:38:15, 4:38:32]: Um managing a crime lab and also enhance forensics uh capabilities to move this endeavor forward. So we propose reclassifying a police sergeant's position and um implementing a new position for a crime scene investigation supervisor to help us. [4:38:32, 4:38:40]: Move that effort forward. Right. Again, this will be within the same pay grade. There'll be no financial impact. This is not a new position. It's a reclassification. [4:38:40, 4:38:51]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. I move that we approve um to reclassify pol uh police sergeant position and approve a job description for a crime scene investigation service supervisor. [4:38:52, 4:38:53]: Sir Second. [4:38:53, 4:38:55]: Ms. Barber, you second that? [4:38:57, 4:39:00]: Oh, I'm sorry. Um Mr. Berry? [4:39:00, 4:39:03]: Okay, from Miss Gantt to Miss Berry. All favor please indicate. [4:39:04, 4:39:05]: All right. [4:39:05, 4:39:09]: Sometimes gentlemen I have a tendency not to look to my right. Okay. [4:39:10, 4:39:10]: Yeah. [4:39:11, 4:39:31]: Okay, great. Now council consideration approved the purchase of four Ford uh Maverick XL trucks not to exceed one hundred and seventeen thousand two hundred dollars. Funding source, police department operating budget. Chief Tramor, please. Uh yes, Mayor and Council, as you are aware, uh you all have authorized four new positions uh for this fiscal year for [4:39:31, 4:39:41]: For public safety officers, these vehicles will be to equip those public safety officers. It's within our current operating budget. Currently, we have a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in our operating budget. [4:39:41, 4:40:01]: For police vehicles. Uh, this purchase is under that amount,$117,200. As it relates to procurement, this will be an emergency uh procurement exception. Um these vehicles currently have limited availability and we've only been able to source one dealer who has these vehicles on the lot due to the um necessity of having these vehicles immediately. [4:40:01, 4:40:05]: Uh, we're limited in terms of who we're able to procure the vehicles from. [4:40:05, 4:40:17]: And currently Brandon Automotive has four of the vehicles that we're searching for on the lot at a purchase price, I believe it's twenty nine thousand three hundred dollars per vehicle. So at four vehicles a hundred and seventeen thousand two hundred dollars. [4:40:18, 4:40:19]: Yeah, thank you, Chief. [4:40:19, 4:40:21]: Council, I need a motion for approval, please. [4:40:23, 4:40:24]: Or less there are any questions. [4:40:24, 4:40:40]: I have a question. Go right, please. Um the hundred and twenty five thousand is budgeted for n vehicles. Is it for the purchase of vehicles or for the maintenance and purchase of the vehicles? That specific uh budget item is for the purchase of vehicles. Okay. And we approved it for this year. Yes. [4:40:41, 4:40:47]: And what's the difference between the Fort Maverick XL trucks and the trucks that we have now? [4:40:48, 4:40:53]: Uh, they're less expensive. Um, this would be a compact pickup truck. [4:40:54, 4:41:02]: And for the work that the public safety officer would be performing, it's a sufficient vehicle. If we went with a full size vehicle, the cost would be more expensive. Full size pickup truck. [4:41:02, 4:41:03]: Okay. [4:41:03, 4:41:13]: And th and that's to fulfill the four positions that we have but do we have those positions filled already or no. They were just approved this year, so we're in the process of recruiting for those positions now. [4:41:14, 4:41:14]: Okay. [4:41:16, 4:41:18]: Okay. And do we have [4:41:20, 4:41:35]: The amount of officers that we already have accounted for? Are we missing officers? Is what I'm saying? Like a do we have to do that? Um we we have [4:41:36, 4:41:40]: I wanna say four vacancies, um sworn vacancies at the moment. [4:41:41, 4:42:01]: that uh we're currently seeking to fill. We have people in various different stages of the hiring process. Um but as you're aware, people come, people go, and then it takes us a little bit of time to get those positions filled once somebody's left. So um we're actively working towards filling those positions. It's hopeful that we'll have those filled uh insurance [4:42:01, 4:42:01]: Short order. [4:42:04, 4:42:09]: Any other questions for the council for the chief? If not, I need a motion to approve. [4:42:09, 4:42:15]: May uh I I make a motion to approve uh the purchase of the Ford Maverick Excel. [4:42:15, 4:42:20]: Sir. Okay. Is there any okay, all in favor please indicate? [4:42:21, 4:42:23]: Yeah, it's decision. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, Chief. [4:42:24, 4:42:25]: Congratulations to you. [4:42:27, 4:42:27]: That was good. [4:42:29, 4:42:49]: Upcoming meetings and announcements, council meetings will be held in Council City Council Chambers. Meeting dates and location times are subject to change, or contact the city hall offices at 770-389-7900 or visit the website of www.stopbridgega.org. The Citywide Development Authority meetings second Tuesday of each month. [4:42:49, 4:43:09]: month at six PM City Hall Levi meeting room at nine January. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday. Yes, sir. I'm sorry, I hate to interrupt your uh comments, but there's a note that we I I'd like to do something'cause I I don't uh I didn't feel good about earlier when uh the Mayor Pro Tem vote went down. [4:43:09, 4:43:29]: I certainly would like for us to revote that so it could be unanimous and give uh the proper consent. Because I want to going forward, I want it to be uh unanimous. So I'd like an opportunity to revote that so that it is unanimous. Well w w are you sure it's gonna be unanimous though. Yes. [4:43:29, 4:43:31]: You have to amend the agenda. [4:43:31, 4:43:43]: We c we could re vote and then it would be five to zero. I think that's the appropriate thing to do. The appropriate thing to do. It ain't gonna take but two seconds in order to do it, in order for us to re vote it. [4:43:44, 4:43:53]: All right, so and your thought, uh Miss Gannis that you have to re we amend the agenda to take a re vote on this, I would imagine. That's what you're indicating. Uh our attorneys, is that the proper way to do this? [4:43:56, 4:44:10]: Okay. Well then uh if that is the case, I just need uh I guess uh uh d to amend the agenda and to to have a revote on this. And go ahead, Ms. Alzheimer's since you brought up. [4:44:10, 4:44:14]: The mayor pro team position and first vote would need to be rescinded. [4:44:17, 4:44:27]: Can we do this at the next meeting? Let's just go ahead and do it now because I feel bad that I did not I wan we just wanna I want it to be unanimous. I don't wanna go ever have this not be unanimous again. [4:44:28, 4:44:29]: Okay. [4:44:30, 4:44:32]: Okay, proper po proper poke of [4:44:33, 4:44:53]: Proper protocols what to rescind the the res what's the proper protocol attorney? I need your assistance. So it would have to be the recent rescind rescinding vote would have to be from a person who vote voted in the affirmative. So Mr. Berry, you would have to vote. No, actually the the prevailing party, I'm sorry to interrupt you. Uh okay, go ahead. [4:44:53, 4:44:56]: would need to bring up a request to re vote. That's what I'm saying. [4:44:57, 4:45:00]: And then amend the agenda to vote again. [4:45:01, 4:45:15]: All right. So basically you would make the motion to rescind and then we would we would ch we would re vote to rescind and then we would vote again immediately to make you the mayor pro tem five to zero. [4:45:15, 4:45:15]: Mm. [4:45:18, 4:45:23]: What she said. I make the motion to receive and the other details that the attorney has previously. [4:45:24, 4:45:30]: Okay, if you made a motion to rescend, Mr. Berry, is there a second to that motion? Second. Mr. Alzheimer's second that all in favor, please indicate. [4:45:31, 4:45:37]: I got four votes. You okay, five votes. Now it's decision. Now I need to know the motion again to nominate it. [4:45:38, 4:45:50]: I make the motion to no nominate Carl Berry as our uh Carl Berry as our mayor pro tem for twenty twenty four. Is there a second? You second that, Miss Barber, second that okay, all in favor, please indicate. [4:45:51, 4:46:07]: Okay, so you name this decision. Okay. Thank you. Congratulations. Second mayor got another motion to make. Uh uh that's Mr. Bear is gonna have to make that too. Huh? No, you're right. You're right. No, we we we didn't vote. You're right. We never voted. Right. What's that? I wanna make a motion to [4:46:08, 4:46:16]: I'm gonna make a motion to amend the agenda so that we can make the rotation the official policy for the city. [4:46:17, 4:46:18]: I say. [4:46:19, 4:46:25]: All right. Well the motion's been made in a second, so and so uh all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:46:26, 4:46:27]: Okay. [4:46:27, 4:46:32]: Well one second. All okay, I got three votes for. All right. [4:46:33, 4:46:38]: Yes. Yes. We're a min amending agenda, yes. [4:46:38, 4:46:46]: It's not. Okay, so we're meant we're we're we're have a motion to amend the agenda. [4:46:48, 4:46:52]: To add in would mend it say your statement again, please. Make sure I understand it right. [4:46:52, 4:47:00]: The amend the agenda so that we can add the rotation pol as the official policy for this city for the Mayor Pro Tem position. [4:47:01, 4:47:02]: Okay. [4:47:03, 4:47:05]: Okay I second that and we voted. [4:47:06, 4:47:11]: Okay, hold on a second. So motion was made and seconded. All right. Uh all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:47:14, 4:47:16]: Yes, to amend the agenda. Okay. All polls? [4:47:17, 4:47:37]: Okay, so it's four z four uh one opposed. I'm making the motion now to make the rotation, the official policy. Mr. Berry sent an email earlier today with the prescribed um following. It had uh for twenty twenty-four, he will be the mayor pro tem in twenty twenty-five. [4:47:37, 4:47:50]: Ms. Gantt would be the mayor pro tem in 2026. I would be the mayor pro tem in 2027. Councilman Thomas would be the mayor pro tem in 2028. [4:47:50, 4:47:53]: Mayor Pro Councilwoman Barber would be the mayor pro team. [4:47:54, 4:47:54]: I second. [4:47:55, 4:48:12]: Okay, most have been made in a second. Now for discussion for discussion purposes. Now what one second please? I I got I understand what you're gonna do here. So I would imagine that the charter doesn't uh d identify that this right now. So to do that it charter doesn't say apologies. [4:48:12, 4:48:23]: Oh you got you got this copy this right? Um we had a meeting and it was you asked the same question back in twenty twenty one and attorney Williams confirmed that there's no rule that prohibits this action. [4:48:23, 4:48:43]: Okay. And here it is right here if you would like to see it. Well okay. So discussion. Yes, so I'll just what what it is, I wanted to ask our current attorney w you know, Ms. Gandis said there's this happened earlier, but yes, on January eleventh, twenty twenty one at six o'clock PM an item number in the minutes, it actually states it in [4:48:43, 4:48:44]: Yeah. [4:48:45, 4:49:05]: Okay, so I just wanna get some clarification. You pulled it up, but I wanna do the read in or somehow uh make sure that we're legal and proper and even time to attempt to do this in this process. Now uh so discussion. Well, so I just wanted this you'll you'll get to it out so we can do the miracle. [4:49:05, 4:49:25]: So I I wanted to make sure that I don't like people who are manipulative. And that's exactly what you all adopted. So future council [4:49:25, 4:49:27]: They can change it if they want to. [4:49:28, 4:49:29]: Okay. Exactly. [4:49:29, 4:49:30]: All right. [4:49:30, 4:49:36]: Question. Well one stand by standby. Mr. Thomas Guay, please. [4:49:36, 4:49:46]: There's nothing in the c the charter or the code right now that says how the pr mayor it just says that the mayor pro tem is elect or means selected. Sh appointed. Appointed. [4:49:47, 4:49:51]: But you can change that by resolution if you want to make it more specific. [4:49:52, 4:49:59]: And say that it's by rotation, whatever method you wanna choose to do that, you can up you can do that. [4:50:00, 4:50:11]: And express it through the will of counsel however you want that to go down. I'm not in favor. I second. What what hold on a second? And mayor, we're still in the discussion phase, please. Mr. Thomas Quay, please. [4:50:12, 4:50:16]: Well I I I wanted the the the question as far as the the charter. [4:50:19, 4:50:23]: And I would recommend this be discussed in executive session, but but how do you [4:50:25, 4:50:31]: I guess my question is when you go against the charter, when you change the language in the charter. [4:50:31, 4:50:38]: Um is that is that is a resolution or is that an ordinance? You won't be changing the language of the charter. You'll be changing [4:50:39, 4:50:58]: The resolution as it relates to the mayor Pro Tem. But the charter says the council shall appoint. And we still it says nothing about rotation and correct. You're changing you're not changing the appointment, you're changing exactly how it happens by rotation, by alphabetical order, however you wanna do it. [4:50:59, 4:51:05]: I I I just think this need a little bit more discussion. Mayor, may I discuss this real quick? Okay. Mr. Thomas, are you done, sir? [4:51:06, 4:51:13]: I I I guess so'cause it it's it's it's time to Okay. Okay, hold a second. Hold a second. It goes to Miss Barber next. Miss Barber. [4:51:14, 4:51:14]: Mm. [4:51:14, 4:51:18]: So I don't support the rotation. [4:51:18, 4:51:38]: This is not about, you know, us all having a title every year. Absolutely not. There are other factors to consider when it comes to Mayor Pro Tem. Not only that, in two years we're gonna have an election. They're putting names on who's gonna be next in the next. [4:51:38, 4:51:45]: Next year. You cannot do that. It makes absolutely no sense to have the mayor pro tem. [4:51:45, 4:51:46]: Be rotated. [4:51:47, 4:51:51]: Based on names and whoever is elected. Well, instead of names you could do it by district. [4:51:51, 4:51:53]: I'm sorry, instead of name. [4:51:53, 4:51:56]: You could do it by district if you're you want to avoid [4:51:56, 4:52:07]: Well I I support um what Councilwoman Gantt said back in twenty twenty one when she was not in support of rotating the Mayor Pro Tem. [4:52:08, 4:52:15]: It wasn't necessary. It's still not necessary. It's not necessary for us to rotate the Mare Pro Tem. [4:52:15, 4:52:16]: It's not. [4:52:17, 4:52:23]: The only reason why we did it that particular time in twenty twenty one is because at that time. [4:52:24, 4:52:26]: Councilman Alexander had been on council. [4:52:26, 4:52:30]: for six years and he had not been Mayor Pro Tem. [4:52:32, 4:52:34]: But he's had his turn now. [4:52:35, 4:52:39]: This seems very, very um elementary. [4:52:40, 4:52:50]: I won't support rotating this. It's not necessary. Um and Mayor Ford, once we're done with this discussion, I have about um [4:52:51, 4:53:01]: I have four motions that I'm going to amend the agenda. We'll move forward with the vote. I'm calling for the vote, Mayor. Okay, hold hold a second. Don't talk I'm not done talking. Don't talk over me. [4:53:02, 4:53:05]: We're not gonna start off the year that way. [4:53:05, 4:53:08]: I've been respectful. I expect you to do the same. [4:53:09, 4:53:11]: So once we're done with this. [4:53:11, 4:53:14]: My other motions that I sent to the council [4:53:14, 4:53:22]: And I said I wanted to amend the agenda. Councilwoman Gantt said, Oh, we all decided that we weren't going to amend the agenda. [4:53:22, 4:53:28]: But this last minute effort to wanna pass a vote to rotate a mayor pro tem. [4:53:30, 4:53:45]: Yeah. I don't like those kinds of politrics. Are we gonna do it? Start off right. Not this slick stuff. Call for the vote. Stand by. Okay. So we can go home what we go. [4:53:45, 4:54:00]: But we're gonna scan USM anyway. Hold up folks. Hold up. Mayor, it it was it kinda embarrassing earlier today that we had to go through this. I don't recall I'm not necessarily certain if I actually stated [4:54:01, 4:54:21]: that I was against the rotation. But what e either way, I'm I'm looking here in the minutes of the meeting on on January 11th, 2021, Mayor, you asked that same question on agenda item, business item number four. And it says appointment of Mayor Pro Tem and create a policy for rotation. [4:54:21, 4:54:41]: Councilman Alexander noted each member of the council had served in the capacity of mayor pro tem with the mayor serving twice, and the exception being Councilwoman Barber and himself, and motioned to appoint Councilman Elton Alexander to serve as mayor pro tem for the year of 2015. [4:54:41, 4:54:49]: 2021, and to create a policy to re rotate the position, allowing all members to serve. [4:54:49, 4:55:09]: Mayor Ford asked for a legal opinion if a member could self-appoint, if a member could and attorney Williams confirmed there is no rule that prohibits this action. We then began to start rotating appointments. Mayor, that's why you came to me and said it's your turn next year to [4:55:09, 4:55:29]: To be Mayor Pro Tem, I believe. And we did the same thing with Councilwoman Barber. This is not something new. When I made the argument about, wait a minute, last year we said, wait a minute, Councilwoman Barber, no offense, nothing against her at that point in time, nothing against her, but she had given up her. [4:55:29, 4:55:49]: her spot by saying she didn't want want it that it was gonna go that she gave it to councilman thomas. And so it's on record. I mean it's on video. We can watch it. There are minutes. There's tape. Yeah where you oppose it has nothing and mayor it's my I have the floor councilwoman barber. [4:55:49, 4:56:09]: Councilwoman Barber, I have the floor. Councilwoman Barber, I have the floor. Now see I what what I don't what I do have an issue with is is that it is a c it's been a constant target. Yeah, we're we're gonna go ahead and vote. [4:56:09, 4:56:11]: It's been a constant target lately. [4:56:11, 4:56:20]: on certain things and it's not fair and I I ask that we stop it now. It's not this is not the way we should govern. [4:56:20, 4:56:40]: We should govern and do things fair and right. And it's okay for what you read. I'm ready to move forward with the vote. I can't get it out. But what I wanna say is Mayor Ford games. Oh all right, folks. Mayor Mayor Ford, can I correct the record before you vote though? [4:56:40, 4:56:41]: What's that? [4:56:42, 4:56:49]: I misspoke when I said resolution, it has to be by ordinance. Council can't be bound to anything past a year. [4:56:49, 4:57:09]: with a resolution. So if your position as mayor pro tem is more than a year, you can't it's one year. It's typically on typically only a year. But any it has to be an ordinance if it's gonna instead of resolution. I just wanted to correct myself on the record. Thank you. And mayor, let me say this in regards to rotations [4:57:09, 4:57:10]: Yeah. [4:57:11, 4:57:20]: Other cities do this. This is not something that's abnormal. This is something that happens all the time. We hear it at GMX [4:57:21, 4:57:21]: Good. [4:57:22, 4:57:42]: Mayor we hear it through GMA. I was l listen folks, this it's it's kinda getting out of hand here. Okay. I was originally I was originally reading the announces and upcoming events. That's what I was doing. All right. And this all came up. Just respect. Now we're ready. No, don't do that. [4:57:42, 4:57:50]: Don't do what's going on. No say let's call for the vote. We're ready to vote. We're ready to vote. Stand by. [4:57:51, 4:58:01]: You done spoke three times. Let's let come on. Mr. Thomas, do you have something to say so? May Mayor Ford, as a as this counselor know, I put out an email. [4:58:02, 4:58:06]: requesting a seeking support. What I was told [4:58:07, 4:58:10]: Да, вивой ту і ту ретрит. [4:58:11, 4:58:14]: To discuss this, but now No it didn't. [4:58:15, 4:58:22]: Okay. It said this should be discussed at the retreat or executive session. [4:58:23, 4:58:26]: And now you wanna everybody wanna change it now. [4:58:26, 4:58:31]: That's what we say. And then the point that that the charter says [4:58:31, 4:58:34]: That council shall appoint [4:58:35, 4:58:37]: If it's in rotation. [4:58:38, 4:58:58]: Then there's no need to appoint because it automatically goes to the next person. So you are violating the charter. No, we're not. The charter says a point. We're not. So if you're gonna create anything that says rotation, then you're in violation of the charter. No, we're not. We still have to vote at a point. No, if you're gonna [4:58:58, 4:59:06]: It's no point of vote, it's no point of nothing. It just automatically just rolls over. But it's against the charter. [4:59:07, 4:59:27]: But I I'm I'm just requesting if if if Mr. Barr would just rescind and then we can just close this out. No, we need to go ahead and call for the vote. It's time to vote. We don't had enough discussion. Well here's the thing. You you, Mr. Iron Sanders, said you wanted to be an announced decision. Did you not? Yes. Well, Mayor, are you sure that's gonna happen? The rotation. [4:59:27, 4:59:47]: Don't have to be uh unanimous. Mayor, see that's the trick right there. No, there's no trick. Mayor, let me ask you this, Mayor. What Mayor Ford, if I may, can we please move on? May I have the floor, Mayor? So bear, if you know, I was originally, like I said, reading announcements. I understand, but may I have the floor because you've and you entertained the motion. [4:59:47, 4:59:51]: We got a motion and a second. No, we do. There's a motion and a second. Ma'am for the vote. [4:59:52, 4:59:52]: No. [4:59:53, 4:59:56]: It was stated unanimously. May I have the floor. [4:59:57, 5:00:07]: This is crazy. Mayor Ford, I need to make a series of motions to um. We're not done with the motion that we're dealing with. Call for the vote so we can vote on this one and then move on. [5:00:07, 5:00:17]: It's wrong and I'm trying to figure out what the what is the pro You said you had a consensus not to amend the agenda. That's what you said. But you did differently than what you said. [5:00:18, 5:00:27]: We're gonna amend the agenda next you already did. So I wanna add we've amended the agenda of a couple of times tonight, but Mayor, we have a we have a first and a second. [5:00:28, 5:00:48]: And mister My hand is raised, Mayor Ford, and I'm waiting to be acknowledged. I just want to reconfirm my motion to approve the rotation described by Mr. Berry in the email earlier today. And again, he's Mayor Pro Tem this year. Councilwoman Gance, Mayor Pro Tem the following year after. [5:00:48, 5:01:00]: After that, I'm Mayor Pro Tem, then it goes back to Councilman Thomas, then it goes to Councilwoman Barber in rotation. Mr. Berry sent that himself, sir. Neither one of us. [5:01:01, 5:01:21]: Neither one of us may be here tomorrow. Hold on, listen up, folks. Let alone next year. Listen, listen up. Listen up. I don't agree with a rotation schedule of the mayor pro team. Listen up. We we first of all, if we go through with this vote, and yes, there's a violent motion on the floor and needs to be voted. I got that. So if we vote on this and it passes, the thing about it is if it breaks. [5:01:21, 5:01:41]: Breaks the charter, we can't do it. No, she just explained that it breaks the charter. We understand that. I understand what she said that but I'm what I understand what she said. I heard I heard what she said. Mayor all you do. I heard all you think. I'm sorry, Mr. Let her repeat that. May Mayor repeat that city attorney. And listen, Mayor. [5:01:41, 5:01:49]: For it. I want to bring my series of motions for us to vote on tonight. You can do that. City Attorney, what did you just say? [5:01:55, 5:01:59]: We can draft whatever you would like by ordinance. Thank you. [5:02:00, 5:02:11]: If you just all right, the motion has been put on the floor to start a rot rotation with Mayor Pro Tem, outlined as stated several times, made by Ms. Alexander, second by Miss Cannon. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:02:13, 5:02:33]: You're voting yes. Okay, so the motion passed. Well uh it you you all oppose. For the record, I oppose. Okay, Mr. and you oppose as well. So motion passed three, two. All right. Thank you. But Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. It's it was stated. I understand that it was going to be unanimous. Right. For the record. It was not. Right. [5:02:33, 5:02:46]: I wanted to vote for him to be mo unanimous if it was unanimous for the appointment tonight. It was unanimous for the appointment tonight. Therefore, there's a place I'd like to make a motion to amend the agenda, please. [5:02:46, 5:02:53]: Okay. I'd like to make a motion to amend the agenda to add an item. The first item [5:02:55, 5:03:01]: Go ahead. You ready? Um, to direct the HR manager to forward the current and previous [5:03:01, 5:03:04]: Job descriptions of the city clerk. [5:03:04, 5:03:07]: And the executive assistant to Mayor and Council. [5:03:07, 5:03:09]: directly to the governing body. [5:03:11, 5:03:12]: Okay, there's a second emotion. [5:03:14, 5:03:19]: Okay, all in favor of commotion made has been second by Mr uh Thomas. All in favor, please indicate. [5:03:21, 5:03:28]: Uh all pose. What's the question? Oh c what's the qu to add some more stuff to the agenda. No, so we can go home. [5:03:28, 5:03:29]: No. [5:03:30, 5:03:50]: The question is to shoot the motion deals with again HR to give uh job descriptions uh to the council to we so we can go thro look through the job descriptions. Make some changes. Wasn't it stated that that was already under process too? It it was it was already under process, not complete at this point, but yes, right, it was. [5:03:50, 5:03:55]: It is. So can we get clarification if it's already done that we don't need to vote? It's not complete at this point. [5:03:56, 5:03:57]: City Manager. [5:03:57, 5:04:02]: Is the motion to amend the to put it on the agenda to discuss? Right, right. It is. [5:04:02, 5:04:15]: I I just wanna d the city manager has said early in his report, you've already already directed HR to start the add this item to the agenda. The treasurer position that's already started, right? [5:04:17, 5:04:18]: Yes, sir. [5:04:18, 5:04:35]: You've already directed HR to do that. Yes, sir. This already begun and when you finish, you gonna bring that person to us, right? This is an item that I am asking to the to amend the agenda. I'll give my directive to Mr Gardner and he can direct his staff. [5:04:35, 5:04:42]: as you so choose. But right now just want to amend the agenda to add that particular item to the agenda. [5:04:43, 5:04:49]: So I'm so motion was made. It's seconded by Mr. Thomas. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:04:50, 5:04:51]: Opposed. [5:04:52, 5:04:53]: You opposing, sir? [5:04:54, 5:05:10]: You're you're you're you're abstaining. So so it's it's a tie. So right now we're not c I'll vote that uh it n doesn't go on the agenda. My next item to add to amend the agenda, my motion is to direct um [5:05:10, 5:05:19]: Um Mr. Gardner to post a position of the city attorney and forward the resumes as they are received. [5:05:20, 5:05:21]: Is there a second in a motion? [5:05:22, 5:05:23]: Is there a second to the motion? [5:05:24, 5:05:25]: What's the question, sir? [5:05:28, 5:05:30]: Yes sir. [5:05:35, 5:05:36]: I like to [5:05:37, 5:05:38]: Put. [5:05:38, 5:05:40]: Us on notice. [5:05:41, 5:05:42]: I feel [5:05:43, 5:05:48]: Then we'll sit here and violated the charter. We did and I and I cannot go forward. [5:05:49, 5:05:53]: with anything else because this is a violation. [5:05:53, 5:05:57]: And let me just say this and then w once that I I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna walk out. [5:05:58, 5:06:00]: The charter says [5:06:01, 5:06:04]: The mayor's pro tem shall be appointed by the council. [5:06:04, 5:06:04]: Mm-hmm. [5:06:05, 5:06:09]: If you put anything in a rotation, that eliminates [5:06:10, 5:06:14]: Rotation is it's automatic. So we're in violation. [5:06:16, 5:06:20]: of a charter and I can't sit here and violate the charter. [5:06:21, 5:06:23]: It's a violation. Okay. [5:06:24, 5:06:36]: Okay, so my next item since I can't get a second, this uh third one, um motion to direct staff to post an RFP soliciting proposals for services for an independent [5:06:37, 5:06:38]: Auditing firm. [5:06:39, 5:06:44]: Is there a second to the motion to add this to the agenda? Is there a second to the motion to add this to the agenda? [5:06:45, 5:06:47]: There's no second. What's your next motion? [5:06:47, 5:06:52]: Thank you, sir. My last um motion to amend the agenda. [5:06:52, 5:06:55]: To uh reactivate the finance committee. [5:06:55, 5:06:58]: And appoint a council liaison. [5:06:58, 5:07:00]: I believe Councilwoman Gantt served on the [5:07:01, 5:07:05]: finance committee until it was deactivated. I just wanted to amend the agenda. [5:07:06, 5:07:09]: Is there a s second to amend the agenda to have this discussion? [5:07:09, 5:07:17]: Is there a second to amend the agenda to have this discussion? So there's no second amendment filled. Thank you, sir. All right. [5:07:17, 5:07:37]: Back to what I was doing originally. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month. Welcome center Main Street offices located 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, 9 a.m. January 12th. Downtown Development Authority meeting third Tuesday Tuesday of each month. Welcome center 130 Arnold King Senior Heritage Trail January 16th. [5:07:37, 5:07:57]: Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting 6 30 p.m. third Tuesday of each month. Levi Meeting Room City Hall January 16th. Planning Commission meeting 630, City Hall Council Chambers, January 24th. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, January 30th. Stockbridge Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting first Thursday. [5:07:57, 5:08:17]: Of each month, 6 p.m. at Stockbridge, Police and Community Room, 4545, North Henry Boulevard, February 1st. City Council meeting second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers, February 12th. 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Please contact Ros and Ross to schedule an appointment at 678-833-3348 or uh call, excuse me, or email R Ros at [5:09:17, 5:09:19]: [18561.1, 18581.1]: So in Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative centered around education highlights and causing effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow. Councilman Thomas is honoring veterans and continues to salute all year long. Please send your pictures to our veterans and their names, rank, and branch, years of service to R. Raws at Stockbridgega.org. [5:09:41, 5:10:01]: My comments, happy new year to you. Make sure that you take your COVID-19 updated booster shot, take your flu shot, and RSV is uh respiratory, I guess, conditions are happening in Georgia. And uh please enjoy the Martin Luther King holiday weekend. Do be of a service, show your respect and support. [5:10:01, 5:10:21]: support of the one Luther King Jr., especially since you live in the Stockbridge area. And since this is the ancestral home of the King family. God bless you all. And uh as far as I understand there is no executive session at this time. So I need a motion to end our meeting. Motion to adjourn. Is there a second? All for you please indicate [5:10:20, 5:10:24]: God bless you all. [5:10:30, 5:10:32]: Thank you. Thank you. [5:10:32, 5:10:37]: Mayor, we're the governing body. We change the charter. We vote for the charter.